The Why Files: Operation Podcast - The Titanic Never Sank
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April 1912.
The Titanic hits an iceberg in sinks.
1,500 people die in the most famous shipwreck in history.
Everyone knows the story.
But under oath, the lookout said he didn't see an iceberg.
A crewman swore he saw another ship right where they hit,
and then the ship left.
Over time, more details didn't add up.
Documents, witness statements,
even photographs give clues
that something very different happened that night.
Today, the wreck is two and a half miles down.
Photos of the bow show two letters under the rust,
an M and a P.
There's no M or P in Titanic,
because the ship at the bottom of the Atlantic
isn't the Titanic, and the disaster wasn't an accident.
In September 1911, the biggest ship in the world
was three months old.
It was called the Olympic,
and its captain was Edward Smith.
Smith took it out of port,
and the Navy cruiser HMS Hawke came up alongside.
The Olympic moved so much water
that the cruiser got sucked in.
The hawk had a concrete and steel ram in the front,
and that ram tore open the Olympics' right side.
This wasn't Smith's first accident.
He ran one ship aground and had a fire on another.
On the Olympics's very first trip,
he trapped a tugboat under its back end.
But this trip was the one that mattered.
Every time the sky screws up, he gets a promotion.
It's just like the politicians in California.
The Olympic limped back to the Belfast shipyard that built it,
and the news was bad.
The keel was bent. From then on the ship leaned a little bit to the left, and there was no way to fix that.
The yard patched it well enough to work for a few more months, but a patch wasn't going to get that ship past the next government inspection.
Then the Navy decided the collision was the Olympic's fault, so the insurance company refused to pay.
The White Star line belonged to J.P. Morgan. Morgan was the most powerful banker in America, but he was losing a fortune on White Star.
The Olympic was supposed to fix that. Instead, Morgan had a ship that cost millions.
and couldn't be insured or sold.
Couldn't sell it. Sure you can.
For sale, ocean liner lightly rammed.
The keel was bent.
Yes, character.
It leaned to one side.
Ocean fused from every room on the left.
Morgan also owned the ship sitting next to it, almost finished, the Titanic.
The two were built side by side from the same plans.
The only way to tell them apart was a number stamped on the parts.
The Olympic was 400 and the Titanic was 401.
Otherwise, they were identical.
Identical. And that gave J.P. Morgan an idea.
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Nobody would insure the Olympic, but the Titanic was brand new, and it could be insured for
every dollar. So if the damaged Olympic went to see pretending to be the Titanic and sank,
the company would get paid for a ship that was worthless.
So Morgan's man at White Star, Bruce Ismay, sat down with Captain Smith.
Ismay told Smith he'd wrecked the ship and he owed the company.
Then he told him how to pay the company back.
Smith would take the ship into the ice and stop at a certain position on Sunday night.
He'd let the ship touch the ice so there was a story to tell.
Then the crew would open the Seacocks.
Yeah, I'm sorry, didn't they open the wood.
Seacocks, they're the valves in the hull that let the seawater.
So the seaman would open a sea cocks.
I got it.
Grow up.
Yeah.
So the plan was open the valves and the ship would flood slowly over the whole night.
A freighter would be waiting close by to take everyone off.
There weren't enough lifeboats for everyone on board, but that didn't matter,
because the lifeboats were just going to ferry people back and forth.
They wouldn't signal by wireless, because every ship in range can hear a wireless message.
When Smith was ready, he'd fire rockets, and they'd be red, white, and blue.
The fray would see them and come alongside.
Nobody would get hurt.
The company would collect the insurance,
and the real Titanic would sail for years
under the name Olympic.
Smith said yes, and he brought a few of his officers in on it.
The switch happened the first week of March.
The Olympic had just thrown a propeller blade at sea,
and it came back to Belfast for a repair
that takes a few hours.
It stayed a week.
The job itself took 15 men one weekend.
They did it for 100 pounds each,
which was a year's pay.
They changed the life belts,
and the nameplates on the lifeboats,
and they were told that if they ever talked,
they'd never work again.
The name on the bow was the hard part,
because White Star cut the names of the chips
right into the steel,
so an engraver made new letters
and riveted them over the old ones.
Years later after he died,
his wife admitted that he did this.
But those men miss something, the portholes.
In the photographs of Titanic's launch,
one stretch of the bow has 14,
the Olympic had 16,
but these photographs from this day,
show 16. Other photographs show the Titanic with a patch of steel on the right side
that's a different color from the rest and that's right where the hawk hit. J.P. Morgan was so
confident this would work, he raised the insurance on the ship to $12.5 million, just a week
before the voyage. The day before sailing, one officer was taken off the ship with a key in his
pocket. The key to the locker where the lookouts kept their binoculars. There was no radar.
Ships relied on men's eyes and now those men would be.
to be blind. So in April 10th, 1912, the Olympic, sailing as the Titanic, steamed into the Atlantic.
The ship had 1,317 passengers on board, but there were supposed to be more. J.P. Morgan himself
booked the best suite on the ship, and the newspaper said he'd be there. 30 minutes before sailing,
he sent a telegram. He was sick and wasn't coming, though he was seen a few days later with
his mistress in France and looked perfectly fine. Fifty-five other first-class passengers,
canceled at the last minute, and most of them were friends and business partners on Morgan.
But Ismay stayed on board. He believed the plan. So did Captain Smith. The freighter was the
Californian, and Morgan owned that one too. It left five days ahead of the Titanic with no
passengers but a cargo of 3,000 wool sweaters and 3,000 blankets.
3,000 sweaters and blankets, huh? It's either a rescue or somebody's grandma has a serious problem.
Its captain was Stanley Lord, and his orders were to wait in the ice and watch for the rockets.
But his man Smith weren't in on J.P. Morgan's real plan.
There would be no rescue, because a rescue saves everybody.
But there were three men on the ship that Morgan needed dead.
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Dozens of wealthy men canceled their trip, except three.
John Jacob Astor was the richest man on the ship.
Benjamin Guggenheim's family made its money in mining.
Isudor Strauss owned Macy's.
Together, they were worth $500 million.
That's about $17 billion today.
And all three were in Morgan's way.
At the time, when the government needed money,
it borrowed from the bankers,
and that was mostly J.P. Morgan.
The United States had no central bank.
No, Fed.
Imagine what that was like.
Dollar was a dollar.
A man could buy a steak, a suit, and a senator.
and still get changed back.
Morgan wanted a central bank for the United States,
a bank run by bankers.
This would let him keep his power,
but offload the risk.
Aster, Strauss, and Guggenheim were against it,
and they were the only men in the country
rich enough to stop him.
Morgan made sure they were on this ship.
Each man got a personal invitation,
and each was told that Morgan would be sailing too.
The Californian wasn't the only ship Morgan sent.
He sent another one out ahead of it, running dark.
Its job was to make sure Smith never made it to the California.
And just in case, Morgan had men on the Titanic to make sure that no matter what happened,
those three men could never leave the ship.
For the next three days, Smith had one job.
He had to reach the ice before anyone on board figured out which ship this was.
But by Saturday, passengers started to notice something strange.
The ship leaned to the left.
It leaned that way from the day it left port,
and it was the same lean the Olympic had after the hawk.
On Sunday morning there was supposed to be a lifeboat drill. Smith canceled it.
As far as he knew, nobody would need to find a lifeboat in a hurry anyway.
All day, other ships sent warnings about ice ahead, but Titanic didn't slow down.
Smith steamed at full speed toward the meeting place, but he had no idea that there would be another ship in the way.
The Californian was already in position. Captain Lord stopped his engines and kept the boilers hot.
Lord sent three wireless messages that evening, and each one was addressed to Captain.
and Smith personally. To anyone listening, they were ice reports, but each one gave the Californians
exact position. Then the Lord lay down to wait with all his clothes on. As soon as he heard the rockets,
he'd be dressed and ready to start the rescue. At 1140, the Titanic was still 13 miles from the
meeting place. Over the crow's nest, the lookouts had no binoculars. Down on the bridge, the first
officer was one of the men who knew the plot, so he watched for the lights of the freighter. He never saw
Then something came out of the dark that didn't have any lights.
It was the ship Morgan sent.
The lookout rang the bell.
He said later it was a dark mass that came through the haze.
First officer turned hard to the left and threw the engines into reverse.
The ship came around slowly and its right side slid along the thing in the water.
It wasn't much of a hit.
One lookout called it a slight grinding noise like something was rubbing alongside.
Six men and the crew all had the same thought.
They thought the ship lost a propeller again.
again, because seven weeks earlier, it did.
Passengers went out on deck to see the iceberg, but there was nothing there.
Stewards told people the ship ran over a fishing boat.
Oh, finally, some good news.
Captain Smith came out and asked what they hit.
The first officer told him it was an iceberg, and he believed it.
With no moon, a ship with no lights is just a dark shape.
He didn't know another ship was there.
Morgan's ship was a small black steamer with a yellow funnel.
It had a steel edge fitted down to its side for exactly this job.
That edge opened a cut in the Titanic's right side, four inches wide and 300 feet long.
Smith thought he found the ice a few miles early and hit it harder than he meant to.
No reason to open the valves now the Titanic was already sinking.
This was sooner than he expected, but all he had to do was get everyone off.
And the rescue ship was right there.
He saw lights in the darkness.
Everything was going to plan.
J.P. Morgan's plan.
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Captain Smith saw lights in the darkness.
He thought it was the Californian coming to the rescue.
And for the next hour, he didn't act like a captain whose ship was sinking.
He acted like a captain running a ferry.
There was no general alarm and no distress call went out for 35 minutes.
And when one did, the position it gave was the meeting place.
place 13 miles away.
Smith ran the engines at half speed ahead toward the lights.
He had an officer signal the other ship to come at once.
They were sinking.
The ship didn't answer.
The first life boat was built for 65 people and it left with 27.
The boats went out about half empty because they were supposed to come back.
An officer told one woman they were only sending her out as a precaution that she'd be back for breakfast.
Smith told one boat to row to the lights, drop its passengers, and come back for more.
The boats rode for those lights, but the lights didn't get any closer.
She was approaching us, and then I saw her side lights.
I saw her green light and the red.
She was end on to us.
And then she turned round.
She was turning very, very slowly, until at last I only saw her stern light.
That ship was never the California.
It was the black steamer with the yellow funnel.
After it cut the hole open, it backed off and lit its lamps.
It was supposed to be mistaken.
for the Californian. Captain Smith sent his passages to the ship that sank him. Now the lights
were gone and his own ship was sinking a lot faster than anyone told him it would. Smith still
had one thing left. Rockets. Everyone that went up was white. But the plan called for red, white,
and blue. Morgan's people loaded the ship with white rockets and nothing else. And at sea in 1912,
a white rocket could mean almost anything. It could be a ship saying hello, it could be a party.
It didn't mean danger. Smith,
sent up eight white rockets and nobody responded at the meeting place the californian second
officer was watching a steamer's lights in the distance rockets went up over it low on the horizon he counted
eight and it called down to captain lord he asked me are they company signals i said i do not know but
they appear to me to be white rockets he again asked me if i was certain there were no colors in those
lights whatsoever i again assured him that they were all white
just white rockets.
So Lord stayed where he was.
He had his orders, and white rockets weren't the signal.
On the sinking Titanic, Smith finally realized that nobody was coming.
The lifeboat stopped leaving half empty.
But with the crew, there was still 2,200 people on board.
And the boats had room for half that.
Over a thousand people were going to go down.
And Morgan's men were on board to make sure that three of them
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John Jacob Astor found the lifeboat for his wife,
who was 18 years old and pregnant.
Mrs. Astor was put in the boat and her husband helped her.
I heard Mr. Astor asked the second officer.
officer whether he would not be allowed to go aboard this boat to protect his wife.
He said, no, sir, no man is allowed on this boat or any of the boats until the ladies are off.
Mr. Astor then said, well, tell me what is the number of this boat so I may find her afterwards.
That was the rule on that boat. But other boats left that night with men in them.
And Astor didn't get into any of those either. He never found his wife. His body was picked up days
later, his face was so badly beaten that they identified him by what was in his pockets.
Is it our Strauss was turned away from the boats too, and his wife wouldn't leave without him.
Benjamin Guggenheim didn't get a seat either. Instead, he changed into his evening clothes and said
he was ready to go down like a gentleman. But Bruce Isme stepped on to one of the last boats.
The ship went under at 220 in the morning, and Captain Smith went with it. He never knew what he hit.
1,500 people died in the water, and all the Californian did was watch.
At dawn, Captain Lord woke up his wireless operator and told him to find out what happened
in the night.
A few minutes later, Lord knew.
By the time he got there, another ship that Carpathia was already pulling survivors
out of lifeboats.
And off in the distance, Lord saw a steamer on its way out.
It had a yellow funnel.
He was asked later what ship this was, and he said he didn't have the faintest idea.
That was the truth.
Nobody ever told Lord about a second ship.
The real Titanic was at sea that week, too, sailing as the Olympic.
It radioed and offered to take the survivors on board.
The answer is in the wireless log.
On Mr. Ismay's orders, the Olympic was not to be seen by anyone on the Carpathia.
Those 700 people just spent four days on that ship's twin,
and Ismay didn't want any of them to get a look at it.
The company had trouble keeping the name straight.
Later, under oath, the director of the White Star Line called the lost ship the Olympic.
the Olympic. Not once. He did it 12 times. And the British government wanted this quiet too.
Morgan had a deal with the Brits. If war broke out, the Royal Navy could use his ships. The World War I
was imminent. Britain needed those ships. So official inspectors declared Titanic safe. It didn't
mention the lack of lifeboats. When the crew landed in England, they were held on the dock for a day
and read the official secrets act. If any of them repeated the rumors about a switch or about insurance,
it was 20 years in prison.
That left Captain Lord of the California.
When reporters got to him,
Lord said he wasn't allowed to give out state secrets.
The British inquiry was run by the same office
that said the ship was safe.
The survivors kept describing a ship
that sat a few miles off and did nothing,
and the judge needed that ship to be the Californian.
Then Lord took the stand
and said the ship his officers watched
wasn't the Titanic, but he couldn't prove it.
And the pages of his log for that night were torn out.
So the inquiry blamed Captain Lord and nobody else.
He wasn't charged with a crime, but he was fired.
And for the rest of his life, he asked for a hearing to clear his name and he never got one.
Nobody bothered to call J.P. Morgan to testify.
But Lloyds of London called him with the good news.
They paid the insurance in five days, $12.5 million.
The Titanic stayed on the bottom for 73 years.
Then in 1985, cameras went down to the bow.
The name was there, but it was made of metal and it was made of metal and it was made of metal,
letters riveted onto the steel, and White Star always cuts its name it. Two of those letters
had fallen off, and underneath them cut into the hull were the letters that were there first,
an M and a P from the middle of the word Olympic. The Titanic never sank. Carried passengers
across the Atlantic for another 23 years with the name Olympic on its bow, and in 1935 it was sold
for scrap. Shapie Morgan died before seeing his central bank created, but he did succeed. With
Aster, Strauss, and Guggenheim gone, nobody was left to.
Stop it. The Federal Reserve was created on December 23rd, 1913. It only costs one ship and 1,500 lives.
Oh, it's bad. Amen, brother. A banker swaps a damaged ship for its twin and sinks it for the insurance.
And then he double crosses his own captain, three rich men drown, and he gets his central bank. Great story.
But is it true? Yes, great episode, everybody, good night. Well, hang on. First, I have to come clean. That wasn't one conspiracy theory. It was actually two.
The switch comes from Robin Gardner, a British writer in the 1990s.
In his version, it's insurance fraud and nobody's supposed to die.
The Morgan murder plot showed up in the early 2000s, and there's no switch at all.
People do tell them together online, I added the double cross just to make him fit.
So what's real?
Well, more than you think.
Jack and Rose?
No.
Jack?
No.
Rose?
No.
The necklace?
No.
The door?
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Now my heart can.
go on. The Hawk did ram the Olympic with Smith as a captain. Morgan owned both ships, and he
booked a suite on the Titanic and didn't sail. The Californians crew did watch eight white rockets
go up, and their captain did ask what color they were, its sworn testimony. But the ship on the
bottom is the Titanic. The shipyard marked its parts with a number. The Olympic was 400,
and the Titanic was 401. Nothing marked 400 has ever come up. So what about the M and the P?
Well, that picture comes from a documentary.
It's fake.
Cameras have read the name on that bow.
It says Titanic.
The two extra portholes, well, that's real.
But the yard added them to the Titanic just before it sailed.
The money doesn't work either.
The Titanic cost $7.5 million, and it was insured for five.
Nobody raised the insurance.
So sinking that ship lost the company, $2.5 million, even if they paid.
Then there's the three men Morgan needed dead.
Well, Is it our Strauss was for the central bank.
He said so in the New York Times six months before he sailed.
There's no record that Astor or Guggenheim opposed it.
When the Federal Reserve passed, 85 members of Congress voted no.
So there were people who tried to stop it.
Just they lost.
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So no, J.B. Morgan didn't sink the Titanic.
Well, why would he?
Look at how he actually worked.
In 1907, the banks were failing.
Morgan locked the bankers of New York in his library
and kept the key in his pocket until they signed.
Three years later, his partner helped write the plan for a central bank, in secret, on an island off Georgia.
Now look at 2008, the banks are failing again.
The Treasury Secretary called the nine biggest bankers in the country into one room
and told them they were taking $125 billion, whether they wanted it or not.
That guy used to run Goldman Sachs.
Same meeting 101 years apart.
The only difference is whose money it was.
In 1907, it was the bankers.
In 2008, it was yours.
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become a member,
pays for itself,
and then just cancel.
I don't keep that money anyway.
I give it to the team.
That code is there to save you money,
not make me money.
Yeah, keep that secret under your Sikaga.
Those are the plugs, and that's going to do it.
Until next time, be safe.
Be kind.
You know that you are appreciated.
Scenario 51, a secret code inside the Bible said I would.
I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music.
So I'm singing like I should.
The future is theory, see theory becomes the truth.
And it never ends
No, it never ends
Oh, with MK Ultra
A being only
Were the shadow people
Under circle
And with the dark watcher
For the final chapter of the groundbreaking trilogy
That family wasn't real
You sure about that?
I had a father called Vision
How is this possible?
Don't miss the two-episode premiere
of Marvel Television's Vision Quest
Nothing bonds a family together
are quite like Mortal Jeopardy.
Streaming October 14th, only on Disney Plus.
All new drinks are now at McDonald's,
with refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher,
and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba.
To crafted sodas like the Sprite Berry Blast,
with berry flavors and cold foam.
Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire?
Six all new drinks are.
are here now at McDonald's.
Refreshers contain caffeine.
