The Weekly Planet - The Lost World: Jurassic Park - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

How do you top the smash hit that was Jurassic Park 1993? The answer is not The Lost World from 1997. Despite Steven Spielberg bringing some new ideas to the table including a two T-Rex attack, rapt...or death via gymnastics and a Tyrannosaurus loose in the city it never quite hits the heights of the original. Still, they made it and we me this Caravan Of Garbage review. Thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/SzmT36b4WW8Help support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Now, Mason, like any great literary work, or even wedding speech, do you mind if I start this with a quote? Oh, please, be my guest. Okay, here we go. My wedding guest? We're recording this at my wedding, folks. We've interrupted the ceremony because we've got to get out this content.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Got to do it. Father, steady on. So Steven Spielberg, director of this movie we're talking about today, Welcome to Caravan of Garbage, Please Leave a Like, he spoke to the New York Times about his sequels, specifically The Lost World, and this is what he had to say. Confidence is my enemy and it always has been my sequels aren't as good as my originals because i go on to every sequel i've made and i'm too confident this movie made a gazillion dollars which justifies
Starting point is 00:01:36 the sequel so i come in like it's gonna be a slam dunk and i wind up presumably to do a big slam dunk sure and i wind up making an inferior movie to the one before. Now, he was talking specifically, no, not Indiana Jones 4, which is the only other series where he's tackled a sequel. He was talking specifically about The Lost World. Oh, my goodness. Now, how do you feel? Tell us and the guests of your wedding, how do you feel about this?
Starting point is 00:02:02 First of all, I think it's very relatable that a man who is worth, as we recently learned, $3.7 billion is still like, I don't really know what I'm doing. Oh, no. Guys, guys, Mr. Ramblin', I messed up. That's the mascot he's built in the... The bike? Like the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's like one entity? The bike and the ET in the basket? That's exactly right, yes. So just like one terrifying creature? Well, last week i made the very bold claim of course that i think all jurassic park slash world movies are of roughly the same quality yeah having not seen this one or the third one yeah and i can say with some confidence that you're right i was wrong this one is worse okay it's i mean it's it's got it's got a lot of good stuff in it yeah i'd agree with that but it's uh it's let down in some other ways chiefly amongst them i think i think this movie initially began with a with a maybe like a large action montage that sort of perhaps
Starting point is 00:02:56 recap the events of the previous movie and then set up all the you know the various new characters and the old characters what they're up to now and that kind of thing. And then they lost the footage and then they went, just get Hammond to tell Jeff Goldblum, just everything that's happened in a room. What's going on? Yeah. Just tell him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You might be right. One thing I do think works for this movie is, well, it's very bloated. I feel that doesn't work. That's a negative thing. You know, I feel like it feels excessive and drawn out,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but not in a good way at times sure but one thing i think does work is that it's not just they've rebuilt jurassic park and now we're going back to jurassic park i mean they end up doing that movie but the fact that they go no we're going to base this loosely on michael crichton's second novel which also he was writing at the same time spielberg making this, and they were just both like, we'll just do different ideas. So there is some overlap, but it's not really based on the book. This is like the time Rob Grant and Doug Naylor from Red Dwarf. This is an excellent example.
Starting point is 00:03:54 When their partnership broke up and they wrote separate books. Backwards and back to Earth? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Wow. And one was way better than the other one i've read both and you're right but i can't remember which one uh for anybody out there who listens to our podcast
Starting point is 00:04:10 and is looking for us to do a red dwarf episode we just did it that was it that was it and you're welcome very welcome so how do you feel about uh the well there's very few returning characters but obviously we've got ian malcolm he's back he's a little bit grizzled he's cut the mullet he's less like i'm gonna hit on every personled. He's cut the mullet. He's less like, I'm going to hit on every person I see. He's cut the mullet in disgrace because he's blown the whistle on Jurassic Park and InGen, and they've smeared him in public. You can't be a whistleblower with a mullet, you know? Very true.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Look what happened to Julian Assange. They tore him to shreds. Oh, no! And I think it was the mullet, Mason. It was the mullet, that's right. Yeah, but I like the idea of, like, a grizzled guy. He's the only one that spoke out. Everyone else is just like,
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm just going to go back to dig up dinosaurs. I don't want to go on talk shows. Where are his mates? Where are they? Do we see them later? Do we see bloody Ellie and... I'd hate to spoil it for you, Mason. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And is he going to give them a big talking to? I'd hope so. But, yeah, I. Oh, okay. And is he going to give him a big talking to? I'd hope so. But, yeah, I like that idea of this is a guy who learned a lesson despite being right, I guess. Sure, yeah. Yeah. And I also enjoy that. So, wait, the lesson is toy with nature but not lawyers, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I guess so, yeah. That one got eaten on the toilet, remember? Yum, yum, yum. I guess so, yeah. That one got eaten on the toilet, remember? Yum, yum, yum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the idea behind this movie is there's a dinosaur preservation, which is Site B, where they actually bred all the dinosaurs for reels. They didn't do it in that one room that you could visit on a little ride. They came from the island, and that's where the little,
Starting point is 00:05:39 remember the guy gets in the truck? He's coming in the truck, he lifts the gate. Remember the thing? I remember, where he lifts the gate. You shouldn't have done that he got eaten what an idiot anyway it's john hammond's idea that so he's turned into somewhat of a dinosaur preservationist for some reason i guess because of all the people that have been eaten and because he's an insane person his idea is to protect the inhabitants of this island the dinosaurs just get a bunch of photos and then show them to people
Starting point is 00:06:06 and people will go, cool. And not like, yeah, can we see those, please, up close? Can we visit this island? As if people wouldn't visit the island or want the dinosaurs off the island. My first response to that would be, if I saw a photo of a real dinosaur confirmed to be real, I'd be like, I need to see that, please.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, but James, you're forgetting this was the mid-90s. Yep. Internet wasn't very good yet. Mm-hmm. Just looking at some photos was pretty good back then. It sure was, yeah. Wow! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Look at this one. Whoa. 640 by 220. Incredible. Oh. Pretty stellar cast in this, even if some are underused. Vince Vaughn is in this sort of. Early, early period Vince Vaughn,
Starting point is 00:06:45 where they didn't quite know what they wanted him to be. No. They just wanted him to be a star. That's right. He's just been anointed by Hollywood, and they're like, is he a nature preservationist photographer guy? Is he the titular psycho? I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Is he a big fat party crasher? Does he work for Google? No, they knew. They knew by then. He was a guy who would work for Google and crash a golf cart. That's true. That's very much where he's at. But yeah, look, he's fine in this.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Peter Stormare, always fun making an appearance. But a couple of people that I really love the inclusion of in this is Pete Poth-sul-thwaite. The late, great Pete Poth-sul-thwaite. Yes. So Steven Spielberg was quoted at the time as saying, about him, he's the best actor in the world. And so this guy in this movie,
Starting point is 00:07:30 and I don't know if you've known this, people at Mason's wedding. I nearly said funeral. Bloody we keep the bride bloody waiting too long. It might turn into a funeral, all right. You get less for murder, don't you, Mason? Yeah, hell yeah. Anyway, back to the content.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So he wants to hunt dinosaurs, specifically the male T-Rex, because he's a big game hunter and he's bored with regular hunting. There's actually a deleted scene where he gets in a little bar fight. With a dinosaur? With a regular man.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Okay. And the reason is because I've hunted every, if you went to my house, every creature's head is on the wall. I'm bored with hunting. Every creature? Apparently. Lady bug?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Every creature, Mason. Wow. Yeah. But the thing is, though, if you're bored with hunting, maybe you could try hunting, say, without a gun. Maybe you could go hand to hand. Maybe you could put, like, a billiard ball in a sock and try to kill a rhinoceros. You know what I mean? If you're bored, and try to kill a rhinoceros you know what
Starting point is 00:08:25 i mean if you're bored maybe don't use a big gun you know you could try that that thing where there's like the hoop and it's got the fabric on it and you put the like the thread through it and you draw a little picture whatever that's called yeah yeah yeah crochet probably crochet i nearly said crochet might be crochet maybe try crochet pete possels wade but yeah heite. But also he wants to have sex with that T-Rex. He probably does, yeah. He wants to kill the male and he wants to bed the female is what's happening there. That's the subtext here. That's what I got from this guy.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I think he says it, doesn't he, at one point? It's interesting also that when he gets what he wants at the end, the dinosaur sex presumably, he's just like, I hate hunting actually. This was scary and I didn't like it. Stressful. And I quit, I think. I'm going to go back to being an accountant. I also, I like Julianne more as Sarah Harding.
Starting point is 00:09:15 She's a person who knows a lot about dinosaurs, including how far they can smell. She's like, this dinosaur's nose has got the biggest nose, and it can smell anything. And yet she wears a jacket covered in T-Rex infant blood, just running around in that, is she? Are you a... What is wrong with you? Isn't this your job, idiot? A lot of people's brains were turned off, I think,
Starting point is 00:09:35 at various points in this movie. Right at the start, that little girl's like, are you some kind of bird? No. Even if you don't think it's a dinosaur, wouldn't you be like, is this some kind of lizard? Come on. Come on, little girl.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Get out of here. It's not a bird, is it? No. There's a bunch of new dinosaurs in this, including the Pachycephalosaurus, the big firetuck one, as they mentioned. The Stegosaurus. There was huge demand for the Stegosaurus in the first one
Starting point is 00:10:02 after it came out. Kids would harangue Steven Spielberg and be like be like give us your money where's my stego you prick you dog well it's just obviously we were limited by time and budget and it we just felt like if we wanted to make spielberg give me a billion dollars. Oh, okay. So yeah, he included them. Well, actually, the Triceratops from the first movie, in the book, that's actually a Stegosaurus. And also we get the little compies,
Starting point is 00:10:34 which were in the first movie as well, and they're the ones that actually end up killing John Hammond in the book. Now, these new dinosaurs, do they bring a new sense of awe and wonder, or are you like, I'm sick of seeing dinosaurs, actually. I'm bored with them. You know what?
Starting point is 00:10:46 I was a little bit bored, but then my love for dinosaurs was reignited by that one that's just a big battering ram. Well, it's just a big solid bone battering ram that's smashing over jokes and stuff. Haki Cephalosaurus, mate. Yeah, hell yeah. Knocks that dude clean through the car. Yeah, he's fine. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. Big fan. Now, what they've done this time whenever you want to uh to to increase the stakes and increase the tension in a movie mason you put in two t-rexes as opposed to one t-rex right yeah we saw that half really two and a half t-rexes that's right we saw that in king kong the movie maybe was there two or three t-rexes in that it's not important also there were v-rexes it's not important but uh i think that that sequence though of you know of them tearing apart the trailer
Starting point is 00:11:30 flipping cars off and the trailer slowly like flipping cars off flipping tiny little arms nice you know yeah yeah but just seeing them crash through the trees, you know, the trees are, like, waving. Sarah Harding, Julianne Moore, I don't know if it's her or a stunt double, she does a lot of really solid, like, falls in this. There's a moment where she hits the glass. Like, that's a real stunt. There's the moment where the raptor, like,
Starting point is 00:11:59 strikes her on the back and she does that, like, face slide. Yeah, yeah. She falls off a roof at one point, which is a really solid fall as well. Just good falling around, you know what I mean? That's what you can do when you're young. You can fall and be like, I'm fine. I can't fall now.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I'm not allowed to. I'll die. Yeah, if we fell now, the crowd would gather. That's how that works. Yeah, I mean, you know, there was a great sense of tension in that trailer scene where it's hanging over the side of the cliff. A special shout-outs to, let's see, Richard Schiff as Eddie. Oh, they did my man Eddie dirty in this.
Starting point is 00:12:32 He's the MVP of this movie. I agree. Just saving the whole team, and then they just tear him to shreds, those T-Rexes, you know? And then they're like, what about Eddie? Eat Eddie. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
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Starting point is 00:13:14 the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. He is daddy. Yeah. I think somebody says that. Is that right? Maybe. I've certainly said it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 He is deady, yeah. I think somebody says that, is that right? Maybe. I've certainly said it. Yeah, I mean, also looking at those three adults hold onto a slippery rope for that long, I'm like, not possible. You ever tried to actually climb a rope? It's really difficult, Mason.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Never, no. Anyway, I've set up this rope for you. All right, here we go. He's doing it. He's incredible, actually. Hold my tuxedo jacket, here we go. I think another good sequence is in this. For the most part, I guess, though, it does lose the impact when you're doing it the second time,
Starting point is 00:14:12 is the raptors are back. A different pack of raptors. And when they're running through the tall grass, which actually a team started growing like a year before to get it to that height, which is pretty impressive. That's real grass. It's real grass, mate. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Real grass on my right, everybody. Oh, mate. Not in the house of God, James. Absolutely not, yes. No jokes about that in the house of God. But seeing, you see people getting pulled under and then the tail flick up. Yeah, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's a really cool visual. Look, we've talked about the excitement of the dinosaurs. Yes. And the new dinosaurs and how thrilling they were. How did you feel about the look of the dinosaurs this time around? Because it's not as good. There's more CG in this, right? Yeah, there is more CG, and I think a lot of this is,
Starting point is 00:14:57 when it's filmed in the daytime, you can't hide a lot of it. So I think at the end when the T-Rex is stomping through the city, I think all of that looks really great because it's in the dark. But mostly anything here that's in, you know, broad daylight, including the Stegosaurus confrontation, is just kind of like... It's a little washed out. It does look a little washed out, yeah. But, you know, you've got to also remember, Mason,
Starting point is 00:15:18 and I need you to remember this, that it was 1997. I need you to remember that. Man, I looked at so many pictures then. Wow! I bet you did. Dinosaurs! Incredible! And, you know, I like that Malcolm,
Starting point is 00:15:30 having not really dealt with raptors before, but, you know, he's got an idea of how to kind of... He probably heard a lot of boring stories about them on the helicopter ride home. And the hooting and the hollering as he was lying down or whatever. You know, he has a confrontation with one, and he's holding the door, and he takes that tumble through the glass
Starting point is 00:15:46 and there's one trying to break through the car window. I think all that's pretty solid. But of course, the real MVP, MVP? The real MVP, Mason. Yes, go on. The real MVP of this movie is the gymnastics routine, which saves them all in the end.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Absolutely. Now, people don't like this. They say, that's unrealistic. I don't like that. I don't like what's happening in this dinosaur movie with these gymnastics. That's the most realistic part of this movie. I agree. They would have had to do gymnastics for real.
Starting point is 00:16:12 If the dinosaurs had learned gymnastics, maybe that would be a step too far. Yeah, I mean, if you give... Or a leap too far. It's true. If you gave a raptor long enough in these movies, it could probably learn a gymnastics routine. Sure, yeah. Just in that moment, it was probably like,
Starting point is 00:16:26 what the Swiss is this? What is happening? And then kick onto a thing. It's cheesy and whatever, but also kids watch these movies and they just want to see a girl kick a raptor onto a big spike. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Now, this ends a certain way, Mason, but there was an original ending. So how the version we saw ends is there's a little... They show the island and all the dinosaurs are hanging out? Oh, yes, and the public discovers that the... They'd be real. They'd be real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But the original ending for this was the main players in this were going to escape the island via hang gliders and then helicopters, right? Okay. So they were going to, what, leap off a hang glider in flight and land on a helicopter in flight? Presumably. But that's also while they were being attacked by pteranodons,
Starting point is 00:17:09 which is why I think the one at the end looks so good is because they probably modelled them for a sequence which they never used. So they're like, where can we put these in? I don't know at the end. Who cares? So that was replaced by the sequence in the city because initially Steven Spielberg wanted to save the San Diego sequence for a third movie.
Starting point is 00:17:28 However, he was like, I hate making this and I don't want to make another one of these. I've got a quote here that's something like, I beat myself up growing more and more impatient with myself. It made me wistful about doing a talking picture because sometimes I got the feeling I was just making this big silent raw movie. I found myself saying, is this all there is? Is it's not enough for me?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah, for sure. We all feel like I don't know. We'll put in the sequence in the city or whatever. And I think, look, it's the best version of Godzilla 1998 we've ever seen. Absolutely. Yeah. I think it's a lot of fun. Genuinely.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And, you know, seeing the boat roll in as boats do, like tear up that deck for real, and then watch the T-Rex escape and just have a bit of fun in the city. You know, I like all of that. I did like the part where one of the T-Rexes sneaks up really quietly on that lawyer at the end. It's like doing a little tiptoe. You love comeuppance, don't you? Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Big nerd comeuppance. He thought he knew better. That's right. But it turns out he didn't know that much in the end, did he? You love comeuppance, don't you? Absolutely, yeah. Big nerd comeuppance. Hell yeah. He thought he knew better. That's right. But it turns out he didn't know that much in the end, did he? The worst kind of nerd. Yeah, so you know how, though, it's odd because when that boat comes in, the T-Rex is trapped.
Starting point is 00:18:42 There's dead people everywhere, including like severed hands in places there shouldn't be, considering the T-rex is like trapped inside right so initially it was supposed to be there were velociraptors on that boat as well but i think then it's like well then you've got to deal with that and then you've got to deal with the t-rex so i think for you know for the sake of simplicity they went we'll just do the let's say that the velociraptors killed some of the crew and then they got off on a lifeboat and they formed a new society on that island over there. That's right. That's right, Gilligan's Island.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Wow. Come on, everyone. That's too specific, isn't it? No. Do you reckon this will stay in when we do the theme song to Ship to Shore? Do you think that'll stay in? Yeah, that'll stay no, no. That's too specific, isn't it? No. Do you reckon this will stay in when we do the theme song to Ship to Shore? Do you think that'll stay in? Yeah, that'll stay in, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay, that's it. That's it. I've left it in. Great, terrific. People love a local reference. Ben and Lawrence love watching all 180 episodes of Australian TV series from the 90s, Ship to Shore. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I think it's, before we do green trivia. Sure. It's interesting that the end John Hammond is just like, Namaste, everybody. Step aside and trust in nature. Life finds a way. Does he think he's just avoiding legal confrontations? No, I think he just repeats that as a mantra because he's gone mad.
Starting point is 00:20:00 He didn't even say it initially. You know, he's using other people's lines because now Ian Malcolm is going to be like. You think he's musking this? That's what I'm saying, yeah. Do you think he purchased the rights to say life finds a way for Ian Malcolm? I don't think he purchased them. I think he just did it. Oh, no!
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's what billionaires do, Mason. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, it's time for green trivia. Okay. Got some fascinating stuff here. I have one piece of green trivia, if I may. Please.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm just looking at the Lost World Wikipedia page. And it just says here, Pete Possilthwaite as Roland Tembo, a big game hunter who adheres to his own strict moral code. Whoa. And then a little bit later, it says Harvey Jason as AJ Sidhu, hunting partner and Roland Tembo's best friend. That's nice. Isn't it nice? It's good to have a best friend. Do they say specifically we're best friends in this?
Starting point is 00:20:44 I think they do. That's great. There's a moment where best friends in this? I think they do. That's right. There's a moment where they're being chased by dinosaurs and they stop. And they're like, tell you what, if there's anybody who wants to be chased by dinosaurs, it's you, Peter Potts. Wait, you're my best mate. I love you so much. But just as mates, because it's the 90s.
Starting point is 00:20:55 We can't be anything more than that. I'm sorry. Oh, my legs. My legs are gone. Anyway, it's time for more green trivia. I love it. So Julianne Moore admitted that she did this movie to pay off a divorce settlement. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And also to work with Steven Spielberg. Those two things. Just to be clear, Steven, I'd love to be here. It's just an absolute honour to work with a legend of the industry, but also I'm... Give me my money. Yeah, I need divorce money. Hey, Spielberg, give me my money.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Where's my divorce money, Spielberg? You want some of this So yeah she was She went up for Ali Actually in the previous movie Now you might have noticed When we visited a Blockbuster video store
Starting point is 00:21:32 Mason During this movie Sure sure sure During the big T-Rex attack So there's a couple of Made up posters there For fictional movies You see
Starting point is 00:21:40 Exist in this universe There's Robin Williams' Jack and the Beanstalks Presumably a spin Like a play on Hook There's Arnold Schwarzen Jack and the Beanstalks, presumably a spin, like a play on hook. There's Arnold Schwarzenegger's King Lear and Tom Hanks in Tsunami. Surprise. So that's fun.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Love it. You can see all of those. See, in the modern day, they would not dare to put those in because people would demand that those movies actually get made. Oh, yeah. And those three superstar celebrities
Starting point is 00:22:05 would never get a moment's peace again for the rest of their lives. And every interview they ever did would be like, what are you going to do to Tsunami Surprise? What are you going to play King Lear? Tom Hanks would be like, shut up! Shut up! Shut up! I'm mean, actually.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I'm not nice. I used to be nice, but then this ruined my life. I'm going to get you for this, Spielberg. Give me your money. Give me all your money. I don't know. It's amazing Spielberg's got any money. Right?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Just constantly being hit up for money. The working title, actually, this is fine. You'll like this. The working title for the original Star Wars was actually Blue Harvest. That's incredible. I love that. It's really good, yeah. A lot of people don't know that. And it's good to bring that information forward to everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Now, in terms of box office, this had a slightly higher budget of $73 million. And it also had a bigger opening weekend than the first Jurassic Park. Word of mouth. People are excited because Spielberg hadn't made a movie in four years. He did Schindler's List and Jurassic Park in the one year and then went, I think I hate movies. So he quit for a bit. I needed a break. But this ended up making $618 million worldwide,
Starting point is 00:23:15 which is significantly less. It's not a bomb by any stretch, but much less than the first Jurassic Park. And I think maybe the word of mouth was just like, yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty all right. I mean, yeah. You want to see more big dinosaurs that look pretty good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Watch this, I guess. People probably saw the episode of Sliders where there was dinosaurs and went, that's enough dinosaurs. Thank you very much. That's the perfect dinosaur tail. And I will not have any more dinosaurs. Thank you very much. I'm full to the brim of dinosaurs right now.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So, yeah. I don't know. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. It's definitely not the worst Jurassic World Park sequel. I mean, so far it is. As far as I'm concerned, it's the worst one I've seen. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Okay. I don't know. I have to re-watch the new ones. You have to re-watch, yeah. But, of course, we're going to come back next week to talk about Jurassic Park 3. It's a bit of contention on this. This is the one where they go back in time to feudal Japan, right?
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's exactly right. It's really exciting. Can a T-Rex stand up against the beautifully forged katana? Yes. Nice. I would say so, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to revisiting that one because there's a bit of contention in that.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I think it's pretty lean in terms of like a movie experience. Yeah. But I think that's also might be one of its faults. Anyways, we'll talk about it next week on Caravan of Garbage.
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Starting point is 00:24:47 And we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. It comes out every Monday. Of course, we're going to have an episode on the new Jurassic World movie, whatever that is called. I've just seen a big amber poster and I went, ooh, that's something I recognise. And I'm ready to sink my teeth in, pardon the pun,
Starting point is 00:25:05 to something Jurassic Time. Terrific. Yep. And leave your thoughts on this movie, I guess. Absolutely. Yeah. Now play us out, church lady. See, I'm still getting married.
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Starting point is 00:25:25 Right? Yeah. Goodbye. Yeah, grab that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret.
Starting point is 00:25:58 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil starring Elizabeth Moss is now streaming on Disney+.

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