The Weekly Planet - X2: X-Men United - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

By 2003 superhero movies were well back in vogue. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man from 2002 had become a massive hit, a serious Batman reboot was in the works and of course we got the return of Bryan Singer's (yuck) X-Men franchise with X2: X-Men United. All your favourites are back! Storm, Cyclops, Ice Boy, Rogue, Magnet, Wheels, Gene Grey, all in support of whatever Hugh Jackman's Wolverine wants to do. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravanagh Garbage where we're taking a look at X2, X-Men 2, X2 times. The best one, some people say. It probably is of these original batch of X-Men movies. Oh, yes, good caveats there. Those are some super caveats for a superhero movie. I tell you what, it's got a cracking opening in the White House. Some say it's the best movie opening for an action scene superhero movie scene ever.

Top screen rant, top list of top 10 action movie opening sequences. So an AI who wrote that article thinks that. That's right. Is that what you're telling me? That's right. And the best ending since the Dark Night Rise is what happened there. Who knows? Who even knows?

How did he survive? Please leave a like because by... He fixed the autopilot. He did. That's what he did. He mentions it earlier. It's heavily implied that he was going to fix the autopilot. Anyway, here's a hundred articles about that.

In 2003, Bay said. Yes. At this point, we've had original Spider-Man. Yes. Daredevil had just come out. Oh, De-devil. Hulk was later that year. Alex G was on the way.

Oh, hell yeah. This was an absolute peak time to release something like this. And they did. And they did it happen. It's undeniable. Over here, I think it was just called X-Men 2. I think it was. I think you're right, yeah.

I have no confirmation for that. Maybe I have the DVD somewhere, just it's X-Men 2 on it. Maybe. I'm not going to check. You're going to dig that up for us? Nope, not going to check. Fantastic. Not going to go under the house to find the waterlog box of DVDs.

No, I'm not going to do that. So yeah, as mentioned, cracking opening in the White House with Nightcrawler, you know, taking on all the secret service and whatnot. I think the precursor to the Quicksilver scene in X-Men Days of Future Past, I think when they went to make that movie, they went, how do we beat this scene? And look, one of the things that they did in this movie that they didn't do in the Quicksilver sequence is dye a man so blue that the scalp under his hair is visibly blue. That's how deep they went. Alan Cummings' brain is probably still blue from this makeup. That's right, exactly. Sometimes he sneezes and just blue pigment comes out.

He's like, oh, lordy. We'll talk about it later, but he hated working on this movie. And yet he's back apparently for something. Well, yeah, the reason why is because this was like a five-hour process to get him in this. And then with the shirtless scene, that was even more. But now they can just do it. He can just come in in leisure wear and they'll CGI over the top of it. No, they're not doing it like that apparently.

It's 90 minutes. Oh, not bad. It's from Woe to Go. Wow. Because his woe, whoa, I wish I was Nightcrawler. Go, I am Nightcrawler. Wow. I'm having a great time.

He could almost watch X-Men 2 in the duration there. Absolutely. Cyclops is back briefly. He's looking good in his high-waisted pants. I hope I live long enough, Mason. Yes. Where these go out of fashion again and then come back round. That's what I want in life for me.

Absolutely. That's my goal. I mean, that's not his favourite type of pant. You know it is. What? Jeans! Jeans! He does love jeans.

He loves jeans. It really feels like at this point also, they were like, Wolverine's the main guy. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. His Hugh Jackman is the main guy. Cyclops could disappear for an hour and 40 minutes. He really does. There's a couple of, upon a rewatch, I mean, Cyclops just disappears. Also, when Gene Gray and Storm go to retrieve Nightcrawler, then they disappear for an hour as well.

They're just gone. Yep, absolutely. But yeah, this is the ear where they're, like, you know who we love, a spindly Wolverine. Because he's still quite spindly. You know the bit where he goes to visit Alkalai Lake right at the start? He's all spindly. I think this is the peak that Hugh Jackman has looked at Wolverine.

Peak physique? Peak physique. He's not too ridiculous in terms of dehydration. Yes. The hair's good, except for the reshoot scenes. There's one at the start before he goes in the facility where it's clearly a wig and it's big and hair sprayed. And then he goes in and it's a more natural look. A big wig and a peak physique?

Exactly. Wow. So that's all good. Also, there's no stripes on his jacket. That's good. There are stripes for them. They're tone on tone. They're tone on tone?

Yeah. I'm happy with that. It's right. Acceptable. Also, he's not indestructible in this. No. I mean, he is more, I mean, he is, because he's a main character, obviously. Every main character in this movie has incredible plot armor.

And this movie also has this interesting piece of plot armor, where if you're a character who's indestructible, bulletproof, or has an incredible healing factor. the bad guys will use lethal rounds on you. But if you don't have that, it's tranquilizer darts all the way. They just know. They must know. They must know. They did their research, didn't they?

It's important to do your own research. I guess it is important to do your own research. I do like Brian Cox as William Stryker, where he goes to the president and he's like, there's a school and it's got a jet under it. And we don't know what the jets made of. And the president's like, I mean, he's got a point. Yeah.

Most schools don't have jets. I mean, some private schools. probably have helicopters. Sure, but they're not under a basketball court. No. Maybe. And if they were, we'd know about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Some of our helicopter pads were, you know, there was some housing for underprivileged children. We bulldoze that. Thank God. We put the helipad in, so that's normal. But under a basketball court, no, no, no. No, thank you. No, no.

So, yeah, he's orchestrated this whole event, the president being attacked. This is based on God loves man kills in case people... Sort of. Yeah, no, we have to say it, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do have to say it, because otherwise people will come to your house.

That's right. Which is good. Stay away from my waterlog DVDs. Stay away from them. Yeah, you've got... They're under the basketball court. You've got Mystique looking into things. Because she's taken on the role of Senator Kelly,

who turned into a jellywater man and disappeared. That's right. She's in Stryker's office trying to figure things out, furiously printing things off. I was going to say this is a pre-U. A sign of the times. A pre-USB era, or you couldn't just put it on a mysterious chip or whatever.

Yeah. They're like, no, she'd have to print this off, wouldn't she? And then how does she get the printing out of the building? Turned it into paper planes? I don't think so. You turn to a guy you put in a bucket. You turn to a guy you put it in a bucket. That's how they used to do corporate espionage.

That's right. Check that man's bucket. You don't have to check that man's bucket. He's the cleaner. Don't worry about it. He's got overalls on. That's an authorised bucket. Don't worry about it.

I will say this of Cyclops. He has a good action sequence, a brief good action sequence before he's disappeared and mind-controlled. That was going to be extended for a bit. where he can't get his hand to his visor. Right. So he has to fight with two night sticks. Oh.

And even the brief like hand-to-hand bit that you get, it's really good. Agreed. And also it's like he would know, right? Like he'd have to, he would be training for other scenarios. He wouldn't just rely on his optic blasts. You wouldn't think so. You'd hope Mason. But again, this is that era where it's like, yeah, if you grew up with this sort of stuff.

You know, if this, if you, if you grew up pushing you around. Exactly. You'd learn to kick them in the head. That's exactly right. With your eyes closed. Mostly, I would imagine. Yeah. But of course, Professor X is in this.

He goes to visit Magnet, who's still in his plastic prison. Stryker did that to him. First of all, I just wanted to ask, this occurred to me the first time around. Who's paying for that plastic wheelchair? Is it us, the taxpayers? Is this some sort of wrought? I think it is. Is that a $50,000 plastic wheelchair that they've built for him specifically so he can visit Magnet?

And then we have to pay for it. We're footing the bill for this. I don't think so. Andy's got that jet. He's got the jet in the in his school. We probably pay for that. Should be illegal, not allowed. Yeah, exactly.

Cut his funding. That's what I'm saying. Well, speaking of that chair, his original chair, like the metal normal one, was bought by a lawyer after the first movie. A lawyer who needed a wheelchair? No, he just wanted the X-Men wheelchair, I guess. Oh, because it has the X-wheel. Yeah, and then they realized that they needed it back, so they had to rent it back off him, according to Patrick Stewart for a significant sum.

What's he doing with that wheelchair? I don't know. Zooming around. I guess he's zooming around. Government benefits. Probably DEI. I guess any time, you know, as a teenager, you found a wheelchair on the street. You and all your friends were just zooming around in it. Remember when that would happen sometimes?

Sure, for sure. Just find a wheelchair? What happened there? Did a miracle happen? Yeah, maybe. Did that person ascend into heaven? Why was there a spare wheelchair in the street at night? It was normally a shopping trolley.

Yeah, it was also often a shopping trolley. Which could have also. been a miracle. Yeah, that's true, yes. Everybody in Australia has seen their mate tumble out of a shopping trolley in the middle of the night. That's true. Oh, I had a note here, can I put this in? It's when Mystique...

We'll put it in now. We'll put it in now for the extended, but I'll place it beautifully later. When Mystique looks at the computer to get all the data so she can print it off. A list of the mutants. Canutio Harada? Excuse me, a mutant? Because we see in The Wolverine,

he's just a regular normal man. Guess what that is? That's a continuity error. That's the one and only continuity error that's ever happened in the X-Men movies. Aren't they embarrassed? Yeah, they should be embarrassed. They are embarrassed.

They learned a lesson, didn't they? Yeah, they did. Never happened again. So, yeah, Mystique gets magneto, magnet, sorry. Mystique gets magnet out of prison by injecting iron into a guard's blood. That's great. Wow, a roofy scene in a Brian Singer movie?

Don't believe it. Roofing a guy in a toilet? What I like about? about that sequence, not the Rufi sequence, the magnet scene and him escaping. Like, he's incredibly dangerous. Only a little bit of metal, and look at him, he's off, isn't he? He's off and having a good time. But look, speaking of Rufi scenes and whatever.

Yes. We've got a few new inclusions in this. We've got Colossus, of course. And we've got Aaron Stanford who takes over the role of Pyrro. By the way, you shouldn't smoke in a food court. You shouldn't smoke in a food court. Piro is right. And also, you shouldn't be a guy who has a zipper and then just makes it their whole personality.

You know one of those guys? Yeah. Because it will come to a head, and as it does in this movie, and also in real life, where somebody goes, could you stop doing that? Could, would you mind? It's actually annoying, actually. It makes a clicky, clicky, we get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Vanity Fair, they wrote an article, and part of that article is in relation to Alex Burton, who played the original pyro in the first movie. Oh, yes. He was 18 at the time of filming, and he ended up filing a lawsuit against three of Brian Singer's friends and associates of the Digital Entertainment Network, which Singer was affiliated with at the time and he claimed that he was plied with drugs sexually assaulted by the trio at a DEN outpost in Encino

held against his will and threatened with physical harm between July 1999 and May 2000 which was when X-Men was in production so if you're like oh why is there a new pyro and they're like yeah we felt like we needed a different actor for the role for whatever not I mean I think it's because of this is what happened probably the crimes the alleged crimes that happened alleged crimes that happened

Yeah. So, you know, that's interesting, isn't it? It's interesting. Yeah, anyway, Professor X, he gets Professor X'd. Yep. And it's the thing you mentioned, you shouldn't smoke in a shopping mall. That shopping mall museum, coffee, cafe, whatever the situation is going on there. I don't buy this Professor Xing, is what I'm saying. Because if Professor X can use his mind powers to freeze everybody in a shopping mall, a shopping mall's worth of people. Sure.

You can't freeze that one guy who's turning on the gas or whatever. He's in a plastic prison. You'd be, or a high alert, you'd be like, is this freaking guy going to hit me with a poison gas? I assume that that seals off his powers because he doesn't know what's happening with Magnet until he gets there. So I think that whole room is Professor X-proof on purpose. It's not an accident, Mason. It's actually not a continuity error. It's a good movie.

Okay, all right. All right, their continuity error still at one. Still at one. That's fine. Okay, great. Anyways, we've got to get back to Wolverine because this is what the movie is about. Correct. Zavia's been meddling in Wolverine's mind. And by that I mean, he goes, you should go to this facility to figure out what's going on.

And he looks around and he goes, well, on the surface, there's no underground secret facility. Well, I'd better leave. And Xavier knows there's something there. And he goes, I didn't really want to tell him. I wanted him to figure it out for himself. You can tell him. It's fine. He can handle it, I think.

I think so, too. I mean, he goes there later. He's fine with it. He learns a lesson. Yeah. I would give, I would hand him a cigar and a beer. and I would say drink this beer and have this cigar and guess what?

Some crook stuff under there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, not real life crook. No. Movie crook. Yeah, don't leave this movie. Yeah, don't. Stay here.

You're actually much safer. Yeah. There's only an indestructible woman with claws in this movie, so that's fine. That's good, actually. By comparison is fine, actually. Yeah. But maybe the whole reason for him not telling him so he could come back to the school

and then every adult ex-man leaves, or woman. So Wolverine can babysit. But really, it's so we can do a big school murder. Yeah. Great stuff. Yeah, great. Love a big murder.

Why is there... Those special forces, guys. What's with the makeup? What's with the camo makeup? No one can see him. I could, though. They're dressed fully in black, and then they've got weird, like,

turtle shell makeup on their faces. Yeah, yeah. What happened there? Well, I guess most of the time X-Men movies are set in a forest, including some of this one, a lot of this one. That's true. I guess they were playing the percentages, weren't they?

Yeah, also. Okay, guys, fellas, let's all do our makeup. They're probably going to deploy us to the forest. Now off to the city. Ah, damn it. To a basketball court. Oh, no. Oh, no.

We didn't color ourselves like basketballs. It's embarrassing. Not in the main credits. Peter Wingfield is one of the special forces guys. He's also mythos in Highland of the series. Oh, my God. You love that series. But also, he's a guy, he's in one of those mega drive ads from the 90s.

I love all these. Who, dude. Who runs doing those, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? He's one of those guys. It's blowing their hair back or whatever. Yeah, exactly, yeah. It's right.

Damn, man. You know what? There is a really good sequence, I feel like, where Ice Man comes out to his parents. It's obviously an allegory for coming out and whatnot. Like, you know, if you ever tried not being gay, I mean a mutant or whatever. Is Iceman gay in the comics now? Yes, he is.

Okay, all right. Well, he could have came out twice here, couldn't he? Missed Opportunity. Okay, right, I see. Yeah. Betrayed by his rat bag of a brother. is generic Ryan from the OC-ass-looking brother. And look, you know, given this is the 10th or however many times I've watched this movie,

if we're going to nitpick now is the time. I didn't like how contrived that sequence is where Wolverine leaves the... The police show up and then... Because Bobby Drake's Ratbag brother sold him out. And then Wolverine comes out with the claws out. What are you going to do, kill those cops? I mean, fine, but whatever. But like, it's just so they think he's got a weapon,

so they shoot him so then Pyro can blow up all the cop cars, right? Which is fun. Don't, put the claws away. Put the claws away. You'd think he'd know by now, wouldn't me? Right? You think he would. I like the inclusion of Wolverine hating flying in this,

which makes sense, I think, because if he fell out of a plane, he would live and end up anywhere. Or he could end up in the middle of the ocean. Or in bits. Or in bits, but he's also like he's got like a hundred pounds of adamantium in him. So if he ends up in the middle of the Indian Ocean or whatever,

and he's, that's a long and horrible swim. And some Mr. T DNA. Because B. A. Barakas also hated to fly. Did he have Adamantium in his hair? He had a lot of chains. Maybe some of those were Adamantium. I think they'd probably... Oh yeah, if he just took off his chains,

he'd probably feel a bit better about himself, don't you think? Agreed. I mean, yeah, but again, if Wolverine fell out of a plane, you can end up anywhere. The wilderness, the ocean at Brian Singer's house. Oh. Terrible. Yeah.

Imagine falling into the real world and then into Brian Singer's house. Good Lord. But yeah, as you mentioned, he does fight Lady Wolverine at the end. But not before he learns about his history. He goes into a big room and all the stuff there. that he figures out what's going on.

They hadn't moved it in 30 years or whatever? Well, I think some of that stuff was newer for Lady Death Strike. Who's a robot in the comics or a cyborg or something? No, you're thinking of spiral. Oh, God, I'm always... I'm always thinking of spiral. You think of her extra arms. I mean, I think she is a cyborg, but I don't think she's...

Okay. I'm thinking of spiral from the Book of Saw or whatever. I think you are. You're always thinking of that. Good movie. Does Brian Cox call her Lady Death Strike in this? I had a distinct memory of him saying Lady Death Strike in this. I had a distinct memory of him saying Lady

There is an extended version of this. Maybe that's the one I'm thinking of. Maybe he does. Maybe it does. Yeah. The moment at the end where they go into the cerebro, because Professor X is being mind controlled by the son of William Stryker to kill all the mutants in the world.

It's taking him on a merry mind journey through a school and whatever. And he's like, you should kill all the mutants. And he's like, fuck it, I'm going to do it. Yeah, that's right. This is great. Yeah, yeah. This is what I want to do. You know, he's really just saying hello to them really hard.

But the fact that Storm goes in with Nightcrawler, That doesn't make sense to me. I know it's to make the room cold, but I think that was really to be like, we've got Hallie Berry. She's Oscar winning at this point. We should get her to do something. It makes more sense that you'd bring Jean Grey into that room, right?

That's a great point. You'd think? But, I mean, you know, she's got the telepathy, but it's not as powerful as Professor X's and et cetera. She could mangle that room. She could actually just mangled the room, couldn't she? All right, but she frees Professor X's nuts to snap him out of it. You know?

That would work. My nuts, he says. My ex nuts. Right? He's got his nuts. My texticles. That's good stuff, Mason. Thank you.

So there's an early draft in this where Magnet goes in and he just leaves in the X-Jet with Xavier. But of course, they want to do the idea, which is when if you want to make a villain who's got a really good point, you want to make them evil. He's like, you know what? you should do instead, just kill everybody in the world who's not a mutant, which makes no sense. Where are they going to get extra mutants? Yeah, right? How are you going to run the trains?

Who's going to fill up the vending machines? That's a great point. Vending machino? What are you getting, you're... Toad? Toad? I guess you could get to do it. He's dead, maybe.

Yeah. Or he's in the void? Played by a different actor? Oh, maybe, yeah. Or he's in X-Men 3. He's stuck to the roof or whatever? It's, you know, you raise a great logistical point. You kill all the humans.

Who's going to run the Mr. Whippy van? Toad? He's going to be licking all the ice cream. He'll be bouncing around in there. Right? Yuck. No. I'm not buying a Mr. Whippy from a Mr. Whippy van with Toad in it. No offence to Toad.

No. And he's not even the worst looking guy who's ever seen running a Mr. Whippy van, honestly. But I know what he's capable of. Yeah. Stickiness. Yeah. So originally we were going to see the mutants affected around the world and having them transform. Beast, we see earlier on TV.

and then replaced by Kelsey Grammer in the next movie. He was going to turn into a beast. He was going to do a beast transformation. Doesn't even make any sense. He was probably taking a serum to stop him, turning into a beast like the next movie. It's not how any of his serums work, James. Some of his serums seem to work like that.

The serum turned him into the blue beast. Yeah, I guess so. It didn't stop him from turning into the blue beast. Yeah, you might be right. We're also going to see the back... This film doesn't know anything about syrims. Thank God they took this bit out. It's the worst thing Brian's singer's ever done.

So they're going to show Gambit, played by one of Hugh Testicles stuntmen from behind and the cards flare up when he's doing a gambit. He's doing a gambling gambit or whatever. And that's a beautiful nod to X-Men. Agreed as a very good nod to X-Men. But of course, this whole thing's building up to like the reveal of the Phoenix Force and Jean Grey or whatever.

She saves everybody and she has to end up living in that lake or whatever. Why does she have to save everybody from outside the jet? Couldn't she just save everybody from inside the jet? I don't think she thought of that. She had a thought of it. Don't you think she would have done it? If she could have done it. I think she could have done it.

She could have just lifted the jet also. Sure. With everybody in it. Yeah. As opposed to stopping a wall of water and lifting the jet. I think they probably could have just cut a hole in the bottom of the jet and she could have pushed down. Okay. And then just kind of ride it out.

I don't know. Just write it out, man. Yeah, I guess. It's fine. I guess they could have written the scene differently. I guess they couldn't have even been in peril. It could have been different. Yeah, exactly.

based it. Don't you like peril in movies? Couldn't have Bobby Drake done something? He's Iceman. Freeze the water. You dumb ass. You dumb ass. You're a team. Remember at the end of the last one? They were all a team and they work together as a team. At the end of this one, they're just like, I don't know what to do. I can't do anything. Hey, can you teleport? She's not going to let me teleport. How convenient. How convenient for you. Also, you're a coward. I think you could teleport. You're a liar and a coward. Storm's got storm powers. She could have done freezing and icing. God, that would have been such a great. If you lived in the ex-manion, just Just, hey, why didn't you do the dishes?

Gene Gray would have let me with her telepathy. She stopped me doing it. That's why. Don't ask her about it. Yeah, don't do it. She'll zap you. I didn't take the bids out because Jean Grey didn't let me with her telepathy. She stopped me with a telekete.

I couldn't open the door because of telekinesis or telepathy or something. Yeah. That's good point. But of course, Gene Gray dies. Not really. There's another movie. There's actually a lot of movies. But then we get two beautiful, angry men hugging it out.

Hugh Jackman and James Marston. It's quite stunning. Watching men express anger and sadness. Sure. Gripping each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Screaming. It's good.

And Hugh Jackman admits to him. He's like, well, you know, Gene Gray chose you. Yeah, years ago. I'd hope so. You'd think so, because... He probably smells great. Yeah, but also, they've been a couple for years. And what?

Oh, great work, buddy. She chose you instead of me. This weird drifter shows up every couple of years. And just is a creep on her. Yeah. Wow, she actually, she didn't choose me. Wow. What a shock.

Yeah. Man, am I right? Yeah. X, man. X, man. Thank you. So they visit the president at the end, and they're like, this isn't a threat. Yeah. Feels like a massive threat.

We're all here. It feels like a very, oh, they might not be there. Oh, yeah. But there is the file on the table, but they could have just got a guy with a bin, with a bucket of papers to walk it and put it on. They could have got bucket man to do it. But that's a real, we know where you live moment. Absolutely. Yeah.

Oh, which reminds me, you know, you know. You know, a bit where they're, it's just Magneto and Mystique on the X-Jet and they're gossiping each other. Oh, yeah. Having a little gossip. Do you remember that? Very sassy. Yeah, a couple of sassy bitches.

Love all of that. Good. So, uh, anyways, some other things went down on this set. Oh, no. According to THR. Can we pull this out and make it funny at the end, though? Can we get over this? Is there any more jokes after this?

Or we're just going to be crook stuff? And then we go, enjoy being sad for the rest of the week, everybody. Um, I think, I mean, we'll do this section and then we'll just fill it out. Oh, all right. So sources who were present say that producer Tom DeSanto attempted to halt shooting when they learned that Singer was incapacitated after taking a narcotic. Some other crew members have also taken this drug. And DeSanto feared that, you know, because of this something on set could happen.

So there was this action sequence, right, where all of the main cast with the exception of like Ian McAllen and maybe Rebecca Romaine were there. And it's the ex-jet at the end or whatever. And Brian Singer was like, listen, we're not supposed to shoot this day, but we're going to shoot it. So they ended up leading to a botched stunt that had Hugh Jackman bleeding on camera. Again, they were supposed to film that the next day, but Singer brought it forward. Bleeding for real. Bleeding for real.

Dang. And he's not really Wolverine. So we can't get better straight away. Yeah. But the studio, they sided with Singer. And they told DeSanto, look, listen, you need to go home. We don't appreciate your work and go home. As the one non-drug affected person on this set, you're out of line and you have to go home.

So that meant that the main cast, minus you. Ian McAllen and Rebecca Romaine, all dressed in their X-Men costume, converged on Singer in his trailer to confront him, saying that they're going to quit if DeSanto left. And Brian Singer arched up and was like, shut up or whatever. You don't know what you're talking about. And that led to

Hallie Berry famously saying, you can kiss my black ass. So that was reported over the years, but it wasn't a lot of detail as to why, but this is apparently why. DeSanto has declined to comment about the fight, and a rep for Singer said, no, nothing like this actually ever happened, actually. Well,

Yeah. It didn't actually happen. Everyone who witnessed that is out of line and they need to go home. Or do drugs, yeah. Anyway, it's time for trivia too. X-Men trivia too. Ooh. Did you know this is a real ice movie? What are you doing this?

What is this? What are you? The ice wall... What are you leading up to here? This is just a fun fact. The ice wall separated Wolverine and Stryker in the X mansion. That was real ice and it weighed 3,500 pounds. What did they get that ice?

They made the ice. Whoa. Don't you think that's good? One big thing of ice? Ice! Huh? I don't think it's necessary. You could have just used a person.

I mean, they see you had a lot of stuff. Yeah, exactly. They see you had that X. Including the ice when it formed in front of them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to tell you, man. Maybe they know an ice guy and they'd give them some money the ice guy, you know.

Yeah. When you know an ice guy, when you've got... He's probably your brother-in-law and you're like, I should throw him some work or whatever. When you've got an ice guy, everything looks like a situation where you need a big thing of ice. That's what they say. That's a saying. in Hollywood. That is, isn't it?

Halliberry actually dropped out of the movie Gile to reprise her role as Storm. Good call. Yeah, good work. Ethan Embry was actually going to play Nightcrawler at one point because Alan Cumming was initially unavailable. I was working out at night and I was on a diet. I was doing that Atkins thing, which was crazy.

It sucks. It was terrible. I'm back to pasta now. You filmed timeline instead. A movie we have looked out and is... Certainly a movie. It's rocious. It's bad.

It's a bad movie. Sure. Absolutely. Everybody's so narrow in it. Oh, my goodness. Jerry Butler and the narrowest he's ever been, I think we said. Narrowse he's ever been, absolutely. Probably on the Atkins diet.

Probably was. Now he's back to faster. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Sentinels were actually designed for this project from Guy Hendrix Dias and Ricardo delgado. And some of the designs you'll see here, Mason, they would compress into a disc and fly about, which is fun. It's good to compress into a disc and fly about.

They're good designs, actually, I think. But it would have cost an extra $7 to $8 million to achieve this. The danger room was also to be included. There's actually, I think it's in the DVD extras you see like a shifting room. Ooh, a shifting room. So that was the idea that Wolverine was going to be doing a big training in there.

But then that was later reused in the TV series Tilt the room. That's right. They took all that. They took all the sets. Yeah. And the one with hole in the wall. Can you fit through this hole in the wall?

Yeah. I couldn't. No, I couldn't ever. Because I'm off the Atkinson. I'm back in a pastor. Are you? You're doing pasta. Yeah, I'm doing pasta.

You're widening out. Yeah. Hell yeah, brother. You got it. You're on reverse those end pick as well. That's exactly, you better believe it. And originally, Ray Park, he was going to return as Toad and get to fight Nightcrawler.

However, scheduling conflicts prevented this from happening. I would have liked to have seen two sticky jumping blokes. Absolutely. One's got the prehensile tongue, one's got that tail, zip-zap. Tongue meets tail. Tongue meets tail. You know?

Absolutely. You go out for Mr. Whippy afterwards. You might just. Anyways, box office for this on a budget of between 110 or $125 million. It's somewhere in there. it made 407.7. Pretty good. Big X-Men hit.

Big hit. So that solidified the X-Men as a viable franchise. And it went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and made less sense and less sense and less sense and they just did all the storylines again. But sometimes there's a good one. You're like, that's a good one. How'd they do that? Who made this one? I guess it's just by the fact that it's keep making them over and over and over and over and over again.

Oh, and on and on and on and on. Alan Cumming. I mentioned this up top. He's talked about his time on this movie. Loved it. He spoke to the White Wine Question Time podcast. Oh, hello. He said, perfect for him, by the way, don't you think?

Absolutely. He said, was it hosted by Mystique and Magneto? Just being sassy bitches. Oh, welcome to the wide wine podcast time. He said it was dangerous. It was abusive and the studio didn't care. All the actors said something and they just went, oh, never mind. It's only going to be a few more weeks.

Don't worry. And it's going to make a lot of money. They actually said that, and also you're under contract. And I said, I don't want to feel dirty about. going to work, I would cry. It was just tragic. But he did say since then to EW said, I think the X-Men film I mean is the gayest

film than I've ever done. And that's me saying that. It's an allegory about queerness, about people having these great gifts and really great powerful things and they have to hide to exist. Queer people understand what that's all about. So yeah, there you go. He does, in hindsight, of course, he's returning. You know, he does have

fondness for X-Men and that character. Absolutely. Look forward to him in Avengers Dooms Day where he fights Reed Richards or whatever I think he just told everybody like what he's doing it if you are interested Now you might be like These Brian Singer X-Men movies

And sure he does more after this Were they worth it? Well X-Men producer Shut up Well X-Men producer Ralph Winter You knew I was going to say no didn't you You don't need to say anything Because X-Men producer Ralph Winter

Never heard of him This is what he says He says I think X-Men will stand the test of time And hopefully Brian will survive This is recently by the way And hopefully Brian will survive some way in his career at his work as a filmmaker and artist, but I don't find the movie tainted in any way

because of whatever all the current events are about Brian. To me, that stuff doesn't matter. Great. Definitive word. From Ralph Winter? What's his name? That's right. Wow.

Yeah. Wow, that'll be on your tombstone, buddy. Anyways, if you're interested in us talking about X-Men 3, we did, like seven years ago. And we're going to do it again. We're going to do it word for word. word next week. Same thing. I might repackage it and just send it out to the world again.

That could very much happen. I mean, it's good for the compilation videos, isn't it, Mason? Yeah, that's where the real money is made on YouTube. Let me tell you that. I thought it was Mr. Beast. Isn't that where all the real money's made? Oh yeah, Mr. Beast has all the real money. Should we just make Mr. Beast videos? Yeah, probably.

But isn't he also losing money? But that means we could be making money. That's a good point. If someone's losing money, we could be making money. We could be picking up all that money falling out of his pockets. He'd probably need some ice, right? like big ice? Yeah, we can get him in touch with the ice guy.

Isn't your brother-in-law a big ice guy? Yes. Wait, not in that sense, though, in a different way. But then we'll link him up and then we'll take it a little bit off the top. Totally. Of ice. Yes. Yeah.

Anyways, if you want to hint towards next week, here it is. I think we're doing like 90s action sci-fi stuff. Oh, all right. Meaning what? Like Starship Troopers or whatever. Oh, yeah. That famously straightforward, not an allegory movie. Correct.

But also like Fifth Alleman and whatever else. Maybe a Stargate. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fifth Element, famously unproblematic director as well. It's good to talk about. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyways, if you do want to see that early, you actually can at big sandwich.com or you can sign up at our Patreon at patreon. At patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies where both of these platforms have six years of bonus exclusive content. There's video game let's plays. There's bonus podcast. There's movie commentaries. We do a comic book club. That's right.

We're talking about X-Men, for sure. We've definitely talked about X-Men comic books. Yeah, that's right. If you do want to check that out, that's link below. You just go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and continuity and whatever. Again, there's thousands of hours of stuff there if you are interested, and it helps support this channel and keeps it ad-free and all of that. We're not running sponsors for Ozampic or whatever, or reverse Ozampic,

which I know you do heartily endorse. I'm looking fabulous, aren't I? It's true. Can barely get through the door and I'm loving it. Also, we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out every Monday. That's also on those platforms ad-free. We do the news of the week and then big movie.

Big movie. Sometimes it's an X-Men movie. Most of the time it's an X-Men movie, honestly. We've talked a lot about X-Men movie. Thank you so much to Ben for the edit. Thank you, Ben. Thank you so much to Lawrence for the edit. Thank you, Lawrence.

See on the next one. Grab that, Jemmy. You guys, we'll see you next week. Yeah. Movie. X-Men. X-Men.