The World This Hour - The World This Hour for 2025/05/11 at 07:00 EDT

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

The World This Hour for 2025/05/11 at 07:00 EDT

The claims period for two classes in the First Nations Child and Family Services and Jordan's Principal Settlement is now open. First Nations children who were removed from their homes on reserve between April 1st, 1991 and March 31st, 2022, and their caregiving parents and caregiving grandparents can now submit a claim for compensation. There are free supports to help you fill out your form, and mental health and wellness supports if you need them. Learn more and submit your claim at FNchildclaims.ca And they had to admit to the scandal and they had to bring justice. Now how that affects Pope Leo XIV is we looked at the trajectory taken by Pope Francis where he has set up in his pontificate

commissions. He has a record of no tolerance for this kind of behavior. And interestingly enough, Leo XIV has come under fire from several groups when he was prior of his particular region of the Augustinians in Chicago for not paying enough attention to the movement of one priest who was suspected of child abuse to a home near a school. He also has come under fire for some of the activities of a few priests in the Archdiocese of Chicleo in Peru. But I was reading a report of a sociologist from Mexico saying that Prevost, as a bishop, was one of the most outspoken and one of the most active in trying to bring justice in these cases where it was possible. The laws of Peru had

certain limitations in terms of prosecutions, but evidently according to Rodolfo Soriano Núñez, Evidently, according to Rodolfo Soriano Nunez, the sociologist who knows this area quite well, Pope Leo, as Archbishop, was very much concerned about this issue and was moving on it. That is to say, this is a big church and some jurisdictions are much better at bringing justice where justice is needed than others. But I think the Church over the last 20 years has grown, has been shocked, has been shamed, and is now moving to bring justice to those victims. Just a horrible, terrible, tragic chapter in the history of the Church. Father Diaz, I'd like to allow you to also speak to Robert's question. Yeah, first, I would agree with Mark that this has, it looks different in different places

because of the civil law, because of the bishop, but I do think this remains an open and painful wound in the church that has this issue. And a lot of work still needs to be done. Francis did enact certain legislation, sort of a zero tolerance legislation. He made bishops more accountable to one another. But it remains problematic. Francis himself, I think it's a weakness in his papacy. Addressing this issue was a weakness in his papacy. But I do think what he, what Francis thought was the root sin, if we use that language, was

what he called clericalism. And this remains a problem in the Church. And clericalism is a certain sense that the priest or the bishop is not accountable to anyone, or that there's not transparency in the dealings of the Church. Clericalism is based on rigid hierarchy, and when power is always in the hands of the same people. Francis's remedy to this is synodality, where power is shared, where hierarchy turns to communion, where people are accountable to one another. But this takes not just a structural change, but a cultural change in the church. This is the type of thing that this is a real implication of synodality when Francis and now Leo speak about synodality. This would be a

real implication because there's a lot of work left to be done. Thank you Father Dias and Mark. Robert that's such an important question and it brings us to the end of this conversation about Pope Leo and the future of the Catholic Church. Father, Dias and Mark, thank you so much for this time with you and for covering such a vast landscape of questions. Thank you for having us. It's been delightful and challenging.