The Why Files: Operation Podcast - 523: Baltic Sea Anomaly, Atlantis, and Underwater Alien Bases | Mysteries of the Ocean Pt 1

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Eerie mysteries lurk beneath the waves. Recent discoveries have challenged what we thought we knew about the seafloor. Strange structures litter the deep—from a Baltic anomaly that resembles a crash...ed UFO, to an enigmatic road in the Bahamas that resurrects suggestions of Atlantis. What other oddities swim in the unmapped darkness below?  Professional explorers use cutting-edge sonar and robot subs to uncover the ocean’s hidden past. But secret forces seem determined to conceal the truth. Equipment fails, funds evaporate. Some believe shadowy bases dot the seabed—each hiding explosive revelations. Will disclosure ever surface? Or will the aquatic aliens that occupy these aquatic lairs continue to elude our grasp? What will it take to part the murky veil?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You sailed beyond the horizon in search of an island scrubbed from every map. You battled krakens and navigated through storms. Your spade struck the lid of a long-lost treasure chest. While you cooked a lasagna. There's more to imagine when you listen. Discover best-selling adventure stories on Audible. Like the Hubble before it, the James Webb Telescope has given us images of deep space
Starting point is 00:00:35 that challenge our view of the universe and our place in it. Every day we discover new galaxies, stars, and planets. Some of these discoveries can even exceed our own imaginations. But we spend so much time exploring the heavens that it's easy to forget about the mysteries right here at home. Seventy percent of the Earth's surface is water. Arthur C. Clarke famously said, how inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it clearly is ocean.
Starting point is 00:01:02 As of 2023, less than 25% of the seafloor has been mapped. Less than 10% of the ocean has been explored. In that tiny amount of exploration, we found things that defy logic and challenge history. Sunken cities, ancient monuments, and objects that look like they're from another world. The more we explore, the more we learn we know nothing about what lies beneath the waves. More people have walked on the moon than have been to the deepest parts of the ocean. So with all due respect to space, the real final frontier is the sea. In June 2011, divers Peter Lindberg and Dennis Orsberg were treasure hunting in the Gulf of Bothnia in the Baltic Sea.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Peter had made a name for himself a few years earlier when he discovered a merchant ship that was sunk by German U-boats in World War I. The wreck was loaded with hundreds of bottles of rare cognac and brandy. The bottles were sold at auction for $20,000 each in today's money. That was enough of a nest egg for Peter to launch OceanX, a deep-sea exploration company, professional treasure hunters. Peter and Dennis knew the ocean floor beneath the busy shipping lanes of the Baltic were loaded with prizes. To this day, two or three dozen ships go missing every year.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Many of those disappear in the Baltic. They were on a routine survey mission when their sonar got a hit. Everyone on the ship gathered around the machine to see what they discovered. The sonar slowly started to paint a picture. They couldn't tell what it was. A merchant ship? A submarine? Was it anything of value? When the image finally finished processing, it
Starting point is 00:02:47 revealed a circular object that didn't look natural. It looked man-made. Well, maybe not man-made. It looked like a UFO. Oh, it looks like the, uh, aluminum falcon. Millennium falcon. What'd I say? It was 200 feet wide and was lying at the end of a channel.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Whatever this object was, it looked like it had hit the water and slid hundreds of feet across the seafloor. The object appeared to have a hull with chambers and sections with straight lines and right angles. Peter and Dennis gave the crew orders. Don't say anything about the object until they figure out what it is. Snitches get stitches. Well, they were just trying to protect the site. Snitches get stitches. Fine.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Rules of the street, rules of the sea. Anyway, they studied the image for weeks and were stumped. Finally, they decided to go public. The image went viral and landed in every newspaper and every broadcast in the world. Buckle up, Star Wars nerds. You're going to like this one. It can only be described as the wreckage of a crashed spaceship. The genie was out of the bottle. There was no going back. They came across something unusual.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Now everyone on Earth knew something mysterious was happening at the bottom of the Baltic. The hope was all that media coverage would help finance a return expedition to the site. If they could get back there, they'd dive to the object. They'd map the entire area in 3D. So the team started pitching investors and sponsors. Sponsors wanted to know, is this an alien craft? We don't know. Is it a natural formation? We don't know. Is it a natural
Starting point is 00:04:25 formation? We don't know. Maybe it's proof of the lost city of Atlantis. Well, it's not Atlantis. No, why not? Well, because in 1968, Atlantis was already found. In June 1938, Edgar Cayce lay back on his couch and closed his eyes. After a few minutes of deep breathing, he started mumbling, then forming full sentences. He was in a trance. Edgar Cayce was called the sleeping prophet because this was his process. He went into a deep state of relaxation, like sleep, and had visions of the past, present, and future. Cayce gave thousands of readings
Starting point is 00:05:08 where he predicted future events, and many of these came true. He predicted the stock market crash of 1929. He predicted the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He saw the rise and fall of Adolf Hitler. He predicted laser technology before anyone knew what that was. During this particular reading in 1938, Cayce was interested in the ocean, specifically the lost city of Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Atlantis was made famous by Plato, who described the island nation in his works Timaeus and Critias. Plato described Atlantis as a powerful island nation with advanced technology. Then there was a cataclysm. Volcanoes, tsunamis, and a global flood destroyed Atlantis. It's been lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere ever since. Officially, the story of Atlantis is considered an allegory, Plato's warning about the hubris of powerful nations. However, many people believe that Atlantis was a real place. Plato said he heard the story from his grandfather, who had heard it from the Athenian statesman Solon. Solon learned of Atlantis from an Egyptian priest who said Atlantis was destroyed 9,000 years before.
Starting point is 00:06:17 That timeline lines up nicely with the global flood at the end of the Younger Trias about 13,000 years ago. During Edgar Cayce's psychic reading, he confirmed that Atlantis was a real place. He said it was a large island nation in the Bahamas. He predicted that evidence of Atlantis would be found there. Specifically, he said evidence of Atlantis would be found in the area of Bimini in the Bahamas in 1968. 30 years later, in 1968, divers were exploring the area of Bimini when they saw something on the ocean floor that stood out from the surrounding landscape. It was a series of monoliths, giant stone blocks arranged in a line. Each block was a rectangular piece of limestone about 13 feet long, 3 feet high, and 9 feet
Starting point is 00:07:05 across, and each weighing several tons. The line of stones looked like a wall, or more like a road. Bimini Road extends for half a mile. During the last ice age, the Earth's sea level was 300 feet lower. The islands of the Bahamas were one very large island, and Bimini Road would have run right through the middle of it. If you look at ancient maps like the Piri Reis map, you can see the Bahamas not depicted as a bunch of small islands. It's shown as a single large island.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And running right through the middle, something that looks just like Bimini Road. Bimini Road has spawned all kinds of theories, especially since it's connected to an Edgar Cayce prediction that came true. Some say this was Atlantis, and Bimini Road is a remnant of the city's ancient harbor. This also shows that Atlanteans had advanced construction technology, just like Plato said. Other psychics say Bimini Road emits an unusual energy
Starting point is 00:08:01 that produces visions and healing powers. I can't confirm that, but Edgar Cayce did. Ufologists think Bimini Road might have been a landing zone for spacecraft, or possibly a portal to a different dimension. This portal, they say, still opens and closes on a regular basis. In 1997, deep-sea engineer Joseph Mason was diving Bimini when he saw a large square door open on the side of a stone block. The door led to an underground passage, but his compass started failing and the corridor disappeared. There have been strange electromagnetic readings above Bimini, sometimes causing instruments to go crazy. Is this evidence of portals or maybe something else?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Remember, Bimini Road is in the Bermuda Triangle. In the 1970s, divers claimed to have seen more stones aligned into more roads, but those structures have since vanished. There's still no consensus about what Bimini Road is. If it's a natural formation, it's unlike anything ever discovered. But while skeptics and believers debated Bimini Road, the OceanX team was out raising money, trying to finance another trip to the UFO,
Starting point is 00:09:09 the Baltic Sea Anomaly. It took a year, but they raised the money. So now it's time we go back to the Baltic. Mom, Mom, did you see my race? Of course I did, darling. Look, you did your best. You tried. The thing is, it's not about winning.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It's about taking part. Next year you might do better. But I did win, Mom. You did? When it's sunny, make sure you can still see. At Specsavers, get two pairs of glasses from $149. And one can be prescription sunglasses. Hey, the sun won't wait.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Visit Specsavers.ca for details. Conditions apply. You searched for your informant, who disappeared without a trace. You knew there were witnesses, but lips were sealed. You swept the city, driving closer to the truth, while curled up on the couch with your cat. There's more to imagine when you listen. Discover heart-pounding thrillers on Audible. It took a year of pitching investors and sponsors, but the OceanX team finally had enough money for another expedition. Deep-sea diving is expensive. At that time, it cost about 20,000 euros a day.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They had 120,000 in total. That means they'd have less than a week to find the vessel. And they're already off to a rough start. A storm forced the ship to find shelter in the surrounding islands. Waiting out a storm is throwing money away. Money they can't afford to lose. The following morning, their luck turns, and they've
Starting point is 00:10:52 got clear skies and gentle seas. They begin scanning the area, looking for the craft. But they have to be careful. They're running radio silent, cell phones off, no connection to the outside world. The media frenzy created a lot of interest in the Baltic Sea Anomaly. But it was in international waters, which means anybody can take a shot at it.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They had to be careful and avoid being tracked. Snitches! I got it. Snitches. After ducking a Navy ship, they dropped the fish in the water. This is side-scanning sonar. It paints a two-dimensional image of the ocean floor. They also use a multi-beam
Starting point is 00:11:30 echo sounder. This emits sound waves that create a three-dimensional image of the seabed. But then they hit another snag. They lost their sonar. Something was interfering with the equipment. That's a theory. They dropped an ROV in the water
Starting point is 00:11:45 to try and track their gear. An ROV is a remotely operated underwater vehicle. Basically, it's a small submarine with a camera and a grabbing arm. Somehow, they find the sonar cable and they repair it. But this costs them a lot of time and morale is low.
Starting point is 00:12:02 48 hours later, they find the object. It's 300 feet down. That's deep and dangerous. So the ROV goes first, and they get the first close-up images of the anomaly. They see straight edges and what looks like concrete. Sonar shows a perfectly round hole about 10 feet wide, and it's surrounded by a square frame.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Nature doesn't produce perfect geometry like this. They're excited to get down there and see the object with their own eyes, but they're getting strange temperature readings. The water is about 40 degrees Fahrenheit. But the water right above the vessel is below freezing. Well, how is that possible? Well, they don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Then a fog rolls in. This makes deep diving very dangerous. They get the feeling that something wants to keep them away. Still, they decide to dive. After descending 300 feet down, they arrive at the object. It feels like concrete. They touch it, and the material turns black. They want to get in a few more dives,
Starting point is 00:13:16 but are out of time and money. Diving 300 feet means you need to take about 90 minutes to return to the surface. You have to ascend slowly to give your body time to readjust to the pressure. Return to the surface too fast, and you can rupture a lung or worse. They have to turn back, and they have another problem.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Their 3D scan is incomplete, and there's nothing they can do about it. Oh, no. But they brought hammers and chisels on their dive. They managed to chip off pieces of the object. So they returned to port and sent the samples to a lab, hoping someone can tell them, what the hell is this thing?
Starting point is 00:13:58 When Christopher Columbus sailed across the Atlantic in search of a new route to India, he found something else. And it wasn't the New World. Well, he did route to India, he found something else. And it wasn't the New World. Well, he did find that, but he found something else first. Like every good captain, Columbus kept a journal of the entire voyage. His full journal is available and it's worth reading. But there's one specific entry that stands out.
Starting point is 00:14:24 1492, October 11th, 10pm. I and Pedro Gutierrez, while on the deck of the Santa Maria, observed a light glimmering at a great distance. It vanished and reappeared several times during the night, moving up and down in sudden and passing gleams. It was sighted for four hours. You a Columbus or a UFO? He did. Well, technically he saw a USO, Unidentified Submerged Object. Columbus made his first landfall the next day, which means he had his UFO sighting while he was in the Bermuda Triangle. There have been sightings of underwater lights ever since. In 1644, the mayor of Boston saw two bright lights rise out of the water.
Starting point is 00:15:07 In 1873, the Adelheid sailed over something in the South China Sea that lit up the ocean for over an hour. They said it looked like a ferris wheel. In 1879, the HMS Vulture saw a large ferris wheel spinning in the ocean. In 1880, commander of the SS Shahjahan described a massive ferris wheel under a calm sea near India's coast. Later that year, another ship with the British India Company saw the same object.
Starting point is 00:15:34 They said it was 300 yards long. Those are just a few of the many reports of this object. There are reports of the same ferris wheel-type craft that span 200 years. Whatever objects are in our oceans, they've been here for a very, very long time. Since the early 1900s, professional sailors... Yeah, you mean steaming? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Say it. No. Hehehe. Since the early 1900s, professional sailors and navy men have seen lights in the water, and in some cases, craft emerge from the ocean. Autech is the Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center. This is a highly secret Navy facility located within the Bermuda Triangle. It opened in 1967, and it's in a remote location in the Bahamas near very deep water.
Starting point is 00:16:26 At AUTEC, the Navy tests all kinds of equipment, including advanced weapons. It's been called the Navy's Area 51. Former employees of AUTEC Base have reported mile-wide craft silently emerging from the sea. They create no sound. They make no waves or splash when going in or out of the water. The USOs are strange enough, but the fact that they don't disturb the water is mind-boggling. No scientist has come up with an explanation for this. One researcher said that there's a force field around the craft that's a vacuum, which is why there's no wind or water resistance.
Starting point is 00:17:18 In front of the machine, they open vacuum, vacuum space. This is why they need this tunnel. This is why they need this tunnel. This is why they are never wet. Now, I don't think that works. A vacuum flying through the clouds or into water would still disrupt it. The only thing that makes sense to me, which makes no sense at all, is that UAPs are somehow interdimensional. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That is some weird s***. So they exist in our universe, but they can pass through solid objects as if their physical matter is out of phase with ours. But we do, allegedly, have recovered craft. These are objects we can touch. So maybe this phase shift only happens when the engines are running. Or maybe anti-gravity technology makes a craft impervious to air and water friction. I really don't know. But there are more and more
Starting point is 00:18:10 videos out there of UFOs shooting into and out of the water without disturbing a drop. This is clearly an important piece of their technology. If what we are witnessing is a true transmedium vehicle, a vehicle that can penetrate that barrier between air and sea or air and space without destruction, then we're looking at a propulsion system that is so far advanced, it's beyond next generation technology. So we're probably looking at, and what it is theorized as we're looking at, is a gravitational propulsion system, a non-reactionary propulsion system. In the late 1980s, Gulf Breeze, Florida, not far from the secret Navy facility,
Starting point is 00:18:52 made global headlines. Local resident Ed Walters photographed a glowing acorn-shaped craft hovering above his neighborhood. His images triggered a wave of UFO sightings in the area, with hundreds of witnesses reporting similar encounters. Skeptics accused Walters of hoaxing the photos via double exposure, but analysis showed no sign of manipulation, only an ominous, unidentified object. Walters' photos are still some of the most compelling I've ever seen. The Earth is covered by so much water, and so much of it is unexplored that it seems obvious that aliens or whoever is controlling these craft would use the ocean as a way to stay hidden.
Starting point is 00:19:51 In fact, there's a researcher who says there's a whole network of tunnels running under the ocean floor. These tunnels connect to large alien bases, and the locations of those bases are not going to surprise you. You searched for your informant, who disappeared without a trace. You knew there were witnesses, but lips were sealed. You swept the city,
Starting point is 00:20:24 driving closer to the truth, while curled up on the couch with your cat. There's more to imagine when you listen. Discover heart-pounding thrillers on Audible. Cuban ufologist Maximilien de la Fiat is a leading proponent of the undersea alien tunnels theory. He gets his information from sources in the military and NASA. He claims there's a vast network of tunnels beneath the seabed. UAPs use these to move quickly from one part of the Earth to the other. Within this tunnel network are hubs which contain large bases.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Twelve bases to be exact. And they're all over the world. South America, Russia, Japan. And there are bases in places you'd expect. Like several in the Bermuda Triangle, there's a base in the Baltic Sea. Near the aluminum falcon. Yes, there. And there's a major base in Alaska. Mount M-H-A-S-E. Yes, under Mount Haze.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Remember we covered Joseph McMonagle in the episode about Project 8200? That was the secret CIA program that used psychic spies to remote view locations around the world. Joe and other psychics saw alien bases in Mount Haze and other mountains. They also saw a lot of alien activity underwater. Joe specifically said that USOs were very busy around the U.S. Navy's base in the Bahamas. I've remote viewed for every major intelligence agency in America. I did see some USOs that were operating within the vicinity of Autech. After researching this topic, it's obvious we need a full episode on alien underwater bases.
Starting point is 00:22:06 So if you want to see that, let me know. There's so much more to cover. All right, last thing on this. A few months ago on The After Files, I covered a fascinating 4chan post. 4chan. I know, I know, 4chan is 4chan. But this person, who claimed to be a former contractor for the Department of Defense, was very believable. He says there's a large alien base underwater in the Bermuda Triangle.
Starting point is 00:22:30 The reason planes and boats disappear is because they get too close to the base. In fact, he says the Navy knows where this base is and they specifically avoid it. The alien base can move. The Navy sees them move and they set up a new no-go zone. He said that one plane strayed too close and disintegrated into dust. But here are the bullet points. The U.S. military believes the base has been there for a long time. At first they thought a few hundred years, but now they believe the base goes back to at least 4,000 B.C. It might even be older,
Starting point is 00:23:02 though he says there's an internal debate on this. So what the hell is it? Well, the base is a huge construction facility used to develop and deploy UFOs. They're here for research and resources. The military believes the base is operated by some kind of A.I., not necessarily a sentient being or group of beings.
Starting point is 00:23:23 The aliens, or whoever's in charge of the base, they don't really care about humans. The only time they'll get involved is if we start messing around with nuclear weapons. And we've seen UFOs appear on film of nuclear tests in the past. There's even that story of something shutting down a U.S. nuclear missile facility. Here's how the base works. It decides it wants to survey some area of the earth. Then using raw materials within the base,
Starting point is 00:23:52 a craft is constructed specifically for that purpose. The craft is built around whatever equipment is needed. If the base is going on a survey mission, it creates the necessary scanning gear. That package is then wrapped in a vehicle. The vehicle is deployed from the ocean. It goes on its mission, it gathers data, then the craft returns to the base,
Starting point is 00:24:11 and the whole thing is broken back down again into raw materials. It's nice they recycle. Well, it's their planet. So no aliens? Just spaceships that don't go to space? Nope, there are aliens. Yes, fin bump. No, thank are aliens. Yes, fin bump. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Come on, fin bump for aliens. There you go. And the ships do go to space, but rarely. They're here for Earth and a little bit of the moon. Again, different episode. Anyway, this whistleblower claims that the aliens are the greys, and they're not fully sentient. The government believes they're drones or possibly even clones.
Starting point is 00:24:49 They're grown as needed for mission support, just like the UFOs are built to be mission-specific. Now that I think of it, we could do a whole episode just on this post. YouTube won't let me link to 4chan. Snot. But let me know if you want to see a full episode on all the details. He has a lot more to say. He talks about
Starting point is 00:25:06 the materials they used to build, the power sources, different technologies that we've reverse engineered, lots of stuff. A lot of what he says is corroborated
Starting point is 00:25:15 by other whistleblowers like Bob Lazar and even David Grush. Now, it could all be a hoax, but hoax or not, it's a really fun read. And speaking of hoaxes, we have to finish our story
Starting point is 00:25:26 about the Baltic Sea Anomaly. Oh no. Peter and Dennis from OceanX brought up samples of the Baltic Sea Anomaly and sent them to a lab. It was just rock, no metals detected at all, so that rules out an alien ship. The rock was found to be volcanic,
Starting point is 00:25:46 which is strange. There isn't volcanic activity in the area. The theory then changed from UFO to underground structure, maybe a temple or a building. There are features on the anomaly that do look man-made or unnatural, but the closer you look, the more it looks like nothing more than a weird rock. Now on the internet, there are lots of fun photos and images and even video of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, but none of them are real. The only actual image is that first sonar image taken in 2011. Sonar expert Hanumat Singh weighed in
Starting point is 00:26:17 and said that the image isn't great. If you look carefully, you can see a reflection of the circular formation on the right side of the image. Since side-scan sonar is taken with two instruments that bounce acoustic waves in opposite directions from the boat, a feature on one side shouldn't affect the image on the other side. He says the reflections are caused by electrical crosstalk. This means the sonar wasn't wired properly. Singh calls this Strike 1, and he has more to say.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The black horizontal lines going through the image show that sonar signals are dropping out. That is, the instruments aren't detecting them, further calling the measurements into question. A clean, properly wired sonar wouldn't have those lines. We'd have a clean image. That's not the case with the Baltic Sea anomaly.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Singh calls this strike two. Finally, the case with the Baltic Sea anomaly. Singh calls this Strike Two. Finally, the edges of the image, just beyond the circular formation, are gray, meaning the sonar couldn't tell what was there. That shows the sonar isn't calibrated well enough to trust. That's Strike Three. The OceanX team has been attacked and accused of hoaxing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It was suspicious that when they went back the following year, they had equipment failure. Remember, they lost their sonar, and their 3D imaging was incomplete. Skeptics say this is too convenient, and people started calling it a scam. Now, Peter and Dennis spent a lot of time trying to raise money to go back, but they couldn't find the support. They blame the media for this. I agree. Blame the media. You don't even know what the media did.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Oh, let me guess. They jumped to conclusions without checking the facts? Okay, so you do know what the media did. Not my first rodeo, chief. After it was discovered that there was no medal, the media went hard on the OceanX team. They called it a scam. Every time the team pitched investors, they were turned down.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Nobody wanted to sponsor a potential hoax. Peter has distanced himself from the whole thing. He was tired of being called a con man. In defense of the guys, they did go back to the site a few years ago with an ROV, and there's more footage of it. They claim they found possible writing or hieroglyphics on the side of one of the stones. And it could be. It's too hard to tell.
Starting point is 00:28:30 As of 2020, experts believe the Baltic Sea Anomaly is a piece of volcanic rock that was pushed in place by a glacier. That's why there's a channel behind it. Now, everyone admits it does look strange. It doesn't look natural. But until a serious, well-funded dive team goes down there and spends a lot of time studying it, we'll never know. Dennis posted on his YouTube page just a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:28:52 that he's had a rough year with this and other projects. He had a Russian shipwreck dive scheduled, but the war derailed his plans, and he still can't find financial support to go back to the Baltic Sea object. He thinks this is a shame and a waste, and I don't disagree. Unfortunately, investors want a return on their money. The Baltic Sea anomaly doesn't have a financial upside.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, unless it's one of the greatest discoveries in history. Well, it may be a great discovery, but there's no profit in it, so there's no support. That's why nobody's gone back to the moon. No profit. Nobody ever went to the moon. Look, I don't want to get in... Nobody ever went to the moon, and I'm not going to tell you again. Promise?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Don't make me fin slap you. As for Bimini Road, the mainstream view is it's a natural formation. It's just beach rock that happened to arrange itself in that way. In a perfect line, half a mile long. Well, that's the mainstream view. Ah, the mainstream is full of s***. Watch your mouth. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:48 The mainstream is often wrong. You searched for your informant, who disappeared without a trace. You knew there were witnesses, but lips were sealed. You swept the city, driving closer to the truth. While curled up on the couch with your cat. There's more to imagine when you listen.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Discover heart-pounding thrillers on Audible. The Bimini Road looks man-made to me. Unfortunately, there's no way to date the rock, so we don't know how long it's been down there. Whether it's connected to Atlantis or not, nobody knows. There are no other objects or structures in the area, at least none confirmed. Now, there is that sunken city off the coast of Cuba
Starting point is 00:30:40 that could be thousands of years old. And if the sea level was 300 feet lower, that whole area could have held a huge civilization. But again, no solid evidence, only speculation. I love speculation. I know you do. It's a living. The last thing we covered are underwater bases and the USOs.
Starting point is 00:30:56 No, no, no, don't debunk those. I can't. Oh, thank goodness. We lose subscribers when you do that. Now, we can and should be skeptical about posts on 4chan and Reddit. They make for good reading, but that's not evidence. But we have plenty of statements from witnesses who've seen objects going in and out of the water. And by now, we've all seen footage of UFOs flying over and into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Now, there isn't a lot of physical evidence of actual underwater bases, but just a few months ago, an interesting image hit the news. It's an underwater scan near Catalina Island off the coast of California. Tim Gallaudet, a former admiral who is one of the Navy's top oceanography experts, says this scan is worth investigating. Now, this is an admiral, not just a sailor. See him and stop it. The admiral saw the image and says there's no natural explanation for it, and it could be an entrance to an underwater or underground base.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think it's about time that we do disclose that we are in contact with non-human intelligence. That's what needs to be put out there in the public. Catalina has been a UFO hotspot for years. That's where the USS Nimitz was in 2004 when a pilot chased a UFO for miles. We've all seen this footage. The admiral says there's a lack of scientific curiosity from the military when it comes to UFOs. And he's right. Congress just passed a defense bill that includes language that gives the American people full transparency and access to the government's information on UFOs.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Now, you already knew this. The news called it the UAP Disclosure Bill. But did you know that the Pentagon stripped all the language regarding disclosure from the bill? Now, as always, they can remove anything regarding UFOs if the information is considered a matter of national security. Stella, that could be anything. Anything. The Department of Defense can hide, cover up, redact, classify, or even destroy any evidence of UFOs they want, any time they want.
Starting point is 00:32:55 No! Yep. Tim Burchett, a Republican congressman from Tennessee, wrote the disclosure amendment. He said, and I quote, We got ripped off. We got completely hosed. They stripped out every part. Burchett's a Republican, so it was Democrats that hosed us, right?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Nope, it was Republicans. Oh, so Republicans are the problem, right? Nope, our Democrat Senate and Democrat President signed it. Uniparty. Uniparty. People ask me all the time about disclosure. Are we close? Are they finally going to tell us?
Starting point is 00:33:27 And they hate it when I tell them, no. No, they're not. Congressman Burchett and Admiral Gallaudet are right. The Pentagon, the Military Intelligence Complex, the shadow government, whatever you want to call it, they're not curious about UFOs. They're not curious about what they are. They're not curious about why they're here. They're not curious at all they are. They're not curious about why they're here. They're not curious at all.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I think the reason for this lack of curiosity is clear. Why be curious about something you already know? Thank you so much for hanging out with us today. My name is AJ. You know, hecklefish. Yeah, let's kick in sexy chicken. This has been the Y-Files. If you had fun or learned anything, do him a favor.
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Starting point is 00:35:51 while you're wearing a hoodie with my heck of a fish face on it while you're squeezing one of these heck of a squeezy animal fish toy, tug of fish toys, while you're playing a game of go heck of a fish card games. And that's going to do it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated. I played Philippiaius in Area 51 A secret code inside the Bible said I was I love my UFOs and paranormal fun
Starting point is 00:36:38 As well as music, so I'm singing like I should But then another conspiracy theory Becomes the truth, my friends And it never ends No, it never ends I feel the crab cat and I got stuck inside Mel's home With MKUltra being only two away Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone
Starting point is 00:37:16 On a film set or were the shadow people there The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man I'm told, and his name was cold And I can't believe, I'm dancing with the fish Head to fish on Thursday night, Wednesday, J2 And the white balls of the beat all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the world falls on its feet
Starting point is 00:37:49 All through the night The Mothman sightings and the solar storm still come To a god, the secret city underground Mysterious number stations, planets are bold too Project Stargate and where the Dark Watchers found. We're in a simulation, don't you worry though. The Black Knight said a lot, he told me so. I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish. Heck, we'll fish out Thursday nights with AJ2.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And the weapons will make beat all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the wild boars have me beat all through the night Heckle fish on Thursday nights when they chase you And the wild boars have to beat all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the wild boars love to beat all through the night Gertie loves to dance, Gertie loves to dance, Gertie loves to dance, Gertie loves to dance, Gertie loves to dance Gertie loves to dance on the dance floor, because she is a camel
Starting point is 00:39:38 Camels love to dance when the feeling is right on wasting time.

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