The Worst Idea Of All Time - 15: Books

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Guy faces down the duration of this movie and Tim reveals his fear of the Kate Bush classic Wuthering Heights. The boys discover writer/director Mattress has likely never set foot inside a gosh darn cafe in his dang life and we say hello to flesh world. Also Timbo and The Flash get contacted by celebrated Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda WHO IS IN THIS MOVIE! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

we just have a good rhythm together you know he sort of feels me out i feel him out and uh we go for it welcome to the worst idea of all time season 4 episode 15 i want to cut my head off hiya tim how are you bad oh that's a shame what could have possibly brought on this lousy mood I don't even I if it's this is our show so we

get to decide whatever the fuck we want to do and the rules are that we've got to watch the movie but the rule is not that we have to talk about the movie so I I don't want to talk about the movie I'm done with it I'm not I don't want to talk about it uh well don't want to talk about the movie i'm done with it i'm not i don't want to talk about it uh well do you want to talk about the viewing experience you've had so for context uh once again we're apart i'm in uh los angeles california tim uh presumably graylin

sort of a midday screening if my understanding of time is correct sort of yeah yeah yeah it's midday now sort of yeah it broke up the middle of your day um how about you run me through it how did what was your viewing experience sorry to interrupt you what's interesting well it's just interesting we're both experimenting with different times to watch the movie, and it seems to me, Tim, that this movie is consistently bad across most times during the day. And I'd say this is probably true for most, not just films, but bits of art, wherein, you know, because in terms of mood and thought processes,

as a person, you can be quite different late at night from how you are in the morning uh and you'd think that there'd be some i mean or do you mean one can be yeah right one can be uh you'd think there'd be some sort of carryover of that where you know you could watch a movie in a certain mood and uh find it enjoyable but it's you know this wily film is proving it's very difficult to pin down a time whereby you know this infuriating experience suddenly becomes enjoyable i watched it first thing this morning um i have recently traveled from Bangalore, India to Los Angeles, America, and Jetlag had me up at Sparrows this morning, 6.15, and I knew I had the podcast hanging over me today. So I thought, what better way to kick things off and use this time than with a screening?

And it was bad. I'm not not gonna lie to you tim i didn't enjoy it the thing is yeah tell me what the thing is it's a really long movie yeah and and we've done this dance haven't we just to fill everyone in on the timeline of how things have transpired we've only just so when we're recording this we've only just announced uh to the public that we're doing this and the people who are very familiar with the project are expressing a lot of concern and one note that keeps coming back is were you guys aware that this movie is actually slightly longer than the second one which i confess i did not know i knew that they were in the same family in terms of length or runtime um yeah but this doesn't just seem to be longer by minutes this movie when you're watching it seems to last for um all of linear time yeah have you just forgotten

though do you think the feeling of when we were watching sex in the city 2 uh i have i have no axe to grind against Sex and the City 2 at this point in time, Tim. I feel like I whittled the blade of that axe all the way down to the wood, to the handle. It was just a sort of stick. I think I have forgotten. But I mean, when you're in the middle of it, you know, like when Carrie and Big are on the phone and she's talking him down when he's freaking out the night of the wedding.

Yeah. I was just so like inconsolable in the knowledge. It's like because I was like in my head. I was like, there was actually a pretty good speech. And I've thought that before. I thought Carrie does a good job of talking them down from the ledge there. She does. But there's just so much to go through for the same-

I'm yawning just thinking about it. Just that moment. What is the same outcome as if they just managed to get married in the first place? What is it about this particular viewing? Just fucking knocked my socks off in a bad way like and whatever the negative version of that is it was astounding strapped your socks i feel taped your socks down i fucked with my socks man in a big way yeah uh my viewing experience if i may yeah uh my viewing experience if i may just to bloody fill the time in fill in the seconds i actually i had to get a bit creative because i recently uh as you know smashed my cell phone

um uh oh well probably actually only as guy knows this was during till death to us blart which is our eternal podcast which we do with the mackerel brothers look there's no getting around it we do this to ourselves there's no one else to blame um but anyway i broke my phone watching paul blart more cop 2 which is a funny sentence i dropped it um while while watching it on the can i dropped it from it was shaking with laughter yeah that would have been surely it it dropped like this is where i can't get over modern phones i've got a a pretty nude samsung dropped it from a height of less than a meter onto um onto a wooden floor and it has a case on it and it still smashed the screen just like fuck for real really and i've got um i didn't

realize but i've been paying for insurance on this fucker through my tele communications provider and it still cost me 200 bucks on top of the insurance just to get the screen fixed it's bloody bullshit anyway so what's happened is i've had a loan fight hey tim i didn't can i just say i really enjoyed your gripes with the state of technology and because of fixing smart phones this is going somewhere so i've had a i've had a loan phone while that one's been in the shop and i didn't really have to load any apps onto it because it's like i'll get the other one back but what i the one thing i do desperately need to make sure i have on me at all times is sex in the city so i loaded that onto the phone and um i got our times wrong for the record today so i ended up watching a lot of it like on the bus on the way out there

and then in an uber and it was quite a juggling act to do the ubering because i sort of had to like order it on the old phone at the last minute just before i factory reset it to do the ubering because i sort of had to like order it on the old phone at the last minute just before i factory reset it to get the new phone are you embarrassed when you're watching yes yeah i get embarrassed too i turn the screen brightness down specifically so other people can't see it it's so stupid like who cares you know do you if you watch other if you watch other bad content on your uh you know phone or a device in public do you hide that if you're reading a bad book do you hide the cover oh boy if i'm reading a book in public i will let everyone know about it it doesn't matter what the book i'll just be like like look at me i'm reading yeah that's true you treat books like microphones when you're out on

the street as soon as you're carrying one you're like that's right everybody watch it out excuse me is this door wide enough for my intellect to fit through because it is a wide berth I've recently gotten back into books but I'm Kindle through and through I just, I read on my tablet There's a delightful anonymity Books are so much better Yeah

Yeah, exactly, it's just like could be anything, could be Fifty Shades of Grey or, you know, a physics textbook Probably not a physics textbook, though. Any book is better than Sex and the City, though. Also probably not Fifty Shades of Grey. Oh, why not? And that is untrue, Tim.

There are books that are worse than Sex and the City. Name two. Sex and the City, the movie, the book, and and adapted text there's no way that's real there's no way i feel like all movies get turned into books now and vice versa yeah true yeah that's vice versa every they've run out of ideas in hollywood so every single uh book that is written becomes a film and every film that is written that is successful does retroactively become a book everything's just circulating um that's bullshit man because some things lend themselves to a specific medium you know oh yeah but you know anything can be done well in a new medium

no not true there's some book and don't ask me to name one. For the love of God, don't ask me to name one. But there's some books that just should be left as books. Even novels, like fiction books. Just leave it out. There's no need to make it a film. Everything can be filmed and edited and put on a screen now, Tim. What is your fucking beef with the advancement of technology?

I don't want to labor through a book. It's humiliating. Anytime I see someone reading a book in public, I smash it out of their hands and I put a smartphone in their hands and I go, get it to fucking gather. Wouldn't it be funny to buy a ton of cheap Android tablets, just to have a stash of them in your pack and walk around anyone who's reading a book to do it sort your fucking life out just throw the book away and give them a tablet i'm telling you this is what i do what are you fucking doing it's 2018 you

time traveling son of a bitch get this in you there's youtube now you crazy cook tim if people didn't read books then they wouldn't be able to come up with such inspiring sentences as with my mind prenuptially preoccupied i became delinquent with my library books so now the tragic love stories of wuthering heights and love story were going to cost me more than a few tears did you memorize it or did you write it down this week carrie bradshaw 2008 you'll never know there is still my most my most hated line in the film uh not my most hated moment but definitely my most hated line it's it's what gets me it is an annoying line because it's like needlessly wordy which can be fun if deployed correctly, but it's not in this instance. Where she says, the tragic love stories of Wuthering Heights and Love Story.

There are so many romance novels that don't involve you repeating the same two words. Yes, exactly. It's madness. You got it, man words? Yes. Exactly. It's madness. You got it, man. It is, yeah. Of all the books in all the world that you could have picked, and I know that you want to pick famous ones, but fuck me, pick something else that's not a love story.

You've just said it. I'm glad they say Wuthering Heights, though. Don't you love that song by Kate Bush? It freaks me out we've talked about this before it terrifies me yeah I think you are you the person who specifically is really it scares the shit out of me it's the only piece of music Who is this? Is that a ghost? It's Kathy. I come home. There we go. I'm so cold. Do you know that the New Zealand opera singer Hayley Westenra performed a cover of that song? That's right.

Really? On one of her albums that mum always used to listen to. I knew that version before the Kate Bush version. How's her version? It's terrible. I was glad to hear the Kate Bush version. I was glad to hear dirty it butch i was glad to hear you know dirty it up muddy it up a bit have a bit of fun with it yeah hayley's so prim and proper

yes she is new zealand songbird hayley west i reckon she's living off of the probably hundreds of thousands she earned from her successful singing career man i don't know about that i heard this, this is vicious New Zealand rumor mill shit, but I heard that album that she, the first album she put out, like almost bankrupted the family. Oh. Just doing all the, you know,

all the stuff around that production. Yeah, I hate to hear that. Yeah, you do, man. You absolutely do. As much as I might not be a fan of Hayley Weston's music, I wish no ill fate or harm to her or her career for that matter she's undeniably got a beautiful voice i need to dabble in um other kate bush music i think because i'm not very familiar with her other back catalog

uh which is to say i don't know her other songs there's at least one that's quite famous isn't there there's at least one other big big old hit i'm looking it up you can hear me click clacking away um i don't know what it is withering heights is all that comes up on the first page i think she's running up that hill how's that if i could make a deal with god be running up that hill it's a good song placebo covered it i think as well anyway look this is all uh well and good but i really want to kick around in the the dirt with you buddy no um no i don't know just stay in here with me. Tell me your shining light. I don't... Oh, it was the woman who serves the wine when Carrie and Miranda are having their Valentine's Day dinner together.

Do you know what? I'm glad you chose her. She's a bit of an unsung hero of the film, isn't she? That scene doesn't make a lot of logical sense. I'll never... It's sort of emerging to me as the sandwich sandwich because it's quite a pointed thing. There's quite a lot of elaborate setup with regards to the number of balloons.

But this is one of the more emotionally tense and serious scenes. What was the sandwich debate all again that we had? It was someone falls off a camel. Oh, that's right. Charlotte falls off a camel and oh she fought that's right charlotte falls off the camel she says she's just having a little sand sand yeah yeah and that's only yeah that's right god we spent a long time discussing whether that qualifies as a joke well yeah but like the guy who's the real fucking idiot the person who made the movie wrote the script and got paid handsomely and moved

on with their life to another project well these two certainly it's it's never not been us tim uh but like the number of balloons it just feels like you know, it's like Chekhov's gun that never goes off. Pikelet King's balloons. What do you want to have happen to the balloons? Do you want them all to start popping? I want them in an out-and-out comedy scene. Or I don't really want them at all like it's yeah that's fair because she doesn't get completely entangled by them but she does get mildly slowed down as she grabs her but not in a funny way or even in a way that adds to the moment you're just like jeez that's a lot of

balloons um but i'm glad you singled out the uh waitress because i think that she um you know she week in week out she she does what she can for the for the cast and crew there's a lot of great a lot of great wait staff in this film um the other one of course the uh waitress who comes over to serve charlotte um just before her water breaks because she sees Mr. Big and has to exit stage left. What even happened to Snagglepuss? I didn't see him anymore, did I? You could say I'm trapped in a cage. Enraged, even.

I still see him when I look him up on YouTube after I've smoked an unholy amount of weed. Are you a big Snagglepuss guy? i've never talked to you about snaggle time to time yeah i uh i get down with the puss um but i want to say well well i think that the waitress brings a lot of uh consistency and in her performance week in week out i um i kind of found chris knoweth as mr big to be all over the shop this week. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I didn't know if it was a character decision

or something that was going on off camera with Chris, but right from the outset, when they're looking around that first apartment and he says, Carrie looks at the tiny closet and she says, oh, now i can see what the divorce was about and mr big says uh i can build you a better closet but the way he delivered it this week the words like crawled out of his mouth you know very patchy he's like i can build it's like yeah i can build you a better place like doing's like doing a Sly Stallone sort of thing.

And then just by turn, he was running hot and cold. I got the feeling he might have been on drugs or something, but he did not have his shit together. Not at all. Big's never been a consistent knock it out of the park kind of actor though yeah but he's sort of he's uh he's flown by he's flown under the radar the last couple of weeks i think um right and he just he i was really i was all over him like white on rice and uh i just you know found him to be really up and down i agree with you something that I noticed this watch as well is at the start of the film,

there's an introduction sequence, a montage, as the sort of credits are rolling up with Carrie explaining who everyone is and where they're at. And it sort of shows you where they got to at the end of the TV series. And that montage, beyond anything else else just begs the question, why does this movie exist? Cause everyone's been given a pretty good end point. Oh,

and Carrie's going through listing all of that. She's like, look, I got Mr. Big in the end after all the turmoil and years of back and forward. Um, Charlotte, finally,

uh, finally, she traveled to China and back to get her child and her and Harry are very happy with their family. And Miranda, what did she say? She was into tough love, but now she's stuck with Steve and they had a baby and

there they live, figuring it out. And Samantha, well, she moved to Los Angeles to pursue her next career goal. And it's like, okay, cool. Every single time. Sorry, just quickly. Every single time with that Samantha bit, it's always to me Darwin and the wild thornberries. And Samantha?

Well, she found us. She found us. That's exactly right. It kills me every week. But, yeah, and it's just like i got to the end of it this this time and i was like yeah yeah i guess we kind of fucking nailed it in the tv show then guys i guess there's no reason for any of us to be here huh i guess we're pretty cool well yeah they did such a good job of making these characters get to the end of their arc and then i think that's the annoying

thing about these two films is like i think because they got everyone to a pretty good satisfying place at the end of the tv show i assume i didn't watch it but based on the the wrap-up the uh previously on sex in the city uh they have to break everything and then repair it just for no point to give you a movie. Absolutely. Really well put. It is so infuriating to watch two and a half hours of film and for the net result to be like, you know, it's nothing. We come back literally to step zero where we started.

Yeah. So little has changed. Having a good time. Like, while, yes, Charlotte physically gives, you know, like creates a person and gives birth to another person, emotionally she shows or is given no development. Nah. Like- She had a family and now she's got a family with one more baby girl it's it's crazy it's like all of them go through some sort of large life event you know like charlotte i know so miranda is rocked by steve cheating on her

um which by the way the scene in which he confesses to that is not just today, I think, but in general, some of the best acting in the entire film. And I think... That fucking blows my mind that you say that. I've never liked it. I think he's so like... I guess it's good acting, but the groveling thing, the pound pooch looking up at his eyes with his head tilted down. That's's Hollywood I don't think it's good acting though I don't think it's like very intelligent acting it's just so cartoonish it's really like on hands and knees it sells it for me and I think that's why I'm always like largely or mostly

invested as much as I can be in Miranda andve's story um but you know like there's no net change in their relationship and then uh big and like carrie they've already been through every variation of breaking up and getting back together so like the emotional impact that that can have on her even if it's a big public jilting is, you know, it's, it's minimized. Like it's, it's the law of diminishing returns. Like it will never rock her the same way it did the first or the second time. Cause it's like,

she's been through it before. Yeah, I guess so. This is quite a, you have to say this is a bit of a different thing though. Oh, the stakes are quite different. But in the outcome,

no, like it's, it turns out exactly the same. And then, um, Samantha just goes, you know, just goes back to being Samantha. It's such a long-winded way. And then for them to have the hubris to do it all again

for a second movie as well. But they break it and then rebuild it. And we're like, okay, cool. I guess you put it back together rebuild it and we're like okay cool i guess you put it back together and then they're like oh but wait another movie it's like well hold on what what are you doing this time it's like well we're just going to break it and put it back together again it's like if you think if you think of yeah if you think of the series as a finished artwork the first the like it could be a sculpture say the first movie is like oh we can make this better and they pull it all apart and then put it back together again and it looks a bit wonky and you're

like oh maybe we shouldn't have done that and then it's like that guy did what was that um did you see that news story this was about 10 years ago of a guy who was trying to repair the bit of renaissance uh and he used the right, the wrong kind of like acetate or whatever, and wiped the paint off of this beautiful, like Fresno painting. And then he drew the ice. The plot of bean disaster movie.

Possibly, but this happened in real life. This was a real thing. I remember cause I was working in, in, uh, on the radio at the time because i i was working in in uh on the radio at the time and it was one of those classic like you know odd news stories that you gravitate towards that you're just so hungry for one of those fuckers coming out that's got legs when you're on the radio and it went like legit the picture itself of this guy trying to repair the

damage he did to this priceless historic artwork was sensational it was like someone with ballpoint pen trying to like recreate the eyes um well you know it's of one of those that is exactly the process i think that um this has gone through this film like to me they have finished something which is whole and complete and you know and beautiful exactly and then uh twice they've sort of they just couldn't resist i mean and actually what better analogy than you and i going back to the honeypot, you know? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like self-reflection, but you're right. Yeah, there's no better time for it. Yeah.

All right, let's talk about that for a bit, Guy, just briefly. Bad idea? What, of us going back to the honeypot? Season four, bad idea. Oh, right. the honeypot season four season four bad idea uh right i mean right now i think i can feel that you are in the you feel the weight of what we're doing uh hang heavy around your neck and you think it's a bad idea when i watched it this morning i felt it was a bad idea but i feel like we're getting somewhere today as unpleasant as the means of it might be so i think uh not necessarily and i at this point

i'd like to say to you tim uh that i stumbled into something this this week which could be of interest to you and the the wider sex in the city uh specifically movie universe. And that might be, I don't know, it falls under the umbrella of the origins of Coffee Guy and perhaps an understanding as to why Coffee Guy might appear as he does in Sex and the City 2. Give me this. So when Carrie is interviewing St. Louis. I need this. Whatever you're about to say i need this i need backstory i need law well i need coffee guy so what do we know about coffee guy

coffee guy he needs loves the job he needs to drink a lot of coffee very quickly uh and it needs to be seen you know it's it's done in a in a public in a showboating sort of way which is like hey look hey look everyone this guy's in a cafe hey look look at me yeah don't look at me though and here i go in the in the world of the movie making business you know it's sort of like the movie saying hey look at this it's a guy he's in a cafe he's drinking coffee we know how cafes work we know exactly what happens in cafes people drink coffee how quickly it doesn't matter how quickly they drink coffee that's what they do in cafes in the interview process when carrie's interviewing saint louise there is a man in the background of frame at the the starbucks or the coffee shop uh who's sitting at a table by himself, and he shows up on screen no less than 12 times.

How many sips of coffee do you think this is? What do you mean? He gets given, you know how coffee goes in three frames? They keep going, sure, they keep going back to a shot where he's like over the shoulder of St. Louis. It'd be listed as a featured extra in the film, you know, if what I see has anything to go by. So we see him 12 times.

How many sips of coffee do you think this guy takes? You tell me. I was going to take a guess, but now I'm scared. No, take a guess. Four? Zero.

Twelve? Zero. So? Zero. This is anti-coffee guy. We don't see him drinking coffee. We're lucky even to see this guy nibbling at a croissant. So what I think has happened is Mattress Pikelet King has seen this. He's borne the brunt of the feedback from the Java community. They've said said what in

fuck's name was that what sort of representation is that for coffee drinkers that's not how people are in cafes you know do you even know what people do in cafes mattress have you ever been to a cafe calling mattress pike like his first name is very funny to me by the way excuse me mattress listen here he goes yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, yeah, yeah. I know what happens in cafes. I know how it goes. And so he...

Do you think Mattress Pikeway King has never been in a cafe before he made the movies? Absolutely. And I think... And he's just kind of taking a guess. He's overcorrected. So in Sex and the City 2, we go from some guy lounging around in a coffee shop

who's just barely getting by on the crumbs or croissant, and everyone said, what in fuck's name was that? And he's gone, okay, you want to see how it is in cafes? I'll show you how it is in cafes. Blammo. Fucking take that, critics. Take that, Robert E Ebert Here's your copy Robert Ebert, brother of Roger

And then so he's put this into Sex and the City 2 And everyone's going Well that's not it either Like if there's any reason For Sex and the city 3 to exist it's for him to have another bite of the apple to try and figure out what happens in a cafe try and represent coffee culture we should um you and i should make a short film we've been in cafes before we should make a short film that is called we've been in there's no dialogue it's called we've been in cafes before and it's just us like um you get the

hubbub so that's kind of background sound and it's just shots of what we feel called a hubbub really just that little little uh well now i don't want to say it again for fear of being mocked what's another word for it just a little just say hubbub or as you were saying that's just how i've always seen it i've seen it so rarely this is not hubbub what is it hubbub even that's not quite it but you're you're in the neighborhood you say it you are the mattress pikelet king of pronouncing hubbub hubbub it's definitely not hubbub there's a weird emphasis you put the emphasis there hubbub it's like shalom or something it's so weird hubbub anyhow talk to me um please tweet us through with your thoughts on this hubbub debate as well or hubbub debate um i don't even

know how you would written down communicate which side you're on but we'd love to hear from you uh guy mont or tim underscore bat uh fuck i don't know what was i talking about we're gonna make a short film guy and it's a display a showcase of what it's like to be in a real cafe short film uh beautifully shot maybe even black and white and uh yeah we're just going to showcase the finer parts of cafe culture. That sounds fantastic to me. We'll find out Mattress's address. We'll send it straight to him. Web or flesh world, as you like to say.

The meat space. That's an established term, by the way. I didn't make that up. Is that true? The meat spaces. Yeah, flesh world's, I think, me fucking up trying to remember the meat space. It's like the online world or the meat spaces yeah flesh world's i think me fucking up trying to remember the meat space the meat it's like you know the online world or the meat space i love it uh it's goody what was your shining light did we cover that yet no we haven't we haven't spoken about my

um it's a little moment it's at the rehearsal dinner um when samantha's giving her speech and uh she says uh you know it is tradition for the maid of honor to um you know embarrassing stories about the bride and uh everyone sort of you know is on tenterhooks they're leaning in like and then samantha with perfect timing says uh but lucky for like i lucky for her we don't kiss and tell or you know yeah words to that effect and as she does so uh miranda does sort of a pantomime performance of wiping sweat from her brow and uh there's a very cute little few as in like what a relief i'm gonna bring i've got the movie in front of me i'm gonna bring that moment up so i can watch it um and it's just nice it's it's not i feel like i don't think it

was scripted i think that uh cynthia nixon was feeling that particular scene and it was just a good little ad-lib that really helps build out the world of the movie and the relationship between the four central characters. That's cute. That's a good little moment you've picked there, Guy. Good on you. You're saying it in such glowing terms as if you actually enjoyed the watch this week that's

how good your shining light was that's how good your performance was in delivering the shining light you know it was fucking shit just because i'm trying to find the time code of the moment you've described stanford blanche man i do not get what he's going for in this movie like that phone call that he has with carrie which got edited out of the original version i was watching from neon in new zealand didn't make the cut for that streaming service um this bullshit man he's phoning it in with that phone call oh there it was it's at 41 36 in the version we've got oh for anyone playing along at home you fucking weirdo tim i'm so glad that it's on the record yeah yeah well i've made a decision that uh for some of the episode like pitches i'm just gonna have um uh what is it called like a snapshot from the movie like a screen grab so that you can see

kind of a moment we're talking about won't do it for all of them but for for some of them that's very nice um so it's the art it's the artwork of this episode i agree with your observation re stanford um and by turn i know this is kind of lazy and uh generic of me to to lump uh stanford and anthony together i mean this is essentially the origins of their love story um but i'm going to love anthony you know it's it's a little bit easier for him because he's a more of a sort of uh loud and flamboyant character but it felt like this week all of his scenes all of his lines were delivered with sort of you know a real flourish like all of his lines with sort of, you know, a real flourish. Like all of his lines are sort of, he's quite exacerbated and his eyebrows are really high. And he's like, it's like stuffing a cream puff through a keyhole,

you know, and he stamps off. He's a fun character. Yeah, he's a very fun character. You know, or when he observes Samantha's put on weight and he goes, what's with the guts? And everyone looks at him like, mother of God, what's with the gut? And everyone goes, you can't say that. And then he goes, well, with the guts? And everyone looks at him like, mother of God, what's with the guts? And everyone goes, you can't say that. And then he goes, well, she's eating something out there.

Yeah. Which is not, because every time I hear him say that, I get like it's such a loaded line. I'm like, that is something that your mother said when you were growing up. Like you are channeling your mother right now. And I love it. Yeah, we have fun. fun feels like a real all of the kind of italian sicilian characters like new york italian characters that i've seen in tv

and movies they you know it's it's it's quintessential man i've seen that that character i've seen that archetype it's great and you got that that little line from your mother who's always concerned about making sure everyone's fed. It's great. It's just a... Yeah, for all the shit that Stanford's given us this week or this watch rather, I'm all about Anthony.

That's nice. God bless. I'd also like to do the segment that you've introduced, Tim, called Pot's Quiz., called Pot's Quiz. Pot's Quiz, bitch. Pot's Quiz. Now, as well you know, Tim, after Carrie disgustingly utters the line...

Colours outside the lines. But when he... Yeah, yeah. But when he does, he never colours outside the lines. What does she say? Well, they're really pressing her to discuss how many times her and Big have sexual intercourse.

I know the context. But what's the object of the movie? Because it makes me hurl. I'm bringing the audience with us, mate. They haven't seen the movie 15 times. No, but we've talked about the line at least 15 times already. So she says, i will say this when big and when big colors when big colors he really colors inside the line he really stays inside the line oh is that yeah maybe that's it yeah stays inside yeah fuck it's just anyway

and then so from that from that scene. Jizz everywhere, man. Just come on the ceiling. He goes to come back to the house. She goes to come back to the house and she gets back to the house and he's all fucking, you know, God knows what he's been doing. He's all barred up and, you know, flitting between being quite droopy and incredibly energetic in a terrifying way.

But as she and the camera move through the kitchen towards where Big is standing with his shirt dishevelled outside while the curtains blow in an absolute gale, and he keeps trying to tuck the top of his erection into his suit pants, there's a pot. Great bit of colour from you, Guy. There's a pot on the stove. Yeah. So as we move past the four ho four hobs i got your classic four hob scenario looks like electric uh on the back left hob there's a pot

and now look there is a chance that this is where the pot lives um but i've spent enough time in this kitchen now it's a nice kitchen i know that there is a storage area for this pot. It doesn't need to be on the hop, which suggests to me that Big's been cooking up something in that pot. He just got home. I want to find out what it is. No, he's obviously been home a while. No, he just got in the door.

He just got in the door. He just got in the door. She just got in the door. He's got the doors open. He's got a gale blown through the house. He's got a pantsplitting erection. Oh, okay. She comes home to him. I've got it backwards.

I thought Carrie was out on the balcony and he comes home. No, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, sorry. So what's the question? Well, it's the pot quiz, Tim. What's in the pot? This isn't the fucking segment.

I mean, this is great, but this is a new segment, mate. Don't say this is the segment that you've been doing. This is a different thing. This is exactly the same thing. We've been doing pot quiz for weeks. The whole point of the pop quiz was so that because we are not watching it side by side it is to keep each other honest to reference little details to make sure that we're actually tuning in on this movie every watch and and you

know eventually picking up all the nuance and minutiae of this movie but i'll tell you what's in the pot it's beef straganoff with a recipe that she garnered from magda from the old country who carrie yeah it's carrie's recipe yes well no it's magda's recipe but carrie made it that that means that the pot's been there and the stroganoff's been in that pot for the entire day which means that the stroganoff has probably gone bad no stroganoff is one of those things it's like a slow it's a slow uh it's a slow meal you know you're slow yeah you keep it you get you can keep it on the on the hob while you're eating. You can leave the beef straganoff on a low heat for upwards of 12, 14 hours.

Go out, go about your business. Come home, beautiful, beautiful beef straganoff. You don't leave the stove going for the whole day. Are you calling it straganoff? Straganoff. This is what makes it Magda's special family recipe mate you got to keep it on the um on the element for ages and you got to make sure it's also here's the secret guy you got to make sure it's unattended so you have to leave because a watch struggling never boils well you don't want

your struggle enough to boil in the first place but part of the recipe is uh the element of risk or danger. Yeah. Is that what you're telling me? It's like how people say danger is my middle name. The secret ingredient is potential burning down of the house. That's what makes it taste extra good. Well, it's nice to know. And it's nice to know that you've been paying attention to the film.

Here's a pop quiz, bitch, for you this episode, guy. What is the color of Miranda's bridesmaid's dress miranda it's navy or it's like a royal blue actually fuck nailed it without hesitation could i ask you another one because i wrote down to you um what is the gift that Smith gets Samantha for Christmas? For Christmas? I will. This is kind of a hard one because we see it very fleetingly as part of the sort of New Year's Eve montage section of the film. It's just kind of like one little shot that we stay in for a few seconds uh i i honestly i i know that my eyes have lingered on it before but i need i need you

to tell me i'm sorry it is that's okay it's all right it is a clock with does this ring any bells keep talking it's like a desk, but it's got two clocks. So it's got two time zones, which I assume one for LA and one for New York, one for each coast. So she can keep track of when she can call the gals. And it's a reasonable hour. That's very sweet. I mean, I've filled in the rest of it, but it's a dual desk clock.

Yeah, yeah. He's a thoughtful guy. I've got a question for you we should probably wrap up soon yep is um the fur is murder lady yes god she got me this week what sort of dog is she holding um i don't know if this because i don't know my dog breeds very well but is it like a bijon freeze like a fluffy white pooch no ah fuck do you want to do you want to know or do you know what i'm'm going to leave that unresolved. Can I have one more guess? Give me one more. I've forgotten what they're called,

but they're those dogs that look like little gentlemen, and they've got the little beards. What are they called? A schnauzer. Is it a schnauzer? No, it's not a schnauzer. Fuck. I'm going to leave that mystery unresolved,

and then next week your class assignment is to go out and come back and tell me. Okay, fair enough. That is a good question. Do you know the answer, like off the top of your head? I guess you have to or else you couldn't say I was wrong. Okay, that's good. Hey, also just a heads up that Lin-Manuel Miranda's in the film.

He just, in the meet space, he just tweeted us saying, oh, boys, you're going to see a lot of me. I move a couch. Almost embarrassed to say in 14 unprompted watches, didn't see the guy. I didn't. It's pretty, you would not guess that that guy is lin-manuel miranda unless lin-manuel says that's me and then you look and you're like oh yeah yeah so that's quite cool

or any it's a strong performance so convincing you know his work as a mover you'd have absolutely no idea what that guy is working on behind the scenes i was like that my initial reaction when he tweeted is like oh that's fucking classic sex in this oh okay i've got two things i want to say to wrap this up guy because one really made me mad i was like there's classic sex in the city isn't it you've got like um this incredible artistic talent a guy who wrote that um went on to write the most popular musical um you know, of the last probably 20 years in America. And because he's Puerto Rican,

they've relegated him to the furniture removal guy. Well, that's what I feel like every time I'm at a sports game, you know, and I don't get called onto the field. I'm like classic sports. You got the greatest fucking athlete of our generation sitting in the rafters definitely not even gonna you're not even gonna bring him down onto the field or the court or whatever you know yep definitely the same definitely the same the thing

um and and this will be the final point that i make when they go to the fucking auction carrie's line is um it was a rare event that brought all kinds of new york women together and you go in there and you're like you're fucking joking me carrie bradshaw everyone is a millionaire to set foot in the building are you joking me mate that is new york woman that is you decidedly true uh but to try and put a positive spin on that how great did the costume department do on the extras at that divorce auction everyone looks really good like they're in the right place you know um not a you know like every it paints a very loud and vivid picture of the specific types of people who are at the auction.

I agree with your point that Carrie lives in a, you know, in a bubble and a fantasy world, but, um, yeah, big props to costume for, uh,

for what they pulled off there. Also shout out to props, shout out to casting who deployed a british accent very well to uh enhance the fanciness of the situation the auctioneer is a brit and you're sort of like yeah forgot about that aren't we in good company hey there was something that i threw at you the other day i messaged you something i was listening to something on one of the first episodes. Oh, it was about Coffee Guy. Is that his name? Oh, yeah, that's right.

Who's credited as Elaine's friend. And then Elaine isn't in the credits of the film. That's right. So we, fuck, I forgot about that. We have got to put our spectacles on. And where's Wally, the shit out of Coffee Guy? We've run so long god damn it i'll put this to you in 48 minutes you're all good mate um mattress pike clip might have backdated the imdb

credits so that coffee guy is in the first one so he's like yeah i know about cafes right this makes perfect sense um you're a detective guy it's been great to talk to you it's been so fucking horrible watching the film today and i can't wait to do it all again real soon with you my friend man you are not in a good space see ya bye we just have a good rhythm together you know he sort of feels me out i feel him out and we go for it