The Wolf Of All Streets - $2.8 Billion In Bitcoin Liquidated! Time To Panic Or Buy?
Episode Date: September 26, 2025Bitcoin markets were rocked by $2.8 billion in liquidations, raising questions about whether this is a major shakeout or the start of deeper pain. At the same time, Tom Lee is calling for Ethereum to ...reach $12,000 by the end of 2025, while U.S. senators warn that foreign crypto deals could reshape market structure. On the regulatory front, the SEC is exploring an “innovation exemption track” to ease the launch of digital asset products, and Tether’s push for a $500 billion valuation is putting stablecoin dominance back in the spotlight. In this video, we break down Bitcoin’s sell-off, bold Ethereum predictions, and the latest moves from regulators and stablecoin giants shaping the future of crypto.
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The liquidation frenzy continues as $2.8 billion have been wiped out of crypto markets in a matter
of days. Of course, this is leading many to ask whether this is just another end of a bloody
September or a sign of bad things to come. Of course, all this is driven by the key stories
of the week, which is what NLW and I unpack every single Friday here on the Friday 5. Let's go.
Good morning, everybody, and welcome to yet another bloody Friday in crypto markets, Bitcoin trading in the 109,000 levels.
We were never supposed to see again.
We were supposed to be a 250,000 by now last I checked.
Predictions, not looking as strong as they were.
Good morning, sir.
you today. Good. What's happening? A lot is happening, actually. And one of the biggest
stories, certainly, of this week is that crypto giant Tether seeks funding at $500 billion
valuation, looking to raise $20 billion. This would make them effectively the largest big name
private company in the world, larger than Open AI, larger than SpaceX. I mean, this is absolutely
massive. And from what I read, the chairman of Tether would become the fourth wealthiest person in the
world with Tether at a $500 billion valuation. I was today years old when I realized that was not
referring to Palo Ardoino, but to some other guy. Yeah. Tether continues to be a mystery,
even for those of us who spend every day talking about them. No, I mean, it's a huge,
it's a massive number. Is important a caveat that this is sort of what they're floating,
could end up being, you know, beaten down a little bit. But yeah, I mean, just a massive signal of how
valuable stable coin infrastructure is and what power these companies have and they're doing it
with roughly 100 employees yeah i mean the the ratio is is absolutely insane uh man it's it's
wild to remember there there are there are people whose entire personalities are hating tether still
to this day uh next boy those guys all hated me too so i i enjoy watching the uh success but listen
And if we're going to be intellectually honest about Tether, one of the greatest
companies on the planet, maybe some of the things were true in the early days.
Yeah, I mean, they settled with the New York, like the New York AG about this, you know.
Right.
With the whole backed by Chinese paper and maybe not all cash in the bank and short-term
treasuries in the early days when there were kind of no rules and they were just bootstrapping
it.
Probably some of that was true.
I wouldn't go as far as say they were never fully backed.
I would just say that they were potentially never fully.
backed by what we want them to be fully backed by to feel safe.
Yeah, Kurtow World was a lot different six years ago.
Let's just say that.
How do you think that the Bohinds, USAT American division plays into this news?
Because that was a huge headline really last week, that Bo Hines was obviously had left
the White House and was going first as an advisor to Tether now, the CEO of basically the
American arm to launch a new stable coin compliant here.
Do you think this was all a part of the same sort of,
cadence of announcements and plans?
100%.
I mean, it's a momentum play for sure.
Tether is, I mean, look, they're smart.
They know that right now the way to play is to be close to the centers of power in
Washington.
They're playing that game very clearly.
I mean, Bo is a prime example of that.
I think that Tether was going to have a successful, had the potential to have a successful
U.S. launch kind of regardless of that, but they are very much leaning into the opportunities
of the moment.
And so, yeah, I do think it's all connected.
One of the more interesting or sort of, like, limited kind of conversations that I saw around this is a bunch of people asking, well, if they're so profitable, why would they raise more money?
Which is just the most insane question to me, like, because they're going to go forward.
I asked that question on my own show and, you know, like rhetorically, but somebody said, when someone offers you a lot of money, you take it.
Yes. I mean, look, so yes. So would you trade 3% of your company for $20 billion is one starting question?
Beyond that, though, this is a, like, no company that gets to this state does so without enormous ambition.
And Tether has been signaling for a year now about all the other types of things that they're interested in, not really giving a bunch of plans, but it is very clear that they're, you know, it's not like they're going to win stablecoin infrastructure and be like, cool, done forever, never going to build anything new.
This is all about building, you know, a balance sheet that they can go do, you know, whatever they want with and follow their.
knows. Also, frankly, I think that one of the things that is important to remember is that a huge
part of the profit of these companies is based on treasuries, right? It's based on the interest rate
on treasuries that is not guaranteed to last forever. In fact, there are many reasons to structurally
think, especially if you are in the crypto space, that the government is going to be forced to bring
interest rates down long term for debt reasons and debt servicing reasons. And so,
of course you're going to want to build resiliency into your model as well rather than just
sort of design everything around the good times of high interest rates. So, I mean, look, it makes
it makes a ton of sense to me. If they can actually get $20 billion for 3% of their company,
that that's huge. The other piece that I thought was an interesting point that some were making
is that there are likely now lots of folks in and around the tether orbit who need to do things
like take loans against the value of their equity and, you know, without, you know, basically
who are trying to get liquidity without having to be.
liquid. And for those things, having external valuations and things like that, it can be important.
So all sorts of potential reasons to want to do it. But look, if you're looking for just the
big banner headline, it's, you know, it will be the most or tied for the most valuable private
company in the world, depending on how you look at open AI's recent share tender offers, which are at
around the same price. With 100 employees. I'm sure that will expand. But I think your point about
interest rate exposure is the most important. We've harped on that here quite a bit.
But you look at a company like Circle that's now public and you're effectively just buying
interest rate exposure until they find new and creative ways to make money and expand, right?
So there's a lot of pressure on these if we go back to ZERP or anything close because they're
going to lose 60, 70, 80 percent of their income.
Hence why Circle probably wants to launch their own chains.
They can make money that way and probably, and also we had the Circle News this week about
rolling back transactions.
Maybe we won't even dig into that.
But they need new business models.
and new ways to make a lot of money that are not just free money.
These are super smart companies.
They know that they are at a race against bigger forces than themselves.
And they're going to plow resources into going and building those new avenues.
The next story of the day, obviously, maybe the main story of the day just because we're all hyperbolic is price action.
Bitcoin has had two of its three biggest liquidation events of 2025 in the last four days.
2.7 billion in long liquidation leverage has been wiped.
I haven't actually dug in today at whether this was primarily alt coins or Bitcoin on the
back end, but I know Dave Weisberger dove into this pretty deep on Monday that it was only
300 million in Bitcoin on the first liquidation event and the other 900 or billion was
effectively alt coins across the market.
But here you go, a largest cell pressure we've seen since June 21, 2025, when it was all over
again.
We all know that that's sarcasm.
We have the playbook here that Dave broke down, which is.
that basically this is whale manipulation, a hell of a lot of money to be made by liquidating
longs. And of course, Justin, $22 billion worth of Bitcoin and Ethereum options expire today.
So a lot of very market-specific forces driving price right now without being able to point
to anything wildly specific on the macro or fundamental side.
Yep. I mean, look, I think that it's wildly reductive, but I think you can do worse than
dividing price action into one of two categories, which basically you just articulated,
is this fundamentals driven, macro driven, you know, forces that are knowable in some way,
narrative driven even? Or is this not those things? And if it's not those things, that doesn't
mean that it's not important, but it does mean that if you are not sort of, you know, a professional
trader, clamming up and sitting on your hands tends to be the best, the best answer. And trying not
to read too much into any short-term signals is kind of my, you know, watchword. Like,
we'll see, this is, this feels like the type of action where by next week we could be having
a totally different conversation. It, you know, I think that in fact, in some ways, to me,
the most interesting thing to try to suss out is how it is interacting with the vibes,
whether it is contributing to a, you know, is it reinforcing a narrative that maybe we are stalling
out and maybe we are at end of cycle? Is everyone still treating it as sort of like,
actually a September recalibration.
You know, we talked about how September was going too well,
either last week or the week before.
You know,
yeah, September for Bitcoin in history.
I was bringing it up, as you said it, September 18th.
That was all 10 days ago when I retweeted that and said it's all over.
Right.
So, you know,
and so the question, you know,
I'm always interested in more in the kind of the meta analysis
and how people are feeling about it.
And look,
I think that right now my read is,
um,
nobody knows really how to feel about any market at the moment.
It's just confusing.
It's been confusing for a long time.
I think we tricked ourselves into thinking that a rate cut would bring clarity, but, you know, Powell's too shifty for that.
You know, we can't get a rate cut with clear signals.
It's got to be confusing.
And so it's a Rorschach test, as every kind of market move is right now, that really is going to tell you more about how you're feeling about things than what the market is doing, really.
Yeah.
I mean, generally we see a very bullish fall, which should give you natural pause that everybody's expecting a very bullish fall.
So good luck figuring that out.
But October is as good as September is bad.
So we will see if this is just kind of the last shakeouts of this summer period.
Dave Weisberger once again likes to point out that during the Jewish holidays,
this tends to happen.
And then things start to rocket again once again in October.
So we will see.
But for now, Bitcoin definitely looking on the weaker side.
I will also say that I do not believe that folks who are not primarily crypto traders
are viewing everything as a guaranteed bullish fall, right? People who are just sort of in traditional
markets. And that overlap is more profound than it's ever been. It's going to continue to get
overlaps, right? In fact, my read on traditional markets right now is they are more nervous about
the extent to which value is concentrated in sort of technology leaders than they have been
for a while. I mean, it's just, it is, it's impossible to ignore. Now, there are, on the flip
side bulls who are saying, look, maybe it's time we actually believe that this infrastructure
build out is real and it's going to happen. But by and large, I think people are more nervous now
than they were, call it even six months ago. And so, again, we are going to have to deal with
the fact that traditional markets are now fully intersected with crypto markets and are going to
shape the nature of the cycle. Yeah, I think that that's a good point that obviously the more
institutionalized we become, the less our narratives inside our
bubble matter. So the next story here is a pretty big one. It's in line with everything we've
seen from regulators and from the SEC specifically, but U.S. SEC I's innovation exemption to fast
track digital asset products. This is from Chair Paul Atkins, who's effectively been
bullposting and lecturing at a ridiculous clip since becoming the SEC chairman. I mean, we
had Project Crypto, obviously, and now this is just a further continuation. This definitely rings
of Hester Persis' safe harbor ideas that we've seen floated for many years,
but basically saying, hey, crypto companies are going to be allowed to just release products
in the United States, willy-nilly, and we're going to eliminate the regulatory hurdles.
And I think you said burdensome rules, those burdensome regulations.
Get those out of the way and just let people start dropping products.
Yeah, I mean, look, we are in now, we are firmly in the shift away from just
are all our regulatory allies talking about things to what are they doing? And the SEC is,
you know, once again, for whatever reason, it's always the SEC, good or bad. But they are,
you know, all of the signals are incredibly bullish, incredibly positive. This is the type of thing
that really, you know, if we are very serious about creating, you know, the crypto capital of the world
in the U.S., this is the type of thing that's going to enable it, right? Space for entrepreneurs and
creators to design, experiment with new things while knowing that they're not going to be,
you know, have their shoulder knocked on later. Now, I will be interested to see if these things
actually go through how much the legacy of the past and the, you know, the potential for future
regime changes still gives people pause. I, for example, would not be rushing to do, you know,
scary unregulated things. I don't like for myself personally to base my actions on how,
good my future compelling my how compelling my future court arguments are. And so I think that
people are going to be still a little a little gun shy, let's put it. But I'm glad to see them
them actually trying to substantiate and create these, the pathways that they've been talking about.
Yeah, the pendulum will swing back. I mean, there's no question. I guess what this naturally begs
is the question. Does this mean you can just go ahead and fire off a meme coin launch pad based
in the United States and let any insider fire off a meme coin and hold the whole supply,
are we talking about real products? How far does this go? Because we know if you get
crypto people together in a room with no rules, you're going to get some pretty ugly stuff.
Yeah, I will find. I guarantee we'll find out. Oh, we're going to find out. There's definitely
people who already watched that speech, like you said, and didn't consult a lawyer and already
have plans to launch things that are going to blow our minds. The next topic here, Democratic
signal support for bipartisan solution to market structure bill.
Republican back bill to create a market structure for digital assets is expected to head
for a vote in the Senate Banking Committee soon.
Of course, you know, you can't get good bipartisan news without a little on the flip
side probe into foreign crypto deals critical amid market structure talks, Democratic
U.S.
So some Democrats on one side, some Democrats still skeptical, obviously, still some vestiges
of the Elizabeth Warren anti-crypto army.
Well, the actual news was that the Democrats,
This group of 12 Democrats want to be more involved.
They want to basically co-draft the legislation rather than just, you know, be party to it.
I think that's a positive thing.
Look, they're still squawking like we could potentially have market structure this year.
If you are tracking this at home, all you should really care about, at least in the short term, is how strong the intention remains.
I think that right now, the broad sense is that we're in pretty good territory.
as relates to market structure bills, my guess is that a lot of what we'll be looking at
from a crypto lobbying perspective is going to be some very specific things, i.e., backdoor defy
bans, things like that, the type of stuff that we've seen over and over again sneak into
legislation last minute. And, you know, all, look, I don't think that it was a, it was
predestined that this was actually going to move forward this fall. There's plenty of other
considerations. So, you know, roughly or sort of like loosely neutral to bullish right now as
relates to at least sort of the intent in Washington to get things done. Yeah, I agree. Next story we have
here, Tom Lee, but really about digital asset treasury companies. Tom Lee predicts Ethereum's
price could reach 12,000 by end of 2025. He calls Ethereum a neutral chain that will be favored by
Wall Street and the White House. Of course, this is talking his own book because Bipmine holds
2.15 million Eath, making it the largest Ethereum treasury in the world. But $12 to $15,000 by the end
of 2025 would be a pretty sizable move in the coming months. And I think this begs the question,
how much bull talk can you do to keep pushing things if the market doesn't end up supporting it?
And what does that mean for digital asset treasury companies moving forward? Because it feels like
that 1.0 has seen a lot of the shine come off. Yeah. I mean, I think that it's,
fair to say that there's a little bit of narrative exhaustion right now. And, you know, Tom Lee,
God bless him, is out there trying to figure out exactly how many more pennies that can be picked up,
you know, before that narrative gets completely exhausted. And it's a good bull. It's a good bellwether
for that point. Look, I think that the other interesting piece of this is that there is no
asset in crypto that has had, that has had a more prominent place with more different narratives
about what it's supposed to be, right?
World computer, defy chain, I mean, you name it, right?
Internet of value.
Yes, Internet of value.
Ultrasound money.
We had that one for a while.
I was like, you can't forget ultrasound money.
That's the best because that's what Ethereum was built to be.
And the interesting thing is that, you know, for me, it seemed like the place that it had
with Wall Street was always going to be Bitcoin's the store of value, you know,
digital gold thing, Ethereum's everything else in crypto, right?
You can kind of use it as a bundle for everything else.
Tom Lee is definitely trying to own and push an Ethereum narrative that is about its
sort of defy aspects, right?
It's use as a financial technology.
We even have Vitalik coming in with a blog from left field, basically getting down with the
financialization kind of use cases and sort of saying that, yeah, maybe I don't think those
are important still, but we need ways to fund the important stuff.
And so if all of these financial use cases allow us to go do things that don't have to have business models, maybe that's valuable, right?
So it feels to me like on the one hand, narrative exhaustion with the treasury companies, but perhaps a Ethereum community alignment.
I use that word very, very loosely, but some commonality of purpose when it comes to telling Wall Street a story that, yes, this is a chain that is open for financial business and is excited to work with them.
Yeah, the Vitalik blog is interesting because, obviously, he's driven the narrative for Ethereum
and those multiple narratives to some degree for so many years. And he kind of got in line behind Tom Lee
and said, this thing's working. Let's not rock the boat. Let's do what Tom Lee is doing, right?
This is the narrative that's going to work for us and continue to push us forward. Smart.
Yeah, I mean, look, the part of the Sailor Playbook is recognizing that when it comes to certain
aspects of the market, Sailor is a more effective communicator than anyone else we've had.
is better. Yep. 100%.
This is the stable coin chain. That was his first narrative for why Ethereum was going to go up.
Anyone who knows no stable coins are everywhere. They're a commodity. There's going to be a million
of them on every chain. But Circle went public. Everyone wanted access to stable coins.
Tom Lee was smart enough to push the narrative that Heath would get, you know, accrue all the value
from stable coin adoption. Yeah. I mean, also a recognition that it's that that it's got to compete
for narrative place with Solana, with XRP, with everything else. That's about.
to be fast-tracked because of innovation exemptions for ETFs, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, well, we have a fine, that was the five, but we have breaking news that I, honestly,
I think could be the entire Friday five, all five, like Vanguard to allow access to
crypto ETFs on its brokerage platform, not just broken by me.
Here's an article on it on Trading View.
Vanguard literally, repeatedly said the word, never.
no chance not going to happen the world could literally explode in a ball of fire and you still
won't be able to buy crypto ETFs here we are yep yeah I mean look it's this is a you know I think
if you if you want to if you want a Twitter meme it this is the and then you win phase right
it they were the loudest most vociferous you know antagonist we're never going to do it
And the market appears to have driven them to, to change their, their stake as markets tend to do.
I was when I, when you first shared this, I went and looked and the sourcing looked dubious to me.
But then it was Eleanor Territ who is sourcing it, you know, who I think at this point is sort of beyond, beyond reproach.
So look, it's, it appears that this might be a thing.
And, you know, look, the, yes, it is valuable in the sense of all of these new people that potentially come online via Vanguard.
I think that the signaling power initially is the big one.
This is one of the last big holdouts in Tradfai, you know, to the ascension of the
crypto infiltration of the mainstream economy.
And so, you know, like he said, it's the, and then you win phase.
Crazy.
This one I was not sold would ever come around.
I thought they might just, you know, remain on the sidelines literally forever.
Maybe there's the greatest top signal of all time, and I'm just not seeing it.
Money companies like money at the end of the day.
And when people with money tell the money company that they want to spend their money on a thing that they don't have,
the money company can only say no for so long.
Yeah, I'm just like I'm dancing on the line of being really happy that they came around and wanting to give some credit
and just wanting to indefinitely dunk on them for their bad decisions.
Oh, no.
Full dunk.
Full dunk.
Full dunk, yeah.
Because I guarantee you there are a whole set of people inside that company who were telling
their leaders and leadership structures that they were insane to make those decisions and even
more insane to make such big, bold proclamations that created narrative headwinds for them
later on and PR headwinds.
And those people are also dunking right now and hopefully getting promoted.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that is all we've got today on the Friday, 5.
I feel like we nailed it pretty good, pretty good.
You guys can check out The Breakdown and NLW, obviously, on all of his channels.
He goes way deeper into most of these topics and others throughout the week and AI as well.
I've said it before.
I'll say it again.
It's the only podcast I listen to every day.
I listen to like one all in podcast every two months just to trigger me slightly.
And I listen to the breakdown.
That's it.
It's all I got.
Awesome.
All right.
Guys, it's been a pleasure. We will definitely see you next Friday for the Friday 5,
and I'll be back on Monday for Macro Monday. See you guys soon. Bye.
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