The Wolf Of All Streets - Bitcoin CRASHES To $94K! Is The Cycle Top Officially In?
Episode Date: November 14, 2025The crypto market just saw over $1.1 billion in liquidations as volatility explodes across Bitcoin and major altcoins, triggering comparisons to the chaos of the FTX collapse. Today we break down what... caused the sudden wipeout, which indicators matter most, and whether this is the beginning of a deeper downturn or a massive buying opportunity. Join us live as we analyze the data, market sentiment, and institutional flows to understand what comes next for crypto.
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Bitcoin trading below $95,000 today levels not seen since last May, leading to the endless debate
of whether the cycle top is in or whether there is a cycle at all.
Even in context of everything happening with Price, there's a lot happening behind the scenes
with the government reopening and gaining some renewed tailwinds on legislation, regulation,
and more to unpack all of the big stories of the week.
I've got NLW for the Friday 5.
Let's go.
Good morning, bear market enthusiasts and welcome to the dystopian future hell that is crypto.
You're going to welcome NLW.
bare market things, you know?
It's a baby bear.
Bitcoin, $95,500.
Clearly, it's all over.
I haven't even looked.
Let's see where crypto fear and greed has got to be low.
Let's pull that up.
16.
Extreme fear.
Yesterday, extreme fear.
I don't know, man.
Seems like there's a lot of depression and maybe a bottom is approaching.
Yeah.
I mean, who knows?
I think that there's, there's,
a lot that you can point to in all directions.
I'm sure, which we will unpack throughout this episode.
Yes, we will.
I still think that this image is living rent-free in a lot of people's heads
when it comes to the cycle theory and where we're at,
this 2023 Reddit post that said,
the pattern would print the cycles all-time high on the 6th of October 2025,
exactly when we hit 126,000.
People looking for reasons for this renewed sell-off, of course,
as well, though.
Michael Saylor saying Hoddle, apparently the Titanic's going down.
What are we doing here?
I don't know, man.
I don't think that picture says what he thinks that picture says.
No, I'm wondering if he's Jack and Rose is hanging off the back there somewhere and he's
going to just dwindle down into the abyss.
Yeah, I think that he thinks that the Titanic is the global financial system, but everyone
who sees this thinks that it's Bitcoin.
Yeah, maybe.
And meanwhile, at the exact same time, the FUD strikes hard.
Arkham, Sailor Strategy cuts Bitcoin holdings by 47K.
So a series of tweet saying that Michael Saylor is selling, right as his hoddle image comes up with the Titanic sinking.
Of course, this is probably just wallets moving.
There's no reason to believe this is selling.
Michael Sailor selling would be a very damaging psychological signal.
for many. That would be the thing, right? Then I'm like, yeah, bear market. I think everybody would
agree. You just said Michael Seller, by the way. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, that was impeccable.
Yeah. There you go. So I actually do think, though, like, if you were looking for something that could be
a catalyst for a much lower price, if that actually happened and was proving that, that could be it.
I think there's actually like, certainly from the, the, if you view Bitcoin as the people who are
inside industry and the sort of, you know, the rest of the financial world that's now
incorporating it, I don't know that there's anything that could more hurt the psychology of
the folks who are inside than a sailor sell. Man, the non-sailer whales have been selling
their butts off, though. It's pretty clear when you look at any of the data that this has
just been sustained and relentless selling by these old wallets. And it's pretty impressive how much
Bitcoin these guys have. And they're willing to sell it at these prices. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
I think that that's when the dust settles and have the benefit of some emotional space
from all of this. That will be a key point of analysis of this entire cycle. Is that sort of,
you know, basically relentless pressure? So something else that never ceases to amaze me is how
much money people can put into leverage positions and see liquidated. Crypto market liquidations
top $1.1 billion. That was in less than 24 hours, by the way.
and not even counting when we dropped all the way down and have had, you know,
hundreds of millions on every single day, basically.
But analysts compare stress to FTX collapse.
I would say that maybe it was comparable because of the mass liquidation event on
finance, but steady liquidations, that seems wildly overstated.
Yeah, that seems like an analyst who wasn't here, like when that happened.
It's like normal parts, even if unfortunate and unfun parts of a market cycle, versus like the culmination of multi-tier, multi-end year fraud exploding into, you know, an event that, you know, could do more to damage the reputation of this industry in the U.S. than anything before it, like not comparable, which is good news, right?
It's good when we're getting that sort of hyperbolic.
it's that human need to compare any bad situation to a worse situation yeah well and you know in this
I think in this case it does us good because boy it's not even close yeah absolutely so let's
talk about some of the actual tailwinds though as everybody on planet earth I would imagine knows
the United States government reopening this week after the longest shutdown in history
obviously we saw a pause on a lot of things that we were looking for and excited about
in the crypto market when it came to the government regulation and legislation.
We came out of the gate swinging, though, right?
Got an XRP launch of an XRP ETF, which was the best of 25.
I think it outpaced the B-sold by about a million bucks.
But that was obviously a success, even in a down market.
But more importantly, the regulators and legislators are chirping again.
I think that this is one of the bigger story is SEC Chair. Paul Atkins unveils plan for token taxonomy to redefine
crypto regulation, utility tokens, payment tokens, securities, commodities were the four buckets that I saw from looking at this.
But actually found digging into his words really interesting. I mean, maybe you can unpack this first,
but this is something we've been needing or looking for for a long time. Yeah, I mean, a lot of these ideas harken back to stuff Hester Purst has been talking about for years.
you know, they're trying to, they're basically taking up some amount of the work of this key
question of whether a thing is a security or not and can it cease to be a security?
You know, one of the key things that Atkins said is that basically the security nature of a thing
can expire over time because the promises that were made to investors initially, which gave
it security like properties, ceased to have a relevance to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
of the nature of the of the ecosystem and community. And I think that that's very coherent for
those of us who live in this space, who can see that there's a difference between, you know,
a token that launches and needs to raise capital to sort of build itself out and uses a token
sale as part of that and what that looks like from a security perspective, as opposed to
five years down the line when it's mature, when you have a totally different set of actors
than the people who launched it, who are maintaining it. And we're finally actually sort of
getting or lurching towards systems that can handle that sort of complexity. It's also interesting
to me that Atkins is taking on some of this. I think that, you know, he made it very clear that he's
not trying to duplicate the work of Congress, but I do think that they are, he is at least a little
bit preparing for some of those security designation questions to be punted on because they're
clearly kind of second tier in terms of the debates from a political perspective that are that are getting
had. So it's a lot of positioning to actually be in the place that we need to be once this
legislation is signed in in the books. Yeah, what I find interesting, I actually had a conversation
with Matt Hogan about this yesterday afternoon, but it will come out on Sunday. It was not
live. But we both sort of agreed that it's not necessarily that the SEC is pro-crypto right now.
It's almost like they're just swinging the pendulum back to reasonable. And when you dig into
what is happening, they're actually saying maybe most of this isn't even our
jurisdiction or our business. So, I mean, maybe we should just touch on the next story as we
talk about that. Senators unveil draft crypto bill giving CFDC oversight power. This is a bipartisan
bill that's being proposed that really would put most of the onus of regulating this industry
on the CFDC. And when you see Atkins talking about those buckets, three of those buckets are probably
CFDC and most things he does not view as securities. And when you listen to him talking about it,
He said, yes, we're still going to use the Howie test because it's what we have.
But most of these things started that way, but no longer are.
He even went into a pretty great explanation about Howie and the Orange Groves that it was based on
and the fact that those are no longer Orange Groves now.
They're roads and, you know, streets and there's trees and there's parks.
And none of those things are the same security as when they started.
So I think they're really kind of pushing this off the SEC's plate.
Yeah, and I think that this is, so that the bill, the draft bill that was presented was presented through the Ag Committee.
So it's focused on that side of things.
But this has been, you know, I think a pretty common theme in a lot of the way that the crypto industry was hoping to be regulated over the last few years is a bigger role for the CFTC.
We're now at the point where we're actually getting into some of the logistical questions.
You know, the CFTC is about a quarter of the size of the SEC.
And so there are questions of whether it can handle this from a jurisdiction.
perspective, but, you know, to your point about Atkins and pro-Crypto or not, I think that
pro-Crypto can just be, one of the best ways to be pro-Crypto is to know what, when you don't
have any jurisdiction over parts of crypto, you know?
It's funny.
I, you know, I interviewed Perth years ago, and I started it thinking that I was being endearing
by saying, yeah, we love to call you crypto, mom.
You're the only pro-crypto SEC chair or SEC commissioner.
And she was very quick to say, I'm not pro-crypto.
I'm pro-common sense.
This has nothing to do with my opinion of the asset class.
I'm just trying to do the right thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that that's a, that whether that actually reflects their opinions
or whether that's just this sort of like the stance that they're taking,
I think it's the better one from a longevity standpoint of these policies.
Quickly, Saylor just tweeted there's no truth to this rumor underneath Walter Bloomberg.
So I think we can put the sailor is selling thing to bed because if he lies, he goes to jail.
So yeah, good.
Yeah, good.
Okay.
So moving on to some more bullish things because as much as prices continue to drop, it's just amazing how many things are being built, adopted, and created in this space.
But Coinbase to offer new crypto tokens to traders ahead of listing, basically a price.
pre-sale launch pad here from Coinbase with Monad being the first. We've seen a lot of unsuccessful
structures for launching tokens. Will this finally be the right way to do this? That I don't know,
but I'm glad that they're doing it. I think the ICO movement gets rightly maligned for the amount
of it that was sort of co-opted by, you know, scams and just, you know, absurdity. And,
and overzealousness. But part of why it found such a ready market is that people have been
kept out of early stage investments, you know, systematically for decades as they've watched
sort of, you know, the accredited class get rich. And that is a big part of the discontent
that was driving interest in ICOs in the first place. There's broader political conversations
about this right now, about finding ways to get more people invested into the success of American
companies so that there's not a sort of a rejection pattern a priority because they're not benefiting
from these gains. And so I think that any experiments that are sort of in the realm of legally
feasible that allow people to have earlier access to these projects, especially in crypto
where they get to be a part of those projects in more meaningful ways than, for example,
just buying early open AI stock as, you know, as secondaries or something like that, I think is a net
positive thing. I also think that Coinbase doesn't do things that are like overly risky.
You know, I think that if they're doing this, they have a sense of, of where it's going to
fit with the new regulatory regime. They're not doing some crazy version of it. I think they were
very loud about the non-listing fees, no listing fees for part of this. So there's clearly an
attempt to take the good parts of, you know, token launches and turn them into a thing that people
can participate in. Yeah, I've said this a few times on the show, but I think that there's kind
of two parallel issues with the ICO structure. One obviously is tokenomics, and I think that's
going to come down to the project and not something Coinbase can necessarily control. But the other side is
the disclosures and, you know, breaking through the opacity that comes with these launches. And the fact
that they already have shown who the market makers are, how many tokens they're getting, how long
they'll be market making for, obviously shows that we're on the path.
more transparency. Now you can debate all day whether they should be releasing more than 7.5%
of Monad in this sale, right? Those are the things that go back to the old days of ICO
where people feel like there's a privilege class that's getting the benefit. But at least everybody
knows the vesting structure. Everybody knows where the tokens are going. And then you can make your
choice accordingly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the the the shit coin waterfall was one of the key problems
with ICOs, where, like, literally you would have five different classes of people who
were led in early that each had, you know, different tiers of discounts. And it on, you know,
there was no lockup, right? It was just the day one liquidity, you know, dumping on retail's
heads. It was a very, very weird moment. Yeah, I mean, and if we're talking about Coinbase,
I think we definitely have to give an honorable mention to the fact that they delisted EOS this week,
since we're talking about ICOs. I mean, that was the most successful ICO of all time, raised over
four billion dollars and never built a thing. But the block, block one, you know, who was behind
that still has, you know, 120, 160. I don't remember the number 160,000 Bitcoin. They own
bullish. A lot of things. I mean, if you want to look back at the best example of the gratuitous
grift of the ICO craze, raising $4 billion, not giving any of that back to retail, but accumulating
a shit ton of Bitcoin in businesses, maybe the best clary example we have. Yeah, I mean, listen,
Treasury management was the most successful crypto strategy for a good number of years.
Yeah, well, hasn't been going too well for our new treasury management companies that have been launching.
But that's a topic for another day.
And just quickly, note, Coinbase moves incorporation to Texas from Delaware following Musk's lead.
I didn't see this as such big news, but people seem to.
Yeah, I don't know.
Broader stuff that's not just crypto-related that has to do with sort of shifting tides of how business is organized.
But I think it's kind of insider baseball.
China accuses U.S. of orchestrating 13 billion Bitcoin hack.
I haven't gotten so deeply into this story, but I've definitely seen some bad takes
because a lot of people are thinking that this was a hack that just happened.
I believe this is from 2020.
Yeah.
But basically China is saying, you know, state level actor, most likely the United States
that directly, effectively stole $13 billion in Bitcoin from China.
Well, isn't this the same pile of money that was like involved in the pig butchering scam
that we just talked about like a month ago?
like basically there's this one 27, 272 bitcoin yeah yeah there's this this big chunk of 127,000
bitcoin that a lot of people seem to have different interpretations around I think what's
interesting about this is the Chinese government wading into the conversation around this
you know basically that this uh this particular person who's been accused of all these things
in the US um you know I don't know what it says uh but it's a it's sort of a geopolitical you know
intrigue, I guess, around this. I don't think that this plays out into anything. And frankly,
I think that the idea that this is going to even sort of merit a mention in bilateral trade
negotiations that are happening, I think is pretty far-fetched. But whatever, maybe it's one more
bully cultural for various sides to use against each other. And speaks to the technique that we're going
to see governments using to build those strategic Bitcoin reserves. Right. I mean,
Kazakhstan, literally, it was either this week or last. I remember we talked about said,
hey, we're going to do a billion, but it's going to be from Cs to Bitcoin. Like, we're not buying that stuff.
And by the way, I think Checks bought Bitcoin yesterday, only a million bucks worth,
but that was the first time an actual central bank had added Bitcoin and crypto as a strategic reserve asset.
Interesting. Yeah. Well, and you also have some pretty fun conversations.
Christian Carlo and Chris Perkins from Coin Fund have been advocating basically for the return of
privateering for the U.S. for the U.S. government to go out.
basically license hackers to go get, you know,
go get it,
North Korean Lazarus, you know,
crypto back,
which is a pretty,
I think that we could,
there's probably a whole show to be done there.
There is because,
no matter how much of it we take back,
it's not actually ours.
Well,
finders keepers.
Yeah.
I like the finders keepers mentality
for strategic Bitcoin Reserve building.
I love it.
So the next story we have here,
and these are kind of honorable mentions,
but I still think worth mentioning JPM,
Morgan rolls out deposit token, JPM coin in digital asset push. So to my knowledge,
JP Morgan coin somewhat existed privately. So that part of it maybe is not the biggest news.
I think what is the biggest news is it's on a public blockchain and that they chose base.
Right. JP Morgan and base I didn't really necessarily have on my bingo card. It would be like
a JP Morgan on Ethereum or something like BlackRock. Yeah. I think that that one of the,
again, we're coming up to the sort of end of the year. And so you're,
you're starting to like, I don't know about you, but you know, you start to kind of categorize
like top stories from the year, top themes, things we got right, things we got wrong. And I think
that, you know, it was very clear that institutionalization was going to be a major theme,
if not the major theme for this year, right? Checkmark. Everyone got that one right. What was
interesting about is the some of the ways that the competition has played out, I think, is different
than people thought. People kind of felt like it was an absolute race for circle to get public because
there was going to be, you know, basically every big financial, you know, traditional trad, triad five firm
was going to do their own thing and build their own infrastructure and launch their own coins.
And there's certainly some amount of that.
But there's also a lot more of just, you know, the big players in crypto, the big crypto-native
institutions are reaping the benefits as lots of these companies decide that moving faster
with them as partners is better than just re-rolling the whole thing.
And this is kind of another example of that.
Yeah.
Maybe I haven't been bullish enough on base.
I think that was my takeaway.
It is Coinbase.
And we know that Coinbase is eating the world and knows what they do.
as they said. So maybe I should be more bullish there. We had a final kind of honorable mention story
of maybe we should have mentioned earlier in the CFDC conversation, but Carolyn Pham confirms
push to launch leveraged spot crypto trading on U.S. exchanges. And we also could have mentioned this
in the $1.1 billion liquidations part. That's what we need, you know. We need perps spots for every
American. Yeah. I think the, you know, the, maybe if we try to kind of sum up why there's all this
sort of good, you know, tailwindy news, but the price is still in the crapper. It's none of this,
none of these news items, none of this, none of these tailwinds are about the short term, right?
They're all long term, like, build out like the safe sort of place, the infrastructure for this,
for this industry. They're not the type of things. They no longer have the power to drive short term
sentiment because they are sort of expected. They're part of the trend and the trajectory right now,
But I think in the long term, we still, it's very easy to underestimate the significance of these things when it comes to the environment that it creates for the long term, you know.
But again, when it comes to the government shutdown, let's put it this way.
The government shutdown when it comes to crypto prices is sort of more significant for crypto and the fact that we might actually get this clarity bill before midterms now because the shutdown's over.
But in the short term, the biggest implications for price are probably that, you know, Treasury is going to spend.
a bunch of billions of dollars now that adds more liquidity to the markets, which could
have a benefit for risk assets in general, and maybe some of that flows into crypto, right?
This is just very different things. So if you are feeling bad about here, just kind of,
you know, zoom out as far as you can. Look, my prediction, sadly, is that I think that,
I think that we've hit, it feels to me that we've hit a bit of a shift in sentiment in risk
assets broadly, where everyone's kind of like, you know what, year was good. I'm done.
See you in January. Yeah, that's get something off the table. The problem is that the
wasn't good for us.
I brought up the coin market cap first week of January prices.
Spoiler, Bitcoin was 98.
Last I checked, we're at 95 here in November of the same year, given, like, first
week of January is arbitrary.
I don't know they care like what it was, but if we're talking about 2025 and Ethereum
was like 36, Solana was like 220, it's at 139.
So this was not a bull market if you look at, you know, those dates that we really
participated in. Yeah. No, I mean, that that is the, that is the challenge. But this also comes back to
the fact that, you know, another part I think of the story that will be written about this cycle,
to the extent that we are, you know, still in cycles is retail never came back. It was just us
DGens that, you know, that that that's diamond handed it through the last, you know, through the
FTX explosion, everything else, plus a bunch of new institutions. That was this market. And there was
never a new group of energy, excitement, capital, and then, you know, we just, there was only so far
you could go with it. And assuming that's true, October 10th was a really big deal when 19 billion
was liquidated because maybe that wasn't us over here in the States, but I think as Rand Nooner put
it, that was 1.1 million individuals had their accounts liquidated. That's a lot of soldiers
if there's no new, if there's no new backups coming in. Absolutely. Yeah, I think that that is still going to
also be looked at as one of those events that we'll be unpacking for quite a long time if we
do indeed continue to go down. Yeah. Look, I also think that there are, there are more short-term
tailwinds that we're maybe imagining and it could very easily be that next week we're
comfortably back up above 100. We feel a little bit better. We're getting, you know, we feel okay
going into, going into Turkey Day once again. Yeah, man, I mean, I still default mentally all the
lines and whatever to every bull market. We go down 25% like seven times and it's never a thing.
So either this is the top for years or we're going to be back, you know, at 150 at the end of the year and giggling Tom Lee style.
We'll find out.
Man, that guy, though, like this week, I think he literally said Heath could be 10 or 12 grand by the end of the year.
Got to love them.
Got a love them.
Pure bullishness.
Just go for it.
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