The Worst Idea Of All Time - 29: The Flash

Episode Date: July 28, 2023

The boys have done it right. Sat side by side, they've watched the dang movie. But have they enjoyed the movie? It’s a beautiful day outside in Auckland, New Zealand and the amount of time spent with the shadow of Furious 6 hanging over them has created a general restlessness. In what is surely an infuriating listening experience, the boys try to remember the plots of the F’s 7 through 9 to limited avail. Guy has lost money to Tim because he is shorter than The Rock, there’s a deep dive into the actor who plays Stuffy British Auctioneer and wild speculation as to what he might have been paid for his role.Support us on Substack to unlock video and bonus content: twioat.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The question is, would I like to have a beer with Patton Oswalt? It's a good question. These are plugged into me. Do you want them? It's just a nice thing. It's like, wow, Tim sounds really distant. Yeah. It's a fashion accessory at this point.

I don't know, man. Something about pattern. It's not an immediate yes. He's very... I think he's a good guy, right? Yeah, you'd assume so. I'd want to think so. But could be a long hang.

Can you say that? Yeah I reckon Yeah I mean you can say whatever you want You just have to be willing to stand beside it Or behind it You can say anything you want to Should we unpack it a little bit? Because Patton is a huge star Yeah

And his career's been amazing. Very prolific. Yeah. And I've watched a whole one of his specials. So I actually don't know that I can form a full opinion. Oh, as a stand-up. Yeah. I quite like him.

Like, the KFC failure bowl bit, that lives rent-free in my brain, man. It's an iconic bit. It's there all the time. I don't think I've seen that bit. Oh, really? Yeah. It's fucking awesome. It's really good.

I think he used to do it all the time because the clip that I've seen online of it is it almost sounds like someone in the audience gave it as a request, like at a karaoke joint for him to perform. Would you do that if you had iconic bits? I fucking did. This past, well, kind of.

This past weekend, I did a gig. I headlined, thanks for asking. Tim, did you headline? In a town with a population of 4,000 people in it. But it had a beautiful theater, the town of Waimati in the South Island. The Regent, shout out, Regent Theater. Gorgeous theater.

360. We didn't pack it but you know a few punters in it's a big size theatre for a 4000 person town I told this story about when we went to

SpongeBob SquarePants the musical on mushrooms in New York City and then a woman would not let me continue with my set until we all sung the SpongeBob theme

pants song together as a group and I tried to get past it a couple times and she would not until we all sung the Spongebob theme pants song together. Oh, wow. As a group. And I tried to get past it a couple of times and she would not allow me to. So we did. Well, that is sort of, I mean, that is insane and different, I think, to what I was describing,

which was like having such iconic bits that people would yell out for you. I got a genuine karaoke request. Lobbed at me for a song in the middle of a comedy show. That's a pretty different, you know, that's a very different thing. It is a bit different. And you indulged. I did.

You had to. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of forced into it. But everyone got on board. Was she pissed up, the woman? I'd say so, yeah. But you can never tell because the thing with small town New Zealanders,

or I think small town anywhere, they love to go to a bit of live something and they don't always know the rules. Yes, they don't. That's right. And they're getting involved. They want to be part of the show and God bless them for it.

But at the end of the day, we're kind of there to talk at them rather than with them. You've got to set a boundary. It's why they don't have a microphone. It's condescending to go on stage and say, do you know how this works? It doesn't endear you to them.

No, you've got to figure out a way to communicate that. Sometimes it's by being so funny that they will listen to what you have to say. But it doesn't always pan out. It's crazy, isn't it? I've always enjoyed that sometimes you say something and it's the funniest thing in the world. And then you can say the exact same thing

later that night or the next day. And it's like the least funny thing ever. No good. Would you hang out with Patton Oswalt? Do you ever bear with that man? Yeah, I wouldn't pursue it. But if it came up, I'd go along for sure. You wouldn't pursue it?

What if there was a chance that it could happen? I think I'm allowed to say that. Can I tell a little anecdote? I won't say who asked. I was on holiday in the South Island and got a phone call from a friend of ours who said Eric Andre is in New Zealand performing and wants to track down some mushrooms.

Do you know where he can get some? And I was like, yeah, absolutely. And I was like talking to Zoe, but I was this close to trying to figure out how to get back to Auckland so I could do mushrooms yeah, absolutely. And I was like talking to Zoe, but I was this close to trying to figure out how to get back to Auckland so I could do mushrooms with Eric. Yeah, yeah. You could be the mushroom man.

That'd be so sick. That would be good. This is why I hate taking holidays. Something cool always comes up when I'm out of town. Yeah, you can't relax. You can never let your guard down because there's always someone out to get you or an opportunity that is trying to miss you. The universe is always cooking, man. You can never let your guard down because there's always someone out to get you or an opportunity that is trying to miss you.

The universe is always cooking, man. You just... You've got to be in the lounge to get the meal. You've got to be in the... Dining room? No, you've got to be in the lounge on your phone at all times. You can't sleep anymore. Yeah.

You just can't sleep. No, you'll miss something. In Auckland, though, you know, you couldn't sleep a little. Yeah, you can go to bed. You can sleep from like 8 p.m. to, you know, you couldn't sleep a little. Yeah, you can go to bed. You can sleep from like 8pm till, you know, 7am. Oh, that's damning on us. 8pm? Nothing's happening after 8?

Monday to Thursday you can sleep. Sunday to Wednesday, let's say, you can go to bed at 8pm. Yeah, that's true. This time of year, definitely. Things happen on a Thursday here. Yeah, I mean, definitely. Things happen on a Thursday here. Yeah, I mean, something's just happening on a Wednesday here. We've watched Furious 6 for the fifth time. That's what's happened here.

I thought this was our last go-around too. I was kind of gutted. Yeah. I mean, we described the system in the last episode as faultless. Yeah, but that's because I did it this time you the only motion for error well actually you did it apparently but you didn't invite me to your calendar event and that's how

it all falls down that's right it's fallen over twice but you know we pulled it off we were both here and it was a proper screening we sat down we got it on the big screen we tuned in A sound bar, a subwoofer was involved I was mirroring my phone

So I couldn't go on that Yeah, that's good And it was Not painful, we talked About the movie, we talked about our lives We shared a movie going experience I said while we were watching That this felt like an early 20s to me

number of watches like it feels like we have now been seeing F6 way more than the times we had I think because there was that two week hiatus the mental amount of time the brain stretches back to to remember when we started watching it makes it feel

you know like it was over it feel overly familiar. But we are familiar with it. And I guess it's the cumulative effect of being in the universe for as long as we have. If not this specific movie. I was actually playing a little game with myself while I was watching that. I was trying to, from the end of F6 to the end of F9, I was trying to run through the vital plot points in the storytelling.

Oh, wow. Do you want to have a crack for me? Could you describe for me what happens in F7? No. Do you know who the bad guy is? Statham. Yeah. What else happens?

He opens on a hospital scene. Yeah. Shaw is in hospital and Statham is giving a monologue about how he keeps fucking up despite Statham trying to get him out of trouble all the time who knows what happens next

he puts bombs all through the place in the hospital? yeah he blows up the hospital oh yeah Joker style yeah it's actually quite a cool

opening sequence it's in London you've got a CGI Paul Walker wait a minute does he blow up the hospital because his brother's in the hospital he does

not that wing but like on the way out he blows up some other stuff oh no he throws grenades at people he doesn't blow up yeah okay in my head I was like oh yeah

because he blows up some stuff like whole buildings yeah with other Shaw Brothers doesn't this that's what I was picturing doesn't do that he throws some grenades around

so Stath's the bad guy Stath's the bad guy they collaborate with The Rock it's the introduction of Ramsey they go to Abu Dhabi yeah okay He doesn't do that. He throws some grenades around. So, Stace the bad guy. Stace the bad guy. They collaborate with The Rock. It's the introduction of Ramsey. They go to Abu Dhabi. Yeah. Okay.

Fast eight. Hit me. Oof. Our big bad is Charlize Theron. We're in Cuba. You're looking at me like that's wrong. No, that's right. Yeah, sweet ass.

The fate of the furious, man. I'm there. So, we've got a beautiful post-coital opening on Dom and Letty. You got it. In bed. And then Dom goes for a walk to get his baguette. Single baguette and a red rose in a bag. Which is... But his regular coffee shop is closed.

We're on tenterhooks every time that it's going to rip and he's going to drop it all. But he doesn't. She intervenes. We've got a remote control jet. She intervenes and they interact with familiarity, which betrays the fact that they have not come across each other so far. She should know him a lot. She's been spying on him.

And she actually cipher. Cipher? Does the name cipher get featured in F7? No. I think the carryover bit is Moses. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Jakunda. Who's not in this one. He's in 7 and 8. This is a 7 and referenced in 8 by Ramsay. Yeah. In 8. In Fate of the Furious.

Is Scott Eastwood in that one? Little Nobody? In what one? He is. In what of the Furious. Is Scott Eastwood in that one? Little Nobody? In what one? He is. In what one? Fast 8. Yeah, I think that's the one where Hobbes throws him against the thing because he threatens his family.

Yeah. Or he says, you've got a daughter. Yeah, Dom discovers he's got a daughter. No, you're not gonna do it discovers he's got a daughter no no no no hobbs but dom also discovers he's got a son oh yeah yeah that's true and i have a theory about that yeah hit me uh well we've tried to figure out the sexual timeline as to how elena yeah could be pregnant could be in This movie Like their relationship Ends at the start Of this movie

Basically If sex Yeah She's Then We get side boob I don't know if we've Talked about that

We have I've talked about it My bad Yeah I've talked about How I wonder if it I wonder if it means

You know We're gonna get more As we go backwards Yeah A nipple Cool That's what I've opined Something to look out for

So the relationship ends in F6 We get through all of F7 She is helping the rock in F7 They're working together Which we sort of see at the end of F6 And F8 is the introduction of Dom's baby Yeah The pregnancy timeline doesn't make sense F8 is the introduction of Dom's baby the timeline

the pregnancy timeline doesn't make sense so it objectively it would mean that at the end of F6 Elena is pregnant and has been for the whole movie we might have seen the time they fucked that conceived little B at the start of this movie

she holds the baby in for all of F7 she gives birth i guess in f8 uh and tells dom the baby says i think because he's so consumed by this idea of family more so than anyone else in the movies or arguably in cinematic history yeah i think if you track back to the start of f7 the rock and her get along pretty well In the workplace Go on We see her At the hospital Visiting him

She's familiar With his daughter Yes It's not explicitly stated But there's reason To believe That their relationship Is more than that

Of colleagues Perhaps even more Than colleagues Who you know Are quite fond of each other Go on I am suggesting The Rock And Elena Have Sex know are quite fond of each other god i am suggesting the rock and elena have sex unprotected

she falls pregnant with the rock hobbs's baby yeah and then for reasons that are still a little unclear to me tells dom the baby's his yeah and so bright and may not know for sure and brought well she must because of the timelines oh i guess a little bit unless hobbs at like she slept with hobbs and uh dom like pretty similar times although she didn't no is it i mean so we'd be banking on the fact that dom does isn't very good at calendar math either. Or Hobbes. Yeah. Which I'd buy. Yeah.

Yeah. Hobbes could be in on the lie. But why would he lie about that? It seems against his character that he would sort of deny. Yeah. You know. Do you think he's an honest man? Hobbes?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Painfully so. Yeah. Like to a point where you're like shut up about it yeah dude no one gives a shit i mean yeah so there are some holes but my theory is that uh yeah no i love it little b little b is the rocks baby yeah and uh maybe we're gonna have some questions arise about um what defines a relationship between a father and son and whether or not someone that you believe to be your biological child that you're raising as your own, if you discover later in life that they are your frenemies kid, whether or not that impacts how you feel about raising them as your own. They're still your kid. Yeah, of course. Just biologically speaking.

And I think Dom would wrestle with that. I think it's a very different Fast and Furious movie where we're exploring these topics, but it's an interesting one. It's a departure from the regular racing around cars surrounded by butt women. We've said it before and we've said it again. Now a butt woman has sort of given birth

to the central tension of the film. All the butt women who are at these big to the central tension of the film all the butt women who are at these big car and dancing parties in the fast and the furious franchise dream of um getting their hooks into one of the toretto family and yeah becoming a featured actor yeah extra to actor to star definitely handled because i know your brain was saying getting pregnant by dom toretto but you found a way to clean it up on the fly and I respect it. We don't know the deal with these butt women, but I would love to get a little insight into what's going on in their world.

I would like to interview all of the actors who play the dancing woman at the big car and dance parties and say, what is your character's motivation? Oh, they don't care. What was their day? I reckon they'll be professional dancers in real life these performers and like probably i imagine a tidy paycheck though i was because of the strike at the moment i've been uh seeing on twitter there's been some stuff pop up about like sag agreements for dancers and stuff and then it seems pretty ratchet really yeah man And then I get It's pretty rat shit Really? Yeah Man everyone gets paid Fucking nothing

It's bad Really? It seems like it Yeah You know The stars get paid And what everyone else gets shit You know

I've forgotten his surname But Adam ruins everything Adam Conover Yeah He's been very loudly You know Chronicling what's going on And he revealed that at his show He's been very loudly chronicling what's going on.

And he revealed that at his show, he got a $20,000 residual check for the year for Adam Ruins Everything. And I don't know if that was just writing, but if it wasn't, that's his show. Yeah. It's a lot of money, but there's not a lot of money considering these gigs are so few and far between.

Yeah. If that's what the star's getting, what what are the that's supposed to be like jackpot i've got a show you get a fucking annual residual for 20 000 and it's his show everyone else must be getting nothing like it's i don't know man i mean it feels like they've got a pretty good reason to be on strike right now what was the goal to get 100 episodes means that you're get syndicated syndicated different networks yeah and then that that i think triggers like good big residual checks every year i mean residuals don't exist in new zealand so no we barely yeah our union was um clubbed to death by peter jackson yeah everyone loves that guy but you need to read into it. Everyone. All right.

Do the reading. You think PJ would ever, do you think he's ever listened to an episode of the podcast? It's, it's insane that he is a union busting billionaire. And we're all like, our boy, we love him.

We fucking love him. Keep the fucking statues up to keep the models up at the airport. Yeah. Our identity is tethered. Get rid of that Eagle at Wellington. We don't need it. But know what you say that but you will feel its absence that's true we put something else looming in there that's sort of oh goodness what is it who cares who's it from uh joel vincent Comedian Yep Maybe a gig You're getting a gig? Fast 6 Right?

Mm-hmm Where do you rank it in the movies we've seen so far? Is it the best one? I can hear the clock ticking Well, it's a hard time to ask the question We should really be reflecting on these after the first screenings of all the movies. It's better than the last two. Isn't this more fair to ask it now?

You're going to get that juiced up first watch glow on the first go around. It's top two of what I've seen so far. You look tired. Wow. I'm talking to you. Yeah, you're making me think about it. You've got a deflated balloon feel about you all

of a sudden and i'm sorry i did that by talking about f6 no no we're here to watch it i'm like i'm treading through so much territory that we covered at the start of this episode but i'm trying to remember what i'm weighing it up against it's not f9 it's uh it's not f8. Is it F7? Stath's pretty good in F7. Yeah. The opening sequence is pretty good. Yeah. I think it's F7, then F6, then F8, then F9.

For me. I'm with you. And I'm not ranking Hobbs and Shaw. But if I was, it would either be one or two. Huh. It's that just because we only had to watch it once? Almost definitely. But that's all I can reflect on with it. Yeah's that just because we only had to watch it once? Almost definitely. But that's all I can reflect on with it.

Yeah, true. You've only got your experience. You're speaking from and of your experience. Yeah, I'm speaking from and of my experience. Yeah. You're speaking from and of your experience. I'm speaking for and of Guy Montgomery's experience. Do we share the experience of what we're doing?

Yeah, we do. And then inside of the shared experience, we each have our own individual experience. There is only a shared Tim and Guy experience. Or Guy and Tim, depending on which one of us you are. No, even for me, it's Tim and Guy. Why is that? Do you know for ages I could tell who had written what

because we would always put the other one's name first when we were writing pitch documents and stuff. I thought it was a nice detail. That is nice. But it is Tim and Guy. It feels like phonetically it works a little better. All right. Well, Guy and Tim, it's like there's a hill you have to climb over.

Tim and Guy, it's like you're going downhill the whole time. Why? Why is Guy a hill? Guy and Tim. It's like I and Tim, me and Guy. Tim and Guy. Guy and Tim. Do you know what I mean?

Tim and Guy. Guy and Tim. That Y is getting a bit of a short shrift in my name, eh? If you go Guy and Tim, it's like. Yeah, that's the problem, I think. Tim and Guy. It's getting caught up in the A of and. Guy and Tim.

It's kind of good to be second, actually. Yeah. Yeah, because it's the last thing to be second actually yeah yeah it's the lasting you know it's you remember it absolutely you think who was it and in psychology you have you know what is it list bias or something you remember the last item most and then the first item second best what about the the middle items? Fucking, it's all a guess. It's a guess. Throwing dice at that point. My shining light, thanks for asking. It's when the tank driven by Shore is crunching Roman's car.

And I actually think it might be the same footage, but they do a close-up of the tracks, tank wheels, grinding through the frame of this car. And it's very satisfying. Sparks are coming off. The tank action sequence still has some pizzazz and still has some sort of excitement value. The big never-ending runway in the aeroplane,

which I think is the seed from which the Furious franchise sowed such a strong relationship with planes and eventually rocket ships. I think we see the genesis of it at the end of this movie, but the action sequence is just deathly boring to me. I really have a hard time. What about when Giselle dies? That's sad.

It's really sad. And she does a great kick. She does like a sweeping kick across the top of the car. Gal Gadot to heaven. Well, Gal. Yeah, the tense is wrong, isn't it? Gal Gadot. Gal went to heaven.

Gal's gone go to the DC cinematic universe. Yeah. She was in The Flash. Yeah, she's also in Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman 1984. Is was in The Flash Yeah she's also in Wonder Woman And Wonder Woman 1994 Is she in The Flash?

Is she? She must be What the Ezra Miller one? Yeah Have you seen it? Yeah How was it? It's

Super weird It's like I want to watch it Very occasionally It's doing what it wants to Really well Yeah And then most of the time

It's sort of missing in a way That is actually almost enjoyably bad. Yeah. I heard the special effects are dog shit. It's CGI sequences are the worst. I heard the director say that like we meant it to be like that. Yeah. You got the feeling like it's so bad that it has to have been a choice because if it was that bad by accident or failure the studio wouldn't have

let it get released like it had to have been a we wanted to look like this like you know how the the there's a scratchier quality to the spider-verse films like instead of the clean sort of pixar style animation i think they were pursuing that in terms of like superhero cgi okay and also i think because the flash is moving so quickly To generate these memories and images It's meant to reflect like the choppy way I mean I'm guessing Yep yep yep Today

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Now playing This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing. But it doesn't work. No. It's like, it's an odd movie experience. Also, I went the day, I got into New York at like 8 o'clock on a Saturday night, and I saw The Flash at three o'clock the next afternoon quite stoned and fell asleep for half an hour through one of the sequences near the end which but honestly like that it's the sort of movie where that doesn't make a difference at all fine

yeah it's like and it's too long anyway and honestly it was one of the best naps i can remember having i was so tired oh boy um what's your shining light for f6 this watch well it was one of the best naps I can remember having I was so tired oh boy what's your shining light for F6 this watch well it was they're in London it's Dom it's Brian it's a pawn shop

which is also a slight criminal front I really didn't think you'd remember and they tring-a-ling-a-ling they open the door and there's a bell you know not like a digital bell but a physical it's very british this a physical bell that the door clips when you open it and the shot of the bell ringing is it's very unusual for the film because it's it's got a very straightforward sort of sleek action movie style. But this is a bird's eye view on a non-action sequence.

Legitimately a bird's eye view in focus of the bell being rung by the door opening. And I think we see the figures of Dom and Brian walk through. It's like a Hitchcock shot in F6. In another movie, it would suggest that the bell might have play some sort of significant, like that the bell might have play some sort of significant, like that the bell might be more than just. If it was any other franchise, we could view it as a metaphor.

You know, the toll of the bell. But I think the director maybe had like fallen asleep after that day's shoot, watching a YouTube video on filmmaking. It was like, you know what? We're going to make, we're going to do filmmaking in this movie. I know exactly what would have happened. Another unit would have got that. There would be some first aid team

in charge of getting some pickups and shit. And they put that in. And they would have been like, actually, we could sex this up a little bit. Why don't we pop it over here? I like my idea of a very tired director. I like that too. But yours is definitely rooted in reality.

But it's also cool because it's like there's this other person who's managed to get their sort of genius creativity snuck into the film. Do you think at the next meeting, at the next like, you know, when they're pitching to direct,

do you pitch to direct these movies or do they approach you? Is this Justin Lim? This one? I don't know. Me neither. Sorry. Does it approach,

do you get to pitch to direct or do they approach you? Fr pitch to direct Or do they approach you Franchise like this They approach you I would say The studio puts you on a list maybe And then you come in And give them your vision

For what you want to do with it I think I'm basing this Just on stuff that like Maybe Taika has said in interviews Oh yeah For Marvel You think Taika pitched To direct a Marvel movie

I think he did Yeah I think he did Like with Thor I think he did, like, with Thor. I guess so. Because it wouldn't... It might have occurred to them. They were really on the front line. They were, like, on the cutting edge for a second,

and they just sort of have lost it. Like, it was cool that they got him to do that. Yeah. It was smart. And it worked. Yeah. Didn't actually see Love and Thunder. Haven't seen it yet.

No, neither. Heard mixed things. Yeah, I did too. It's hard making movies. What can you tell me about Gecko and the mini train? Gecko's real vehicles, real trains for kids, learning for kids, toddler fun learning. It was uploaded three years ago.

It's got 2.4 million views. It's a 35-minute video. What Guy's referring to is on my smart TV. It's turned on my algo on YouTube now on big screen because every now and then if I've got to make dinner or something, I'll buff on a kid's video for Remy to distract him. I don't actually...

Oh, have we watched that one? I think, yeah. I think that one has been on. We've got a cartoon gecko and a lot of real footage of a train. I think it's quite profitable making um youtube videos 35 minutes is a long ass video yeah which is just an animated gecko telling kids about trains yeah kids love trains you don't even have to fucking animate that so there's there's a um a kit now shush

that's not gonna work but i'm telling my phone to be quiet. There is a children's creator on YouTube who is massive. He's like one of the biggest kids YouTubers on earth. And about 10 years ago, there was a video that he posted online of him pissing into his own mouth. And it only recently sort of resurfaced that this is the same guy wow yeah and did it uh we've watched one of his train videos oh no he did a big one on like farm equipment did it impact tractors this footage resurfacing of him giving himself a bubbler i think he had to address it so what is called a bubbler bubbler or did you just make that up the bubbler well it's a there's

a rugby league player who got caught doing it and it sort of stuck to them. That's good. Like it's, you know, it's just ideally, it's not something you want to accidentally, you know, like if you want to do it in private in your own time, fill your boots, but it's not something you want leaked. Which is an ironic choice of word. It is.

By mistake. The thing about this guy. Pun intended. He uploaded it himself. The rugby league player, a video of him got uploaded by a third party doing it. So many questions, isn't there? Did he know he was being filmed at all? I don't know.

He may not have known it was going to get released. It's a sports culture thing, I guess. Australian sports culture. Well, that and kids YouTubers, isn isn't it a lot of crossover there and bad behavior yeah do you think athletes have a responsibility to be role models somewhat do you think politicians do yeah definitely i think that's part of the gig Comedians? Nah man We're truth tellers Okay Actors

You're listening to Rogan again Actors? Nah Nah We've decided as a society that they are But I think nah It feels unfair to athletes For me to say that they are but i think no it feels yeah i mean athletes for me to say that they're

they have to be responsible back i'm i i think i lean probably too far on the the side of like just fucking let them do your job and yeah yeah and then let's stop paying attention to the other bits of what you do it's like there's a there's a certain it's how good you are at the thing right there's a certain i guess it's fame but there's a certain level like if you think about through the terms of an athlete it's like i'm sorry dude you're like you are so good at playing tennis yeah that you can't we kind of have to care about how you conduct your life now it's like i know all you've done is practice tennis it's all you want to do but you got so good there is a flip though where you get so good that so much people Have so much of their money Riding on you That it will Protect the thing

From getting out The danger zone Is in between You gotta You gotta get that Second phase thruster Going real quick Like you have

You have a breakthrough Where you're brilliant And you have to You know a lot of people With the instinct Is to pull back Beyonce might have Killed people

We'll never know There's too much Riding on it now. You know? Is there any scandal that could be released pertaining to Beyonce that would damage her? I honestly don't think so because she's so beloved

and has been by so many people for so long that the fans would just reject it no matter what evidence came out. I guess- They would just say, that's not real. That's what happened to MJ, I guess. To an extent, yeah, I guess it is, yeah.

I thought you were going to say Trump. I think for Trump supporters, that's a bit what it's like. Trump's the one who's like, who's throwing question marks about all this because he is, to a certain amount of people, just a mute, like, you could say anything about him,

it doesn't make a difference. The Rock's not there. No one in this movie's there. No. Do you think The Rock could get there? I don't think he could. Really? You think a scandal will always impact The Rock?

Yeah, I think so. You have to be... It's a very rarefied position to be in amongst the Bey's and the Michael Jackson's Taylor Swift is she up there? See Swift is an interesting one Because she's wildly popular but I don't think Like people turn on her

Her own sort of base seems to periodically Be like But she always gets them back Yeah but she has to like do shit to do it I think she's I don't know Swiftie feels different Lebr's, I don't know. I don't know, man. Swifty feels different.

LeBron James? Don't know. I don't know enough about the sports fandom world. I think a scandal could break that would damage LeBron James. You think it could? How bad would it have to be? Pretty bad. He's sort of unfortunate in the sense that sense that he has um being cast and embracing

cast himself as such a pillar of society and role model that like a small you know like a smaller thing could still damage him because the public perception is he's so upstanding do you reckon michael jordan was that for a bit too well there are like um he put himself michael jordan never made himself that much of a role model because the relationship between fan and athlete was different in his time true uh and he you know he caught a bit of flack for um gambling well for gambling he also famously said republicans buy sneakers too like when he wouldn't he wouldn't um align himself with any political movement or like...

Not wrong. He stayed right through the middle, so it was a bit of a different thing. The goal is selling sneakers. There was a conspiracy theory that when he retired to play baseball for a year, he was... He was gambling. Yeah, he was kicked out of the league for running up crazy gambling debts. Yeah, and potentially throwing games?

Oh, gambling on himself. Throwing games in America, if the longest yard is to be believed, people will hate you for that. Is that what that movie's about? That's why Adam Sandler's in prison. Or originally, what was it? Burt Reynolds was in prison?

Never seen either one. Don't know what it's about. Nah. Should watch it, eh? Have you watched Big Daddy recently? Nah. Nah. And that'll probably just about do it For our discussion of Furious 6 today I think

Well what's the clock at? I can't read it from here My eyes aren't good enough What does it say on it? It's 32 Oh yeah we've got time I wrote down something else Yeah

I'll check in on it There's actually been not a ton of F6 chat In this watch For what was the serious watch? It was a pretty serious watch. Oh. This again, it's more tangential, but the, well, first of all, I lost money to you, speaking of gambling during this screening.

I bet you $20 that I was taller than The Rock. Yes. The Rock, sadly, is 1.96. I'm 1.89, so I owe you $20. The same time though, I was wondering about the British man, the stuffy British man at the car sale who sort of is racist.

He pooh-poohs The Rock and Ludacris' credentials for being at the auction. Yep. And they get their own on him. And I wanted to know from you, realistically, I don't know the actor's name. First of all all name the actor

and then tell me another movie you think genuinely poo pal anthony poo pal and i want to know a movie like a movie he was in the nanny the nanny it was recurring but never got named he's in six episodes but it's spread across three seasons, his appearances. You think he was in The Nanny? He's Fran's hairdresser. That is... No, no, no. Prove me wrong. I will. Okay.

What about a movie? Give me a movie. He's in Jumanji, the remake. Okay. Yeah. He welcomes them to the game shop Where they buy the board game Haven't seen it But that feels

That's more like He's the door greeter F6 It's like A big toy store A big flashy toy store But then The board game is actually

In the secret room in the back It's not supposed to be on the shelves That's cool They find it And accidentally get the ability To walk it out of the store I'm gonna get the guy's name and get a movie i think his name is thomas withington nice and i think he has appeared in what's the genre i'm going for i'm trying to think of a british movie i think was it

what was the benedict Cumberbatch one about? Cumberbatch? Imitation Game. Oh, was that the one about, fuck, what's his name? Hold on, Turing, Alan Turing? Yeah. I think. He's in that.

Yeah, Tom Withington and he's in the Imitation Game. Okay, let's find out. The Nanny or the imitation game? I've got to go down to the... I wonder if you'd pass the Turing test. Jason Thorpe. What is the Turing test? If an AI...

I don't know this for certain, but it's something like if an AI can reliably fool a person of normal adult intellect into thinking they're talking to an adult. A fellow human. His name? Yeah. Is Jason Thorpe. It's a great name.

He's an award-winning actor who trained at Middlesex University, which included a student exchange at the GITIS Academy Moscow. Congrats on that. A Russian. He's a Ruskie. He's a spy. After leaving college, Jason, together with several students set up the theatre company

Backstairs Influence. Commies. All of them. Let's have a look at the filmography. Influences in the name. It was an episode of Ghosts, which is a British comedy show.

Doctors, The Banishing, Flack, The is a British comedy show. Doctors, The Banishing, Flack, The Witcher, Curfew. It was in Holmes and Watson, the John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell one. That would have been a good guess.

Imagine if he was in the Benedict Cumberbatch one. He's not. I've gone past it. Imagine that, yeah. You would have been pretty close with your guess then. I would have been, yeah. I would have been correct. A rare win for Monty A real, yeah

Are you attacking me? He's sort of, he's getting by This guy Yeah Wait, could you go back up, sorry What were the other ones? You see something real Oh, The Witcher

The Witcher's huge It's one of the highest He was in an episode in 2019 As Lord Ostrit Good for him He played in an episode in 2019 as Lord Austrit. Good for him. He played a butler in Holmes and Watson. That seems right in his wheelhouse. Yeah.

He's just a guy. Everyone seems like a butler in the Sherlock Holmes world, don't they? Yeah. He's just a guy who's doing his best. Thorpe. Jason Thorpe. With an E?

Yeah. Gotta be. Yeah. That's interesting, isn't it? He owns his own home? To us? Thorpe Jason Thorpe With an E? Yeah Gotta be Yeah That's interesting isn't it? He owns his own home To us? Do you think he owns his own home? I reckon he does

Yeah he does Would have got that Witcher money Would have bought a little apartment in London One episode of The Witcher? One ep? Is that all? Yeah Okay maybe not

Lord Ostrit? Sounds like there's lines Sounds like there might be a few you know he got in this one he was snobby snobby auctioneer man

how much do you reckon he got for this for your six I reckon it's five figures not six yeah I think yeah

it's it's not high fives either I think it's like 15,000 pounds you reckon one day two days you reckon one day two days you're gonna the auction there's an exterior and an interior yeah two day shooting i don't think

you're far off but i think you're a bit light yeah when did this come out 2016 yeah i reckon on that. This is a big franchise. Yeah, but like 40? 40 UIs? No, no, no, no, no. Why not?

How many people in this movie have lines? Well, there's the the team is like what? Seven-ish? Yeah.

Depending on how you count it. We've got baddies. There's about six baddies Yeah Thirteen There's a few like military hangers-on Yeah, that's true Then you've got like

Call it five The head of the CCTV footage That other British guy Early twenties Twenty-something Now some of these people are getting paid millions Not many, but a few The Rock

Vin Paul Michelle Paul I would hope so But maybe not Millions. Not many, but a few. The Rock. Vin. Paul. Michelle. Paul. I would hope so, but maybe not. But I'd hope so. Michelle, Vin, Paul and The Rock. Honestly, Stath probably got quite a lot for the after credit sequence.

Yeah. You kind of in your head relegate it to a different pay bracket, but it's the movie and it's Stath. What does Stath get for a movie? Fucking good question, because he's in some dog shit that looks like it didn't cost a lot to make. He's in the Meg 2. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of subconsciously

that I saw a trailer for. Half a mil? For this? Stath? No, to get him in a movie. Oh, yeah, I reckon. Sounds about right. Maybe a little less. It movie. Oh, yeah, I reckon. Sounds about right. Maybe a little less. It's kind of, yeah, I don't know. The economics of movies, man.

It's fucking crazy stuff, isn't it? Yeah. It's wild. Yeah. New Zealand, what do you mean? I guess inflation's impacted it. You used to be able to make a movie for a million dollars is what you got for your first feature.

But not anymore. Nah. Because it wouldn't go far. It wouldn't go far. Absolutely not. It wouldn't go far enough. Not with these fucking unions. Jesus.

Are you done talking about this movie? Wow. There's something about watching it in the middle of the day that I'm like, let's fucking get this over with. We're done here. It's a real nice day in a deep Auckland winter. It's been fucked for so long.

Everyone, one libertarian listener, it's been raining nonstop for nine months in the city. We've struck one and a half good days of weather. And frankly, I'm in a great mood. But me being inside watching F6. You'm in a great mood but me being inside watching f6 you were in a great mood it's dragging me down you were quipping because the sun's out saying all sorts of funny things but now i'm just stuck inside we do what we do best you even had a joke that you you thought you there's a bit where they're having the car chase in spain

and this is what happens now we do what we do best improvise yeah and tim was throwing out scene set up improv lines and that was just for us that wasn't even to share on the podcast he was saying what do you mean you're not a doctor or i don't know words to that it was like that yeah definitely but with a british accent yeah but that time has passed and i also think the time for us to talk about f6 has also passed so this I'm going to apply some in just like that ranking to this. Man, I wonder if those episodes have come out yet. We've recorded a couple if they haven't. So look out for that on your feed.

We're catching up. And subscribe to our Substack to get them first and the video version and ad-free. twiowat.substack.com and ad-free. twiowet.substack.com This watch I'm rating at 5 out of 10 stathes

in a room jerking off together. Oh, wow. I'll give it 5 out of 10. This feels like a 5 out of 10 movie. 5 out of 10 I don't know man uh chalk tops

good on you ten being too many believe in yourself zero being not enough come on why is it stars why wouldn't it be do you like

what do you like out of four out of five Out of 5 Out of 10 Or out of 100 Out of 5 Okay Do them in order

Out of 5's best Then Out of 5 5 out of 5 Out of 10 7 Out of 4 2

And 100 Out of 100 30 Which is higher than No it's not It's the lowest well done okay tim's right you're wrong see you later 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Today.

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