The Weekly Planet - TWP Presents - TOFOP

Episode Date: June 28, 2018

Good morning or another time everyone. This week before putting a pause on these weekly episodes we're putting up Comedy Podcasting staple TOFOP.  It'd explain it but that wouldn't do it justice and also I can't. Find all of TOFOP here:https://www.planetbroadcasting.com/https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/tofop/id381224765?mt=2https://omny.fm/shows/tofop-1/tofop-195-monolithic-epicureanism Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The week. Look, this is a roundabout way of me saying happy Thursday, first of all, but also happy you should listen to Tofop because it's a wonderful podcast. That's right. With two good friends of ours. Good friends. Two people we know who we're friendly with. I don't want to say good friends because we don't hang out

all the time no friendly when we hang out most of the time six days out of the week we hang out with them the remaining day

we have to do our own podcast so there's just no time there's just no time it's Charlie Cawson who you might know from various Australian entertainment media including Wolf Creek

the TV series which you can stream if you would like to and Will Anderson who you'd know from probably everything because he's on Gruen Transfer, great stand-up comedian. Your childhood hero.

That's true. I used to listen to a lot of... He's back on the radio, isn't he? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, him and Adam on Triple J. But look, it's a great show and the way that they kind of have to describe it if you twist their arm,

it's two great mates having a bloody comedy chat or whatever, which sounds a bit naff, but it's often hilarious. I think it sounds great and it is gross. Okay, good. No, but it genuinely is. Anyway, we've banged on long enough, haven't we, mate? Yes, we have. Time to listen to two other blokes bang on for long enough.

Isn't that the truth? That's the truth. And the tooth. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I don't know if I've ever told you about the time when I was in year 11, year 10 or 11 science class, and we had this teacher who was, fair to say, had a volatile...

He was a good teacher. Like, I don't want to unfairly misrepresent him but you didn't want to get on his bad side because if he cracked it he was like a proper old school teacher in his punishments and how viciously he cracked it like you know he was a throat he was a throw chalk at people style teacher he was uh yeah you know he was the sort of teacher you might send into some sort of if you were rebooting that michelle pfeiffer movie and you wanted a male lead of a guy that you were going to send into some troubled community to turn around a group of boys, then this was your sort of guy.

And one of his punishments he would do was we had like stools because, you know, it's a science lab, you know, so you had those tall stools that you would sit on at school and one of the punishments... Bar stool. Yeah, a bar stool. I guess we didn't call them bar stools that you would sit on at school. And one of the punishments... Bar stool. Yeah, a bar stool. I guess we didn't call them bar stools back then. But essentially, yes, a bar stool.

And his big punishment was that he'd make you hold the bar stool out, like in front of you for like two minutes or whatever, which doesn't seem like that long, but it's actually really, really painful and really, really heavy. So anyway, he was a personal trainer, I guess is what I'm saying. I had a teacher, I had a teacher who's a form of punishment. Me and a kid were fighting in class. I think it was like year six or something. And so he made us get up in front of the class and we had to apologize to each other in front of the class but we had to do it in song it was like like in song so you had to say so it's like i'm sorry theater sports game he was like i'm gonna throw your song i'm gonna throw you an

emotion you're sorry uh it needs to be in the form of a musical and a duet it was punishment through humiliation because we had to do it in front of the entire class and you had to make up this yet to choose the words and make up the melody for the song as you sang it and it wasn't just like you did one verse we had to go back and forth like you know you had to say i'm sorry for taking your pencil case now the guy said that's okay charlie and you're like and then he's like keep going you're like and i hope that we never fight again that would just go on and on and on and on and you would be so humiliated that you're like yeah right i'm not going to muck around in this teacher's class anymore i mean that is again if you were going to reboot it like you know uh michelle dangerous minds a dangerous mind style

movie i for some reason i was about to say Despicable Me, but that was not a sequel to Dangerous Minds. So if you're going to reboot it, I love the idea of someone, oh, you get Lin-Manuel, you know, the Hamilton guy.

Miranda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Miranda from Sex and the City. You get the Hamilton guy and Miranda from Sex and the City. You get the Hamilton guy and Miranda from Sex and the City and you send them into a high school to teach kids about the power of music. Yeah, it's just one of those things where it's like a dead poet society,

but it's like dead improvisational song society. Well, it's funny you should bring up impro and theatre sports, Will, because we put out a call last week uh to the listeners to send us send us some some letters content is what we wanted we're running short on ideas and we need you guys to we need you guys to bloody pull your weight contribute a little bit yeah absolutely i mean i wouldn't have put it like that but i appreciate the aggression and the way that you've lent into that to our audience we basically just said you can give us some feedback most companies do it

actually charlie i mean this bottle of water in front of me has a number on the back you can call and leave them some feedback that be your drinking i imagine has a number you can call and leave them feedback every uber ride you ever get into ask for feedback if you go to a restaurant you can rate it on the internet we are in a feedback society so the idea that we might ask our audience for a little bit of feedback should not have been delivered quite as aggressively as you've delivered it. Like, can you imagine? And also eight years after we started our business.

You know what I mean? Like, we've been up and running for a really long time. We finally asked for feedback. And the first thing we do is slap the audience down. I mean, admittedly, that is coming from me, who essentially answered emails for seven years with, fuck off, it's a free podcast. So I might not be in a position to talk either.

Well, we got a lot of people submitting some really good letters. We're not going to get to all of them, because a lot of them contain links to videos and web pages and Wikipedia pages that we can refer to at a later date. But this one letter did catch my eye, and it's really a letter to you, Will. Oh, okay. Now, I'm not sure if you'll remember this name, but this person knows you. It's from Aaron Allen.

Okay, no, I can't. No? I don't really have any. Aaron Allen, I mean, it's a good superhero name. It's got that alliteration that comic book characters normally have. Aaron Allen. Yeah, and the twist is that he's like The Flash, but he's also an alcoholic.

So AA has a double meaning for him, which is like he can run really fast, but only when he's drunk, but he's trying to give up booze. It's a real mess he's in. Yeah, yeah. I mean, to reach super super speeds he has to get really drunk and then be running from the cops like he's like pissing in an alleyway or something then the cops come so that's when his superpower activates yeah he has to be absolutely blind drunk

so in any emergency he essentially has to have a bottle of jaeger on him at all time he doesn't have a utility belt he has a small mini bar that he carries around around his waist in case of emergency okay so it's quite a long letter but i i think it's worth getting into he starts with okay hey will so let's talk about a moment from your teenage years and we're talking about three words high school theater sports okay is that three words i guess theater sports is like an amalgamated word what yeah he amalgamated the words in in his delivery it's three words so some context first i was driving back from performing at port ferry folk festival i'm a mandolin player for hire these days and in my car i had someone uh who i'd met there who I offered to give a lift back to Melbourne.

As we were coming into town past the Westgate, your face was on a Triple M billboard and became a point of conversation. She told me that she really liked your comedy and listens to your podcast religiously. I told her that to me, you're that bloke from the grammar school that I used to play theatre sports against. Anything yet? No? No.

No. I think if I knew somebody who was a mandolin player when they were in high school, I would never have forgotten them. So at this stage, I'm drawing a blank because I feel like they have a distinctive thing about them. If I was like, hey, remember that guy from the high school who plays the mandolin?

I think everybody would know that guy. Dude, his name is Aaron Allen and he plays the mandolin. Like think everybody would know that guy. Dude, his name is Aaron Allen and he plays the mandolin. Like, that is lyrics from a song. Of course you would remember that guy. Exactly. He's that guy that Mumford & Sons wrote a whole album about.

In fact, when Aaron Allen's teacher would punish him in school, he would get up with his mandolin and have to sing his apology while playing the mandolin. All right. So he thinks of you as the bloke from the grammar school that I used to play theatre sports against. I began to

tell her about the inter-school competitions in SAIL, and she seemed to know an awful lot about such an obscure thing, admitting that Will has talked about this on the podcast. I don't remember this, but I'm... Look, do you remember us having this conversation well here's the thing i will say charlie is that i we've had a lot of

conversations in our life both on the podcast and off of the podcast and yeah it's hard to separate i mean i played theater sports at high school and um yeah okay sure i'm i'm guessing that at some stage i've talked about it on the podcast. I'm happy so far to lock in the facts of this, that we're being contacted by some undercover superhero who plays the mandolin by day and solves crimes at night. And the fact that there is a billboard of me in Melbourne, so that checks out in the story.

And I did play high school theatre sports and I did go to the grammar school. So, so far, there's a lot of evidence here to suggest that what is to follow is correct but let's strap in and say fact-checked fact-checked fact-checked so we're doing this is like this is Mueller-esque investigation I'm presenting you with the document and I'm just asking you to corroborate or dismiss certain parts of the letter but look by the way I also should say the thing that I say all the time when I'm being interviewed about my own life which is if you want to know something about my life i am the worst person to ask because i have a terrible memory but also i have a memory of reframing

things in a way particularly because of my job and i've noticed this very much with this show i'm writing about the arrest like it's gone from in the last four weeks from being you know my story and me knowing everything about it and thinking all these different moments of are important to being an audience's story which is a much kind of different story still the same story but you drop out bits that i thought were important that the audience don't and all these sort of things and then suddenly if i tell that enough times that's going to be the story so in my mind the story will be the show so often i talk about like you know when i grew up on the farm and we had a cat called cricket bat and we had a dog called

nintendo i had a joke about that and i was talking to my parents about it and they're going you know that like we didn't know right and i'm like did we not i'm pretty sure we did and they were like no no you've just had a joke about that that you did for too long well it's like when we had my mum on the podcast when we did that christmas bonus and i was i have for a long time plied this story of me being like oliver twist you know the youngest of nine children living in this leaky house and then mum was like oh no charles had a wonderful upbringing like completely created my own myth i mean maybe from my perspective, at least you had a cat called Nintendo.

I didn't even have a Nintendo. Right, but I don't think that we did have a cat called Nintendo. I think I just made that up as part of a joke and then believed it was true. I know I mourned that dead fictional cat. All right, back to Aaron Allen. Okay. I began to tell her about the inter-school competitions and sale and she seemed to know an awful lot i say hang on so we'll talk about this in the podcast yeah she sent me a couple of links to a particular episode to a particular episode and i had quite a

surreal listen so i want to let you know something in 1991 all right 1991 mike howell can you just look up what were some key touchstones of 1991 let's let's paint a picture of what was going on there so we can get an idea of what music you know this is like charlie this is like on those like when they're trying to get somebody to remember something for like a criminal case or whatever they'll give them smells or the sort of noises of the environment because they trigger your memory we've got to create an idea of what was going on in the year 1991 so i can sort of regress back to high school me and understand that era okay we've got some pop culture information here about 1991 so what would you have been wearing then like well so 91 how old would you have been wearing then, like, Will? So 91, how old would you have been? Like 17?

Well, here's what I can tell you. It would have been, yeah, look, 16, 16 probably. I think I was playing, from memory, theatre sports with some guys who were in the year above me at school, which means I'm year 11, which means I'm 16. I probably could have also just worked that out by the year and the year I was born and doing the maths on that. So let's say 17.

Based on the maths, 17, depending on what time of the year it was. But I'll tell you this. I know what I was wearing at school, which was a school uniform. But I also know what I was wearing when we played the high school theatre sports competition because my mum had sewn us some comical style rainbow hammer shorts. So you're talking the era of your hammer short. And she had made for our theatre sports team a selection of matching baggy rainbow style colourful hammer shorts. Okay. Well, here are some big musical artists of that era

1991 amy grant brian adams bb and cc winans boys to men brian adams cnc music factory kathy dennis color me bad dj jesse jeff and the fresh prince and on in vogue any of those on your walkman yeah definitely cnc Factory. Everybody dance now. Things that make you go, hmm. Yeah, like that was quite a popular, we had another teacher who was our accounting teacher who always used to go, hmm.

And then that song, Things That Make You Go, hmm, came out. And oh, Charlie, the playground erupted with the jokes that we made about that song and that teacher. What a time for comedy. Until he threw an eraser at you.

He was the guy. I've talked about this on the podcast before, but this was the teacher who used to, when we were doing our exercises from our books, think we weren't looking. And he would take the lids off the whiteboard markers and he would sniff the whiteboard markers. On sniffers? Oh, man, that guy was definitely a junkie. Yeah. All right, I'm going to tell you the top 10 shows of 1991 and you tell me which ones you would watch.

60 Minutes. No. Roseanne. Yes. Murphy Brown. Yes. Cheers. Yes. Home Brown. Yes. Cheers. Yes.

Home Improvement. Actually, not Cheers, because I remember when I went to uni, I'd never seen Cheers, and I watched every single episode of Cheers, because Channel 9 were playing them every night, and when you're at uni, you do ridiculous things like that, so I decided to watch every single episode of Cheers, but on regular TV, night after night. Home Improvement? Ah. of cheers but like on regular tv night after night home improvement uh that's a yes designing designing women no full house uh yeah probably murder comma she wrote

oh definitely murder she wrote i was a big ang Angela Lansbury fan. Major Dad? Nope. And Coach. Which one was Coach? Craig T. Nelson, I think it was. Craig T. Nelson. I always get that one confused with whatever the Burt Reynolds sitcom was. Okay. I don't think I was watching Coach at the time, but I think that I watched it at some

later stage. Top 10 films. Tell me if you would have watched any of this in 1991. Terminator 2. No. Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. No. Beauty and the Beast.

No. Silence of the Lambs. No. City Slickers. Maybe. Hook. No. The Addams Family.

No. What the fuck did you do at night? Well, here's what I'm going to tell you from that is, I remember seeing all of those films once I went to university. So obviously I'm from the country and these were the days where I think films took a little while longer to get out to the country. Yeah, you guys were just getting the latest Charlie Chaplin film.

I think the last thing I remember seeing at the movies was like Coconut Dundee. Oh, well, that's appropriate. All right. Oh, you know, actually, there's one more thing I want to talk about from 91 before we get back to the letter. Okay. Is which of these women are you most likely to have a poster of on your wall? Oh, great. Christine Applegate.

No. Candice Bergen. All right. Linda Evangelista. Naomi Campbell. No. Jennifer Connelly. No.

Oh, really? I thought that would have been a big yes. Cindy Crawford. No. Rebecca De Mornay. No. Julia Louis-Dreyfus. I didn't watch Seinfeld until I went to uni,

but for the sake of saying yes to something, yes. I feel like your time in Hayfield, you were just kept in stasis. You'd go to school, come home. We had two TV networks. One of them was the ABC. We didn't see a lot of stuff. Elvira uh no uh angie everhart no

jodie foster oh yeah maybe yeah maybe maybe like a silence poster the science of the lands poster yeah maybe hopefully that hopefully that not the accused that would be disturbing yeah look i was just really into crying. Robin Givens? No. Rachel Hunter? No. Kathy Ireland?

Don't even know who that is. Oh my God, are you kidding? I even, I had a Kathy Ireland poster. She was like the Sports Illustrated bottle. It was her and Elle Macpherson were like neck and neck for years about who would get the cover. Really? No.

Never heard of her. Tawny Katane. I think she's in a Whitesnake music video. Okay, no. Jennifer Jason Leigh. No. Elle Macpherson. Yeah, maybe.

Come on, you're in Australia. Maybe Elle Macpherson. You would have stolen the tag one of her like bra tags you would have stolen from a department store and kept it under your under your mattress I feel like that's a little bit more

an insight into your life than it is in mine you get the Target catalogue you flick straight through to the underwear section you're like oh perfect pre-internet porn

pre-internet porn. Pre-internet, pre-being able to afford Playboy porn. Madonna. Yeah, maybe. Maybe a Madonna. Kate Moss. Yeah, definitely Kate Moss. All right.

Okay. I feel like we're getting somewhere. Priscilla Presley. Come on. She's not on anyone's fucking wall. I thought you were about to say Priscilla Queen of the Desert. So I guess it's a different direction. No, not Priscilla Presley.

Princess Diana. Oh, no. And even if I had, I would just tell you no, but also no. Claudia Schiffer. Yeah, maybe.. Claudia Schiffer. Yeah, maybe. Maybe Claudia Schiffer. I'm putting together, I'm just writing notes under the, you can't see, but under the table, I'm just writing notes. My psychological profile.

Stephanie Seymour. No. Sharon Stone. Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe Sharon Stone. Or a movie poster with Sharon Stone on it, I'm sure. Heather Thomas. Who is that?

I'm going to say no just because I don't know who she is. Chrissy Turlington. Eh, maybe. And Vanessa Williams. No, no, not Vanessa Williams. All right. So I think we've constructed a fairly accurate view of what you'd look like in 91. You're not watching any TV or seeing any movies.

You're wearing your theater sports pants and you maybe have a poster of Claudia Schiffer or Kate Moss on your wall. Yeah. Okay. I'm happy with that. Okay. So the year is 1991. Boys to men are ruling the charts.

Yeah. It's 1991. We haven't yet come to the end of the road. This is 1991, which was mine and probably your final year of school. Yeah. There was an inter-school comp at St. Pat's Hall in Sale. Sounding familiar? Checks out?

Yeah. It kind of be my last year at school because we played with some older boys, but it's got to be year 11 at school. So, 91 might not be the right year. I'm a bit sceptical about the idea that it was 1991. Might have been. Okay.

Your team, formerly Over the Top, were now known as? No, no idea. Monolithic Epicureanism. Monolithic Epicureanism? Yeah. What does that mean? I have no idea.

What's Epicureanism? Well, if they said it formally over the top, I don't actually... So, here's what I'm going to look it up now. Monolithic Epicureanism? Yeah. So, the first thing I'm going to look it up now. Monolithic epicureanism. Yeah. So the first thing I'm going to tell you is that I have absolutely no memory. No shame.

Absolutely no memory of this. So I remember playing in a team called Over the Top. Mike Hale's got it. Okay. What is it? Epicureanism. I just Mike Hale's got it. Okay, what is it? Epicureanism. I just lost it. It was there. Okay, here we go.

Oh, okay. So Epicureanism, an ancient school of philosophy founded in Athens by Epicurus. The school rejected determinism and advanced and advocated hedonism. So we were about hedonism, but also monolithic. So I guess it was meant to be about the juxtaposition of two competing ideas.

You can't hear this right now, everyone, but I'm shaking my head. You little turds. Like precocious little turds. So the first thing I'm going to say is, to set the scene, I remember over the top. I remember us competing as over the top, but this is why the year of this has been bothering me

because I assume that I'm about to learn about another time in my life that I have absolutely no memory of, which is the year after over the top, where the two guys who were in the older year have moved on. So the year would be 1991. I am in year 12. But apparently, we formed another theatre sports team with some other people. And what I've got to tell you about that, Charlie, is I have absolutely no memory of this ever happening.

And now I'm fucking all in up until this point i was like oh yeah someone else has got a perspective on something that a story that i've already told on the podcast but you are literally about to read me something that i probably am going to be learning about at the same time as the audience is learning about which is both exciting and terrifying all right let's dive back in shall we your team formerly over the top now monolithic epicureanism and i had finally risen through the ranks of a of shitty sail catholic college teams from the previous years to captain our representative squads does that ring true you're're a captain? I mean, sure. Why not? And you guys were the champions to beat.

After an evening of games, the field had been eliminated down to you guys and us. Your team played first. Bringing the house down with a freaking tight three minutes and scoring high with the judges, requiring us to play a stellar last game so in the spirit of all great kind of sport movies or you know music films eight mile or whatever it's a big showdown at the end you're the cobra kai this dude is scrappy scrappy little uh daniel sun just just trying to just trying to compete with the big boys this motherfucker this motherfucker is the mighty ducks and i'm yeah yeah okay and you're the bad guy i imagine like imagine while this is going on like you and all your your theater sports dudes are strutting around like

and after you do you like you're high-fiving each other and stuff and like really chest out just like peacocking back and forth waiting for these guys to get up they're probably all wearing they don't even have like school uniforms they're probably all wearing, they don't even have school uniforms. They're probably mismatched outfits. One kid's really overweight. One of them's got really thick glasses. There's a girl on the team. They're a ragtag bunch of misfits.

That's how I'm imagining this. Yeah, and also, if you were doing the movie of this, it's perfect. Because we were the ragtag bunch. We were over the top. But now we've gone all fucking, we think we're too smart for our own good. We're monolithic epicureanism for fuck's sake you know yeah really and this you know poor kid who you know has felt cheated over the years he's finally the captain of his high school theater sports team you know he's like he's been mocked all through high school

for his interest in the mandolin and now now finally, his other love, improvisation, has brought him to the top. He's got some new theatre sports coach who's been appointed by a judge because he had a drink driving qualification and he got sentenced to coach a high school theatre sports team. They bonded over the fact that his initials are AA and this guy had been sent to AA. It's a beautiful story. Yeah.

Yeah, maybe it was a misunderstanding. This coach got sent to AA, but instead of going to Alcoholics Anonymous, he just turned up at Aaron's house. Happens all the time. Okay, so Aaron continues. Our turn was up, and I remember we were nominated by the compere to play a rhyming game, something I was terrible at, and the first minute showed as I stumbled from one shitty non-rhyme

to the next. So that's awesome. This is what I'm going to say about that, is that's not a fucking theatre sports game. That is, as you have already explained, a high school punishment. They've got to the final round round and they've been given this. If you're making the movie about this, you'd have them being taught by the teacher

who shamed people into singing and rhyming. And then in the final moment of this theatre sports game, he'd be shamed into doing the thing that so embarrassed him up to this point. It's the wax on, wax off of theatre sports. Like when he was being punished by his teacher, he didn't realise why he was being made to do this rhyming game, but this teacher was trying to prepare him for a greater battle yet to come.

Yeah, it's Karate Kid meets 8 Mile, but with theatre sports. Sounds like the worst movie ever. As I stumbled from one shooting on right to the next. I can imagine that at the pitch meeting. You're like, it's Karate Kid. And the executives are like, oh, this is good. We like the Karate Kid franchise.

Go on, go on. It's eight mile. And then suddenly they're up in the air. Yes, yes, yes. Set in the world of competitive sports. Have this man killed. Have this man killed. Have this man killed. That's when the trap door just opens up.

As I stumbled from one shitty non-rhyme to the next, the audience was audibly shifting uncomfortably. Oh, no. Now, the words he chose to use are very important here because he's saying the audience audibly shifted uncomfortably. It's not that they were talking or sniggering. He could hear them moving in their chairs. It was that awkward.

It was making people squirm. The audience shifting uncomfortably. I took the whole team down with me. It was a disaster. The longest three minutes of my teenage years. It came time for the judges' score. We won. 12 to 15.

Somehow we won. Our teams came together to shake hands, and you said to me, and I'll never forget, I can't believe you guys got a 12 for that. He goes on. Always telling it like it is, Charlie, even if I don't remember it. He goes on. You say, I can't believe you got a 12 for that.

He goes, me neither, dude. I should point out at this point that it doesn't surprise me that we lost this because there was a state final involved the year before that we had been to. And when I told the original story, we had a very similar moment where we got a game that we were no good at and froze at the state final. We had to play this thing called scene without a question

where you have to do a normal scene, but you're just not allowed to ask any questions. And I think the first two things we said is what is that and the next person said so i think i think three of us were eliminated in the first like minute of a three minute game so this poor guy essentially had to do an entire monologue by himself without asking a question so i understand the idea that theater sports is a cruel mistress but i also remember not going to the state final again so the idea that we lost this thing i can't remember uh certainly doesn't surprise me but i feel like there's more to this story charlie

our teams came together to shake hands and you said to me and i'll never forget i can't believe you guys got a 12 for that. Me neither, dude. As the crowd cleared, I approached the judges and I asked them about the final score, admitting to them that we didn't deserve it. The celebrity judge said, oh yeah, sure. They were great, but in the end, you guys were the best team overall all night. So ultimately we decided you're going to Melbourne, no matter how the last game went.

The night was rigged for us to win in the end. It should have been yours. How do you feel about that, Will? Wow. I mean, okay. This is, okay, firstly, this is actually blowing my mind a little bit because I had no memory of this. And now, like, this is weird because this is like, I've been very lucky in my life and i don't feel like a you know great amount of injustices have been done to me um and i've just found out that one was i was i was an injustice has been done to me and and my uh high school theater sports team uh monolithic Epicureanism.

But at the same time, you know, that path brought me to where I am now, Charlie. And what if we had gone to that state final as monolithic Epicureanism? And perhaps, you know, with the experience we'd had from the previous year, you know, stepped up to a higher level of monolithic Epicureanism. And perhaps we'd maybe even won the state level of monolithic epicureanism and perhaps we'd maybe even won the state final of monolithic epicureanism well you know what we would have done then we would have gone let's go on hey hey it's saturday we should do red faces as monolithic epicureanism and then we'd be like you know we'd be in this group that like that we met at high school and

suddenly like we're professional improvisers i mean that's not a path that i wanted to pursue with my life charlie especially if you went into red faces doing blackface yeah yeah that was our that was our that was your closer the jackson drive yeah well like hi we're our monolithic epicureanism and uh for us every week is book week. That's an obscure joke by the way. I should explain to any of our listeners who don't understand that reference. It's one of my favorite references because every year in Australia. Hey,

we hope you've been enjoying this episode of Tofop. It's a bloody delight and it's Australian podcasting staple. And if you want to make that staple part of your diet, Mason. Yep. Just staple it right in. Just a big bowl of staples. Just chow down on a big bowl of staples.

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Or you do. Go on. See you in hell, everyone. Yeah, see you in hell, everyone.