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A look at the reaction coming out of Russia,
as you've been talking a lot about what's happening
in Ukraine and was just addressing
some of the possible future questions
that Canada could be facing.
But if we look at Russia and you've been following
what sort of narratives are unfolding, what is the reaction coming out of Russia?
To the to the mineral deal also the fallout from what happened in the Oval Office yesterday with these two
Leaders coming to lagerheads. What what is the reaction being in Russia?
Well, it's it's I think I could express it as barely concealed glee the
Story about the Oval Office meeting has been making headlines.
There have been carefully edited versions of it that have been shown on Russian national
television, essentially suggesting that Zelensky tried to dictate terms for an agreement to
Trump and that he got his hat handed
to him. And for the most part this has been sort of a shared messaging, if you
will, between the ways that the White House is presenting the meeting and the
way that the Russian press is presenting it as well. Now in part this comes at an
opportune moment as well because when Putin made the offer to Trump to say well, maybe we should have any
We should have some talks about a minerals deal that caused a fair amount of division
Especially amongst nationalists who even though they are pro-war have a problem with working with the United States and bear in mind
Putin has been talking about the United States as a
Civilizational enemy to Russia for years now and so walking back that rhetoric and trying to make a
pragmatic kind of deal with the Trump administration is politically risky. So
being able to highlight this blow-up in the Oval Office has taken some of the
heat off of the Kremlin for floating that notion
of a minerals deal with the White House and also now make it more politically palatable
actually for domestic audiences within Russia.
We're at the end of our conversation, but I want to put one last question to you that
sort of wider field question, what happens next?
And if you could both just keep your answers to about a minute because we are out of time.
But it seems important to just ask how the Trump presidency is affecting America's role
on the global stage, particularly considering some of what we saw yesterday in the Oval
Office.
Is this going to have permanent ramifications for the United States and their relationships
with what have been up until now important allies?
Anne I'll come to you first.
Thank you.
I would say that we're seeing a lot of unpredictability and a new style of diplomacy, a style of diplomacy
not everybody will be comfortable with, but a style of diplomacy and economic frameworks
and political frameworks that leaders need to prepare
for in engaging in discussions with the White House. And you know we saw
President Macron and Keir Stammer from the UK go over this week and take a
different approach and largely that approach worked. The approach that the
King of Jordan, King Hussein took, worked as well. You know, President Macron grabbed Donald Trump's arm and said, dear Donald, yes, no,
but we did do this and we did do this.
Keir Stammer brought across an invitation for Donald Trump to come and be the guest
at King Charles III's at Buckingham Palace and to be received there.
He loves kings and queens.
This went down enormously well.
So it is transactional.
And we have to acknowledge that we're living in a fragmented world.
The rules-based order is one that's going to have to be fought for,
but you have to come with something in your back pocket
in order to get even a little bit of a door opening on that front.
LW – Paul, would you like to add to that?
I think that the world is watching what the American public and the opposition party,
the Democrats in the United States, how they're going to respond to this.
There is a grave amount of concern about what this means for the future of the United States,
especially given that nobody, I think, really seriously thought anybody would want to see Donald Trump back in power
after the first term and two impeachments.
But beyond this uncertainty now about what this means, there is also an active ongoing
effort to