The Weekly Planet - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

A mere year after the first entry in The Lord of the Rings Trilogy came The Two Towers, not simply a rehash of what came before but a vastly different continuation of the story. With the fellowship split up, Frodo and Sam making for Mordor with the one ring, Merry and Pippin hanging out with a talking tree and Aragon, Legolas and Gimli helping defend Rohan at Helms Deep things ramp up in a big way. Also Gandalf is back and he's got a new style and powers and stuff. Thanks for watching our Caravan of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit BetterHelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp.com. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of Garbage where we're going through the Lord of the Rings trilogy regular edition. Regular edition, no extended editions for us. Thank you very much. We only have so much life left to live. It's true. Also we're saving it for a future video where we do all the extended ones. We do this again. Yay. We do it again, Mason. Yay. You say yay because good movie? Yep, it is good. Yeah? Yeah? So far? Yeah? So far? Wait did you stop watching it? Because you have to finish the movie to talk about the movie. Alright hang on.

Let's pause briefly. Good all the way through. So you you stopped the last 10 seconds did you? You just finished it then? Yeah. Great. Yep. Good stuff. Ah please leave a like because we always finish the movies before we talk about them right? That's right? It's a low bar to clear but we did it so give us a like. Absolutely. So this has an incredible opening, right? It's based on a painting by John Howe who of course came on board for this production. So his painting is just Gandalf like riding the Balrog down but they obviously expand on all of that. Riding on down like he's Tony Hawk and the Balrogs are sweet. Skateboard. He's a brand of skateboard.

It's on screen. We'll put it on screen for you. Tony Hawk brand skateboards. There you go. Yeah. So New Line apparently, they originally wanted Cate Blanchett to do a recap. To do the Balrog.

Yeah, man. Get in there. Wow. Now they wanted her to do a recap of what happened in the previous movie You know how they open the last one and Peter Jackson was like, no people probably get it, you know Like I don't know why you would go into this not watching the first one But yeah, you know it still works

People have probably seen it on DVD because DVDs are still currently a thing. They're real for now. That's right What did he know? What did he know? What did he know? So apparently Gandalf and the Balrog fall for approximately 71 seconds given the terminal velocity is around 53 For now. That's right. What did he know? What did he know? Well, did he know? So apparently Gandalf and the Balrog fall for approximately 71 seconds. Given the terminal velocity is around 53 miles per second, that means that they fell for 3763 meters. He's doing all this off the top of his head, folks.

Or about two and a third miles. It's a long time to be attached to a screaming monster that's on fire falling to your doom. Or an old man in weird robes and he probably smells odd. They were both having a bad time. Yeah. Yeah. God damn. But hell of a fall, hell of a scene.

Yeah. And when Gandalf recaps it later, you know, his battle with the Balrog, he's probably only lying a little bit. You think he didn't really do all of that? I don't know. I reckon probably they left as friends. There's a hearty handshake and they're like, this was actually was a misunderstanding. I understand we were in your house, Mr. Balrog.

Sure. So you're saying Gandalf went to like a hair salon and not to heaven. Correct, yes. And was sent back. That's right, yeah. Great, that's cool stuff. He had to go to the salon twice

because once he came out and the hair was purple. You know that happens sometimes? Oh, then he had to go down to the salon and get it fixed. Yeah, that has happened to me. Yeah, absolutely he came out and the hair was purple. You know that happens sometimes? Oh then he had to go to another salon and he had to fix. Yeah that has happened to me. Yeah absolutely. So he's the white wizard now. He gets a promotion for being a rad dude. He gets to heaven and they're like good job you're one of the few wizards who actually did some good shit in this world. Some turn evil, some just dick around or disappear. Bombadil. Yeah Bombadil. That's right. The wizard with bird shit down his face from the Hobbit. This is basically Gandalf with all the safeties taken off and given more direction and purpose.

That being said, he's not in it very much, is he? No, but I mean, his scene's very impactful. I'll ask you first, who's your favorite team in this? Because they split them up into three teams. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good question. And mine is 100% Gandalf, Legolas, Aragorn, Gimli. That's that scene where Gandalf is like crossing the throne room to remove the spell of the king. Of the captain of the Titanic.

Exactly. And all the guards are coming in, but all his bros, they don't have their swords or their axes or their bows anymore but they're just laying into these guys and Gandalf's just walking through like he's walking in between the raindrops The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town BOOOM BOOOM and now, oh hell of a scene God it feels like it doesn't it Anyway, but the other two teams are your favourites, yeah

No, no, that's the best team Yeah, it's four guys who know what they're doing. Absolutely. So this was the hardest movie to make for reasons that you're talking about, because, well, first of all, it's the book is like weirdly structured. By that, you mean boring. No, Mason. Oh, because I meant boring.

Oh, OK. So half of the book. Just kidding. I've never gotten as far as the two towns. But boring. So it's structured. So there's a focus on Aragon, Gimli, Legolas and Gandalf. And then during the novel, they do all of that, then they cut back to Sam and Frodo. So they don't really intercut. Also, there's like a brand new style of CGI character in this. A lot of this was shot at night in the rain.

It's also the middle part of a narrative. So like, there's not really a proper beginning or end. But also you can just kind of launch into it. Like you just assume that people know who the characters are. But there's a bunch of stuff that they change for this though. Like Aragon never goes missing. Treebeard immediately goes to war in the book.

The two towers. Oh you guys, I'm going to war. Treebeard also, he's like, one of the hobbits is like, the tree is talking and this guy's like, a of the hobbits is like, oh, the tree is talking and this guy's like, a tree, how dare you? That's vegetation racist. I'm not a tree. What's your name? Treebeard. My friends call me tree. But you're not my friend yet. Yeah, fair point. Now let's go to war. Absolutely. The two towers might mean a different thing in the book, though Tolkien's like mentioned

it a couple of times. But they definitively named them like in this movie. Do you think he meant, you know, those two towers? Oh, do you think he meant that? I don't know, man. Do you think he meant that? I don't think anything. I've never had a thought. You know that. Yeah, that's true. I'm not going to start with that one either.

Well, then I guess that mystery will remain unsolved. Absolutely. Also, Shelob, the giant spider who appears in the third movie actually takes place in the second book. But structurally, timeline wise, that does happen when it happens in the movie, if that makes sense. They kind of juggle that around a bit. So instead of fighting a giant spider, which is cool, they hang out with David Wenham, which is cool. Still pretty cool. That guy was in the movie Proof but not the one you're thinking of, the other one. The other one? One where Hugo Waving's Blind. Oh I remember that one. He was also in the TV show Sea Change for a bit.

He sure was. Yeah those incredible abs do you remember? Those glistening, those bronzed abs. You're talking about 300? No I'm talking about Sea change. Diver Dan. Diving Daniel as we call him. That's right. Yeah so Faramir in the book also he's not super interesting as a character. You know being Baramir's brother they obviously wrote in that he would be tempted by the ring. Right. But in the book he's quoted as saying I would not pick this thing up if it lay by the wayside which kind of robs it of its power to be like I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Get rid of it. Get out of my face. It's not very interesting. But there is love in this Mason.

There's a love triangle of sorts. Arwen, horse girl. Yep. Aragon. Aragon, yeah. Miranda Otto, who's a great inclusion to this. She actually ends up with Faramir. So, you know, that's pretty good.

A real Ron Weasley Hermione Granger situation just some leftovers Yeah, we're not overly concerned. Just put them together. I don't care. How you feeling about horse people though? I'm not a horse person or horses like a dog that I can't read and that can kill me with a single kick I don't like that. How are you on that though? How are you with horses? I mean the only thing I like about horses is they could kill me with a single kick. So otherwise I'm indifferent I guess okay, I wrote a horse a couple of times as a kid. Oh wow. I didn't know you're a fancy little lad francing around.

Of course she knew I was a fancy little lad. I'm wearing an ascot right now. But when you introduce Rohan, you get amazing cast members. As mentioned, Miranda Otto, Karl Urban, Brad Durif, Bernard Hill, Bernard Hill, Bernard Hill, RIP by the way. Fucking incredible performance in this. Just a man too old to be having to deal with this.

And he looks so good, you know, when he like comes out of the spell and the way they like shift from really old to just old. He looks so fresh faced. That probably went to that same salon that Gandalf went to. He probably did. That moment where he discovers his son has passed and he has that line about,

"'No parents should have to bury their child.'" Just fucking heartbreaking. Just in, I think that might be like my favorite scene in this, and performance in this entire trilogy. Even more than Andy Serkis? Well, we'll get to Andy Serkis. Anyway, the best. Anyway, let's talk about Gollum So originally this was just a voice acting role because he's briefly in the first one, but you don't really see him

He's in shadow. Well, he looks different because they redesigned him for this to look like Andy circus. More like Andy circus No, to look exactly like Andy circus. So what they do they put him in like a grey onesie They'd film the scenes with him and then film them without. And then they realized that didn't play as well if he wasn't in them. So they digitally erased him. And then they put in the digital Golem. But of course it's harder than that

because you have to mocap him separately and then put him in. And because mocap technology wasn't quite there yet often you'd have to key frame the animation. All the faces mostly. I'm understanding all of this. Yeah, you know. All the rotoscope. Yeah'm understanding all of this. Yeah, you know. All the rotoscope.

Yeah, probably. A lot of it is rotoscoped. Yeah, it's basically rotoscoped. A lot of the faces also key framed animation, which means, you know, cause now you do the dots, right? Technology's come a long way. They got one of the painters who normally, you know,

works on real stuff to learn to paint digitally. So he's got that kind of translucent look to him cause there to learn to paint digitally. So he's got that kind of translucent look to him because there's layers to his skin. You can see like the light kind of going through it. And like the speckles. He's like one of those fish from deep underwater. Yeah, exactly.

He's got Peter Jackson's feet. Yep, they put them in. Well, you're giving those away for free, Peter Jackson. I guess he's got enough money now. He's got enough money, yeah. Andy Serkis lost his voice multiple times. So he had this Gollum juiciest to drink, which is a mixture of honey, lemon and ginger, but that gave him a stomach ache. And also when he would act this out, everybody else is in beautiful costumes, like relevant to the Tolkien kind of universe. He's in the onesie. He's in the onesie. So people are kind of like,

is this anything or going to work? Because again, this was in an era. I mean, there was Jar Jar Binks, which was good, but people hated that character. But this is a pre-Marvel era where you couldn't trust that if you were looking at a green screen thing on a set, that it would end up looking any good.

Oh yeah, absolutely. You'd have no idea. Absolutely. I think also- And now we're in a post MCU world or a present-day MCU world where you probably don't know if it's gonna look any good. Yeah, but it's probably gonna be an okay movie Yeah, do you think yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah That nanotech helmet that just sort of dissolves. It looks good. Why are they doing it? Because it's easy. Yeah, it's easy

Yeah, anyone could do that. Keyframes rotoscoped. Yeah. Andy Serkis. That's right. Claw. He was claw. He was claw. I think also there are moments in this where you can see it's not perfect because it is like 20 plus years old, but it just doesn't matter at all. It's just seamless in the performance.

The moment where he goes down the river. Who? Gollum, where he's like splashing after that fish. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So good. And this was also the catalyst that made James Cameron go, I'm only gonna make Avatar films. Oh, okay, we're there.

I'm just gonna do this, I guess. So yeah, good stuff. Anyway, trees. Tolkien loved trees. Did you know that? I did. He loved trees. I didn't know it, but in retrospect,

that makes a lot of sense. He loved preservation of nature. A lot of these movies also focus around like war and the mechanization of Because he was a world war one veteran so like that's reflected in a lot of the storytelling in this Fangorn forest that is fake. That's a fake forest. Oh, that was probably probably made out of all the styrofoam and stuff Yeah, man. Well, the great great work good work inspiring that Tolkien and you know How all the actors had to get to New Zealand on jet planes? Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that.

That's great for the environment. Isn't it Tolkien? It's bad. Well done. It's actually bad for the environment. Well done, Jarrrrr, Tolkien. Well done. I'm reading the Lord of the Rings right now on my iPhone. And when it gets out of date,

I'm gonna chuck it directly in the bin. Oh my God. In two weeks. Didn't think about that, did you, Tolkien? He didn't think about that. No. Yeah. So you probably know this but he was really good friends with CS Lewis. Oh yeah. They had very different philosophical beliefs. For one that CS Lewis was like believed in God. And fairies? And fairies and other stuff and talking lions. When they were probably just frogs or something. Yeah, they were probably just frogs and Tolkien very much wasn't. Apparently Treebeard himself is based off C.S. Lewis, like the voice of, voiced by John Rhys Davies, by the way, pulling dual roles in this one.

Two paychecks? Two paychecks, you'd hope. He got two copies of Ben Affleck's paycheck. DVD, it was the time, it was the year of- It was the time, yeah, yeah, he could sell those for a packet now. Oh my goodness, yeah. So Treebeard also, he's a puppet,

so they got Marion Pippen up in there, but then they removed the face and digitally kind of squiggled around with it. You know frames, etc I'm sure sure sure I do love that bit where they the last march of the ends where they attacked Saramon's tower and there's a moment when it floods and you just see one tree not a tree one ends racist vegetation racist One and runs him with his head on fire But don't you head in the water just a really nice detail, but love it building stuff. Oh, yeah, you're good with your hands No, all right. Oh, you're a fancy lad. I forgot exactly right you're wearing knickerbockers right now

Yes, and silken gloves so I can hold the reins of my show pony later So a lot of stuff going on here. They built Etterus, you know, that that hall of horses or whatever. They built that on top of a real mountain. I would have called it horse hall, but all right. I agree. Took eight months to build and it was an eight day shoot. Windy as shit just whipping around.

But they did it. They would not do that now. Helms Deep was built in an old quarry and then they did a four month night shoot in there. They also built a giant, I think it's a third the size of Helms Deep replica which you see in the background of shots, you know like the ramp at the back. That's real. But it's just using forced perspective to make it look like a real one.

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That's right And they built like a 20 meter across like scale model where they blew up the wall and that's so that's a real explosion happening And it looks phenomenal. I love all of that Mason Yeah and just that idea that that whole sequence is like reflective again of like Tolkien's experience because a lot of like I said a lot of things in this based on his own experience in World War one like the dead marshes is probably him like fighting in the trenches and yeah those spooky corpses under the water bar yeah chilling like seeing children like

they were just chilling they were just chilling yeah they were cool bros underwater yeah like children like gearing up for war Aragon does a little pep talk He's like this is a good sword. I don't think it is I Think it's that good, but that's what you say. It's what you say to the kids who are gonna die Yeah, that's all right. This swords. All right. Yeah, if you die, it's your fault. That's right Exactly, and you've let down your dad sword. I don't know where he is. He's probably taking a nap Yeah in one of his investment properties I don't know where he is. He's probably taking a nap.

Yeah, in one of his investment properties. The fighting in this, it was choreographed by Bob Anderson. Who's Bob Anderson? He was a world-renowned fight choreographer. He was a stunt man. He taught fencing. He taught Errol Flynn how to sword fight. Whoa.

And he also did Darth Vader's fighting sequence in A New Hope. All right, okay. Which is, by today's standards, it's a little clunky, but that's pretty cool, right? Don't you think? Yep. That's awesome. So he also said that it was Viggo Mortensen, Mortensen? Viggo Mortensen.

He was like the best sword fighter he's ever seen. Ever seen. So that's pretty cool. Ever seen, yeah. And he knew Errol Flynn, a notoriously bad guy. But he is Australian that's true it's one of ours he's our Ezzer he really is also Helm's Deep you probably realize this but it was just a miserable experience again fine four

months in the dark everybody's kitted out in armor but the Uruk-hai had it the worst because they've got the armor on top of wet prosthetics and then they try and dry them out during the day and not even really get there and then you it's like putting on a wet wetsuit. Yeah yeah and I mean like you know best case scenario you dry it out over a fire and it shrinks and the next day you put it back on and it's even tighter than it was. Yeah absolutely it's squashing my you know? Yeah. Also, Arwen was going to be there. Liv Tyler filmed a bunch of this. She also trained for it because they were like, how are we going to bring these two

together? Like, this is a love story, but they don't meet in this movie and it's not in the books. So that leaked online that she was going to be there and fans flipped out. In a good way? No. Oh no. So part of the reason that they took it out a big part is because of the reaction. So they ended up doing it in like, there's a flashback where he talks to Hugo weaving

and they have a dream sequence. Yes. So they ended up like cutting it that way, which I think still totally works, but they couldn't cut out the elves turning up, which doesn't happen in the book. But you know, whatever an elf can show up. Yeah. and they're mystical and whatever. It's fine. Mystical and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know about massive? You know about this? No, I'll tell you about it. All right. I'll tell you about it. What do you mean massive? Do you know how things are massive? Yes. It's not like that. So basically, this is a simulation which they designed for this movie, where you get crowd sequences and armies fighting together and each of them has a very basic AI brain, very simple and then you just let them go and they kind of do their own thing. They

basically have a few like programmed reactions and whatever and then they do that. Surprise, attack, yeah, dab, assorted Fortnite dances. Exactly. So a lot of that Helm's Deep stuff, not all of it, but the stuff that's way back is massive. And you wouldn't really know that. You couldn't do it for real, obviously, but the way they simulated it, it's really seamless. And often they'll have the army, the CGI army, march past the camera. And I guess also because of the way they light it, the way they put it together. It's just that whole sequence. That's what people remember from this movie, right? Like that like that battle and then Gandalf comes over the hill and he goes I got a horse and some son

They do remember that yes I love all the creatures in this as well the fell beast, you know, the the writers lost their horses in the river So like we're doing big snake dragons. Yes, that's good stuff man. Love all of that the wags The dog rat. Yep. I hear creatures Yes, even the way like they had to design those because it doesn't run like a horse It's kind of like front heavy like a hyena, but it's got a like a weird spine So you got to kind of sit him a certain way. It's all it's all very good stuff Mason I don't mind telling you that thank you. Yeah, I appreciate being told. Yeah, that's good

Um, oh Mason. Yes, is this true? I don't know what's true. It's thoughts and prizes. Oh I guess it's true. It's true. I mean a part of it. It's true Yeah, you say some thoughts and then you claim you're gonna provide some prizes. There's prizes sometimes sometimes. What are the prizes? This week, let's find out. Oh, I'm just looking here. It actually says I have no additional thoughts this week, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there are no prizes because that's on me because I have to bring the thoughts. And if I don't bring the thoughts,

that doesn't mean everybody else should suffer and not get prizes just because I forgot. So are there any prizes? Well, it also says here, but for this week, that also means that there are no prizes. Who's writing this? Who is writing this? Who should we talk to?

I think you should talk to a psychiatrist. Well, I do, but like- A good one. Yeah, a good one. That helps, yeah. Okay, all right. I'll look into it. You know?

Do people mind if I just go away and like, you know, break this down and maybe come back next week with some more thoughts and prizes? And a note from your psychiatrist. Yeah. No, I'm sure they'd appreciate that. Yeah. Okay, good stuff.

I love that. Anyways, you know what's time for also? Is it time for some sort of trivia? Yeah, it's the two trivias. Whoa. But there's one, two, three, four, five, six trivias this week. Whoa, so that's three groups of two trivias.

It would be. You could look at it that way. He kicked that helmet. You want to do this one? Yeah. You go Mortenson, he kicked that helmet. He was mad. And then he's like, ah,

cause he broke his toe already. He broke his toe doing it, man. Yeah. So he, but he was in the moment. Now like great acting and he's like, no, I broke my toe when I did that. Or a couple of toes kicking that helmet. God damn that is good acting. Yeah, it was good acting.

Now let's act like we're gonna bring the medic in. Here he comes, here he comes. He's gonna put a splint on your toe. All right, let's wrap everybody. See you later. Well done everyone. He also chipped a tooth in this. He snapped his tooth like through the middle.

When he tried to bite that helmet. Yeah, that happened too. And then he was like, just superglue it back in and we'll keep going. And they were like, no, let's go to a dentist. so they took him to a dentist and fixed it and brought him back also Orlando Bloom cracked a rib There's a running joke in the if you watch all the behind-the-scenes stuff, which I do it only takes you 127 hours like the movie RIP James Franco will never nobody was really like a dog But um, yeah that like he kept complaining about it. Everyone's like, oh you cracked your rib. Did you? Yeah, it's still sore

Is it? Oh, okay. Yeah, it's been a while, but I'm sorry you cracked a rib Wow, you seem to have been complaining for the exact amount of time it takes to heal a cracked rib, but alright Brett Beatty who's also Gimli's stunt double and the stand-in size appropriate. He dislocated his knee So there's a sequence at the start where Aragon and Legolas and Gimli running and they're all in real life fucked up and they just Sprint just for miles at a time. They got a helicopter following them at one point with that with Peter Jackson, you know with a with a with a loud haler being like faster, act like I haven't injured you.

Too slow for an elf. On the wall of Helms Deep during battle, did you see the one-eyed dude who turns to camera and he's got the empty socket? Yeah. So that's not CGI. This extra showed up and he had an eye patch and Peter Jackson's like, what's the deal with this?

Have you come already prepared in costume? Yeah. We encourage that. Yeah, he was like, what's under there? And he's like, I don't have an eye. And they're like, we're putting it in. Nice. Not the eye, we're not putting the eye in.

We don't know where it is. So we can't help you in that regard. No, but you can be in a movie, which is just as good as having an eye. The extended version of this reveals that Aragorn is actually 87 years old. Whoa. That's due to the fact that he's a descendant

of the Dunedine and they love having a long life and then getting a wife, which is what happens. That's what they say, isn't it? Yeah, that's what they say. On Miranda Otto's first day of shooting, Liv Tyler welcomed her by saying, I'm so glad there's another woman in this film.

Big shade on Cate Blanchett, but yeah. It's nice to have some women in these movies, isn't it? I mean, they are bros movies for bros. It's true. But women are allowed also. It's a bros time, but yeah, women can come. Sure. Don't you think?

Yeah. If you like nature as much as all us bros do, I guess you can come along. Exactly. It's interesting because if you look at the Uruk-hai in this, they've got like gray hair and blotchy skin. And apparently the backstory behind that is that they're starting to inbreed so they're just they're not coming out right okay so yeah i think that's what's the time frame on that how long does it

take them to breed more Uruk-hai like in a weird goo pod yeah in a goo pod i don't know i've never done that so i don't know what do you think i don't want to? I don't want to think. You don't want to think? No. Good. Also, this is the only Lord of the Rings movie where Frodo doesn't put the ring on. This carries it around. Coward. Yeah, I agree. I'd simply put the ring on and then just walk to Mordor invisible. Yeah.

And then put it in Mandoo. No one would even know. Put it on, dipshit. It is funny that when Bilbo puts it on, he's just like, huh. And when Frodo puts it on, he's like like, I mean, Frodo puts it on, he's like, ah, nightmare shadow world, ah. But I guess things are ramping up, you know? Yeah, sure, okay, yeah.

In the nightmare shadow world and all of that. Oh, that's cause Bilbo has an investment property in the shadow world, he just hangs out. Sweet, invisible to anybody under the age of 90, I assure you. Yeah, yeah assure you. Great stuff. Let me check my notes, if I missed anything. Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na All right. The box office of this, it surpassed the last one with a return of 951.6 million on a budget of around $94 million.

There also was reshoots on this. They all had reshoots. The story that was told was they filmed these all at once and they're all done, but that is not true. Peter Jackson filmed like, I mean, he got through a lot of it, but after getting the first one out the door and doing well, thated him the ability to like he had the trust To go back and add some more stuff so true There is a deleted scene with Boromir which is in the extended cut and there's other stuff and whatever

We're not here to talk about the extended cut. We're to talk about a theatrical experience. We're watching on television That's correct. Yeah, or sometimes in our phone depending on how much time we have. That's right now Let's rank these movies, Mason. So last week the best one that we'd seen was that one. Correct, yes. Out of the first two, what do you think? I reckon maybe the second one thus far is the best one. I think the...

I always used to think it was the first one, but watching this again I'm like, this is... It's a good movie. I don't love the Frodo, Faramir, Sam stuff. I don't love that. I think it's kind of... of feels a bit like treading water It's not uninteresting, but it's probably the least compelling element. And for someone who's not being corrupted by a ring Sam's getting pretty mean Yeah, Sam. Be nice. Be nice. Yeah, yeah your bros. That's right. Be nice to your bros. That's important It's a beautiful message. It is isn't it? Anyways, Lord of the Rings Caravan of Garbage

It's a beautiful message. It is, isn't it? Anyways, Lord of the Rings, Caravan of Garbage. Believe it! Believe it! What if we stopped it too? We could. That would be funny. That would be funny if they did that in real life.

It would be funny. It would be like those Divergent movies, they just stopped. But guess what? We recorded them all at the same time. That's right! And we had to go back and do re-recordings obviously. But yeah, that is, no, just so people know we didn't do that. I don't think I could do that.

I couldn't watch all of this and all the extended and then keep that all in my head. It's just not possible I don't know how anybody made these it doesn't even make sense to me. It's just it's Incomprehensible, they wouldn't make it like this these days with that. They'd make it worse. They'd make the Hobbit movies All the war for the Rohirrim, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I did an ad for it I think so check it out. I am looking forward to that Yeah. Out soon. Yeah, I did an ad for it, I think. So check it out. I am looking forward to that though, genuinely. This is not an ad. I don't care if you say it, but.

Wow. We'll splice that into the ad. We'll splice that into the ad. But yeah, we're doing video games in between. So next week we're gonna look at Return of the King the video game and then come back. Cause obviously these are very dense. So, you know, we're gonna get there.

But if you do want to see these early, you can actually head over to bigsandwich.co where they always go up there early, don't they? Yes. There's also bonus movie commentaries. We do a video game, let's plays. We do bonus podcasts, don't we? That's so true.

We also have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. That comes out every Monday, but early on Sunday. It's also on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, whatever. Yeah, it's all the old and all the Apple stuff. You'll find it. It's an Apple TV Plus, we snuck it in there. We did.

That's right. Thank you so much to Ben and Matty for the edit. Thank you, Ben and Matty. We're having the best time of our lives here, aren't we? Yes. Yeah, we are. All right, and everybody else is. Thanks, and we got those matching

Lord of the Rings caravan of garbage tattoos. That's right. Mine says potatoes, and I got another one just early. It says, looks like YouTube's back on the menu boys. How did that Okna what a menu was? You ever think about that? They don't have menus? Yeah.

You don't think he's been to like a shop? Where they have menus in the shop? Yeah. Uh-huh. You don't think that? No. Yeah. It's a cultural reference that he would-huh. You don't think that? No. Yeah. It's a cultural reference that he would have heard.

You know? Okay. You've heard things that you've never experienced, right? No, I've experienced everything. Okay, don't worry, disregard. Don't forget how fancy and well-learned you are. That's right. Yeah.

All right, thanks everyone. Grab that gym you guys, we'll see you next week. Get ready for the movie event of the year with Disney's Mufasa the Lion King. It's time I tell you a story. A story? About Mufasa and the prince who would come to be known as Scar. So glad I brought some crickets.

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