The Wolf Of All Streets - Bitcoin & Ethereum Skyrocket! MASSIVE Crypto Rally Ahead?!

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Edan Yago, core contributor to Bitcoin OS, and Scott Dykstra, co-founder of Space and Time, join me today to break down the latest crypto news and explore whether a new crypto rally is just around the... corner! Scott Dykstra: https://x.com/chiefbuidl Edan Yago: https://x.com/EdanYago In the second part of the show, Dan from The Chart Guys will share his market analysis and some trades. The Chart Guys: https://www.youtube.com/@ChartGuys ►► JOIN THE FREE WOLF DEN NEWSLETTER, DELIVERED EVERY WEEKDAY! 👉https://thewolfden.substack.com/ ►► Arch Public Unleash algorithmic trading. Discover how algorithms used by hedge-funds are now accessible to traders looking for unparalleled insights and opportunities! 👉https://archpublic.com/ ►►TRADING ALPHA READY TO TRADE LIKE THE PROS? THE BEST TRADERS IN CRYPTO ARE RELYING ON THESE INDICATORS TO MAKE TRADES. Use code '10OFF' for a 10% discount. 👉https://tradingalpha.io/?via=scottmelker Follow Scott Melker: Twitter: https://x.com/scottmelker Web: https://www.thewolfofallstreets.io/ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/30N5FDe Apple podcast: https://apple.co/3FASB2c #Bitcoin #Crypto #Investments The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own and should in no way be interpreted as financial advice. This video was created for entertainment. Every investment and trading move involves risk. You should conduct your own research when making a decision. I am not a financial advisor. Nothing contained in this video constitutes or shall be construed as an offering of financial instruments or as investment advice or recommendations of an investment strategy or whether or not to "Buy," "Sell," or "Hold" an investment. 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6319316098351104

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bitcoin is making a push to $100,000 as we speak. Ninety nine thousand four hundred or so. And Ethereum is actually outperforming it while Altcoins seem to be waking up all apparently because Trump is going to make a trade deal with the United Kingdom. But there's a lot more under the hood that's exciting happening in the market. And that's actually being built. And we got two perfect people to talk about it. We've got Yago and Scott Dicetro from space and time guys, let's go.
Starting point is 00:00:51 What is up everybody? I'm Scott Melker also known as the Wolf of All Streets. Before we get started, please subscribe to the channel and go ahead and hit that like button. Getting my camera adjusted here. Gonna go ahead and bring on Yago who you guys see every Thursday. And Scott, Scott, it's been a while man. How are you? Been way too long. Thanks for having me on Scott. You had much longer hair last time. Yeah it was down on my shoulders so that's what I remember. I know why you had to cut your hair. I can tell you. I don't even know. I didn't ask you but it's because of this. It's because obviously you just did a massive deal with Microsoft. Yeah that's the exact reason I got a haircut.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Totally. Microsoft had to walk into the board meeting, and pitch yourself to Microsoft. Put a darn suit on, please. Yes, but tell me about this. Let's break it down. Yeah, Microsoft's been awesome. So they've been great partners through the years,
Starting point is 00:01:42 but most recently we just launched Space and time mainnet. And we're so excited to make this happen. And Microsoft's been backing us, one of our largest backers. And so they've been incredibly supportive for getting this network launched. How big was this deal? Microsoft rounds 40 million or something. Is that correct? 20 20. I'd like to double things. This is crypto.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, I'll do. You have to double things. This is crypto. We all do. You have to exaggerate everything, at least double. But interestingly, obviously what you guys are doing is it's ZK proven data infrastructure. Iago, you were the first guy to ever do this on Bitcoin. Yeah, I mean, look, I think this is a super big deal and is a window into the world into
Starting point is 00:02:26 which we are rapidly moving. So I've been saying for a while, ZK fundamentally changes everything we know about crypto. I think Space and Time are one of the projects that are leading the change that we're seeing, the space and time chain has a totally different way of validating data from every other smart contract chain that you're familiar with. The old school way that we've been doing it for the last 10 years since Ethereum launched is you take the entire VM, you take all of the data,
Starting point is 00:02:59 you take all of the code and you shove it into the blockchain. The blockchain gets really, really slow and bloated. But the worst part about it is that you're doing all of the code and you shove it into the blockchain, the blockchain gets really, really slow and bloated. But the worst part about it is that you're doing all of this to create verified computations, right? Publicly verifiable compute. And the way that you do this verifiable compute in the old school way of doing things is verification via redundancy.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Every single node, every single validator has to rerun every single computation. So instead of building a world computer, you build the entire world needs to calculate a calculator. Sucks. That's the reason it doesn't scale. And so what Scott and Space and Time are doing is they are moving into the ZKH where you can do cryptographic verification. And so now one computer can prove that it did things right, create a tiny little proof, and everyone can just verify that tiny little proof. It is the future. For the record, I introduced these guys three minutes ago, maybe five. Did you even know
Starting point is 00:03:54 that he knew? I know, probably people to help get the message out. You want to join the team or that's perfect. Yeah, I mean, that was, you just cut that up and hire him. I guess it's my guess home page of space and time We'll just make that a video clip. That's it But to but y'all go to your point this can be done in multiple chains and what they're doing is huge But you're obviously focusing on doing this on Bitcoin And now we have to talk about y'all go your news really quickly because this is huge Bitcoin OS demo sends Bitcoin to Cardano
Starting point is 00:04:25 and back without a cross-chain bridge. How the hell do you do that? So this is exactly, ZK is magic. And I think people are messing. Look, I mean, I think the smart money knows that this is happening. And the old school way of doing layer ones, in fact, the idea of a layer one no longer makes sense.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And it's part of the reason that altcoins and sort of like the legacy L1s have been suffering for over a year. What ZK does is it allows us to from first principles rethink crypto. And so, for example, today on a smart contract chain like Ethereum, you have a token ERC20. That token is created by one of these old school smart contracts. That means that the token doesn't actually exist in your wallet, it exists in the smart contract as a line in an account. It means that if you try to move the token to any other chain, you have to go through a bridge. And it means that once you do that, it loses all connection to any smart contract that it was interacting with. So what we were thinking is how can we get smart contract functionality onto Bitcoin? To do that, we needed to create something so minimalist
Starting point is 00:05:33 that it could exist even on Bitcoin with the tiny data availability and the lack of native smart contract availability. We created ZK proofs where the inputs are the smart contract themselves. And as we were building this, sort of one penny dropped off to the other and realized you can actually create tokens, which the token itself is represented by a proof. And then a user can write a proof to a chain saying, all right, this token, I'm transacting it to another chain. They don't
Starting point is 00:06:02 need a bridge. They just take the proof, write the proof to a new chain, and now the token exists in the new chain, but continues to interact with any smart contract at once. Where I think we're heading is the work that Scott and Space and Time are doing integrates with the work that others like Sysynct and Risk Zero doing and the work that we're doing to a world where basically crypto starts to look more like the internet. It's all tiny little packets of proofs being passed between users, massive, effectively infinite scale, infinite throughput.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And for developers, what this looks like is instead of within crypto, you go, you build a product, you build a smart country, you deploy it to Ethereum. Now you want to deploy to Solana. OK, so you go and you rewrite it and you redeploy it. Now you're maintaining two systems. You've got two user bases, you've got two pools of liquidity, and that's just with two chains. What we're going to move into quite rapidly is a world where developers come and using the technologies that sort of the companies that are on the forefront and the projects that are on the forefront are providing, you build once, you deploy once, and you serve the entire world like Web2. Yeah. TLDR, I think that's perfectly stated.
Starting point is 00:07:13 TLDR, crypto has been 100 servers redundantly doing work. That's inefficient. Let's have one server do the work to prove it. Space and time does that for databases. Yago's doing that for Bitcoin. It's game over. Now I know it looks like our conversation here is super coordinated and it is. It's coordinated by facts. Like I've never met Scott. We've never spoken before right now, but we didn't even know what space and time was. And I didn't even know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So I did. But the thing is, right? Like like if you're if you're keeping your eyes open and you're looking at where the space is moving on the basis of first principles, it's just anyone who sees it once you've seen it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, that's interesting because Scott like you've had obviously the salon is of the world saying you do everything on one chain, right? Go to the layer one, we've seen obviously the pain of layer twos on Ethereum. So there's a little bit of a different pitch for the future of crypto than maybe what we've been seeing in the market of late. Yeah, I'm an old ETH maxi. And I've been like, a masochist just taking that ETH pain. Right. Go ahead. Bottom's in. Just go.
Starting point is 00:08:25 No, I'm just kidding. Go ahead. Yeah. The reason I bring that up is because ETH needs an overhaul. One way we overhaul it is use it as a settlement layer for ZK proofs in the same way that Yago is using BTC as a settlement layer for his proofs. Yago said, hey, I have to build these extremely lightweight, extremely succinct proofs because Bitcoin doesn't have a lot of compute to verify.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It doesn't have a lot of compute to verify, doesn't have a lot of capabilities to verify, so you have to bend and twist and turn your ZK proof to fit it into Bitcoin. In a similar way, we still have to kind of do the same thing on Ethereum, but at least Ethereum has a little more compute, a little more tools we can verify. Why don't we use Ethereum to make this great ZK settlement layer? And I think that's what Vitalik and team envisioned, right? They write about this a lot, space and time's helping usher that era in and kind of fixing the fragmented liquidity of all these L2s that have kind of broken the UX of Ethereum.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, I mean, I think it's not a secret that I'm about the furthest thing in the world from an Eth maxi. You think? But despite that, I think that Vitalik and Ethereum have been getting a lot of undeserved fad by people who don't understand what they're trying to do. They are trying to move Ethereum into the future. It's a very, very difficult thing to do. They're trying to sort of rewrite the very basic architecture. I don't know if they will succeed, but they've seen what we've seen.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I mean, it's the same approach on two different chains. I don't think that that's so like contentious to be quite honest, right? So I think that maybe there's a fundamental belief that everything should be settled on Bitcoin or not, but everybody agrees that this is the way that things are going to be settled, right?
Starting point is 00:10:06 No, I actually don't think, I think the vast majority of people, right, like if you see what people write like, oh, the Ethereum Foundation, they're a bunch of idiots sent, right, but, but you know, everyone, they haven't helped themselves at all. Sui is the next Solana, etc, etc. But no, most people haven't recognized that basically, it's like most people are still riding horses and are saying like, can we get a bigger horse? And then people like Scott are coming around and saying, I've got a car dudes. I got a rocket ship pop in. Okay, so let's talk about practical applications of all this then before we dive into what's
Starting point is 00:10:43 happening in the markets, because I just find this fascinating. So we're at early iterations, right? Obviously, proof of concept. I mean, I go this is the first time this has been done, right? You're not doing millions of them today. So what are we going to use this for? Scott, I'll start with you, but what are we going to use this for now that it's being proven? Yeah, that's the right question. How does this apply to end users? Oh, you got this great tech that sends data to smart contracts and a trustless or permissionless or proven way. Cool. But what does that mean for end users? When we first started space and time, I think it was like late COVID and 2020 and I was starting to write my own smart contracts. I was like, wait, there's no database on Ethereum. Of course, there's no database on Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Hell, there's no database on L2s. I'm so used to a Web2 experience where you go on Snapchat and it tailors the experience to your history. You go on any social media, you go on any Web2 app, you go on your bank account. They know everything about you and they tailor the experience to who you are. They know your history, your transactions, your liquidity, your capital, everything you've done.
Starting point is 00:11:41 In crypto, every DeFi protocol you interact with has absolutely no idea your history. They don't know your transactions, your liquidity, what games you've interacted with, what protocols you've played with. Why can't smart contracts ask a ZK proven database? Hey, who is Scott's wallet? Why is he transacting? How many loans has he paid off? And let me tailor a great DeFi experience or great gaming experience or great on-chain loyalty, airdrop, social experience, you name it, based on actual cryptographically proven data. And Yago is trying to say, hey, we can do the same for Bitcoin. This improves the UX.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It improves the UX for bridging. It improves the UX across the world. But we're trying to give smart contracts the ability to ask who the heck is Scott's wallet? What has Scott done on chain? And let me give Scott a unique tailored parameter changed experience. That's one side, right? And then the other side is that I can basically verify my data without giving away everything. Right? Yeah, like I can send someone a ZK proof that says, yes, Scott's 21 years old. Yes, Scott can drink. Yes, Scott is not a pedophile. Yes, Scott has a good credit score. Proof has to be true, Scott.
Starting point is 00:12:51 The proof has to be true. Scott, there's two Scots, damn it. But either way, right. But without them having to actually do a criminal history or check my social security number or any of those things, right? It's just a single thing that says, yes, without my personal data. Is that correct from the other side, Iago? Or Skyler? So I think, yeah, so I think what we're going to see is the merging of crypto and the internet. Instead of building the internet of value, we're just going to see the internet that
Starting point is 00:13:22 we know with value. And really, what this power is going to do is it's going to liberate our data and our digital assets in a way that have never been liberated before. And we don't need Facebook's or Amazon's or our bank's permission to do it. So already we're starting to see projects developing on us. And I imagine Scott, you guys have seen the same. We're building tools like go log into your bank, create a proof that your bank has KYC'd you and then deliver this
Starting point is 00:13:53 to a smart contract without showing who you are and without the permission or the API or any integration with the bank. This means that your data now becomes yours, even if Twitter or your bank or Binance don't wanna share it with you or anyone else. And that means that we're going to see major changes, not just for crypto, but for the entire construction of the internet. I think this is basically everything we've been talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:20 The technology is finally here. It's so huge. Anyone who's been through any legacy process of getting a loan, getting a mortgage, buying a car and sitting there for hours and the credit checks and all these things, this literally makes it instantaneous and you control your data. It has to be one of the biggest innovations that just kind of got lost in the shuffle over the hype of AI agents and NFTs and all the kind of things that we've done. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And that's really practical. Yes, it is. But also to be fair, it takes a long time for people to read, like think how long it took for people to recognize that Bitcoin was actually important. Right. Think about how long it took for people to realize that DeFi was important.
Starting point is 00:15:03 These things took years. And they were working before people started to pay attention. And sort of the trick obviously is to try and figure this out before other people. But by definition, most people won't do that. What we figured out is, I'll go to your point, as this consumer data comes on board, as consumers start doing what they call ZKTLS proofs, which is a very, very complicated name, just to say exactly what Yago just described, me logging into my bank account, proving it to a smart contract that I have a certain credit score or a certain checking balance, you name it, or that I'm an accredited investor, whatever it may be, space and time is offering kind of a landing
Starting point is 00:15:44 zone for all this data. Consumer logs in, builds a ZK proof, and instead of setting it to a smart contract on Bitcoin or smart contract on Ethereum, just send it to space and time chain. We witness the data, store it, put it in a cryptographic, the first tamper proof cryptographically proven database ever built. And then smart contracts can just query that whenever they need. Space and time aggregates it all, lands it all, holds it all, secures it all. And then like a smart contract is like, yo, show me all users with a score greater than 600. Show me all users with at least a million dollars in their account
Starting point is 00:16:21 and their credit investors. Just run SQL, ZK prove it. I don't have any insider information here, but I would imagine that's probably also the pitch that sold Microsoft on this idea. They recognize that this is effectively the future, not just of the Internet, but of all computation. Computation is going to become verifiable,
Starting point is 00:16:41 and they want to be ahead of that. Especially as nothing to do with crypto, nothing to do with exactly what has to do with Defense Department A proven to Defense Department B where warship is Bank A proving to Bank B that they're not cooking their books so that manipulating bond prices. This is terrible. There's no bags to pump then. Come on, man. You need to tell me how this is going to affect my meme coin. So true. I'm so sorry. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I mean, I'll give you an example of how this could affect a meme coin.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Imagine you wanted to create a meme coin, which actually had purpose, right? Because everyone talks about meme coins are about community. Well, let's say you wanted to create a meme coin where you earn the meme coin by demonstrating that you've, um, uh, uh, participated in, um, uh, a charity race, or you've contributed to, you know, your local community. Or you've lost, you've lost 40 grand just trading shit points on pump fun and you're terrible. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Right. So what I think we'll start to see is the entire, like all of your life will become on the one hand more under your control. Your digital life becomes more under your control and at the the same time, becomes more transportable.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And I think we're going to, you know, ultimately the kind of products that we will see from this will be as revolutionary as Airbnb and Uber. Yeah, this is wild. I see people in the comments saying, stop with the database, you're just going to sell our data. The whole point is that they don't know it's your data. Or they don't even have the data. They don't have the data your data. Or they don't even have the data.
Starting point is 00:18:25 They don't have the data. They just have the truth that you have the data. And we don't sell anything. We only accept what users have signed and sent to us. You opt into this. Scott, I have a bit of a reputation for doing hard-nosed DDs. So if you want, I could do a DD on your system
Starting point is 00:18:45 and then people in that, we could talk about it sometime in the future and people in the comments. So you can sort of get what I believe is, you know. You can do a DD on the people in the comments. You haven't already done it, Iago? You haven't already done the DD? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Why are you even here? I thought you both had everything on me. Listen, this is a- Iago, I'm outside your house right now doing DD on you. Yeah, obviously, who's not? We're all actually in the same room. But listen, so I do wanna cook through a few quick just news stories before we lose track of them
Starting point is 00:19:12 because so much has happened in the past, even few hours, much less days. We know that Bitcoin's been kind of pushing towards 100. I don't think that's a huge story. It's just a big one. I just woke up and I was like, whoa, okay. It's nice, it's nice, but you know, we have a couple stories that are definitely worth mentioning,
Starting point is 00:19:28 especially for me going bank to bank with ZK Proofs. US banks can buy and sell customers crypto assets on our behalf, OCC says. Slight departure from the days of Operation Chug Point 2.0. Yet, Arizona, if you guys missed it, we were dunking on Arizona a couple days ago because the governor vetoed the first Bitcoin reserve bill while the second one was approved. Now we have
Starting point is 00:19:49 New Hampshire and Arizona once again, all this in the past couple days. And you have casually Secretary Scott Pesante the US should be the premier destination for digital assets. It's like, I mean, Scott, you're in the US. It's like a fever dream. Every day. It's like all I mean, Scott, you're in the US. It's like a fever dream. Every day, it's like all the things that we railed against for all these years, we get some other piece of news that in and of itself, one of these would have been
Starting point is 00:20:13 earth shattering a year or two ago. And it's, I completely agree. It's so earth shattering, and yet it's completely disconnected from the sentiment right now, or the sentiment that we've seen at least coming up to today on crypto Twitter or like in the community. The sentiment has been pretty dead, hasn't it? And then here we are just like watching this market explode with good news on institutional
Starting point is 00:20:35 adoption, on states buying crypto for their reserve. And yet where's the hype? Where's the excitement on the timeline? I feel like, Yago, you could probably speak to this, but I feel like it's still because altcoins have generally underperformed. And because most people in crypto now have no exposure to Bitcoin. That's my feeling.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I so first of all, you they I mean, you should fix that by getting some exposure to Bitcoin. I have some. Yeah. I think, look, we're in this weird situation. For a long time, I've been saying, you know, probably for the last three months, I've been saying the price is going to start kicking off in May. And I've been doing this because three months ago, the global money supply started to rise and sort of over the course of our meetings here on Thursdays, I've mentioned it several times. It's very cool to be proven, or it looks like I'm being proven right right now. And so I think that's the primary driver.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But there's a secondary thing, sort of an undercurrent, which is that crypto has been disappointing, right? We've, you know, as the crypto industry, we've been promising all kinds of shit, and a lot of it it has most of it has not delivered and I think that the problem is we've been building a huge amount of infra but we've been building the wrong infra and so when people say we have enough infra they're not right. They're right that there's too much infra but there's not enough of the right infra and I think that what we're seeing now with Ordinals, with BOSS, with thedinals with boss with the growth in Bitcoin with the growth in ZK
Starting point is 00:22:06 It's those those places are where the infra of tomorrow is being built and it's the infra That we would have been building had the technology been available and and but it's just so cutting-edge It's like becoming available to us right now So we didn't need 50 layer ones and 100 layer twos. We needed two. We didn't need we certainly didn't need 50,000 layer ones. Yeah. I mean, Scott, what do you think of that? Okay, so I think we'll start with the beginning of this conversation around altcoins, then we'll get to the layer ones. I mean, I think you're right, Scott, Scott. I think people are exhausted. I think that they're not holding Bitcoin so they can't celebrate this move up in Bitcoin itself that
Starting point is 00:22:51 often in the past will eventually trickle to an all-quid season. Who knows? What I think is there are liquid funds and institutional investors that are going to drive the rest of the year, maybe hopefully deep into 2026, where this cycle is not driven by retail buying NFTs. Like I'm it's not Scotty going out on open sea and buying like an NFT that I regret six months later, or signing up to a centralized exchange and waiting three months just so I can buy one meme coin, which was Doge, and then losing like $1,000 to fees for no reason, because I don't know what I'm doing. to a centralized exchange and waiting three months just so I can buy one meme coin which was Doge.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And then losing like $1,000 to fees for no reason because I don't know what I'm doing. And so this what's happening right now is like there's a complete separation of retail from liquid funds that are coming in and saying look we have a three year, four year, five year, six year vision on Bitcoin. We're buying up incredible amounts over the next year and a half. And there's this opportunity that Bitcoin just zooms over the next year and a half or two years while the rest of the market flounders on shitty mean coins. And you're asking, hey, do we need 50 L1s? Do we need 300 L2s? Back in know, all my friends were investing in Polygon, like the first real
Starting point is 00:24:09 popular L2. We all did, right? We all bought Matic in 2021. When we not Yago, he's like, dude, I just bought Bitcoin. But like, all my friends were like, Scott, L2s is the future. I'm like, guys, there's so much capital in Ethereum mainnet, it will get fixed. There's no way the L2s is the future. I'm like, guys, there's so much capital in Ethereum mainnet, it will get fixed. There's no way the L2s is the strategy. There's no way like Vitalik is planning on scaling ETH by like adding 2000 L2s. Boy, was I wrong. And I think that hurt ETH ultimately.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They didn't actually fix the mainnet. And what Yago is trying to explain, and the best way he possibly can, I think he's at a great job, is that the only way for ETH to win long-term and to get to the point where we can actually make this chain hella usable is basically redesign the whole chain with ZK proofs, make it a ZK chain. And we know that's what's happening. It's exciting, but it's going to take a while. Yeah, it's exciting and it will take a while. And I think, you know, Scott does this thing
Starting point is 00:25:02 like I go only board PTC, but I don't do it like, like I'm not religious about it. I'm not religious about it. I just, I'm just like risk reward, fundamental analysis. And I've been looking for the last 10 years at sort of like the smart contract paradigm of increasingly bloated chains, increasing fragmentation. And I just didn't think that network effects
Starting point is 00:25:24 were being built. What I'm seeing in Bitcoin is network effects being built. And what I'm seeing in ZK is the ability to leverage those network effects in ways that we've never been able to before, because up until now, if you wanted to do anything, you needed to launch your own chain. And that just broke the network. It didn't mend it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 ZK mends the network. We're gonna see crypto turn into a super network. It didn't, it didn't mend it. ZK mends the network. We're going to see crypto turn into a super network. Yeah. Final thoughts, Scott. We got to 929. That happened really fast. But anything else last? I mean, Iago is right that Bitcoin is here to stay. It is not going anywhere. It is going to be a fundamental foundational ZK verified currency for institutional adoption. However, like there's apps that need to be built and it's sometimes very challenging to build those apps
Starting point is 00:26:14 without. Scott, I'll show you how you build apps in Bitcoin. Hey, I was just gonna say, this sounds like, I mean, did you ever guys see the movie Step Brothers? Did we just become best friends? Do we just become best friends? Do we just become best friends and you guys are gonna have like collapsing bunk beds and be doing karate by like the end of this.
Starting point is 00:26:31 It does sound like there's a marriage here. Like it does sound like there's a way. I mean, Scott, you wouldn't hate to see this work on. Yeah, I'll go, you play drums. There you go. Look, you heard it here first. We can now announce there's a potential partnership between Buzz and Yago.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But don't worry, Yago just got $20 million from Microsoft. Don't worry. Yago's going to do his DD first, though. Yeah, all right. Dijkstra, let's see you and I get on a chat offline. Great. I'm all about it. I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Congratulations on the huge Microsoft investment Yago. And congratulations, Scott on, you know, getting some Bitcoin and Cardano move in without a bridge since you're now partners. Maybe maybe we should we should we should you should have a new show. Founder dating speed dating. I like that you just you just bring founders on you speed date them you see like, Oh, I think these two they would they're gonna hate each other. Let's put them on.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I think that would actually you know, like real dating shows, the entertainment would come in the 90% of the time when they just hated each other. So I think that I think that would be the most entertaining episodes. Where you can follow both these guys on X. Scott, I know you're at Chief Biddle, right? That's correct. I remember that even from back in the day. I didn't even have to look you up.
Starting point is 00:27:51 That was kind of crazy. And of course, I'll go, you guys are all following anyways, but you should be. And now we're going to move on. Thank you guys so much. Thanks, Scott. All right. Now we got to talk about the markets more deeply because we got Dan from chart guys here. Bitcoin, man. Wake up. Do you have any friends? 100K. I'm looking for some friends
Starting point is 00:28:12 if you got anyone from me. Dude, I didn't even know. I could bring on some weird technical analysts that might be quirky or something and then you can tell him he's wrong and you'll hate each other. Then we'll bring on another one and you know, it'll be perfect. Yeah, big Bitcoin looks great. We were we were looking for the monthly higher lows end of April into May, we got them. Even you know, there's been multiple times recently where even even just yesterday, the reaction to the FOMC Bitcoin was the winner, it had a bull reaction, it gave back less than the broader market on consolidation.
Starting point is 00:28:44 We are watching this base of support. And again, we're just, you know, walking up the levels that are most important. And right now it's ninety three thousand after we held it. This is the four hour time frame. We held it a bunch and we did double top at resistance, but a quick little bull flag into another high. So what the bulls want to see is a hold of any back test of our previous resistance So now we've got you know, just under 98,000 ideally the next time we see four-hour consolidation
Starting point is 00:29:11 We hold that level and in terms of the next resistance, obviously the Psychological $100,000 level we have a couple tops up there from back in early February and then it's just the all-time high zone So bulls don't have anything to worry about in the short term. Again, I keep talking about weekly consolidation will happen eventually and it'll be just fine because we have a lot of space for the higher low to form. That's when I'm gonna be looking to add
Starting point is 00:29:36 to long swing positions. But again, looking great monthly higher low set right off EMA 12, just like the last period of consolidation. Once my EMA 12 populates, there we go. And yeah, there are no red flags whatsoever. And so, you know, could we form a monthly lower high? Yeah, it's possible, but we're not seeing any signs of any weakness at this point.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm gonna put you on the spot. Tell me, because we've talked about so many times, and I might be crazy, tell me why I shouldn't be buying ETH like crazy here. The weekly had this reversal right to the 2018 high, right? The weekly has this reversal and climbing. It's outperforming right now, but we've seen that a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But go to this monthly candle. I mean, look at the monthly on ETH right now with that candle. Maybe I'm not buying it to like an all time high, but tell me why this isn't aggressively tradable right now. Look at the ETH BTC chart, massive bullish divergence there at the bottom, which I shared. And now look at this candle. And this is the first time in a very long time we've seen Bitcoin made a really strong move and ETH and then alt following kind of outperforming. You have to be paying attention. I'm sorry to let people know people hate it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, I was watching this. I mean, if you've got your Bitcoin exposure, like many of us do, then absolutely. If you're going to, we're waiting for altcoins to show signs of life. And that's, it's definitely, the risk reward is definitely there for an attempt. I've been watching this 12 hour channel on ETH and it's trying to break bull here. So that's obviously a good sign. And again, just let's go way zoomed out. Six month timeframe. I am looking for a higher low compared to 880 is the most likely scenario. And yes, if we don't get a major alt season, it's possible.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We just tighten up for another bunch of years, but that means we bounce up a good bit, 20% plus at least. So yeah, and as you mentioned, ETHBTC weekly, what stands out to me is we had a lower high every single week for months and that has broken bull. And the dominance chart has not seen a break of the higher low every week pattern yet. So if that starts consolidation, ETHBTC is going to get some further follow through. As you mentioned, a ton of work to do on ETHBTC. Yeah. Listen, this is still like, it's still a bearish chart. Yeah. If you zoom out, I don't want anybody to think that there's a call for all-time highs.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I'm just saying it looks really good for a very nice reactionary bounce. Yeah. I mean, the risk reward is there. Bitcoin is way stronger. If you're looking for the most bullish chart in crypto, I mean, there's a couple all coins not many but bitcoins got it But yeah, definitely, you know if you're looking to spread out that risk a bit especially is you know Fear keeps cooling off in the broader market. We got the Nasdaq currently testing the bounce highs a little rejection initially But the bulls are still in complete control there if we were to lose the little low of yesterday that would be say Okay, maybe we get that weekly consolidation and maybe we are a little bit patient here. So I am still keeping an eye on broader market sentiment for that aspect.
Starting point is 00:32:35 But yeah, I mean, ETH, solid weekly bounce, EMA 12 resistance coming up, but we are creating some space to attempt to confirm a weekly uptrend for the first time since we double topped at 4,000. So again, you know, a conservative bull is already making moves. A patient bull will wait for weekly higher lows. You have to accept that things might run away from you a bit, but I need to determine what's best for you, and that depends on how much allocation you have already put into play. We've also got other names like MSTR, which Daily Bull Flag has now confirmed. So continuation there.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And again, remember MSTR, maybe two or three weeks ago, I forget when I was on saying, it's showing us this relative strength. For me, MSTR was the most convincing thing to say, look long crypto. I bought a lot back then. Yeah. Yeah. And so again, it was the same thing, monthly EMA 12, higher low off of it, perfectly fine
Starting point is 00:33:28 consolidation and a nice move up. Yeah. I mean, do like just as we kind of like wrap it up the general thoughts. I mean, are you thinking the bottom is in for stocks? I mean, we did get like a 20% retrace. You know, I guess if you're looking for a sustained bear market or a great depression, that's not enough. But in the new era of recessions are illegal, as Matt Hogan once said on my show.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Now, according to governments, like, looks pretty bottomy. I mean, this is a massive V-shaped recovery that's recovered beyond the catalyst of Liberation Day. Right? I mean, things are higher than where they were when we got the dip. Bitcoin way higher. That was like at like 82 or 84. It's at 100. Stocks are back to where they started.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah. I made a post on Twitter this morning. Don't use macroeconomics to try and predict short-term price action. And a lot of people on Twitter are doing that and not understanding this rally right now. How are we higher than the tariff day when nothing's been resolved? It's just price action. But yeah, I mean, you know, I've been trained in my career, considering I started 2010 where we V shape every time.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And I have to continue reminding myself, like, there's going to be a time where that's not the case. But as of right now, it's it's showing us very similar action. And, and you know, is it possible we set a monthly lower high and tighten up, or is it possible that we set a monthly lower high? I mean, you're going to need a new reason for fear. In my opinion, uh, the only time you get these massive sell-offs or when there's something fundamentally that can scare retail.
Starting point is 00:35:07 We would need something new. That could always happen, but in the absence of something new, these tariff headlines, I think, have done their damage and it would have to be something else than that. Yeah, I'm preparing. I'm back to being bullish because that's what price action is saying. And I'll definitely shift if things change. Yeah, I mean, the Fed was not even remotely dovish yesterday. I mean, Powell was as hawkish and said, I'm not going to do anything and markets are still
Starting point is 00:35:36 wanting to go up. So it's just hard to be bearish when you see that markets want to go up on basically any news. I would show you, I know we got to run, but I would show you I know we got to run but I would show you suey looks incredible here. Bull flag right into resistance breaking out just to give people an idea of what else happy with alts and for salon I mean I drew lines a while ago, but still you also kind of have a breakout from support here so some of the kind of bigger names that have moved in the past ahead of other things are moving and eat moving so maybe this is a time where all
Starting point is 00:36:04 coins get really interesting. I think it would be really interesting here if Bitcoin kind of chilled around 100. And we actually saw altcoins blast off while Bitcoin was bullishly consolidated. Absolutely. Interesting scenario for me. That's the pattern that we've seen time and time again in cycles. And yeah, sideways Bitcoin sideways Bitcoin dominance, dump altcoins rip. And we've gotten these little one day glimpses today as a one day glimpse. sideways Bitcoin, dominance dump, altcoins rip. And we've gotten these little one day glimpses.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Today is a one day glimpse. Let's see if we can follow through. Give us a real bullish altcoin weekend. We know weekends have become boring, but when they start picking up on the weekend, that's when we know it's for real. All right, guys, that's all we got for you. We got to jump and get on SiriusXM like 30 seconds ago.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Dan, everybody follow the chart, guys, and thank you. We got to jump and get on serious XM like 30 seconds ago. Dan, everybody follow the chart guys and thank you. We'll see you next week. Have a good one. See ya. Let's go. Let's go.

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