The Worst Idea Of All Time - 23: Quiz Night

Episode Date: March 11, 2019

Guy and Tim have had a fight but it’s OK now. The boiz turn to Cosmo's 'Which Sex and The City gal are you' quiz to pass the time. Timbo’s interested in The Flash’s dick pics and acting experien...ce (shout out to the Breaker Uperers) and we enjoy some beautiful haiku poems. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he sort of feels me out, I feel him out, and we go for it. We're at an all-time high We'll take on the world and win Doing so much more Than falling in love Bond themes to get you through. Ah, is that what that was? Maybe I should kick off every episode with a different Bond theme.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I don't think so. Welcome along to episode 23 of The worst idea of all time uh a podcast in which tim and i are watching and reviewing sex in the city the film at pace ever heard of it it's a movie you shouldn't watch because it ain't no good so uh as always or as as we have largely been so far this season we are separated by great masses of land and water uh i'm recording in new york tim is of course at little empire hq in grayland auckland new zealand that was the worst uh screening of sex in the city i've had so far um i felt like i i agree i'm with you on that me also i felt like uh my energy was being reflected back to me by the girls uh i just felt like we were it was this really we're just all of us everyone involved in the
Starting point is 00:01:46 operation were trapped in a in a an unhealthy and lethargic state and uh okay none of us could do anything to shake it off there was there was nothing in the way of uh game changes to tell me some more i want to dig into how you felt about it tell me some more feeling words around the sort of emotional state you were going through watching it this is uh i i i've got to start with the coverall of just low just like um just really unhappy and resigned uh resentful at all or did you not have the energy no i didn't even there was not even the spark of you know arguably righteous you know the indignity of it i couldn't even muster the the energy to be upset by i was just like oh just you know just this is my life uh like probably the
Starting point is 00:02:39 most heavy amount of regret i've felt since agreeing to do this season i feel like personally uh digging up this podcast uh format has served its purpose of keeping us in regular contact um and we now talk somewhat you know regularly around recording the podcast which is kind of see it's becoming pavlovian just admit it guy no fucked up no what the aim was was for us to be friends again but what we did is uh this is this is this is a very dangerous work environment that we've built for ourselves instead well i you know it's interesting you bring that up i'm glad you do because um our last episode i felt like well
Starting point is 00:03:26 you know the movie was not necessarily enjoyable we were both in pretty good spirits and uh a little peek behind the curtain here i feel like some of that can be attributed to uh at the end of the episode before that we had scheduled to do some work that i could no longer do and i i uh bailed on it and you were very irate you became frustrated and upset um and we sort of uh it was like i it was there was tension between us in a way that is not very familiar to me i don't know if if you can recall any times when there's been genuine tension between us can you uh no i don't think so like that was probably as close to as close to it as it's been and that many many years apart from what's been captured on microphone that we've been doing this now and uh but we sort of we both you know we both uh acknowledged wrongdoing
Starting point is 00:04:18 and and moved on and uh i felt like the last episode of the podcast was the podcasting equivalent of makeup sex. I see. I felt like it served a really important purpose in terms of our interpersonal relationship where we were happy to be with each other. It was a reminder of why we were doing it. And this, not episode, but certainly screening of Sex and the City
Starting point is 00:04:42 felt to me like, if not the immediate moments maybe the hours the morning and the day after the makeup sex where uh and this is not to do with you but to do with the movie where all of the reasons why there was makeup sex to be had in the first place yeah sort of bubble back up to the surface and that you think it's akin to we should have broken up rather than get back together i don't think we should have broken up i don't think i could live with that tim i i genuinely cannot describe how uh how bad i felt when i realized how angry you were uh i felt like i i felt very heavy and uh and naughty's too too simple too simpler a word for like i just felt bad like to my core so i
Starting point is 00:05:37 don't think breaking up is the fix but i just think like you know that sort of orgasmic sexy glow that was both written all over our voices and faces during the last record has completely drained out of my body and uh this was like well now that we've gone just the screening man i i'm just trying to find ways to articulate how it felt and it was just doing a good job it was drudgery it was uh it was like everything that's you know like in the throes of climax you know i've never felt so close to you but uh this is just like all bad bad bad falling action bad bad bad uh how are you feeling friend not good at all it took such an exceptional amount of willpower
Starting point is 00:06:26 to actually kick the movie off this morning. I went to bed pretty late last night because I was just doing work and stuff, and we've had to get up very early and often in the middle of the night to accommodate this new little doggie that I've got to take him to the bathroom and whatnot outside to make sure that he gets used to
Starting point is 00:06:46 that but as a result a little bit sleep deprived and so i woke up this morning i was just like no no no yeah fuck and then look at the clock and do the math it's like well i have to start it like at like this minute to be on time for the record so on we went but it was just so savage it was savage man it's real uh it's like mean it is treating me with meanness now with real contempt where where did it feel the meanest and or like the saggiest at what point were you like this does go on forever so the moments just before kicking off the movie before pressing play were like terrible and then you the fuck it you said this a couple episodes ago the music kicks off and i took massive issue with that yeah huge umbridge with the sexed up sex in the city theme song that they've wheeled out as being the um sort of unofficial score of this film that really perturbed me and you just i was just feeling so defeated really hopeless
Starting point is 00:08:06 and then you kind of kick into it it starts, events start happening we've got the big montage and what not we've got Big putting an entire nose in his mouth which is fucking weird and then you kind of get through some things
Starting point is 00:08:22 some things are going on but it's the fucking dress sequence man every time so many dresses the so many just hanging out with old friends like like stanford blatch charlotte charlotte york i can't remember and then she starts reeling off the brands, right? Yeah. Yeah. Here's what I want to do, Guy. Like Vera Wang, I wrote them all down this week, Tim. And Caroline Brown. And Christian Lacroix.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And Maya Gown is all I could make up. And Dior. And Oscar De La Renta. And finally, Vivienne Westwood. A dress so beautiful it could draw a tear from even the most... Fuck, what's the word she uses? Is it cynical?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, I think so. Even the most... Unbelieving? Unbelieving! Unbelieving! Wedding guests or something like that. Fuck. I'm getting better each time, but I'm still not where I should be with the script. Okay, here's my offer, guy.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I'm on cosmopolitan.com because I've just searched for the which sex in the city gal are you? Are you ready to dip in? We're going to do a quiz. Okay. Now, I want you to know that the first thing is you know websites now when you go on and like every fucking single one of them is like hey do you want notifications on this website and you go well i didn't want notifications on the previous 950 000 websites
Starting point is 00:10:01 but you know what obscure shopping website from australia where i'm going to buy a dog toy yeah sure please keep me up to date on the latest goings and comings of your particular organization i need to know please embed them into my browser so my web experience can be truly complete anyway cosmo's version of that is they've got a little dialogue box that says want to stay on top of all the shit you actually care about sign up now the two options guy are obviously and i'm boring well i don't even know if that's legal this feels like the wording on that runs afoul of the eu regulations it feels like you can't just witness tampering i'm boring it does yeah exactly okay so we get
Starting point is 00:10:51 past that dialogue box then it says cosmopolitan want makeup hacks that will change your life enter your email for secrets and shortcuts fuck off bring me to the quiz i would like to say this tim and feel free to push back this is as low as we've been this season yes yes i know it's not appealing but this quiz this feels like a celebration a triumph this feels like a distraction it feels like uh a moment's escape from these awful feelings that we're both having. I am much more interested in hearing you drag yourself through the muck and the mire of your current mental state than I am in knowing which Sex and the City gals we both are
Starting point is 00:11:40 because the answer is clear to me. Yeah? I'm a Miranda. Well, let's test if that's true. Surely there can be no greater authority on this than Cosmopolitan magazine. Okay. What do you say, buddy?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Here's the thing, guy. There are a few different... I was going to say there's two kinds of people in this world. Maybe that's true. Let's run with that for a second. there's two kinds of people in this world maybe that's true let's run with that for a second there's two kinds of people in this world there's the kind of people who when they get sad they put on a dowel and they celebrate their sadness and they stay in it and often they stay there for too long and they just want to like feel all the negativity process and go through it and then there's people like me who just want to forget
Starting point is 00:12:27 about all that put on some venga boys and just dance your woes away let's do this quiz i i think that there's i think i'm a positive person i like to feel good i think that's established i mean you know that tim it's canon but there's value in in leaning into the misery not just in this instance there's value in allowing yourself to feel sad because once the quiz is over we're still in the same quandary you know or that then we will deal we will cross that bridge it We've still got like 29 more screenings Of this movie to go Don't say that Why it's true
Starting point is 00:13:09 That is a disgusting thing to say Not even over the halfway mark This is how it feels Hey mate what you just said out loud Is fucked This is what it's meant to feel like Tim This feels familiar
Starting point is 00:13:24 This is where it's meant to feel like, Tim. This feels familiar. This is where we got to at this point with Sex and the City 2, I think. Yeah. It was right around this. This is a familiar neighborhood. I've been in this suburb before. These houses. I know these houses.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They're broken down. It feels scary, and I can feel it. It is a physical presence that I can feel all the way from my chest down to the bottom of my heels, like this dread, this deep dread. Oh, baby. dread oh baby it's so it's a lot I think we talk about this often
Starting point is 00:14:13 but it's for a good reason a lot is to do with the duration there is something to be said for how long you're just spending in it inside of it it's far too long that's meant to be what makes it funnier anyhow
Starting point is 00:14:29 I am now that I've communicated that feeling I feel sufficiently, I'm happy to take this quiz so that those 29 looming screenings can be taken secure in the knowledge which character I am, according to the good folks at Cosmopolitan meant to empathise with the most?
Starting point is 00:14:47 I can barely talk. I can barely summon words right now. Hey, Guy, I believe each question will play out like this. There is a question and then four possible answers. You tell me what one you relate to the most. Love at first sight is absolutely real. Forget love. I'd rather have sex cute in theory or utter fiction uh cute in theory oh that's a good answer
Starting point is 00:15:15 um guy you haven't got any action lately you pull out your handy vibrator focus on other things such as reading and jogging go on the aggressive meeting people uh friends dating apps you'll find someone or finally there's something called tinder that can easily take care of that uh oh this last two are pretty similar yeah it's a tough one to answer. I feel like it would be, I would action it somehow. So one of them is aggressive and one of them is just going on Tinder. Even though I'm not big into Tinder, I feel like the tone of that answer represents best what I would do. Good, I've selected that for you.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Guy, your lingerie of choice is a colorful bra and a thong just a little edge a lacy corset that doesn't require too much skill to take off a very cute bra and panty set or whatever's functional since it's coming off anyway. Probably the, I do like matching, but I think I would wear, oh, no, I don't know that I would wear a thong. It's a pain in the, but I think, oh, this is actually quite fun. I think I would wear, I'll go for the fun, the thong and the the fun bra is it a fun
Starting point is 00:16:47 bra okay so so there's um two options you're leaning to one of them says a colorful bra and a thong just a little edge yeah this is a very cute bra and panty set uh i think i like the just a little edge i like that tag so i So I'm going to go for that. Great. Guy, the guy you're into is starting to fade. What's your last move? Is it A, an invitation to a home-cooked meal at your place? B, an invite to meet you at the bar where you'll look your hottest? C, some decent sexts ending with a promise that if he comes by,
Starting point is 00:17:23 you'll give him a night he'll never forget or d a text straight up asking what the deal is and if he's not interested he should just stop talking to you now uh i gotta tell you i think i would go to the bar and yeah that's that's largely because i feel like you know if you're not sure how your energy is with this person, I don't want them in my house, risking like a night of shit conversation, trapped in my own home. Hard out. That's a great answer.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Text is too indirect. And like, I don't think I would ever be capable of sending a message being like, I'm going to give you the best night of your life. That is... Can I ask you another question? So I think we've got our answer, which is the bar. Just a little detail question
Starting point is 00:18:05 have you ever um captured your genitals to digital media somehow have i taken a dick pic yeah yes good shit that's not on here that was a quiz for me yeah i guessed as much why why are you curious it's just something I'm always curious about with people. Have you? I haven't, but I think it's because I'm quite paranoid about technology. Yeah. I've never committed my junk to a computer. Look, that's sensible.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And, you know, I can't imagine achieving enough success that that would be of interest to anyone. But what can I say to him i live in you've been naked on stage though i've seen your penis and and people i've i'm pretty sure i'm naked in other people's photos which is a slightly different thing uh um yeah but like there's a big there's a big difference between, you know, the knowledge that there might be your flaccid penis might be in circulation and your erect penis feels to me like a more private penis. It's a hell of a statement piece, isn't it? Having that photo out there. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Your relationship deal breaker is when the guy is just too clingy and generally asking for too much time that's not grammatically correct is just too clingy and generally asking i understand the the gist of it though keep going uh just has too small a dick sorry you have needs wasn't emotionally connect with you oh sorry won't emotionally connect with you or i won't put you first it's between the emotional connection and the clingy one uh but uh i'm gonna go for emotionally won't emotionally connect with me okay guy you had two great great dates with a guy you just met you a are ready to call it and switch to one of other five guys you're dating
Starting point is 00:20:16 dude's no sensation in bed you can't change the premise of the question in one of the options. D, suggest an original date, cooking together, film festival. That'll totally charm him. C, wait for him to text since you know if he's interested, he'll pursue you. That's more romantic. Or D, after Facebook stalking and getting all the intel possible to confirm he's not crazy, reach out and suggest dinner. What? This one's so what they've
Starting point is 00:20:47 already been we've already been on two great dates and it's like what do i do next i i just i guess i go on another date whatever the closest to that option was yeah i think suggesting an original date cooking together film festival is probably the yeah yeah that's the closest yeah that's the closest this one's fucking all over the map sort of that cosmo um guy what's your favorite sex position a cowgirl b missionary c what isn't or d you don't really have a favorite one you're into mixing it up. D. Good man. A guy takes you out to drinks and you want to impress him. So you order A, whatever he's having, because you can take it.
Starting point is 00:21:34 B, wine, because you're totally sophisticated. Sorry, it's wine, because that's totally sophisticated. C, sex on the beach, just because the word sex is in it and he should take a hint. Or D, whatever you want because your conversation should be impressing him, not alcohol. Such a sassy. Obviously, it's option D.
Starting point is 00:22:02 This is so stupid though. You go out for it. You're asking what you want though. The question question is like what do you want to drink and the answer is whatever you want it's like yeah okay sweet what's that well yeah but the others are all tethered to you know how you assume it's being interpreted but that was the only one which represents any sort of amount of genuine free will there we okay guy has agency roger that um how far through this quiz are we oh and there's no way to tell oh my gosh guy what's your true sex fantasy is it a the most charming guy in the world after proposing so romantically of course course, takes you home?
Starting point is 00:22:45 B, you're seriously asking that? C, a super buff handsome guy whisks you away to a luxury penthouse and you go at it all night? Or D, this blank won't do it justice. It's that intense. Was there only three options? There's four.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So, charming guy in the world, most charming guy in the world. Most charming guy in the world. The B is just, you're seriously asking that? C is a super buff handsome guy at a luxury penthouse. And D, this blank won't do it justice. It's that intense. I interpreted you saying you're seriously asking that as a critique of the quiz. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:23:22 That is written in my voice. What is the question again? Your true sex fantasy uh my true charming guy charming guy buff guy you seriously asking that or this blank won't do it justice it's intense uh charming guy oh no, no, no. Buff Guy. Buff Guy. Buff Guy includes a luxury penthouse and you go at it all night. To be honest, yeah. Charming Guy feels too realistic to me,
Starting point is 00:23:54 whereas Buff Guy is kind of like, that is a bit more of a fantasy. Yeah. Oh, that was it. That was the last one. Guy, guess who you are uh honestly i have i have no idea though you're carrie bradshaw confident fun and not afraid to put yourself out there and see what you find your firm sense of who you are is something people totally envy and flock to be true to it against the jerks who come along uh well that's very that's very sweet um i remember
Starting point is 00:24:34 when we first started watching sex in the city 2 i i identified with carrie or wanted to be carrie the most if only because i feel like i am the lead and this you know the romantic comedy that is my life um however you know the more time that we've spent with them the more i have warmed to miranda um and i i stand behind that but uh yeah look what can i say there it is that was actually uh i don't know what it was like to listen to but i was having a really fun time answering those questions um great so i i suppose it was quite long though so i suppose we'll discover which character you are maybe in the next episode as i couldn't care less i would what i said sorry i just said i couldn't care less it's just i just needed something to do guy because i
Starting point is 00:25:25 really i watching it today i was in such dire straits as like i don't even think i can talk i need something else to sort of do the thinking for me in this episode oh my god can you can you uh tell me i know that you've sort of you've given an overview of the moments when you felt the lowest but is there any specific moment that made you cross when did it feel like the filmmakers and the performers were specifically antagonizing you my friend tim bat i don't know this is i want to give you a moment but it was just the whole body of work is the thing that makes it so interminable is that the word i'm looking for i wanted to cry at different parts of it when did you want to cry most of it during most of it i i mean you're you're these are two broader strokes to him i
Starting point is 00:26:20 want okay fair enough the the big punches the real haymakers that this movie landed on me this week was the dress sequence which always happens uh the new year's montage which always happens as well and just is that because of old lang syne it just is so slow moving and shitty and also just everything to do with the wedding because there's no fun to be had in any of that stuff like there's other little bits where we've got character actors or fun little things or at least samantha just to brighten up the screen but when you're dealing rudgery of carrie bradshaw and john big oh man fuck it's just it truly is a chore okay i'll flip the question uh who did you care about in this in this screening i cared about well actually this leans into my shining light so should i do that uh to answer the question first let it naturally
Starting point is 00:27:25 segue into the shining light i care about louise's family yeah back home in saint louis she's got um what i would uh guess to be a, a young niece who looks to be about eight years old. She's got a mum and a grandma, and they're all dress shopping or doing the fitting for the wedding dress for her coming nuptials. And they seem like good people, and we don't see very much of them that was your
Starting point is 00:28:06 shining light though it wasn't my shining light guy because you told me not to do the shining light yet here is my shining light don't be sniffing with me it is when the little girl who i'm guessing is louise's niece says uh that dress makes your baby your boobies look big and then louise says mama can you take her this is a work call uh and then the the mom and the grandma kind of grab her and my shining light is the look on the grandma's face we're just like oh child you are out of line oh really so a very good a very good performance especially considering how how little screen time she is afforded it could be three quarters of a second that she is in this whole movie honestly we should count the frames but she uh communicates
Starting point is 00:29:01 excellently to the screen i'm'm looking forward to checking in with her next time I watch the movie it's a real treat guy it's a real three quarter of a second treat in this two and a half hour marathon do you want to know mine? I do, I really do I've noticed it before
Starting point is 00:29:23 but I enjoyed it the most I kind of wanted this scene to go for longer just because I was really enjoying the performance that Sarah Jessica Parker was turning in even though the set up for this scene is one of the most annoying moments in the movie Charlotte is at home
Starting point is 00:29:40 with her family, it's breakfast time she's combing through the newspaper and who should appear on page 6 but her dear friend carrie bradshaw um the wedding her wedding to mr big it's been announced it's gone public by the way as a quick aside can i say it makes no sense that carrie is like everyone seemed to have heard about the wedding of course they fucking she's like include you know people you wouldn't even inspect, including my Vogue editor. Like, you have a close interpersonal working relationship with this person.
Starting point is 00:30:11 There has been a public announcement. It is her job to be across the social pages of a newspaper. It is totally reasonable to expect this woman to have caught wind of your wedding. Like the idea that it's a surprise. It's this sort of faux humble thing that really fucking gets under my skin oh guy but that's that's movies hurt you no no no yeah it has but no uh but before that happens she calls up and she says uh your wedding's in page six and carrie is lounging around at home with big they're having quite a leisurely morning it looks like possibly a weekend and she's uh
Starting point is 00:30:45 definitely a weekend i reckon she has got some toast and she's sort of like in comfortable clothes and she's sitting with her legs up on the couch and uh it's sort of it's that whole i've i sort of thought of it as toast acting but that whole yeah the whole energy the way she sort of just glides through the scene the way she sits uh the way she chews the way she sort of refers back to big uh between you know the information that charlotte's feeding her i just thought it was uh an absolute master class and um i'm a big fan of actors, or not of actors, but in my limited experience of acting, I'm a big fan of having something to do with my hands.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It's interesting when you try to act, it's probably the most aware you'll ever be of your hands and generally your lower arms because you're like, oh, wow, what am I doing with these all the time? And I mean, not that i think sarah jessica parker needs a piece of toast to to be convincing in a scene but i just thought it was uh honestly it was uh and it's pretty upsetting because it came so early in the movie but it was a real fucking
Starting point is 00:31:58 really were you sort of thinking in your head that uh if you had been cast as carrie bradshaw in the the film make of it you'd be very grateful for that uh if you had been cast as carrie bradshaw in the the film make of it you'd be very grateful for that scene because you'd have uh i think that's definitely part of it like in my mind i was like well you know if this was the audition scene there'd be a chance you would nail it not nail it but i would feel more confident with that being the audition scene than say the scene where they're looking around the apartment. And I, I don't,
Starting point is 00:32:26 I don't have a brief of what to do with my hands. Yeah. Do you, when you are acting in films, which you have done, uh, you're actually in a movie that's being released globally on Netflix called the breaker opera. It's right.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Support. Everyone should say support New Zealand, uh, moviemaking support, Jackie van Beek and Madeline Sami. It's a very funny film. called The Breaker Uppers, which everyone should see. Support New Zealand movie making. Support Jackie Van Beek and Madeline Sami. It's a very funny film. The Breaker Upper is streaming all over the world on Netflix except in New Zealand and Australia.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Because a different company got in there first because I don't think our mates expected to be able to sell it to streaming giant Netflix. And I tell you what there will never be a movie that has more Little Empire people in it Rose is in it Rose Matafayo from Bones of the Heart
Starting point is 00:33:14 Pax Asadi is in it from the freaking Dangerous Bro show who else is in it Chris Parker is in it isn't he yeah Chris Parker, Nick Sampson from the male gaze nick nick sampson of walkout boys it's fucking head to toe podcast hosts who are dabbling in acting that's how i want to frame it yeah absolutely podcasting is everyone's main vocation that is
Starting point is 00:33:39 true in new zealand um i had a uh fuck what were we talking about just now sorry i feel like i derailed you're talking about oh yeah so when you go for roles do you would you would you enjoy having some direction stage direction on what to do with your hands written on the scripts uh not necessarily i just know that it makes me feel more relaxed but uh to be honest like i i i'm at a point now of still you know very mild success but just comfort within myself i think where uh i i don't worry about that because i'm like well i'm essentially going to be cast as a version of myself and so all i can do is show up as myself and if that's what they want great and if it's not i can't do anything
Starting point is 00:34:30 about that so uh i i don't worry too much about the hand stuff now but i i am still attitude i still carry that awareness within myself and so i don't know actually i mean that might be a nice a nice uh slice of variety for the next screening is if we both really concentrate on the hands of our performers sure uh sure i welcome any other ideas i've had is to focus exclusively on the performance of one of the core four so if you just watch charl Charlotte for the whole film, even when the filmmakers, she's in a scene with other actors or characters and the filmmakers clearly want you to focus on them,
Starting point is 00:35:14 just zero in on Charlotte. And I feel like that's where you're going to probably wind up picking up quite a good number of acting tips. There are no small roles, only small actors. Charlotte's an interesting one for that because i've paid very close attention to her during other people's scenes and her reactions that she does and it is charlotte's job in a lot of scenes to just laugh at the jokes of other yeah she does a lot of background laughing yeah she's very supportive yeah she does like a few of them are pretty weak like when they uh when they're carrie's shopping and charlotte's worried that her life's gonna go wrong
Starting point is 00:35:53 and uh for the disc yeah and she goes out with the old and in with the overpriced uh i don't know if it was a decision by kirsten dav or if it was Charlotte didn't find the joke as funny but it was a very half hearted sort of sort of dismissive laugh that she doles out there I think that's very rough of you to lead with that feedback Guy because
Starting point is 00:36:18 she in pretty much every other moment is very over the top with her support take the first scene where we we meet her in real time when they're walking to the auction and uh she doles out on the charlotte report i actually wrote it down she gives out four big chuckles and also two big massive sort of skyward looking sighs so she's doing a lot of heavy lifting around the edges and if you watch it once it feels naturalistic but if you keep watching it it feels very performative incredibly so yeah that's so true with her if you zone in on what
Starting point is 00:36:51 she's doing it it feels very like she's uh doing acting um but then again what can we expect movies aren't supposed to be watched in this way well yeah and this isn't the regular consumption pattern of your typical punter isn't it interesting acting's one of the few vocations where it's like uh i she was acting a bit like one of the few jobs where if you do the job too much or you you know put in too much it becomes negative it's like you're never like an accountant oh yeah they were accounting a bit hard today but with acting you're like oh no they were acting a bit they were reaching a bit they were acting a bit too hard i think yeah but acting should be like
Starting point is 00:37:34 too hard means something different in that context you know it means it's become unnaturalistic because surely the goal of any acting is to sell a performance as being believable well not always that's that is you know tone dependent what what is the movie going for i would not say i can't speak to the show but this movie it sort of it feels naturalistic but it's not wholly natural like the world they exist in is rarefied is this a real story but in terms of an actor's job it's their job to sell that environment as being cohesive and in actual yeah oh man who even cares i wrote something down oh i quite like seeing dante's penis this episode yeah why was that it's just something a bit different isn't it guy um you know yeah i guess
Starting point is 00:38:34 yeah i mean i lord knows i can relate to just really grabbing onto stuff i got a more negative observation which was i really don't like the doors uh that big chose for the wardrobe people i thought you meant jim morrison it's like how dare you uh i i don't have anything specifically against the doors but i don't love them the way i once did i think they're fine god he put a lot of stuff out there before he died at the ripe old age of 27 where's the doors cover band intergalactic no that was the kinks and uh oh fuck it was to the king they're called intergalactic glory hole and the the songs of course not performed in the style of the kinks but as a one of those sort of upbeat late 90s early 2000s scar
Starting point is 00:39:18 bands yeah i do want to just finish this point that the doors and i don't know why i would expect mr big to have any taste because the way he dresses himself in this film is appalling. The cut of the suits is, I don't know, I don't know if it was meant to represent the meltdown he's having, but Jesus Christ, it's hard to get behind this guy. But he chooses these doors that he puts in front of the ward the hanging racks in the wardrobe i fucking hate when people put doors in front of the racks i mean spaces that are not so
Starting point is 00:39:53 much in their home i guess lord knows where they found the space for this huge wardrobe i imagine it cuts a huge chunk into the courtyard just this horrible protruding box but you're so right about that i cannot imagine a blueprint where this wardrobe works if you look yeah sorry yeah if you paint if you paint a floor map when they're walking around the house initially and then you see the size of this wardrobe from what it was it's just it screams if it doesn't make any sense screams of compromise and huge other parts of the house but i just i don't like these doors. I really fucking hate these doors. So just to be clear, you're talking about the doors.
Starting point is 00:40:30 We are inside the wardrobe. We're inside the wardrobe. Yeah. So here's the thing about those doors, Guy. I've got a theory. I think that those doors are serving as a bit of a temperature and moisture control for the clothes that are in there. So it's kind of like a museum.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like they're keeping them in ideal condition so the clothes are at peak closeness. Yeah, the logic holds true, but no expense has been spared here. Just put in an air purifier, you know, like get an HRV, put something in there. Anyway, that's all by the by we're running out of time so i think it's important we do your favorite segment and mine i don't want to bother you people now steve has arrived he is an emotional and physical wreck he hops out of a cab he's gate crashing at least the outside of the night before the wedding for carrie and big what in fucking christ's name does this future mayor of new york city want he's got a very important question because steve has set up cameras in what i would call a disturbing number of locations that the girls frequent in their daily lives.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And there's a big question mark over what Steve, how he fills his days when Brady's in school. And the answer is he's basically reviewing the footage. He's checking where people are going. He's keeping notes. He's analyzing patterns and behaviors. I do not like this. patterns and behaviors and he's got one question that he needs to put to the lift at vogue is the same guy who sold them
Starting point is 00:42:31 their penthouse apartment and none of them know what the fuck he's talking about because he's the only person who has seen this guy whatsoever yeah they can't connect the dots. He hasn't been sleeping a lot, so he's kind of lost his grip on what other people's perception of reality is and information they have. I can't help but observe an incredible crossover in the sort of information that Steve's consuming and the information that someone like, say,
Starting point is 00:42:59 Tim Batt has been consuming recently. There's crossover, no doubt about it. Hey, but what do you think of that question, though? Do you reckon it's the same? Tim Batt has been consuming recently. There's crossover, no doubt about it. Hey, but what do you think of that question, though? Do you know the guy I'm talking about? Unlike you and Steve, I'm just not quite up to speed with the imagery. In addition to the grandmother, the hands, the individual performance of one of the core four,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'm now also going to be keeping an eye out for this character on their way to the lift okay cool it's uh yeah it is i'm like 99 sure it's when she's in the vogue building and they even say i think there's some idea oh no it's not ad actually response someone says like congratulations and she just pushes past two people to get into the lift one of them i'm pretty, is the real estate agent. Oh, I felt okay in the middle of this episode, but just a dread of... Okay, time to get out. Knowing I'm going back.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Get out of the pool. The water's gone bad. But not before you give me a haiku to describe your emotional state right now and then I will do the same. Or I could lead if you wish. This movie is long. Life is very short. I know we have made
Starting point is 00:44:23 error. We have made... Error. This feels like bullying. Can you hurry up? Sex and the City. I need not watch this no more for i am a man we just have a good rhythm together you know he sort of feels me out i feel him out and uh we go for it

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