The Wolf Of All Streets - Is Bitcoin Stuck At $106K? What Is Elon Musk’s Mysterious X Money?
Episode Date: June 20, 2025Bitcoin is holding strong above $100K despite rising geopolitical tensions, and some analysts say it’s becoming the new baseline. On today’s Friday Five, I am joined by Nathaniel Whittemore to bre...ak down what’s driving Bitcoin’s resilience, why Elon Musk’s X Money could shake up the financial world, and how the GENIUS Act just changed the stablecoin game. Nathaniel Whittemore: https://twitter.com/nlw ►► JOIN THE FREE WOLF DEN NEWSLETTER, DELIVERED EVERY WEEKDAY! 👉https://thewolfden.substack.com/ ►► Arch Public Unleash algorithmic trading. Discover how algorithms used by hedge-funds are now accessible to traders looking for unparalleled insights and opportunities! 👉https://archpublic.com/ ►►TRADING ALPHA READY TO TRADE LIKE THE PROS? THE BEST TRADERS IN CRYPTO ARE RELYING ON THESE INDICATORS TO MAKE TRADES. Use code '10OFF' for a 10% discount. 👉https://tradingalpha.io/?via=scottmelker Follow Scott Melker: Twitter: https://x.com/scottmelker Web: https://www.thewolfofallstreets.io/ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/30N5FDe Apple podcast: https://apple.co/3FASB2c #Bitcoin #Crypto #Investments The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own and should in no way be interpreted as financial advice. This video was created for entertainment. Every investment and trading move involves risk. You should conduct your own research when making a decision. I am not a financial advisor. Nothing contained in this video constitutes or shall be construed as an offering of financial instruments or as investment advice or recommendations of an investment strategy or whether or not to "Buy," "Sell," or "Hold" an investment.
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Bitcoin currently seems to be stuck around 105 or $106,000 per coin.
But while that's happening, there's a ton happening in the background.
Obviously, we have geopolitical strife between Israel and Iran with questions as to how the
United States will engage in the conflict, if they will at all.
Elon Musk announcing that there will be payments and trading on X and of course stable coin Palooza
Luckily, we've got NLW here to unpack it all on the Friday 5. Let's go
This is one of those normal summer weeks where there's not any huge stories that are impacting price but still worth discussing and unpacking everything that's going on.
We're back.
Last week, you were keynoting.
You were busy keynoting.
Gallivanting around Europe.
I mean, just it's like your priorities are all off. You know,
you could have been here talking about all this important news and
you were out keynoting. But I think we'll start here with,
that's the wrong story. Analysts say Bitcoin's 100,000 levels
being cemented as the base price for investors. So I guess
generally here, we can just talk about price action, the fact
that Bitcoin seems to be effectively glued in this range in the low hundred thousands.
But even with all the dips we've seen across markets and all the uncertainty, it just doesn't
break below a hundred thousand.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that certainly we are, you know, we're tracking Bitcoin, I think, for
a couple of different reasons.
One, it's always a leading indicator of what's going to sort of
happen next in public markets, especially when, you know, a lot of the macro things that have been shaping potential market
action have happened overnight, you know, in various regions. So that's sort of one reason to look at it. But I think that
it's absolutely the case that the longer that it hangs out at this level, the more it creates kind of the psychological, you know,
attachment we already had, we had a psychological attachment
to 100k on the upside for so long. It sort of makes sense
that we're sort of forming that on the downside as well.
Yeah, I mean, from a psychological level perspective,
there's no more impactful number than 100,000. Right? It literally
was talked about for years to your point. So you've
got to imagine there's a lot of people are like, I'm just gonna buy it every time it gets anywhere
close to that. Yeah, I'm surprised we haven't even seen 99,980 or anything. It really has held
entirely above 100,000. Yep. Now it's it's it's extremely notable. I mean, again, it's one of
those it's a self reinforcing sortinforcing sort of prophecy.
So I hope that it continues to hang out here
and this becomes the reset forever.
Yeah, that'd be amazing.
It was, it's Selkis that always used to tweet,
I can't believe this is the last time
we'll see Bitcoin under X, right?
So maybe we can jinx it by tweeting that,
but generally it does seem like
it's been really, really strong.
And that's obviously,
while we still have a lot of geopolitical uncertainty, Trump
hints he'll hold off Iran strike give diplomacy time. I
think this is what a lot of people are watching at this
point. Yeah, it's incredible how quickly we absorb what's
happening in the world and markets seem to shrug it off. I
mean, the very fact that Iran and Israel are lobbying missiles
at each other on a daily basis seems like it would have had a
greater impact on markets, but it hasn't.
And immediately markets just basically moved on to what would the United States do?
Well, it seems like we're still sort of in a holding pattern on that.
Yeah, markets faded this as a thing that they had to care about really, really quickly,
rightly or wrongly.
I mean, basically, you know, the when when it started happening, that was the debate
on Twitter was World War Three or nothing burger and markets voted
You know not nothing burger in terms of people's lives
But in terms of what they were going to care about very very quickly doesn't mean they're right
But that's certainly there's pretty clear consensus now
I think that you're right that a lot of this has to do with
The various signals that Trump and the administration are giving it any given time. And it certainly doesn't seem like we're cascading towards inevitable, you know, US involvement
right now.
So I think that that gives markets a reason to be a little bit more calm about it.
But it's a fascinating one for sure.
Yeah.
And sort of the last topic, I think here that's relevant when talking about price action and
what's happening with the market in general is that we continue to see these relatively historic inflows
into the Bitcoin ETFs, Ethereum ETFs as well, by the way.
But 2.4 billion in eight days,
a pretty astounding number considering price isn't moving.
Yeah, yeah, it's, there's a lot of movement over here
for not clear reasons why.
Yeah, you would think that if you have 2.4, 2.5 billion
in just over a week in buying on the ETF side
that you would see spot price reflecting that.
People were one of the sources of,
or one of the discourses around this
is whether we're seeing some of that flight to safety behavior
show up there rather than in actual price.
Is that an indicator of that?
Or is it something else entirely hard to tell?
Obviously, it's you know, thank God because otherwise people like us wouldn't have the
ability to create content speculating on things.
But it's, it's certainly it's notable for some reason or other.
Yeah, talk about the real flight to safety around the world.
It's obviously stable coins, right?
And I think that's our next topic.
In general, Senate passes genius stable coins, right? And I think that's our next topic in general,
Senate passes genius stable coin bill,
giving crypto industry first major legislative win.
This obviously has now passed the Senate
with tremendous bipartisan support,
I believe 68 votes in favor.
That does not happen in the Senate for anything,
much less a crypto related bill.
So that's astounding.
I spoke to Hagerty actually randomly on Wednesday,
the day after this happened,
we'd had it on the books for months and I just kind of got impeccable timing.
But he said he doesn't think there'll be many impediments in the House that they're already
obviously speaking with their counterparts there and the stable act that was proposed
in the House is not far different from the genius act. And obviously Trump is pounding
the pavement on this to get it done. Right. He's on truth social saying this is one of his priorities. So it seems like this is going
to happen. This is our first of many stable coin stories. But let's stop here for the
moment and talk about the genius act. Yeah. I mean, after all the bluster and all the
last minute is this, you know, are things changing? Is there a resurgence of the anti
crypto army? Like all of these considerations push comes to shove, the bill actually addressed
a lot of the concerns and had large bipartisan consensus.
It's actually very encouraging to see that,
that as much as things got sort of loud
towards the last minute, it appears to be cascading ahead.
Now the one sort of like poison pill question in the house
is whether, you know, there's, there are a large group
of people, including many people that, you know, we tend to agree with on these issues that are really intent on getting the market structure bill combined, Warren Davidson among them.
And I don't, I don't exactly see the logic as it so clearly is not going to happen, but, you know, there's that, that's the, that's the, the sort of one wrinkle that I'm keeping track of in the House debate.
I don't think there's issues with the reconciliation of two just stablecoin bills.
It's a question of whether the market structure bill can find its way in there too.
That would be a disaster.
Market structure is so much more complicated than legislating on stablecoins.
This is so clearly important for the US dollar, for the United States.
These already exist, they're already successful.
Wrapping in market structure,
which is gonna have to dictate what's a security
and what's a commodity, how exchanges can operate,
who can custody, whether it can be the same broker
and custodian, market structure is literally
everything else.
Wrapping these together, that goes through the House,
gets complicated, goes back to the Senate,
back to the House, back to the Senate.
That's no way that gets done by August if they do that.
Yeah, it's so complicated, in fact,
that there are basically backup bills that were introduced
by Amer and others to deal with just parts of the market
structure bill, specifically the securities versus commodity
designation.
They rip that part out as, if we can't get market structure done,
at least let's have that clarity,
because that's such a big thorny issue,
we can kind of focus that in. So given that people are trying to rip pieces out of the market structure bill to try to get, you know, individual pieces past, it seems unlikely to me that we're going to be able to graph that whole thing onto another piece of legislation, which, you know, while bipartisan was still not an easy, you know, road to hoe to get it to where it is. So, you know, we'll see. It could also just be talk. It could be political strategy to get the debate.
So who knows?
Yeah.
And as we talk about that, clearly we had impeccable timing as we've talked about from
Circle with their IPO.
Circle stock nears $200 per share, rises over 500% two weeks after going public.
So they nailed this right before the Genius act obviously was passed, but they caught this perfect
moment in time, where there was this heavy, heavy thirst for a
way to invest in stable coins. And there really wasn't. And now
you could obviously buy circle and Coinbase stock obviously
flying at the same. Take a look. It's trading up 14.5% free
market up another $29 right now. So it's gonna be opening around
230.
Yeah, I mean, I thought you were gonna put up a picture of
Jeremy O'Leary's Scrooge McDuck swimming in his pool of gold
after this one. But no, I mean, you know, we talked about this
before, but it is it is very clear that all the market
cared about was exposure to stable coin thesis. And all of
the details around, and all of the details
around, well, all the details just didn't matter ultimately,
you know. But this is, this is, you know, even more than, you
know, stock price is always reflexive in the sense that it
goes up and people pay more attention, and it gets stronger.
And that creates more opportunities for it to actually
get stronger, right? There's always that sort of reflexivity.
But in this case, I think it's even more important given that circle remains at the moment the sort of stable, you know, legitimate, or at least regulated stable coin infrastructure in the US. And the more that it goes up, the more that institutions get involved and decide to pick this horse rather than betting on whatever sort of, you know, bank stable coin is going to come next.
The more that circle has the ability to compete when those bank stable coins inevitably show up.
Yeah, it's just absolutely wild to see how successful this has been.
And with all the missteps and bad launches that we've seen in crypto,
it's just nice to see one get a massive, massive win.
And following on the heels of this,
it's gonna be private stablecoins left and right.
I mean, we've got stablecoin adoption by corporates
poised to grow after US Senate passes key bill.
You got Walmart and Amazon publicly saying
they're gonna do this.
Meta, obviously already floating the idea
of bringing back Libra or some form of that.
And of course, you move over from the technologists
and corporates to the banks.
As we know, JPMorgan pushes JPMD pilot on base
says deposit tokens, beat stable coins.
So this is not exactly a stable coin,
but something similar.
And I do definitely-
Don't you dare use the word stable coin
to describe their thing, which is a stable coin,
but not exactly a stable coin.
Yeah, how dare you?
An algorithmic, non algorithmic, sometimes stable coin, but not exactly a stable coin. Yeah, how dare you an algorithmic non algorithmic, sometimes stable coin, but on base,
like I did not have on my bingo card that JP Morgan would be going to like the degenerate
layer two world to start testing things. Certainly the most that is absolutely the
most notable part of that announcement. JP Morgan has been messing around with private
and their own blockchains forever. And you know, obviously, those things are connected sort of vaguely
to existing infrastructure. But this is the sort of, you know, the move to a public infrastructure
like this is very, very different play for them. And I think shows just, you know, where the world
is headed. Yeah, it should be noted. Also, we saw announcements from Bank of America that they're working on this society general,
I don't speak French. So, you know, pardon my horrible Pepe
Le Pew accent there. But this is coming every I mean, stable coin
coming to every institution near you.
There's going to be a fog, sort of a bit of a fog too, that is
already being exploited politically, where companies
are going to talk about adopting stable coins and
that'll be it'll be unclear or at least made to feel unclear whether that means they're going to adopt stable coins as a tool you know or a payment that they accept versus creating their own stable
coin if you ask the anti-crypto army right now every company that is announcing that they're
going to interact with stable coins is going and trying to create their own stable coin, which is obviously not what's actually happening.
But you know, that's it.
They won't be interoperable.
They'll just you know, I think the market the free market will decide and we'll probably
end up with a few incumbents and maybe a few of these larger ones using them for their
own private purposes like a JP Morgan and everyone else will probably get washed out.
Yep.
That's my next story here.
Is that Musk's X to launch trading and payments
and push toward everything act report.
We've been hearing about this for a very long time.
Of course, we were already supposed to have Doge
taking over the world as the base payment for the planet
starting on X, but it seems like this is a real announcement
that they're going to be pushing
towards open trading and payments.
Interestingly, I remember they kind of had to deal with the
toro there for a while, kind of never heard about it again. But
I know they had sort of a trading or at least you would
get the stock ticker price, honestly, I don't even remember
and payments they've been talking about forever. And
that's his background.
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, the both of these things are theoretically
interesting and are going to be practically interesting based entirely on how much people
actually want to use this for that, you know, it's, it's a very hard thing to go from where
Twitter slash x is now to the everything app that he envisions. You know, when it comes,
when it comes to trading, it's like, who is the
audience that is going to trade on x, you kind of have to like,
it doesn't seem like it's going to be existing established
traders. So you have to think that it's maybe like new people
who haven't come in yet, which is totally plausible, I guess,
theoretically, but I don't know, it's, it's interesting. But I
would, I would not put my, I'm not particularly bullish on the likelihood of success. I
100% agree with that. It's not like your average Robin Hood client is gonna just flip over and say I want to trade on X. Yeah
but I also listen if like if the idea of an everything app for you know, an English-speaking market is
compelling to some people. Having Elon do it, who has the ability to do things
that don't work for a very long time
until maybe they do work,
is a good place for it to happen, right?
Elon, if he does this, he's not gonna turn around
and turn it off six months later
because it wasn't performing.
It's gonna beat that thing into the ground
until it potentially works.
So, you know, we'll see.
Okay, so you and I have had a lot of conversations about
Bitcoin, Treasury companies and what those look like in context
of the greater markets. It's clearly becoming more obvious
that these are the altcoins of this of this cycle to some
degree. But we've started to see obviously XRP Treasury
companies and Solana XRP companies.
Now we got the first report was that TRX was going public, that Tron was going public in
a reverse merger. Now the story I guess has been clarified a bit. Justin Sun linked firm
plans to go public in US with TRX acquisition strategy. I believe they also had in the original
announcement that Eric Trump was an advisor and then he said, No, I'm just his buddy, but I'm not an advisor. But the
topic we had was, is this putting in the top for crypto treasury companies?
I mean, I hate calling tops, but boy, if you're going to be comfortable calling a calling
a top, you know, I don't know, look,
there's clearly still room to run in terms of market demand for Bitcoin treasury companies.
That's pretty inarguable at this point. And so the, the big issue is that even if this
is the top, it could be a very long time before the market realizes it was the top. And that's,
you know, the in-between intervening part is where it all gets chaotic. But
I don't know, I will only say this. I know a bunch of people
who are sort of outside crypto, who have been invigorated by
the return of the SPAC structure as a tool, not because they
want to chamoth it. But because getting certain types of
vehicles public faster is actually like a useful thing to
have access to. And boy, is actually like a useful thing to have access to.
And boy, are they like crypto is going to screw it up again for us. After they heard this
announcement, and it's hard to say. Whether it's him or not, I already said that when it wasn't
TRX to be fair. But it is pretty crazy. I guess it was Dan from chart guys who was on yesterday.
And he was basically saying, I think it was him, but he was saying that all the all coin market is suffering
because you can just go trade Coinbase in circle.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
If you get or or Nakamoto or 21 or micro strategy, like the same people who were
investing in ICS and making these quick 2030 X's, if not more, are now playing
in public markets where there's a hundred X the liquidity and it's a stock.
I don't know, we never learned.
We'll see how it ends.
We never learned.
Listen, our final story is not necessarily crypto related,
but everything is apparently crypto related.
Fed officials hold rates again,
still see two cuts by year end.
I mean, these two cuts have been right there on on the horizon. Yeah the reporting on this is actually weird because so there was a this is the most divided
I think that the Fed has ever been in terms of where they think things are going to land.
Not divided in terms of necessarily of you know disagreement about what should be done in the
short term but divided in terms of what they're in, you know, what they believe
will come next. Powell's whole conversation was about humility and having, you know, no idea how these tariffs were
going to impact things and needing more time to see. And when it came to the, the cuts, I think it was, you know, there
were the, by a margin of like one vote, the, the consensus was that there were going to be two. But the number of, of governors who
thought that we were going to get zero cuts this year jumped from like four to six. So you got one group who's, you
know, still on the two train, but you have another group that's, that's growing that thinks we're going to see no
cuts. So the TLDRs that no one has any idea. And, you know, to their credit, they're saying they have no idea,
basically. And in the circumstance of having no idea,'re saying they have no idea basically, and in in the
circumstance of having no idea, Powell's default is always going
to be to turtle up and do nothing.
Trump had some not so kind words for him again this this week,
you know, he kind of backed off on the reddit for a while, what
he called him, I don't know if he called him dumb or not so
smart. But you know, it's like, you can tell that he's trying
not to do it. And then once he starts vomiting about Powell,
just goes and goes and goes.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he's trying that hard.
Yeah, okay. Good point. I don't think I don't think maybe it's
fair. I think you love him or hate him. Donald Trump's probably
gonna tell you what he thinks.
Yeah, yeah. No, I listen, I the tough thing is, I don't know,
there's the, this is right now,
what you should do with fed policy is an area
where a lot of reasonable people actually just disagree.
It's not a strong consensus.
I do think that in general, people are,
I'm seeing more people peel over to the side
of it's time to cut, then head in the other direction.
But it's hard to argue that things its time to cut, then you know, then then head in the other direction. But, you know, it's hard to
argue that things are like real clear, given given just how
much is up in the air. You know, we have we have real
volatility and we have self imposed volatility right now.
And you know, those two things combined to a very tricky
environment.
Yeah, man. We nailed we cooked through that. Honestly, though,
this is still way more exciting than last summer. Yes.
We were doing these shows last summer, and we were like, five.
Yeah.
How about the Friday one and a half,
and we really don't even want to talk about the half?
Seriously, let's go.
Let's do the thing that they do on the top 40 countdown,
where they go list last year's top five
and listen to the full first top one song just to kill time.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they actually had good songs.
Well, yeah, we had bad songs last summer in
that context. So it's glad I'm glad that we're actually talking about huge things. I think
it's actually more just a function of how big news has become small news as we become
mainstream and such a part of the popular narrative. Yeah, there's obviously a time
when a stable coin bill passing would have filled five hours of conversation for two
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