The Weekly Planet - Transformers 2007 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 16, 2020

Do ya'll remember the excitement felt when we Transformers 2007 hit cinemas. Finally a full on live action version of the beloved 1980s animated series. A star making turn for Shia Labeouf and Megan ...Fox it reintroduces the world to Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Jazz, Megatron, Starscreem and other grey to brown Decepticons. This is our Caravan Of Garbage review. Thanks for the support.Help support the show and get early episodes at https://bigsandwich.co/SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/O0KYzeqUurkJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies#Transformers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 of course beginning with transformers 2007 and if people could leave a like that would be fantastic but before we get into the movie itself i just want to get a little bit of background on your love for the transformers franchise mason. Mine is undisputed. I'm the biggest fan in the world. Oh, my goodness. I don't have to prove my credentials. Wow. Look, growing up, I loved Transformers.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I know it was just the cartoon was just a... It was a cartoon? Yeah, that's true. I don't think so. I mean, it was a 30-minute ad. Maybe that's what you're thinking of for Transformers toys. But I love the Transformers toys. And, you know, some of them design-wise,
Starting point is 00:01:25 some were kind of cheap and tacky, but some were like design-wise just incredible. And I got as many as I could. But the one that I probably love the most, and I still have a few laying around my house, is Optimus Prime. You know, because the leader of the Transformers, because he's obviously, you know, strong and brave,
Starting point is 00:01:42 but he's also selfless and he's caring and he's compassionate. Sometimes he's dead. Most importantly of all, he's a bright red mid-1970s cab over engine whites freightliner. Obviously. Because the only true mark of a real hero is you've got to have a signature look. So true. And for years
Starting point is 00:01:58 as I was growing up, I remember people would be like, there's a live action Transformers in the works. So exciting, right? Technologically, like we're there now. Exactly. And every time I'm like, there's a live-action Transformers in the works. So exciting, right? Technologically, we're there now. Exactly, and every time I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to get to see Optimus Prime on the big screen. And then I remember... He's going to wave to me, Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:02:12 When I went into the cinemas, and I remember he first rolls up into that screen, and I remember the entire audience stood up as one, and they went, oh my God, a Peterbilt 379. Are you kidding me? Actually, that's not true. That didn't actually happen. But at the same time, I can tell you within my heart and soul that if Optimus Prime in the movies looked like Optimus Prime in the cartoons,
Starting point is 00:02:36 I would forgive all the nonsense. I would watch the 15 hours of Transformers movies, whatever it is, and I would... I mean, there are nods to it in other films and whatever. I would forgive, you know, the majority main characters that are just screaming lunatics. I would forgive the fact that all the Decepticons look exactly the same. I would forgive the fact that you can't tell what's happening
Starting point is 00:02:58 in any of the action sequences because everything is happening all the time. I would argue a lot of those issues are lessened in this first movie. Oh, yeah, for sure. This is very watchable. It's pretty watchable. But again, I forgive all those if Optimus Prime looked like he did in the cartoon, but he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He looks like a monster energy drink is what he looks like. What about if they made Megatron change into a little handgun? Oh, speaking of that as well, I don't know if you remember there was a teaser trailer for this movie that came out before. The one on Mars? I think it's on the moon. I think it's Mars. I think it's a Mars rover.
Starting point is 00:03:29 It's a Mars rover and it's surveying the landscape with its camera and then you see it's knocked over and then the silhouette is very obviously Generation 1 Megatron, like the one that does turn into a gun. But in this, what is he? He's a weird rusty skeleton. Well, they did change his look a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:44 due to some fan outcry. They changed the face. But I don't think it's any closer to the look. You can't deny how great the special effects are in this movie. Oh, for sure, yeah. From a technical perspective. Yeah, I do want to get into the design elements of this film that I don't love as much. But yeah, it is an absolute technical marvel, which hadn't really been seen at the time.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And one of the first things I noticed about re-watching this for the first time in years, because these movies are exhausting and I try to stay away from them, is that the sound design is amazing. It's so, like the clinking and the clanking and the way that they work in the original sounds from the 80s TV show and all those kinds of things. But there's also so much of it. There's never a quiet moment in this movie. But I think that's something that kind of isn't so bad in this one.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I think, like, when... Also, in the tradition of the Transformers movies, I'm going to keep yelling over the top of you. But you know that idea with... At the start, when that helicopter rolls in, and they're like, what kind of helicopter is this? That's a great action sequence. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And when it transforms and you get that original sound, it just starts mowing people down. It's so good. Yeah. And the blades the blades are like just kind of dangling off the back and it's it's just it just looks amazing if only the rest of the movie were like that yeah but it's not it's not no and i also like some of the little changes that they made like they've got a little holographic pilot or driver in in the vehicles you know what i mean yeah i'm sure that's something that's probably happened in various incarnations. Sometimes it's a hologram.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Sometimes it's like a pop-up, like a crash dummy man that comes out of the seat. Like from Men in Black 3, that movie, I don't think you've seen. No. Might have been too. I guess we can talk human characters because that is the majority of this film. So Shia LaBeouf is a teenage boy. He's as golden as the day is long. He just wants a car and a girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:05:26 and he just wants to, I don't know, he needs to tone his anxiety down by about 20. Why have you opened by talking about the sidekick and not the main character, Megan Fox as Michaela Baines? It is kind of baffling that she's not the main character. She is. She's capable and skilled, and she's got a character arc and a backstory
Starting point is 00:05:45 that is something because she had her dad in prison and that's how she learned her skills. She's fitter, I think. She's definitely fitter. She makes the choice at the end to be like, we're going back into the battle kind of thing. The movie should be called Michaela Baines and her sweaty flailing sidekick.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Well, there's the thing about a lot of these Transformer movies and Bubble Bee is's the thing about a lot of these Transformer movies, and Bubble Bee is the exception also to a lot of what we're talking about. Including the Optimus Prime problem that you have. But there's three main characters in these movies.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's stoic military guy. There's stuttering insufferable idiot. And that's a lot of people. And then there's chicks. That's kind of the breakdown. You know what I mean? And I feel like in a lot of situations, maybe michael bay wanted you know chicks to be the main character but he felt like well it's a movie about cars and it's about guns and shooting or whatever so boys loves transformers
Starting point is 00:06:35 and and and people won't be able to accept that so i'll just i'll just shunt her off to the side yeah and then i'll just make some idiot the main character and eventually like she does leave the series which we will talk about in later movies, the story behind that. But on the whole, I still find this one, there's a bit too much going on in it. It's too long, I feel, for the things going on. And yet, aside from Bumblebee,
Starting point is 00:06:57 it's the shortest of the Transformers movies. Baffling. Right? Because you've got the Scorpion chases Tad Hamilton and his friends through the desert, which, by the way, I think would make a great movie by itself, being stalked by Decepticons through the desert, like pitch black-esque. Like Predator style.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, exactly. You've got kind of Shia LaBeouf dicking around looking for glasses and trying to grift people for money and whatever, and getting wrapped up in this plot. And being pursued by John Turturro. The toots. The toots. The toots. And then you've got kind of boring government hacking satellite crap
Starting point is 00:07:31 where you're just looking at feeds of signals and shots of planes taking off and flying through the air and mainframes and all this kind of shit. There's like sweeping shots of the military, which is just, it's not, like, take that out, please. Oh, 100%. Of those three, that one should go. But here's the thing, which is just, it's not, like, take that out, please. Oh, 100%. Of those three, that one should go. But here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It can't go because Michael Bay gets all his military equipment for free if he does some military promotion. Well, that's right. Exactly. But you can't get rid of the cars because you get free. Apparently, they've got 200 free cars in this movie from General Motors. Yeah, that's exactly it. And they trashed a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Speaking of the military, though, if people were worried, it actually cost the taxpayers nothing because, like you said, anything that's not considered an army drill, which they use for this movie, he pays for all the ammunition and the explosions and all the fuel and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah. So if you're thinking your US tax dollars are going to waste, I mean, they are, but just not for this.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Sure. Big government, you know? Oh, yeah. You've got to believe it. Oh, that's tax dollars are going to waste, I mean, they are, but just not for this. Big government, you know? Oh, yeah, you better believe it. Oh, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, so Bumblebee, obviously, in the cartoons, he was always a Volkswagen. In this, he's a Camaro. I saw an interview with Michael Bayer where he's like, he will never be a bug.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It'll look like Herbie the Love Bug. I'll shoot myself before I make him a bug. I was just going to say Herbie. Like, who remembers Herbie? Nobody. Well, when was Herbie the Lovebug. I'll shoot myself before I make him a bug. I was just going to say Herbie. Like, who remembers Herbie? Nobody. Well, when was Herbie fully loaded? Maybe it was the previous year. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But, like, that's not the reason. It's the reason his General Motors gave you all the free cars. Yeah, absolutely. And the reason that was given for Optimus Prime not looking like he did in the cartoons is because apparently they wanted to make Optimus Prime the largest and most imposing Autobot. Yes. 10,108 moving parts.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh my goodness, that's too many. And the reason that he couldn't transform into the cartoon classic model is because that would mean the robot version of him was too small, so they needed a bigger truck. And he was apparently on record as saying, we're not going to do anything dumb like size changing in this movie. Which makes a lot of sense, except when you consider that the whole plot device of this movie
Starting point is 00:09:31 is like a cube the size of a house that shrinks down to the size of a flailing man. Of an American football. Exactly. So you can get a touchdown for America. And even then, maybe if you're like, well, the plot device can shrink, but nothing else can shrink. Put his legs in the trailer then.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Again, which you didn't give him. I will never give up on this. You could have made him 100 feet tall with that trailer. Right? Well, it's funny you should mention that because they wanted to make him bigger, and this was the difference. If they did the original design, he would have been 20 feet tall. With the changed design, he was 22 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Worth it. You really feel it, don't you? Worth it to turn him into a Guy Fieri truck. Absolutely. You're 100% right. Who, by the way, he does a lot of great charity work. Seems like a very nice man. Gets a lot of flack.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah. Hopefully he's not cancelled the week that this goes out. But as of recording, cool. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just, these designs, and again, this is a problem later on because they're much harder to distinguish,
Starting point is 00:10:25 with their spindly crab faces and they're just grey. I'm talking about Decepticons specifically. They're just grey monsters just kind of jaggedly running about. And it's difficult to determine in any given action sequence which ones have been destroyed, which ones are still left, where they are on the battlefield, because they all look the same and they can all turn into anything. Which is a difference from the cartoon
Starting point is 00:10:46 where every Transformer was assigned a specific vehicle mode and they couldn't change out of that vehicle mode. Yeah. Whereas in this, if a Decepticon wants to be a tank and then become a police car and then become a helicopter, they can just do it. So oftentimes you're like, did that guy die or is he... A different guy.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It's a different guy. It's also confusing with the merch as well and also the names of the characters in this because they use some of the constructor cons but then devastated turns up in the next movie and those get destroyed in this also apparently that fighter jet which is taking out the fighter jets above the city you know that's a pretty amazing sequence it might not be star scream it might be just somebody else that's also behind the scenes stuff note here this is a little behind-the-scenes little thing. It says, and it's pretty simple, so you'll be able to keep up.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Okay. Soundwave was going to appear in the film disguised as an MH-53 Pavelo helicopter. Later, the copter was renamed Blackout. And then Soundwave was going to be a Selene Mustang automobile. However, the Hasbro company requested that a music player, Soundwave's original alternate mode from the Transformers cartoon, be in the film, so the Selene was renamed Barricade, and the music player robot appeared as Barricade's partner.
Starting point is 00:11:51 However, the writers felt the role did not give Soundwave justice, so they renamed the music player Frenzy after Soundwave's minion. Soundwave himself would appear in the next two films. He's the satellite or whatever. Yeah, he's the satellite guy, maybe. I don't know. He's got the best voice. He's got a great design. Speaking of voices, Peter Cullen don't know. He's got the best voice. He's got a great design. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Speaking of voices. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Peter Cullen's back. Yes. And that's terrific. There is one other original voice actor that appears. And it's not Megatron. No. Talk about that. But it's Charlie Adler.
Starting point is 00:12:14 He voices Starscream in this. And he does various other voices from the 80s. They went to Frank Welker initially, but he... As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
Starting point is 00:12:55 FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. I thought the voice wasn't menacing enough so then they switched to Hugo Weaving and before Peter Cullen they were thinking of also Liam Neeson Oh my goodness Yeah, which I think would have worked in a version like this I have a very particular set of skills I can turn into a truck
Starting point is 00:13:18 I feel Cullen gets some bad lines to say in this Push the cube in my chest! He says that as an example. He didn't even tell Shia LaBeouf to push it into Megatron's chest to kill him. Like, what if it gave him more power or something? You're right. Yeah. Just quickly on the Liam Neeson thing,
Starting point is 00:13:35 they worked in some Liam Neeson-esque mannerisms into Optimus Prime. Because, you know, Liam Neeson's is 100 foot tall, or 22 feet tall in real life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We should talk about the work, though, that ILM and Digital Domain did for these movies. Because movies because i mean full credit also to the onset stuff that they do because so much of the pyrotechnics and the tearing down of buildings and the bit where the bus splits
Starting point is 00:13:56 in two and one of the transformers flies through it that's practical stuff yeah they rigged a bus to tear in half and then they obviously added the transformer later using digital effects. My goodness. Digital effects. I just think the merging of real-life stuff and CGI, it's incredible. Really.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I feel like this one, this movie gave the visual effects enough time to shine in this, whereas we actually see a helicopter turn into a robot in a solid amount of time. You can really sort of luxuriate in it. Whereas in the later movies, they just... Spinning cubes? There's a lot of spinning cubes. There's a huge amount of Transformers transforming off screen.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah. There's a portent for things to come earlier in this movie where Bumblebee's first transformation on Earth is off camera. Right, okay, yeah. You get some more in later. That's expensive. Yeah. There's a portent for things to come earlier in this movie where Bumblebee's first transformation on Earth is off camera. Right, okay. You get some more in later. That's expensive. Yeah. Well, that's not what you want to waste money on
Starting point is 00:14:52 in a Transformers movie, transforming effects. No, you're probably right. One thing that I just think drags way too long on in this movie, it's like the extended hijinks and gags that go on. And I think a perfect example of that is where shia labeouf comes home and he's going to be grounded because he's three minutes late and the autobots are kind of stumbling around the backyard and they're like are you masturbating shia labeouf and he's like oh mom and optimus pride is outside like a dog's pissing on someone
Starting point is 00:15:17 they're pushing lamps over yeah there is one You've been doing this for millions of years, Autobots. You've been fighting a war against the Decepticons for millions of years, and your whole deal is that you have this ultimate camouflage. You've been designed and then evolved into this perfect system, and you're like, should we transform into the very common vehicles on this planet and park where they would normally be? No.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Let's just play hide-and- and seek against a wall in robot form. In full view of street lamps. Why not? We're absolute dumbasses. Yeah, it's like a Three Stooges routine. It is. And I think the worst part of it is that it's not funny at all. Oh, I thought it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Look, whenever we criticise... Just kidding. Whenever we... That was a joke. Yes. Whenever we criticise... I learned how to do it That was a joke. Yes. Whenever we criticise... I learned how to do it from Michael Bay movies. Really?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you're not good at it. Got ya! Aww. But whenever we criticise these movies, they obviously have their defenders. Because I think a lot of these movies do well is because they have international appeal.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I think it's scenes like this where you can take it to any audience in the world and, you know, you get it. It's wacky hijinks. I think there's one joke that works in the five movies, the Michael Bay ones. I'm going to save it because it's not this week. Will it be next week?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yes, it's next week. This is very exciting. But every other joke just falls flat and it's just a stuttering idiot. Speaking of, Ben requested that he does a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Shia LaBeouf compilation. Oh, that's very exciting. We might do it weekly. Normally we make him do a very complex montage,
Starting point is 00:16:51 but he's offered up himself this week. The Stockholm Syndrome has finally kicked in and he's like, maybe I should make things difficult for myself. That's exciting. Yeah, I think the downward slide of this movie starts as soon as the Transformers start talking. Yeah, I think the downward slide of this movie starts as soon as the Transformers start talking. Yeah, maybe. And they introduce themselves with a single line
Starting point is 00:17:10 that proves that they've got a cool personality. Yeah. Yuck. Speaking of talking. I don't like personalities. I don't care for them. They should all be stoic. I agree, especially Optimus Prime.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But speaking of, though, one thing that wears thin for me incredibly quickly is Bumblebee talking through the radio. Because I know about you, and it is more of a problem in later movies, but I can't follow what he's saying easily. It's like, because it's all cut up in snippets and I'm, I just,
Starting point is 00:17:37 I don't, for the life of me, why did they keep this thing that they also fix at the end of this movie? And then bring it back. I mean, I know they explain it away again in the next movie, but there's also later again explanations for it in movies more down the line. We wanted to sell more toys. That's what they say, actual line from the movie. To their credit for the Bumblebee design,
Starting point is 00:17:56 that look, in robot form at least, has been adopted a lot of places and I think has become, for a lot of people, the definitive look of that character. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think it's a terrible design at all. I think has become, for a lot of people, the definitive look of that character. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think it's a terrible design at all. I think that face plate is quite good. I mean, those G1s are like, for me, like that's where it's at. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Could you draw any of the other ones from memory? What I could do, I could take a pile of sticks and I could spray paint them silver and then break them all up and drop them in a pile. Perfect. And that would work, wouldn't it? Nice. The Decepticon army i love it i also think it's very strange that this movie ends with the two lead characters uh megan fox and her sidekick just making out on bumblebee who's a sentient
Starting point is 00:18:37 creature oh yeah you know what i mean it'd be like at the end of oh i don't know the never-ending story they just make it out on top of the dog or whatever. Yeah, for sure. He's not like a horse where he doesn't know what's going on. And they're kissing on a horse. Sure. He knows what's going on. Because he's trying to get him a date or something.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yep. Why is he even doing any of that? There's Decepticons and stuff. Well, I think it's cool. Yeah, I guess it is cool, isn't it? My problem with this movie is... Yes on that i like it i do like it on the whole it's exhausting because of everything else i've seen as mentioned but what i don't like about this one is i'm seeing a lot of the seeds for the things that i hate in these movies that are then expanded upon in future
Starting point is 00:19:21 installments a man is peed upon by a robot yes that's right an award- A man is peed upon by a robot. Yes, that's right. An award-winning actor is peed upon by a robot. And you can't fault any of the people in these movies because, hey man, you probably get a lot of money for this. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. John Malkovich is in one of them. Patrick Dempsey's in one of them.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Is Malkovich in any Coen Brothers movies? Probably. Yeah, probably. Probably a cowboy. Also, I put the blame on this movie for, obviously, the Transformer movies that Probably. Yeah, probably. Probably a cowboy. Also, I put the blame on this movie for, obviously, the Transformer movies that follow, but then things like your Battle LA,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you know, that movie with Aaron Eckhart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, your Battleships, your G.I. Joe movies. The first one, I think, is fine from memory. Yeah. Just spinning walls of metal. That's right, exactly. I mean, and this movie does look, it looks great. It looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It's very crisp. It is. It's just crisp, but just with a wall of debris in every scene. And look, I know a lot of people give J.J. Abrams flack for using lens flares. This is Lens Flare City, mate, this one. But look, I know what you're thinking, and I know the viewers are also thinking this, right? Because often we'll put in a segment on trivia.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, yes. We've pulled back on that a little bit because if we don't name every bit of trivia, we get harassed, bearing in mind that just because we don't say a thing doesn't mean that we don't know it. Or... Disagree.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Or we think it's not interesting and we don't include it. But you might be thinking, what happened to Trent DeMarco? I'm personally thinking, who's Trent DeMarco? Is he related to Mac DeMarco? Because I love that guy. I don't know who that is, but yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Okay, so Trent DeMarco plays Megan Fox's boyfriend, who she's very in love with and sees how awful, and then all of a sudden he's like, you can't drive the car, and then she's like, I've had enough of this guy, even though the scene before she's like hugging him, and she's like, I love your big muscles muscles there's another bit that's not funny just quickly you know the bit where shia labeouf is showing his muscles yes i thought like oh he's doing a bit because she'll turn around and be like great bit shia labeouf but he's like genuinely
Starting point is 00:21:15 he's doing that thing yeah but for anyway trent de marco this is from his wikipedia page this is trent but this is the character. Yes. Okay. Trent DeMarco is the stereotypical jock. He's on the football team, brackets tight end. Don't mind if I do. Has big arms and washboard abs. Oh. Has a sweet ride, has a smoking hot girlfriend, and hates nerds. Brutal, right?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Right. This guy, he speaks to me, you know what I mean? If there's any character in this movie that I relate to the most, it's Trent DeMarco. Isn't it the Mountain Dew vending machine that comes to life? Surely that would be your point of view character. Some of that, all that spindly little creep. So skulking around, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But the character also appears in the movie Friday the 13th, the reboot in 2009, and is killed by Jason Voorhees, meaning technically that movie is set within the Transformers-averse. Oh, my God. That's right. The Transformers-averse shed universe has more connections than you may think upon first glance. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. Got any other stuff you want to say? We didn't really talk about Bernie Mac, RIP, as the great used car salesman. Then there's two good jokes, because he does a bust your head with a rock joke. I think it's his mum or grandma. I enjoyed that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And we didn't really mention Australia's own Rachel Taylor as one of the three teen hacker team, but honestly that's part of the thing you could have cut out. Replace him with one line. Sorry Australia's own Rachel Taylor, but just we arrested some hacker and they said
Starting point is 00:22:58 it could be aliens. That's it. And it was. It was aliens, right? Yeah. Anyways, we'll be back next week for Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen, a movie I've seen once but remember being excruciating. Yeah, spoiler alert, it's definitely the worst one. It's not the weirdest one. No.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But it's the worst one. Yeah, so we'll be back for that. I'm not looking forward to it, if I'm honest. I kind of am because I have not seen it since cinemas. I swore off re-watching any of these after that one so and they've dragged me back in yeah well here's the thing though that movie and we'll talk about next week it's peak michael bay in terms of power yeah it's also in the middle of the writer's strike uh-huh and it's it's it's just this perfect storm of swirling metal and lack of writing and thought put into things in this beautiful package.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I was going to say beautiful tight package, but it's not tight. It's like a real tight end. That's right. So look, subscribe and come back next week if you do want to see that because there's videos here all the goddamn time. And if you want these early, in addition to the extended versions of this, you can actually go to bigsandwich.co. We've got a service there. If you want to sign up, every week you'll get them early. And you'll love it, maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And bonus podcasts and other things. Other early videos. Movie commentaries. That's right. By us, specifically. Yes. So I don't know. Maybe we should have looked that up.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Sorry if you're expecting Michael Bay or something to just be us. He's busy. Wow. Yeah. Look at those abs. Wow. That's a tight end. All right. We'll see you guys next week for Transformers.
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Starting point is 00:24:49 It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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