The Wolf Of All Streets - God Bless Bitcoin: Watch This Movie To Understand Bitcoin! | Brian & Kelly Estes

Starting point is 00:00:00 So you made a movie, Superheroes and Explosions. It's completely free, which I think is amazing. In the first 20 minutes, we teach you specifically what is going on, like why you're working so much and you can't keep up with your bills. That is the problem. And that's what we explain in the movie. It says, you know, a film by the Bitcoin community. In the United States, there's a definitive lack of financial education. Most people have no idea that it's money printing and monetary and fiscal policy that's holding them down, keeping them behind and forcing them into a difficult life where they can't save and they can't get ahead.

Starting point is 00:00:38 Now, Bitcoiners understand this story, but there are some Bitcoiners who have taken it a step further. Brian and Kelly Estes are incredible, incredible ambassadors for our industry and made a free movie called God Bless Bitcoin, not only about money printing and about the importance of Bitcoin, but also about why it's morally and ethically the best form of money, according to almost all of the world's religions. You have to hear this interview and you have to see the movie. So you made a movie. We made a movie. We made a movie. God bless Bitcoin.

Starting point is 00:01:28 Now, obviously, we spent quite a bit of time in Nashville, and I saw the excitement around this movie. Everybody interviewing you and discussing it and wanting to know the story behind it. So I'd love for you to share that with me here today. The movie's called God Bless Bitcoin. Obviously, it's completely free, which I think is amazing. So let's just talk about what gave you the idea and why you made this film. Yeah. So four years ago, I read the book, Thank God for Bitcoin that Jimmy Song and Breedlove and Gabe wrote and a few other people.

Starting point is 00:02:01 And, you know, it explores the Christian view of money and ethics and Bitcoin. And it just made me curious. I was just, I was curious, like what are the other religions say about this? And so I dove into, you know, the Jewish religion, Buddhist, Muslim, you know, Hindu, and just kind of tied everything together. And I was just satisfied in my own curiosity.

Starting point is 00:02:23 And so, but then after I did that, I had this this voice inside of me saying you need to like write a book or make a movie or tell the story and so that's what it is that's what the movie is it was in my head into my heart and for like two years and finally I went to Kelly and I asked her because I don't know how to write a book or make a movie I was like can you I don't know how to write a story and I asked her, because I don't know how to write a book or make a movie. I was like, I don't even know how to write a story. And I asked her, can you help me do this? Can you help me pull this story out of me? And let's make something out of this.

Starting point is 00:02:53 And that's how it all started two years ago. That's what I do for a living. I help students go through the college admissions process, specifically students who live at the poverty level. So high need, high achieving students, helping them to write their college application essays. And so I'm used to pulling stories out of people. And so I agreed, I have a master's degree in the teaching of writing. And so I do this, I've been doing this 30 years. So when he came to me and said, do you want to help me? I was like,

Starting point is 00:03:25 well, I know you're probably going to be my worst student I've ever had. And I, okay. Right. That's what you do when you're married. You help each other out. So I agreed. And the process was exactly what I expected. A little different because you're telling a story on film rather than on paper, but the creative process is the creative process. And so I was fully prepared for that, but I knew he was not because he is a numbers guy and does not really understand the creative process and isn't really a creative person in that way. So I knew it was going to be hard, but we worked through it. Let's just say it was the best of times. It was the worst of times, but we worked through it. We're still married. We've got a good movie. So yeah, he had a lot he wanted to say. So the

Starting point is 00:04:17 hardest thing for him was narrowing in the focus. As you and he know, you've been in this space for well over 10 years. Your knowledge level is at a much higher level than the average person in trying to make a movie that appeals not only to Bitcoiners who have been in the space for a while, but also to people who are new to it. That's a fine line to walk. And I think that was probably the hardest part was figuring out what's the story on this going to be. And so that's how it went. Crypto investors in the United States face some major challenges. One of them is that there's almost no way to get exposure to the asset class inside of your traditional investment vehicles. The other thing is the taxes. They are absolutely atrocious. What if I told you there was a way to solve both of these problems?

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Starting point is 00:05:55 an idea to actually seeing it through and hiring all the people that were necessary and coming up obviously with scripts and creative process so walk me through how long that were necessary and coming up, obviously, with scripts and creative process. So walk me through how long that actually takes and when you started. Yeah, our first interviews were at Bitcoin 2022. So that was over two years ago and out of Miami. And so we did over 60 interviews worldwide. We have the Bitcoin experts, like we all know, you know, in the movie, you know, and then we have, you know, some famous people in the movie like Mark Cuban, Tony Hawk, John Sally, NBA player.

Starting point is 00:06:31 And then Kelly went out and found a bunch of religious leaders to talk about ethics and morality and about money and Bitcoin and all that too. So it's a good combination of the Bitcoin know, the, you know, the Bitcoin experts, the, you know, the famous people and the religious people. So but yeah, it was, you know, over two years of interviews, like I said, you know, over 60 all around the world. Yeah, I think I met both of you at dinner at Bitcoin Miami 2022. And I actually and I actually interviewed John Sally that weekend as well. That's funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah. And then the heart of it, like Kelly said, the hardest part was taking basically 75 hours of content of interviews and, and drilling down and pulling it down to hour and a half and, you know, and doing all those cuts and, and, you know, so basically what I'm, I think I'm most proud of with the movie is, you know, and doing all those cuts and, and, you know, so basically what I'm, I think I'm most proud of with the movie is, you know, I've taken 10 years of knowledge and compact it into an hour and a half. And, um, so anyone that watches the movie there, I get, you know, basically 10 years of experience in 90 minutes.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Our first rough cut was three hours and I knew we were in trouble. I thought, oh my gosh. But then the hard part of cutting is you have so much good information and how do you pull? And especially when they're your friends, you don't want to pull them because you value their opinions. You value their friendship, but sometimes for storyline, they've got to go. So that was the hard part. I think for you, that was the hardest part with cutting, right? I mean, 75 hours of interviews. This isn't like a film that is made

Starting point is 00:08:13 with a storyline and you film a specific one minute scene and move on to the next one minute scene. I'm assuming you didn't know what each of those people would say in their interviews or how that would relate to what the next interview and the next interview was. So I'm assuming some things are redundant, but you probably ended up with so much incredible content. I don't know how you could possibly distill that down. It was hard, but you just have to pick the juiciest pieces, right? You have to say, which one of these is going to tell the, like, for example, how does Bitcoin work? You know, for the newbie, how does it work? That's such a complicated answer. And you could go way down into the rabbit hole and to the mechanics of it,

Starting point is 00:08:58 but that's not really what people want to hear. They just want to get a base level understanding or a macro view. So that's the other hard part about interviewing experts is they get very technical. And so trying to figure out, you know, how do we just make this more palatable for the average consumer? I think that was probably the hardest part for us but it came in the end it all came together yeah yeah one thing we did do um you know the movie's free you can go to youtube watch it for free twitter watch it free go to our website god bless bitcoin.com you could actually download the movie and post a viewing or showing or do whatever you want with the movie you know it's

Starting point is 00:09:43 open sourced um but with the interviews um we the movie you know it's open sourced but with the interviews um we actually like you said there's a lot of content in there we couldn't use in the movie so we actually created an app on i android and ios um you could you know download the god bless bitcoin app and um we're charging for that it's 9. But you pay $9.99 and you'll get the interviews there. So there's going to be over 30 hours of content of the interviews. So you can watch the full interviews with about half of the people that were in the movie. Yeah. And we're constantly uploading new.

Starting point is 00:10:19 As more come in, as more get edited, they'll be added to that list of interviewees. So that was one way to kind of share expert opinion outside of the movie for people if they want to take a deeper dive. I think the process that you described sort of echoes the process for anyone who's a content creator in Bitcoin or about this space, because it's so difficult to engage both the hardcore Bitcoiners and the believers who maybe already understand it, but are still looking for fresh perspectives and those complete beginners and the entire spectrum in between. So how did you drill down on who this film was really for? I'm sure there's something for everybody,

Starting point is 00:11:05 but there has to be that audience that you're really trying to hook. Is it mostly about new adoption from people who maybe haven't had their first experience with Bitcoin? Or is it really for the hardcore Bitcoiners? Or is it everyone? It's everyone. But specifically, we made the movie to explain what's going on with our current financial system, what's going on with fiat right now, because the wage earner can't keep up. People are working two and three jobs and they're having to make hard decisions about, OK, do I buy a lot of groceries this week or do I pay down my electrical bill? Am I going to be able to get a full tank of gas for my car? Or can I go with half a tank and still get to work? They're working more and more hours and their money is just not keeping up. They're losing purchasing power because our government is printing money. So that is our main audience is the people who don't understand what is going on. And they're

Starting point is 00:12:04 really the people who need to understand that Bitcoin provides an alternative to our current system that might help them create a store of value so that they can make a life for themselves and their families. So I would say the core audience are the people who are most affected by money printing. Which is interesting because it's almost everybody and we have no financial

Starting point is 00:12:26 education in this country. Right. I'm a T I'm a teacher, 30 years in the edge, 31 years in the education system. And it doesn't matter if it's a public or a private school, there is zero education on financial literacy. Yeah. I, I, I have my economics degree from university of Illinois. I did my study abroad from University of Illinois.

Starting point is 00:12:46 I did my study abroad when I was an undergrad at Cambridge University. I have my MBA from Washington U in St. Louis, which is a top 10 business school. And I didn't know how money worked until about 10 years ago. You know, like I have MBA,

Starting point is 00:12:59 you know, economics, finance degrees, and I didn't know. And so, you know, most people don't know that we weren't taught that. And so that's what the movie is. In the first 20 minutes, we teach you specifically what is going on, like why you're working so much and you can't keep up with your bills. And then we go into the alternative system, which is Bitcoin. And then we go into the ethical and moral reasons why Bitcoin is a better system than the system that we're on. And then we go into the ethical and moral reasons why Bitcoin is a better system than the

Starting point is 00:13:27 system that we're on. And then we back that up with religious text. That's the sacred text, not only in the Bible, but the Koran and the Torah and the different religions that are out there. I find it so interesting. I had a similar situation. I went to the University of Pennsylvania, took business classes, and no idea until I discovered Bitcoin anything about money. And I think for a lot of people, it would make sense why you made this movie because they've found Bitcoin and that sent them in reverse down the path to figure out why it was so important. That's how it was certainly for me. So wrapping that entire story into a bow and a single movie seems like an absolute slam dunk.

Starting point is 00:14:11 We've had really good response to it. Of course, we released it at the Bitcoin 2024 conference, which it was really a gift from the Bitcoin community. People volunteered their time, their talent to help us make that movie. So it seemed fitting just to release it there in the heart of the Bitcoin community. And so it has had an overwhelmingly good response. I mean, I think people are saying, yeah, that's right. That is how we feel. And we want more people to know about it. Yeah, we didn't pay anyone to be in the movie. Everyone volunteered to be interviewed.

Starting point is 00:14:47 They gave up their time to be interviewed. So, you know, yeah, it truly is. It's a film by the we have that in the opening credits. It says, you know, a film by the Bitcoin community because it truly is. Yeah. We're just talking about it the most. So you obviously had specific messaging in mind, and you sort of knew what the conclusion would be, but I'm curious if there were any grand epiphanies that you had while actually making the film. You know, I grew up in a small town in Illinois,

Starting point is 00:15:21 and, you know, we had, you know, it was mostly Christian people there. We had, you know, Protestants and Catholics and one Mormon family. You know, I didn't know any Jewish people growing up. I didn't know any Mormon or not any Muslims growing up. And so the one thing I did learn through this process after talking to the religious leaders is that, and I guess I should know this, but, you know, the old Testament of the Bible, it's both, it's for Christians, Jews, and Muslims. It's the Abrahamic, you know, Bible, you know, book of the, you know, you know, what we, we all believe in that is something I learned, like

Starting point is 00:15:58 we're more similar than we are different because we all, we share the core same core values no matter what religion you are and um and that reflects itself into our monetary system and you know it reflects itself onto bitcoin too in certain ways so you know we try to make those connections kelly was there anything that blew your mind that was completely unexpected an interview something that somebody said or some lesson that you learned yeah Yeah, I think it was, I think the thing that just struck me and made me reevaluate the way I think about things is when Natalie Brunel and I were talking, she has, she was our narrator and did an amazing job. And we were talking about, we were creating the script together. And I said, hey, Natalie, I'd really like it

Starting point is 00:16:45 if you would at this point in the movie talk directly to the audience about what it's been like for you as a young person to have to make hard decisions about your future because your money isn't holding its value. And she is part of the millennial generation. And she said, yeah, we are the first generation that will not be better off than the one that came before us.

Starting point is 00:17:08 And it just, I don't know, I didn't realize that. Because I'm Gen X, man. We were the last of the generation that didn't feel horribly the pinch of going off the gold standard in 1971. I mean, I was born in 71. So I was able to save my money, purchase a house. I didn't even think about how many kids I wanted to have. I just knew I could start a family. I didn't have to make any of those hard decisions like they do. And I think millennials oftentimes get a bad rap. But if we would look at it that way, we would understand maybe better some of the choices that they're having to make.

Starting point is 00:17:50 So, yeah, that one kind of hit me hard. Yeah, I was born in 1976. We may be the last generation where our parents still believed you could just save money and be fine, right? Because they were raised in a time when you didn't have to out-invest your money. You can literally just save money and your money would grow in value as opposed to go down. Of course, there was inflation, but the idea that you could store your value in actual money still lived. I wonder if they even teach that anymore. It seems they just tell you now,

Starting point is 00:18:23 go buy stuff as much of it as you can. They do. Well, if the money isn't holding its value, get something today because you won't be able to afford it tomorrow, right? Yeah. You see that in the preferred asset classes by different age brackets too. Because when my grandpa was saving money, he saved money in gold and silver. And when my dad was saving money when I was growing up, he was saving money in double E savings bonds. And then when I was

Starting point is 00:18:49 saving money as an adult, I was putting money in stocks, but then our kids, they're putting money in Bitcoin, right? So like each generation has its own preferred asset class and Bitcoin's the preferred asset class of the future. Physical bonds. I remember those from my childhood. I was raised Jewish, so I had a bar mitzvah when I was 13. And that was the gift of my parents' generation. Here's 50 bucks, but you got to wait a decade or more to get it. But that actually was an incredible lesson.

Starting point is 00:19:20 Whether it ended up being a good investment or not, the idea that you had something that was given you today that gave you a low time preference to look forward to and appreciating tomorrow, it just doesn't seem like that's a lesson that's taught anymore. No. No? That's funny. So you got a double E savings bond then? Is that what you got? Yeah. It was like, you know, here's 50 bucks.

Starting point is 00:19:40 You could cash it in. It costs 25. It's 50. But you have to wait. I haven't thought about those things in years. And you had to literally hold onto it for that many years. You'll lose it and it's gone, like Bitcoin. Yeah, it's a bearer bond, just like Bitcoin.

Starting point is 00:19:55 So you talk about how this generation now has come to Bitcoin. Do you think that this generation is yet aware of this problem? Or do you still think that that's a very few people that are saving their money in Bitcoin or even concerned with saving their money and films like this and other ways to raise awareness or what will eventually get us back to that path? My feeling is that younger generations know almost nothing about saving. Yeah. So they're experiencing the pain, but they don't know what's causing the

Starting point is 00:20:26 pain. They think that something's wrong with them. They don't realize that it's the system inflicting the pain on them. And what I mean by that is when you earn a dollar today and that dollar doesn't maintain its purchasing power in the future, you can't save your money. You can't plan for the future. So they're spending their money today. And a great example is six years ago, if you had $1,000 in your bank account, it only buys $520 worth of goods and services today. And so where the other $480 go, well, it got diluted. And we have that in the movie. Like Father Sirico talks about, it's like diluting the wine with water. That's what's happening with our money all the time. As the governments print more money, it's diluting the purchasing power.

Starting point is 00:21:14 And so people can't keep up with the inflation, the debasement of the currency. And so they're running up their credit card debt. They're living on big mortgages, big car loans, and they can't keep up. And so they think something's wrong with them, but it's really not them. It's the system that is the problem. And that's what we explained in the movie. And you have a choice. You don't have to stay in that system. There is a choice. You can opt out. It's a peaceful revolution. If you don't want to play in this game, you can opt out into the Bitcoin system. What were largely the religious lessons?

Starting point is 00:21:54 Because that seems like the kicker, obviously, the grand conclusion of the movie that maybe most people wouldn't be aware of. If you're a Bitcoiner, you probably at this point have at least superficially been exposed to the story of fiat and money printing and why you're in Bitcoin. But it's very unlikely, I would imagine, that you understand how each religion would frame Bitcoin in its existence, but also that entire monetary system and the problems with it. Yeah, I don't think the religions, you know, you can't look at a text that was written thousands of years ago and say, well, it meant this for today. That's being prescriptive with, you know, the sacred scriptures. But what you can do is look at what it tells us about how

Starting point is 00:22:40 we are to use money, how we are to interact with each other as we are exchanging value. And the basic rules of all religions, whether it is Christianity or whether it is Hinduism, is basically do no harm, right? So don't steal, don't kill, treat each other fairly, compensate each other according to the talents that were used to create that value. And so when you look at it that way, that's kind of the lens through which you evaluate whether the money that you're using is moral or ethical. And if you look at our current fiat system, well, every time they print money, it's stealing, stealing our time, stealing our energy, and it's stealing our talents right from under us. If you look at fiat,

Starting point is 00:23:30 it is because governments can print money, they can wage war. They can go out and fund these endless wars where tons of people are being killed. Bitcoin, because it is capped at 21 million, governments can't print more. They'd have to come to their citizens and say, do you agree with this or not? They'd have to borrow the money from us or tap into their own Bitcoin reserve. So if you look at it that way,

Starting point is 00:24:02 it's pretty easy to say that ethically and morally, Bitcoin is a better form of money for us to use. Now, is it more religious? I would never go as far to say that because I don't pretend to understand God. So I do say, though, you could look at it morally and ethically. And I think clearly it is more moral and ethical than fiat. But, you know, that was how I thought. And you have. Yeah, I mean, it says clearly in the Bible, you know, don't, you know, don't expropriate from our people to conduct violence and destruction.

Starting point is 00:24:42 It says that in Ezekiel which is old testament so and that's what the government's doing they're stealing from us to go conduct violence and destruction and it says specifically in the bible don't do that um so you know like so they're printing money to go do that and if we're on a bitcoin standard if the world was on a bitcoin standard you couldn't do that. So that, you know, those are like little points that we make in the movie. Another point is that, you know, the Bible says in Genesis, which is, you know, the world's religions that be fruitful and multiply, right? And so if your money doesn't hold its value and you're, you know, 18 to 30-olds, 50% of them are still living at home.

Starting point is 00:25:26 And so they're not able to leave their parents and find a wife, like it says in the Bible. And they can't be fruitful and multiply because they can't afford it. And even if they do get married, they can't afford to have a lot of kids and fill the earth, like it says in the Bible. So the system that we're on is not allowing us to be compliant with God's wishes. Kelly, how difficult was it to find religious leaders that understood this? Because just like we don't teach

Starting point is 00:25:55 financial education in school, I've been to quite a few churches, mosques, and synagogues in my day, and I've never really heard a solid lecture or sermon on the ills of money printing and the current financial system. So for some of them, I was able to tap into the Bitcoin community. We went to Pacific Bitcoin in the fall of 22. And one of the people who worked at Swan introduced us to our Islamic finance expert. And that was one way to find people. But then I really just had to get online and start

Starting point is 00:26:39 digging in and trying to find people. So it was just a lot of research and a lot of time. I actually went to a Catholic Bitcoin conference back in November of 22, I believe. And the person that I used, I tapped to use in the movie Father Sirico founded the Acton Institute, which is really just a think tank about how we can make economics more ethical. And so he understood 100%. He gave a speech to the Dallas Fed years ago that talked exactly about money printing and how it is theft and how one of his best quotes in the movie is that the Fed can be a place of great mischief and i thought that was funny understatement of the century yes i love it right right so he was fantastic and it was really we found a bitcoin rabbi so it was you just had to

Starting point is 00:27:40 you know google like rabbi bitcoin was it the Bitcoin rabbi who wrote the children's amazing guy. You were actually our connection there. So see the Bitcoin community. I totally forgot about that. You were our guy for that. He was fabulous. We had another rabbi who wrote a book called thou shall prosper, who really understood finance and how it applies to Jewish law and tradition, and then how he understood Bitcoin as well. But our Christian,

Starting point is 00:28:15 our Protestant minister, Daryl Bach, he said, listen, I don't understand Bitcoin, but I can explain to you what the Bible says about how we are to use money and the danger of interest. So that's another really great example or great perspective to bring to the movie because our current financial system is causing us to go into debt and be buried under huge amounts of interest. And so it just took time and research, which I like to do. Yeah. Rabbi Lavin had a great quote in the movie. He said, he's talking about the government. He said, they're literally stealing the bread from your table. And they are. About inflation.

Starting point is 00:28:56 The doings of an immoral government. Yeah. I spent quite a bit of time in Dubai at Satoshi Roundtable, actually. And Bruce Fenton, who organized that, does a great job, actually, of bringing in, I think, religious leaders from Islam to talk about Bitcoin and money. And I learned quite a bit about Sharia law and the prohibitions, as you sort of hinted at, against certainly loans and interest, speculation and gambling. It doesn't leave you many options. Yeah, we have that in the movie. It's called riba. So in the Muslim religion, to be Sharia-compliant money,

Starting point is 00:29:33 you can't pay interest or receive interest. And so gold qualifies. And there was a 90-year-old Saudi cleric about six months ago that put out a statement saying that Bitcoin is Sharia compliant money. So we have that in the movie too. Harris Erfron said that he believed Bitcoin was the most Islamic form of money ever created. And for that matter, the most Jewish and the most Christian as well. So it was really interesting to learn how other people look at money. Just learning about other cultures and other belief systems is fascinating. So that was, that was a fun part of the research for me.

Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. And to keep the movie interesting too, we did put a lot of graphics and animations on it to keep people's attention, you know, cause it's, you know, it's 90 minutes long. So you can't just have people up there talking all the time. So there are a lot of 3d graphics and animations in there that are, we think are a little bit entertaining so superheroes and explosions there's some little things like that in there i just want to know how hollywood i've watched it so i know there's no superheroes and explosions and i think it's such a noble effort I'm wondering how creating content like this, creating movies, podcasts, how we can actually start to inform the actual education system and the churches and to actually start teaching these things. Because it's one thing for you to teach it, but it's another thing

Starting point is 00:30:58 for them to hear it from the person that they most trust growing up and in the context of their own lives. How do we do that? Well, we are creating a curriculum right now. In fact, we have on a call in about 40 minutes to go over a study guide for churches to use if they want to screen the movie or if they want to have it as part of, you know, a Bible study group. And so that's part of what we're doing is creating curriculums. You teach. I'll let you talk to this. Yeah, I guess lecture at the Judge Business School at Cambridge University.

Starting point is 00:31:34 So I approached them to say, you know, next fall, can we teach a God bless Bitcoin curriculum? And so we're preparing that right now to send over for approval and so hopefully this fall at cambridge we'll be you know kelly and i will be you know teaching a you know like a four or five day class over there about you know the moral and ethics about money and bitcoin what if someone's not particularly religious do you think that the film will still be well received because of the story in general i I think so, because we're not really, we use the religious aspect to dig down to what is the base layer of morals and ethics. And those really did come from religion.

Starting point is 00:32:21 Religion teaches people how to behave, right? I mean, it's just, it's the way it's always been. So it's not that I think you have to look at it as particularly a religious film, as much as you do a film that talks about, you know, being good to each other. And how do we do that? I don't, whether you are religious or not, I think most people want to be good to each other and how do we do that i don't whether you are religious or not i think most people want to be good to each other and they want to live in a way that is putting good out in the world and not evil so really i think that's more of how you would look at it we did have one line on was it our youtube yeah and wrote, I'm an atheist and I can't wait to watch this movie. This looks fire.

Starting point is 00:33:08 That's great. That means that he was able Endorsement of all time. But he was able to look past the word God, which can be hard for people I know, and look at what the movie was really talking about. I mean, I'm Christian, so I do believe

Starting point is 00:33:23 in God, and so that's fine. But I look to God to tell me how to behave on this planet, right? How am I to treat my fellow man? And I don't think that that necessarily has to be a religious thing as much as it is just a good human thing. Yeah, it's a human nature. It's like we all naturally know it's not good to cut in line in front of people. You just know that, right? So you don't have to be religious to not cut in line. So it's the same thing about the movie. You don't have to be right thing, you guys made the movie free. I'm assuming at a tremendous expense to yourselves as the producers. So talk about making the movie free

Starting point is 00:34:10 and why you would do that. So I have spent the last 15 years of my educational career working with students who live at the poverty level and specifically those who have grown up in generational poverty. So I see exactly what our current fiat system does to those people within our society and all around the world.

Starting point is 00:34:33 And I really do believe they are the people who would benefit from understanding this the most. So why would we put up a $10 barrier of entry for people who don't have that as disposable income. So I think that's what made us both say, okay, Bitcoin community helped out, people donated to their time and some donated money. So let's, in the spirit of Satoshi, let's drop this out there for free so that it can reach as many people as possible to let them know that Bitcoin is hope. So what's the best way for people to see this, support it, spread the word? Yeah, you can go to our website, godblessbitcoin.com. You can watch the movie there. You could download the movie there. We encourage people to download it. It's decentralized. We want as many copies out there as possible.

Starting point is 00:35:25 You can host screenings, you can host events, whatever, do whatever you want with the movie. You can go on YouTube and just type in God bless Bitcoin. The movie's meant to be watched on a big screen. So you really don't want to watch it on your phone because there's, you know, the graphics are intense. So, you know, you want to watch it on a big screen. So, you know, if you have to watch it on a big screen. So if you have a YouTube player on your TV, just type in God Bless Bitcoin and watch it there.

Starting point is 00:35:52 It's on Twitter. You can watch it there. Eventually, soon it'll be on, I mean, within a couple of months, it'll be on Apple, Amazon Prime. You know, the AVOD players like 2B and Roku and Hulu and all those. It's a gradual rollout. Then on some of the platforms, we have to charge because Apple requires

Starting point is 00:36:16 a fee to charge. What we're doing on the Apple platform, we're putting the interviews in there too. You get the movie and the interviews for like 9.99 but if you just want to watch the movie you can watch that for free you know on youtube and we have translated it um we're dubbing it right now in seven languages subtitling it in over 15 so that people that it makes it universal so that language isn't a barrier to understanding

Starting point is 00:36:44 um kind of the cool thing is there was just someone just hosted a viewing party in costa rica last week they downloaded it and had a viewing party for people and we had someone uh last week at the conference let us know that they had subtitled it in hungarian so i'm like perfect this is very good what we're hoping. Just like Bitcoin. Like you said, decentralized, open source, have at it. Yeah, we're getting videos of people in India watching it. So we're dumping it in Hindi. That should be out in a couple of weeks. We have an 80-year-old woman up at two in the morning watching it in India. I'm like, it can't get any better than that for me. That's exactly what we wanted. Ryan, the most important question, is that an Indiana Jones pinball machine behind

Starting point is 00:37:27 you? It is. Yeah, it's my 1991 Indiana Jones pinball machine. Yeah. I know that literally from the front of that machine, from playing it in the... Get over there. Oh, man. That was my...

Starting point is 00:37:39 You're welcome to come over. I was so... I was so afraid. I just saw it in the back, the pyramid and the S I could see. And I thought we had a, we had a arcade called Aladdin's castle in the Oaks Mall in Gainesville, Florida. And I used to play that thing all the time. Well, come on down and whip his tail.

Starting point is 00:37:59 I mean, I wanted to come down and say hi to you guys anyways, but now it's. We would love that. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for making this movie, for your efforts, for your willingness to be such incredible ambassadors for the community

Starting point is 00:38:11 and taking your time to do this because I know there's a lot of other things you could be doing with your time besides, you know, spending years putting out free movies just to educate people on the importance of Bitcoin. It's a really...

Starting point is 00:38:23 Thanks for helping us get the work done. Your show has a ton of viewers and we are just very, very grateful that you would have us and help us spread the word. Love it. Thank you so much. And we'll put all the links for everyone down below and all the show notes and we'll spread this far and wide. Everybody, just go to YouTube. You can watch it for free. So easy. We made it so easy for everyone. You can watch it. You can just search it literally

Starting point is 00:38:48 while you're watching this on YouTube. It's very meta. It's a good inception. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Kelly. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Brian. All right, see you.

Starting point is 00:38:56 Yep. Let's go.

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