The Wolf Of All Streets - Will The USA Blow Its Chance With Bitcoin? Unpacking Crypto Week

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is the United States government going to blow their chance at getting crypto regulation right? It seemed like a slam dunk that it's all going to very easily pass through the house and head to Trump's desk. But yesterday we had three procedural votes or one procedural vote with three bills that didn't make it past the house. There's been a lot to update you on since then. But of course, this is the United States government and any government that we're talking about, which means that nothing can happen
Starting point is 00:00:29 easily. I've got one of the best possible guests to discuss this, Eleanor Torette, who's on top of all of the news all of the time and is the queen of breaking all of the news that we all follow. Going to unpack that and everything else happening in the market right now. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Happy Crypto Week in the United States to all who celebrate.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I think it's also Anti-Crypto Corruption Week or something like that, depending on which party you follow, but we're going to stick with the Crypto Week narrative. It's supposed to be the best week ever for crypto. A whole bunch of bills going to pass, going to get clear legislation leading to clear regulation. But of course, this is the United States government and it can't be that easy. Going to bring on Ellie right now. Good morning. How are you?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Good morning, Scott. Good. How are you? First of all, congrats on being unchained from Fox and being able to come back on shows again and also on your citizenship. I had no idea until I saw your post that you're now United States citizen. I frankly had no idea that you were not United States citizen, of course. Thank you. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Thank you. Yes, I know. I sound very American, so not a lot of people know that I was actually born in the UK, but I've been here for over 20 years. So I am now officially, officially an American. Wow. Welcome, for better or for worse. And speaking of being an American, here we have crypto week, of course, which we've been talking about endlessly
Starting point is 00:02:06 here. We know that there were three basically main priorities listed for crypto week, we correct, we got the genius bill, which is already passed the Senate. So looking for that to pass the house and get signed. Then we have sort of the beginnings of the clarity act, which is more market structure and clarity, which starting in the house, nothing to the set it yet. And then of course, some anti-CBDC language, but it seems like everybody's not quite on board.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We thought this was gonna be a layup. And of course, crypto bill stall in House as procedural vote fails. Maybe you can tell us what that means first, whether that's particularly important or whether we're blowing it out of proportion. Right, so procedural votes fail a lot of the time. We saw the same thing happen in the Senate
Starting point is 00:02:50 a couple of months ago in May. In fact, when the genius bill was being brought to the floor, it was the motion to proceed on the motion to start voting or to start debate on the genius bill in the Senate. And if you remember, that was a long time ago. It feels like a long time ago. It feels like a long time ago. It was May only.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That was pretty dramatic because we saw a lot of Democrats and also two Republicans if you remember. It was Josh Hawley and Rand Paul come out and say, voting against it, saying no, we're not going to side with you guys on this legislation. But it caused a lot of drama. But you've got to remember that this is procedural. That was Senate procedure.
Starting point is 00:03:24 This is House procedure. that this is procedural, right? That was Senate procedure, this is House procedure, and this is not an actual vote on the bills or the substance of the bills. It was more of a stand by these 13 Republicans. It was 12 Republicans that we saw yesterday side with Democrats to not want to bring these bills to the floor for a vote. If you count Steve Scalise, who's obviously the majority leader, and he had to vote, he had to change his vote in order to bring it back up for a vote today, which we'll see that vote take place after midday.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But basically, it was sort of a stand by these House Republicans who had to push through the one big, beautiful bill a couple weeks ago that they weren't exactly happy with a lot of the provisions. This was a bit of weeks ago that they weren't exactly happy with a lot of the provisions. This was a bit of grandstanding, kind of saying we weren't happy with what the Senate gave us on OBBBB, OBBBBB, OBBBBB.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And, right, exactly. And the way they went about this, as we saw, as you saw, was the sort of so-called backdoor route to this CBDC legislation that could potentially happen if genius passes as a standalone bill. And that's sort of the issue as well, right? We're seeing some members who are concerned that if genius passes without clarity attached, without this anti-CBDC surveillance state act, which is a bill from Tom Emmer, the majority whip, then there may be some backdoor way to get a CBDC legislation in the future.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Now there's actually language in the genius act, which I pointed to yesterday that that would prevent this or at least prevent the federal reserve from creating a retail CBDC. So a CBDC that's available to the general public. So you know that there are backstops here, but I think a lot of yesterday was basically just kind of trying to make a point. And then you obviously saw President Trump, President Trump held a very short meeting with 11 of those 12 members at the White House yesterday in the Oval Office and came to the conclusion, at least, you know, according to his two social posts that those Republicans who voted no yesterday will in fact flip their votes today.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So it'll be an interesting time to see, you know, 1220. I think we're expected to see the first votes start to trickle in. So we'll see if President Trump, you know, managed to make the art of the deal as he is so famous for doing. Yeah, he got them in there and said, get your shit together. Let's
Starting point is 00:05:45 be real, right. And French Hill says that he has enough votes to get this passed. They're strong bipartisan support. So I guess kind of unpacking what you said, you made it very clear that there is anti CBDC language in the genius act, right? So is this a misunderstanding by those members? For some reason, somebody told them the Genius Act would open the D'Morso CBDC because in my mind, if we start deflating or trying to combine these three bills,
Starting point is 00:06:14 this literally never passes, especially market structure clarity because that's really complicated. Stablecoin's a lot simpler than market structure. Right. Well, in theory, it was supposed to be right. I think the substance, you're right, is definitely, but Cynthia Lemmis has been saying, famously, she said in that fireside chat with Bo Heinz and Tim Scott a couple of weeks ago, it was as difficult as giving dry birth to a porcupine.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So clearly a little bit more difficult than some senators expected. Oh, yeah, yeah, dry birth to a porcupine. So yeah, sounds sounds really excruciating. But basically, yeah, so so in substance, genius was supposed to be a little bit easier, easier of a lift than then then clarity. But if you look at my tweet, I did screenshot the part in the bill where it, that language, the thing that I'm learning covering, the Senate, the House, all the bill language, legalese,
Starting point is 00:07:16 everything that this job has kind of put me in and I've never expected that I would cover it at this level, but I have. This language here is the little stipulation and it's kind of no wonder, right, that like members who probably did not read the entire bill and have staffers who can say, you know, here's what's in it and here's what's not, that this was missed. I mean, it only says nothing in this act shall be construed as expanding the authority of the board with respect to the services the board can make directly available to the public. So it's not explicitly saying in there, this bill shall ban all efforts and all attempts by the central bank
Starting point is 00:07:50 to create a central bank digital currency. It's not that explicit, but I'm learning with bill language. They kind of have to make it a little bit nebulous to prevent events like we saw yesterday where huge swaths of the House or the Senate will take offense to it and the bill will not pass because of this one thing. But it's interesting that this was like the one thing that the members were concerned about that was actually in it that they missed.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But it's all because of this sort of nebulous language that they use. Yeah, the thing is we don't really want legislation that's extremely explicit on every single detail, especially for something like market clarity, because there would be so many unintended consequences to doing that with a bunch of people who don't really understand the industry, is certainly with nobody understanding what the potential future of the industry is. So I think everybody really just wants kind of vague guardrails and to let the regulators and the industry find their way within those sort of clear restrictions.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So I can see how this is challenging if you're a congressperson or a senator. Yeah. And I think the shock value yesterday was that it was, you know, 12, 13 Republicans. Like you expected a lot of the Democrats, in fact mostly are all of the Democrats voted against this bill. You mentioned Anti-Crypto Corruption Week, Maxine Waters and Stephen Lynch dubbed it this week, you know, as sort of the counter narrative to Crypto Week, trying to make the point that, you know, President Trump is profiting from his crypto ventures and we should put, you know, we should make this illegal and put things in bills that should prevent this
Starting point is 00:09:25 from happening. But I think the fact that it was the 13 GOP going against sort of party lines was sort of the, well, that was the headline yesterday. But as we saw, maybe it was just a point they were trying to make at the moment. The White House is telling them that they want the Genius Act passed as a clean bill, right?
Starting point is 00:09:44 No amendments to Genius. And I think a couple of the members, Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of them. You know, she said that she was not encouraged by the fact that Speaker Johnson would not let them make amendments to Genius, just send it right to the president's desk. So I think it was more of a, you know, trying to make a point, trying to make a little bit of a stand. But like I said, you know, a couple hours, three hours, we'll see if that meeting last night in the Oval Office came to anything.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm sure it will. I'm sure this will pass, but it's just interesting that this was the Republicans big thing, crypto week and then- Right, right. And they have all the power in every single, you know, on the, in the Senate, in the House, certainly with the presidency and still had to make a stand
Starting point is 00:10:24 or kind of muck it up on the goal line. But if it gets across the house, certainly with the presidency and still had to make a stand or kind of muck it up on the goal line. But if it gets across the line, I guess it'll be forgotten. Right. And it's always good for you know, it's good for drama, right? It's good for podcasts, good for newsletters, business, you're an iron, you have a lot to write about a lot to talk about. If we had an efficient government, we wouldn't need Bitcoin at all. So we would have literally nothing to talk about in the first place. So listen, obviously, I think since genius
Starting point is 00:10:51 passed the Senate in general, we've seen sort of this Cambrian explosion and interest in stable coins. We had the circle IPO, which everybody knows obviously pulled effectively a 10x from the value the day before the IPO. And now we have these kinds of announcements, left and right, Citigroup ways issuing stablecoin to expand digital payment capabilities. We know Bank of America is doing the same. We've seen similar announcements from JP Morgan. It feels like everybody expects stablecoin clarity
Starting point is 00:11:20 or we wouldn't be seeing these kinds of announcements. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the pace we're seeing them, I know I feel kind of like maybe a few months ago, this would have been major breaking news and everybody would have been freaking out about it. But I feel like it is kind of the norm now. Right. You've seen all these massive names come in. It's kind of like, yeah, well, I'm surprised they're not launching a stable. Well, you know, the companies that haven't announced yet, it's like, well,
Starting point is 00:11:41 why haven't you announced yet? It's kind of weird that you haven't. So it is becoming, you know, sort of the norm at this point, I feel. What do you think the stable coin market looks like once genius is passed and we have endless stable coins from effectively every bank, potentially companies, right? I know there is language in genius that prevents the metas and the Googles from necessarily starting their own stable coins because of the amount of data they have, which I think is pretty wise. Or at least they have to jump through some extra hoops. But do we need thousands of stable coins? We already have a few that seem to look great.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yeah, no. The market will definitely be flooded. I think the market valuation of stable coins will also go up. I think it's close to, it's up there in the hundreds of billions, I believe, already, but that's obviously going to explode. We'll probably see some more consolidation in the space as well, maybe some more IPOs. But yeah, to your point, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of stablecoins already, and there's probably two that most people in the industry use. And then you're also thinking about potentially state issued ones as well. It's July and I believe the Wyoming Stable Token Commission was targeting July to launch its state-backed stable coin token. Wyoming is very obviously crypto forward as we know, they were kind of first, they were pioneers when it came to the banking legislation, the speedy banks, a lot of companies cracking, just move their headquarters there because of the crypto friendly laws.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Ripple has a location there. So kind of unsurprising that they would do this. But then that kind of also goes back into the question of like, how similar really to a CBDC, right? When a state is issuing a stable coin as opposed to the federal government, how is that different? So yeah, stable coins all over really. And then obviously the Trump family too has their stable coins. Yeah. And they had, my God, the amount of like FUD around that stable coin. I don't think we've even unpacked it, but there was this wild story in Bloomberg that Binance had helped USD1. Did you see that story?
Starting point is 00:13:48 I did. I did. Literally zero evidence of anything. Right. Right. It was the craziest story. It was one of the craziest stories I've ever read. Obviously, CZ called it FUD. But clearly stable coins, I think we don't need to talk about that. Clearly stable coins are the thing right now. I just have my doubt that everybody is going to need to have one. So maybe the free market is going to determine which are successful and which are not.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And certainly this legislation will determine who can and can't launch them. Yeah, absolutely. And then of course, we have market structure coming up too. So the Senate is also getting in on crypto week this week. They are set to launch their or release their discussion draft of their own market structure text. It was supposed to be today. It's actually going to be tomorrow now because everything that went on at the house yesterday. So expect to see a discussion draft from Senate banking. That's Tim Scott and Cynthia Lummis. Senate Ag yesterday
Starting point is 00:14:38 had their first. Yeah, well, interesting, right? Elizabeth Warren put out principles for market structure and it was kind of in the Elizabeth Warren way, saying we need to nip the Trump corruption and blah, blah, blah, blah. But it wasn't the anti-crypto army that she was talking about only maybe a year or so ago. So the fact that she's coming on board, I think Senator Cortez Masto, she's a Democrat, she congratulated A16Z for moving their headquarters into I believe it's Nevada. And I think, let me see, I just want to make sure I got this right before I say it live on air. Yeah, so she's from Las Vegas and A16Z moved to either their headquarters or opened a location in Nevada. And she congratulated them on that. A16Z is a big proponent of crypto legislation, market structure legislation. Having her on board will be really big for
Starting point is 00:15:40 the Senate Banking Committee, I think, as well. If they can get some more dems on the market structure side of things than they did on stablecoin in Senate banking, that'll the Senate Banking Committee, I think as well. If they can get some more dems on the market structure side of things than they did on stablecoin and Senate banking, that'll be a big win for them. Yeah. I mean, you think that this would just be a layup for Democrats to support this after seeing how much money the industry gave in the previous elections and how unpalatable the anti-crypto army is, but I never leave it to politicians to see the obvious. Maybe quickly, so just for clarity, the Genius Act could go into law this week, right?
Starting point is 00:16:13 I mean, it passes the House. It goes to Trump's desk. He signs it. The other two that we're talking about, this is sort of the first step. Like, they're going through the House, but now we'll have to see them go through the Senate, and then eventually, hopefully, to the desk.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So they're sort of at different levels in the process. Correct. Yes. Yes. And I think that was part of the issue yesterday was the fact that genius will likely pass as a standalone bill. If there's not that protection, I guess, added protection of the anti-CPDC state surveillance act on top of it, because they're not being packaged together, then maybe there's that way for that backdoor CBDC, even though the language that I mentioned earlier is also in the Genius Act. But yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So the White House, I heard, I haven't, it is not on the schedule yet, but I heard from multiple people that the White House has already scheduled time on Friday for a signing ceremony for the Genius Act, because they are that sure that this thing is gonna pass and it is gonna be on the desk. Yeah, yeah, so. He must have been so pissed yesterday then, the law passes on Friday, right? And then you've got clarity and the CBDC bill will go to the Senate for consideration. It'll be interesting to see how they either package that, reconcile it with their own
Starting point is 00:17:31 market structure text. Senate ag is an entirely different beast in this whole setup, right? Because they have jurisdiction over the CFTC, Senate banking has jurisdiction over the SEC, so they've got to work together. They're actually doing separate versions of market structure tech. So the House and the Senate work in very different ways. The House is a little bit more flexible
Starting point is 00:17:52 with how they can collaborate on things. You saw with the clarity markup, those happened on the same day. The bills were reconciled in different committees, but then they were put together as one after the fact. The Senate's a little bit more complicated. So it's just a lot of, I'd like to say a lot of cooks in the kitchen on this one.
Starting point is 00:18:12 There's that September deadline, we saw David Sachs and Bo Hines say we're gonna have market structure done by September. Not sure how realistic that is, just in terms of how the Senate works, what we saw with genius. Right, the Democrats' opposition to this whole thing, what we saw yesterday in, the Democrats opposition to this whole thing, what we saw yesterday in the house,
Starting point is 00:18:27 it's one big unknown. It's like, I feel like everybody likes to think that they know what's gonna happen and there's good feeling and good momentum and even among crypto week, right? All these events and things you're seeing in the industry this week, everybody's just like, spirits are high,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but then all of a sudden that snafu yesterday and it just comes crashing down. I mean, listen, I'm old enough to remember when we had an executive order that said we were going to get a strategic Bitcoin reserve that legislation seems to been tabled behind these three. But also, many maybe remember, really quick, that we also had all these deadlines from we were supposed to find out how much Bitcoin the United States government even owned. I haven't heard about that again. There are all these things
Starting point is 00:19:05 that we're supposed to be getting clarity on that kind of just disappeared into the ether as they tend to. Yeah, update there, just because Bo did mention it at the fireside with Lamis and Scott a couple of weeks ago. So that report about how much Bitcoin and other digital assets the government holds, they have that, the treasury has that report.
Starting point is 00:19:25 The executive order did not mandate that it had to be made public. Bo made that point. He said that they might make it public. However, the report, the White House report, so if you remember back in January, President Trump's executive order said, I'm asking the presidential working group
Starting point is 00:19:41 to give me a 180 day report. That report is actually due on the 22nd. That's the deadline. So we could hear more surrounding the Bitcoin's reserve, how they're going to fund it, how much the government owns in Bitcoin, potentially in that report. But I heard the report is like extensive, like it's like over 100 pages and the Treasury is kind of working through that right now. So we have a couple other stories outside of what's specifically happening, I think,
Starting point is 00:20:06 on Capitol Hill that have been interesting and worth noting, obviously, spot Bitcoin ETFs, log 403 million in net inflows. We had $2 billion days back to back last week. So I think just very, very clear that we're seeing insane flows into all these ETFs, but ETH actually has been relatively keeping up to some degree or not, not at the same, but doing its proportion. And that's because we have stories like Peter Thiel's Founders Fund holds 9.1% stake in either treasury company.
Starting point is 00:20:37 ETH races 6% against Bitcoin as Genius Act puts spotlight on yield bearing stable coins, blah, blah, blah, I love these narratives. But very clear that the market is liking what's going on. And for once, Ethereum seems to not be like the ugly, redheaded stepchild in the corner. Right. Right. I am also interested to see what we're going to see out of the CFTC in terms of what's the next approval going to be, which altcoin is going to be approved for an ETF next. I think looking at James and Eric's analysis, it seems XRP, Solana have a good shot at passing this year.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It'll just be interesting to see how they set up and maybe do sort of more of a general outline for how companies apply for tokens. They're flooded, right? I mean, just completely flooded with applications, from everything from Pudgey Penguins to Doge to Swanna. We had Trump ETFs, yeah. Trump ETFs, right. And then, right.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And then there's that whole other thing, right? Where the, Truth Social is applying for Bitcoin ETFs. And it's just, it's a wild ride. So I would love your opinion on treasury companies. We got this one breaking yesterday. I'm struggling mentally to unpack this one. Maybe you can help. I don't know if you looked at it. Cantor Fitzgerald's back to close 4 billion Bitcoin deal with Adam Back. Literally Adam Back selling them $3 to $4 billion worth of his Bitcoin. We know obviously Cantor Fitzgerald launched 21
Starting point is 00:22:10 with Tether and Jack Maulers. Right. This treasure, so first I have so many questions. I wanna ask Adam, but I don't wanna be rude. Like, why would he wanna sell three to $4 billion of his Bitcoin to a treasury company as a self custody believing hardcore maxi and this has been the case with a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I mean, I know the answer. It's because you send it into one of these and you get stock in return and it's worth seven times the Bitcoin. I was gonna say, it gets a little equity, yeah. But like, man, this is like our heroes are going into the treasury space for the extra dough. Going to the dark side.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I mean, what do you think of the treasury company trend in general and of this news? I mean, first of all, it's just, I love that Atomback casually has three to 4 billion to just sell these guys. Right, right. I think it's probably going to end up as maybe a little bit of a bubble.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I don't know how that ends, honestly. Not making any predictions here, but we actually had Jake Churwinski and Jesse on from Variant and we asked them this very thing because when we have people on the podcast, news of the day topics come up. We've wanted to ask our guests about Bitcoin treasury companies and is it just a fad? Is it a bubble? What's the future here? And they pretty much said what I just said, which was it seems to be a bit of a fad. Not really sure where this is going to end up, but I guess we'll see. I think Sarah obviously went on to something with this first thing. Right, right. And it's not just Bitcoin anymore, right? I'm hearing XRP, Treasury companies are being considered.
Starting point is 00:23:51 You've obviously got the ETH one that you just mentioned. And I think that the argument for the hedge against the dollar is also an interesting component to it. Well, I keep saying there's Bitcoin Treasury companies, which is financially engineering a balance sheet to buy more Bitcoin and taking on debt. And then there's just Bitcoin balance sheet companies, which is like what you just said. I got 15 million sitting here in cash,
Starting point is 00:24:14 I might as well put a million or two of it into Bitcoin to hedge. That's literally what MicroStrategy originally did. And that's what Esla did, and that's what Square did. And so I think we know that there's that approach. I think that's, there's no way that blows up. But these treasury companies, I've also heard privately outside, I guess, of this deal, which everyone was saying,
Starting point is 00:24:35 this might be the last big one. I was hearing this before it was even announced over the past few days, is that the demand for these huge players is diminished. Like it's that people are trying to raise a billion bucks, even two weeks after Pomp was able to do it, or three weeks, and there's just not, the money that was going to be deployed in these
Starting point is 00:24:52 has been deployed into these. And is there like a hesitancy now because of the, they feel like it might be a saturated space at this point? I think that's A, I think B, they're looking for like sort of less untamed pastures, so to speak. You see what MetaPlanet did in Japan. MetaPlanet is so successful because in Japan, there's really no way for institutions to buy Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So MetaPlanet is the only option, kind of like MicroStrategy was before ETFs. So I think now everybody wants to go find other countries to do Bitcoin treasury companies in where there's no institutional access. But also like there's just only so many Bitcoin whales who are willing to send in, you know, 100, 200, $300 million of their Bitcoins into these before that just runs out. But to me, it just feels like the ICO craze, you know, it's just like early people who are rich and able to fund these, make their instant 9, 10 or more X,
Starting point is 00:25:49 they're already out by the time the stock is even trading. Yeah, yeah. We know how to let it to retail. If you buy something at a 20 X multiple to nav, like it's gonna come down. You mentioned the ICO craze. Something else that Jake and Jesse mentioned on the podcast came out this morning was that we could see a resurgence of the ICO craze, maybe not the craze, but ICOs
Starting point is 00:26:12 under the new regulatory regime with maybe the SEC providing for safe harbors for token fundraising and founders being able to hold onto their coins for a certain amount of time. And it'll be an interesting thing to keep in mind with clarity, obviously, going through the House, the Senate, how long is that gonna take? Will the SEC come out with rules ahead of that so the market can kind of stay on track? So it's just something else to think about, potential resurgence of ICOs as well.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I know we have one more minute, but anything else on your radar that I might have missed? Oh goodness. So Roman Storm trial. I was there yesterday. It's an important case for DeFi because it could set a precedent for how software developers are viewed under the law in the US. If he's found guilty, it could open up software developers not even in crypto elsewhere as well, to be liable for things that happen on their protocols, on their platforms. An interesting sort of dichotomy that came up yesterday.
Starting point is 00:27:16 The first government's first witness was a woman who was talked out of spending $190,000 of her life savings, putting it into a trading scheme, through a guy who contacted her on WhatsApp. And the parallel there is that WhatsApp is technically like a neutral platform, a neutral software that a bad actor used to scam this woman out of her life savings.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Are they going after the WhatsApp developers? Drug dealers use iPhones. we need to ban iPhones. Exactly, right, right, right. So there's this whole big argument, how far are we gonna go with this? So it will be very interesting to see how it plays out, opening statements for yesterday. It's gonna run for about three weeks.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So I will keep you all updated in my newsletter and on Twitter on that. Awesome, I think my favorite comment here is, I would love to know what Ellie's top three crypto holdings are, I can answer that, she doesn't have any. Yep, you got it in one. I don't own any crypto, so. See, there are people who are actual journalists out there
Starting point is 00:28:16 who go against necessarily even their own self-interest to objectively cover an industry. And if you own it, it's very hard, I will even say not to be obviously somewhat biased, which I know we've talked about is the reason you don you own it, it's very hard, I will even say, not to be obviously somewhat biased, which I know we've talked about is the reason you don't do it, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Great answer. Okay, so listen, the quick elevator pitch, where can everybody find all the things that you're doing now that you're not at Fox, because you have an amazing podcast of your own, a newsletter, as you mentioned. Thank you. Yeah, so Crypto in America podcast, you can find it on everywhere you get podcasts and
Starting point is 00:28:47 my newsletter comes out three times a week on Substack, but I also post to my Twitter page. So just keep an eye on my ex account at Eleanor Tarrett and you shouldn't miss anything. Yeah, guys, keep your eye on her ex account, especially this week, because we're going to have the storm trial, the votes, all of the updates, there's going to be a lot to keep up with and you're always first. So thank you, Elliot, for everything you do and for coming on today.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Thank you, Scott. Thanks as always. See you soon. All right, guys, obviously it's Wednesday, which means we talked very briefly about Aptos here. They've set yet another record here. More stables, more milestones, more proof. Aptos is the chain of choice for stables
Starting point is 00:29:26 1.35 billion in stables now on chain the fastest growing chain right now for stable coins and also Incidentally the fastest cheapest and most secure chain in general if you are building you should be building on Aptos Now on to see what the hell is happening in this market. Bitcoin's under $119,000. So I think it's dead. Again, I'd have to start our segments the same every time. So hey, we're at 123. We were 115 yesterday. It's over. Yeah, and we will be back up there 123 and then 127 and then 136 and then 142. I mean, it's gonna keep going up. We're not done yet.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I mean, when I'm looking at this, let me see, I'm pulling the chart a little bit here. Kind of bringing it in here a bit. But just, again, all we did was we pulled back to this, this monthly R2 pivot right here. It's all we did, we have a great wick. This was a 50%, almost exactly a 50% bounce back off from the low yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:32 So we had a good bit of volume come in, but ultimately what we have here, and people need to pay attention, is we had this trend with this large upper wick at the top here, small body, followed by a smallish body, you know, mid body here, but a large upper wick at the top here, small body, followed by a smallish body, you know, mid body here, but a long lower wick. So what it's showing you is you've got this clear area here where you've got
Starting point is 00:30:52 demand and you've got supply. Um, and it's coming right at this support. And so, you know, when I'm seeing stuff like that, I'm feeling pretty good about it. Usually we need it to, you know, break out a bit higher here. But, oh man, I think we're set to go higher. And my next target on this chart, again, this is that Bitcoin all-time history index chart here. But it's about $128,000 is the next move, based on the height of this current pullback here. So, I mean, when we look at this, you know, I don't see anything really bearish about it. A lot of people get hung up on one candle, right? A lot of people believe in this,
Starting point is 00:31:30 oh, reversal candle nonsense. And there aren't reversal candles, right? There's the pauses with the potential for reversal, but that potential has to be followed through coming up next. And right here, had we closed maybe down here at the low, I'd be thinking, okay, yeah, we could and to me right now. Yeah, I agree. So like, yeah, I was watching that candle pretty closely yesterday, because obviously, earlier in the day, there was a dip into the 16s and a little bounce that was down in the 15s for a second. I was thinking, if this really closes down here, we might see. Yeah. But again, the downside there is everyone's like, holy crap, we might go back to retest 112. I
Starting point is 00:32:22 mean, I mean, they think about the world we're in right now, you know, and people are upset that it's at 115,000. I mean, 115,000 us dollars, right? And then people are worried and upset about it. But, you know, again, every time it makes a little bit of a topping, you know, like where it pulls back a little bit, you know, the bears are out screaming it's the top and it's the end of the cycle.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And I'm here to say that's not yet. We still got further to go here. So we have this interesting situation where ETH is somewhat breaking out. I mean, I can just kind of look at my chart. I've got a couple of versions, but obviously it was kind of ranging here, busy first Bitcoin. So now you're back above the 50 and 200 for people who care. It's probably a
Starting point is 00:33:10 golden cross coming, although we all know that's sort of a lagging indicator, but clearly a breakout. I mean, it hasn't been above the 200 in years. Well, that's real quick. Let's address that. You said probably going to be, you know, whatever with the golden cross, but here's the thing, Let's address that. You said probably going to be, you know, whatever with the golden cross. But here's the thing, the golden and the, um, the death crosses, they have a lot more oomph if it happens a right where, you know, right around where price action hits. Yeah. So we're, you know, if it's coming up, they're pretty quick and we're kind of, you know, not really taking off just yet. I mean, we're pretty close to where price is. So I would say, yeah, you could expect a bump out of that. Yeah. If you do one of these and the crosses here, you know, and this crosses here and this crosses here, you've got support. Oh, that'd be real price being up here or something
Starting point is 00:33:50 like that. Yeah. And then you look at the obviously the ETH USD chart at the same time had also kind of been struggling at the 50 ma above clears that kind of 2,800 level. It looks like it's going to 4,000 to me. So, I mean, I think ETH outperforming on this move up by Bitcoin is pretty worth watching. level. It looks like it's going to 4,000 to me. So I mean, I think you outperforming on this move up by Bitcoin is pretty worth watching. Oh, for sure. For sure. I think you and I have been talking about the non-death of Ethereum. We've been fighting the doom and gloomers out there for quite a while here. But at the end of the day, Ethereum is moving a little bit differently than Bitcoin. But remember, Bitcoin hit its bear market low in November of 2022 or was it 2022? Yeah. And Ethereum hit it in June of 2022.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So Ethereum bottomed out first, right? And it started heading up before Bitcoin ever did. And and then it did a little sideways and everybody, oh, it's dead. It's dead. And, you know, I was on here saying, no, it's not dead. We're getting a bit of a pullback, but, you know, it's still going. So new all-time highs coming for Ethereum too, I believe. I don't see any reason why it won't hit at least 6,000. And, you know, we could be looking upwards of 10,000 or more potentially, depending on how this continues to get going.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So yeah, hopefully people didn't sell. Last cycle. Yeah, I thought it was going to be 10,000 last cycles. It's not an aggressive target for me. So what else are you watching here as Bitcoin kind of consolidates? Yeah, so, you know, again, I've been talking a lot about ALTS and how they look, you know, they were looking really good and we've had a lot of good movement with it. So I've got three, I don't usually look look at these but I wanted to bring up milania here
Starting point is 00:35:27 Because uh those that were in the uh, the academy in the uh, twc straight academy yesterday. Um Andrew one of our head traders man. He was talking about this all you know yesterday multiple times before the breakout happened So if anybody you know those who had actually listened to him and bought that breakout I mean this morning you were up almost 50% so far. And I believe we've got higher. I believe, you know, we've got at least a 30 cent target, potentially 34 cents or more coming out of it. So I think we've still got some upside overall.
Starting point is 00:35:59 We may see a bit of a pullback here first, maybe down to 25 cents or something like that. And then, you know, get that further move up. But this, you know, again, I teach a lot of things that most people don't actually even, I guess they don't know. But like when you've got these pivots here and you get this really aggressive movement up through the, you know, the R1 into the R2
Starting point is 00:36:21 and even, you know, especially in the R3. I mean, that's a recipe for it to take it all the way through the R5. And since these are the weekly pivots, that would suggest a potential breakout through 34.5, maybe 35 cents before the end of the week, before Sunday, the end of Sunday. I'm just looking at your Bitcoin chart.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I think I didn't realize we were talking about. Oh, I'm sorry. Jeez, oh, yes. Yeah. Let me see here. Can you didn't realize we oh, I'm sorry. Geez. Oh, yes. Yeah Let me see here. Can you see that now? Yep. I see it Dang it. Yeah this uh when i'm on live stream with this particular computer this uh Browser makes me have to hit that button that says change it to the other one. Sorry about that But yeah, so this is what we're looking at here
Starting point is 00:37:01 So again, he mentioned it, you know, coming up here before we got the breakout and it's basically up almost 50% right there since yesterday. So, you know, these guys are great that work with me there, putting out a lot of trades throughout the day in analysis. But again, you know, this aggressive movement here where you're running up through the R1 and the R2 pivot like this,
Starting point is 00:37:24 that almost exclusively we'll see price, you know, end up rallying through the R1 and the R2 pivot like this, that almost exclusively will see price, you know, end up rallying through the R5. So that's really set up great there. I love it. And this is just the beginning here. You know, this would be the low down here. And so you've got a one and a two, you know, and a three, four, five.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So basically you're looking for like a one up here. You'll get a two on that pullback. And then you're definitely gonna wanna be long for that next move up as well So that's milania there Got this MIR AI USDT here Making this great. This is the kind of breakout that I like to see
Starting point is 00:38:01 When we're coming through you get a spike of volume You know locally and you're getting a large candle spread through it. And so it looks like that low is probably in here. Let me see here pushing up here we hit the amazing we got this one in this too. So three we hit that looks like we might get a pullback down here to around zero 00644 so basically a retest of this descending resistance as support and if we can see a rally up off that uh we should be looking up here around 0.0085 at least as the next move up um so a lot of these i think were uh in these third waves and pulling back into the fourth wave so we'll have like one more push up and then we'll have a decent pullback.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And then you wanna be in on those decent pullbacks for a lot of these alts, because then that next one will be, that next much bigger move up that wave three. So yeah, again, right here, M-I-R-A-I-U-S-D-T. I like the breakout. Looks like we've got further upside here as well. Again, aggressively moving through the pivots here.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So, initial target would be that, you know, 875 area, but we could potentially, because of this aggressive movement here, a good chance we could see it run all the way up here through, I guess it's about 0.01045 there on that. And then we've got echo USDT here. Echo, echo, echo. This one appears to be, I think, five waves done here. And so then we've got three waves, and then it looks like ABC three waves here. So we want to get a breakout here above 0.024.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And that'll set up then a move here, minim up here to point zero five four four four now again using pivots um What I love to see is if we're in a third wave and it targets that r1 pivot That fourth wave is going to be a pullback to that pivot And then you're going to get your fifth wave move up and then when you um, You know that gives you five waves up. so that's one and then on your two back You're gonna pull back usually to the pivot again before heading up. So, you know, I'm liking the setup here It's got a lot of potential run on this
Starting point is 00:40:14 Not ones that I usually look at you know, these are not coins that I usually you know would look at or whatever but I figured hey, they've got some good movement here with these With these so why not show them and talk about them, but there's a lot. There's a lot of a Lot of opportunity out there with trading guys, and you know there's been as you can see we've had good moves up already You know you got to get over whatever PTSD you might have from alts being down and really start looking at the structure what's going on here because it seems like they're they're likely bottomed. And we've got a lot of further movement up here. So we just want to see that that progression and you know, you're
Starting point is 00:40:54 gonna make a lot of money with if you're paying attention. Yeah, I think also looking pretty good. I'm gonna regret saying that I'm sure. are looking pretty good. I'm gonna regret saying that I'm sure. Yeah, I said pretty good. I wasn't like all season and here we go. The moon or any of those fun things. But yeah, you know, what do you do? So yeah, I mean, I'm assuming generally, you think we have bullish sentiment across the board. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not thinking, think we have bullish sentiment across the board. Yeah. I think the markets are looking really good.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Generally speaking, tech is still, even in stocks, tech is still out there doing its thing. There's not a whole lot not to like really with what's going on with the markets right now. So, I do think we continue up higher overall. I don't think the tops, whether it be in stocks or crypto or anything, or even in yet. Yeah, so. Yeah, awesome.
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