The Worst Idea Of All Time - 19: Zaddies (w/ Ayo Edebiri)

Episode Date: February 25, 2019

Comedian Ayo Edebiri guests on this episode and predicts how the post-American implosion will play out regarding Walmart sofas and their owners. Ayo cracks the case on why Charlotte actually shits her pants, Brady is running in 2040 and the guys reveal they have just one listener: a staunch libertarian. Plus, the incredible career of musician Pink and another exciting edition of Inside The Lines.@ayoedebiri (Twitter) @ayoedebiri (Instagram) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he sort of feels me out, I feel him out, and we go for it. Hello and welcome along to another exciting episode of The Worst Idea of All Time, Season 4, Episode 19. I am Guy Montgomery, joined as always by my trusty Steve, Tim Batt. Kia ora. Kia Bass. Kia ora. Kia ora. And a very special guest this week. We are in the studio, a.k.a. on my Walmart couch in my apartment in Bushwick with Ayo Adebri. Ayo.

Hi, Guy. Hi, Tim. I quite like your couch. I think it's a good couch. You wouldn't have thought it's from Walmart, right? I was shocked. Yeah. I think it's a good couch. You wouldn't have thought it's from Walmart, right? I was shocked. Yeah. I was shocked.

$300. We bought it from the online catalog, and it folds out to be a bed. Okay, very nice. Yeah. Very nice. That's a great couch. Thank you. $300 is a lot to be spending at Walmart, though.

When you get to that price point, why wouldn't you go to Ikea or something? Drag him. Ikea is not necessarily superior to Walmart. I feel like that's quite an Antipodean sort of, because we're so starved for Ikea, we put it on this pedestal. Like it was national news in our country when Ikea was coming to New Zealand.

That hurts me. Walmart is fine. And also it's almost, I think, classic because it's of a different time now where it's going to be phased out by amazon there's something quaint about it yeah i feel like it's quite a nice kind of throwback brand when bernie sanders and uh aoc win in 2020 and we burn walmart to the fucking ground you're going to regret saying on record, Walmart is fine. I feel like actually it could be like a really nice spin.

Like you'll have something from before the great wars, you know, you'll have like an iconic piece of furniture in that way. I'll have to like put a false label on it because they'll be running around everyone's apartments, checking the furniture for allies and enemies. That's the first first thing that they'll do and you just have to be ready for it it's a powerful platform it's a recipe for success um now we've just watched tim and i've watched sex in the city for the 19th time each uh it is the afternoon or evening time here in America. Tim, what are you looking at? A crisp 10.25am and I'll just let you know that I consumed the entire movie in one big gobbledygook bite today.

So I woke up at 7.30am, whacked her on. It was fucking devastating. There's no way to live. Can you paint us a little picture of your sort of watching environment same as it ever was mate same as it ever was I'm in bed my wife's going to work I'm alone depressed

the gals are there didn't have headphones in this time because I wanted to give myself a treat so I put it on the bluetooth speaker so I could move my head around a little bit more I mean there's not a treat, so I put it on the Bluetooth speaker so I could move my head around a little bit more. I mean, there's not a lot to add now. That is such a terrifying treat. Bleak.

Which also, I'm like, so the other times you're watching, I'm imagining your head almost like with, I don't know, like positioned, like you are physically unable to move it. Aya, you got it. Okay. got it okay all right torture we love it uh well i would describe my viewing environment as largely unchanged save for the company but i oh perhaps for for tim's uh purposes you could describe how you enjoyed the watching experience sure yeah i it was pretty nice i'd. We're on this lovely Walmart couch.

They should really throw you guys a buck or two. Absolutely. There's a lot of spawn happening. In our experience, this is how sponsorship begins. We were on our Walmart couch. Yeah, it was nice. We're in Guy's apartment. Cozy place.

A little sun peeking through the window. Guy was being a really nice host and offering lots of snacks. Yeah, we both had CBD soda water. Yeah. Oh, the weed stuff. What? I don't know. I don't know what it's meant to do.

You've said before it calms you? Yeah, it kind of just makes your muscles chill out chill out and also i think it like it's supposed to the idea is that it counteracts all the soda stuff that's happening so all of like the high energy stuff that soda gives you it cancels it out so you're just at sort of like a net zero so yeah i guess cbd is the that's the medical bit that's like what they use for pain relief It's the THC that's the psychoactive bit And then the CBD is the But why would you put that in soda water?

Because it can make people spend money Yeah, I think because you get to charge an extra dollar per soda Fucking good shout That's great Yeah, so we're addicted to capitalism Yeah And But we're addicted to capitalism. Yeah. But we just sort of, you know, heads down, bums up, just another day at the office.

What's up? Hey, what was the banter like? That's a little saying from back home IO, by the way. Head down, bum up just means you're getting to work, you know? Nice. You're not getting distracted. You're just plowing ahead. You're going through uh give me a little peek behind the curtain what was what was the banter like what was the back and forth what was the commentary during watching the film uh well what what jumped out i kept asking io to tell me what she thought the stakes were

which is as you know tim quite a challenging question when you're watching Sex and the City. So maybe now for the benefit of our listener, you can tell me what the stakes of this film actually are. We have one listener addressed. It was really hard. It kept being a challenge because also I said this, it wasn't a movie. It was six episodes of a show stitched together.

And so that just makes it fully impossible. For half of the movie, I think the stakes were just like the concept of wedding planning, I want to say. Just like the idea that you could plan a wedding or you couldn't, you know? That felt like... But also because the wedding planning does kind of take place in the background of you're just watching Carrie walk around shops. Well, in the background, Anthony is presumably working his little tail off to get this wedding up and running. Oh, yeah. Fully, fully the only one of the only one of two gay men in this universe, really just working very hard,

but also like rudely. Yeah. He's not a nice man. He's not. He shouldn't. I don't know if he has to be, because once again, he is one of the only two gay men who exists in the city at this time.

So, you know, maybe he's been built a little bit tougher. I don't know. But that just felt like, i mean it so you got wedding planning for the first half yeah and then the second half was like will she be okay like is she gonna be all right will she sort of get out of bed and i know that it's supposed to be like will she in big will won't she and big. But it but it didn't actually feel like that.

It felt like, is she going to get out of bed? Which is don't you think that's kind of better, though, because the whole TV shows about will they won't they with big. But I think her new boyfriend, Depression, is kind of an interesting guy to introduce. Right. Because, like, she would just be dating another guy, I guess, in the show or something like that. How would we feel about the introduction of... Because I guess Jennifer Hudson essentially portrays her rebound. But how would we feel?

I know it's unlikely that's going to happen between now and our next viewing, but if they did introduce some sort of rebound character some sort of new romantic interest where carrie realizes because then at least there's a motive or there's some reason for her to still pine for big like i want to meet the russian he's in the intro bit alex alexander or something but it's spelt like with a k in the russian way yeah pretzschowski i want that guy i want to meet him i want to hang out with them i what's your exposure to the sex in the city franchise i um didn't really watch much of it uh because i i grew up in tv was very limited truly by choice by like choice of my family and so i didn't really like it just wasn't very interesting to me even though i have seen like we were watching it and i was like oh i've

seen like the spreads and like the dresses and like i knew who like the big designers were like it got that sort of stuff but i didn't really i didn't have any interest in it i guess and then i guess later on i've seen like a few of the episodes just because there's like ones that you're supposed to watch and what was your impression so from from what you cobbled together of the sex in the city franchise coming in to watch the movie yes what was your impression of the characters and how has that changed having spent two and a half interminable hours in their company it sort of did cement for me that these women are insufferable um they are so horrible to be around they seem like bad friends and it's kind of incredible that they

have i mean as characters i guess had friendships for so long but i guess it's it's like of incredible that they have, I mean, as characters, I guess, had friendships for so long. But I guess it's like if you're in a long-term relationship with someone where you can let, you know, you put the best version of yourself forward to begin with. Right. And you hide all the grisly stuff. No, I'm awesome. I'm awesome and I'm perfect. And I actually don't relate to what you're saying at all. That's actually really weird.

Yeah, sorry. But, Guy, we've been friends for, what, like five-ish years now? We wouldn't treat each other the way these women do. They're fucking wretched. They're just, like, all talking on top of each other. No one's listening to each other. No one wants to help each other. We talked about that.

Yeah. I'm doing it i i uh yeah consistently i don't think we would extend the same sort of treatment to one another as the characters in this movie do i mean i guess it's it's it's a tough one because it's like you know if if you are only vaguely familiar then you you take this movie you are like these these are bad people yeah but if you're only vaguely familiar with it you take this movie you are like these these are bad people yeah but if you're only vaguely familiar with it and you go back and you work your way through the series from the beginning i i do get the feeling the more we are mean to this movie that if i spent enough quality time with these women beforehand they've earned the right to mistreat me so in this right

and like there's this because it's so flimsy. Like you were saying the reasoning behind Big and Carrie's separation at the wedding is so like, it's so underwritten. And this is like such a huge turning point

for the film. But it's like, if I've spent 10 seasons of them being on and off again, then suddenly, do I believe the motivation that because he didn't see her face directly

or she didn't pick up her phone on the day of the wedding, that's reason enough for this like incredibly, you know, uh, moody guy to decide not to get married. Yeah. I,

I, you're giving them too much credit. I think it's just, maybe it's just badly written. It's okay. If it is badly written, there is a joke in the movie and i can't remember what it was but it's when they're in mexico i think and um samantha like she points out she's like oh a joke

a bad one but a joke and so i'm like okay the writers know like they do know that that this isn't very good but you know it is what it is it is a good way to couch all of your bad jokes that you've you know snuck into a script right like getting the other cat like that feels like a war in the writer's room even though this was a an auteur's vision this was just mattress pikelet king writer producer director but it is very funny to write in bad jokes and then just disqualify them by having other characters observe. Like at different times playing audience surrogate. Like, fuck you.

This joke sucks. Sorry. No, you go, Tim. No, no. This is a real curveball. I'm going to hold it for later. Okay. A very funny observation that has not occurred to Tim nor myself or any of our guests uh as to why charlotte

may have found herself in the medical situation she does in mexico yeah so that was so psychotic they tried to um i guess like pitch it as if she finally drank the water and that is what made her sick it's like lady you've been eating chocolate pudding for like six days for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like, what's up? Your body is rejecting that. You need fiber. You need fruits and veg. Like, of course you're going to be ill.

You've been eating pudding. She has the smallest amount of shower water going to her mouth and that's what we've taken yeah that's not how food poisoning works but we never put it together to the point where it's like oh yeah you've been eating pudding exclusively for a week your organs are collapsing in on themselves they're screaming for help um so psycho for a plot line also it's well there's that's sort of like that was a big i feel like there are a few big gambits or bits that they're like these are the moments we hang our hats on that movie audiences will see and they'll go out and talk about right you've got the jilting so you've got first of all the fact that they're getting married is huge yes then

you've got the jilting yeah you've got charlotte shitting herself classic and then you have uh the the flaccid the shot of well it's not really flaccid yeah you have the shot of dante's turgid penis in the show no no that's a guy moment i think everyone else is like hey cool a little bit of pain in the movie but you've really fucking honed in on don i feel like it was big i feel like it was big and i also want to add you see steve's ass yeah and you were stoked i yeah but i love steve you every yeah you got what the banter was and that was a lot of it it was like aggressively lusting after steve every time he was on screen he's so so hot. He's so fucking hot. He is.

And he's like a good man. Yeah. Well, yeah, he does. He does quite heavily in this film. Yeah. No, in a big way. And it's bad. And that's not good.

But he's hot and like a good dad. And that's sort of it for me, I think. Yeah, that's it. Let's delve into this. Like, what think. Yep, that's it. That's an attractive quality. Let's delve into this. Like, what is it about him that makes him so attractive? Is it purely a physical appearance thing, or is it this kind of dad vibe? The dad vibe is a hot vibe.

Yeah. Dad vibe is a hot vibe. When you see, like, a nice father, it's, like, awesome, you know? That's always, like, mm, cool. Glasses help. Can I ask, is there an element with because there is is it a zaddy is like a is that related to dad vibes no well steve is not a zaddy because zaddies are like that's like a sexy sort of um there's something like almost macho adjacent

what you're describing about steve kind of sexy, isn't it? Yeah, but he's like kind sexy. Okay. You know? So a zaddy can't be kind sexy? No, zaddies are like aggressive sexy, I feel like. Steve is like, oh, okay, this is it. I said this to you.

Steve has like, he has like, he's a giver vibe. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. And so that is like hot. Do you think part of the attraction to seeing i guess it's biological and ingrained but seeing someone being a good as a far a good dad is attractive

yeah is there also an element of unattainability where it's like you want what you can't have and you see something well if they're parenting that child i imagine that they are beyond reach for me okay um do we want to move on yeah also because he's a fictitious character in a film the unattainability yes when you see a woman being a great mother do you find that sexually attractive are you like yes please i yes my partner is an incredible mother and i find it incredibly attractive cool no comedy there just a good observation it did just feel like we were coming at io from all angles throwing a lot of questions at our at our podcast thank you tim just a quick i've been all having a good time we're having a I feel like we're all having a good time.

We're having a bit of a laugh. We're having a good time. I want to throw a real curveball at you, though, Ayo. And that is, so, like, obviously, Guy and I did an entire season of watching Sex and the City 2. We watched it a lot of times. 52, some might say. Too many.

And we developed, because we went slightly mad like a whole kind of mythos around the things that were happening just outside of frame or just before or after the movie one of the main things or threads that we sort of built on is brady who is stephen miranda's child um immediately after the events of sex and 2, so a few years on from what you just saw, becomes a rat king, where he descends into the sewer system of New York and basically commands control of New York City's rat population and kind of lords over the underworld.

I just wanted to see if you could imagine that based on the little bits, the little scenes that you saw of young Brady in this film. And if you thought that was like cool, because we think it's cool. Okay, first of all, I would just love to say that I'm so sorry that the two of you are so unwell. It wasn't clear until that theory was fully presented um and thank you for being open enough to share that with me um i actually really love that theory and i love it because we're seeing brady like alone like so much you know and like he's like adjacent to his

to his mother he's like nearby her but he's like you know left to his own devices so who's to say within that time like while he's just out of reach that he's not actually playing with the fire truck that he's speaking to a rat and sort of gaining those first moments of communication like he's learning this skill he's starting to like you know the first taste of his rebellious life you know he's surrounded by all this like egregious wealth like who isn't to say that you know he it's it's sickening to him this whole time oh yeah evil eyes around i love this political undertone so he becomes so like yeah disgusted by this bourgeoisie um yeah he's running in 2040 absolutely if you

if you see that in its entirety as well you sort of because it's your classic supervillain origin story where you spend enough time with him and you see his perspective and you can see how the thoughts that eventually become like quite maniacal, like dictator-y take seed where it's like, he's initially he's rebelling, you know, he turns against wealth to the sewers, to the streets,

to rats, which is like the represents like a very low status, you know, thing in anywhere. And so you're like, yes. And then eventually though, once he learns to control and harvest,

not harvest, but you know, but harbor the power of the rats, his eventual desires are for total global domination. Right, yeah. It goes a little bit too far. No, that's a perfect supervillain origin story. There's sort of good intention behind it, but power corrupts, as they say. It's a sort of like good intention behind it.

Yeah. But power corrupts, as they say. I like... Well, it sounds like... I have such a strong desire to flesh out this story in either like a graphic novel or a web series or something. Like, I really want to make this thing. I think Steve has to die. Well, that's interesting. Yeah.

And he very well could because we also develop quite intensive mythos around steve steve i mean the man the mystery the absolute legend so a few of the things we know about steve is he has no ability to spell so he produces and releases his own line of dictionaries the wealth from which he uses as a platform to run and eventually win the merrily of new york city okay okay now did you see anything in this solo screening of the first sex in the city movie to suggest that this might be somewhere that steve winds up i'm going to be honest with you unfortunately no and that is sort of where you lose me um wow it's so interesting that we have yeah i can meet you on your you're so generous to go along with us like right down the path but

i like also that you have your limits and you're like you know what well there yeah there are characters to me who are illiterate who are very clearly illiterate big yeah illiterate. Yeah. Who are very clearly illiterate. Big. Yeah. Illiterate. Absolutely. Charlotte? Illiterate. Probably illiterate. Absolutely illiterate.

I think Samantha can read, but she chooses not to. And she has people around her dictating things because reading is exhausting. You do see her physically throw a copy of a book away. Of The Secret. Yeah, over her head. Of The Secret. things because reading is exhausting you do see her physically throw a copy of a book of the secret of the secret if you can't finish that you know yeah reading is just like a choice that she chooses not to make but i think steve can read i also think miranda wouldn't have married him if he was illiterate yeah i think that might have been a deal breaker for her do you think the reason that we are or were you naturally more invested in their story

than the others in this film? Yeah. I feel like I probably, I do feel some responsibility, although I know that you are capable of independent thought, but I do always favor that storyline. So I feel like if we have a guest who watches with me, I'm always sort of more engaged.

And then that, you know, but do you also think that's a testament to superior acting to what's being turned in in the rest of the film? Well, here's the thing. I mean, you've got Steve who's got the eyes. And the eyes are like, maybe that's the other thing. There's like second lead eyes, which is like the guy in the rom-com who doesn't get the girl

but who wants the girl, who has like that gaze. Like he's like a master of the sort of longing gaze. And so that's a big help for me. But also, we got Tony-nominated acting on the side of a former gubernatorial candidate, Cynthia Nixon. Rest in peace. She's still still alive i probably shouldn't have said that that's fine she did well though she moved the platform to the left so it wasn't for nothing you

know and you know and move it just a little she did she really did just just enough tim you're alienating our core central listenership of one central listener sorry who's a devout libertarian and you gotta respect that then you just got up um yeah i do think superior acting i also think that storyline had stakes it's like there's a marriage hanging a child in the balance right and it's like something tangible whereas with like i mean literally who cares about charlotte sorry but like literally who she's a horse girl she's a horse girl she is a horse girl yeah she's a horse girl and a pet girl and it's like enough you know um and also like i don't know i feel like samantha it was kind of like on and off like whenever it felt like there were stakes or like something clearly like that she wanted then it sort of would like disappear

or change a little we didn't get to see her bonk you know mr turgid yeah mr turgid how ripped off would you feel going to sex in the City, the movie, after you've been so invested in the series and you don't get to see Samantha? Fuck. It's literally psycho. It's like, that should be illegal. I'm sorry. I feel like Kim Cattrall had it written in because you see right up to the edge in different instances. You see her lusting.

You see her and Smith just post-coital. Right. You see him rolling over. And you see her topless, but she's got leaves covering her nipples. I feel like Kim Gattrell specifically stipulated, I know that it's a huge part of the series, but no sexy time for me. Yeah. Maybe she was tired of it.

That's really – I didn't even think of that that's very obvious good job guy i know i reckon you're wrong on this one monty i reckon it was sarah jessica parker who spent so long at the gym and she was like you ain't gonna take my thunder and this is all part of the kim cattrall sarah jessica parker the beef yeah the beef goes deep the beef goes so deep that beef though would also i feel like because syria just kapaka famously was the only uh one of the the four girls to not get her kid off in the series so i feel like if she really wanted to run back at kim cattrall and like put a flag in the ground she'd be like even more. She'd push the boat out even further and say, this is what my nipples look like.

And no, Kim Cattrall, we're not going to see your nipples in this film. Yeah. Wait, so she would weaponize her own nudity? So to wave it in her face, she would just be like, here are my breasts. Exactly.

If she is going to shut down that avenue for Kim Cattrall, which was a huge part of the series yeah i feel like she'd really want to like rub her face in it and be like and i'm nude now after like making a point of not being nude two fingers fuck you twice i'm crazy in retrospect that sjp so it has there's no topless scene with her and there's like incredibly explicit scenes with most others, I don't think actually what's her name? Kristen

Davis there's a scene where you sort of see her breasts right, in the TV show yeah I think everyone else, I mean they wound up casting a lot of the sexual responsibility in this film. On the man.

Well, yeah, on Donna, but then also on Miranda. Cynthia Nixon, yeah. Oh, that scene with Steve is like from another movie. That's psycho. The lighting, the whole vibe of it is like this is something else. Yeah. Real Caligula sort of intensity. What movie is it from, though?

Do you think it's a real tasteful porno or like what are we looking at in that scene something like a cross between sort of like a tasteful like maybe like female directed porn or to like a like a sort of oscar baity movie where like a woman is like you know her husband dies or you know she has some sort of like pent- movie where like a woman is like, you know, her husband dies or, you know, she has some sort of like pent up frustration and she can only release herself through sex because that's art. And then,

you know, it's like that, like a lot of that. Yeah. Daniel Day-Lewis is starring in this movie and that's like the two sort of B leads. Yeah. Finally get to fuck later on.

Yes. I'ming on set like a little pervert. It's good. It's good and it's going to win an Oscar. Well, seeing as we're here and we're already geared towards quite a positive angle of conversation, I feel like it might be a good time

for us to throw out some shining lights. Tim, amongst the misery of your experience with Sex in the City this morning, was there anything you enjoyed? Honestly enjoyed honestly the end credit starting to roll that was fucking it for me that's the sort of behavior that would have got me told off by you once upon a time yep and now look at you phoning me uh my moment was is a very small moment when Miranda and Carrie are out for dinner it's the confessional dinner

where Miranda eventually you know gets it off her chest that she said this thing to Big the night before the wedding and right before she says that

Carrie's beating up on herself she's saying I reread the Vogue article I didn't say we once it was all I I I which you astutely observed that. Was you, Tim?

Sorry. That's how healthy people talk. Yeah, healthy, normal people communicate by being like, this is how I feel, so that you don't put the onus on the other person. But apparently that's wrong in this universe. Yeah. Well, to everyone save for Miranda. So she's saying that and she's saying, you know,

she's sort of taking full responsibility. Right. And part of it is Miranda's about to, you know, take her share of the burden and say, well, here's what I did. And part of it is I feel like she agrees, disagrees fundamentally with what Carrie's saying, but she does the sort of head shaking, lean back, like I've done or you will have done to friends

where they're saying something that you're like, I love you, I respect you, I i feel you but i disagree with this point and she it's the shot lasts for less than a second but she leans back and she's going no i've got to say this thing and that little beat of acting i thought was an absolute powerhouse wow oh god you have really seen this movie 19 times okay okay oh my god two like broken men the most wounded men um my shining moment um this might have already been said because it is sort of but you know it i have to speak for my for myself yeah absolutely um and my shining moment comes, I think, in the jilting scene, in the big jilting scene.

Do you know what I'm going to say? No, but the flowers? When big, we're what? Sorry, the flowers? Is that it? No, not the flowers. It's Kristen Davis's no. Oh, yeah.

It's just the way that she says no.'s she's um so unimpressive for the whole rest of the movie and that is like it was really powerful it's like from the gut yeah it's really good it is really really strong acting i actually saw it was an argument on twitter recently where uh someone was tweeting saying i can't't believe my boyfriend thinks that Charlotte is the worst character. And she pulls out examples from beyond the films, controversially in my opinion. Well, she was basically saying, so you're telling me that the one smart, driven brunette

who is actually able to articulate that she wants a family and goes out and pursues that goal in the series is the one you least like yeah i think the rest of it one of the specific examples presented though was like a screen cap of that acting being like she defiantly stood up for carrying a moment of need yeah and i saw that and i was like yeah that is even in a still that's powerful yeah it's really good um she is one of the more i feel like the like the the i me characters like even one of her like big um like emotional crises is which is so insane wait i get it but it's so it's nonsense when everybody is like going through horrible things and she's like my life is awesome and what if it isn't one day it's like oh my god you suck that's so annoying yeah she does do that

she tries to hide it though to be fair i think carrie kind of draws that out of her doesn't she or yeah she also is responsible uh i think for one of the poorer pieces of acting which i haven't really noticed as as full-throatedly as i did this week when she does the shitting herself scene yes and you get a feeling that you know there was like they knew that um after after audio effects we're going to be doing all the heavy lifting because all of her acting, it's just a slow kind of crash zoom on her face. And she's just doing different eye bulges

and mouth movements. It is Hot Girl Acting 101. It's awesome. Yeah. What's the secret? I think it's just like you're always aware that you're hot. And so your face can only do so many weird things. So she has to mostly do like eye work and maybe like

a like a twist the lip to one side and then twist the lip to another and and that's okay because her burden is being a beautiful person you know what i mean i love that burden for her she she physically cannot make her face look any worse yeah and that's well speaking of this speaking of a scene that looks like it's you know from another movie i reckon that shot looks like it's from some real broad rom-com because it's weird it's like that kind of visual language is repeated nowhere else in the movie where it's like this slow zoom and it just holds total for comic effect on someone who's shit themselves it's very like cartoony and it doesn't match the rest of anything in there. Yeah.

It is responsible for pulling Carrie out of her Mexicoma, which is the joke to which we were referring Samantha Makes Fun of earlier. Awesome joke. I was so unimpressed. We're on video chat, and you're just shaking your head. You're like, fucking Mexicoma. Well, and while we are here doing little party segments, I would love if we could get outside the lines with Ayo Adebri. Yes.

So, Tim, you know the line. I know the line. Ayo, you know the line. I do know the line now. What in damnation could Carrie be referring to when she says, when Big Colors, he really stays inside the lines? I think she's talking coming i think she's saying when he comes it's all over i think we're talking on the chest we're talking on the face

we're talking on the tub on the back wherever when big colors it's really inside maybe even physical like what's actually happening physically maybe it's not just pnv you know what i mean maybe we're going in as many holes as possible oh it is i have a picture of an emaciated mr big at the end of your walk through there just like he's just exhausted and so thin yeah incredibly dehydrated the white suits are doing all the all the work it is um undeniably the distance there's no other way to read the line we've done the market research uh i think 100 of people agree on what this is it's amazing it's in the movie but thank god it is just to add a little bit of color for us having to watch this 52 times you know what i mean just a little bit of

color okay um i thank you i think you think yeah um yeah i i think it's either it either has to be like where he's coming or that they're doing like weird like they're doing sort of like you know weird wherever he's moving yeah yeah he i you described coming on the chest and the back yeah which to me suggests that not only is mr big doing quite a lot of work but carrie has quite an important role of very fast-paced movement if you want total bodily coverage oh you mean like yeah in one ejaculate getting it in the two locations all over yeah like she has to be like flipping and spinning and sort of like you know moving to and fro you know what i'm imagining now in their bedroom? You know, like how pink's really good on the ribbons? It's like one of those.

It's kind of a harness contraption and Carrie is having to fuck Mr. Big vigorously while on these things. While also like tying herself up like a finely sprung spring and then releases just as he comes. So she can get full body coverage as she spins out wow the miles per hour on that i also love that you said you know how pink's really good on the ribbons which here's the thing it's true and i knew exactly what you meant uh well i'm in the minority here of people who was not aware that pig is really good picking is really good on the ribbon she's great you better be doing a fucking gag right now monty because if you haven't seen pink on the ribbons you haven't fucking lived she is so good i like

i'm not a massive i've kind of fallen out of um pop i actually i do you know for 2019 kind of unofficial resolution i want to get more back into pop i want to absorb more pop i want to like ingratiate myself back into pop music but back when i was working in radio and like top 40 pink was everywhere and she never really left and i just continue to be impressed with that woman's career. It blows my fucking mind and I think we don't talk about it enough. She is kind of the like scandal free, not quite Michael Jackson. Who's a good example? Just someone with like-

Absolutely not quite Michael Jackson. Absolutely not, Jim. But she's constantly like reinvented herself and just the longevity of that woman's career. She's always been in the charts since i was like basically a child and i find it deeply impressive yeah i remember writing my first music assignment on pink when i was still in either year seven or eight and bloody mrs dodgson's music class okay drag her uh no i actually have a really good relationship with Mrs. Dodgson Fuck her up, guy Okay, never mind Absolutely take Mrs. Dodgson to town

Nah, I got a lot of respect for her Nice She wrote you right about pink Yeah, she did I think I've said this on the podcast before But I love the line so much I'll recycle it At the end of the assignment

It was after the release of her first album Okay I wrote Who knows what the future holds But right now Everything sure looks rosy in the world of pink. Fuck you, dude. You hate to hear it.

I was 11. You hate to hear it. Don't put the boot on me when I was 11. I was trying to remember it while I was watching this morning. What's that segment you made up that we now have to do every time that i hate oh uh it's uh called i don't want to i don't want to bother you people that's right yeah and you and you love it uh so i explained to io that we have to do it and that you hate it yeah great uh so io the floor is yours okay so in my mind, Steve's rushing in.

He's coming from a car, which almost seems like a van, if I'm remembering correctly. And he's sweating. And he's in this sort of tense, you know, his marriage has just freshly gotten on the fritz. He's in a really rough, rocky place. He's been out, not allowed to stay at the apartment he's a stressed man he's in every in every man but he's stressed and you know even every man even normal men have their vices and so while he's been out he has lost himself drinking gambling really seedy stuff like full underworld and. And he's gotten, unfortunately,

on the wrong side of the wrong people. And so he's rushing in, not wanting to bother them, because there's a van full of loan sharks and mob men, and they need money, and they need it now. And mob men. And they need money and they need it now. That makes for a much more interesting second half of the film. So he's got nowhere else to turn to.

He knows that all of the people he knows are congregating at this one event, an event he should avoid. Right. But it's the only possible way to protect himself. And then I guess maybe if they take him and still don't have their money, his family. i love it that's so much better it gives kind of a john wick angle to this whole film which i'm very into okay and i would love to see steve lead his own john wick that would be hot i'll say it i'll say it i would be sexually gratified to seeing that to be honest my boy my absolute boy tim correct there is actually another um there's another moment that

becomes a bit john wicky where or like we're taking all the power out of that title by adding a y yes it seems much sillier of a movie john wiki john wiki sort of kiano reeves playing john wick but still trapped in the bill and ted universe uh but it's when carrie's really upset at the jilting and she's and samantha says we can get anything you want and carrie says a hitman and every time she says a hitman i always think how much more interesting would this movie become if even if like samantha's like okay and carrie goes no no no no and then that classic comic beat plays out where this man's like don't worry i heard you and carrie's like no i don't want a hitman she's like yeah i get it you don't want a hitman and then actually goes out and the second half of the movie, Big's got a hit out on him. Yeah.

Fuck, yes. I think that'd be so fun. Because also, here's the thing, we could still have cool outfits. So the people who come to see this for the visuals, they get what they want. You know, the boyfriends come into the theater, they get what they want. They get a little va-va-boom.

That's right. A little gun action. Women love dresses and men love guns men love guns and women love dresses and that's just the way the world is and if you don't like it you can stop listening to this fucking podcast you libertarian solo listener io to wrap up if i may i would just love to get your um opinion for our one libertarian podcast subscriber on whether or not you think like should people watch the film we always tell them not to but i want an outsider's take i think if you are in a

situation where you are like doing laundry and you're all so high out of your mind then maybe it could be something funny just to have on because of noise It also was fun to get to do a hate watch with a friend. That's always fun. I did love Candice Bergen's literal one-noted performance where she did not move her vocal cords. Yeah. The scene after that, Io turned to me and said, I'm trying to figure out how she is funny

because she never changes her voice. But she still killed it. That's talent. Yeah. No, it was very impressive. So if you want to see little gems like that, I say go for a watch. But if you sort of enjoy your own freedom

and sort of the idea of, you know, happiness and peace, I would say don't watch it. That's good. That's good information to have. Because some people don't watch it. That's good. That's good information to have. Because some people don't want peace. Yeah. And that's just true.

So don't do it if you love your chaotic, toxic life. Well, I mean, not really a sage a note to end on. Tim, do you have any final notes or information to share with the good people or person? Absolutely none. I would love to be able to give out IO's dates. I'm going to put it in the episode description, but IO, shout out all your shit where people can find you online.

Oh, yeah. I'm on Instagram and Twitter and I post all my shows and stuff there if you want to see me in real life talking about stuff. Just look at the episode description. The links are in way, I'm experiencing what you're describing right now,

and it's fantastic. That sort of, yeah. Thank you so much, everyone. We'll see you soon for It's a Milestone Watch, our 20th screening of Sex and the City. Huge one. Thanks, Io. Bye. Thank you.

We just have a good rhythm together, you know. He sort of feels me out, I feel him out. And we go for it.