The Weekly Planet - Tron: Legacy - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

The trontent (Tron content) train trontinues (Tron continues) on Tron week! This time we're looking at the culmination off all good things Tron in 2010's Tron: Legacy. Jeff Bridges returns to the duel roles of Kevin Flynn and Clu in a far more visually appealing and dynamic legacy sequel to the 1982 original. And it has all the Tron stuff including light cycle battles, throwing a frisbee, running about and also Tron the guy called Tron. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to Tron Week. That's right. All the Tron Tent you could ever want. Tent. Very good. Is it? Can you believe we're doing two videos in one week? Is it? Yes.

Thank you. I can believe that. And do you know why we're doing it? We made a scheduling issue. No, because we love... We made a scheduling mistake. I don't think that's true. Oh, you don't think?

I think there's two this week and then a gap next week because we love Trontent. I think that's what's happened. And we love Tron tent and then we're so exhausted from that. We need to take a week. Exactly. Yeah. Please leave a like because we are talking, of course, about Tron. Legacy.

That's right. I love it. It's so good. I would have, if you'd ask... After being just drowned in what I consider mediocre Tron tent...

Mediocre to bad... Well, see, that's the thing because if someone were to ask me your opinion of Tron Legacy a few weeks ago, I would have said James thought it was all right. Based on what I know about James, he thinks that movie's all right,

but after a rewatch and after being drowned in the previous generation of Tron stuff, of which Tron Legacy wouldn't exist without us being ground in all that stuff. Exactly. And I don't even think we highlighted earlier this week. The effort they put to even make things glow because they were individually cutting out cells to isolate moments. You're talking about the original time.

The original Tron by frame to get it to even look like that, which I hate. I mean, Tron Legacy that's used computers, which is easy. Well, sort of. The suits are practical for the most part. They've got like light pipe. dim to them. They seem a little impractical. I mean, there's no pockets, is there? There's just bits to latch your plane onto or latch your bike onto or whatever. What do you put your wallet? What are you carrying around? Everything's face idea. How do you buy stuff at the bar? You touch things with

your fingers and then the force happens or whatever. Oh, I didn't think about that. If you're Jeff Bridges. What if you want to pay cash though? What do you keep your ID? I guess it's in your disc. Yeah. What if you want to buy a weird drink from David Bowie? Use your disc. Everybody's touching and going to their disc. Oh, look, guys, I'll lift my disc at home. Can I pay half on one disc and half on the other disc? I'm buying for the whole table. That's what Rinsler's doing.

Of course. You know what this is, though? This is taking concepts which are really solid, really dynamic, really clever from the 80s that you couldn't fully realize. Yes. And then bringing them to the modern day. It is a remake in a manner of speaking, I think. You know, it's got, I mean, I guess in the sense that it's got all the,

It's got all the hits. The same beats. Yes. Yeah. But it's, yeah, it's like how, I guess it's like how people imagined it would have been back in the 80s if they had, you know, money and actual computers. More than one computer. And not, you know, glow in the dark hazard tape. They're sticking to say.

Exactly. I just want to talk about the lead up to this. This was in development hell for years. It did turn a profit. They knew there was kind of an audience there. There were sequels that were official than unofficial, including children. Tron 2.0, which is a video game. We played at at Big Sandwich.com, if you do want to check it out.

But to actually get this off the ground, there was a VFX concept teaser, which was at Comic Con in 2008. Directed by Joseph Kaczynski. Exactly. The king of the legacy sequel, because of course he did Top Gun Maverick. He did F1, which would have been a sequel to Days of Thunder if Tom Cruise wasn't busy, I assume. Yep.

But it's got the same vibe. But yeah, it totally does, yeah. That wasn't designed as like, this is the movie we're making. That was, does anybody care about? this. It was to show Disney that there's an audience and it was also to see if it could be done. And you got Jeff Bridges back for it. Double Jeff Bridges. Yes. Doing double time. Yeah, I want to, we will talk about the dual roles that Jeff Bridges is playing. And then that that teaser became the original trailer. And I downloaded

that trailer back in the day. Oh yeah. Just as high res as it could have possibly been. Still looks amazing. Probably 480P. And I just so I could watch it over and over again. I'm like, this is incredible. And this is just how the original Tron was. His help was what I thought It never was not even for a split second No that's true yeah So they got Joseph Kaczynski This was the most expensive film

Made by a first time director This is a 170 million dollar movie The reason Part of the reason it looks so good is Spoiler alert it did okay Yeah It again it has like the last one It did okay and it has become a cult film

Which is why we're getting a sequel Precisely But I think part of the reason this is so good Part of many reasons It's because Joseph Kaczynski has an incredible eye all of his movies, whether you like the movie, Oblivion or not. I do. We talked about it recently. I can't remember. Did I think it was good? You'll have to go back and watch.

I think so. He's a former architect. So he was heavily designed in this entire process. So the world, the way it feels, I mean, it's a digital world, but it's very tactile. And I think part of that is the sound design. Yes. There's a lot of people sliding on glass and you can like, you know, there's a lot of squeak, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. A squeak of boots on glass.

Yeah, this is a squeak wall. It is a squeak wall. equal. But yeah, there is more practical stuff in this than you'd think. I guess like the first movie where a lot of the effects were hand cutting animation. Oh yes. Yeah. So each of these suits were like $60,000 each. There were $13 million spent in costumes alone. They were powered by batteries and they'd have to turn them off between takes and like put new batteries in. You couldn't sit in them because they're all fragile. Well, you can't sit on a pack of nine-volt batteries, can you? Go straight up your ass. They're stored in your butts. Yeah, I guess in 2010

or 2009 when they filmed this, the LED kind of strip situation, which any streamer could get now, wasn't as available, you know? Back in the day, they were probably really fragile, too, if you bent him too far, they just wouldn't work. Oh, absolutely, yeah. But the idea was that, yeah, this is going to be a franchise.

Yeah. There was a prequel video game, there were prequel comics, there was an animated show, which came two years after. Which is set in between... Yes. It's set in between the flashback sequences of this movie

and then before the present-day sequences in this movie. Let's talk story. Okay. It's not about Tron. No, it never is. No, it never is and it never will be. The cartoon series is about Tron, but it's not the original Tron. It's a different guy. Wait, so the Tron in the cartoon series is not Original Tron,

who's also the Tron from this movie. No, he meets Original Tron. I thought he carried Tron over from the original Grid World. Yes, he did. But that Tron meets another guy who takes on the identity of Tron. Oh, my God. Yeah, Real Tron is only in the Carlin. Because I did watch some of that show in the lead-up to this.

It's great. Yeah, it's pretty good. I just got transepted, Mason. I didn't even know. I should have watched more episodes. There's layer upon layer to this trontent, let me tell you. For this character who's never the main character. That's right.

So this, I mean, this version is set, it's set in the present day of 2011, the distant past. 310. Yeah. Is it? Who knows? Circa the 2010s. Yeah. You know, he's got that duck bill hair, so it's somewhere around that era.

Yeah. But, you know, after the events in the original. Tron, Kevin Flynn, Jeff Bridges. He's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make the grid. I'm young. Yeah, I'm young, I'm young and glossy. I'm young and glossy. I'm young and glossy and handsome. And I'm gonna make the grid.

And let me tell you, it's gonna change everything. And then in like, 1989, he disappears. Yep. And his son's like, well. This freaking sucks. Yeah, this sucks. And my mom died, even though they filmed a bunch of stuff with my mom, but they wanted to kind of remove that element from the movie.

Interesting. Yeah. Right. Well, decades later, he's just a, he's a rebellious young man. And all he's got some motorcycle and a leather jacket and a piece of multi-million dollar waterfront property. Well, he does own the company. Well, he does own the company.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got that safety net. He doesn't interfere with the day-to-day, the day-to-day operations. Operations of Encom, the company that he owns. But once a year he shows up and he pranks him. Yeah. And Bruce Boxlider's like, pretty good. Glad I got a gig.

Yeah. Because apparently he wasn't going to beat in this initially. Because there's only two returning actors. Yeah. Well, there's three and a bonus thing. We'll talk about. about it. Apparently it was like fan outcry.

We've got to have Tron in your Tron movie, right? But to be, we will riot if Tron is not in this but also if he's the main character. He must be in this, but he must be in the background. Bruce Boxlighter's great though, right?

Yes. Yeah. It's Bruce Boxlightner. Oh, okay. Bruce Boxleitner. Yes. I mean, maybe that's the problem.

Maybe I'm the problem, basically. Oh, you're going to leave all that in? Yeah, fuck it, whatever. Okay, great. I left that thing about the battery. out the assid. What's interesting, because there's been a lot of talk, you know, about this movie, about the de-aging effect on Jeff Bridges.

We're probably not going to cover it. Just kidding. We're going to talk about it a lot. Oh, my God. It's going to be endless. But obviously, you know, Clue, who is his computer-generated program copy, he never ages. And so the de-aging effect, because it looks glossy and digital and unreal, it kind of works for the character.

But they then went and had to do a bunch of flashback sequences. featuring the real Kevin Flynn in the 80s, and that glossy effect does not. It hurts, yeah. It hurts, the mouth doesn't work. Yeah. You know, it doesn't really match the talking. No.

But also, what is not covered a lot is that Bruce Boxlightner's character... I think it's box blipener. He also gets DH, but you don't notice as much, first of all, because he's only in a couple of scenes. And it's a fuzzy background. But also because Bruce Boxlightner looks exactly the same. He does, doesn't he? He's just got grey hair, so I guess they just had to do less.

He also doesn't emote in the same way. He didn't need to. Yeah, anyway, so the story, so Sam Flynn, played by Garrett Headland, who, we were talking about this just before. Was he considered bland in this role at the time? I think some people were like... Because I think he's really good. I think he's good too.

I think there's my memory of this when the movie came out was people were like, oh, he's not, you know, he doesn't quite suit the role. But I think he does. And I think the outcry basically was he's too handsome to be a nerd. He's too handsome to be able to program a thing. But then he's got generally. Jeff Bridges' DNA, so of course he's going to be handsome in this movie, obviously. You just tricked in the first one that Jeff Bridges isn't handsome because he's in that stupid suit.

That's right. But he's very handsome also. Casting on this movie was by Sarah Halley Finn, who people will know who cast all the Marvel movies. And in my opinion, has never missed, not once. I think Garrett Headland's great in this. Did you cast Tron Ares? Because you might have missed one time. Oh, no, I don't know.

I think that particular casting choice was a non-negotiable though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think Headland's got a lot of nuance. Yeah, Olivia Wilde's great Yeah The last of the manic pixie dream girls Yeah Oh my God, what's this

What's books What's kissing? I don't even know I mean at least you could like fight I guess Yeah no I think she's still in it Yeah And there is they do write

A reason for her to be that way But yeah That manic pixie dream girl Like it's dead for a reason Yeah It's awful There is a good bit though Where

Are the Jules Verne Yeah Sam Flynn's like I know Jules Verne And she's like What's he like I'd be like Yeah that's right I'm a better writer

Yeah, I actually wrote a bunch of that for him She's never going to get out of you Yeah, yeah Little does he know That's right But anyway, so the plot is that Sam Flynn Looking for his father Yeah

He goes to the Flynn's arcade where There was a mysterious message sent To a pager Yeah If you can even believe that No This got the scent of my knock I mean talking about artifacts of the past

Sam does use a Nokia phone For a lot of this And I'm like, ooh that is That is vintage talking about pages I mean if I were to be critical About some of this movie I mean, it's a contrivance of just moving the plot forward. But the fact that Sam gets this page and then he goes to Flynn's arcade

and then he happens to use the quarter that his dad gave him in 1989 to specifically use the Tron arcade game, then the coin gets put in and then it comes out of the return slot and it lands on the scrape on the ground, which leads him to the clue of opening the, of moving the Tron arcade machine out of the way to lead to a hidden door to get him to the Tron machine and the laser that sucks you off in your computer, you know?

God, the suck you off lasers back. Right. I don't think the effect is as interesting though. Well, you don't see it at all. No. I was, I guess I had, like what kind of a cubic situation is this going to be a bit? Yeah, I had a fuzzy memory of that, but I guess he's refined the process since 1980, whatever. It's not as interesting though.

It's not, no, no. But I did like the transition from Flynn's Arcade in the real world to Flynn's Arcade on the grid. I thought that was fun. That was really nice. I think there's a subtle, I think there's a costuming transition as well. I think he switches from brown leather jacket to black leather jacket. Well, I guess it is, it's a monochrome world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or it has been in the past. This is a different computer simulation as well, isn't it, than the previous one? So, yeah, and then his dad's been trapped in there or whatever for a thousand cycles, which is like a thousand years. Oh, maybe. No, apparently it is. Well, he's looking great then. I mean, he ages in real time, like real earth time. But to him, he's been there for a bit under a thousand years.

Okay, interesting. Yeah, and everything looks incredible. The de-resing is unreal. The light cycles. The de-resing. of the light cycles as they smash and all the goose spills out of it? The de-resing, when we see the first guy get killed in the disc war and he explodes into cubes like he's made of safety glass, that's incredible.

God, it's great work. So good. But then, of course, yeah, CGI Jeff Bridges, apparently it wasn't lost on him that he was scanned into a computer for this movie again. Though more recently he said, yeah, I didn't really like that. I look like Bill Maher, which is not really someone you want to look like. Even Bill Ma doesn't want to look like Bill Ma. That's not probably true.

He probably sees himself in a very specific way that doesn't really reflect his awful face and personality. He thinks he looks like a young Jeff Bridges. He probably does. But it's mostly head replacement. So they had a stand-in actor who would then copy Jeff Bridges. Jeff Bridges would do the performance. You have the dots on him and they record everything.

And then they'd have an actor in the same suit as clue. And then they put the CGI head. There's no deep faking done here because, of course, it's before that. been attempts since then which has made it look better but I also like it just 10 minute videos from like YouTube effects crew guys going yeah we did it's pretty easy actually yeah well speaking of corridor crew recreated the light cycle battle from the first movie in like a day all right yeah yeah which is not a brag they weren't like these guys suck yeah it's just like look how far this has come we did it on our phones we didn't even we didn't even care about this

we just said phone recreate the light cycle battle from the original tron it just did it but I think of like the movie from the 80s, this Jeff Bridges' clue effect is a weird oddity from the past at this point. So I don't hate it. Also, the emotions that he conveys in the performance, it comes across. Yeah. It's not like his emotion isn't matching what he's saying. Yeah. I feel like. What I would say though is maybe it would have just been easy to just put a little bit of a shadow over there Jeff Bridges the whole time. Yeah. Keep the helmet on. Yeah. But I think the idea of clue as a villain is great. This is second clue. We've been clue septed. That's true.

That's true, T.R.U. The first clue got in a tank accident, as we saw it, that was captured and killed. So he builds this guy who's like an exact copy of him, has all of his knowledge to run the grid while he's not there. That's right. While he's sort of being a father. And he says to him, and this is all in the movie, I don't need to explain it, but that we're going to create the perfect system. Or that's what you're designed for. So he gets locked into this binary thinking of, you know, well, then that's what I'm going to do.

Any anomaly I'm going to exterminate, which is what happened. and this is there's programs coming from seemingly nothing that he disagrees with and there's a genocide, it's a whole thing. It is a whole thing. A lot of it's in the movie. Almost all of that's in the movie and spin-off material. Yeah, but I think it's also really interesting that Kevin Flynn even acknowledges that. He's like, I fucked up.

I gave you an impossible task and you're just doing what I told you to do. I'm a double bad dad. I was a bad dad to my real kid and my fake computer kid who looks exactly like me. Sort of. And is my age. There's a great line There's a few great lines from Jeff Bridges

But at the end By a digital jazz man By a digital jazz man The moment where Flynn gets betrayed And Clue says to him Am I still the creator of the perfect system And Jeff Bridges just goes Yeah

That's great Yeah yeah And there's a moment at the end When they have the showdown And Clue says to him The cycles haven't been kind Have they And he goes no you don't look so bad

And Clue just for a second It's just like What the fuck just happened He just rinsed me In front of everybody I got rinsed Yeah But the fact that he doesn't have that

That kind of weird or creativity I think is a really fun Kind of interplay I mean you can't be the creative A perfect system if you couldn't win a roast battle That's right exactly So his plan is to get into the real world Yes

I feel like if he did someone would just shoot him I don't think he'd last very long Oh you think so And I also think How are you gonna bring your army in Like one bloke at a time Like what's the plan I don't know how that laser works man

Okay This is a new segment, Mason. Go on. It's called, I've got questions and you've got answers. I don't know if I do, though. This is where I've got a question, and you have the answers. Can I ever ask a question? No, I've got the questions.

Okay, all right. It's not called you've got the question. What if I do have questions? Do you have questions? I don't think I do currently. They don't worry about it. Okay, all right. If you've got a segment idea, not this one, because this is my segment, you can bring it next time.

All right. Where's the food from? Great question. What is it? Is it digital food? Is it like when they scanned that orange is? in the first movie and if you scan in some food can then you replicate it on and on and on is it just an approximation of what food is like the matrix so it's got all the taste and kind

of like the feel of real food but you're not getting actual substance from it do you even need to eat do you defecate if you do does it come out as cubes if you're asking me yeah you're asking me personally yeah you mean in the movie tron listen i've got questions not in real life i don't know all questions if you go into the real world and you're a tron person Do you need to eat? Do you need to eat? So if he's bringing an army into the real world, how does that work? Well, here's the thing.

I think some of those questions will be answered by the movie Tron Aries, but also I think they can just as equally say, well, it's a different iteration of the laser that sucks you off into the computer because it's a laser that sucks you off into the real world. They're not going to bring the laser that sucks you off back for Tron Aries. I rewatched the trailer for Tron Aries recently because at time of recording the movies not yet. And they seem to be being 3D printed.

Yeah. Because you see them, you know, when you're 3D print something, it's got a kind of frame of like extra stuff and you sort of break it off. So I reckon they're probably just going to be like different rules for these guys. So I reckon probably the digital guys in Toronto areas don't have to eat. Okay. I'm going to guess Kevin Flynn wanted these guys when he programmed this thing to be like they can enjoy food. Yeah. There's also a guy begging on the street.

So I think you do need things. That's what I'm saying. I reckon you probably have to. Is it like when you run out of it? a clock juice in the clock time movie and you need more clock time. Is it like, is it that kind of currency? You need more bits and bites and time. But that would also suggest this is new for the grid because I don't think the characters

in the original Tron, like your spreadsheet program isn't like, hey, can you feed me? You know what I mean? Yeah. Right? So I guess this must be new. Maybe it's like the egg feeding game. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you do the egg feeding game and then they disperse the eggs to all the

other programs without your knowledge. Wow, Mason. I had questions and you had answers. I definitively answered all those questions. And what were your questions again? This is my segment. So it doesn't matter. Okay.

Anyway, David Bowie's in this. Yes, correct. Or a guy pretending to be David Bowie. It's Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen. It's Martin Sheen's brother, Michael Sheen. That's none of you. What's going on here?

You're losing it, man. You spent too long in the world of Tron. I really have. Which is called Tron. The place there in is called Tron. I'm pretty sure. That's right. I mean, you know, he does a betrayal or whatever.

He's in the video game. I think he's in the show as well. There's a moment when that place is stormed by Flynn's troops and they de-res a bunch of civilians. I love those little jump packs they have. Oh, so good. The paddles? Yeah.

It's kind of like a parachute, but it's way cooler. But anyway, there's one person who gets de-resed, and it just cuts to a woman at one point, and she's just holding a pile of broken glass and crying. Yeah, which... And then it just... Yeah. I was going to hook up with this guy.

No, I'm sad. Or she's taking her husband to the bar. I don't know. But Clue gets to... the disc because he needs Jeff Bridges his disc so he can get into the real world and know old Jeff Bridges' secrets because Jeff Bridges put all his brains in a disc

that's what happens, you get a disc. Because that dude grappling hooks his disc. You shouldn't put it on your back. You should put it under your coat. Yeah. Who was that guy? Some guy. The Rinsler. I thought it was Rinsler. No, Michael Sheen kills him immediately. Rinsler. No, he kills the real. Oh, yeah, he does. You're right. Damn. That guy was good. Whoever that

guy was. That's incredible. He's like that guy in that Star Wars one, you know, the guy that fights, um, yeah, the guy fights Finn. Yeah, and then Hans Solo just fucking shoots him or whatever. That dude was incredible. Agreed. R-op. But then, you know, he does his big speech, does his big Star Wars, the First Order speech,

but he just leaves the disc up in a room. Dude, you've got to have someone with eyes on that disc. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a rookie mistake. What I would say, though, Clue, not afraid to get his hands dirty. And I got to respect that. He'll get in the, he'll do a light cycle. He'll do a light cycle. He'll do the jet thing.

Yep. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He's spinning. with you. He's spinning with you, mate.

That's awesome. And I have a showdown, and there's a big beamer light in the sky. This beam of light in the sky is all right, because Tron originated, well, one of the earlier versions of big blue light in the sky. I'm okay with this, all right? It's true, yeah. It's okay. They're allowed to do it. I got a feeling it's going to be a big red light in the sky and the new one. Oh, hell yeah. But again, Tron originated it. That's true. We haven't talked about it. The score. Incredible. Dark Punk. I think it's Darth Punk's best work. I think it's the best thing that They did that song one more time.

And around the world. And they went around the world. Featuring the lyrics one more time and around the world, respectively. That feels like cheating. I think it's great. I think if you were in search of a soundtrack to drive down a really long highway at night, put the Trong Legacy soundtrack on. It's incredible work.

All right, then I will. It's the best thing I've ever done, and they just did that Fortnite collaboration. So I'm even including that. Wow. Yeah. But of course, like all French people, James, eventually their helmets filled up with too much red wine. and cigarette ash, and they were forced to retire.

So RRP Daft Punk. That's what happens. And they're in this movie, of course. Yeah. There they are. There's a Ben and Lawrence, they've headed them in to this video. Oh, yes? Yeah.

And here's what they look like without their helmets. Don't do that to the most. No, they're just regular guys. Yeah, I know. They're the most 2010s regular guys you've ever seen. I agree with you. Here they are. Here's a bunch of photos of them.

We've ruined the magic for everybody. Just two guys. Anyways, I want to talk about what the future of this movie was initially going to be. Okay. But first, Mason, we have to do Trondtrivacy. It's the trivia section

and the show. We have to do the trivia, of course. We have to do trivia. It's just a segment we have to do now, right? We're never going to not do it. I like it. Why are you saying it's so negative? Mason, I'm down on it.

Don't be down on it. What a drag. Man. The crowd voices during the disc battle at the beginning was captured at 2010 San Diego Comic Con. Oh. They were instructed, there was like words on screen

and they did it and then it's in the movie. Pretty cool stuff. Okay. Other actors considered for San Diego. Flynn were Casey Affleck, Chris Pine, Ryan Goosling, and Michael Stahl David. Who's that? He's an actor. Interesting.

And of course, Killian Murphy is in this. That's right. Uncredited cameo. Yep. As Edward Dillinger, the second. So he's the son of the first Dillinger, played by David Warner. He, of course, is the bad guy. And the first one, one of the bad guys.

It's almost as if they put him in this because he was going to be in future movies. That's correct. The antagonist in the third movie. It's almost like that. There are some Dillinger's in the sequel. Yes. But it's Gillian Anderson. And...

Dillian Anderson. No, it's Ralph Boner. Yeah, no, it is. It's, um... Quicksilver. Yes. Yeah. What's his name, no?

Evan Peters. Evan Peters, thank you. Hell yeah. Anyways, box office for this on a budget of $170 million. It made $409.9. Small profit. Mm-hmm. Interest was there.

Yeah. Moving forward with the sequel. But of course, at this point, we were approaching big, big numbers with, like, Marvel Superhero Project and stuff. Exactly. So, they're like, only $400 million. Yeah. Well, like the board at Encom.

We only like profits. You've got to release our new operating system, ProfitOS. Oh, what's Garrett Headland Doddies ruined it again? I think he should stop doing these pranks. Because eventually he's going to cut into the company's profits enough that he can't sustain living in this luxury Lardida shipping container. He's going to have to start living in a real shipping container. Yeah, you might be right.

God bless him. But it's all right. At the end of the movie, he takes control of the event comedy. That's part of the movie. You can see that in the movie. Most of that happens in the movie. You know how I ruined a bunch of underling's lives every year because everybody would have had to scramble to fix everything

after I'd ruined it every year. You know, I do that thing? Yeah, yeah. Well, now I'm taken over. Because I'm the founder's son. And I'm good looking. That's right. You forgot that.

Everybody's been saying it. But yeah, this was actually partially scrapped because of a couple other Disney properties. One was because Tomorrowland failed. And that's about going into another world and whatever. Yeah. I did get, I did kind of get vibes of that in this. Just because it,

It is that amazing kind of go into a new wondrous world. Yeah, this is way better than tomorrow land. It is way than tomorrow land. A movie for no one. I quite liked it. But again, it's a movie for no one. It's not going anywhere. Bless you, Bradbird.

Bless you for taking the heat you got for the Incredibles. And one of the Mission Apossibles? Four. That's a good one. It is a good one. Yeah. And Joseph Kaczynski also said in 2017 that because of the acquisition of Lucasfilm and Marvel, and I guess then 20th century,

They're not thinking Tron at that point. They're riding high on all of that stuff. But now they're like, we're not riding as high on all of that stuff. What if Tron came back? Yeah. We purchased all the content for boys, Star Wars and Marvel, and we drove those into the ground in the Disney Formula Machine assembly line. We've got to do another thing for boys.

And we love them for it. And what a boys laugh, 30 seconds to Mars. God. It's interesting, though, because this also came out in like a low period of Disney, but they were trying stuff. So it's not dissimilar, I guess, to the new one. Anyways, there is something on the disc. The identity disc?

No, regular disc. It's called Tron the next day, and it features Dan Shaw, who played Ram, and this time he's user Roy Kleinberg. And he's running the underground Flynn movement and all of that. As part of this tinny-weeny little in-between call, there's been like an underground movement called Flynn Lives that suggests that Kevin Flynn, you know, he didn't die. he's in a computer

Yeah And then there's But there's people like You're just a bunch of cranks But then it turned out He is in the computer That's right I mean he is back for Toronto areas

But it wasn't that initially But also would Interestingly Speaking of plot threads That went nowhere That short film Does end with Ed Dillinger

Yeah Junior Killion Murphy's character Speaking to a computer Yes Calling it Dad And it speaks with the voice Of the master control program

From the first movie Suggesting that his dad And the MCP have somehow emerged into one being or he's trapped in a in the encom servers or something or maybe it just is the master control program maybe yeah he's adopted ed dillinger junior yeah i guess adopted killion murphy academy award winner killion murphy i'm your dad now i reckon they i'm proud of you killion murphy they would have gone to him for the new one right i think

they did and he was like i don't want i don't want to do that yeah i'm peeky blinders baby that's right peeky blinders for life i've always been peeky blinders and i always will be yeah but There was an official sequel in the works with, like, Garrett Headland was in it, Joseph Kaczynsi was going to return, Olivia Waugh was going to return. It was going to start in October of 2015, but then by the following May, that was when Tomorrow Lane came out, and they killed it for like 10 years. But now it's John's back. Anyways, thank you so much for joining us on this Tron Time.

It has been a Tron Time, hasn't it? Hashtag Tron Time, folks. They should have called it Tron Morroland. I think it would have worked. I could have called it Rob Morroland, which is what I called Northern Exposure, the TV series Northern Exposure. Is that? Rob Morrow's in it.

Is that what anyone else calls it? He's the guy from numbers. I know the guy from numbers. I'm familiar with numbers. They solve crime using math, being like, that guy couldn't have killed himself because he couldn't jump that far or whatever. You get it.

I know I do. I'm proud of you. Also, as mentioned, we have a service called big sandwich. com where, yes, we looked at a bunch of Tron stuff, Tron Comics, Tron Video Games. We also looked at the year in 1982 for our podcast Time Crapcial, where we pick a year in pop culture and we go through everything. So that's a bit of fun

If you do want to check it out Also help support this show It's $9 a month if you want But also you can just subscribe here If you want But it also does early videos Here's in towards Not next week but the week after

What are we looking at? Think Predator movies Whoa So I'm not doing anything next week Probably not All right We can fill something in I'll release the Chon Aries review

Was like Oh yeah okay nice The Dow will put together A nice little graphique And people can listen to it Yeah great That's fun isn't it It could be Jared Leto

Slowly transforming We're going into a pile of sludge. Yes, please. Oh, and thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence for just pumping these out. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Ben and Lawrence. Because they also agree that I didn't make an error. Thanks, everyone.

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