The Weekly Planet - X-Men: The Last Stand REDUX - Caravan Of Garbage
Episode Date: May 10, 2026The only logical solution to wrap up our look at the original X-Men trilogy is a updated re-release of our Caravan Of Garbage review from 2019. Sure Bryan Singer is now gone (for now) but luckily Bre...tt "The Rat" Ratner has stepped in to take his place to conclude the stories of Wolverine, Gene Grey, Professor X, Magnet, Storm, Cyclops and many more characters that would continue to never die and re-appear in future prequels and sequels. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan and Garbage,
where sometimes we take an old video and repackage them
because it makes more sense if you have the three movies in a row
as opposed to having them seven years apart.
Absolutely.
Anyways, here's that video.
It's X-Men 3.
Yeah, there might be some alterations or whatever, I don't know.
Times have changed.
Times have changed.
Well, we haven't.
I hope not.
If anything, we've gotten worse.
We've turned to that sludge, jelly sludge man.
Jelly Sludgeman from X-Men.
Yeah.
X-1.
That's right.
We're getting another Dark Phoenix story, Mason.
Good.
But who could forget the very first Dark Phoenix story.
And I'm not talking about the Comics Mason.
But that was the first one.
I'm not talking about the Comics Mason.
What are you talking about?
I'm of course talking about X-Men 3, the last stand.
Oh, right.
Yeah, this came out in 2006.
It capped off the original X-Men trilogy.
It doesn't feel like a 2006 movie.
What does it feel like to you?
It's like a 1999 movie.
Well, let's just say a lot of these X-Men movies have carried over certain traits from earlier
X-Men films.
And there are people out there going, it does feel like a 1999 movie.
Oh, not in 2002.
You better believe it.
Okay, I'll say this of this movie.
It's universally hated.
Yes.
I don't think it's that much worse
than the previous to X-Men movies.
I don't think it's better.
No.
But I think on the whole,
it's on par in a lot of ways.
I think so too, yeah.
Yeah.
That's not a stirring endorsement.
No, I mean, there's some low points, I think.
Yes.
I was going to say, there's some low points,
but there's low points in the other movies.
There really aren't that many low points in the other movies.
Especially two.
Two's quite good.
But the thing is,
the production of this went through
a tumultuous time.
Okay, I'm ready to hear about it.
It ended up being directed by Brett Ratner,
Brett the Rat Ratratt.
The Rat, who, like Brian Singer,
who directed the previous ones.
Punch in the face entertainment or whatever is...
That's right.
Production companies called.
Yeah, apparently,
neither of them, not very nice men for different reasons.
But they offered the director's job to Darren Aronofsky,
who worked with Hugh Jackman on the fountain.
Right.
Josh Whedon, but he was working on Wonder Woman.
Alex Pryoros,
how did he say that guy's name?
Who?
The guy who did Dark City.
Oh, Proyos.
Proyos, thank you.
But he was feuding with Fox.
Okay.
And he wanted to make gods of Egypt and kings of gods of men of Egypt?
Okay, I just want to pause just to be like, whatever the sentence you were trying to say there, I cannot believe it.
He wanted to make gods of Egypt.
Have you seen gods of Egypt?
I have not.
I'm not.
Look, it's ridiculous.
Look, it's kind of a fun watch.
If you skimming it, if you're doing something else, put on gods of Egypt and just come in every once in a while and be like, that's ridiculous.
Okay, back to the ironing.
Like a big hawk costume, but it's like Ironman's over a person?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good movie.
Bloody Jeffrey Rush is there to stop the monster eating the sun or something?
Who's eating the sun?
A monster.
Don't be it in the sun.
Sorry.
How big is this monster?
Who are big, big enough to eat the sun?
Well, you'd hope so.
Yeah.
No, but he was feuding with Fox.
Zach Snyder, but he was doing 300.
Okay.
Peter Berg turned it down and actually hired Matthew Vaughn, who ended up doing X-Men first class,
which I believe is one of the best X-Men movies.
Agreed.
But he left due to time constraints.
He was like, well, I can't get this done in the allotted time period.
So I'm out.
But he actually did first class in less of time to do the movie.
But he did it.
Terrific.
So we got Brett the Rat Ratratt.
Oh, yes.
But was doing nothing.
That's right.
He was just floating around in like a big inflatable donut in his pool in his backyard.
And I'm like, hey, Ratner, you want to do a movie?
And he's like, all right.
What's a movie?
Oh, no, I'll figure it out on the day.
Don't even worry about it.
I think you might have been coming off the back of Superman Flyby.
Oh, another run produced Superman.
Yeah, which wasn't getting done.
But the reason Ryan Singer didn't do this movie is because he went to make Superman returns.
Right.
So, but we'll get into more of the fallout of that a bit later.
This was the first time I'd seen digital de-aging.
Yeah, right?
It's not very good, is it?
But I would argue it's better than X-Men Origins Wolverine first class.
Agreed. Yep.
100%.
Gambit.
Yes.
Gambit origin.
100%.
Yeah.
But I remember the time.
thinking, that's a neat trick.
Like, I like that.
And I think it was also, like, I forgive it in the sense that it seems to be, it almost
feels like it's kind of a surreal sepia tone fast, where it's like, did this past even
happen kind of thing?
So I'm okay with it kind of being glossy.
No, because they retconned everything maybe.
Well, it's true.
It's true.
Oh, it's always 12 steps ahead, you know.
He knew they were going to retcon it into a future past situation.
Yeah, it always do.
But, yeah, look, it's not good.
But the funny thing is, I think there is a charm to that de-aging because of the
is one of the first times, if not the first time.
And also, it's funny, the methods of de-aging a person hasn't really changed since back then.
You put Vaseline on the lens.
That's all you need to do.
Your film is normal.
Spray their hair dark, go for your life.
But it really is, it's just, it's like virtual surgery.
It's just like pinning back areas on the face.
And they've just got better at doing it.
Yeah, right.
If you look at like modern Marvel movies, for example, it's pretty flawless now.
Yeah, right.
Uh-huh.
But, yeah, it's pretty much the same technique.
And all that, I mean, and they just, they do it based on, you know, the hundreds of hours
of Jean-Luc Picard.
Yes, that's right.
In Star Trek, the next generation.
So here's an element of the story
which I like but is completely disregarded,
almost entirely.
The introduction of Angel as a kid,
not the introduction of Angel from X-Men Apocalypse,
Dark Origins.
It's where he's like grating off his angel wings in the bathroom.
Terrific.
It is, yeah.
There's elements of the story that I'm like,
maybe if you just focused on that one thing,
it would have made a good movie
instead of doing like Origin of Angel
and Dark Phoenix.
Yeah.
And the mutant cure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's the, I feel that's the downfall of a lot of, I mean, probably also kind
of superhero movies to this day.
But I feel especially sort of in the early days of modern superhero movies, you know,
you're Spider-Man's and your X-Men's, is they went, like, well, we have 30 plus years
of continuity for these characters.
We don't know what to put on screen.
Yeah.
Let's put everything on screen.
Like, you know, and I've often said this about the Spider-Man movies, is that Spider-Man
is often considered like, he's a fun, happy-go-lucky character.
and every one, you know, every 10 years something tragic happens to him.
Yeah.
But in the Sam Ramey's Spider-Man movies, everything tragic,
they just compacted it in to like six hours.
They went every, everything bad that's happened.
Let's show it.
Let's show it all kind of thing.
But he's still got the quips, doesn't he?
Yeah, barely.
Yeah, barely doesn't know.
Because he's so sad.
Yeah.
But you're right.
Because his bike wheel went out the window.
Yeah, of course.
In Spider-Man too.
Couldn't pay his rent.
I like, yeah.
Yeah.
But like, and this is the same where it's like,
okay, we do have so many sagas to get through.
and we just can't wait.
So let's throw them all in there, which does...
Let's do them all so we've got no ideas in the future.
And it does a disservice to all of them.
And then, again, it drains the brains trust
so that in 10 to 15 years time,
they just have to do the Dark Phoenix saga again.
That's right, exactly.
It does have the introduction of the live-action danger room,
which is just a big unrealistic hologram room.
But it's the near future or whatever.
This came back in 2006.
I guess it's 2010.
I guess it's ever that far ahead.
Yeah.
There's a moment where Wolverine cuts the head off a sentinel and then he throws it and it lands and it spins and then he steps out behind it.
But if you watch that entire shot, he's never on it.
Okay, right.
He's not on the back of it.
No, he's crawling really fast around it.
No, he's not doing that.
He's not doing that.
He's skulking like a cockroach around the head.
Did you go back and forth on that?
Yeah, I did.
Is this yours a prud of film?
You're like, back and to the left.
Back and to the left.
Nope, he's never on there.
Everyone said I was crazy, but he's never been on there.
I remember being impressed that they included the Sentinels, but it's really not a good representation, and they still haven't really done it properly.
No, I mean, we got the Days of Future Past Sentinel.
Yeah.
I don't mind the future ones because that's what they would evolve to.
Yeah.
But the 60s or 70s ones are kind of like, this is a bad design.
That's the perfect time to have giant multi shades of purple.
I agree.
100 foot tall sandals.
I agree.
The swing in 60s.
Yes.
Here's the amount of things that I like.
I'm ready.
Kelsey Grammar is excellently cast.
I agree.
As beast.
Nicholas Holt, I'm sure he's fine.
This guy's way better.
You sure he's fine?
Well, he's mostly just Nicholas Holt.
He's like, I got a serum.
I got a serum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's always just got a serum.
I feel the post-first-class X-Men universe is just various actors who are now, you know,
a little bit too popular and expensive for these movies going,
just say I have a serum, actually.
Just I have a serum, because I don't want to wear any of this.
I don't want to put any of this makeup.
I will spend 15 minutes in the makeup chair.
Just say I've got a serum.
Well, Alan Cummings, who played Nightcrawler was like, I'm not coming back to sit to make a
24 hours.
Angel, I think, is cast well, but again, it's pointless.
That's Ben Foster, right?
From 310 to you?
I like that guy.
Yeah.
What I find interesting about that moment where they go to cure Ben Foster, where Ben Foster's dad's
like, Ben Foster, you're a real ugly bloke.
Am I going to get you in this chair?
Look at yourself, mate.
He's beautiful.
That man is literally an angel.
You're just some middle-aged slump-shouldered, dumpy-looking idiots.
Yeah, right.
And my son's a freak.
You're a fucking freak.
Look at this guy.
He's amazing.
He can fucking fly.
And what's interesting, I also feel is like, this is right on the cusp, I think.
And this is, I think, part of the reason maybe the X-Men feel a little bit dated in this era.
Because this is just on the cusp of like, if social media existed and you had wings and you could fly, you wouldn't be cutting them off.
No.
You'd be flying on, you'd be bloody flying on bloody Snapchat.
Absolutely.
You'd be flying on bloody.
You'd be flying on vine.
He'd be swinging off bloody vine.
You'd be swinging on vines.
Yeah.
You'd be rich.
You'd have a reality TV show based around you.
You definitely...
The man who has angel wings and can fly.
And abs.
Yeah, and abs.
Such good abs.
He does have good abs.
And they'd be like, what do you think about other mutants?
You'd be like, I've never met me.
It's just, as far as I'm concerned, it's just me, a beautiful man with abs who can fly.
There's, of course, the inclusion of other mutants, which aren't as good.
I'm going to go through some.
I'm ready.
Colossus in a horrible muscle.
suit.
Yep.
In a hilarious Vidi Jodd's performance.
I think,
do you mean,
you mean juggernaut?
Oh,
sorry, yeah.
Closses is good.
I think this guy's fine,
actually.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, you're right.
Yes, the thing that you said.
What do you think of the Vidi Jones muscle suit,
mortar and pestle bowl head?
Bad, weird,
hate it.
And just put in because people wanted the juggernaut because he was a meme at
that point, I think.
He's the juggernaut.
He's the juggernaud bitch.
Yeah, precisely.
Yeah, good.
There's throw bones out of his wrists, guys.
Oh, yeah.
Who Wolverine fights in the fight.
Some sort of riff on the character Marrow.
Yeah, I believe so.
There's one inch spikes guy who somehow has ingratiated himself in the top tier
Magneto group of mutants.
Again, if you haven't seen this movie, it's a guy whose whole power, he's some sort
of a kid in a guy.
His whole skill is like one inch worth of spikes come out all over his body.
So he's a lethal combatant if he can get to within one inch of you and maybe he's
cradling you in a hug maybe.
And you're really lean because otherwise if you had a little bit of mass on you,
wouldn't get through you. Maybe they're poisoned? They didn't say that. Yeah, right. Also,
he could just have them on his hands there. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't need to bring you in a hug,
does he? No. Yeah, so he needs to give you a big hug. Yeah. I presume they're not poisoned.
Mm-hmm. And, okay, because you look at that group that he's got, he's got a dude who can manipulate
fire. He's obviously magnet. There's no explanation required. He's a big magnet.
Mystique, who loses their powers, but again, amazing mutant. Picks up the new one that can fly.
Yeah. I'm not going to fly, but can run real fast. Like a quick silver one. Yep. And there's one that
Multiple man is there.
Multiple man's amazing.
Again, underused.
Yep.
So one that could be silent.
Yeah.
And then you've got one in a spike guy.
Then you've got one in spite guy.
How did he get in there?
He just got a few tattoos and went, yeah, this is a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, look, if I wanted to, I could spray these spikes out for hundreds of feet in every direction.
But I'd save that up.
So just put me in the inner circle.
And when it comes to the crunch, when all the chips are down, when bloody, all the X men are coming and get you.
And there's no metal.
So you're vulnerable.
I'm going to do the shoot.
spikes out from all directions.
Don't even worry about it.
Don't even worry about it.
And they're probably poisonous.
They're definitely probably poisonous.
I mean, I'm obviously immune to the poison so I can, you know, I can do this all day.
Yeah.
But you'd be poisoned.
Yeah.
Obviously.
But you mentioned is that person Siloak or whatever.
There's a lot of, is that person supposed to be the actual version of that character?
Yeah.
Because there's Trask, who looks nothing like the Trask who shows up in later movies.
There's Colossus has obviously been recast for Deadpool, but who cares because Deadpool lives
in his own space.
Moira McTaggett shows up as the doctor who has Professor X's twin
you don't think it's his twin but it's his twin and isn't Roseburn
And isn't Roseburn
But that doesn't really matter
There's Angel again because the timeline and even though they fix the timeline
It's not fixed.
It's always been junk
We've got a video on it if you want to check it out
I think what you said the explanation for this is
If you sort of remember the last movie
That's all you need to know
Exactly if you sort of remember the last one you go
Oh yeah remember that actor did this or this character did this
But if you go back one more you go
But wait a minute he was torn at pieces in the last movie
Why is he back together?
I don't know.
You know, okay, here's something I do like at this.
I really like how they handle, where they do briefly handle it,
that Professor X completely fucked it with the Dark Phoenix thing.
Like he built the mental barriers in her mind.
And then Wolverine's like, what are you doing that for me?
He's like, you don't understand.
I'm up here taking grenades.
You know what I'm talking about?
And then he gets his come up and so I guess because he explodes or whatever, you know,
because you reap what you sow.
Yeah, right.
And if you telepathically block a firebird presence from space
or maybe not from space,
then maybe that person will explode you one day.
Absolutely.
As the metaphor goes.
That's precisely it.
Yeah.
James Marsden...
It goes right and comes around.
That's right.
And it's fire birds and tear in it to bits.
That's right.
James Marsden famously left this movie to be made cuck of in another superhero movie.
Yes, for sure.
I don't like using that word.
But that's what he said.
That's a direct quote from him.
He said, look, I've had a lot of fun and it's a great working with these people,
but I just want to be a cuck in another superhero movie.
So, yeah, so he gets his, yeah, he gets his love of his life stolen by Superman and this.
It was, she was stolen by Wolverine.
Although she chooses Scott in the end, doesn't she or something?
Yeah.
Doesn't matter.
And then she explodes him or whatever happens to him.
It's not important.
He comes back because of time travel later.
He does come back, but again, it's left very ambiguous.
Because it's assumed he's dead in this movie.
Yeah.
But you never see a body and you never see a flashback.
No.
You just see his visor.
Yeah.
Maybe she'd teleported him somewhere else.
We'll never know.
He's Oakley's.
Yeah, he's Oakleys.
That's right.
Yeah, exactly.
speed dealers.
But yeah, we never,
because we never come back to this timeline, really.
Yeah.
I mean, he gets undestroyed at the end of Days of Future Past.
Yeah, he's back.
But we don't know.
With some even speedier speed dealers on.
Yeah, boy, does he.
But also, it's at that point we don't know
whether the Dark Phoenix saga happened,
like which version of it happened.
Yeah, right.
But I guess it's this new one that happened.
Yeah.
Right?
I guess.
I guess.
Yeah.
So does that,
does the final sequence in Days of Future Past,
side note,
take place after the events of the new.
The New Dark Phoenix.
I guess.
Unless they're all killed, in which case they've broken the timeline again.
Good work.
Great stuff.
Look, I don't want to make any assumptions.
I don't want to assume the worst, but they're going to break the timeline and ruin it again.
The last one.
It doesn't matter.
X-Men ghost school was never coming out, remember?
Yeah, okay, I get it.
Disney are going to bury it.
Good.
It's got my favorite comic book trope from 2002 to 2013, which is a truck flip.
Oh, yeah, so good.
They can't stop doing a truck flip.
Again, we're just truck and train drivers in this universe.
They just have a little handbook next to him.
And it says, what happens if you see a guy in front of you on the train tracks
and he's putting his hand up in a threatening manner?
And you just go through it.
And you go, okay, well, he's wearing a lot of metal.
So maybe he's got magnetic power.
So let's go through here.
Okay.
He's not protected by anything.
That's probably some kind of force-filled situation.
Do you think he's an illusion?
Is he flickering?
What's going on?
Just hit the brakes.
Just hit the brakes.
So, yeah, there's a track flip.
It looks good for track flips, to be fair.
What another thing I do think looks good in this is the destruction of Gene Gray's childhood home.
Yeah, okay, that does look good.
Like it's all kind of shattering and, you know, it's shaking and the water's pouring upside down, etc, and so forth.
There's a great cowboy switch when Wolverine gets thrown through the roof.
Oh, yes.
And then a stunt actor drops back through the other side.
Oh, yes.
I think it's quite good.
And I really like the Professor X being exploded effect.
And I think it's also like, I like that character.
Yeah, for sure.
Despite a lot of these movies.
Some of them are good.
And I like him.
And it was, you know, it was two and a half movies in the lead-up.
It wasn't like, we're just going to blow him up.
Yeah.
And of course, he had been removed from the game in both previous movies.
Professor X.
Professor X, but in this one, yeah, you're like, well, okay, he's a good character
and he's not always right, but he does, you know, he has, he's a character we can believe in,
and then bam, dead.
And now he's in all our mouths.
Yeah, at $210 million, this is the most expensive movie ever made at the time.
I thought you were going to say, at 210 minutes.
Like, wow, this was actually a breeze.
This wasn't so bad.
Great line is a good line when they moved the bridge, the bridge from full house, which is what
I call it, across.
That's what they call.
That's what the island called.
What's the island called they go to?
The island.
Is it supposed to be Alcatraz?
It's called the island that you get to from the bridge from full house.
That's what it's called.
There's a plaque.
If you move the bridge.
If you move the bridge.
If we were to move the bridge.
I don't think you needed to move the bridge, quite frankly.
But he moved the bridge.
And he goes, Charles always wanted to build bridges.
Terrible line.
First of all, you're not building anything.
You moved a bridge.
If you said Charles was wants to move the bridge.
You what happened is he moved the bridge
and then all his followers looked up at him
like expecting a big line
and he just sort of made the best of a bad situation.
And there was tepid applause.
Yeah, okay.
I guess so, yeah.
Bridge.
Yeah.
You said bridge.
There's another bit where Magneto goes,
humans and their guns
because he thinks they've got metal guns
and they've got plastic guns.
Is he not earlier who's like,
Wolverine,
can smile you out of mantium, you stink to high heavens.
You can't tell if somebody's holding a metal gun.
You don't know that.
Oh, that's a good question.
That's all I'm saying.
Maybe they were carrying like a whole bunch of fishing weights in their pockets to trick him.
He's like, there seems like there's a lot of metal over there.
Yep, get a chance of with this line.
Oh, no.
This is the bit that I remember you talking about at the time that you did like, the last
battle is just generic mutants running in.
Oh, yeah.
Like they all can teleport.
Yeah.
They all have one-inch spikes.
Yeah.
They're all like, I'm going to shoot out my spikes any second now.
Yeah.
And there's some of them, which I don't mind that stand out,
there's the guy who Wolverine keeps cutting his arms off.
Yeah, right.
And he's like, come on.
Yeah, right.
Come on.
And he kicks him in the balls.
That's pretty good.
That's great stuff.
But yeah, like it didn't.
Come on.
Yeah, no, I get it.
But it's kind of like, yeah, it's like, well,
they just had the teleport effect.
Yeah.
On their computers.
And they were like, like, the bamf.
The bamf.
A bamp.
Let's just put in some more bamps.
No, give us.
Let's put them all in black leather.
Yeah, that's right.
They're always in black leather running at each other, aren't they?
That's true, yeah.
But it's mutant on mutant.
And the kid, he's a cure.
Is he leech?
He's kind of leechish, yes.
Yeah, yeah, great.
I like Iceman versus Pyrro.
Me too.
I think it's a good payoff to a character,
well, both of which were in the first one,
but Pyrro was played by a different actor.
Yes.
Yes.
And it was a good payoff,
and we finally got the evolution of Iceman
into the full kind of comic book,
man built from ice,
that we never see again.
That's right.
So that's pretty great, right?
No, I think he does it in days of future past.
And then he's melted down or whatever in the future.
But yeah, good on your ice man.
Nice.
And great ice skating on the fly.
Yeah, he is.
We all, I'm impressed with you.
And your twin brother.
Red hot applause.
Red hot.
What do you think about the Magneto's gets tricked by Wolverine
and gets stabbed with the cure?
And then he's like, now I'm just like everybody else.
What do you think about that?
Well, I think, again, I think the plot had to go that way.
Yeah.
They were like, all right, we've got to have Magneto lose his powers at the end.
So let's just...
Oh, does he?
I mean, he does.
But he doesn't.
But does he?
But he does initially.
Well, he does initially.
But then in the next movie, they're like, well, we need him to have his powers back.
Yeah.
But also, of course, in what is...
What's not a post-credit saying?
Yes.
But there's that he moves the chest bit at the very, very end.
As Angel is flying over and people are like, who the fuck is that?
He is amazing.
I bet his dad's a real huger.
But that guy, he's got a beaut.
Well, actually, the twist there originally was a magneto.
The chest piece was actually made of wood.
And it turns out,
Magneto's powers have evolved.
Now, he's Woodnito now.
What about Magwoodo? Does that work?
Yeah, that works as well.
The next movie's him just deciding on what name to use.
Excellent.
Big wooden helmet?
Yeah.
Great.
Gene dies.
Yep.
And that's fine.
And I don't care.
All I was thinking the whole time was,
how come Wolverine's pants didn't disintegrate?
Everything else on his.
Like, his whole X-Men outfit came off and his skin's coming off.
Yeah.
I can see his metal skeleton underneath.
You wanted to see his metal.
don't think he have a metal dong underneath yes does he have a metal dong i don't think he does
i think he does that's one for the ages i don't think he does just to clarify yeah look i
think this is oh there's a post credits where professor x is back who cares yep he just is
i think this is fine i don't think it's atrocious no i don't think it's atrocious i think it'd be
atrocious now if you released it now.
Yeah.
Which may be what the new Dark Phoenix,
I haven't seen it yet.
I bet there's a bloody truck flip or a train flip in it.
No, there's no way there's not a train flip.
There's a train twirl even.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Okay, there you go.
Mixing it up.
Yeah.
They're taking all sorts of different degrees of action.
Yeah, what do you think of this though?
Again, it's better than Spider-Man 3.
It is better than Spider-Man 3.
But again, it's a product of its time and it's a superhero movie.
I don't know.
It just feels like that that way of making these movies is gone now.
Yeah.
We can't go back to it, I don't think.
It feels dated and it feels incomplete and kind of just clunky.
Despite being $210 million, it feels cheap in parts a lot of the time.
Because I'd imagine a lot of that money went into, well, we've got to get Halliberry back.
So we've got to give her $15 million or whatever.
Yeah.
She dropped that storm accent, didn't she pretty quickly?
She did, yeah.
Yeah.
I do like the new storm wig every movie.
I'm like, what kind of wig is storm going to have this stuff around?
She's a lady of fashion.
She's got to have that new wig.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm there for me.
it. I appreciate it. The other thing is a lot of these movies, and this is no exception,
one of the producers on this is Kevin Fagie. And a lot of the mistakes that he saw that these
movies made, he then didn't make for the MCU. So he was there for like a lot of these early
days, X-Men movies and Spider-Movies and Spider-Rubes. Don't hire Brian Singer. That's right.
Don't hire Brett Rattner. Yeah. And obviously that's been carried on, you know, for the 11 years
of Marvel movies that they've been as of so far. So look, even if you hate this, at least we got better
movies as a result because somebody didn't hire Brett Ratner.
Very true.
For their movies.
And that's X-Men first day.
Last Stand.
Last Stand.
Very confusing.
That wasn't a bit.
I genuinely couldn't remember.
They should have called it first last stand.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I bet they just couldn't wait to use those three Wolverine claws in the most of this.
Oh, my goodness.
I bet we'll find out later that X-Men 1 and 2 didn't make any money and they're just like,
well, we've got to just push it through.
Just push three through.
want to see the three claws to make the three.
Exactly.
Oh my God.
And this one isn't making any money,
but just push it through to X-Men 6.
You want to see him double fist those claws.
Which one is X-Men 6?
So the next one's Origins.
Are we counting Wolverines, spinoff?
Yeah, I guess so.
Then I don't know.
I refuse to think it's...
Origins and then first class
and then the Wolverine, I want to say?
Yeah.
Maybe that's...
You could double-clords that.
Yeah.
On the Wolverine 6th.
Yeah, and then it stays a future past.
That's right.
Fantastic.
Wow, what an incredible trip down memory
Lane. What do you mean? We didn't
re-listen to that. I did. I had to
for the video to make sure it was all
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embraced capitalism. We've tried to.
Yeah, it's laid us in. Is it working?
We would like a slice of the pie.
Give us some stuff. Please.
Carl Marx, boo. That's what I say. Is that the magic word that let us in?
You've done it, Mason. We think boo for him.
We think boo and we're glad he's dead. He wore shoes. He's a hypocrite.
Did he? Yeah. Who made those shoes? People, no doubt, for money?
Yeah. How'd he pay for them? With a job? Yeah. Yeah.
And there's also comic book clubs, which are also a video now, which are just incredible.
We look at a famous, sometimes famous, or just a comic that we like or don't like.
That's right.
It's whatever is it.
Correct.
Thank you so much to whoever edited this.
I think my even maybe edited this one years ago.
I don't know.
Well, well done you.
Thanks.
And probably Colenks who put this all together.
All right.
Let's get out of here.
All right.
Let's do it.
What do you think of X-Men 3?
I can't remember.
I don't know, man.
Madrox is in it, I remember.
He is in it.
Multiple men.
That's good.
A guy's jumping over a bridge or whatever.
Yeah, there's a truck flip.
Yeah, yeah.
Beast.
God.
We haven't changed.
changed at all.
Absolutely not.
