The Why Files: Operation Podcast - Prophecy of the Popes | Saint Malachy's Countdown

Episode Date: July 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:14 17 days later, white smoke rose from the Sistine Chapel. Robert Prevost stepped onto the balcony as Leo the 14th, the first American pope. Rome was fine. The prophecy failed. But did it? Because buried inside the original Latin, There's a countdown. The list doesn't end with the Pope. It ends during a year. That year is 2027.
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Starting point is 00:03:29 He was a long way from home, and his heart was heavy. Maliki traveled from Ireland to Rome to support the new Pope after years of chaos. Innocent II spent eight years fighting arrival for control of the church. It began as an internal political feud, but escalation. into a military campaign that drew in most of Europe. Innocent won the war, but it left a scar. He saw first hand that the papacy could be destroyed, and the entire church with it.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That night, Maliki prayed, not just for the Pope, for all popes, for the church itself. Then, God answered. Maliki felt a vibration growing in his body, like electricity, but the energy was coming from him. Then he had a vision. It's such a good vibration. It's such a good vibration.
Starting point is 00:04:14 A sweet sensation. How'd we get there? Maliki-Mack and a funky punch. Okay, can you not make heretical jokes during my setup? Oh, my jokes are hysterical. Heretical. What I say. Maliki saw Pope after Pope, man after man, century after century.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But not names or faces, images, a castle above a river, an eagle with open claws, a sliver of a moon, an image for every Pope who would ever live. Maliki made a list of the visions. each a short phrase in Latin, 112 popes, one after another. Then one final vision. A city on Seven Hills burning. The End of the World.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Judgment Day. He gave the manuscript to Pope Ithuset II as a comfort. The Pope who almost lost the papacy now had proof that the line of Peter runs unbroken until the end of the world. But a list that ends with the apocalypse isn't a comfort, it's a countdown. a countdown. Pope Innocent knew how dangerous this was. He locked the manuscript in the Vatican archives and never spoke of it again. Nobody knew it existed. Then in 1590, somebody found it, hidden for 450 years. 74 popes came and went during that time. St. Maliki was right about all
Starting point is 00:05:34 them. In September 1590, Pope Urban the 7th died just 12 days after his election, so the Cardinals returned to Rome to choose a new pope. But then the document was found, that said the elections never mattered. Four and a half centuries earlier, a saint made a list. Every pope was already predicted. A list was terrifying enough, but what really upset the church was how the list ended. The Cardinals needed to know if the list was real, so they turned to Alfonso Chacon. He was the most respected papal story in the live.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He literally wrote a book called The Lives of the Popes. If anyone could verify this list, it was him. The lives of two popes, gravity, it too mamatarian. I had no idea of prolific he was. Chacon, not Quaron. This is Papa. You only go, Papa. Let's call the whole thing you are. So Chacon started checking the phrases that Maliki used to identify each pope. Each phrase is called a motto, a few words that capture the man. The first motto is
Starting point is 00:06:41 X Castro Tiberus, from a castle on the Tiber. The first pope on the list was Celestine the second, elected in 1143. He was born in Chita di Castello, Castle Town, on the banks of the Tiber River. Maliki was right. The second entry says, Enimicos ex-pulsus, the enemy driven out. That was Lucius II, a pope at war with Rome's own Senate. They stripped him of the title. When Lucius led an assault to take it back,
Starting point is 00:07:07 he was stoned to death. Maliki was right again. Another is Seuss in Cribro, a pig in a sieve. That sounds like a hard motto to pin on a priest, but Pope Urban III's family name was Cribelli. And the Italian word for Sib is Crivello. And the Criveli family crest included a pig. See, this is my problem with visions.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You're God. You're omnipotent. Why symbols? Just send names, dates, a spreadsheet. Prophecy doesn't really work like a spreadsheet. That's why it took him 400 years to solve it. One tab, two columns. Pope, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But no, you gotta be, gotta get me pittin a sleeve. Siv. Whatever. He checked 74 entries. Maliki was right 74 times. This was a big deal in 1590. The Reformation was tearing Christianity. Christianity in half. Protestant preachers called the Pope the Antichrist and said the papacy was living its final days.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And here was a 450-year-old prophecy promising 38 more popes to come. Maliki's document was a guarantee of survival. The same list that comforted a pope in 1139 now comforted the whole church. In 1595, Benedictine monk Arnold Vion published a full list so the world could read it. Three columns, the motto, the Pope had matched, and Chacon's notes. But Chacon's notes stop at entry number 74, or in the 7th. It was 1590, so Chacombe could only solve the popes of the past. The rest of the list predicts the future. Oh, dear God, this guy had the Catholic Sports Albuick.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He could have been a fortune, but he public-domain did it? You rooted for Biff, didn't you? Back-browned, did business with terrorists, was best friends with a team boy, and created God-nose-n-nows-how-many-degro-timelines, and Biff is the villain. When you put it that way. Justitio pro-bif. Put that in your prophecy, it's a little. And at the very bottom of the list, the future ends.
Starting point is 00:08:58 The last entry isn't a motto, it's a full paragraph, and names the final pope, Peter the Roman, the man on the throne when Rome burns. But even though Maliki predicted 74 popes in order, there were still skeptics. So they looked into St. Maliki to see if he made any other predictions that came true. They didn't like what they found. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Here's something interesting. We live in a moment where talking about mental health is not. normal. It's on TV, it's on social media, it's everywhere. So you think actually reaching out
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Starting point is 00:10:44 the Office of Archbishop of Arma, the highest Catholic seat in Ireland, and they ran it like a monarchy. The title passed from Father to Son, and most of them weren't even priests. In office you inherit, don't need qualifications for and can't be fired from. So, Congress. Armed clans defended the arrangement, and challenging, it was a good way to die. Maliki challenged it. He took the office, pushed the family out, and survived. Then he did something nobody ever does after winning a war. He walked away, back to the
Starting point is 00:11:13 work he cared about, rebuilding monasteries, reforming the clergy, tying the Irish church closer to Rome. Tying the Irish closer to the church. That's like trying to find a tight link between fiery lamb, Vindaloo, and diarrhea. That's like trying to find a tight link between petty theft in Florida. That's like trying to find a petal link between cocaine and a business idea. Yeah, bang the three for you, take your pick. You already know why Maliki went to Rome, and you know what he did there. Here's what happened on the road. On the way south, he stopped at Clarego Abbey. Its abbot, Bernard, had so much influence, even Popes asked him for advice. Kings read his letters. Crusaders listened when he spoke. Bernard
Starting point is 00:11:51 was a monk at a small monastery in France. How does that man get this kind of power? Because St. Bernard was an early patron and leader of the Knights Templar, a good friend to have. Maliki arrived with no army, no wealth, and no political office, but Bernard treated him like an equal anyway. The men became close friends. Years later, back in Ireland, the monks asked Maliki where he would die. Maliki said, Claire Ball. They asked him when he would die. Maliki said All Souls Day, the Day of the Dead.
Starting point is 00:12:20 In 1148, Maliki headed back to Rome, but he never made it. By the time he reached Claervaux, he was burning with fever. He died at Clairvaux on November 2nd, All Souls Day, just as he predicted. He was 54 years old. Again, back to the spreadsheets. He knew when he was going to die. The guy got a fever. If I find out he substitutes toward the kindergarten a week before...
Starting point is 00:12:42 You're missing the point. Guy predicts his shoe was going to smell in 1140. So he steps on a horse, he grumped that march and says, see? Bernard wrote a biography of St. Maliki. He said, Call it a wish or call it a problem. prophecy, either way, Maliki was right. That's the man behind the list, and that's why Rowan believed it. When Maliki predicted something, it happened. He became the first Irish saint ever canonized by a pope. But everything Chacon verified was already history. From 1595 forward,
Starting point is 00:13:12 the motto's had to predict the future. Again, people were skeptical, especially about the motto that described a bronze eagle dragging a pope away. But 200 years later, that's exactly what happened. That bronze eagle belonged to Napoleon Bonaparte, and before the eagle was finished, the list would name two popes in a row. The first was Pius the Sixth. His motto reads Peregrinos apostolicos, the apostolic traveler. During the French Revolution, troops stormed Rome and pulled Pius VI off his throne. He died in 1799, a prisoner in the south of France, the apostolic traveler buried far from home. The very next model reads Aquila Rapa. The rapacious eagle.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Rapacious means greedy, aggressive, and never satisfied. But Maliki wasn't describing the new Pope. Pius I seventh. He described the man coming for him. Napoleon wanted the Pope to crown him emperor as proof of God's will. Pius agreed on one condition. Napoleon and his wife Josephine never had a church wedding, and the Pope refused to crown a couple living in sin.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So the day before his coronation, Napoleon got married in secret. Then at the ceremony, he took the crown out of the Pope's hands and placed it on his own head. That wasn't enough for Napoleon. Nothing ever was. He decided the Pope should answer to him. Pius objected, and Napoleon was excommunicated. Napoleon sent soldiers into the papal palace in the middle of the night. They arrested the Pope, dragged him out of Rome, and held him prisoner for years.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And those soldiers marched under Napoleon's standard, a bronze eagle. The rapacious eagle took the Pope, just as Maliki predicted, 670 years earlier. The list continued. Crookeste Cruce, cross from a cross, for Pius 9th. When the Royal House of Savoy took Rome, it stripped the Pope of his lands. It ended a thousand years of papal rule over central Italy. The emblem on every Savoy banner was a white cross. Pius the 9th lost his kingdom to a cross.
Starting point is 00:15:20 The next motto was Lumen Chilo, a light in the sky, for Leo the 13th. On his family crest was a comet, streaking across a blue sky. Then the list turned dark. Religio de Populata, religion laid waste. That was for Benedict the 15th. He took the throne in September 1914, just after the start of the First World War. Benedict begged Europe for peace and Europe ignored him. Catholic nations fought other Catholic nations.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Churches became hospitals. Priests climbed into the trenches and died in them. By the end of the war, millions of Christians were dead. And the Russian Revolution happened at the same time. The new government seized the churches, shot the priests, and declared war on God himself. Religion laid waste. On a scale nobody in 1595 could have imagined, but somehow Maliki did. When the list was made public, instead of dismissing or denouncing it, the church started to follow it. In the 17th and 18th centuries, popes had their own mottoes stamped onto their coronation medals.
Starting point is 00:16:19 The prophecy described the popes, and the popes were happy to wear the prophecy. And in 1958, one cardinal tried to step into the prophecy himself. That year, the next motto was, Pastor Ednauta, the shepherd and the sailor. Cardinal Francis Spelman of New York read those words and made a plan. He rented a boat, filled it with sheep, and sailed up and down the Tiber River, a shepherd, and a sailor. Spellman used the motto as a campaign slogan. That is the greatest campaign stunt I've ever heard. Boat, Sheep River, zero notes.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It didn't work. The Cardinals passed on it. Because he peaked too early. You don't do the sheep boat before the conclave. You do the sheep boat after amateur hour. I couldn't want that election. Okay. Newman, go fetch me a pointy hat and start calling me your eminence. A hard pass.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Hard pass your eminence. Instead, they elected Angelo Roncalli as Pope John the 23rd. Roncali was the patriarch of Venice, a city built on water and filled with sailors. As Pope, he called himself a shepherd and urged the church to act like one. The man who chased the prophecy lost, the man who ignored it became the shepherd and the sailor. For Paul the 6th, Floss Florum, the Flower of Flowers. His family's crest carried three fleur-de-lis, three flowers, from the half-moon for Pope John Paul I. Born in Belluno, the beautiful moon, he was elected just as the moon reached its last quarter.
Starting point is 00:17:40 His reign lasted 33 days, one half-moon to the next. Pope after Pope, the list kept hitting. By the end of the 20th century, only two models were left before Peter the Roman. The next motto was De La Bore Solis, the Labor of the Sun. Maliki was right about that one, too. Let's be honest, it wasn't bad luck that cost you that client. Somebody didn't just pick up the phone. It rang and rang and rang,
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Starting point is 00:19:46 Roman is Gloria Olivai, the glory of the olive. In 2005, Joseph Ratzinger was elected and chose the name Benedict. The Benedictines have an order called the Olivetans, their symbol, an olive branch. Maliki was right again. The list was down to one final name, Peter the Roman. After him, nothing. But in 2013, Benedict shocked the world by resigning, the first Pope to ever step down in 600 years. Suddenly, a storm hit Rome and lightning struck St. Peter's Dome. Twice. The list was taunting them, because Benedict officially left office on February 28th, the feast day of St. Romanois. The throne of Peter was empty on the day of the Romans. Twelve days later, the Cardinals entered the conclave, and the whole world was watching for a
Starting point is 00:20:34 Most people expected Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana to be elected. Instead, they chose a long shot, Jorge Mario Burgolia of Argentina, the first Jesuit Pope, first Pope from the Americas. He chose the name Francis. So Maliki was finally wrong? Well, not so fast. Peter the Roman was right there inside the new pope's name. Francis took his name from St. Francis of Assisi,
Starting point is 00:20:58 and the father of St. Francis was called Pietro. Peter. Brugoglio was the son of Italian immigrants. Roman blood on the throne of Rome. The new pope did need to find the name. The name found him. And when Francis stepped onto the balcony, he fulfilled the prophecy.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Peter the Roman, the last pope, and after him, nothing. The prophecy gives Peter the Roman more than a motto. It tells us what happens during his reign. In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter, the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in my name. many tribulations. When these things are finished, the city of Seven Hills will be destroyed,
Starting point is 00:21:55 and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end. The city of Seven Hills is Rome. Peter guides the church through one final persecution, then the city falls. Then comes judgment. You'd expect the Catholic Church to have an opinion about a text that predicts its own annihilation. It doesn't. In 400 years, the Vatican has never condemned the prophecy of the popes, never endorsed it, never denounced it, never ruled on it at all. And this is a church with opinions. When the Da Vinci Code came out, the Vatican told Catholics not to read it. A thriller about a fictional bloodline got condemned. A prophecy describing the destruction of Rome and the death of the church got four centuries of silence. Silence is also an answer. And Maliki wasn't the only one who saw a
Starting point is 00:22:43 Pope inside a ruined city. In 1909, Pope Pius X collapsed. He came back with a terrifying vision, a future Pope fleeing Rome, climbing over the dead bodies of his own priests to escape the Vatican. Eight years later, the Virgin Mary appeared to three shepherd children in field outside Fatima, Portugal.
Starting point is 00:23:01 She showed them hell. She said another world war was coming, and she gave them one final vision, when the world wouldn't learn for decades. The third secret was written down in 1944 and locked inside the Vatican. It stayed sealed until the year 2000. The vision starts with an angel holding a flaming sword.
Starting point is 00:23:19 The blade caught fire ready to burn the world. But the flames died out when they touched the light shining from Mary's hand. Then the angel pointed at the earth and cried out one word three times. Penance, penance, penance. Then the children saw the Holy Father. Across the city and ruins, praying for the souls
Starting point is 00:23:37 of the corpses he passed. Bishops, priests, and ordinary believers followed him up a mountain toward a large, wooden cross. At the top, soldiers opened fire. The Pope fell, the clergy fell. The soldiers killed the believers behind them. The vision ends with two angels gathering the blood of the martyrs and sprinkling it over the souls making their way to God. Three different centuries, three different visions. All of them saw the same thing, a pope walking through the corpses of his own church while the city falls around him. During the reign of Francis, the prophecy seemed to be coming true.
Starting point is 00:24:10 In March 2020, the pandemic closed churches around the world. One rainy day, Francis stood alone in St. Peter Square, prayed to an empty city. No crowd, no choir. One old man in white, alone in the rain, in a square built to hold hundreds of thousands. It looked like the end of the world. It wasn't exactly climbing over corpses, but there were a lot of people dying from COVID. Hold on. Did you say dying from or dying with? Let's not do this again.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Fine, fine, we can discuss again in two weeks after we flatten the cave. War came back to Europe. Churches burned in Africa and Asia, and Christians died for attending them. Inside the Vatican, scandal, scandal, and people kept leaving the church. Whatever many tribulations was supposed to mean, Francis was living it. And across town, in the Basilica of St. Paul outside the walls, the countdown hangs in plain sight. Every pope has a portrait there, a ring of faces circling the church from St. Peter to today, with the current Pope's portrait lit by a spotlight.
Starting point is 00:25:08 They say that when the wall runs out of room for portraits, the world ends. Under Francis, the spotlight was near the end of the row. Francis led the church through 12 years of tribulation. Then in April 21st, 2025, he died. That should have triggered the apocalypse. But Rome didn't burn. Judgment Day didn't come. Instead, a conclave gathered to choose another pope.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Scholars were relieved until they took a closer look at the original prophecy. 400 years ago, the text was published with a misprint. One small error that changed everything. The end of the world prophecy isn't counting down. hopes it all. It's counting down years, and the clock is still ticking. This message is sponsored by Greenlight. Here's something worth thinking about. As kids grow up, parenting gets easier in some ways, but teaching them about money, that part never really does. Kids need hands-on experience, and that's exactly what Greenlight makes possible. Greenlight
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Starting point is 00:27:23 Cardinal Robert Provost took the name Leo the 14th, the first pope from the United States. But he wasn't called Peter, and Rome was still standing. Prophecy researchers were relieved, but also confused. Why were the predictions so accurate except for the last, most important one? The answer was a misprint in the last two lines. In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations. But in the original Latin, that sentence is actually too. In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Then comes a period. Peter the Roman begins on the next line. For centuries, everyone read those two lines as one sentence. That traces to 1624 when editor Thomas Messingham reprinted the prophecy and merged the two paragraphs into one. His version became the standard, and that original break was forgotten. But splitting those two sentences means any number of popes can sit during the final persecution before Peter the Roman appears.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Leo didn't break the prophecy, he filled the gap. The count can also change. The original list wasn't numbered. And it includes several antipopes. An antipope is a rival who challenged the legitimate pope. Remove those, and every later motto moves up one place. In 2021, a German historian ran the count again and removed three antipopes. Under his system, Leo the 14th isn't the last pope.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Two more come after him. And there's another way to change the count. When Benedict resigned in 2013, Francis was elected. But Benedict stayed in the Vatican as Pope Emeritus for years. Some argued that Benedict's resignation was never valid under church law. If that's true, Benedict stayed the true Pope until his death in 2022, and Francis doesn't count at all. And Maliki's list still has room. Then there's 2027.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Buried in the middle of the list is a motto that reads, Axis and Meditante Signy, the axle in the middle of the sign. An axle is the center of a wheel, the point that everything turns around. The model belonged to Pope 6thus V, who took office in 1585. Celestine II, the first pope in the list, took the throne in 1143. Then 442 years later, we get to the middle, the axle, in 1585. Count forward another 442 years. The count ends in 2027.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And 6thus carried a picture of the countdown everywhere he went. His coat of arm shows a lion with an axle laid across its middle. For 400 years, nobody thought much about it, a lion on a shield. Then in 2025, the church elected a pope who took the name Leo. There's the lion. The prophecy pointed to Leo, and it may have pointed at him twice. Remember why Francis fit the final motto? The son of Italian immigrants, Roman blood on the throne of Rome?
Starting point is 00:30:10 Now look closer at the man from Chicago. His grandfather was born in Sicily, and his name was Rigatano. When he came to America, he changed his name to Prevost. The new Pope carries Italian blood and a name that isn't his. Maybe Peter the Roman isn't coming. Maybe he's already on the throne. And Francis behaved like a man who knew. On his first morning as Pope, he didn't go to St. Peter's.
Starting point is 00:30:32 He crossed the city to the Basilica of Santa Maria Major and knelt inside. That church holds the tomb of Pope 6th, the Axel. Twelve years later, when Francis died, he skipped the Vatican where popes are buried and chose Santa Maria Majori for his own grave. Peter Roman rests under the same roof as the Pope whose motto starts the countdown. Even the sky has plans for 2027. On August 2nd of that year, the moon crosses the sun over the Mediterranean and holds there for six minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's a long eclipse. Astronomers already call it the eclipse of the century, and its shadow runs straight across the old Roman world, Spain, North Africa, Egypt. Maliki's list once marked a pope with the late. of the sun. Now the list ends when the sun goes dark. The piece is fit. The prophecy was never about the man. It was about the year. As I write this, we have about six months left until the year of the apocalypse. I always felt like we were in the final days. So now that they're here, go out and enjoy them. But after that, he shall prepare to be judged.
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Starting point is 00:32:15 The Vatican hides as warning. Four centuries later, the world finds it, and the greatest historian in Rome proved it never misses. The prophecy of the popes is one of the all-time greatest stories. But is it true? Yep. Well, let's look at the public record. No, no.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Maliki's vision, the earliest version of that story appeared in 1871, not 1139. The origin story of the prophecy is younger than the teller. I don't like this scene. Can we go back to the lightning scene? The lightning scene was fun. This feels like school. Bernard of Clairvaux wrote a detailed biography of Maliki. He did write that he predicted his own death, but he doesn't mention predictions about popes.
Starting point is 00:32:53 In fact, nobody does. There's no mention of the prophet. for another 400 years. When Vian published the list in 1595, he didn't claim it was found in the Vatican Archive. He never said where it came from, just that people wanted to see it. It is true that Vion included Chacon's comments
Starting point is 00:33:07 to prove the predictions. Small problem. The only accurate predictions already happened. The early models fit because Chacon made them fit. After 1590, precise names and titles became vague phrases like country animal and delight of the cross. These models are vague because Chacon ran out of history. That is, if Chaconne actually had anything to do with the list at all.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Chaconne was a famous scholar who specialized in manuscripts and the papacy. He was alive when the list was released. His name was on it. But he never mentioned it, not ever. Some say his silence proves he had nothing to do with it. So why didn't he refute it? Well, this is the 16th century. It's not like he could file a copyright claim.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He was a serious historian and a priest. He would have distanced himself from the list, not called attention to it. But we're not at a dead end. The real author did leave clues. In 1557, the church historian Anafrio Van Pino published a history of every pope. His book contained a handful of mistakes, and the prophecy repeats those same mistakes. Take the motto for John the 22nd, the bony shoemaker. The printed answer says his father made shoes.
Starting point is 00:34:13 His father was a banker. The shoemaker mistake comes from Panvino's book, and the prophecy used it. The 2027 number is easily debunked. Sixtus is supposed to be the middle of the list. the axle. But he's number 73. That's nowhere near the middle. So even if you believe that 6thus is the axle, we have 20 or more popes to go. That could mean over 100 years. As for the lion, there's been 13 popes named Leo before this one. Put a lion on a list of 100 mottoes, and sooner or later, you'll get a lion. Popes usually choose their second name in honor
Starting point is 00:34:43 of their favorite saint or to honor someone in the Bible they admire. That's a limited selection of names. But one name they never choose is Peter. It would be an insult to take the name of the first pope who was chosen by Jesus himself. Remember the famous line from Matthew 16, and I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I would build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. No pope would elevate himself to Peter. It's just not done, so don't hold your breath for a Peter the Roman. There are some eerie coincidences, though. John 23rd really was the patriarch of Venice. Paul the 6th really did have Florida Lee on his crest. My favorite are the eclipses. They really did happen on the dates of John Paul
Starting point is 00:35:23 the Second's birth and funeral. But there's an eclipse somewhere on the earth every 18 months. The thing is, an eclipse is not visible from everywhere on earth, and the eclipses that are connected to Pope John Paul were invisible from where he was. Speaking of Pope John Paul II, the Vatican interpreted the third secret of Fatima as the violence of the 20th century, and the wounded Pope as John Paul II, who survived being shot in 1981. The vision is real, the children reported it, and the Vatican published a text,
Starting point is 00:35:51 but it's not connected to the prophecy at all. And the two popes theory? Well, that's been rejected and debunked. Benedict was alive. He rejected it, and the theory outlived him anyway. So if the prophecy wasn't a prophecy, then what was it? Probably election propaganda. Remember in 1958, Francis Spellman portrayed himself as a shepherd and a sailor to fit the prophecy?
Starting point is 00:36:12 He wasn't the first to try to manipulate an election. The prophecy was probably a forgery created by Cardinal Jolamo Simanchelli during the election of 1590. The next motto on the list reads, From the Old City. Simicelli's hometown was Orietto, in Latin, the Old City. So he forges a prophecy and gets an endorsement from the world's leading papal scholar, Alfonso Chaconne. Now, maybe Chaconne was in on it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Maybe not. That's still debated. But it doesn't matter. Simiceli lost. He rigged the system and still lost? It sounds like Hillary. Oh, you know the rules. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:45 We don't joke about the curtain. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Go ahead. The prophecy of the popes has been failing for years. And every time it does, the prophecy gets an update to make it fit. The more interesting question is, why? Why are we so fascinated with the end of the world? I am, I love a disaster movie.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Anything post-apocalypse, I'm in. Why? What's my problem? Well, different cultures will have different reasons for the end of the world. Religious cultures will have something like a final judgment, a cleansing catastrophe, a savior returning at the climax of history. More secular cultures use the same pattern. They just change the vocabulary.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Nuclear Armageddon, Superplague, AI takeover, climate apocalypse. Those are all possible. We accept the climate thing. Look, the climate is changing. Mehe. You go living a pot and eat the buds. If you need me, I'll be in a sizzler in Florida,
Starting point is 00:37:33 eating a bone and ribby and ignored Bill Gates. But the one thing all humans have in common is that we're unique in that we know for 100% certainty that we're going to die one day. We just don't know when or how. So even the most brave, stoic, peaceful person has this deep existential dread. We all have it. It's natural to worry.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But we'd rather go out as part of some cosmic trauma, not an accident or illness or some random event. We can't control how many days we have left, but we can't control what we do with those days. So treat tomorrow like it exists. Learn something, love someone, do something that matters, build something that lasts. Don't focus on your death.
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