The Why Files: Operation Podcast - 613: The UFO Conspiracy That Took Down JFK

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

June 1947. Harbor patrolman Harold Dahl witnesses six metallic objects over Maury Island, Washington. One drops molten slag onto his boat. A stranger in a black suit arrives the next morning, knowing ...details Dahl shared with no one. Two military investigators examine the debris. Their plane crashes. The evidence vanishes. Sixteen years later, witness Fred Crisman surfaces in the JFK assassination investigation. Declassified files reveal he was a CIA disruption agent. On November 12, 1963, Kennedy issues a classified memo demanding UFO disclosure and cooperation with the Soviets. Ten days later, he's gone. The same operatives who investigated UFOs in 1947 appear connected to Dallas. Guy Banister. Allen Dulles. Fred Crisman. The UFO case might have been a hoax. But what it exposed was real.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 June 1947, Boat Captain Harold Dahl watched a formation of UFOs drop molten metal over Puget Sound. The debris wrecked his boat, burned his son and killed his dog. terrible things started to happen to Dahl's family, beginning with a visit from a mysterious stranger in a black suit. Over the next 15 years, about a dozen people connected to this UFO sighting died mysteriously. Investigators, military officers, journalists, but the most dramatic death of all, John F. Kennedy. On June 21, 1944, Harold Dahl was patrolling around Morrie Island with his 15-year-old son Charles,
Starting point is 00:01:05 a crewman, and his dog Sparky. They were looking for straight timber that had fallen off of boats. Timber companies paid for Andy Logs returned to them. Around two that afternoon, Charles pointed at the sky. Six donut-shaped objects hovered about 2,000 feet above the water. Harold cut the engine, the objects made no sound. Each was about 100 feet wide with a hole in the center. They looked like massive metallic tires with port-hound.
Starting point is 00:01:30 holes around the outer rim. Five of the objects floated in a circle around the sixth, which was losing altitude and moving radically. Yeah, was my ex-wife driving? No. Because swerving out of control, leaking fluids, and ruining vacations. That's just speciality. She wasn't driving. The craft was directly over the boat, maybe 500 feet above them. Harold could see into it through the windows. Did he see my ex-wife in there? No. Do you want to hear about the UFOs or not?
Starting point is 00:01:58 Sorry, sorry, I'm so hard bringing a little resentment. Go ahead. The wobble got worse. Then there was a deep but harsh crack. Then the craft started dumping material. Thousands of strips of thin metal rained down like confetti. Then came the heavy stuff. White hot liquid metal.
Starting point is 00:02:17 The hot metal hissed when it hit the water. Then heavy pieces slammed into the boat. Some the size of a baseball, but some as big as tires. Charles screamed when a piece burned through a. shirt. Another hit their dog Sparky, killing him instantly. Oh, that's stupid. They should have brought their kit. Stop it. Harold tried the radio, but the equipment was dead. Harold had seen enough. He fired up the engine and ran the boat onto the beach. They hid in the trees and watched.
Starting point is 00:02:46 The damaged craft rose and rejoined the formation. All six accelerated toward the open ocean. The encounter lasted about 20 minutes. Harold said maybe 20 tons of material had fallen from the craft. He took photographs, the objects in flight, the debris field, the damaged boat. That night, he met his business partner Fred Christman, who doubted the story. The next morning, Crispin sailed to Moray Island to see for himself. He found the debris exactly where Harold said it would be, covering the beach for hundreds of yards. Some pieces were still warm. Then he looked up. One of the craft hovered silently for five minutes before vanishing. He had the proof, photographs, physical evidence, and now his only
Starting point is 00:03:27 sighting. Later that day, a stranger arrived at Doll's door, black suit, black hat, brand new Buick with no plates, and somehow this man knew every detail about the event. Harold Doll had just met history's first, Men in Black.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The stranger in Black sat across from Harold in Tacoma. He ordered breakfast, but he never touched him. It's a power move. Men and Black Art is intimidating when they're eating waffles. He already knew Harold's name, the names of his wife and son. He knew everything about the incident, the craft, the debris.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Charles burned arm. He knew about Sparky. He even knew that Harold was hiding on the island watching the craft. The stranger told Harold to keep quiet or bad things might happen to him and his family. Harold ignored the warning. He talked to family, friends, even the press. And the next day, the story hit the papers. Then the tragedy started.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Charles vanished. Weeks later, he was found in Montana busing tables, with no memory of who he was or how he got there. And a few days later, he was hit by a car. Then Harold's wife became suddenly ill. His business was vandalized. His family was constantly threatened. Harold got the message.
Starting point is 00:04:52 But Fred Christman wouldn't stay quiet. He contacted Ray Palmer, editor of Amazing Stories, magazine that covered the paranormal and UFOs and science fiction. Palmer asked Kenneth Arnold to investigate. Arnold was a pilot and deputy field marshal. He became famous for his own UFO sighting near Mount Rainier just three days after the Moray Island incident. Arnold described the objects as moving like saucers skipping across water.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Reporters called them flying saucers, and the name stuck. There was so many sightings of UFOs in the area during this time, that it was called the Summer of Saucers. I remember, Roswell would happen just a few weeks later. Arnold flew to Tacoma on July 29th with United Airlines Captain E.J. Smith. Smith had also seen UFOs that summer. They met Harold and Christman at the Winthrop Hotel
Starting point is 00:05:41 and examined the debris. The medal looked ordinary, but Arnold still found the story compelling. Late that night, just as Kenneth Arnold and E.J. Smith were getting ready for bed, the foerang. This message is sponsored by Greenlight. Some things about growing up are universal, like getting your first bit of money and immediately blowing it on candy with no clue how to save or invest.
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Starting point is 00:07:12 every detail of their private conversations, names, times, even the UFO description. Morello wanted more information. Look, Arnold, all I'm saying is I'm going to get the information. I'd rather get it directly from the source. Captain Smith grabbed the phone, shouted a few obscenities, and hung up. At first, they blew it off. But after thinking about it, they became concerned that they might be caught up in an espionage plot.
Starting point is 00:07:37 They started to panic. They swept the room for bugs, but they didn't find any. But later, it was discovered that the intercom in the room had been converted into a microphone. Someone was listening. How did they know which room the bug? Well, when Arnold got to Tacoma, all the hotels were booked. But for some reason, the Winthrop had a room registered in his name. Arnold assumed Ray Palmer had bought him his room.
Starting point is 00:07:59 He didn't. The next morning, he called two military intelligence officers he trusted, Captain William Davidson and Lieutenant Frank Brown. They specialized in UFO cases. They arrived two days later. When Arnold told them about the room being bugged, they weren't worried about it. This didn't help Kenneth Arnold's growing paranoia.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Harold refused to speak with military intelligence, but Crispin was excited to. He relayed to every detail of the story. The meeting lasted for hours. And before he left, Chrisman gave the officers 30 pieces of metallic debris in a cornflakes box. I hope alien metal doesn't get soggy and milk. The officers left after midnight with the UFO samples.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Their B-25 flew out of McCourt Air Base at 1.30 a.m. Two hours later, the plane went down. Two hours into the flight, the B-25's left engine caught fire. Davidson tried to stabilize the aircraft, and Brown ordered the two crewmen to strap on parachutes and bail. They landed safely. Investigators did not. The bomber crashed near Kelso, Washington.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Davidson and Brown died on impact. Their bodies were recovered, but the UFO debris was gone. And nobody knows what happened to the evidence, but some think it was taken by the FBI. The FBI was quietly following the more. Island incident. They quietly followed all UFO reports. In July 1947, the FBI investigated a UFO case in Twin Falls, Idaho. A crash disk was found and turned over to Special Agent Guy Bannister. Yeah, you said to... Wait for it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:39 All of this is documented in FBI files labeled Security Matter X, SMX for short, the FBI's real X files. They dealt with strange cases, UFOs, unexplained phenomena, things that they couldn't acknowledge to the public. Researchers were aware of the X-Files, but the FBI didn't discuss it. They weren't officially declassified until just a few weeks before I wrote this. The Moray Island UFO incident attracted the attention of FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover. Reporting for the Tacoma Times, Paul Lance released the names of the officers killed before the military announced them. He also reported that an anonymous source told him the plane was shot down with a 20-millimeter cannon.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Who shot it down? Well, the official report is, that the left engine had a mechanical failure. Yeah, cannon size a hole, do that. FBI agents interviewed Harold and Fred, and the pressure was getting intense. Two Air Force officers were dead, and the press was calling it sabotage. Harold won it out. After retelling his story, he finally admitted there were no UFOs.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Fred Crispin also said it was just a joke. J. Edgar Hoover told the agents to close the case. But Special Agent Jack Wilcox corrected Hoover. We have the memo. Wilcox wrote the doll didn't admit to a hoax. He only said he would call it a hoax to avoid trouble. He'd rather be known as a liar than someone who saw a UFO. Privately, he still said the story was true, and so did Chrisman.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Soon after the investigation, Paul Lance, the reporter, died of sudden meningitis at age 29. Doctors never found the cause. The Tacoma Times folded a year later. Fred Chrisman was recalled to military service and sent to Alaska. Harold Dahl disappeared from Tacoma. someone was tying up loose ends. But Fred Christman would resurface in Dallas 16 years later when he was photographed near the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza
Starting point is 00:11:33 during a presidential motorcade. Fred Christman wasn't just a harbor patrolman who witnessed something strange over Puget Sound. Years later, classified Duffalo. Documents revealed, there is much more to his story. Tactical fighter experimental. Nobody knows what those words need, but that's a thing. The tactical fighter experimental will serve the forces of freedom
Starting point is 00:12:05 and will be the number one airplane in the world today. It's been a good deal of discussion of the long and hard-fought competition. to win the TFX contract, but very little discussion about what this plane will do. Crispin was a decorated fighter pilot who flew 211 combat missions in World War II. In 1942, he was recruited by the Office of Strategic Services, the OSS. After the war, the USS became the CIA, and Chrisman went with them. The easy papers exposed his real job, career disruption agent.
Starting point is 00:12:49 He monitored targets and fed them disinformation. information. Chrisman has served many years as an active agent for the old OSS and later the CIA. He is rated and extended agent. He is an information specialist and highly trained in internal security. He has worked overseas and has served as a regular United States Air Force officer. But his primary training has always been slanted in the direction of disruption work inside the borders of the United States.
Starting point is 00:13:21 ran businesses that existed only on paper, no goods, no services, no employees. In 1966, FBI informants tracked him moving $100,000 in cash to California. The FBI looked the other way. Then there was his political work. He gathered intelligence on American politicians and submitted more than a thousand reports to the CIA. He fed damaging information to political opponents. Now, this guy sounds like Christopher Steele. Ah, what's our rule?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, I know. We don't choke about the Clintons, I know. By 1963, Chrisman was part of a network of far-right anti-communist anti-Castro CIA operatives. But this network had a problem. John F. Kennedy wanted to dismantle the CIA and make peace with the Soviet Union. To people like Christman, Kennedy wasn't a president. He was a traitor. A group of men with deep ties to the government, military, and intelligence community decided JFK had to go.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah. Pack your bags. Operation Lancer is a go. Understood. Were they combined military civilian defense payroll? I don't recite these for any partisan purpose. They're the result of America. determination to be second to none. And as a result of the effort,
Starting point is 00:14:52 that this country has made in the last three years, we are second to none. In the past three years, we have increased the defense budget of the United States by over 20%. Increased the program of acquisition for Polaro submarines from Dallas, Texas,
Starting point is 00:15:15 the Flash apparently Flash, apparently official, President Kennedy, died at 1 p.m. Central Standard Time. 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, some 38 minutes ago. New Orleans was chosen for planning. It was close to Latin America and Cuba, and local authorities were infamous for being on the take. And the city was full of anti-communist operatives. Clay Shaw was New Orleans businessman connected. to two CIA front companies.
Starting point is 00:15:49 He provided cash and intelligence while maintaining his cover as a respected community leader. Shaw denied CIA involvement, but years later, the agency admitted he was a valuable asset. In 1967, Norland's DA, Jim Garrison, launched the only criminal investigation
Starting point is 00:16:05 into JFK's murder. Shaw was charged and arrested. His first call after arrest? Fred Chrisman. Crispin made repeated trips to New Orleans and Dallas in 1963. Some suspected he was one of the shooters at Dealey Plaza. Then there was Guy Bannister, the FBI agent who investigated UFO crashes in 1947.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Bannister coordinated with military intelligence during the Moray Island investigation. Fred Christman is thought to be the anonymous source, feeding him information. After leaving the FBI, Bannister became a private investigator in New Orleans, but he wasn't running a typical PI business. Witnesses saw crates of military. military-grade weapons moving through the building. And Fred Christman's trips to New Orleans that year weren't vacations. Witnesses saw him at Bannister's office multiple times, meeting with other conspirators.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Some say he delivered cash. Others say he delivered something else. Documents from the Moria Island investigation. Reports about a UFO crash and debris that didn't match any known aircraft. Bannister's office was the primary hub for plotting against Kennedy. Now, this might sound unlikely, but the conspirators overlooked one detail that connected them all. Bannister's Detective Agency was located at 531 Lafayette Street in New Orleans, but the building sat on a corner. It had another entrance, another address, 544 Camp Street.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Now, this address is important because it was the home base of the most famous conspirator of all. Lee Harvey Oswant. This web of conspiracy ran from Puget Sound to New Orleans to Dallas, 16 years of covert operations spanning UFO cover-ups and political assassinations. And the covert operators had a motive powerful enough to kill a president. President Kennedy engaged in secret peace talks with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev. They discussed cooperation, not common. confrontation. They talked about ending the Cold War. Kennedy even proposed a joint U.S. Soviet
Starting point is 00:18:19 space program to explore the moon together. Oh, the Russians would like the weather in Burbank when they filmed that? Not now, please. To prove his commitment to peace, Kennedy made a gesture of ultimate trust. He decided to reveal America's most protected secret. Why hot dogs coming packs of ten, but buns only coming packs of eight? No. How to fold the finished sheet? No. What's really in a McRib? No. He wanted to declassify all UFO files.
Starting point is 00:18:49 On November 12th, 1963, just 10 days before his death, Kennedy issued two memos. The first was National Security Action Memorandum 271. I have initiated a program for the orderly declassification of all UFO intelligence files affecting national security. I have instructed the CIA director to prepare a program for the sharing of this data with NASA, where it can be put to use in the context of the space and lunar exploration program. The second memo was classified top secret. Kennedy sent it directly to the director of the CIA. Furthermore, I have requested that the CIA develop a program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union
Starting point is 00:19:31 in the field of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals. I have asked the CIA work closely with the Department of State and other agencies as appropriate in developing this program. To former CIA director Alan Dulles, who Kennedy hit fired after the Bay of Pigs disaster, this wasn't diplomacy, it was treason. Dulles had overseen the UFO cover-up since 1947. He'd investigated the Moray Island incident. He knew what technology the government had recovered from alien craft.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Kennedy was demanding access to the biggest secret in human history. history, and he planned to share it with America's enemy. Ending the Cold War might be good for humanity, but it was bad for business. The defense industry was already furious with John F. Kennedy. He awarded the largest defense deal in history to general dynamics. Everyone expected it to go to Boeing, the cornerstone of the military industrial complex. But because of JFK, Boeing and its network of powerful allies had just lost a fortune. Especially all the people in Congress who bought Boeing's stockhead of the announcement.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Thank you. No doubt about that. Jim Garrison did some more digging. He found that Boeing used to have an employee they called a chaos agent. The man allegedly committed corporate espionage. He spread disinformation. He even killed people on behalf of the company. And that chaos agent was Fred Chrisman. Chrisman is a former employee of the Boeing company. In intelligence terminology, this ordinarily means that the connection still exists, but that the former employee, has moved into an underground operation. Chrisman has been engaged in undercover activity for a part of the industrial warfare complex for years. The cabal assembled the team. CIA operatives, mobsters, Cuban exiles, businessmen like Clay Shaw brought in locals
Starting point is 00:21:31 like David Ferry and Guy Bannister. And the man nobody talks about, but who shows up everywhere is Fred Chrisman. The network that silenced Harold Dahl was activated again. But this time they needed someone to take the fall, someone with the perfect background to be blamed. And that man was Lee Harvey Oswald.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Oswald had served as an aviation electronics operator in the Marines. In 1957, he was stationed at Naval Air Facility Atsugi in Japan, one of the most secret bases in the world, home of the U-2 spy plane program developed at Area 51. Oswald worked on the radar systems with crypto clearance. He tracked U-2 flights. He knew their flight patterns, altitudes, and capabilities. And two years after Oswald left Atsugi, the Soviets shot down a U-2 over Russia.
Starting point is 00:22:22 The man accused of killing the president had direct access to America's most sensitive technology, and somehow the Soviets got that same information. The assassination of John F. Kennedy was a coup, designed to protect the biggest secret in human history. We were just weeks away from ending the Cold War and full UFO disclosure. But... But all of that ended on the 22nd November, 1963. In 1969, a photograph surfaced, three men being arrested behind the grassy knoll at Delea Plaza,
Starting point is 00:22:59 minutes after Kennedy's assassination. They're known as the three hobos were the three tramps. But these men don't look like hobos. Clean clothes, well-fed, fresh shades, Jim Garrison believed they were intelligence operatives, part of the plot to kill JFK, possibly even the shooters. Researchers spent decades trying to identify them. Some say E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, both intelligence operatives, both part of the Watergate
Starting point is 00:23:27 break-in team, the White House plumbers. Woody Harrelson's father, Charles Harrelson, was a contract killer. Forensic analysis matched him to the youngest tramp. Career criminal Chauncey Marvin Holt claimed he worked for the CIA on multiple operations. The Bay of Pigs invasion, targeting communist leaders. He said the CIA sent him to Dallas. And look at tramp number three, the older man with the hat. That looks like Fred Christman.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But nobody knows for sure. Dallas police didn't cooperate with early investigations. They finally released their records in 1989. They identified the tramps as John Gedney, Gus Abrams, and Harold Doyle. When spoken with a Texas accent, Harold Doyle sounds like Harold Dahl. These photographs were discovered for four years. Private researcher Richard Sprague found them buried in newspaper archives. By then, the men had vanished.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Garrison subpoenaed Fred Crispin on October 31st, 1968. Remember, when Clayshaw was arrested, he made one phone call, not to his lawyer, not to family, to Fred Christman. Crispin testified for about an hour before the grand jury. His testimony doesn't match reality. He said he'd never been to New Orleans before 1966, but records. showed multiple trips in the early 1960s. He said he didn't know Clayshaw or Guy Bannister. Multiple witnesses place him in Bannister's office.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Crispin did admit to knowing Thomas Beckham, a local entertainer and anti-castro activist. When pressed about their relationship, Crispin said he was helping Beckham get into the record business. Yeah, he was going to help him make a few hits. Hey, see what I did there? Very clever. But Beckham was also filing documents for anti-castro operations
Starting point is 00:25:09 and handling money for Guy Bannister's network. In 1966, Christman and Beckham incorporated seven businesses in Olympia, Washington, most of them shell companies. Beckham testified that he visited Bannister's office all the time. Fred Christman said he knew nothing about that. Garrison believed one of the bullets that hit Kennedy came from the fence behind the grassy knoll, and he believed Fred Christman pulled the trigger, but he couldn't prove it.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Couldn't prove it. The guy's connected to CIA, U.S. and a guy who got their first phone call. What do you need? A signed confession notarized by a lizard people? That's not how the legal system works. The legal system. That's what they want you to believe.
Starting point is 00:25:51 The real system involves secret handshakes, LSD, and making sure your star witness doesn't accidentally fall out of window. Crispin was dismissed and never charged. Clay Shaw was found not guilty. But Garrison never stopped believing that, for some reason, a man who witnessed the UFO crash in 1947, a man with deep ties to the intelligence community and a man who is openly and loudly extremely far-right
Starting point is 00:26:14 and anti-communist was on the grassy knoll at Dili Plaza on November 22nd, 1963. This isn't supposed to be a JFK video. I've tried to stick with Fred Christman and the Moray Island UFO. Oh, if you want a deeper dive on JFK, let me know there's plenty there. The claim is that the assassination of JFK wasn't just political. It was an operation to protect the biggest secret in human history, the discovery and reverse engineering of UFOs.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And rabbit holes don't get much deeper than this. So what's true? Well, 60 years later, some facts are documented. Others remain speculation. The debris allegedly on the B25 disappeared. Skeptics say the metallic rocks were industrial, slag from a nearby smelting company. Pieces of UFO is industrial slag.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And that's like called a fabashe egg of chicken rock. Skeptics also point out that after Kenneth Arnold saw his flying saucers near Mount Rainier, UFO sightings exploded across the country. Now, Dahl and Christman might have been lying for money, trying to get their story published. Crispin did have a letter published in Harper's Magazine in 1946, where he described battling creatures in an underground cave. He published a second letter in Amazing Stories in May 1947, two months before the Moray Island incident. Fred Christman does have connections to the JFK assassination, but the evidence is circumstantial.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Jim Garrison was criticized for making connections without hard evidence, relying mostly on witness statements. The House Select Committee on Assassinations said there was likely a conspiracy. They never confirmed Crispin's involvement, and the photographed allegedly showing him near Dealey Plaza is grainy. It looks like Crispin to me, but it's hard to be sure. To this day, nobody knows for sure who they are. The plane crash happened. That's documented. But the military said it had nothing to do with the Moray Island investigation.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Oh, the military said so. We'll pack it up, everyone. The military never lies. Case closed. Lee Harvey Oswald did work on the YouTube program at a Tsugi base in Japan, But thousands of people did. Thousands of people had clearance for classified programs. It doesn't prove that he was part of a UFO cover-up.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But some facts won't go away. In 1959, Lee Harvey Oswald defected to the Soviet Union. He renounced his citizenship and said he'd provide military secrets, which we know he had. He found a job. He met his future wife, Marina. Then in 1961, he came back. And typically, when a defector wants to return from the Soviet Union, they face intense scrutiny. They have to negotiate with both governments.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's a long, difficult process. Permission isn't always granted. But Lee Harvey Oswald came back with no problem. The U.S. State Department even loaned him the money. They provided his wife with a visa. Ah, the old secret agent, welcome home package. Comes with a loan, a wife, and an alibi. Nice work if you can get it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Oh, there's more. They're always safe. Special agent Jack Wilcox's memo to Jay Edgar Hoover directly contradicts the official narrative. Remember, Wilcox reported that Dahl didn't actually admit to a hoax. He said Dahl would call it a hoax to avoid trouble, but privately insisted the story was true. And this is in the classified FBI files. Crispin also said the UFO sighting was real. He said so in 1967 to UFO researcher Gary Leslie.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I will tell you this much. The Mori Island incident was no hoax. The FBI and the Air Force know it was no hoax. The pieces of the UFO that are still in our possession, have proven that it was no hoax. Most of you play games, make a silly hobby out of a matter that should scare you to death. I have little patience with most of your organizations. Fred Crispin's CIA involvement is confirmed in the Easy Papers. He was a career disruption agent who ran disinformation operations inside the United States. Guy Bannister investigated the Moray Island UFO case for the FBI.
Starting point is 00:30:31 He operated out of 544 Camp Street in New Orleans. Lee Harvey Oswald worked at that same address. This connection is documented. Kennedy's November 12th, 1963 memos are real. He requested cooperation with the Soviet Union on space exploration. He demanded access to UFO files 10 days before his assassination. Alan Dulles, who Kennedy fired, was appointed to Warren Commission investigating his death. And nobody can explain why Alan Dulles, who despised the president, was put on that commission.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And publicly, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, accepted. accepted the Warren Commission report, but according to his son, R. F.K. Jr., he privately called it a shoddy piece of craftsmanship. Shottie? That's an insult to shoddy craftsmen everywhere. There's a 60-year cutter-up. You know, the Warren Commission was run by Alan Dulles, who was ahead of the CIA. Who, my uncle fired. Congress found that, yeah, it was a plot.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It was a conspiracy. There were multiple people involved. It was my father's first instinct. That agency had killed his brother. And we all know it happened to RFK Senior. President, quite a one has been shot. Is that possible? Senator Robert Francis Kennedy died at 144 a.m. today.
Starting point is 00:32:04 The Warren Commission's investigation was deliberately incomplete. The CIA withheld thousands of documents. They're holding them still. Witnesses were ignored. Evidence was suppressed. Declassified files now reveal the CIA actively obstructed the investigation. The cover-up is no longer theory. It's documented fact.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Kennedy awarded a major defense contract to General Dynamics instead of Boeing. This cost the military industrial complex billions. Fred Christman worked for Boeing. The biggest mystery isn't whether UFOs drop debris over Puget Sound. It's the connections that followed. The same people who investigated UFO cases in 1947 show up in the JFK assassination 16 years later. Guy Bannister, Fred Christman, Alan Dulles, same addresses, same witness intimidation, same classified operations. Now, maybe Harold Dahl made up the UFO story.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Maybe the plane crash was mechanical failure. And maybe every connection is a coincidence. No such thing is a coincidence. That's like finding out your proctologist and your dentist's share in office. Something stinks and it takes the fluoride. Kennedy did demand UFO disclosure. He planned to share classified information with the Soviet Union. Two years earlier, Kennedy laid out his vision for space.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Now it is time to take longest stride. Time for a great new American enterprise. Time for this nation to take a clearly leading role in space achievements. which in many ways may hold the key to our future on Earth. Kennedy threatened the military industrial complex, and about the CIA, he said, I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds. Ten days after demanding access to the UFO files, he was dead.
Starting point is 00:33:55 The UFO might have been a hoax, but the conspiracy it exposed is real. The cover-up didn't end in 1963, the same agencies that, Probably killed Kennedy still operate with the same secrecy. The same classification systems still hide the truth. The CIA says they're protecting America from its enemies. But the more you look, the more you realize, they're protecting themselves. America's most dangerous enemy isn't Russia or China or Iran. It's the CIA.
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Starting point is 00:38:31 Until next time, be safe. Be kind. And know that you are appreciated. I play for Libbyus in an area. It's cold inside the Bible said I would. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing like I should. But then another piece for your see theory becomes the truth, my friends, and it never ends.
Starting point is 00:39:19 No, it never ends. I fear the crap cat and got stuck inside males' hole with M.K. Altruc are being only two of where. Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set were the shadow people there? The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man. I'm told, and his name was cold. cold. I can't believe.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm dancing with the fishes. Hecklefish on Thursday, next Wednesday, J-2, and the wife are suffering all through the night. All I ever wanted was could just hear the truth, so the world falls on your feet all through the night. The Mouthman sightings and the solar storms still come to have got the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets are both to Project Stargate and where the dark watchers found. Simulation, don't you worry though
Starting point is 00:40:58 The black night said a lot it told me so I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish Heck of fish on Thursday nights when they chase you And the wildfires have been all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth the truth, so the white balls are repeat all through the night. Henkelfish on Thursday next when they chase you,
Starting point is 00:41:29 and the wilds have to repeat all through the night. All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth, so the world falls on repeat all through the night. Gertie loves to dance Gertie loves to dance Gertie loves to dance Yeah, Gertie love to dance I'm a dance wall Because she is a camel
Starting point is 00:42:04 And camels love to dance When the feeling is right on wasting time Gertie love to dance Gertie love to dance You know, Thank you.

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