The Weekly Planet - The Predator - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

We've reached the end of the 20th Century Fox era of Predator movies, right before the Disney purchase in 2019. This particular entry had a lot going for it, the return of director Shane Black to the... franchise, an R rating, solid cast, big budget and yet it's regarded as probably the worst movie in the franchise with the inclusion of a giant nine feet tall Predator and movie Autism as a superpower. Thanks for coming with us on this particular journey and thanks for watching this particular Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravanagh Garbage where we're wrapping up the original era of Predator Movies. This is pre the Disney Purchase of Fox. Oh, is it? Yes! I don't know, dates. No? What do you think of this date?
Starting point is 00:00:14 That's the date of your death. Oh, what? Yeah. What do you think, though? I mean, great. Ben and Lawrence, they knew that. You didn't know that they knew when you were going to die? No.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Oh, there you go. But that's comforting in a way, I guess? Yeah, I think so. Because I guess I can do anything until that day. There's no confidence. consequences. You notice there's no year, it's just the date. Oh, I see. Right. Okay. Well, at least have that amount of time. Exactly. To do crimes. Fantastic. We're of course talking about the Predator from 2018. Please leave a like, if you could. That would be great because it's good
Starting point is 00:00:48 to go back and revisit what many thought would be a return to form. Who thought that? Everybody, Shane Black returns because he of course had a hand in the original Predator. He didn't direct it, but he had some uncredited rewrites. He's in it, and between that movie and this, he, of course, directed a bunch of stuff that people like, and then he directed this. Uh-oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Now, we talked about this a little bit before recording. It's slightly better than I remember. I think it, look, I... But it's pretty fucking awful, though. I think I was too harsh on it at the time. I think I had more fun with this time around, but I would say there are two very big problems with this movie, which I'm sure we'll get into.
Starting point is 00:01:26 But I didn't hate it so much. Yeah. I think, you know what, I think, I mean, give me your opening thoughts, chams, and we'll... Well, the opening in the movie is kind of interesting because it just throws a bunch of stuff at you at once. Like, it's predator be predator in a ship, there's a wormhole, there's a ship crash. They do the first predator in about a minute and a half, and then the rest of the movie starts, and it's about a predator, and we should talk about the story, who wants to save humanity, but he starts the movie by skinning a bunch of guys, and he kills a bunch of people through the movie
Starting point is 00:01:58 that he doesn't really have to in order to save humanity. It's like that... I think it's probably just like that natural instinct. You know how like a cat will like bring like a dead mouse to your doorstep, right? Because it thinks you're a cat, but you're bad at being a cat. I'm good at being a cat. Well, the cat doesn't think so.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But despite the fact that the cat, you know, is provided with food and shelter by you, it thinks it's so... This instinct is so powerfully ingrained in it that it's like, this cat's bad at being a cat. I better bring it a little treat or whatever. I don't see it catch anything. But I think this predator is just like, I'm going to save humanity.
Starting point is 00:02:34 God, I love killing humans though. I love it. It's interesting, you mentioned that. Maybe one of the things that this movie does poorly is it over explains everything. It doesn't need, we don't need to know how predators get to Earth. But I guess they had to explain that there is a wormhole hyperdrive system situation going.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Don't need that at all. No, you don't need to, if you want to do a ship crash, you could just do it crashed. It crashed. It doesn't matter how. what got there or by what method of interstellar travel. It's irrelevant, really. But I think you're right in terms of detail because...
Starting point is 00:03:06 Unless, of course, James, they traveled via like crystal spheres or whatever. You know, like that old-timey interpretation of like planets are in spheres and then there's like, what do you call it, like a, like a frickin, what do you call it that stuff? I don't know. You know, that, um, that ectoplasm. Oh, okay. It's a floating ectoplasm or whatever. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You'd be like, that's a little odd. Doesn't square with our understanding of... of the galaxy, really? I think he hit the nail on the head, though, in terms of, like, over-explaining, because this story, I would describe it as, my note is, intertwined nonsense. There's a lot of people explaining things
Starting point is 00:03:40 and people running around and different groups and motivations and stories and government agencies and history and law. Okay, but I think all the other predator movies have those, but I think the thing about this one is, there's a big thing that should be chopped out. I think it's the family stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Absolutely. I think that's, look, I think I understand why maybe they thought this would be a good innovation to put into the Predator franchise, make it more relatable or something like that. But I don't think the Predator franchise needs that. I think you could just do the evolution thing, the bunch of ex-military guys in the Looney Bin thing. Yeah. I think you could do...
Starting point is 00:04:16 I mean, Predator thrives on like a rag-tag bunch. Yeah. We've seen that multiple times. But I think the... It's the autism as a superpower thing. Oh, my God. Absolutely. That's the number one thing that it's the family thing, which I think is unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I think Boyd Holbrook is a good kind of Disney Fox Marvel Stolwater. I think he's good in things. He's Indiana Jones 5. Exactly, he's Indiana Jones 5. But I think you didn't need to put the family thing in. I think you can just have him be a stone cold killer. Like everybody
Starting point is 00:04:44 in all these movies is a stone cold killer. Yeah, absolutely. Except for Danny Glover who's just mad that he had to come to work. Yeah. And that has driven him. To be a stone cold killer. Yes. So yeah, the predator, the original, it's not the original, but it's the type of the original predator. He comes to earth to gift humanity something which will halt an upcoming predator war that's coming because
Starting point is 00:05:04 there's other predators who like to steal different elements of species from around the galaxy. That's another one of the things that gets over-explained because in the previous, all the previous predator media, the predators kill somebody and then pull their spine out. Yes. And in previous ones, it's just like, well, yeah. They like it. They like doing it and it's fun. And look at a bum waving the spine about.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But in this, they go, well, it's actually, they're taking the spinal fluid and they're using that for DNA purposes. You don't need to explain that. We don't need any of that. Yeah. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant to the law. It's never going to be talked about again. Don't worry about it. Yeah, absolutely. And then on top of that, so you've got the original predator who is actually good despite killing a bunch of people. There is an even, this is a... He can't help, but he's a cat. He's a house cat. Settle down. You're right. But it's also, this is a bigger predator situation, which also is like the movie Predators, where they bring in like a nine foot tall predator. He's 11 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:05:56 11 foot tall, it doesn't matter. But he say it's 11 feet tall. He's too big. You fall into the same trap as one of the characters in the movie The Predator, where he says it's 10 feet tall. The other guy says, no, he's actually 11 feet tall. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. He's also completely CGI, which I think takes away from it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That is irrelevant. The scales, it's too much. And a lot of the Super Predator effect is quite foggy. Yeah. Because they've had to add a completely CGI character to an environment that doesn't suit it really. Yeah. I mean, I feel like a huge strength of the Predator is that, that really. Predator suit, get a really big guy, which again, this movie has.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Shane Black even tweeted in April of 2017, I'm standing on set next to a seven-foot-tall gentleman in a predator suit, so no, it's not all CGI. But it kind of is, because that original Predator kind of is wiped out early on, and then you got this other thing running around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Ragtag team is awful. You don't like him? No.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's a great cast. It's a great cast. Keeg and Michael Key. Yeah. We got Thomas Jane is in there. Others are in there. Olivia Munn joins the team I guess if I had one
Starting point is 00:06:59 criticism of this team it's that they all seem to think they're in a different movie Olivia Munn is playing it straight like she's in Predator 1 probably A lot of them Kegan Michael Key thinks he's in a Key and Peele sketch
Starting point is 00:07:16 about the Predator I think Yeah Maybe I don't know And the way they rapidly introduce them It's not very endearing It's like there's this guy and here's this stereotype and there's this guy
Starting point is 00:07:27 and he's a different stereotype. It's also not funny. They have this kind of complex personal relationship that you don't get a sense of. I feel like when they're talking to other people, it's like they've never spoken to anybody ever. I think some of it was kind of fun. But I think where you're going with that,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I think there was maybe some room to improvise on set and they're like, we can't throw any of this away. Well, they should have thrown most, if not all of this away. Oh, yes. Look, upon a second watch, I kind of like this team. Do you like how one of them's got Tourette's? Movie Tourette's? Movie magic Tourette's?
Starting point is 00:07:58 No. In a way, isn't that like a super? Well, I don't see the Predator stealing that Mason, so it can't really be a superpower in the Predator universe. All right. So Jane Black went on to defend this. He said, I have Tourette's myself, maybe not as bad as yours. This is when he was replying on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Also, don't do that. Don't worry about it. But, man, can I bark? Mead Zero disrespect. Happy to talk to you about it, if you like. I feel like his inclusion of that and also autism as a superpower, I don't think it came from like a malicious place because he mentions also that he had an ex-girlfriend
Starting point is 00:08:30 who had two kids with autism and he was trying to do something unique and kind of highlight it in a movie. I don't think it meant to be as just kind of fucking ham-fisted as it is. Yeah, yeah. But it's got it's shit, I don't like it. With that additional backstory, it sounds like he was trying to write a movie
Starting point is 00:08:47 in which his ex-girlfriend's children get abducted by aliens. And who's going to save them? And getting their heads torn off. But who's going to save them? Well, nobody, I guess. Yeah, no, but Shane Black doesn't have, doesn't have super special forces abilities, does he? No, I guess he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:09:01 So I guess they'd just be hurled out into space, then thrown through that wormhole, and then take them back to the alien planet and then beheaded, and their spinal foot turned into special DNA, I guess. Yeah, yeah. But also, like, what does a predator want with autism? Well, I guess movie autism is magic, and you can decode any language and do whatever. He's the ultimate warrior, this boy. So I guess I just answer my own question.
Starting point is 00:09:21 That's right. A magic ability. that this kind of autism provides. I know I talked about it when this movie came out, but I just, I fucking hate this kind of stuff in movies. And I don't think we've seen it as much since. No. But it's that Rain Man savant thing
Starting point is 00:09:36 that's just been done time and time again, and it's just never, it's so very rarely being done well. And this is a good example of that. Agreed. Not being done well, not being done well, just to be clear. No, that was unclear. But Mason... There should be a diagram on screen to explain what you meant.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But Mason... Yes. I've got here, this is fun and good actually. Good movie alert. These are some things that I liked actually. Oh, interesting, okay. Good movie for a second sometimes. Bois-voir.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah. Okay, go ahead. The Lab Massacre's fun. Yes, agreed. Because as well, I think that upon a rewatch, the movie starts off to me and sort of a wrong foot where it's like, how these guys take care of this predator so easily? But then, Table's turn.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. And he's like, he bites. Yes. Oh, this guy's real good. He's got a real lazy, he's got a real lazy machine gun firing kind of stance where he just sort of swings it wildly. Yeah, that Lucy Goosey Han Solo kind of shooting style. Maybe he took that, you know? And that's got, that scene has Gary Busey's son.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It does. Well, that's another thing I like because Gary Bucy's son, Jake Bucy, plays Gary Bucy's character's son who's in The Predator 2 in this. So all the law from every Predator movie and AVP movie is in this. We also see a cabinet and there's a mask from Predator 2. Ooh, a cabinet. No, this thing's in it. Okay. There's a mask from Predator 2 and Alien versus Predator.
Starting point is 00:11:00 There's a spear from Predator too. There's a shoulder blaster from Alien vs. Predator. And there's the Spear and Xenomorph tale thing from Alien versus Predator also, which means, and I think we talked about this, the Predator movies are canon with the Alien versus Predator movies, but the Alien Movies aren't canon with the Alien versus Predator movies. Interesting. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:11:20 No. Because there's different cyborgs and lands. Hendrickson and whatever. Cyborgs, replicants, whatever they're called. It's also interesting there's a line... Synthetics! It's also interesting there's a line in this movie about how like the aliens came to Earth in
Starting point is 00:11:32 1987 and then in 1997. The weirdest thing to me, I think, is that Predator 2 is in canon with any of these other movies. Like, just that... That happened. Yeah, that just like Los Angeles in 997 was just this gang war, Jamaican voodoo... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Hellscape. And then what? They just cleaned it up? Yeah, they cleaned it up. I guess Danny Glover just walked out, did a press conference, and he's like, I killed this guy. Yeah. Settle down, everyone. Put your heads in. You think after they froze him that maybe things would have kicked off again.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Guess not? But I guess they didn't. Yeah. I like Sterling K. Brown in this. Well, that was another thing I liked. He's great. He also does this kind of wishy-washy flip side thing, and then he just shoots his own head off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I guess, but then I guess he's kind of like the spiritual successor to Gary Busey. Oh, okay, yeah. Just a guy who's very, very unhinged and he shouldn't be at the top of the food chain here, but he just got there. Yeah, you know. He did. And also, I think it's a better use of pro-dogs. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Until they give that one a brain injury and then it's just a dog. And then it's not as interesting, I feel. Okay. Yeah. If I had to have any complaints about the things that I like, that's one of the things that I both like and is also a complaint. Oh, yes. Yeah. The ending of this is, it's just this farce in the forest.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, yes. It's just nonsense running about. It's like a mid-summer night's dream. It is. A farce in the forest. Stirling came round again, shoots his own head off, and that's fun. It happened so quickly that I'd forgotten that happened, that I rewound it to see that that's just how they dealt with that character. And that's what you did in cinemas at the time as well.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You were like, everybody stopped, water back. Then they're on top of the ship, and they're flying around and it's got... Doesn't look good. No. Well, it's a reshoot. We'll talk about why. And there's a force feel. But then they crashed the ship
Starting point is 00:13:21 But it's a good thing That they fly it back To where Olivia Mun was And the dog I liked how one of the rag tag crew You know He survived shooting himself in the head Because he was in a really bad place
Starting point is 00:13:34 But at the end of the movie He gets to finally fulfill his wish By leaping into the engine Of the predator ship And crashing it Oh the dream The dream Yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then this predator Who's bulletproof For the entirety of the movie Until he's not He's just not Well, everybody in this movie has a certain amount of plot armour until they don't need to have it anymore. Until they shoot the back of their head off. If I had another criticism of this movie.
Starting point is 00:13:56 This is not very good movie. Yes. It's that a lot of... More characters survive into the third act than I think probably should. Yes, yeah. You're right. The only people that cop it really are like the miscellaneous special forces guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Just a lot of guys in black with helmets and assault rifles who just like... They get shot right next to the named characters. Yeah. The named characters get to live... to fight another day, you know what I mean? And I think it's okay to like, you put in the lab massacre because it shows just one of them cut and loose. It kills a bunch of mostly faceless, nameless people.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But then to, yeah, to keep doing that to special forces, who cares? Yeah, who cares, Mason? Agreed. You know, who's the fairest predator of them all, you know what I mean? Let's quickly do this. It's a segment to every week. It is the sexiest predator. It's the first one.
Starting point is 00:14:39 We know that already, don't we. I mean... We both know it. It's confirmed, Mason. Mason, you're going to die. Just admit it. What? Your death date.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Oh, I'd forgotten about that. Good reminder, thanks. You're welcome. I'll put it in my calendar. You don't need to go to your grave with secrets, all right? I don't find any of them sexy. No, it's who's the sexiest? You don't need to find them sexy.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Well, I mean, I guess I find them all equally sexy. That's good too, Mason. Yeah. Okay, so as mentioned, I think the original The Predator in this is not the original of the Predator, but he is. He's bad. Like, I know he's come to worth to give us a weapon, a beautiful weapon we can all use, which I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But, you know, he doesn't kill a naked Olivia Mum. And I guess so there's some of that predator fairness in him And again, he was here to help But he did a lot of bad stuff So I would say not fair Not fair and rude, especially he was going against his instincts That's true And they locked him up
Starting point is 00:15:33 They did He's like I'm trying to help you guys Yeah I'm gonna kill you now If you didn't let me help You did this Yeah fair And the super predator the worst
Starting point is 00:15:44 Probably the worst predator we've seen in a movie He's too big He's nine feet tall isn't he No, he's 11thay tall. He doesn't look real. It reminds me of Predator Killer of Killers, which is an all-C-G-I Predator movie, but it works in that because they're all C-G-I.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Everything in that movie is C-G-I. Yeah. So none of them are the fairest in this. That's true. I also think this has one of the worst endings to a movie. That's, that is my, like, of... To a movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Not the Predator movie. To a movie. So, I mean, so if I had, like I said, I got two major criticisms of this. movie. I think it could have been, I think it could have been a way better movie. Yeah. And maybe it nearly was. It's the autism of, is a superpower thing, and it's this ending. And I think this movie's ending is a lot like the final season of Game of Thrones. It's so bad that it makes the rest of the movie seem significantly worse than it is. Now, I'm not saying it's
Starting point is 00:16:38 great. But, but the reason for that is, and I'm sure you've got all the details here, is they had to film something and they didn't really know what it was. The predator bought something, and They didn't know what that something was. But it was going to be amazing. Well, it was going to be, there were a few things they did film. We've talked about this before. There was going to be a cryostasis pod marked Whalen Utani. And it might have contained either Alan Ripley or the adult newt from aliens,
Starting point is 00:17:04 which would introduce time travel. Yes. There was talk about... But hey, we just introduced wormholes, so why not? Yeah. You know? There was talk about reintroducing Dutch at the end. And that might not even been, at this part, it might have been like earlier on where Dutch comes out
Starting point is 00:17:16 and he goes, you've done a good job. I feel like with every Predator sequel, they're like, we were going to bring Dutch back at the end and he was going to come out and say, you did a good job. But they've never done it. They've never done it.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But now, with CGI, we can do that. That's true, yeah. And what did they end up doing? I guess they just ended up. And there's so much buildup as well. Yeah. They're doing a walk and talk down the halls, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:41 and Boyd Holbrook's got his dress uniform on. He's being introduced to this new facility. And they're like, we've got really something special for you. and here it is. And then they open up the... And then the kids like, well, I think you'd translate it
Starting point is 00:17:52 as the predator killer. And we're like, whoa, who's the predator killer? Yeah. In this human-shaped box. Who's going to be in there? And then they open the box and it's just a gaunt thing
Starting point is 00:18:02 and you put it on and then it badly CGIs a human being into a predator-looking Iron Man-style suit that's got these really ridiculous unbalanced guns and it's got 10 laser sights on it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yep. Ugh. Yeah. Awful. And he goes, that's my preference. predator suit. I think you'll find it chose that nerdy lab assistant.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So I guess he's the predator killer now. Yeah. Also, I assume there's also like tech specs to recreate this because otherwise it's one guy. Like the predator killer to stop this upcoming war. Yeah. They've sent one suit, yeah. But we don't know. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And we'll never know. But that was added as like a sequel bait. But this had huge reshoots. So I don't even know if this was Shane Blacksfold or who did this. But it was received really poorly in test screenings. It was deemed too talkative. So in July of 2018, this was a year after principal photography, they went back and re-shot like the back third. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So the original cut had the loonies, as they were called, the fun group of different fun men being fun. I would have called them the fun group of different fun men being fun. They join up with a newly arrived group of predators. That's what I call all my buddies. Fun group of fun men being fun Down the pub They team up with a I was going to say a fun group
Starting point is 00:19:24 But a group of good predators Who just arrived To fight against the upgraded predator There's images of this They're like on a tank together I don't know if you've seen this I haven't seen that no Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:36 And I guess one of the original ideas was The Fugitive Predator was protecting them From the upgraded predator Right And they all have to band together Also Edward James Almost was in this. We just say he was almost in it?
Starting point is 00:19:48 He was almost in it. About 45 minutes. People also thought it was too talky, so about 45 minutes was cut from this. Wait, who was Edward James almost going to be? Just a character that was removed. Probably a government man. Or maybe he was in the fun group of fun men.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm a new character and you've done a really good job, everyone. Let me check that actually. Because he's not been a character in any of the... Was he going to be his character from Blade Runner? I mean, they're sort of... Battlestar Galactica. They're interconnected. He was going to be General Douglas Woodhurst
Starting point is 00:20:20 and status. Scenes were deleted from Final Film. That's great. There's no wiki page for this character, apparently. Yeah, of course. That's according to Google AI, if you believe that, which I know you do. Well, it helped us, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:32 designed CGI AI Dutch, who says we're doing a really good job. Here he is. Here he is. Also, Francois, Fongwai, Yip. She played Utani in Alien v. Predator Requiem. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And she had a scene in this that was deleted where she was credited as tracking supervisor. And it's probably likely that she was playing Utani again. Right. But that was gone. There's a huge list of deleted scenes from this movie. This has been hacked to pieces. And also, the script was leaked beforehand. That also led to rewrites.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And also, apparently the version that was shown, a lot of the special effects weren't finished. So people didn't like that. though, I'm like, this doesn't look very good, but it's like, yeah. You fools! Use your imagination. Just imagine there's a very tall predator nine feet. Come on, man. Do any of the script revisions explain why at the start of the movie,
Starting point is 00:21:28 when Boyd Holbrook finds the little predator's sphere that makes you turn invisible? Visible ball. That instead of swallowing it and then getting on a plane, why wouldn't he just turn invisible and get on a plane? Yeah. I don't think that's in either of the scripts. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Where I are Hollywood script writer, I probably would have put that in. Well, I think with this pitch, you're going to get there. Or I would have had a scene where he had to pull it out. Which is implied, but it's not there. But you want to see it. I want to see it. Camera in the toilet. Please.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Wherever you want, multiple cameras all over the bathroom. Shane Black. Maybe just a close up on his face. I think that's probably the best. And he's just flickering in and out of invisibility. Yeah, yeah. And his chat comes up with the fun guys who are doing... bunch of fun and they're like, we believe in you, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:16 They're all there, having a fun time. Apparently, Shane Black did talk to 20th Century Fox about finishing it up and re-releasing this movie as a two and a half hour cut with all the footage and they're like, this is too expensive and we're obviously not. So this is probably gone forever unless somebody leaks it. I'm not really that interested in saying it, to be honest. Nah, really. Anyways, Mason, do you know what's time for?
Starting point is 00:22:39 What's the time for? It's time of the trivia section of the show called Come with me if you want a trivia, You familiar with this famous quote? Yeah, but it's not from this movie, is it? Yeah, but they're all connected in comics, so I think that's... It's not even from a Predator movie. Yeah, but they're all connected in comics. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Why don't you just call it I'm trivia? Like, I'm Batman. Yeah? Because Batman versus Predator. I'm trivia, everyone. Nice, good. Okay. Finally, some sense. Finally, this video's making some sense.
Starting point is 00:23:10 When the Predator grabs its mask from the display case, the original Predator Mask from the movie 1987 is seen there also. It didn't die in an explosion. But I guess it's made of Predator material. Maybe it just sort of bobs along on the energy wave. Yeah, you might be right. Speaking of Predators,
Starting point is 00:23:27 this movie nearly featured a real-life predator. You know about this. I do. This isn't fun, everybody. Here we go. Actor Steve Wilder was originally cast as a minor character in this movie. But 20th Century Fox removed his scenes a few days before the picture locked
Starting point is 00:23:41 when actress Olivia Munn informed the studio that he was arrested, charged and registered as a sex offender in 2010 after facing allegations that he attempted to lure a 14-year-old girl into a sexual relationship via the internet. Shane Black, who had already cast Striegel in Iron Man 3 in a small role and also the nice guys, initially defended the casting as giving an old friend a second chance but later apologised and took full responsibility of causing such controversy.
Starting point is 00:24:03 He was playing a jogger who repeatedly tried to hit on Munn's character and the scene was meant to be her character's original introduction. Wow. Wow. What a thing to... attempt to put in a movie. And they probably would have just put it in if somebody didn't say something. Yeah. And this is a fun thing.
Starting point is 00:24:17 This is just a fun one. Okay, great. That wasn't a fun one. That wasn't a fun. This better be a fun one. This better be a real fun. The line that discusses the validity of the name, The Predator, when referring to the creature, was taken from a conversation that Olivia Mann had with her sister prior
Starting point is 00:24:29 to filming. And I think that's okay to be like, well, he's not so much a predator. He's a game hunter and whatever. It's a great point, actually. And that's the kind of pedantry that I love in a movie. That's right. Yeah. I've got the budget in.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm an idiot. I'm such an idiot, Mason. He's stupid idiot, fucking idiot. Can't do anything right. James, you can't do anything right. I want to be clear about that. You can't do anything right. I'm not here to support.
Starting point is 00:24:55 You can't do anything right. On a budget of $88 million, I don't think that's true. I can't prove that. Seems low, you're saying? With massive reshoots. Ramp me a reshoots and they had to build that CGI predator suit that looks so cool at the end. Yeah, at least they got that asset for later. That's true.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's true. It made $160.5 million of the box office, so it did not break even, accounting for marketing, et cetera, and so forth. It was actually, though, a record-setting opening weekend of $24.6 million, because it was the worst possible opening for a film on more than 4,000 screens, actually $7 million lower than the previous record holder, The Mummy. Oh, no. Records were broken. Oh, 2017 to The Mummy. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:37 No, original Mummy, I think you'll find it very well. And I know you might be like, are you referring to the original black one? No, never. I'm never talking about that movie. Anyways, we've done it. We did all the Predator movies that haven't been bought by Disney.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So true. Weren't made by Disney or whatever. Now they all are. Yeah. Now they all say made by Disney on them. 1997's Predator made by Walt Disney. He puts down his cigarette and he made the Predator 1987.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Forever innovating even in depth. That's right. Yeah. Well, and if you like this, here's a hint towards the next video. Oh, what is it? I can't remember. But you can see that early at Big Sandwich.com.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Did you know that? I did know that, yeah. It's our subscription service. There's early videos. We do movie commentaries. We did one on Prey. The first Disney Predator movie. That's right.
Starting point is 00:26:21 We've got one on the original Predator. We did a full play-through of the Alien versus Predator video game, the arcade. We've looked at a couple Predator comic books. Probably Batman versus Predator. That's on the main channel, actually. You can look at for free. That's available and animated. All right.
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Starting point is 00:26:49 It helps keep it sponsorship free and all of that. But we do take sponsorship. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just not on this video. Maybe this video. Yeah, well, maybe we'll slip one in. Slip a few in, yeah. We also have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Of course, we did an episode on Predator Badlands. That's right. And thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence. the edit. They did a lot of blurring of people's heads being exploded. And they made that CGI AI Dutch who said we did a good job. Here it is again. I thought you were against
Starting point is 00:27:19 AI. Oh, you're for it now. I'm for it now. Because you're invested money in it. And I knew that once I learned it could make an AI Dutch telling me I did a good job. I'm so proud of you. Everything's going to be alright, isn't it? Yeah. All right, thanks everyone. Grabbed out, Jeremy, guys. We'll see you next week.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Bye. What is next week, actually? This is for the bonus papal. Oh, bonus fable. Yeah, bonus people. It just says they should all go to hell. Wow. Did you put that in? Yeah. Oh, no, I wrote that in too. We both put it in, two separate notes. Oh, we might be doing some musicals. Maybe. I don't know. I still have to figure that out. Bye, everyone. Bye and God bless you. Bye.

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