The Worst Idea Of All Time - 41: How to Date an RX7

Episode Date: December 17, 2023

Tim and Guy, together in room and opinion, have just had a most wonderful time soaking up the sights, sounds and cinematic experience of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. From the phenomenal racing sequences to the performances of Sung Kang (Han) and Brian Tee (DK / Takashi)—everything comes under the microscope for high praise. The same—sadly—cannot be said for Lucas Black's performance as Sean today, which is given some careful and thoughtful in-depth analysis. Tim runs us through the top five cars he would have sex with from the film, including a beautiful and vulnerable moment that sees Tim genuinely outlining how he would date one of the cars, which then just devolves into some lovely date night suggestions.All season 6 episodes available in bee-youtiful video form at TWIOAT.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello everybody and welcome to... It sounds too loud, don't you think? Distorted in my ears. This sounds normal to me. We're too loud? Okay. Hey everybody, it's the worst idea of all time and it's our second watch of Tokyo Draft and newsflash, the movie still fucking rules. Yeah, it was really nice.

Right afterwards, Senator Park, we got to come together, really watch it on the projector, you know, really soak it up for the movie it is. Yeah, watch it on its own terms. It's a piece of cinema with big sound and a big screen and the lazy boys, and we thought, you know what? This is living. Yeah, that's how it's meant to be

when you watch a movie with a friend. It's meant to be really easy to watch. It's not supposed to be on a bus, on a phone, with Bluetooth headphones in. That's not what movies are made for. Nor how movies are made.

That's true. You got me there. Not a lot of films made on a bus i wasn't trying to get you man um it was yeah it was it was an absolute delight yeah it was great okay here's the crazy thing about this movie tokyo drift right fast and furious tokyo drift the fast and the it's i think it's fast and furious tokyo drift here's the about it. The movie is so good that it is like a tidal wave of goodness that is carrying the very bad dinghy of Lucas Black and his acting ability. Because he is the lead of this film.

He is the star actor. And he sucks. But the movie still succeeds in spite of him the movie's fantastic and luke you know what i and i said to you while we were watching it you know lucas is doing his best yeah but that's irrelevant no no it matters he's doing his best you know in the studio someone thought they'd found a second wave mcconaughey and they got this guy plucked him out of high school in alabama presumably who maybe just crushed an audition i reckon he's 30 yeah yeah he wasn't plucked out of high school he's got like he's got my hairline and he's in high school he's constantly

wearing a t-shirt where he's got all his chest yeah he even goes in he's shaking down some um some guy for han to prove himself and to try and get money. And he's just got a towel on. You can see his whole chest and tummy. You've got a kid. It's the body of a very grown man. No one was rocking that in high school. No.

Never seen a rug like that. Never seen a build like that. That's like years, that's miles on the belt. He's not out of shape it's just no no no but there is a particular maturity of rig that can only come to you when you hit 28 it's crazy you don't get access to that kind of rig before 28 because they can work around it you know they know he's old they don't yet they know he's old they know he's kind of having a hard time you do not need to spotlight these hard bits it's part of the beautiful um era in which this film was made.

Because 06, we were still in that time when both television and films from America were still putting in really hot 34-year-olds. Being like, this person's 15. And you're like, fucking really? Are they? Yeah. You know, like Beverly Hills, 90210. I didn't have any idea how old anyone was meant to be, I feel like. I didn't have a discerning eye at all.

I was like, this is just what people were like. No, we didn't know. It was deeply confusing because I think as a kid in New Zealand, you're just, well, in the 90s at least, you were just awash in American media. We're like, boy, they build them old over there. Come out the womb Looking fucking 15 They age fast

Yeah There's just Something about In this Yeah What's that dog Rufus come here Come here

He's alright He's interested in the other rooms You know He wants to escape the Garage Sorry you were saying He's got to stay Rufus you've got to hear this man

Yeah come here This is important Dude Roof We're going to get on a riff Come up You're not too fit for this All I was saying really

Is um He He's out of his depth I think I don't know if he knows it But like It's a very challenging environment To learn about your limitations

As an actor Anchoring a Fast and the Furious movie that's dealing without its core stars. Yeah. And that's where you get put, that's where you're put under the most scrutiny. He just does not have X. He doesn't have what it takes to carry a whole movie.

He's just a very regular guy. He moves like we move. And people say they want to see representation and like what real people look like on camera lies but there's a reason that's a fucking lie like this i don't want to watch this guy do all the shitty to and you know i think it's a lot of face work or body work for him but he's fantastic in the driving sequences or maybe the driving sequences are just fantastic and they yeah lift his performance i don't know but i know what you're saying because he does look like he's driving in them he looks like he's driving we got a little behind the scenes information from vinnie bennett about how they at least later on in the franchise put these driving sequences together

and it feels very disjointed and quite challenging as an actor involving a lot of mind work when you're in these framework cars that they just put a bunch of cameras around it looks like they went old school with this and i know he won't be driving for all of these stunts they're too good but when he did when he when they got the shot of him in the car and he's holding the wheel on an angle and he's driving real intense yeah you fucking think that guy's driving i just think and even his character even Sean in the movie, he shows up he's talking shit, he just talks shit to everyone and everyone's so antagonistic

he gets to Tokyo, talks more shit he loses that first race, and then he gets taught to drift by Han, he doesn't just lose the race he fucking wrecks Han's car, it's a spectacular comedy scene, and also a very satisfying driving

scene yeah well yeah you don't often see it in a movie like you'll see someone lose you won't see someone fuck up the car that bad it's it is satisfying the only thing it's missing is a button from bow wow when he gets the car up there because bow talks a lot about how it's the mona lisa yeah he's to get up there and just tag it, being like, damn, you just shat on the Mona Lisa, you know, Sean, or something to be like, we acknowledge this is funny how badly this guy. Here's the button before we head off. Bauer is great in this film.

He is. I think, again, I say. I hate all the white people in it. They're bad at acting. I hate Tim Allen's son. Sean's no good. sean's mom is probably the best of a bad bunch his dad we were watching the scene today where it's just sean and his dad acting against each other and it's like oh no that looks like a rehearsal for death of a salesman

by a repertory theater made it so enjoyable it's like inside of the good movie enjoying like a good level of bad you know like yeah that's it's not when when he's with sung kang who plays han when he's with han yeah you don't notice that he doesn't have that x level charisma because han's elevating it and he's like carrying the whole scene it's when he's with a regular guy that he's meant to be carrying the scene because he's the superstar you're like this guy has like he's got no gas like this guy is just these are just two guys reading the lines to each other yeah and it's you know but it's it's actually it elevates the movie because it's kind of fun to have this crazy choice of casting and acting

performance peppered through like such a an easy movie to invest in and an easy movie to enjoy. Yeah. It's an interesting challenge for the audience. I think the thing with him is, so he's so good at driving though. After like three or four months, he beats Han and DK at drifting. While learning Japanese,

these guys have been drifting their whole lives. It's a very innate, he says there's no wax on, wax off. You learn by doing. These guys have been doing it their whole lives. In six months, he turbos his learning, even probably less.

He's like, that's how you drift. You know how he did that? Mindset. He changed his mindset. Really? Yeah. How did he change his mindset? You've got to shift I can't to I can.

Wow. You know who's got that in spades? Dom Toretto. Yeah, yeah. Almost like he's got impulse control problems. I mean, that's the undercurrent of the entire Fast and the Furious franchises. It should be called Fast and the Furious Impulse Control. Well, I mean, what is being fast and furious

if not losing control of your emotions and your impulses? It's so true. The name is on the tin i guess fast and furious impulse control would be like an edit where you take out all of the car scenes all of the moments when like things escalate yeah and you just strip it back to it's even less it's just like just as purely dialogue that exists in between the action sequences maybe it's a deodorant. Fast and Furious Impulse Control. Never Sweat Again. Yeah.

Never Sweat Again. It's a once-er. It will absolutely give you cancer, but you will never have to apply deodorant again. They don't know it gives you cancer yet. It does block all your pores. Anything it touches, it's like Gorilla Glue for pores. Yeah.

Imagine that. What's that stuff they put on windscreens? You know, to fix up a crack? Oh. I don't know what it's called. Some crazy sealant just does that for your pits. You couldn't use that on a person. I don't think so. They should make that. I mean, here's the thing. You can use anything on a person. I don't think so.

Here's the thing. You can use anything on a person once. They should make that for a person so it goes... Do it again. The graze or the saw just goes... And it just heals over. Not all the way. It leaves a little scar like it does on a windscreen.

So just instantly? Yeah, they should be working on that. Skin or something yeah do kind of with honey they've developed like honey um bandages i'll put honey on a wound it's not what i'm imagining instantaneous okay you want like a wolverine substance like a wolverine juice that's what they should be working on yeah they should be working on that it's important i'm getting freaked out by the ai stuff for the first time ever. Why? Because of that...

Oh, no, we shouldn't get into it because we should talk about the movie. But that guy got... Sam Altman. Yeah, yeah. Something happened, man. Yeah, something crazy happened. Something happened inside the company.

They've done something. Yeah. And then there was a lot of blowback and no one quite knows what the thing is they have invented or discovered. But it seems like it was pretty big. It seems like he came up with something and everyone was like,

whoa, that's pretty intense, man. And then they were like, okay, that's too intense. Why did? And then when he went away, he was like, guys, guys, guys, it's all good. I've got this. I don't give a shit. I'm going off book. But I was reading some stuff today that there's like a rumor.

Someone released a letter on Twitter, a guy with something of a track record for leaks about open AI, saying that they may have created some sort of AI that can break 192-bit cryptography, which is like military-grade way to lock up your data, which would, the inference of that is that this ai has basically created a new kind of mathematics that we're not aware exists because to brute force this brute brute force that on a computer like we have would take billions of years but the computer

might have figured out how to do it using a method we don't understand. And the guy, like, it's just some random people who came up with it and they have it. Well, it's open AI, so it's like, it's the guys, but. But, you know, anyone can get that. It's just a rumor. Yeah. Who knows? Pretty tantalizing. Something happened.

It's a real sort of, you know, it's an action generator for a movie. It sounds like something from this. Man, so many movies. Fast and Furious. Oh, wait. No, hold on. What did we watch? Was it a Bond movie?

What was it where the bad guy was an AI? Was that a Fast and Furious? What the fuck was that? I can't remember. Because I felt like we were at the cinema. Was it Mission Impossible? Yeah, it was Mission Impossible. Yeah.

It was Mission Impossible. Yeah. I love the Mission Impossible franchise Do you really? I do Man Yeah they're good I love Isn't like the first one

And maybe two Quite a bit better Than the rest of them? I haven't actually seen the second one The first one's sensational The third one Has it's moments It's like

You know it's patchy But what do you fucking expect? Yeah And then the recent one That first one's sensational the third one has its moments it's like you know it's patchy but what do you fucking expect yeah and then the recent one that last one was just dazzling what do you make of tom cruise man oh look the less i know the better yeah that's the decision we've all made hey yeah that's it that is a hundred percent it find that afterwards feel bad about it but i just don't need to know right now dude a lot of people are going to feel pretty bad about it yeah he's up to some stuff but you know there's there's no like it's great i mean i cannot imagine the pr machinery around them oh man it's like i can't it's like it's like something from mission impossible it must be impenetrable the list of people i will like you know fuck with not fuck with not talking any shit about is so small but scientology is at the top of the list they are number one yeah they are so vindictive yeah yeah and they go after

little people and they destroy them for saying anything we still don't know where shelly is man it's been like 15 years or something um i reckon that's enough fine we'll go to tim's top five cars he's gonna fuck please no i didn't mean to railroad what you were doing well i didn't i didn't really have i i the thing i think i was um finishing the wanting to finish saying is the internal logic i've built to believe why sean is the way he is why he is so good at driving he can learn to drift better than people the best drifters in tokyo have been doing it for years um i think it's not explicit subtext but in the world of the movie his character is like he's a freak you know he's got some insane innate ability that is unexplained and unexplored,

like a radioactive accelerator bit him or something. So he's got that to the extent that it drains other parts, other formative or important parts of a personality. important parts of a personality so it's drained like any career at the cost of just like having any emotional variance you know the cost of being that good at driving is you're being so generous to try and explain this guy's inability to act well wrapping it around a whole character yeah i think that's do you know what okay i'm glad it wasn't in the movie because this movie is an absolutely delicious 90-minute runtime. But what? You'll be pleased to hear it's even longer.

That's how tiny it is. What is it? I think it's over 100. Oh, shit. Well, there you go. Don't even tell those last 12. I think it'll be 104 minutes. Okay.

Maybe there was a storyline with his dad. This would make sense to me. If his dad was in the Navy and he was a real fly. We know his dad's in the Navy in the movie, but he's not really in the Navy. We don't think he's in the Navy. He's a guy. Hey guys, we don't think he's in the Navy.

We're basically in on a couple of things. Number one, the dude's wasted all the time. And I don't think you can be stationed abroad and just be shit-faced the whole time you're in the Navy. Tiny, totally independent shoebox apartment on the back streets of some suburb in Tokyo. It's not a naval base. He's not being put up there.

That's a guy on his haunches. We're introduced to him presumably ushering a sex worker out of his house surrounded by empty bottles i don't know if this is the guy you know like it literally that does nothing in the world of the movie that holds no value or storytelling utility it's just a little vignette they put in before you meet him they're like by the way winking basically at us this guy is not in the navy he's got a navy uniform don't worry about that and he wears it when he's drunk but it's a funny like bad thing to do is get a navy uniform probably from an army surplus store walk around your house you've missed some key intermediary steps get a naval uniform leave your family leave your young family in america

move to tokyo whittle away what money you have so that you go from living in a regular apartment to like you know i know not living quarters are cramped but like whittle it away yeah and just just drink the rest just put it on drink it yeah sit at those pachinko machines and just have a time in japan by yourself the only thing we sort of know is that he likes Japanese sex workers. So maybe that is the impetus for the move rather than a restation. He quote-unquote works in. The Navy thing, he's wearing Navy t-shirts and stuff. It's like a big part of the self-built identity.

You're wearing a... Tennis. Oh, is it? A Nike wearing a um tennis oh is it like a tennis i genuinely thought it was a golf top well you don't you know you're not a professional athlete are you you're just wearing the gears not yet not yet and one of them isn't like um illegal dressing up like it's pretty funny how hurt you looked when i announced to you that you are not in fact a professional athlete. I'm working on it. It's not illegal to pretend to be a professional tennis player. It's not illegal to pretend you're in the Navy.

Surely it is. I don't know. I don't know. You can't be a cop. You can't pretend to be a cop. Isn't that stolen valor? Isn't that what? Yeah, but that's not a law.

That's just a shitty thing to do. The government's not going to come... Well, I don't know. It depends on the context, I guess. If it's in pursuit of doing something... They take it so seriously. It feels like a crime. Yeah, it should be a crime.

I wonder if it is a crime. It's the military. They love that shit. They make laws too. It's their whole thing. They love making laws. It would be so funny if you were subject to martial law If you were impersonating being in the military

So you're a civilian But by like pretending to be in the army The army police come after you And you get like court martialed Strippers You know bachelor parties everyone's yeah yeah sorry military police come and just bust a bunch of i railroaded two things you were saying who gives a shit well i was interested one of them was about the um the dad in the navy but the other one

which i think is important we get into, is the top five cars. All right. I'm just going to do them real quick. It's at the bottom. It's number five. It's Dom Toretto's Dodge Charger, which is in the last 30 seconds. Oh, when Dom shows up at the end. Yeah.

You'd like to, I guess, you know, you've probably got a bit of a longstanding relationship with that car. It isn't the first time we've met, and it won't be the first time we've fucked. So that's that's that do you do you i mean i'm sorry to you know i know you said you want to get through them but do you um i mean how do you even contact this car it contacts me what hey what's up i'm in tokyo yeah it was sort of like run into each other in tokyo yeah oh that's nice and what are the odds in tokyo of all places you're gonna take advantage of that there's so many people in tokyo yeah so then you and then you you message afterwards you know hey what's up you want to hang out later

yeah yeah that's great where do you go pokemon store okay is that a date there's a date it is in japan it is if you're both in Tokyo and you don't live in Tokyo. That's true. And I say the Pokemon store. It's like a big building. Yeah, yeah. I know. Yeah, yeah.

When you said store, I did imagine like a kiosk. Huge. It's big. Yeah, I'll bet it's big. Pokemon? Yeah, it's going to be big. It's pretty big. It's big in Japan.

People love it. Very big in Japan. Number four, it is in the movie Hopefully And if it is It's there for about six frames But there is a Nissan Cube In the Shibuya Square scene Is it parked?

No wait It's before that It's when they're in the I think it's when they're racing around the tunnel Yeah When they're all in the tunnel And they're zigging and they're zagging Before Han dies in that sequence

there's a Nissan Cube there's my number 4, I want to have sex with a Nissan Cube, just to know what it's like hard out, big time have you ever even sat in one of those? no, I haven't, have you? no, I would genuinely quite like to own one

wow yeah, that honestly checks out that makes so much sense you know still you know like learning to drive learning to drive a nissan cube is so just perfect for you it would be what are you gonna do with all that is there a lot of storage huge because it's the whole it's this whole thing is it looks so crazy because it is a small car but you've got so much storage you're feel like a spaceship in there, I guess. Real capsule energy. Yeah.

What are you going to do with a Nissan Cube? Go to a lot of flea markets. Sell vinyl by the crate load. Have a collapsible table. Put it in. Have a pretty sizable Bluetooth speaker. Put it in. Yeah, yeah yeah really taking advantage

of that storage space figure out a way to hook up a record player to a car battery okay wow so you're really experimenting with the car on the date yeah yeah yeah i feel like if you it wasn't the date that's why i'm buying in the thing. Oh, I thought that was how you- But actually, that's a phenomenal date idea. Yeah, I thought that's how you were seducing the Nissan Cube. Well, I would go to a flea market with the Nissan Cube, but I wouldn't have a store. That feels like they're just helping me do work.

Yeah, yeah. I thought for a first date- And you're not going to get laid for that. Honestly, for a first date, it felt remarkably intimate. But in my head- It's not intimate. I also thought um it would if you were in the same cube it would feel good if someone just put like a crate of

records in your in your boot you'd be like that's nice you reckon yeah why because it's just it just feels like the right size it just feels like it would fit in there with a lot of space for other stuff you know just comfortably yeah safe secure held that's so nice man the number um three on the list today is um who's driving this is this that's hans car hans uh 1997 mazda rx7 that is um it's a bit of a hero car In the film Yeah So I'm not I'm not surprised To see you go for that It's a It's a classic Sort of

You know Sexy automobile It's ambitious For me Yeah There's no doubt about it Okay How do you make first contact

Straight up You just gotta go straight up Because it's like what Bow Wow says In this movie That you know You go into these Japanese clubs

And there's all these Beautiful supermodel Looking women Who are they gonna talk to it's like what bow wow says in this movie that you know you go into these japanese clubs and there's all these beautiful supermodel looking women who are they going to talk to the little guy makes them laugh because all the other people who are there are too afraid to talk to them and that's you with this car yeah i was trying to think of a funny line to open with and nothing came to me but i feel like in the moment there would be enough things to draw upon that i'm gonna just nail it well i feel like you choked like in a no pressure situation yeah you're not wrong it's not like it doesn't work well but am i am i at my best right now i don't know i think you're you're in charming form all i could think about when you said

bow yeah i've still fucked it yeah yeah but i'm still attracted to you okay let's go that's important but i was thinking about bow wow and, and I think what's so full on, I knew Bow Wow, Yippee-Yo, Yippee-Yay. I knew him in Mike. Didn't really know him in this, but I knew him as a young kind of musical movie crossover star. Yep. And then basically the next time I saw him,

and this is why I think it can be a challenge if you're a child star, but then the next time I saw him this is why i think you know it it can be a challenge if you're a child star but then the next time i saw him was when we watched fast nine and it's like he looked you know he looks older than people who are that it's probably our age he looks old older than anyone he looks old and it's because the last that he's seen into my memory as a kid yeah so it's full on when it's revealed that he's old now because you think i am i too am old now it's you know it's revealed that he's old now because you think, I too am old now. It's confronting. Oh, wow. So it made you sort of recognize your own mortality seeing Bow Wow grow up

through the Fast and Furious franchise? Yeah. Damn. But almost, again, because we've done it backwards in reverse time. What's kind of crazy is how exactly the same the older brother from Home Improvement looks. That guy looks exactly the same. Well, yeah home improvement looks that guy looks exactly the same well yeah for a movie that's for a movie that's set in like 2019 when did home improvement stop

shooting like 98 i would say so i guess it would have gone early 2000s maybe do you think this is 2006 if home improvement was running while 9-11 happened, I'll eat my hat. Because that doesn't feel like a compatible timeline to me. I have to get to the bottom of that now. I'm so glad that you care. I'll Google it. I'll just talk to... today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody and here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately

borderlands now playing i'll talk to the mess when did home improvement end? Is that the question we're looking for? It does. Fucking crushed it. It couldn't have existed in the new millennium. It absolutely couldn't. Isn't that perfect? It's like they knew.

The way that years work and the intellectual, the mental association that 2000 has with something. The mental model that you have of decades and time and chronology. There's no way home improvement could exist after 2000 2000 a fly in the ointment of history if home improvement had a 2001 like subplots on its wikipedia page you'd want to like you'd want to go into wikipedia and delete it yourself yeah big time but luckily we don't have to because the show knew what it was and that is a 90s sitcom. What about a home improvement episode? When do you reckon Step by Step stopped?

Earlier. Do you think? 98. I reckon Step by Step could have been 2000, but not 01. Didn't really fuck with Step by Step. Step by Step end. Show about step-peering. Oh, you were right. June 26th, 1998.

According to Wikipedia. Suzanne Somers, RIP. Really? Yeah. Who is famous to us for her book that is mentioned in Sex and the City. Also famous to me, she had a show on Nickelodeon called Figure It Out with your host, Susan. No, Susan Somers, not Susan Sarandon. I remember. She was on Nickelodeon. Not Susan Sarandon. I remember.

She was on Nickelodeon. She had a Nickelodeon show. That's buzzy. She would have been 50. She felt younger. Not that much younger. She would have been at least 40. I wasn't running numbers.

No, but it's just like they put kids in charge of the shows on Nickelodeon. That was kind of the thing. The Amanda Bynes show. Sort of RIP. That was a great show. That show rocked. Tell me about... All that.

All kids. All that was great. And then Susan Summers got a show. Keenan and Kel. Keenan and Kel. So Keenan and Kel is the opposite of... No, Keenan, sorry, from SNL and Keenan and Kel. He's the opposite of Bow Wow.

Yeah. So I probably met them as a fan at the same age okay keenan i watched get older so it's a very natural um sort of you watched a mage yeah it's a very natural progression it feels like of course yeah that's what you look like bow wow you're not the uncle who lives overseas and didn't see them for exactly years and you're like jesus you so but it's like it's crazy because to me kenan is ageless even though he's a lot older he's like i'm like oh he's still i still see the child's face in him because i watched it grow up all the way through his life maybe or

maybe he looks young he looks pretty good for his age now and he looked kind of old for a kid so i don't think he's changed that much there you go Here's my number You didn't finish seducing Hans K Yeah And you actually You've got You've got ground to make up Okay Well

Here's what I'm doing with Hans K What are you doing Could you let the dog out While you're up Thanks guy He's scratching at the door Oh that's a nice idea I haven't

I haven't hit this yet. I'm kind of, the well of date ideas is drying up a little bit because we've been through a few movies now and also I've suddenly started answering these requests on Instagram around the same format. But do you know what we're going to do? We're going to go to a puppy shelter and just play with the dogs for a first date. I think there's a lot to be learned there about how, you know,

sort of sensitive and playful someone is around such a vulnerable, cute animal. I think that's going to be a very grounding date. For a car that looks like that, I think that's going to work really well. It is a car, isn't it? You're right Number two Were you imagining a person just then No

2003 Nissan Fear Lady Z I mean what's not to love Firstly It's the coolest looking car in the whole movie Remind me It's DK's car

Yeah Takashi's car Who's that actor It's black coolest looking car in the whole movie. Remind me. It's DK's car. Yeah. Takashi's car. Who's that actor? It's black. It looks like that. The actor who plays DK is just outstanding. Yeah, he's fucking awesome. Him and Han are like sort of the breakouts to my eyes. He's great because even in the bits where his job is to just look really tense at the windscreen while racing crushes it

yeah every line delivery great there's a look he gives crews great too yeah so his like um right hand man whose name i don't i don't remember i don't know if we get it he um he's got like orange hair he's sort of he instigates some fights he has a race he loses a race to uh to sean and when he he he gets know, we are to assume he gets killed before Honda is in the same sequence in a tunnel. He's part of like a huge crash, like five or six cars. He starts it with a head on. It's pretty crazy.

Yeah, that one is, it's kind of like at the, sorry, you get your point, but it's at the very start when Tim Allen Jr. and his girlfriend are in the car and they go directly into a concrete pipe and you're like they're dead yeah that's a big crash but the air the airbag goes so yeah yeah and he i mean this guy actually he does a great you're right he is also a fantastic actor he he gives everything a lot like the emotion when he loses the races a lot huge it's all quite big but it really works yeah and um i've lost it it's gonna

come back though he crashed he crashes oh it's actually this is to credit dk you know i just can't stop crediting these actors yeah then when dk drives past and the look he gives through the window at like what is assumed why he's still got this sort of insane bloodthirsty mission on his hands yeah but he like he manages to pack so much grief and mourning. The idea is friends there while this is happening as he drives past. Looking through the window, it's like a very short frame.

Beautiful. Honestly, the pure emotional core of that performance is just out of sight. Fantastic. Five bags of popcorn out of five from Guy montgomery yeah for that actor um it's called a fair lady it's called a nissan fair lady this is the car he drives we're going to the musicals baby oh wow bit on the nose or lovely a little bit but it's one of those ones where again this car is so hot yeah they're like it's kind of i think it's used to either two things from men one hearing

the most dog shit cheesy lines and number two just men fearing it because of its raw sexuality so i'm like we need to approach this laterally you and i we're going to the theater the musical theater yeah it's nice actually nice to go to a live show isn't it it's a different thing from going to a movie yeah the whole thing's alive

it crackles with energy yeah movie's good too yeah but a movie you kind of do experience separately a musical because you're kind of

more lit up you can give each other more looks you're participating in anything that's live there's more of a like a sharing of energy between the two people

stand up stand up's in between it's live but it there's more of a like a sharing of energy between the two people stand up stand-ups in between it's live but it's also kind of isolating your experience individually i think in a way that you don't with the musical stand up there's too much pressure to listen a musical you can kind of still have a good time and like yeah stand up if you do that you know well yeah i don't know if you want to talk during a musical not talk but just be like can you believe this you know can you believe this guy that's talking yeah yeah yeah yeah that is talking i guess yeah you traditionally communicate with a look anyway it doesn't go well the date yeah yeah yeah we do not have. Do you have a good time at least? Not really.

Why? They're not into it. Yeah. Did they think it was kind of lame? Yeah. I sort of felt pressured into saying yes because I was so forthright. Oh, dude, dude, dude. No, no, no. Crazy to say no.

Enough said, that's awful. But they came and it was bad. Yeah. Good story, I guess, with time. Number one, Bow Wow's car. The Hulk. Yes, the Hulk. It's a Volkswagen Torin.

I had to look this up. Bow Wow's name is Twinkie in this, by the way. Referenced in Fast 9 for the Fast and the Furious heads out there. Twink's done it. Actually, not referenced, introduced. They do a callback to Fast 9 for the Fast and the Furious heads up there actually not referenced introduced they do a callback to Fast 9 in Fast 9

which is set after this movie like pretty soon after in terms of years kind of immediately after like probably

two, three years later Bow Wow Sean and another guy whose name I don't know they're all like three years old and they're living in germany building rockets yeah and they look completely different have aged they are so old now because he's 17 in this so he is 20 in cologne building rockets just looking like a like the 44 year old stepdad man that's his vibe man yeah it's uh it's such a nice thought what happened to those kids like you know what is

their movie between tokyo drift and fast nine because they don't exist in the franchise except for those two movies like What happened in the intervening What aged them so dramatically Here's what I was trying to fucking figure out That bit where Dom pulls up To Sean Lucas Black Texas

Bama Boy Bad actor Don't we see that from a different angle In one of the other movies That exact moment So then we should be able to track the exact chronology Oh yeah But what I'm saying is

I don't even know if it's three years Like I think that might connect right the hell up It makes it The way that Vin's talking about I guess you know Because Han is alive in the franchise They're about to discover Han's still alive in Fast 9. So he would show up at this point and be like,

man, Han was a good guy, Han. It's a damn shame he's dead. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It makes sense that he would pull into town and be like, fuck, it's a damn shame Han's dead. Yeah, it would.

And it makes a lot of sense now in F9, where they have the scene in the big bunker, where Han walks in and dom's like what the fuck because not only had he heard he was dead he went to tokyo kind of looking to see what happened and he was like yeah this guy's dead and the flashback friend is dead dom's like in the flashback dom's yelling talking up to um lucas he's on the ground floor and lucas is like two floors up on a on a car park hey that's what you're thinking of no i was thinking of the bit where no where han walks in no sorry sorry i was um that we were both talking about the same thing the other one i was trying to remember your memory from before oh okay it's a bit all over the memory

map sorry all right i've forgotten how to read these things we are trying to seduce Bow Wow's crazy It's a great reveal Bright green V-dub that's got Hulk hands on the sides Embossed What's the opposite of embossed? Because they're popping out

Puffed out in the middle And then also a chunk has been taken out of the The boot Like a Hulk smash And then there's a chunk has been taken out of the boot. Yeah. Like there's a Hulk smash sort of thing. And then there's a bunch of Hulk figurines in the front. Very fluffy interior. I guess is that in reference to the fact that Bow Wow is kind of little? Is that what that's about?

Well. Or the car's kind of little? I guess the car's got a little body and a big personality. And we could say the same for Bow Wow. Yeah. He refers to himself as little in this movie yeah I think it's

it's a it's you know show me the car and I'll show you the man well and I mean listen right until this movie came out

we all knew him as little Bow Wow yeah like that is what there was his name when do you choose to drop a little I mean

pay attention to when he did it because it's then probably 16, 17 wayne's still little true is there is there a little john yeah he's still little is he no i mean a name john it's hard it's harder isn't it because if you drop the little on wayne or john then you're just john or wayne but if you drop the little bow wow you drop a little on Wayne or John, then you're just John or Wayne. But if you drop the little bow wow, you drop the little on little bow wow, you're still bow wow. You're still bow wow.

It's very difficult to go from little Wayne to Wayne. Yeah. Wayne's nothing. Sorry, but it's nothing. The SEO on Wayne, Wayne music, you just lost everything. Wayne rap. Why? Because you're going through puberty?

Also, Wayne? You're a everything. Wayne. Why? Because you're going through puberty? Also, Wayne? You're a rapper named Wayne? It is hard to get away with. You better chuck a little in there. It's kind of nice of him. He suits it, though. So me and the V-Dub, the Turin. I feel it's disingenuous to call it.

Even though it is a V-Dub Turin, it is so specific. Yeah, yeah, sorry. It's almost disingenuous to call it even though it is a v-dub tour and it is so specific this car i know i'm trying to bring the audience along a little bit because if i say bow wow's car you kind of don't know what i call it the little hulk or something the little hulk that's what it is it's the little hulk we're going on a vineyard tour nice i okay i see why this one's last. I've got a really good feeling about this, Tim. Yeah? Yeah. Sick. How's it going? Well, it's a pretty big deal because the Hulk's never been

on a vineyard tour before. Are you in New Zealand? Yeah, Waiheke. Okay. We took the ferry out. Lovely. Which is nice because it's the first bit. It's a beautiful day. Yeah. A cracker. Yeah, yeah. Get out on the water. And then we get to Waiheke and we hit the first one immediately.

Yeah. Try the whites. Yeah. They're good. Great. That's good. And the thing is, neither of us are big wine connoisseurs. We both like our piss, but not in a hoity, highfalutin way. So we sink a few.

We're enjoying it. But what we're really enjoying is getting to know each other, the atmosphere, the beautiful surrounds, being waited on. It's kind of nice. The atmosphere, the beautiful surrounds, being waited on is kind of nice. Just spending a bit of money acting flash for an afternoon while the sun's out and getting a bit sozzled. Nice. Going from grapevine to grapevine, learning a little about things.

The mini-hulk could do some good little Hulk Camouflage work amongst grapevines Because it's predominantly It's green and purple And then by the end of it We have got quite a lot of wine in our bellies We head back on the last ferry To get back into the city And we go clubbing for a little bit

Wow Yeah we do On K Road That's impressive Endurance date And then guess what What? Tim and the Hulk smash.

Oh, wow. What a sweet way to say something so disgusting. I'm going to fuck that car, guys. Yeah, yeah, you're going to fuck it up real. I'm going to fuck Bow Wow's little car. That's lovely. Well, I'm really happy for you, Tim. I felt like you had to take some knocks on those dates. And so it's very gratifying when good things happen to good people thanks man i really

appreciate your support in this endeavor of me having sex with as many of the fast and furious cars as i'm able to i would like to um if i could just you know uh insert you know my two cents i'd like to go on a date with the um the subway cart that carries um these accessories to murder yeah the two sean and and mila after the sort of accessory to manslaughter i'd like to have a conversation with that subway cart about what the vibe was like right you could call it a date it could just be me going out with a subway car just being like what was it like they seemed fine this is um like hans died han just died he just blew up they've done this for not i mean and the driving montage is sensational the the stuff

through i would actually i want to look up and i will how they film the shibuya crossing stuff it must be digital no they must have done it with the cars and they put the people in i reckon it's real i know that it's really hard to get a lot of the um that race sequence was filmed in la it's really hard to shoot in tokyo i'll bet there's fucking tons and some of it and they walk and they showed up and just filmed some of it until the police would come and then they'd shut it down really and justin lynn found out after the fact that the production had hired a fall person a fall guy who they would say this is the director and they would get

arrested and spend the night in a cell and he found that out after the production finished that producer deserves an Academy Award for producing That's so good, eh? That's incredible Yeah Shit, that's good That's really wild that like a blockbuster Hollywood movie Was shooting stuff on the fly without permits

It was 2006 slash 1920 It was a different time That's nuts That subway car, yeah, if those walls could talk They'd probably go, hey, you guys need to go visit a police office. Yeah, you are, at best, witnesses of serious interest. Yeah, which just happened. A car exploded, man.

What? Khan's dead now. I would like to do, while I remember, is share my shining light with you. I'd love to hear it. It's a part of the movie we've barely spoken about today, which is a testament to the movie. There's just so much to enjoy,

so much fat to chew. But it's in the opening sequence, Tim Jr. from Home Improvement, 1999. So this is in 2006. Seven years later, he does still look young because I'm pretty sure he's getting older as a high school student

at the end of home improvement. He might go to college. Yeah. He's back in school. I think Mark goes to college, and I'm pretty sure he's the middle kid. That's crazy to think. He's like, Sean and him are getting into it. They're puffing their chests out about whose car's better or whatever,

and he's like, my mom's Buick or whatever could go faster and that piece of shit you redneck and then he's like what about your dad's viper he's like my dad's viper this thing goes from zero to 60 miles in what 4.3 seconds and then all of his footballing buddies like his henchmen and they're matching people you know just like yeah yeah yeah that sounds about right yeah like yeah real hard up on the sound mix like four or five dudes saying to each other yeah that sounds about right. Yeah, that sounds about right. Real hard up on the sound mix. Like four or five dudes saying to each other, yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah.

Really nice. And as you pointed out, Big dudes rock moment. Big Taylor Lautner and Grown Ups 2 energy. Big like kinship between the fraternity and Grown Ups 2 and these boys. It's the frat boys. It's so the frat boys.

They would get along so well. Yeah. They would be mates. Or they frat boys. It's so the frat boys. They would get along so well. Yeah. They would be mates. Or they would be enemies. They would be dangerous mates. Or they'd be immediate. They would beat the shit out of each other on first blush. And then they'd be the best of friends.

Because that's how you get initiated into this fucking idiotic group of young men. Yeah. My shining light is there is a public payphone. You don't see a lot of those these days But get this This one The handpiece is cast plastic And it is bright green

Fuck it's cool It's cool I mean Yeah Is it of a time or is it of Tokyo? Or both? I think it's of Tokyo man I mean probably both because

does this shit have more color they got is everything colorful um no that isn't would that i mean from memory it's been a few years but it didn't strike me as like everything was kind of that cut it's i think it's more just like that they fuck around that phone would stand out even in tokyo, yeah, yeah It's a lovely phone But it's not like No one in New Zealand would think to fuck around With having a green phone You know what I mean?

Yeah, you'd do it for like a week New Zealand sucks In some aspects Yeah All our buildings are these Horror Bad, bad, bad It's not even interesting brutalist

It's like The most boring They picked the most boring architecture From like the worst era for architecture. And they committed hard. And most of them are leaky anyway. Like they're not even functionally good. And they look like absolute ass. At least if you're going to go that direction, go all the way to like Soviet.

You know what I mean? Like make them. Swing big. Kind of interesting and symmetrical and yeah too utilitarian but there's one it is unique to us every it's a very unique miss you know like it's it's it's very been to a few different places no one does it quite as bad as the way it looks is very unique i can't think of a place that looks worse than like downtown Wellington. With its fucking buildings.

I actually I'm quite forgiving of Wellington. It's the terrace, that Bowen Street bit. It's all just like, who fucking designed these? These suck. Oh, the light went off. Well everybody, seems like that's about our time. I wish I'd... No, it doesn't make sense time I wish I'd no it doesn't

make sense I wish I'd started this by saying a joke about a moth you know anything that we oh well

look we need to tell you that we've got a live show coming up on the 15th of December and we couldn't be more excited about it

that's right we're gonna there's a real sense of lightness now as these films accelerate to the end and they become more to the roots of the not our franchise but the franchise uh so it's nice to learn about these beginnings and we can't wait to celebrate by screening the fast and the furious a movie i cannot remember seeing uh and then doing a live podcast afterwards as we reflect not just on the film but

on um i guess cars yeah you know not disney's cars the concept of little c no tm yeah yeah and you can join us on a live stream as well the tickets are hopefully on sale right now as you're hearing this i'm scrambling trying to get them up trying to get them on sale but if you live in auckland much like seducing a beautiful mazda wrx7 uh yeah i'm trying to get it up hey it's um if you are in auckland they are under the radar and it's going to be a great show and tim is going to fuck a car live on stage. He told me. I wasn't allowed to announce it. He's going to do it. Cats out of the bag, everybody. Come see Tim fuck a car

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