The Worst Idea Of All Time - 43: Emmanuelle: The Musical

Episode Date: October 25, 2021

Tim has failed to source the Japanese-released Emmanuelle Sex, Chocolate & Emmanuelle so instead has found a heretofore unknown entry in the series: Adventures Into the Woods: A Sexy Musical also known as Emmanuelle in Wonderland. By far the least pornographic of any Emmanuelle these boiz have seen, it's a welcome repertory theatre-style, musical film with some occasional nipple. Borrowing elements from the Brothers Grimm, Sondheim's Into the Woods and Shrek, Emmanuelle finds herself solo through a wormhole in a fairytale land wandering through every single character you remember from your childhood. Original music, choreography and some very ropy performances from our triple threat actors make for a escapists dream (if you're closing out on watching almost every Emmanuelle ever made). Today we also discover Tim has never seen a single Shrek.SUPPORT US ON PATREON: (patreon.com/TWIOAT)JOIN US ON FACEBOOK: (facebook.com/WorstIdeaOfAllTime)VISIT THE LITTLE EMPIRE PODCAST NETWORK: (littleempirepodcasts.com)MUSIC CREDIT: Tender Moonlight (facebook.com/TenderMoonlight)ART CREDIT: Tomas Cottle (sick-days.com) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Music Music Music Music Music Music Hello everybody and welcome to a surprising new episode of the fifth season of The Worst Idea of All Time. Guy Montgomery, hello. Hello, Tim. It's not just a surprising episode, it was a surprising couple of hours to spend on a Sunday as a man who sort of thought he'd washed his hands of and walked free from the Emmanuel Through Time franchise, if not because a Japanese only release is still trapped behind a paywall. Let me talk you through this journey, Guy.

under paywall. Let me talk you through this journey, guy. It was brought to our attention that there is another Ali Hayes driven Emmanuel through time movie called, uh, I think Emmanuel and the chocolate factory, which is a, um,

Willy Wonka parody and the manual through time series. Now, my understanding is that this movie was only released in Japan. I was provided by one of our dear listeners two locations to get it, which were both Japanese websites. Makes sense. So I yesterday went for a big long walk during lockdown to go and find a prepaid credit card to purchase oh wow because

i didn't want to trust my own visa credit card to a website that i couldn't sort of understand the translation of or put a lot of faith in because i'm not aware of you know the website's pedigree so went on my big journey got myself a a Prezi card, which is a Visa thing, came home, went through, used Chrome because it's got a built-in language translator, followed through some broken English that I could sort of ascertain as to navigating to a rental period. And then it turns out that on both websites that I was provided to obtain this movie, it was to rent a DVD, which would be posted to my address in Japan, a place I do not live.

So it was all for naught. However, while doing this research and trying to find if there was any other location I could find the Emmanuel and the Chocolate Factory movie, I stumbled across these Japanese translated titles of the Emmanuel Through Time series. So you remember Emmanuel Skin City? Yeah, I do. Well, the transliteration in Japanese is Skinless City, which is not quite the same.

No. There's also Emmanuel Sexy Twilight, which they did not call it in the English version, I think, for copyright reasons. That is a title that does its job, though. Yes, absolutely. Emmanuel, what we know as Emmanuel, what was it, Naked Agent 69 in 0014 or something like that,

is known to Japanese audiences who wish to observe the title in English as, for some reason, Emmanuel Humiliation Reward. Oh. Yeah. I like the idea of there being sort of a reward for surviving humiliation or as a motivation to get to the other end of it. Yeah. It's nice that you wouldn't just get humiliated for nothing.

You're going to get a payout as a result. There's Emmanuel Paranormal Ecstasy, which was, I can't remember what the English one's called, but it was like ghostly sex times something. And then there was Emmanuel Insert with Unknown, which I was like, what the fuck is that one? And it turns out that was Emmanuel Forbidden Pleasures, which was the big mashup one that we watched about third in,

which we should have watched as the wrap up, because it was basically a flashback episode to all the previous movies in the Quintology. Yeah. No, Quinn's five, isn't the previous movies in the Quintology. Yeah. No, Quinn's five, isn't it? What's seven? Septology? Sept.

But this may not even be a Septology because I was basing that on the movies we knew about. I stumbled into this whole other one, which was Emmanuel in Wonderland, and I was like, I wonder what one that is the translation of. And it was a movie we hadn't even seen, Adventure Into the Woods, which is like a sort of slightly parallel to the,

I don't even know if this is canonically part of Emmanuel through time, but it does reference it. And it is starring Ali Hayes, who is our Emmanuel in the Emmanuel three time series. Yeah. It's certainly, it's an interesting one isn't it it's sort of a bit of a hobs and shaw situation within the fast franchise because it is undeniably related like it features all the same featured players and even top and tails it

with the your traditional time traveling blimp setup yes but it is an altogether different kind of movie and i would almost argue genre of movie yes like and it sort of it casts a new light to look through the entirety of the emmanuel through time franchise because this is an out and out musical this is like i did i i i um i'd say i can't remember the number eight or nine songs like maybe more and i would i would say one sex scene yes which is actually told in a song what is um painfully clear in this movie is that this was put into the hands of someone who genuinely just wanted the opportunity to make a musical and finally was given a little bit of resources to make it happen because after the first 20 minutes the emphasis on little bit

well do you know what to their credit they figured out how to use the fucking green screen in this one. Because one of the early scenes where they do an Alice in Wonderland-style entrance into this musical universe, they have Emmanuelle, she eats a muffin, right? Yeah, she's got two options, eat me or drink me. Which is the same as Alice in Wonderland. So she eats the thing, and then she grows very, very large in her room, and they pulled off the effect. Yeah, and can I say, sexiest part of the movie.

Really? Nothing I love more than seeing a giant nude woman hemmed in by a little room. That really gets you going. Really spins my wheels. And then just as I was getting excited, they took it all away from me because she drank the potion. And she didn't just shrink down back to regular size. Oh no.

She shrank down so teeny weeny. And the way they did this, they used a great perspective trick where when she was giant, she was holding a key which became tiny. And then when she was small, she was holding the same key, but the key was no longer tiny

the key was giant she was smaller than the key this is some Peter Jackson level Weta Workshop style visual effects to bring us into this magical world it does have the feeling of a movie that was made in between Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit

you get the sense that some of those top dogs at Weta Workshops were looking for a side hustle so Richard Taylor was like we've got all this compute power sitting at our disposal and nothing to throw it at what's that someone involved in emmanuel wants to make

a musical we're in yeah so i didn't know this movie existed obviously and you you came across in your travels while you fastidiously and nobly tried to track down chocolate porno. And you told me we'd be watching it, and you said it looks like it could be a bit of fun. And I put it on, and I immediately, the first thing I observed was the one hour and 38 minute runtime, which is only like, you know, nine minutes longer than all the other Emmanuel Through Time franchises, but there's a psychological barrier that made it feel a lot girthier. there's a psychological barrier that made it feel a lot girthier. And I settled into it. And honestly,

I think it might, it might be to do with them abandoning the porno angle entirely. And like, also just, I mean, what I'm trying to say is that I enjoyed it the most of any of these movies. Like I really, you know, great,

great, great, great. I'm so glad to hear that. It really recontextualized the rest of any of these movies. Like I really, you know, right. Great. Great. Great. I'm so glad to hear that. It really recontextualize the rest of them because it's like, it changed it from being a rag tag group of like, you know, actors in Hollywood trying for their break through the medium of erotica.

And it's sort of like, it made me see the audition process and all of these people, you know, if if they're being cast across an entire series of films or a franchise of films and they're like so we're going to do one of these one of these one of these and we're doing a musical number all of these people were triple threats these people didn't just go into an audition room and like read some lines and you know talk about how comfortable they are having sex on stage they sang and they danced. These are triple threats.

They suck, they fuck, and they perform in musicals. Yeah. And it wasn't just the screen talent that you saw. It was the backstage stuff. It was the production. They actually went to the trouble of recording these songs properly, an unparalleled level of audio competence. I could hear everything.

But it made like, in terms of the featured players, the people that we're seeing, it felt like a real either high school or repertory theatre style musical. You've got a lot of the secondary actors are recurring as different supporting roles in the background of big song and dance numbers that are afforded to a few of the actors and like do you know what this was go emmanuel through time

is all out of money and they're going to shut us down unless we can put on the best damn talent show this cinema going audience has ever seen and we are going to fly so close to the copyright law son you would not believe it this movie i wrote down some time codes actually can i can i play some stuff while you're talking oh yeah absolutely this movie like you know it's like someone because into the woods is referenced in the title i think which is a which was a broadway play that got adapted into a hollywood film and like in the sense that it's a musical and she kind of spent some times near a bush it is a bit like that but this is mostly like shrek check this out I mean, I don't know if George Baker is alive or dead,

but he must be spinning in his grave. The most interesting thing about that is that was the only song that they decided to make like an out-and-out. I don't know if parody is right, but where they were like, this is the blueprint for the song we're doing. We're doing Little Green Bag, but it's about a little blue dog. And all of the other ones seem to be like Emmanuel through time originals. And I was going to ask you that.

Did you recognize any of the other songs? Because I didn't either. And I just figured I must not know what they were. I thought that too, but then it was too many. And then, honestly, I think it made this one the worst song because it punctured the reality of the movie. It reminded you that other music and other people performing music exists. And you're like, oh, oh.

And that they weren't afraid to borrow at least once from an existing. If they had just done that, if we had meatloaf numbers in this yeah it would have been so good which i actually thought they did once or twice i was like this sounds like it could be a bad ripoff of a meatloaf song but like in this movie we traipse through every fairy tale fable children's story film like it feels like the producers could remember and probably get their hands on from a costume shop yeah so i wrote some of these down so into the woods this guy alluded to is a steven sonheim joint that he and steven sonheim if you don't know him he's like broadway royalty he did sweeney todd west side story um and he did into the woods which is a musical mashup of the Brothers Grimm story.

So there's like Rapunzel characters, Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk. So this kind of takes that framework of kids' stories, but not just from Brothers Grimm. This is grabbing like Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood. The Big Bad Wolf is in here doing blackface for no reason in particular. Jack and the Beanstalk, I think, is in yeah uh jack and the beanstalk i think is in this jack and the beanstalks and the jack that they have in this movie is like they have his backstory is filled out by every jack that you've heard of as a child so he's jack from jack and the beanstalk who's also jack from jack and jill and his mother lives in a shoe like they're really cramming a huge amount of

pre-established backstory into all of these characters and i guess because copy i think we spoke about copyright law recently weirdly i guess that they have rights to say like to label them as certain members of these characters like because in other ones, there's a Kermit the Frog in it, but they call Kermit the Frog Kermine the Frog. Well, yeah, because Kermit's going to be copyrighted up the wazoo. That's going to be protected. But these other things, I don't know. It's like these are adapted folklore tales, so I don't think that –

Humpy Dumpty's in this movie. The Tin Man and the Scarecrow are in this movie. Well, yeah, Wizard of Oz is different because, like, the Wizard of Oz is, you know, it's not that old, and a guy definitely wrote it. Al Frank Baum or something like that. He, you know, that's probably under copyright somewhere. And then also, like, Wizard of Oz,

they also kind of allude to Wicked, which is also a source of inspiration, I think, where you're showing the parts of well-known musicals or intellectual properties that aren't shown in their most known telling. The point being, this has been made by someone who loves musicals. This isn't a musical who has been made by someone who loves musicals. This isn't a musical who has been made by someone who isn't familiar with the genre and doesn't have their favorite show.

This is someone who is into Broadway and wanted to make their own one and used the Emmanuel pornography series as a vehicle to be able to achieve this. And I've actually not written down their name. i think it was a woman's name from memory but it was like i do remember at the start credit seeing the normal kind of names that we were used to and then this other person i was like that's that's who they got in that is the person it's amazing because they like truly they get so they like truly they get so attached and waylaid by the musical element that like

this is not a porno Mr Goodstein I found it there's exposed body parts but they're not sexualized they're purely incidental the emperor's new clothes are in this at one point Emmanuel uses the emperor's new clothes

to talk her way out of prison because the guards like you're in prison for indecent exposure. And she's like, no, no, I'm wearing the latest and haute. Like I'm wearing a fancy outfit. And then he's like, ah, yes, so you are. It was rad. That rocked. And then he gave her a coat because he got.

Not everyone has the same eye for fashion as him. He got tricked. He got bamboozled by- Emmanuel was like, do you love my dress? He's like, you are naked. And she was like, no, no, no. Only idiots can't see the dress. I'm wearing an elegant dress.

He's like, oh, yes, of course. No, it's fantastic. And then he says, but, you know, some of these other guards might be too stupid to see the dress. So I'm going to give you my coat. And it is a woolen coat. And then they go to the next frame and she's in like a PVC fake leather coat. It's like, okay, guys, all good.

I found the woman, by the way. Esther M. Goodstein, I believe, is the person who put their musical loving fingerprints all over this. And she now owns something called the goods which is in los angeles california i don't know what the goods is but she was at click productions for many years as a producer which is um great click productions it's the house that made this um i yeah i mean i loved i loved that it wasn't like i loved you know one of the criticisms i've had one of the frustrations i've felt with some of these has been that it's been straddling the line between genre parody and porn and i love just throwing one of those out the window and saying

we're doing this and i also love seeing how far this like production stretched itself like when you played little blue dog before watching that i was like oh wow this is really jarring and great and like you know this is bad but also you know really enjoyable and then it was the backup dancers and little blue dog so there's i can't remember he's having sex with little bo peep this guy's having sex with little bo peep behind a bush or a shed or something and emmanuel sort of stumbles upon the noise of them having sex. And she hears them finish. And then they run away.

And she goes, oh, no, my sheep. And then, ah, yeah, a little boy poop. And then this guy, who I can't remember exactly what he's drawing from. But he's like, oh, no, my dog. And then he starts doing little blue dog. And as he's doing it, two backup dancers come out. And they're wearing, like, the most – they most they're wearing like blue t-shirts and underpants and then blue socks with like stockings like chunky cork heels on one strap sandals

and like it just really i really was on the set and i really was with the performers the mere fact that there were backup singers and dancers in some of these numbers i was i was blown away i was so impressed this speaks to nothing but the low bar that the rest of the emmanuel through time series has set for itself but it absolutely pole vaulted over the quality bar that the rest of the films the number of musical numbers it's like there was a i didn't read the credits in their detail because they also did a really cool thing where the credits had your classic bloopers playing next to them in this one there was your eight minutes as well the film actually stopped dead on 90 and then we had uh some credits started up with i think another whole other original song and then uh some bloopers after

that but there was a busy choreographer working on this and um i don't know if you describe them as being a great choreographer but they did choreograph a lot of things busy is a great word i love that how would you describe i'm a busy comedian yeah yeah are you good i'm bit i'm so busy i'm busy all the time i would not describe myself as a busy comedian you're in lockdown i will play one of the songs though if i may I would not describe myself as a busy comedian. You're in lockdown. I will play one of the songs, though, if I may. I would love that.

Absolutely ripped. And this was for Old Mother Hubbard who lives in a shoe? That's right, eh? No, there was an old lady who lives in a shoe. Old Mother Hubbard, she lives in a cupboard, bro. Oh, fuck, of course. Well, this woman doesn't live in a show either she revealed to us that it was metaphor no one lives in a show yeah she lives in a metaphor here's uh oh i'll go to the

volume one here's her song and this woman she can kind of sing Well, I've been working in the kitchen since the early morning light. Cooking and baking and you know I do it right. There's pumpkin pie and stuffing and the turkey sure smells fine. Yeah. Except for you, everybody's here, they know it's dinner time. Do you know what's so funny, which you can't see, you can only hear both Guy and audience. So she does like cool um uh like a windmill kick across a table you know fanning her dress out but she she's wearing black spanx underneath so they'll they

have forgotten it's porno like that's a great opportunity to show some naked female form and they're like nah fuck all that we're doing a musical right now we don't want to distract from the music this this was like an incredible subplot in it. So this is the old woman who lives in a shoe, and that's how Jack, the dastardly, very busy Jack from up the hill to fetch a pail of water and from the beanstalk and every other Jack you can think of, he describes her as an old woman. She's not.

She's a young mum who's married an absolute piece of shit. Tell her like it is, guys. She's a young, hot mum. She's a young, hot mum. She's a young, hot mum, and she married, would you believe it, just her luck, she married Peter Peter of Peter Peter pumpkin eater fame. And this fucking layabout just sits on the couch watching sports, drinking beer, ignoring her, asking for everything, offering nothing to the point that he actually, like,

she sort of sings this song at him, and to emmanuel to contextualize it she's like i fucking work myself to the bone to put a turkey on this table and for what for nothing and then peter pumpkin's like this is i'm so sick of these songs i'm going down to the pub or what is it rosie's cantina or whatever the sex club in this weird fairy tale land is and he goes and then later on he gets busted cheating and and actually we're rooting for the old woman who lives in a shoe and she's like i don't need this in my life peter why don't you go fuck a pumpkin because i'm out it's so good there's a brilliant story within a story and that's the kind of thing that you get treated to when you're doing these um what's it called and it's like an anthology within a single movie

so sometimes you get like anthology movie series or anthology tv series this is like many many characters and small tales this is pulp fiction this is this is like historical fairy tale fiction like this is you know i mean directly it's into the woods i don't know why i'm picking like a different example it's into the woods yeah i keep i can't get shrek out of my head but i guess it is it's both because you're just taking every you're taking all these known things and you're putting them together. Pinocchio was in this movie. Guy, I don't know if I've ever seen Shrek. Are you serious?

In fact, I'm pretty sure I've not seen any Shrek ever, any times. You have got to be taking the piss. No, I'm not. I'm not at all. Why would I have seen it? Because everyone has seen Shrek, and it's directed by a New Zealander. It was a claim to fame for our fair nation for a while a lot of things are directed by New Zealanders that I have not seen

I know that's true but not a lot of them achieved the success and like also the ubiquity never seen the piano that won an Oscar I think Shrek might have as well though Shrek is like an online language do you not click through and pass around all of these Shrek memes

and all this Shrek content and you're like, Guy, I've been on the internet since birth. You don't need to know the original source material to be able to speak in meme. I know, but are you not, like, curious how something like this became so widespread? I guess it would be probably worthwhile watching at some stage. I would be really interested to know what you think of it. Well, I don't know. I don't feel very compelled to watch it.

I don't think I'll enjoy it or hate it enough for it to be interesting. It's a comedy movie led by comic leads Mike Myers and Eddie Murphy. Comedy movie led by comic leads Mike Myers and Eddie Murphy. Mike Myers, famous for co-hosting with Kanye West during Hurricane Katrina when he said those immortal words. That's the number one thing when you go on his IMDb. George Bush doesn't care about black people. Yeah. And his frantic on-the-spot via satellite sort of eyes-only communication

with Chris Rock, from memory, is like one of the most funny, frantic moments I've ever seen on a television screen in my damn life. The curtain really drops in that moment. Canadians aren't built for that kind of conflict. They're just not. Like, you can't serve up a tamale that hot. But I guess no one kind of, well, the world didn't really know

the depths of Kanye West's chaos at that point. No. And, you know, yeah. I was thinking about that. I was thinking about Kanye recently. We don't need to talk about Kanye. What do you, no, get into it. What were you thinking about Kanye recently. We don't need to talk about Kanye. No, get into it. What were you thinking about Kanye?

This was a musical pornography? Yeah, that's true. I was thinking that moment popped into my head when I was running. As much for remembering Mike Myers' what Kanye was saying. And I was like, wow. Kanye's got this incredible track record of these really memorable moments. And he almost, it appears, because he's obviously got a lot of thoughts in his brain. He's got bipolar.

I think that's quite public. And I think even he's sort of acknowledged that publicly. He doesn't seem to care what side of history he lands on. He's an example of someone who's truly living in the moment. And often to his detriment. Yeah. Mental illness's an example of someone who's truly living in the moment and often to his detriment. Yeah, mental illness is a hell of a drug. You get a lot with it. It's pretty crazy to go be the guy who is, in Tim Bats' brain,

famous for saying George Bush doesn't care about black people and then becoming a Trump supporter later on. You've run the whole gamut. It's huge. And then running for president yourself. Yeah, true that. Oh, I want to play another song. I'm so glad you're doing this

because these songs truly need to be heard to be understood and believed. I think this one's called Do the Jiggle. Oh, yeah. This features a plastic trumpet, which for some reason, like, A, renting a trumpet is really cheap. Trumpets are not, in terms of the brass instrument world, they're not an expensive instrument to come upon. You can get, in New Zealand dollars, you could buy a student's trumpet, brand new, for around $1 a thousand dollars which would be around 700 us you can rent them so cheaply so so cheap this is the first song we this is the introduction to the

musical component of this film and it's the mad hatter who's like he's a really bad actor the guy is playing the mad hatter and he pretty much feels like he gives people horny tea he's I'm actually not sure if that's what I'm oh it is what I'm playing yeah it is what I'm playing you've got such a better memory than me I've just seen this movie and I I didn't know like what bit this was well he's good for me I just he was like it was I remember the first song and he was such a bad actor and then they gave him the first song and i was like i can't believe like you're asking so much from someone who's barely hanging on and he's the mad hatter he's a gigolo and he's having sex with goldilocks do you know what this feels like to me this feels like i'm jimmy camill and you're

setting up a clip for a movie you're promoting right now so this is the scene where uh emmanuel meets the mad hatter and he's having an orgy with Goldilocks and some others and they find out his profession. Anyway, you'll see. Let's play the clip. But never say never and have no fear. Because all I know is it's right up your ear. Do the jiggle dance, the jiggle dance. Like a woman gentle.

So the jiggle dance is codified language for sex. And the jiggle is the mad hatter. He's got a side hustle aside from wearing hats with lead in them. He also fucks people for money. It's mercury, I think. It is mercury. Lead doesn't make you nuts. It just makes you sick.

Is that right? Oh, is that lead? Oh, yeah, lead will kill you. What's the deal with that? What do you mean? Where were people getting their lead that was making them sick in the water? Lead was in everything. I mean, lead's in water now, which is bad,

but lead was in paint and it was also in petrol, which was a big issue because you put that in your car and then it becomes a gas and it's quite hard to get away from a gas. that in your car and then it becomes a gas and it's quite hard to get away from a gas um look they're probably exhaust all the notes i have oh well you don't need to worry because i am i've got all sorts of all sorts of notes yeah i'm going off book now um just like this this musical did at certain times especially during the credits. I just, listen, can I say this? I was so fucking impressed. I was so fucking impressed that these guys got it together. And it's, you know, there's a competition in New Zealand

called the 48-Hour Film Competition. Yeah. And this has been going for about 15 years now, give or take. It's a great initiative. There are variations of it in other places. You probably know exactly what it is, really. The name's on the tin. You've got one weekend to create an entire short film

with a small team, or maybe solo. And our version in New Zealand started by a guy called Ant Timpson, who is an absolute legend. And the New Zealand one is, I think, the most popular competition of its kind in the southern hemisphere. It's huge. Taika Waititi won it a lot before he started really doing anything.

And I remember, like, in real time, I remember they used to play the finalists on TV. I remember watching his one. He was a vampire judge in a courtroom. That's right. He also did a really cool solo wartime one when he was like a soldier and he was just like popping up and from behind a couch getting shot and stuff it's like a it's a veritable new zealand film institution this pipeline it is um quick plug

i also won uh it was part of a team that won it one year with a movie about jumping child jumping right but the reason i bring it up is because so you get attributed um the name of your lead character a line of dialogue a prop and the genre that you must contain for your film to prove that you made it that weekend you get given that at 7 p.m on the friday you hand in at 7 p.m on the sunday it is everyone's biggest fear to get musical as a genre musical is on the board every year and it is the most lamented and it's because it's fucking hard it's really hard to make a musical movie these guys did it guy maybe they did it in a weekend it wouldn't shock me to hear that the manuel three times franchise the 48 hour film thing i couldn't stop thinking the whole time i was watching it had 48 hours energy littered throughout it in the sense that it's like is it perfect no is it good enough yes and is it good enough is a great byline

for this emmanuel through time series like there's a lot of musical movies that they say they're a musical but they've got what like three songs in it this is good about 10 it's impressive there is probably an argument to be made that it was too many songs that maybe if they concentrated working a little harder on seven of the songs there was so little pornography in this ali hayes you do see topless quite a lot but that's cut after the first 15 minutes that's sort of it you see people get the rocks off yeah her like my shining light oh sorry you go well my shining light was actually her as emmanuel um the wolf so there's the the catalyst for a lot of action this is emmanuel's she goes through the the blimp uh wormhole and she gets trapped inside of this weird fairy tale universe

and she's trying to find a way out and some people help her and some people don't but there's the wicked not the wicked witch but like the evil witch from snow white she's a composite she's a yeah yeah but she's snow white appears but no wonder if she keeps talking to the mirror on the wall and um she's trying to hunt down emmanuel and she sets her up at one point she goes into a building to ask someone something she comes across the big bad wolf from little red riding hood and she's like ah this is not what i need and leaves and then she sends emmanuel in there she's like oh you need help go in there she goes in there she comes across the wolf who as tim has said is inexplicably in wolf face um it's a gray wolf it's a it's a gray area and uh the wolf is like there's a lot of sort of 50 5050 performances in this. The Wolf is a very poor, like physically lacks charisma,

has no confidence in their dance moves. They've got a choreographed dance to go with their song, which they also don't totally believe in. Yeah. And I was like super turned off by The Wolf. But Emmanuelle is turned on. And so what's her real name? Ellie Hayes.

Ellie Hayes. Oh, sorry. She goes by Brittany Joy, I think is her credit. Ellie Hayes she goes by Brittany Joy I think is her credit the actor who plays Emmanuel does an amazing job of slowly being turned on by this abysmal song and dance performance by this wolf and I was watching that and I was like

you've really got chops I can tell that you're being turned on right now Ellie Hayes is, I will say this,'re being turned on right now Ellie Hayes is I will say this an incredibly charismatic on screen performer she's got the sparkly twinkly eyes she's got an easy smile

she's someone that you want to hang out with on screen she's done a great job of carrying so many other lackluster actors in this Emmanuel Through Time series. She holds this film. I mean, she's held the franchise together,

but she holds this film together. All of the supporting players are also, by the way, from the blimp. Oh, yeah. It's all your regular dudes. Which is what kind of makes it interesting. It's not canon, but it is of the same cloth. Which is an interesting, they reference the Wizard of Oz. It's sort of like, and you were there, and you were there,

and you were there, but they never actually do that. But that would have been a nice ending, I think, if she kind of came back. Because she's somehow traveled through the wormhole by herself. Usually the whole blimp goes through, so you have the whole cast, you know, they're on the same page in an alien world. But this time, it's just been Emmanuel put through the wormhole. And it would have been nice for her to like wake up, I think,

in the Emmanuel.tv blimp and be like, yeah, do the Auntie Em. Da-da-da. You were there, you were there thing. But it never happens. Can I say this? You brought up the mirror, mirror on the wall thing. So are you familiar with the Mandela effect? Yes.

It's a huge misrememberance of something. I actually don't remember how it pertains to Nelson Mandela. It's because when he passed away, thousands, millions of people were like, no, no, that guy died in prison everyone was like no no he didn't he got out of prison and led the country of south africa for a while and everyone was like no no he's he died ages ago not for the um it's also the berenstein bears or the bursting bears or whatever that's right yeah so it's like a collective misremembrance of something so you know how everyone thinks it's mirror mirror on the wall apparently i can't verify this i just

read this recently i saw it in a youtube video some shit but in the disney um snow white and the seven dwarves in the movie that everyone knows that moment from apparently it's magic mirror on the wall mirror mirror on the wall is never said well the more you know that makes sense because it is a magic mirror and it would pay in terms of storytelling to label that so everyone's like why is this person saying mirror twice and why is this mirror talking you gotta let the kids know you gotta connect those talking because it's a magic mirror there's big furry energy in this movie and i am here for it we've got the big bad wolf in a full head-to-toe fursuit and emmanuel absolutely goes to town on a mound of fur that is around the pubis region. Correct.

And I imagine anyone who is that way inclined into all things furry. I'm not into furry myself, but I saw that stuff and I was like, this is fun. I appreciate it. I can understand how one would engage with the world. And there's a few moments of that. I think there's maybe one other character who's furry. Or do I just keep seeing the big bad wolf actually a couple of times i think he's in like three different scenes but it's the full body fursuit that's kind of shit like it's

not a very convincing wolf it's just like oh there's a guy in a fursuit oh yeah and then because the there's the face paint but then they've got like that you're elasticized prosthetic wolf nose which is just a piece of elastic over the back of the head anyway it's a good time it's a shout out to a particular region of the kink community and i think it was a nice addition to the film it's a it's a bit of a tease for them though isn't it possibly yeah you want to you want to actually see these furries fuck You don't really see You see You don't really Not in a pornographic way

You don't really see anyone fuck in this movie No You just see them sing You see them sort of like Get to the point when they would fuck Or they've just finished fucking Or they've been caught You know, at the end of Quidditch

But For a porno There's something parading around There being part of a pornographic series. There's something flying under the Emmanuel banner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's surprisingly light on sex. What I'm very interested to know that I have not looked up is where this comes versus the other one,

spelt C-U-M-S. This was released in 2011, which I think is the same as the other one. So I don't know canonically if this is in the middle of the rest of them. It feels like it belongs at the end, to be honest. Yeah, same. It feels like it should have gone after even the Emanuel Secret Agent one, which is all told in flashback.

I'm like, this is a nice way to cap the whole thing. Send us on our way. I think it might have done that. So, yeah, depending on where you look, this either came out in 2011 or 12. This did at least some limited run of the festival circuit as well. Great. I saw it come up on a website, something called Queens World.

You've heard of Queensland. You've heard of Queenstown. This is the Queens World Film Festival. Wow. And it played there in 2012. That sounds real. That sounds legitimate. Doesn't it?

Yeah. It was a legit website. It seemed real to me at the time. The internet's a trustworthy place. To be honest, I don't think we need any visitations from any co-hosts The whole time I've been crossing my fingers Legs, toes

That neither of those guys had stopped by Nah, I don't think we need them In fact, I think maybe we bop this one on the head Please I've had a cool time watching the movie And I'm going to rate it Out of a possible two Brothers Grimm I will rate a possible two Brothers Grimm.

I will rate this film one Brother Grimm. How many brothers are there? Two. Aren't there? I don't know. I think there's two. So 50%. I'm going to rate this movie out of Shrek.

Holy fuck. I think there was a ton of brothers yeah I thought there were two oh no wait the literary there was only two but they had other siblings

it feels like they did sorry so well my my rating system is out of Shrek so obviously a full Shrek

is five out of five a Shree four out of five Shrew three etc etc I'm going to give it a I don't want to tell you how to suck eggs

but I think the scoring should go at the lowest end it's shrek and the highest end it's shrek 5 and middling is shrek the 3rd if it's kind of good it's shrek ever after I will not be schooled on the shrek universe by a self-professed ignorant

it's a shree for me tim four out of five shit pretty high or shrek forever after um if you take this philistine's adapted um scoring system i'm like how who's never seen Shrek familiar with all of the sequels and spin-offs? I'm on the internet a lot, brother. You're a maniac. So, obviously,

there's not a firm close on when we're out of here with respect to Emmanuel. I'm pretty ready to say Evita Zane to

Emmanuel and the Chocolate Factory Because I really have looked You don't want to get a DVD sent over from Japan We It would take so long, especially now We've got a whole crisis going on In terms of transport and stuff I'm all for fucking saying goodbye

To this franchise Why don't you fucking order it from Japan, Guy? How about you take the reins on that one? Okay. And then in a year and a half. Yeah. You're going to fucking hate me when I show up at your house. Stop doing.

When this lockdown's finished and the season is finished and we're not even talking to each other anymore and I show up and say, hey, Tim, we've got one ass left to kick. One big job. Yeah. We've got one big job left And then we're out So to my listener I say thank you

And to you Tim I say fuck you Righto Pretty rich coming from a massive piece of shit Such as yourself But I will say to our dear libertarian listener You know Keep up the good fight Don't treat on me And to Guy I'll say to our dear libertarian listener, um, you know, keep up the good fight.

Don't treat on me into guy. I'll say go and fuck yourself. I'm so chubbed up after this movie. It's the first thing I'm going to do. Thank you.