The Worst Idea Of All Time - 39: Je suis Charlotte

Episode Date: May 6, 2019

Tim got to watch the film with his wife this time and had a very passable time. Guy on the other hand is worrying his mother by his persistence with this podcast. The boiz chat about their dreams, jointly self-identify as Charlottes and discovering some very angering information about a particular Paddy-endorsed pizza chain.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he sort of feels me out, I feel him out, and we go for it. Hello and welcome to episode, I'm pretty sure, 39 of the worst idea of all time, season 4. It could very well be 40, but honestly, it doesn't seem relevant right now. I'm Guy Montgomery. The first person to talk today was Tim Batt, and I'm grateful for that because it felt like we were both just going to stand aside, you know, two polite gentlemen constantly ushering for the other gentleman to walk through the door first, refusing to bow to social pressure

to just take the first step. Not today, death. So inefficient, isn't it? Talk to me. How are you? I feel good. I had a really good sleep. I got to watch the movie last night in my marital bed with my wife.

At least most of it. Did that feel good or did that feel dirty um i was just so appreciative we watched uh we watched a movie on netflix and um and it was really early because it's dark here now very early at the moment here in auckland this time of year and um yeah we we stayed and we watched a movie on netflix and then i said, like, I've got to watch Sex and the City at some point between now and 10 a.m. tomorrow morning, Zoe. Do you want to watch the movie with me? She said, yeah, OK. I said, really?

Really? That is so sweet. It was very, it really set my heart on fire. Did she realize what a kindness she was doing you yeah i think so i definitely think so but she's a very kind person so she took pity on me and um and it was so great man it was like i felt very focused on the movie i felt like i was um getting the emotional beats that were hitting a little bit harder there was so there was like there was a lot was like there was

a lot of things that i i sort of noticed structurally about the film that i i hadn't really bothered to mull over in my brain before oh wow yeah namely namely yeah namely the fact that like this movie i think this is part of why it's so long pretty much every point of action that happens in the film this is how the movie works this is how sex in the city works like beat structure something will happen and then the gals in the very next scene will discuss what you've just seen transpire on screen so it's like there's this rule in storytelling, and especially with film and television, of show, don't tell. Which means, like, instead of explaining all of the story, just, like, show me what happened, right? So insects in the city, they make the bizarre decision to show you the story and then tell you after you've already seen it what the story is.

And I think that's part of the reason why this duration two and a half hours is hefty but it feels even longer than its runtime they've baked in the director's commentary but it's not the exact it's the characters to whom the story is happening that's it if you think about it they do it every fucking time like that's such a funny articulation of it do you know that but that's probably like the meat and potatoes of the show right to an extent yeah i think it is but it's just like in what other film do you see shit happening it's like well we'd better go to a local cafe or starbucks to discuss what we just saw it's wild it's no good it's great They should do that with, you know, modern movies, with superhero movies.

Oh, yeah, with the Avengers, just them getting a Coca-Cola afterwards. Yeah, and going, wow, we really did a battle. I don't know. Yeah. That's what they do. But there's the other thing. It's kind of like I get these are different genres completely, but it is what makes superhero movies so cool.

It's like they just go and fucking do stuff and don't talk about it. And in this, it is the complete opposite. Very little is done, but much is talked about. And also in superhero movies, often they have superpowers. So things that you can't do that it would be cool if you could do.

Yeah, I mean, this movie does have Brady. And seeing the characters do some of those things you're watching and you're thinking wow that's something that i might do if i had that power yeah and people love that do you feel like insects in the city though guy you're like oh this is how i would react if i was jilted at the altar uh i don't i honestly i have never bothered to speculate how i would react i would hope not to react like that because this week yeah i'm going to tell you my thoughts on that question tim and then i'm going to tell you a little bit about my watch okay great but um i guess you know immediately that's probably how i'd react you don't really get to choose how you

react to those sort of big defining moments in life, do you? Some reptilian part of your brain or existence. I disagree actually, but I want to hear you out. System override. I like to pride myself. I think I'm pretty good at self-care. So I guess I would identify if I need to be by myself or surrounded by friends and just

pursue that and then start taking it day by day i imagine i'd probably start running quite a lot carrie for how incredibly toned she is doesn't appear to exercise at all i guess they deem that not worthy um i think triple a sounds good although it can be quite isolating uh but so in short i mean i i guess yes and no is the answer but at the end of this movie today when big and carrie were lying in the in the uh wardrobe also i picked up a really nice uh bit of delivery from chris noth then when she goes she goes this is a really great wardrobe and he says thanks which i haven't noticed before but it's just a nice little real beat where it's like it's almost a laugh line it's a really nice wardrobe thanks you know it's ancillary to the bigger conversation they're

having but i was just watching that thinking i reckon this jilting happened a year ago is it really healthy for two adults to spend an entire year not talking to one another but just so entirely devastatingly hung up on one another for a full year like is that the healthiest emotional response to not at all and then it's crazy do you know what's even more fucked up is like you know that whenever you go through a breakup there's always those ebbs and flows it's it's so it's just like part of grieving for the relationship that is now over that you go oh fuck i wish i was back with that person and what carrie and big decide to do with that ebb and flow of the tide is uh tie the fucking knot in the middle of one of those emotional waves.

Like, bad decision-making, guys. What? Fucking hell. Where's your impulse control? Fallout and Sex and the City 2. There is no impulse control. That's the thing. Because impulse control often, you know, I guess...

I feel like you see a lack of it in terms of financially and professionally in this world where it's like they just indulge whatever whim they have, you know, I guess under the belief that it will make their life better or perhaps from a broader perspective the story better. But like, yeah, I think we've sort of stumbled into this observation at a similar time. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, so much time has passed. You guys have made no attempt to move on. I think we've sort of stumbled into this observation at a similar time. I just couldn't believe it.

I was like, so much time has passed. You guys have made no attempt to move on, but also no attempt to communicate the fact that you're both not doing that to each other. Like, you're both so emotionally damaged. I guess the only logical conclusion is that you wind up together. But just section yourself off from society. Stay in the penthouse and just stay out of everyone else's hair it's so you don't need to inflict this on the world carrying big it's absolutely not it's something they need to discuss as well like they i think

mattress pikelet king realizes that this is the ending that is required of the show, of kind of their relationship story arc. But he also recognizes that it's very, very bad for this to happen. And I might butcher the exact line verbatim, which I shouldn't be doing when we're approaching 40 watches now, but it wasn't logic. It was love. That's what Carrie says. And the band swells the you know the

string orchestra swells as if the magical life force of love itself has lifted these two kids up above the um the hardships that their relationship has faced and it's like i i guess except that there's no externality that they're fighting if they're fighting their own neuroses and inability to get this together like you can't just you can't just go they've experienced a year of pain which is they're doing as a result of something really bad big did which is their own doing and then wipe it all away and pretend they're going to live happily ever after it's very it's stupid it's very stupid it's a very bad and i think like actually dangerous representation of what romance is like that's the old disney version of romance and it's it's bad i think yeah and that might be a a place wherein it's not faithful to the tv show because I feel like the TV show at least didn't shy away from the fact that life is messy.

Exactly. What you've described to me, to use an analogy, it sounds like it's a movie where we watch someone looking in a mirror, punching themselves in the face for like 85% of the movie. And in the last 15% of the movie is that person deciding not to punch and in the last 15 percent of the movie is that person deciding not to punch themselves in the face and we're meant to be like wow but i would argue that they

do punch themselves i think them getting back together is the biggest self-punch you could have they shouldn't be together they're bad for each other no they don't make each other happy i mean this to me is the age-old argument because they should because otherwise they're out in the world like oh yeah yeah yeah we've talked about this before like they have to contain each other because it's very important that they contain one another it's very true so tim yeah i'm in austral Australia right now. I thought you were. I scheduled this watch for quite early in Australian time. I didn't watch it yesterday. The day got away from me. I had to do some shows last night.

I got home. I put it on, but I was too tired. I just fell straight asleep. And I thought, I'm going to wake up in time to watch this. Tim. I did not wake up in time to watch this yeah tim i did not wake up in time to watch this so i woke up at 7 a.m we were meant to watch it at 8 a.m australian time i thought i can't do that but there is a way i could make 8 15 a.m austam Australian time and I also found a way to compress the movie

to half of its usual run time at an hour and 15 minutes so I have just watched the entirety of Sex and the City in double speed Observations Monty, takeaways what was the, first of all let's start with the general shape and

outline of the watch how how was it just in broad terms there's a real sense of urgency on screen i'll bet and it's it's funny to see that and to think we're you know i felt like i was the only one who knew i felt like i was driving a car full of people who were on amphetamines and i was like it doesn't you know we're still not going anywhere guys everyone was racing around um it's really quite unsettling and then it becomes more unsettling when you settle into it and it becomes normal i was trying to film sorry I want to throw this out and see if this hits the mood. Have you ever seen Home Alone, the first one?

Of course, yeah. The opening sequence where the McAllisters are running around the house, getting ready for the flight. Was it kind of that? Just chaotic nonsense where nothing's actually getting done, but everyone's sprinting.

Do you know, I haven't i'm not that's too positive i i mean yes in a sense yes but also no because this is you know in addition to various other uh factors this is a it's you it's unique to see these characters who i've seen you know slobbing, just dragging themselves through this movie to really be like, all right, let's really get to work. Let's really get to work today. And I found, because I was like, I wanted to take a film of it, like just a little snippet to send you to represent how fast it was.

But I didn't want to send it to you before we started recording because I wanted to reveal that to you. But by the time I decided I wanted to do that, I had adjusted to the speed of the movie and all the videos i took even though i know they were happening in double time felt like they were normal speed to me and none of them were good enough so i kept deleting them jesus guy yeah uh yeah it was pretty it's pretty out it's pretty out there and i want to tell you about oh i don't know if i should but i'll tell you about when i woke up and really like it was a really weird sort of experience waking up and getting ready to watch it so i woke up from a dream i don't know

quite how it dawned on me with it i woke like i woke myself up inside of a dream to watch this and inside of the dream i had run into one of the stars of the tv show uh did you watch the nickelodeon show the adventures of pete and pete rings a bell it was two red-headed brothers i think both called pete and they would cause mischief. Right. It sort of, it was definitely a Nick show. I think it was on air like 90s. I don't know what it was, like mid 90s. Anyway. I ran into and recognized one of the brothers from that show. Outside his house.

And I said, hey, you're from the show the adventures of pete and pete and he said no i'm not and i said yeah you definitely are and he said no i'm not i'm absolutely not and by the way that show doesn't even exist whoa and i said i'm pretty sure the show exists and so like google the adventures of pete and pete on my phone in the dream and just this huge debate was raging online where people were arguing about whether or not this show existed jesus guy yeah i'm worried about you. And when the argument was happening, I was like, oh, I know who'll know about this. Cynthia Nixon.

And like started Googling her. And then when I was Googling her, I was like, hold on. Cynthia Nixon. And woke myself up and was. That is fucking crazy, dude. That's no good. No, I don't think so. What is happening in your brain is no-

I am very worried about you, man. That's not on. I went to sleep sober at a reasonable hour. We got to pull a plug on this fucking season, man. This is a medical emergency. Not yet. We got to get the plug on this fucking season, man. This is like, this is a medical emergency. Not yet. We got to get the kids out of the pool. Someone's taking a deuce in here and things are about to get very, very sick.

I've got more information to share with you, though. Off you go. If you were in the wardrobe runway show that they do in Carrie's apartment where they all try on their old clothes. were in the wardrobe runway show that they do in carrie's apartment where they all try on her old clothes it's very easy for us to sit you know on the sidelines and take pot shots at the at the moves they decide to do but what moves would you do um i love the importance with which you've you've sort of entered into this line of questioning, like it's a really big deal, I guess, what would I do? Probably an attempt at The Robot,

considering we're listening to the greatest hits of the 80s. Okay, that's great. That's a really strong offer. How about you? Well, no, let's say you have to do three takes. Okay. So, Mr. Roboto, say you have to do three takes okay so um mr roboto um maybe like try a moonwalk which i don't know how to do but you know i love that i love that it's it's uh it's a loaded move

yeah yeah there's a bit of there's a bit of nutmeg in that one. And I would also go, you know the song Walk Like an Egyptian? Yeah. Is that the Bangles? No, but I know the song. It might be by the Bangles. I don't know. I can't remember who it's by. I would probably try and put.

Because, again, that dance in retrospect probably hasn't aged terribly well, probably a bit dicey, but it's big. It's big. Yeah. They're all dance moves your ones yeah because i don't think i've got enough subtlety of form to pull off anything else this is that this is that this is that i know that they're professional actors and they're getting paid millions of dollars but this is the thing i was thinking about it watching it you know with the knowledge that they had to shoot these takes without anyone who was responding

like they're they're they're acting to a director or a producer who's just yelling out how the woman would respond yeah so weird like that's their job or something yeah so that they they walk out you know in their new outfit and instead of seeing say carrie samantha Samantha and Miranda there, Charlotte just sees a camera and a producer next to it going, okay, and now they're saying, take this outfit. And so she offers... You are really... Hold on, Guy. I've got to stop you down

because you're really like... You're crossing the streams now. Charlotte doesn't come out and sees a director and a camera. Kristen Davis comes out and sees a camera and a director. Look, if people can't keep up with the mental decay that I'm experiencing at this point in the podcast, that's entirely on them. Okay.

Do I have to spell everything out for this fucking libertarian ingrate? It's not for our sole libertarian listener at this point. It's more for me to check in with you that you have some stick still in reality and what's happening. I know. Because I feel like I'm losing you a little bit. I know where my bread's butter reality and what's happening i know i feel like i'm losing you a little bit and i know where my bread's buttered and it's in the kitchen i see but so that would be hard and so you know to have to offer up all these different takes

uh would be a challenge because i always get angry when i see the scene but then i was like well what would i do and i think it would just mostly be stuff with my legs oh yeah i'd do a big one with my legs just do some jumps skips and jumps and twists maybe a john cleese uh ministry of silly walks yeah sure why not uh and then i'd probably do a roly-poly and then i do i do one where i'd like i'd go behind the the the clothes that are hanging on the shelves on either side and i'd like weave in and out of them and pretend to get lost oh yep yep yep it's sort of poke your head out like yeah yeah oh now i'm over here oh now i'm over here oh well yeah i mean and i i think that that if we were to watch those 40 or 39 times in a row, I don't think those would look very good either.

I think that, honestly, what you've described, what we've just both thrown in, I think they're more interesting offers than what the actors took on the day. So I stand by our choosings. Yeah, nice. You've just triggered a memory of mine. I had a dream last night as well do you want to hear about it well i told you about mine so i simply have to listen i can't remember very

many details and it sounds like you very enthusiastically want to hear what this is what i have to say um i think zoe and i were on a holiday in america and i think we were in new york and uh someone said there's a Bernie Sanders rally happening outside and I was like oh man when else am I going to get to see Bernie Sanders and I ran out there so I could see him in real life and there wasn't anyone there except Bernie Sanders I think I missed the whole thing and for some reason like everyone had gone and he was just there sort of packing everything up but he was six foot six tall he was so so tall and i got to talk to him briefly that's so big that's yeah he was like a giant that's that's probably a subconscious representation

of the standing he holds in your mind definitely yeah i even asked him i said like how tall are you you're so i didn't realize you were so tall you never ask tall people that question they hate it oh sorry bernie sorry dream bernie yeah my bad i think you got away with it now here's an interesting thing i kept pressing zoe on uh the rankings of the men who was hotter and um at first it was it was quite fascinating at first she said that big was uh was the hottest guy and i was like really she was like yeah he's got great eyebrows and then she saw him again like properly saw his face and she was like oh wait no no no no no no no no way and then he ended up being kind of bottom of the list

so steve remained top of the the castle um far out went steve then to be honest to the surprise of absolutely no one i steve in my, is almost suffering from popularity fatigue. Where I'm like, yeah, of course Steve's the favourite. There's an oversaturation of Steve in the marketplace. But isn't it at least interesting to know that he's pretty much got unanimous number one spot from all that we've polled he's the only character given enough depth to like but not enough no it's because we see his butt we see his cute little push but i feel like we're given enough time with him to learn to like him but not

so much that they inevitably fuck it up and make him a detestable piece of shit even though this movie does contain steve cheating yeah i know it's a weird paradox of this movie yeah that he's the is he he's kind of the only well sorry big it's pretty cut and dry isn't it i was gonna say he's the only character who does something black and white very bad like there's no nuance to it but that's that's true of big as well. The way he does do something bad, but the way he takes ownership of it is commendable. Yeah, there's some redemptive features to how he deals with the whole thing. Whereas Big just comes across as kind of whiny, like a bit of a whiny dog. Everybody hates Big.

That was meant to be an approximation of the Everybody Hates Chris theme song. My man. I want to tell you something. Yeah. I spoke to my mum after the podcast the other day. What did Charlotte have to say? Well, you know how I was lamenting that she didn't have any sort of emotional response to what I was doing? Yeah.

She said, what were you doing this morning? And I said, a podcast. And she said, you're not still watching that bad movie with Tim, are you? And I said, yeah. And she said, why are you doing that? It makes me sad. So I've upset her. You've upset mom.

Not for nothing. This is not good. Not for nothing, my man. That's all I wanted to tell you. Do you feel guilty about that? No. She, like, you know, she still loves me. I'm glad she's got her hooks in.

She feels sad, not for herself, I think. She feels sad for her boy. Yeah, totally. Her strong, teenaged boy. I'm 14, bro. I know. I get that energy from you you are 14 you're a good 14 year old though you're not a bad one good as they come i want to talk about charlotte then we shall

how does everyone just accept that charlotte is going to eat pudding this whole trip. It is fucking bonkers. I was trying to probe Zoe about this because she is a doctor. I was like trying to get into the nitty gritty of what it would mean for a person but she wouldn't engage. There's the

lightest ribbing from everyone when she makes this decision. You're just going to eat pudding? it's the only thing that's safe but otherwise all of her friends are just like okay we're gonna continue with our holiday like that isn't the most insane fucking thing in the world to only eat chocolate pudding and then to just do it so brazenly so when they go out for dinner in the restaurant right they sit down before they've even ordered anything just as soon as they're given the menus charlotte just takes two little puddles of chocolate pudding out of her handbag it breaks one out and opens it up and starts eating it.

I mean, I know that they're in a hotel and so, you know, they can eat whatever they want. But first of all, that seems super rude to me. It's incredibly rude. And I mean, if you went on holiday, say you and three friends went on holiday and one of them was like, I'm just going to eat chocolate pudding. Hey, can I stop you there? I would love that. Sorry, go on. Well, I'm going to throw a hypothetical which might reduce your love. Oh, okay.

A friend of yours was like, by the way, I'm eating chocolate. I'm only eating chocolate pudding this holiday. Not even as a bit. Not even as like a, look at this crazy challenge I'm taking on. Can you believe it? I'm only going to eat chocolate pudding. But just as like a genuine decision that crazy challenge i'm taking on can you believe it i'm only gonna but just as like a genuine decision that they've made for themselves like you would you would cut that person off

because they're so fucking thick isn't that so funny that if you change the context to it being a personal challenge or some sort of bet they'd set for themselves i'd be so behind it but if it wasn't i would be so fucking furious that they were doing it that is pretty odd it is funny it doesn't speak well to where we're at no but i think we've forged um at least the component of our sort of you know comedy careers based on eating nothing but pudding there's there's kind of what this podcast is. Well, yeah, we are eating the chocolate pudding right now. Yeah. We are Charlotte.

We're up to our guts in it. Je suis... Wait, what is the French? Je suis Charlotte. Yeah. Yeah, there we go. We are all Charlotte. We truly are. But I would not have any respect for that person anymore.

And I, they wouldn't be my friend. But wouldn't you also try to intervene? Like these women are, and also this is an interesting thing I worked out last night. The age gap between Samantha and the rest of them is way bigger than I thought. Because Carrie is 40 at the start of the film. And I know that about maybe a year plus goes by, but Samantha turns 50 in the final scene. So there's like just shy of an entire decade

between Samantha Jones and Carrie Bradshaw. That's a lot of years. Yeah, but the older you get, the less that the difference in the age discrepancy in your friendships matters. Yeah, that's obviously in school that would be insane yeah but even 20 to 30 as friends you're like you know some 20 year olds are mature i guess yeah it's yeah i mean yeah 40 to 40 to by the time you're 40 to 50 it's

but yeah i know 40 to 50 is fine. If there's a... Put it this way. If there's a 30-year-old with a lot of 20-year-old mates, I'm kind of going, that's probably not someone I'm wanting to be friends with. Super sus. That's a decision that they've literally taken

into their own hands for you. No 30-year-olds want to hang out with me. Yeah, exactly. To me, I don't think... I know that they're all meant to be equal friends there's another weird thing about this show oh sorry my i just just say this real quick my original point with that is that there needs to be more intervention on each other's like it's weird when they choose to intervene and not the point where someone says

i'm eating nothing but chocolate pudding for this whole vacation that's when you i feel like as a friend can step in with some firm footing and go big intervention point and in the hypothetical i imagine if that happened on a holiday i was on i would not have brought along that friend a friend who i was good friends with would have brought along that friend and they'd be like i'm only eating chocolate pudding and i'd be like okay that's insane but i don't know you well enough to say anything you know but the thing is all of these women know charlotte well enough to say something along the lines of one hey charlotte that's a pretty racist attitude and two i'm not going

to spend any of this holiday with you if all you're going to do is walk around eating fucking chocolate pudding out of your fucking handbag you dumb idiot yeah it makes me so angry it's no good the thing is she takes it out when he's taking orders or whatever when they first run with the menus like a whole meal passes a whole round of drinks and a whole savory meal pass because we see other people's plates are full or like not full sorry but like you know they're empty half empty so they've been you know they've had dinner guess who's still sitting there fucking throwing back either the same chocolate pud which is crazy because that means that she has rationed one child serving of chocolate pud over a whole meal be fair we know she's got two because she snaps them off okay but this is the thing the the the

there's only there's no empty pottle there so she has eaten one they've cleared it away and i don't have the confidence to go to a restaurant and eat my own food in the restaurant and tell the wait staff to clear it away i would go to the bathroom and throw it out in the bin i don't think charlotte would do that but you know what actually charlotte wouldn't have a problem with them taking her away empty puddle but either i know i know you're digging your heels in with charlotte and she deserves some of that for eating nothing but pudding but she does pay attention to you know polite manners and social mores i i think she would try and figure out a plan to hide the evidence across and up i think she abides social etiquette but oh like none of the none of the characters in this movie

know how to carry them for how much time they spend in restaurants none of them have any idea how to carry themselves in a public space they've got no idea how to treat people in the service industry like i can't imagine how many restaurants they've been blacklisted from their behavior is appalling they treat it like their fucking lounge and they treat the white stuff like that you know like they owe them something yeah but anyway either charlotte has eaten one chocolate pudding very slowly over the course of a whole meal, or the equally disgusting alternative is that she's eaten two chocolate puddings. I mean, neither are good. No. Nah.

She's not all right. And I think we've given her a free pass for the rest of the season, really, because, well, at least I have, because I've always looked at her life compared to everyone else's, and she's got a loving husband, a good relationship with him. She's got a great dog, Border Collie, I think. Oh, no, wait, sorry, Border Collie. She's got small dogs. She's got a couple little dogs.

She's got a beautiful adopted daughter who she loves. She's got another baby on the way. Things seem to be coming up well for Charlotte. She's kind of, it seems like after going through a lot of trouble trying to find how to create the family she's always wanted, she's been rewarded with that, and she's in her little nest. And I think we have skipped over the fact that she's just fucking throwing down pudding at a rate of knots.

And that is to be, you know, judged. Well, I think I've taken issue with her. But I think it's because of how happy her life is. Like, her storyline suffers because of, you know, the contentedness of her character. There's nothing she really needs. And, like, something that we don't even know she needs she's given which is um maternal pregnancy i despite having not seen the show i have enough sense of the character to know that she went through a lot in the series to try and find she she's like she's one of those people i

think who desperately wanted to have a family always so she was always kind of searching for the right guy to kick that process off with i find it scary to see those people do you i think i used to feel like quite cynical about it but i i think i kind of i get it and respect it a little more now it's just like that's all good yeah what i'm saying is i guess even even in saying it now i've my there has been a little bit of more respect for charlotte instilled in me i just find it stressful because i'm like if you want this Even in saying it now, there has been a little bit more respect for Charlotte and Stilton. I just find it stressful because I'm like, if you want this thing so badly, there are parts of this that are outside of your control. And I find it stressful for someone to put so much value and need in something

which is beyond their ability to control all the deciding factors. You know when you see someone who all they want to do is fall in love and you're like, oh, this is really unnerving. Yeah, man. That is fucking terrifying, eh, when you meet those people. It's impossible to fall in love with that energy. I'm so scared of those people, man. And I guess it's a perfectly valid way to live,

but it seems very dangerous. It's like you say you say you're right it's very high stakes you're putting all of your chips on um on something you don't control and that's like you're kind of just asking for a lot of trouble when you do that so hey here's all my emotional stability i'm gonna throw it out and just the universe will decide whether i get to keep it or not. Absolutely. I feel like we're almost veering into, you know, Carrie Bradshaw, empty platitude territory here. But I totally agree with what we're saying.

Jeez, we're brilliant. I like that. I totally agree with what we're saying. That's good. We should put that on a mug The boys Are really getting there now They're talking sets

You know it only took 39 watches Of the same movie What was your shining light Tim? Are we up to 40? It's a good question My true shining light Was getting to watch it with Zoe Until she fell asleep

That's enough for me man Oh yeah yeah yeah that's really sweet great i was so jealous you're messaging me last night i was like not only is he doing his homework already but he's doing it with a friend oh and i think we've got a 100 hit rate as far as I know now on this as well. Every guest we have on, because they're all women so far, has pointed out the pearls thing, Carrie wearing pearls to bed. And lo and behold, didn't say a goddamn thing. And Zoe just went, why is she wearing pearls to bed? I said that early too. It's stressful.

She's going to choke. She is. Oh, and Zoe also fucking hated the ring she was like how much did that ring cost this is fifty thousand dollars she said are you kidding sixty thousand sixty thousand dollars no no it's it's 50 it doesn't get to 60 it's either 50 or 55 oh no it's 55 yeah it's more than 50 because that's sorry you're right you're right because samantha puts a bit on for 50 50. It goes for 55 to her partner to give to her.

I loved your Shining Light, man. I'm happy for you guys. It's a beautiful thing you've got there. Marriage? I respect it. Yeah, man. I'm pro it. I'm on the record.

I respect your marriage. I respect your love. I'll stop introducing the movie to it though. I don't want to tempt this beautiful thing. Jeopardize it. Rock the boat, man. That's what makes life interesting. My shining light was actually a Samantha line.

And it was one that I've not loved before, but there's something about it. I think maybe what it was lacking was I've not loved before, but there's something about it. You know, I think maybe what it was lacking was punch or verve. If you speed it up, it really comes into its own. It was after Lily answers the phone and says, sex. And Samantha says, are you sure that's not my child? Yeah.

And I was like, that's true to the character. Yeah. You know,'ve i've met people i've met friends of parents in my life who like you know who probably have based a lot of their personality or characterizations off of samantha isms where they're like they've always they're always throwing out quips you know and a lot of them if you listen a lot of them are nonsense like isn't it funny in the movie sorry not in the movie in life like you know people are always trying to do quips yes is a real there's not that high a hit rate you know they're just throwing out sentences you go there's a lot of

sorry there's a lot of people out there who understand the kind of um the mechanics of a quip and like the broad structure of what they sound of um the mechanics of a quip and like the broad structure of what they sound almost like the rhythm of a quip but the thing is with a quip is it's actually got to be a joke there's got to be sort of a second meaning or something behind the line something a little bit funny and a lot of people just throw out nonsense with the cadence of a quip and they look around for adoration and recognition that they've done a good thing no no no everyone's done it and then you know if you've done one and it's been nonsense all you do is you sit or you sit or stand there and you hope you're like please no one call me out on that i hope we can just all glide by like what i just said made sense it's so true it's so true you

know it's a terrifying moment but yeah it was a she she threw out a quip it made perfect sense it fit within her character and um i was into it that moment of waiting to see if anyone will get you is like the social equivalent of being shot down in the war and seeing if you're going to get captured as a pow it's like am i going to get out of this thing alive this is absolutely nerve-wracking this is my my pure survival we are talking it's just so funny i feel it less now but i remember when i was younger like in my head i'd think of a funny thing to say or you know like you know when you just don't back you're not backing yourself in conversation and you're like oh i could say that there no

and then i just sit there stewing i'm like i reckon if i'd said that it would have got a laugh you know i cannot i cannot even fathom a guy montgomery not throwing down because i've only known you as an adult and i don't even know what it would look or sound or smell like to experience you at a at a semi-confident level in a conversation i don't think it'd be any good it still happens because i'm not always in environments where i feel you know like i'm i'm confident you know i get i get cowed and intimidated um but no generally speaking i feel pretty confident to say what i think now and because that's because i agree with everything we're saying um so why wouldn't i say it i got very little left here tim do you know i'm so i'm really grateful i i told chelsea my partner, I was texting her, and I was like, I've had to watch the movie at hyperspeed.

And she messaged back saying, aren't you going to get in trouble for that? Do you know, I went on my phone super briefly to check in an email, and Zoe said, excuse me me is that cheating our fucking our partners are keeping this project on a stay it's so funny because i was like well i'll find out when i record but ultimately conflict is good for the podcast but i remember i remember the time like in in the you know the previous seasons of this podcast, I would be kind of mad about that or we would try and rectify that by next watch.

You have to do it half as slow and stuff. I know that. I know to our one libertarian listener, they may be baying for that slow motion blood in the future watch. Oh my God. We actually, I want to just briefly, before we end this episode,

I really want to put an underline under this, because we've kind of mentioned it a few times, but I don't think people appreciate it. Doing this twice a week has been so fucking hard, like, from an emotional and mental standpoint, and also from an organization point of view. I am in so much financial debt because i have to dedicate so much fucking time to this podcast now and like cleaning up the recordings and getting

them online and stuff and it's so great that we've got like you know some ads and patreon money coming in now it is not covering the time i'm putting in here i am going backwards as a result of this podcast it is like crazy how how like how much time this podcast takes now and and that is to say nothing of the emotional toll of watching sex in the city the movie two times a week continuously for months on end like it ain't good it's really not good this season has been palpably different so like there will be the odd time when guy and i have been on our phones a little bit or maybe we'll have to watch it at double speed on the odd watch because guy his body physically needs sleep to function like you cannot i just want to get out ahead of anyone being upset with us you can't be upset with us this has been a real struggle this season and i know we're not even

near done yet we're we're over halfway which is a great feeling there's lots of mountain left to climb but we need to be kind to each other to get to the finish line. If we are anything less than very kind to each other, our relationship will not sustain the end of this thing. This is the greatest challenge I've ever faced. Oh, man. That's great. That was a beautiful speech. And impassioned.

Also, while I'm on my fucking soapbox and i will i will save this for a friend zone which um i want to record with you very soon when we can carve out some time but it has recently been brought to our attention that blaze pizza is now advertising on podcasts if you work for Blaze Pizza,

if you know someone who works for Blaze Pizza, and I'm not talking the people manning the oven where you can get a flash-cooked pizza done in six minutes. I'm talking about the upper echelons. I'm talking about the people writing checks and forming marketing budgets. You need to send them our way because payments are due

and these debts must be paid. We need to mobilize and we're going to have more details on how you can do that very soon. And I want to remind you fuckers that I own blazepizza.co.nz so I held on to that. I renew it every year.

If you fuckers want to enter this territory, you come and you play ball. I tried to buy blazepizza.com.au this morning. Someone else has got it, which kind of bodes well for me because I feel like it might be the company and they're looking to expand out to here maybe. I don't know.

I will not part with this thing. You can pry it from my cold dead hands unless we start seeing some fucking checks the road to franchising in new zealand runs through timbatt and that is a road that is tough to get down yeah all right thank you so much everyone god bless you um catch you guys at the Facebook, facebook.com slash worstideaofalltime, or on the Patreon, patreon.com slash T-W-I-O-A-T. All the gods bless everyone except for the fuckers at the top of Blaze Pizza. Hashtag fuck Blaze Pizza, hashtag pay the boys.

Good night, everybody. We just have a good rhythm together, you know. He sort of feels me out I feel him out And we go for it