The Weekly Planet - Thor: The Dark World (Extended) - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Thor: The Dark World was an inevitability, off the moderate success of the first film in 2011 and The Avengers in 2012 it made sense to reteam Chris Harmsworth's God Of Thunder, Tom Hiddleston's Loki and a reluctant Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. This time it's Dark Elves! And multiple dimensions sort of! And a red swirling blood tornado! Thanks for listening to our Caravan Of Garbage review.SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/a21pPgQqWwgHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome to Caravan of Garbage, etc. and so forth. Now, Mason, for Love and Thunder... Oh, you've got a lot to say, apparently. Look, I think I'm going to come in hot at the top and then we'll trail off towards the middle and back end. unless i just keep chipping at you here and all your enthusiasm gets yes slowly drained away in which case we'll be coming in slow and cold so this is caravan of garbage i'll leave a like if you could this week for the dark thor uh he's back he's got his own long hair this time it's not a wig mason interesting goodness. He's got his own eyebrows, too. He's got his own eyebrows, thank goodness.

So, I just wanted to quickly mention, so Thor Love and Thunder, I guess, has been credited, hailed as the first Thor movie to have a bare ass in it. Oh, I see. That's not the case. There's a bare ass in this, Mason. You better believe it. Stellan Skarsgård, sure it's pixelated, but does this not

count? Is this not cinema? It is absolutely cinema. Some sort of Swedish man's butt in a real kind of cold, sad situation. That's cinema. That's cinema, baby. Just depression and cold Swedish man's butts. Oh, you're not wrong. Erik Selvig is like the psychiatrist character from the Terminator franchise.

They just keep visiting trauma upon him over and over again. It's messed him up. I'd forgotten that this came after the Avengers. So going into this, I was like, what happened to this guy? Oh, no, Loki broke his brain. Yeah, it's PTSD is what's happening here. The previous movie. Which is funny.

That is funny. Love seeing a butt anyways producer kevin feige he described this movie in 2013 as the worst one we've ever done he said no no everyone's going to agree it's going to be at the bottom of everybody's list now and forever more he said it was the star wars episode 5 of the empire strikes back of marvel's Thor saga. Did he say that whole thing? I guess so. Just in case people didn't know what Empire Strikes Back was.

He's a big egghead, mate. Of course he'd use the full title, wouldn't he? He probably has the original VHS that has the original Emperor in it. That was like an old woman with monkey eyes voiced by Clive Revell. Yes, I know that off the top of my head. That's the kind of knowledge I bring. You've got knowledge. Anyways, this is how we got here.

Oh, I wanted to ask, do you think that's the case? Do you think that's what this is? The worst one? Yeah. No. Like, I think maybe I said last week, I think people have got to put a movie on the bottom. I agree.

Of their ranking, because everything's got to be ranked on the internet. And I think people are just like, I vaguely remember that one, and it's not Endgame, so I'm putting it at the bottom. Yeah, absolutely. But the answer's Eternals is the worst.

Does that include all the televisual shows? Let's not get into it. Okay. Or you can get into it, go on. Does it include all the TV shows? Yeah. Okay, great. So one thing I liked about this, this is pre-Grey Fog MCU.

It sure is. Which I appreciate. It's got big, like, Masters of the Universe vibes. It absolutely does. Asgard is... Huge sets. Huge real sets. Yeah, yeah.

They visit, you know, all those rocks that they stacked up. What's it called? Rock Townsville. Yeah, Rock Townsville. Yeah. Look, I know a lot about Star Wars. I'm home of Australia's famous Rock Townsville Country Music Festival. That's right. Do you mean Stonehenge?

Yes, that's the one. Okay. How could you not pull Stonehenge? Because I had to use the Clive Revel thing. I used all my brain power earlier. That's probably true, yeah. You know, there's like... If I could have got it. Yeah, you probably would have. So there's all like ornate floors and pillars that they built. You know, that big crashed alien spaceship, like the elf spaceship

that's in Asgard. Like, that's for real. The mere fact that we can say elf spaceship, like the elf spaceship that's in Asgard. Like, that's for real. The mere fact that we can say elf spaceship, I think, elevates that at some level, I think. Just the idea of, you know, this techno-magical world. Asgard's got, you know, just these beautiful spires that also have laser turrets on them. Oh, my goodness. It's great. I love it.

This was also the era where, and they threw this away pretty quickly, all the weapons have, like, an electric sheen to them, like it's that glowing sword from Lord of the Rings. Yeah. I don't like that. I'm glad they got rid of it. But, you know, they went to Iceland and they're like, look at this big black field we're standing in.

What do you think we're going to film it here? Loki's going to die here. He's not really dead. No, I like this. That's the voice of Alan Taylor, director of this movie. That's correct. We're going to fill it right here. You don't even know what we're going to do.

Look at this dirty ground. But I think, you know, there was a lot of like cleanliness to the first movie and this like throws a lot of that away. Anyway, I just want to quickly talk about how we got here because producer Kevin Feige said it was The Empire Strikes Back, etc. But Patty Jenkins actually came on board this in

2011. She dropped out in late 2011 due to creative differences. So Alan Taylor was then brought on board, who's done a lot of work in TV, including The Sopranos and Game of Thrones. But he was unhappy with how this movie turned out. Although he received full creative freedom whilst the movie be shot, Mason, he said that it was locked out of the editing suite.

How dramatic. I know. Who did the editing suite. Oh, dramatic. I know. Who did the editing? Nobody. Feige did it. Whoa. An algorithm they've trained on all the previous Marvel movies? Yeah, all four of them or whatever they've done before.

Yeah, it wouldn't be that many at the time. That's why it is, you know, has a slight point of difference from the previous ones, I think. These days, you've got that AI to do it. Yeah, that's right. a slight point of difference from the previous ones, I think. These days,

you've got that AI to do it. Yeah, that's right. And the studio turned it into a different movie during post-production. He hoped this was a situation that he never had to repeat and doesn't wish it upon

anybody else. And then, of course, he made Terminator Genisys and that's a whole other story for a whole nother day, Mason. Oh, not for us, though. No. Let's not watch Terminator Genisys

ever again. Is Korg small? Is Korg small? Is Korg small? How small is Korg? He seems small. He seems a little bit... Maybe he's the runt of the litter in terms of that particular rock being race. Cronin's Mason.

Maybe the reason that he didn't get his revolution off the ground was not that he didn't print enough flyers. Yeah. It's that he was little and people didn't respect him. That might be it, yeah. Or he's annoying. Yeah, or he's annoying. I mean, that one is huge.

Maybe that guy's the giant one, though. Yeah, maybe he is. Maybe he's one of those ones where he walks into a room and people go, oh, jeez, you're tall. You're tall, bro. That must be fun, being a really tall guy. It's good to not be a really tall guy. Hey, did you know. You're tall, bro. That must be fun, being a really tall guy. It's good to not be a really tall guy.

Hey, did you know you're really tall, bro? What's it like being so tall? They're all canonically New Zealand. Yeah, of course they are. They'd have to be. Speaking of New Zealand, Chris O'Dowd's not from New Zealand, but he is in this movie, Mason. It's very true.

What a smooth transition you've done there. Thank you. Why is he some guy called Richard Madison? As opposed to his character from the IT crowd or the IT crowd. I would have made him Donald Blake. Right. Sure, sure, sure. Okay. Right?

Dye his eyebrows. Okay. Give him a stick to hold. Right, because then he would, of course, be Jane Foster's ex-boyfriend. Yeah, that's right. There would be some more dramatic tension there, I guess. Yeah, maybe. He's just some guy.

If you're going to get someone like that, can you do something with him? Is it a date and then he has a phone call? Could he be Kristen Wiig's ex-boyfriend from that movie where they get together? What movie is that again? Ridesmaids. Definitely. 100%. Was that movie out at the time? Probably not.

Probably not, but let's say it was. We're changing the timeline. The Chris Dowd Extended Universe. And then he gets into movie producing and the time? Probably not. Probably not, but let's say it was. We're changing the timeline. The Chris Dowd Extended Universe. And then he gets into movie producing and crime. Get shorty. The Dowdiverse. The Dowdiverse, yeah. Into the Dowdiverse. Anyways, speaking of New Zealand, Dark Elves, Mason.

These segues are incredible. They look like something from A Lord of the Rings, right? Yeah. It's interesting that they only really did make up for two of them, like the two main ones. Everyone else is just wearing a blank mask. Yes. I guess it's easier to do.

It's hockey season in the world of the Dark Elves. Oh, wonderful. Every 5,000 years or whenever they wake up or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and they're all goalies, which explains the... Oh, that makes a lot of sense, actually. So do you know, actually... That's why the games take 5,000 years. Okay, sure.

So originally, one of the ideas was that Jane Foster, who does some things in this movie... Was to do no things. Well, she was actually going to turn into a villain. This was going to happen because of the ether, of course, and she was going to destroy Svartflindhelm as a show of power before going to Earth. And then, of course, they thought,

let's keep the focus on Malekith and not introduce this third villain. What keep the focus on Malekith and not introduce this third villain. What do you think of Malekith though? He's there isn't he? He's there.

He's undeniably there most of the time sometimes. And whenever he's not on screen people are all going where's Malekith? Where's Malekith or

Mal's I call him. Where's Mally? My old pal Mally. He's just so compelling. Yeah look I like the idea of like an evil. He's so compelling, Keith, is what they say. I love the idea of like an evil.

That's what my T-shirt says right now. I love it. Thank you for getting it printed. But I love the idea of like a race of evil dark elves. That's a great idea. And as we'll talk about towards the end, like Christopher Eccleston was like, I hate this. This sucks. Well, of course, as we'll talk about towards the end, Christopher Eccleston was like, I hate this. This sucks.

Well, of course, as we've mentioned, this is part of Christopher Eccleston's United States tour. He got some juice from Doctor Who and he went and he did a series of films in the US that he hated exclusively. The Seeker, G.I. Joe, this, a fourth option. Definitely. Yeah. Just fielding Doctor Who calls.

Does that count? Yes, I think it does. Constantly calling him. He's like, I'm not doing it. I'm not fielding Doctor Who calls. Does that count? Yes, I think it does. Constantly calling him. He's like, I'm not doing it. I'm not putting a leather jacket on. I'm a gentleman. Here's something, though. I'm ready.

Chris Evans comes back. Sure does, yes. This completely blindsided me when I saw this movie at the time. I was like, oh, my God. And he's barely in it. It's nothing. It's like a throwaway joke. And yet you have never recovered from that every

day you bring it up i think it's one of the better cameos but it's also in an era where it was surprising to see something like that yeah like now i see like the equivalent of that in the modern day i'm like more not enough cameos that's right oh it's kingo well as we expected i mean king goes in everything now yeah but that of, and apparently it was, Tom Hiddleston did it first in the Captain America costume and then Chris Evans copied him doing it. And that comes across. It's good.

And he's wearing the costume that he wore in the Avengers 2012. You know, it all makes sense. And I like it and I love it. But what else I love, Mason, is the twists and turns that one Loki long last name brings to this. So Tom Hiddleston actually wasn't going to be in this movie at all. That would have a real gap in the old script there. Well, actually, there was going to be a greater focus on Malekith and the Dark Elves.

But of course, after the Avengers and everyone loves Loki, etc., they wrote him in. And they thought, how do we bring him and Thor together? Because as a character, he's so compelling, Keith. He is, isn't he? That's what your t-shirt says. That's right. But, you know, and they got them to work together because, of course, their mother gets murdered.

Rene Russo gets a nice little fight scene, by the way. That's some good stuff. Big fan of that. But, yeah, you know, the morally ambiguous Loki, it's still fun to see, even though this is, you know, nearly a decade old. It's nice to be like, oh, what's this guy going to do? He's a lunatic, but he doesn't have that glowing box, which is maybe influencing, or the stick, whatever the thing was influencing him, Mason. The box and the stick.

The box and the stick. I think it was mostly the stick. Because I remember, again, when I saw this movie and, you know, he takes off Thor's hand at the wrist. You really believe he was going to do it or he would do it? For a second I'm like, oh, they're going to do like, I don't know. Was the destroyer arm, was that a thing at this point? Maybe it wasn't. True, 2013.

Let's change the timeline, it was. Okay, terrific. I mean, I think that could have been something, but it's so quickly resolved and he's like, oh, no, that didn't really happen. And then when he dies, it's very heavily hinted at that he's alive well before the end of the movie. I think that's kind of a mistake to kind of throw that in

pretty much after his death, you know. But what about you? What are your thoughts? I think it was good and great. And I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there. I think it's cool to never leave any questions because then people will always be asking questions. That's true.

And I think Kevin Feige knew that. He saw ahead of time and he's like, if I don't tell people Loki's back, people are going to ask me when Loki's coming back. Yeah, well, that's true. But he disappeared for a while. I don't think he was in anything until Ragnarok. So that's like a four-year gap.

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That's crazy. Crazy, right? Yeah. I like the end fight. Go on. Different portals and such. Yes. I think when presented with that now, I'd be like, these aren't enough universes to visit.

Oh, sure. Yeah, right. Three universes. For sure. One of them's like a floor full of dirt. One's like a forest. A bit of space. And then back in England.

Yuck. Come on. The dreariest universe of them all. Sure. But you see things like when Thor is taken somewhere else, his hammer immediately goes to fight him. It's off into space. He has to catch the tube, which is something.

Like a loyal dog, it follows him. Yeah, that's right. Which makes it all the more sad when it's crushed into powder and Thor Ragnarok. It should have made some whimpering noises. I think so. Just one squirt of blood. I think that's pretty like, I think it's, you know, a pretty solid fight scene at the end. And I remember, you know, the episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. that came after where they went

they broke all the windows in this library or whatever. Oh. Do you remember that? I don't remember that, no. Yeah, it's good stuff. Why do you think, though, the weird blood tornado never took off in the same way that the laser sky beam did? That's a great question. What is it about a man losing his limbs with blood spraying out of the stumps? And he's going, I've got all the power. And he's like, it's swirling around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can't that be a new, why can't that be something? That's a really good question. Why didn't it happen at the end of Obi-Wan Kenobi? Darth Vader was like, now I've got all the power, and all the blood is just spraying out of him, spinning in a big force circle. Well, again, I think it's because that's a little bit less ambiguous,

you know what I mean? Like if you see somebody torn to absolute shreds, just their lifeblood just bursting forth from them, you know they're dead for sure. But a sky beam, what can that... Maybe they're being disintegrated. Maybe they're being sent to another dimension. Maybe they're going through time.

You know what? There's more options with a sky beam. You know what I mean? That's a great point, actually. That's one of Feige's guiding principles of the Marvel Universe. A lot of options with a sky beam. Baby. Yeah, I agree.

I'd love to see him in an interview and someone asks him a really poignant question about the future of the MCU. He takes off his baseball cap and just a beam shoots out the top of his head into the sky. And he's like, these are all the answers you seek. Everyone's like, wow, that's pretty good. Don't you think that would be something? Yes.

And I like their reaction there. This is pretty good. And he's like, man, this is my best stuff, actually. But, of course, this has my best stuff actually. But of course this has a post credits hinting that this is an infinity stone and so on and so forth. Or they actually say it. They should have called it infinity stuff.

Yeah, infinity stuff. Because it's an ether, it's not a stone, is it? They should have said the various infinity goops. And then they could have tied Gwyneth Paltrow to it? Right? Yeah. They should have said the various infinity goops, you know, and then they could have tied Gwyneth Paltrow to it. That's true. Do you see it turn into a stone?

No. Because I feel like when it's collected in a later movie, it's already in the stone, right? Well, it's in that little box they give the collector. Yeah, but that's not a little stone you put into a glove. Okay, but maybe you have to put it in a fridge for a while. Yeah, okay. In an ice cube tray. In the ice cube tray, exactly, yes. Yeah, but that's not a little stone you put into a glove. Okay, but maybe you have to put it in a fridge for a while. Yeah, okay. In an ice cube tray.

In the ice cube tray, exactly, yes. Okay, that makes sense. Now, I think I said this at the time after saying it. Maybe to you, maybe on our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out every Monday, including the episode we're doing on Thor, Love and Thunder, Mason. Whoa. Were we podcasting at this point?

We were podcasting in 2013. Yeah, I think we were. Okay. Anyways, do you... I bet this turns out to be false and it's very embarrassing for us. I'm 2013. Yeah, I think we were. Okay. Anyways, do you... I bet this turns out to be false and it's very embarrassing for us. I'm changing the timeline, Mason. Terrific.

But are the Asgardians respected? Are they like the Amish of the universe? They're like, well, we only use magic, even though it's not really magic and whatever. And they turn up to the collector's house and he's got a big cape on or whatever and there's a weird thing in a jar and they're in their big ornate armour

and they're like, please take care of this good sir. Well, the collector does give them a big bow but it's so big that it seems a little bit sarcastic now that I think about it, yeah. How do you think the universe sees these people? Just dirty hippies, probably. They think they're right up the top there with all their royal stuff

and their pomp and circumstance, but they're like, look at these grubs. Look at these absolute grubs coming. They're the Byron Bays of the universe, wouldn't you say? Hey, see the two-faced guardians? They've come in here just watching in case they take something before they leave. Keep an eye on them, check their bags on the way out. Yeah. Probably take a weird

crystal or something. Yeah. Hear something though. I'm ready to hear something. Now normally I'll do a green trivia and don't get me wrong I'll do a green trivia today

but I want to put this in before. This section is called Almost everyone in this movie hates it or forgot they were in it. Trivia. Oh no. Got a bunch of quotes here.

This is from Christopher Eccleston who says he hated playing Malekith and did it for money. It took six to eight hours to apply his makeup, which he says Marvel lied to him about. And, you know, it gets to the point in the movie where half his face is also messed up. So that's a whole other level of makeup to do.

And he's got, like, big old radar dishes, and then you've got to put the big elf ears on top of that. That can't be comfortable, you know? He's probably there in the make-up chair being like, boy, I wish I was still playing Destro at this point. Wish I hadn't given up playing Destro, which was maybe before this, but also maybe after this. Maybe I'm dreaming of being Destro soon in the future.

Natalie Portman was rumoured to want to leave this project after Patty Jenkins left, but she couldn't due to being contractually obligated. And I guess that's why she mostly disappeared until more recently. Yes, she is in Endgame, but I think they recorded some new dialogue and then they used scrapped footage for that. Right, okay, yeah, yeah. Zachary Levi, who plays Fandral, he was, of course,

cast as Fandral in the first movie, couldn't do it, so he came back for this one. And he says, to be honest, I had seen the first one and I didn't really feel like the Warriors 3 were used all that well. So I was like, hey, are you going to actually use these folks? And they said, oh, no, we're going to use the Warriors three a lot in Thor the Dark World. A lot. Yeah, you're going to be busy. And I was like, okay. So I signed up. But then he said, I didn't have much to do, you know, and really nothing to do in the third one.

And that is true. He is right. Yeah. But of course he's playing a different character now. Chuck, I'm changing the timeline, Mason. Chris O'Dowd actually forgot he was in this movie when he was asked about his role in the MCU a few years back. And then when they jogged his memory, he was like, oh, you know, I do remember that. And then he was asked, do you think you survived the snap? And he's like, I don't know what that is. And so it was explained to him.

You can watch this interview, by the way, that it was explained to him, you universe, etc. and so forth. And he went, yeah, I probably survived. I don't know. Great. Idris Elba has said he disliked working on this movie as the constant reshoots were exhausting and time consuming.

And that helmet's like the biggest helmet in the MCU. It's probably super heavy. I would put a balloon in it to make it lighter, but I bet they didn't. And also, like, a lot of the time it is like head-to-toe armor. Yeah. And he's one of those actors where I go, man, Idris Elba would be great in the MCU. Oh, wait, he is in the MCU.

Exactly. He gets five lines every five movies. That's true. He even referred to working on this movie as torture. Whoa. Chris Hemsworth even said, the first one is good, the second one is meh. What masculinity.

It's on the bottom of my MCU ranking, which is Thor, Thor Ragnarok, Thor The Dark World. I've not seen any of the ones I'm not in. What masculinity was the classic archetype. it just starts to feel very familiar and another interview he said i wasn't stoked with what i'd done in thor 2 i was a little disappointed in what i'd done i don't think i grew the character in any way i don't think i showed an audience something unexpected and different and i think concerning the character of thor that's probably true yeah he's not the most interesting thing in this okay movie but you know he's doing it yeah

and he's doing a big low-key and here's a quote from stellan skarsgård it says i showed everyone my bum and i loved it makes a nice change from being sad and scandinavian i guess i bet it does sorry got to go my wife's been murdered oh he's wife's been murdered. Oh, he's in one of those My Wife Got Murdered dramas. Yeah, he's in one of those. Yeah, yeah. And I'm the detective who has to investigate. Great. Yeah.

It's really cold. I bet it is. It's time for green trivia, Mason. I'm ready. I mentioned this up top, but yeah, Chris Hemsworth grew out his hair for over a year. Whoa. To make a more authentic long hair rather than use a wig, like in previous Thors and some of the other Thors.

I think not Ragnarok because he's got short hair or whatever. It's easier to do and whatever. Elsa Pataki, who you might know as the wife of Chris Hemsworth, she actually plays Jane in that moment at the end with the last kiss. You never really see her face. Couldn't get Natalie Portman, so they were just like, he can kiss his wife. And I think that's nice.

And I'll just end on this Mason go on before we do box office like all MCU phase 2 movies somebody loses an arm or a hand or something which is a homage

to the Empire Strikes Back now in a similar bit of Star Wars trivia did you know the original Star Wars had the working title of Blue Harvest I didn't know that

that's fascinating yeah so that's some good stuff to kind of that's a good piece of trivia of pull that out of it. That's a good piece of trivia to end on. Yeah, if you're in a pub, you're in a pub. Yeah, or at a pub quiz. Everything's riding on it.

That's the last question. Yep. Trust us. Bang, bang. Star Wars Blue Harvest. You got it. You won that meat platter. That's right.

Box office mason. On a budget of between $150 to $170 million, those things are normally on the upper end. It made $644.8 million, which is quite a bit more than the previous one. Not as much as The Avengers, obviously. But this was a growing man and a growing brand. Right? Yeah.

And look, as mentioned, yeah, it was the lowest ranked MCU movie on Rotten Tomatoes for quite a while. MCU movie on Rotten Tomatoes for quite a while. It currently sits at a fresh 66% just below The Incredible Hulk, which is something like 67-68%, which I disagree with, by the way. Excuse me. I mean, Rotten Tomatoes

is also an aggregate. It doesn't really work like that. That's very true, yes. You can't just say I disagree with that because it's a collection of thoughts and feelings of people who have seen the movies. You have to disagree with everybody's individual ratings, and then you have to offer to fight them all. Yeah. On Twitter and then real life.

Now, are you saying that you think The Incredible Hulk's better than that? No. Worse. Yeah, worse than this, I think. Anyway, that being said, I haven't seen The Incredible Hulk since the year 2003. That's right, I'm changing the timeline. But, of course, it is now far above the lowest ranked MCU movie, which is The Eternals, coming in at 47%.

Wow. We've talked about two Thor movies, and if only there were more to talk about in Caravan of Garbage, but I feel like grouping these two together is a good way to do it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to know what we're doing next week though, Mason? Yeah.

Here's a hint. Now we have to squeeze in two before we go on break. Okay. I'm thinking we do. And we're getting a new Predator thing. Okay. We can't do all the Predator movies. Right, right, right. What if we did the Alien versus Predator movies? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I bet everyone's excited for that. And look, you can actually see it early if you head over to BigSandwich.co where there's a bunch of early videos and bonus exclusive podcasts, including plus movie commentaries. Our podcast, The Weekly Planet, as mentioned, that goes up there on Sunday as opposed to Monday. It's just a great place if you like.

I would like to support these cackling idiots. Sure. Where could I give them money? This is a good place for that. I think so. Yeah, huge back catalogue. Anyways, I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I'm at WikipediaBrand on Twitter.

Thank you so much, Lawrence, for the edit. Thank you, Lawrence. Thank you so much, Ben, for the edit. Thank you, Ben. I think it's Lawrence, but we do both. Just in case, you know what I mean? And we'll see you guys another time. Grab that gem, you guys.

Or that goop, if you wish. Or that big pile of goop. Grab the goop. Grab that goop. Yeah. We'll see you next time. Bye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.

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