The Worst Idea Of All Time - 50: One Bat (Live in NYC)
Episode Date: June 25, 2019Live shows: Portland 6/26, LA 6/28The fellas are live in NYC, fresh off a magic mushroom trip and very long walk through the Big Apple. AND a watch of Sex and The City: The Movie. Guy thinks bats are ...cool now and feels very smart for doing the merch math. The gals are up to no good this watch, beating up on Miranda again. Timbo and Flash field a few questions from the crowd and share their first kiss. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he sort of feels me out, I feel him out, and we go for it.
Hey! New York City! How we livin'?
City! How we livin'? Thank you so much for coming, everyone. Welcome to Littlefield.
And, uh, us. Yeah. This is Timbo reporting in, in the flesh. Live. And this is Guy.
Welcome along to the worst idea of all time, season four, episode 50, live in New York.
Famously the fifth character in Sex and the City. And can i just say this i'd like to go on the record what it's the greatest city
we've got people who have come here from somewhere in virginia we've got people who've come here from
somewhere in massachusetts we have someone who's on a work trip from england and they just happen
to be here at the right time. But all those places can suck one
because New York City is the greatest city.
We're going to Chicago.
They can go fuck themselves.
We're going to Portland.
Disgusting.
We're going to Los Angeles.
What a waste of a perfectly good desert.
New York City or broke, baby.
Thank you for having us.
Actually, no, I'm going to talk to you, Tim.
I was going to talk to the masses, but I'd rather check in with you.
All right.
How are you?
I'm real good.
And I'd just like to, before we go too further on in the show,
introduce our guest for this record.
It's the Knife!
The Knife is here.
Guy didn't even know.
No. It's got a she here. Guy didn't even know. No.
It's got a sheath.
I didn't stab myself.
So this is...
I heard the knife was cancelled.
No.
I heard the knife and I were both cancelled.
False.
Just you.
The knife lives.
This is the...
I don't know.
How would we... It's like the spirit of the knife
is imbued into whatever physical knife we have so it is the same it's never felt like we have a
knife tim it's always felt like you have a knife the podcast has a knife and i think it's important
to remember that now what makes this one special if if anyone's forgotten, is that it's ceramic.
So there's that.
Do you know, in a similar technique to what Mr. Big uses when he's chubbing tomatoes as he proposes to Carrie Bradshaw in Sex and the City, the movie, the movie,
you've taken the nib off your porcelain knife.
It kind of took the nib off itself.
Someone in my flat was using the knife as a knife which was baffling to me not quite sure how
that happened but um yeah the cap came off so i guess the moral of the story is ceramic knives
not as fucking clean as the australians would have you believe i'm less comfortable with you
traveling with an ordinary ceramic kitchen knife than any variety of flick knives or switch blades
you're less comfortable no this is weirder to me. This belongs in a kitchen in New Zealand.
But you know what the good thing is?
Metal detectors, you sail right through.
That's not good.
It's good.
It's not good information to release to the world either.
Yeah, I've got to stop waving a knife around New York City.
I don't know what the laws are here.
Because I saw you flew in through Honolulu, Hawaii.
Sure did.
And I saw you went...
Yeah, let's give it up for Honolulu.
No, Honolulu.
Another apparently good waste of a goddamn beach.
I hate every city, save for this one.
But you went to a flea market.
Yeah, I had four hours.
And I saw on your Instagram story,
you were posting all sorts of videos of various knives i was so thirsty you guys folks i was there for
four hours and um i looked up i was just on google maps and i saw a park and i was like you know what
i'm hot i'm sweaty i'm disgusting i'm in hawaii for crying out loud i want to go sit in a park
cool down in the heat of the middle of a park.
Well, no, I thought, I actually, I got confused.
I thought it was a national park because they had mixed the photos of what I thought was on the map
with this other place that had water and stuff.
So I was like, cool, I'll go there.
So I got in a cab and I was like, take me here.
And he did.
It was just some park.
It was just some suburban park.
And it was closed.
It had a big gate on it.
I was like, okay.
And he goes, hey, there's a flea market down the road. Do you want to go to the stadium and see
the flea market? I was like, sure.
So he just took me there.
I love this whole anecdote for you.
It is... But
what you were getting to is that there was a
beautiful cabinet of knives
there. Knives the likes I've never
seen before. And a guy sharpening them
who really looked like he knew his shit.
He wasn't like me.
He wasn't into like glory knives.
He was into fucking proper knives.
Yeah.
Hundreds of knives.
I was thirsty as, but...
Probably for a reasonable ticket as well
in a flea market.
They were a hundred bucks and up.
But they looked proper
and I didn't buy any of them do i regret it yep had you already checked your luggage through
it wasn't there it was just a bit pricey for me okay i would have found a way or tried what would
have happened is i would have tried and failed yeah it would have been like you just going through
customs and giving the tSA $100. Yeah.
All right.
So, well, you traveled with a ceramic kitchen knife,
which we are to believe, as you insinuated,
you flew with on the plane.
Aren't you proud of me, though, that I managed to remember to put it in my check luggage?
No.
Oh.
A rarity for me.
What?
To pack a knife?
Yeah.
Through this podcast, it is one of your defining traits.
To make sure that it's not on my person and taken off my person.
Oh, yeah, no, we're all really proud of Tim.
Thank you.
For putting a knife in a fucking suitcase.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What is this system of approval you're creating for yourself?
I don't know.
I've been away from my wife too long,
so now I'll take any sarcastic praise I can get and just transform it in my head
happy knife, happy wife
I imagine she's in her kitchen
with an unchopped tomato right now
going curse you Tim Bannon
absolutely spewing
well look it feels incumbent on us to talk about
the movie at some point
does it though?
well we are in the home of Sex and the City we have avoided any major to talk about the movie at some point. Does it, though? Because does it, though? Yeah, I feel like it does.
Well, we are in the home of Sex and the City.
We have avoided any major landmarks.
Two days ago, we ate some of the strongest magic mushrooms
we've had and walked over the Williamsburg Bridge.
Are we going to get into that, are we?
Not really.
It was too full on, everybody.
All right, well, you've opened up the can of worms,
so let's talk about it.
I've been itching to get some magic
mushrooms for a little while and I've been looking
in New Zealand where they grow a lot
and no one's got them
maybe because they're illegal I don't know
maybe I was coming a little too hot
they're illegal to have in your possession
as soon as you pick them up they're illegal
but when they're in the ground if you eat them straight from the ground
I have
been led to believe the legal situation in New Zealand
is that if you pick them, that's illegal
because you're in possession of a controlled substance.
However, if you find them, put your hands behind your back,
bend down and just eat them off of the ground,
fully legal.
That's grazing, exactly.
Got them on a technicality.
Take that, motherfuckers.
So you've found none to pick nor graze.
It's real.
I can't recommend anyone go looking for magic mushrooms themselves.
It is so risky.
You can fuck it up real easily, really well.
So I don't mess with that.
I leave it to the professionals.
Why is it because of the...
There's very similar looking ones that will kill you.
Yeah.
Thankfully, magic mushrooms have a 100% track record
of treating everyone very kindly.
So Guy has been putting up with me going,
man, I want to get some mushrooms.
And I ended up literally Googling it.
I was like, New York City.
And for about three hours, I was just online looking.
And I fucking found them.
Some guy had just posted his cell phone number three months ago on a forum.
And I text it once I got my SIM card from AT&T.
Thanks, AT&T.
What?
Huge shout out to AT&T, the New York City of cell phone providers.
And I was like, hey, man, sorry to bother you.
Have you still got psychedelic mushrooms?
He was like, yeah.
I was like, can I come around in an hour?
He's like, yeah.
So I was with Tim at the time.
He left immediately.
And then we linked up.
It felt like God opened a window.
About two hours later.
And what did the man, it was a man, wasn't it?
It was a dude.
And what did the man say when you arrived to buy the magic mushrooms he said uh he took a bunch of molly out of it oh yeah
yeah that's what he did not what he said he said here you go and then produced i've never seen
molly before and like what does it look like it's crystallized i thought it was like
meth or something i thought he was giving me some crystal meth i got very freaked out i was like uh
what's this?
Now? Is this a new form of...
Sounds like the guy's running a pretty rigid system.
He doesn't know what he's up to.
He's got the same accounting practice as I do at our
merch table. He was like,
sorry, what were you after? And I was like,
mushrooms? It's disgusting.
He was like, oh yeah, true. And he just pulls out from another
pocket a huge bag.
Anyway, I feel embarrassed.
You'll be surprised to hear that the mushrooms,
otherwise seemingly pretty switched on gentlemen provided,
were some of the strongest substances I could imagine.
Insane.
We walked...
17 kilometres.
Yeah, what's that in miles?
Like 13 miles across four and a half hours.
We walked through and into quite a lot of our own problems.
And we live to tell the tale.
And here we are now at Littlefield.
Yeah.
We're alive.
So the movie, guys.
Yeah, the movie.
You see, you keep saying.
What I love is that I came to New York City.
You moved to New York City to do this live show two years ago
which is good of you
playing it far ahead, I came here from
Auckland and we didn't
do any Sex and the City
related activities, we didn't watch it
in any Sex and the City related place
we just banged it on in your apartment
just sat watching this fucking TV
with the 50th screening
of Sex and the City on and I tell you what, doesn't get any tv with the 50th screening of sex in the city on and i
tell you what doesn't get any better on that 50th watch i yeah i i struggle to imagine uh many
environments in which we could have watched it that would improve the the raw data i am coming
around to the idea that this movie will not change week to week that it is uh fixed it's locked off it's uh
it more or less remains in its state almost like it was done in 2008 it's not to say the performances
don't change but the movie doesn't you know what i'm saying does that make sense we all on the same
page uh i to be honest it was it was one of the it was it was not the not the watch that I'd promised myself
a few episodes ago. It was pretty
disrespectful. Let's be honest.
It was two men in a room,
you packing a suitcase before we travel to
known shithole Chicago tomorrow
morning.
Maybe I'll release all of the
live episodes after we've completed all
of them. Maybe that's what we'll do.
Put this one out tonight, brother.
I don't know, man.
I don't know about that.
No, you're right.
So, look, there was some forward planning involved.
It wasn't totally disrespectful.
Before we kicked off, I got all of my stuff into the lounge
so I could do things while maintaining eye contact with Big.
Because as we know, if you give him an inch...
He'll take a mile
he will
that's why they call him
Mr. Big
and come on it
he takes big liberties
big strikes
yeah
aww
I love live reactions
to your commentary
no too far guys
you know when we talk
about jizz
in a private room
I'm always like
I tell you the people
are going to love this
yeah I know
and you bring up jizz
in front of a live audience
and you can hear the groans.
Whoops.
So I was packing in front of the tally.
You were getting yourself ready as well.
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a VR watch, that's for sure.
It wasn't the...
Probably a welcome change, to be totally honest.
Yeah.
Just to kick off a conversation about the film,
I'll tell you my shining light which was
uh this week no an arsehole carl a partner at mr big's firm probably one of the more in a in a
world of confident characters one of the more confident characters he heckles samantha during
her speech and the heckles aren't directed at samantha they're directed towards mr big's checkered
past in terms of having two previous marriages this He says to the groom when he goes,
there's a word he's heard before, and everyone sort of jeers him,
but he is not cowed at all by the fact that no one likes his bits.
He's like, okay, okay, I see how it is.
You want more of Daddy Carl?
I can give you more of Daddy Carl.
And he keeps going, I can't remember the next one,
but all the way to Samantha goes, hey. Hold on, I can't remember the next one, but all the way to the end it goes, hey.
Hold on, you can't remember the next one.
Can you?
Uh.
Oh.
Wait, did you already say there's a word he's heard before?
Yeah.
Here's hoping, John.
Ah, nice.
What?
No, what? What? Just let me have it i'm away from home i don't know about this new character you've you've taken on he wears loud shirts and apparently
gets very scared but he's not in new zealand yeah uh yeah no but i i loved his energy i thought
he's he was a disruptor this week.
From what is the norm, from the usual rhythm of the movie and the characters contained therein,
he was someone who came in here and said,
you know what, fuck all of this, fuck the wedding,
I don't care about Carrie, I don't care about Big,
I'm a partner at a goddamn firm.
I don't think he cares about the firm.
He employs Big, a known, colourblind, illiterate, you know, jizz fiend.
And that's not to criticise any three of those component factors by themselves.
But if you are hiring at a high-powered finance firm...
Well, I don't know.
Maybe it's like what they say about when you lose one sense, the other gets heightened.
You know that movie Blind Fury?
No.
It's good.
I think it's from the mid-90s
and it's like a kung fu action movie
except it's American made.
And the guy's blind,
but he's an incredible fighter.
He's sort of like Daredevil,
like he can kind of hear people coming.
Because he's got great sense.
Yes.
Yeah.
So maybe Big's colour blindness
and lack of ability
to read has honed his financial
muscles. His eye for numbers.
Exactly. It'd be like
you at the merch table. You were killing it out there,
man. Yeah, so what I'd do is when we'd
sell something... Ones, no problem. Fives, you got it.
I'd mark it. I was marking it all down
and I was doing the change.
It was the smartest I felt literally in years.
You did really well.
You did really well.
No, I'd like to go back to this premise of blind fury
because I've been thinking a lot about bats recently.
Okay.
And I used to be scared of bats,
but I'm not scared of bats.
Have I talked about this with you?
No.
Okay, great.
I used to be scared of bats,
but I have grown fond of bats.
I think it's more likely
a bird will fly into you.
Couldn't not.
I liked you the whole time.
My name's Tim Bat. There's probably a couple of people
here who don't know what this podcast is
who've been brought along. My name's Tim Bat.
Yeah, and I
love you, Tim, but I've grown
to like regular bats.
I think it's more likely that a bird would find you than a bat because bats use sonar.
Right.
And that means that sonar is like where you put a noise out and it bounces backwards so you know where everything is.
Is your definition of something you like something that won't hit you?
It's not, yeah, I guess because not wholesale
but with regards
to bats
I was always
afraid of them
because they have
like quite terrifying
faces
and they're nocturnal
and they're just
like
they're
they're quite cute
oh some of them
are really cute
but some of them
they've got
New Zealand's got a great
we've only
I think we've only
got one bat
I think
and it's little
yeah
little wee dude
beautiful little bat
just gorgeous one species no no I like I like this little. Yeah. Little wee dude. Beautiful little bat. Just gorgeous.
One species.
No, I like this.
One species, also one bat.
Yeah.
He flies around
distributing presents
because
it's unseasonably warm
for Santa Claus, you see, so we entrust
a bat to get it done in the summertime.
Sure, yeah, that's right.
Is he good at barbecuing?
Well, he can fly.
It makes more sense than a fat human, doesn't it?
Just rolling around with reindeer.
Well, obviously...
Where's the sense in that?
How did the reindeer thing become attached to Santa Claus?
Does no one know?
Finland.
Finland.
Is that...
No, let's not get into that.
I like that.
The answer is Finland.
The answer, as always.
And we are finished.
Okay.
With that.
Oh, no, we hate it.
Even I hate it.
Hard earned.
Thank you.
It's like when you burp and you get a spot,
you're like, whoa, that was worse than I was expecting.
Yeah.
But I did it.
That was, yeah, no, that was good.
I really felt that groan.
But no, so that was my shining light.
And also, I think bats are cool now.
And I didn't used to think that.
But the other, one more question before we move on is
because you know how like you look at say it's another animal but you look at a monkey and
they're so they seem so coordinated like they're so good at swinging from bright you never see a
monkey falling i never see monkeys falling down they're so coordinated but there's got to be
amongst all the monkeys got to be less coordinated monkeys monkeys who do not have the same ability
to control their body.
And so the same would be
true, I imagine, with bats where they have bad
wonky sonar. I don't think that,
I think humans are the only species that
got so advanced that we allowed
people who aren't super
great at not dying
to persist.
Like with other animals, there's a natural
attrition that happens. It's like, if you're bad at falling out of trees and you're a monkey, there's a natural attrition that happens.
It's like if you're bad at falling out of trees
and you're a monkey,
you don't get to procreate.
It's kind of,
it just sort of curtails that.
I mean, you've got to imagine,
it would be a huge turn off
in the monkey community, wouldn't it?
You imagine booty calling another monkey
and just hearing them fall.
Here I come.
Whoa.
And they fucking climb back up
with a wonky arm.
I'm not going to fuck you now, Greg.
Is that sad?
I feel sad about that.
Nah, it's not sad.
Survival of the fittest.
I'm projecting sort of human morals onto the animal kingdom.
Should I be doing that?
Dunno.
Hey, man, do what you want.
I'm a vegan now.
I feel like I can.
Although I'm the worst vegan.
You've seen me eat a cheeseburger on this trip.
You're still vegan.
Thanks, man.
Mine was Carl. What was yours?
This is going to sound like a cop-out, but it's true.
There's a woman who sits next to Carl,
who I've never mentioned, but I've loved her for the last 20 watches.
Presumably Carl's partner.
Possibly. She looks at him
she's the only one who looks remotely fondly at him
when he tells his. No but that's what I like about her
she definitely
at least works with him. She looks to be
to my mind 15 years
his junior probably.
Carl's the kind of dirty dog
who would date that low down though.
She looks to me very sophisticated and smart.
I don't know if she would put up with a car.
So it leads me to believe that she is a up and coming person in the firm.
What is the firm?
It's a financial firm.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she's like a trader.
Like a good trader.
Yeah.
And you just like her?
I like what she does when Carl makes his shit calls.
What does she do?
Well, it's like a facial expression which is to say,
that's fucking goofy, dude.
Like you're making an ass of yourself.
But it's not big enough to have any repercussions at work.
She's kind of stone-faced, but it just allows enough to creep on there.
Yeah, well, if we do look at her as an aspiring partner,
there is a very clever sort of almost manipulative quality
to the way she eggs Carl on to keep making a fool of himself
in this public space, knowing full well that when he vacates the throne,
she's going to slide on in.
That's it.
That's great.
She's not too mean about it, because you come for the king,
you best not miss.
She instead is creating a little
honey trap i've always i've always read her as sort of being it's nothing but support but there's
a more sinister motive underneath this by the way um she's on screen for a second a second and a
half just so everyone knows uh no no joke yeah do you want to do any questions by the way i with
time but i did there's another thing I want to talk about,
which is I thought this today and I said it out loud to you,
which is because you were complaining that we don't meet
any of the extra characters at the rehearsal dinner.
We've got no notion of how the actual dinner
and the surrounding drinks and socialising goes.
We just see people, you know, we catch...
It's not that I would like the movie to run for longer and
to see the entirety of the event but please don't interpret that as our answer to this but it's just
you know like in sex in the city 2 we get to meet these characters who are second or third you know
second or third to the story and we get to get to know them in a way that in sex in the city
we we don't we asked we are trapped on an island with the leads, with the protagonists. And it is fucking...
Honestly, I'm going to be honest with you guys right now.
I know I've put on a brave face for 49 episodes.
It's really infuriating.
But at the rehearsal dinner,
we don't really get a sense or a feel for any of this.
And this is all part of what leads me to the conclusion that,
you know, we've talked about that Big has a serious dearth of friends.
He's got no close male...
He's got no close male.
He's got no friends, really, beyond Carrie.
You said today, I bet Big would have stayed and gone and got married if he had a single friend at the wedding.
And that's what I want to talk about.
Not even at the wedding.
If he'd had a friend who was with him the night before,
if he had a friend who was with him the morning of,
if he had a friend who was in the car with him on the way to the wedding,
he's just indulging every terrified whim.
It's no way to live.
You're not wrong.
And maybe that is the hidden moral of the story,
which does, you know, it's congruent
with the themes of Sex and the City,
which is all about friendship, isn't it?
That's the themes of Sex and the City.
Friendship is the themes of Sex and the City. Isn't it? Is that the themes of Sex and the City? Friendship is the themes of Sex
and the City. Isn't it?
Yeah, I think that's what's written down
on the vision board. Yeah.
Themes. Friendship.
Friendship? Nothing more.
But I truly believe that.
And I know that we can't
change history and, spoiler, they get
married anyway, but
we could save ourselves roughly an hour and a half
if he had a friend in the car with him.
I love it when we get plans on these podcast episodes to go,
you know, I want to shave a bit of time off.
That would be a nice little shortcut in the story.
Let's not do any of this.
Look, yeah, so my mental health is deteriorated
and deteriorating rapidly still but you don't
need to point it people can join the dots themselves tim do you know what i love no
i love that we've misjudged the number that we have to do but only by one
if you stack up the live episodes versus how many we've got left, we're going to end up watching the movie 53 times. Not necessarily.
We could watch it a few times as a hobby.
Oh, how dare you.
How offensive.
How would you feel if I snuck off
and just started watching it in private?
No kidding, no joke.
I'd be really worried.
I would be concerned. I would go to your
partner, Charles, and be like,
can we just chat about Guy
for a second, because we need to
figure this out. We need to look after him.
I'd be so concerned if you did that.
I'm just saying it's a possibility.
It would be...
I can't think of an equivalent.
It's bad. Don't do that.
You've worried me with the suggestion.
I'm really getting spun out thinking about that as a possibility.
But it's not a possibility.
It's all cool, baby.
Before I proposed it, you like that we've missed it by one.
Yeah.
It feels like, you know, a baker's dozen's 13.
It's like the worst idea of 52 is 53.
I think it's good.
It's a perfect representation of
the accuracy with which we've executed this
premise. Yeah.
They got pretty close.
Almost. Oh, wow. Well, they did
it. Cool.
Should we dig into...
Yes. Dear listener, we
have solicited for some questions
from the audience written on various bits
of card.
And we'll now
read and answer some of these. Sorry,
what cracked me up is I read one of them. It's very funny.
I'm glad we did this.
If you've still got a tickle
from it, you should read it out.
And very nice handwriting, I hasten
to add. Have you two ever kissed?
Surely. Either way way can you please almost kiss
or fully kiss now
and then a smiley face
that's a terrifying
precedent to set
with this number of
like if these people
are as coordinated
and intelligent as I think they might be
we are about 15
cars from fellating one another.
Give us a kiss.
Should we kiss?
We love each other. It's okay. That's our first kiss. Is it? On the lips. Yeah,
definitely. I like that. Is it? I'm sure I've kissed you before. I don't think you've kissed
me on the lips. I think sometimes I want to and you don't like it. Someone's encouraged a real kiss.
And no.
Carrie's authorial career is confusing.
I like that word.
Yeah.
The R's linked up with the I, so it looks like orthonial.
It's got to be authorial.
Author, right?
Authorial career is confusing.
Have you been able to piece together any kind of
trajectory and
have the other gals
read her book?
They haven't. Maureen from
NYC.
Thank you so much for this fantastic
question, Maureen.
Shall we address the first half,
which is have we been able to piece together
any kind of trajectory for Carrie's writing career?
Because what we do know is at the start of this movie
is in the span of everything that has come before it,
she's written three books.
20 years, I think we're dealing with.
Yeah, three books,
which appear to have financed quite a glamorous lifestyle.
It's incredible when you think about it.
On average, one book every 6.66 years.
The devil's number.
No, that's not right.
The math's off.
A little under seven.
If we piece together,
and I have recently figured out
that Sex and the City and Sex and the City 2
do exist in the same cinematic universe,
the book that Carrie is working on
and reading what she calls excerpts,
but which are pretty obviously improvised ramblings at a reading of,
is presumably the book that is released in Sex and the City 2.
A book that, if you remember correctly, gets panned in the New Yorker.
Yes.
I said yes like it was amazing I remembered a film I've seen 52 times.
Which would mean that her trajectory,
which I feel like it's been
there was Promise, I guess.
She got a lot of cool articles.
She had articles in Vogue and
presumably other
couture fashion magazines.
When they lead up to her book.
At the beginning of her career.
Yeah, right.
Then put out three books. I feel like showed Promise.
Everyone banked on the promise.
Read the first one. They thought, okay,
it's your first book though, so we'll give you the benefit of the doubt
and say it's better than it is. The second book,
the difficult second book.
Shit.
The third book, shit. The fourth
book, shit. The trajectory,
down, baby.
All the way down to the ground.
That's what I think.
She's with Big. The financial savant. Down, baby! All the way down to the ground. That's what I think. How is she... I guess...
Wow, she's big.
She's with Big.
Yeah.
The financial savant.
Yeah.
I mean, do you think any of the characters have read her books?
It's a great question.
I really don't.
And I find it so...
Like, that's the scene I want to see.
Where Samantha, a publicist, is struggling to both placate Carrie
and be like, no, the book was amazing.
Be like, what was your favourite part?
Don't make me choose.
The whole thing was so,
how can you pick one part of your book?
I like to view the book as a whole,
and it's flawless.
Do you want a drink?
What's Mr. Big doing?
Anything else?
I like the idea that the third...
Big can't read it, which is sad.
I like...
It's probably for the best he'd leave her otherwise.
Are they a perfect couple?
Because they complement each other so well.
Because her career is she's an author
and he is illiterate.
There's a nice kind of yin and yang.
I think in the vacuum of how these two people are
it is a perfect relationship
but in the real world you want some
semblance of support from your partner
I like the idea
of the three of them not having read any of her books
and then reading them and being like
what the fuck
this is everything
carry your bed you know sitting her down this is everything.
Carrie, you know,
sitting her down,
taking her money.
You'd be furious.
I reckon, in my heart of hearts,
Samantha Jones would write a better book than Carrie Bradshaw.
She's got a better command of language.
She's so quippy.
I think she's led a way more interesting life,
but she's not...
What's the word?
She doesn't over...
What's the verb of
make yourself important?
She doesn't importacize her own life.
She's not self-important?
Yeah, like she doesn't...
Oh, I love this. I can crowdsource.
What? Assert? Yeah, she doesn't't... Assert? Oh, I love this. I can crowdsource. What?
Assert?
Yeah, she doesn't like over-assert her adventures in Catching Dicks, essentially.
It would just be great tales put into book form,
memorialised for the ages.
If Samantha wrote one.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Fun stories.
It'd be like a whole bunch of short stories.
It's a shame we never got to spend any time with Samantha in her prime
because all of her quips, which are meant to be fun and snappy and light in the movies,
feel so, like, legend.
And here she's like, oh, remember me?
Ah, fuck.
And everyone goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not her fault, though.
I think that's the gal's fault for not being as fun as her.
They've dulled her, you know, like a knife.
And do you think that's why she does things like lash out at Miranda
when they're on holiday?
I talked about this while we were watching this episode.
So this is crazy, everybody.
We've got Miranda, who is suffering the breakdown of a marriage,
and there's a kid involved, which, as I've said,
I personally feel like that adds several factors of drama to the situation.
I've gone on the record as saying
I think that makes it easier and
better, but Tim. We'll agree
to disagree. The endless well
of empathy that he somehow is
seems to find a way to think that a child
being involved in a divorce somehow makes it more
complicated. I don't know.
I don't know how he sees the world, but this is just what he
thinks. The gals have given
no love, kindness, empathy, or even sympathy to Miranda,
who's going through this terrible situation,
and thrown everything behind Carrie Bradshaw for some inextricable reason.
Probably because they're guilt-ridden from not reading her books.
Probably because Sarah Jessica Parker's an executive producer as well.
Probably that too.
There's a couple of factors working here.
And the first moment
that Miranda has in the film after
breaking up with Steve,
literally an
exhalation of breath as they're
relaxing in Mexico. She's sitting back
and she said, ah,
the sun feels nice.
She's bathing. She's sun
bathing.
Oh!
I never understood that turn of phrase.
I still don't.
I don't think I revealed anything like that, did I?
No, she's bathing in the...
No, you go.
Yeah, all right.
And the immediate response to that is Samantha goes,
Jeez, honey.
Oh, fuck, what's the wording?
Wax much?
Wax much, that's it.
Did someone watch the movie today?
Is that who was yelling wax much?
Did anyone watch the movie today, just quickly?
Nice!
I love the indignant
no!
Fair enough. An audience after
our own hearts.
Such a slapdown.
She has one moment of happiness yeah the audience as well but
the gals on miranda miranda's like hey you know what i can enjoy this one moment we're all together
in mexico i'm relaxing hey uh what's up with your fucking pubic hair miranda get fucked you know
like hey hey miranda fuck your decision to have autonomy
Over your body
You bag of shit in here
That decision you made about yourself
Wrong
And then Carrie and Charlotte
Silently go
Yeah nice
And then the situation ends
With Miranda storming off
Because she is completely understandably upset
And you know at which point she says something and Miranda goes, I'm fine.
Yeah.
And I'm sitting there thinking, no, you're not.
You're cross.
No, she is cross.
But she's wanting to, like, not ruin everyone's time completely.
She wants to express her anger but still maintain, you know, a bit of a semblance of holiday to what they're all doing.
Sorry. Vacation. maintain, you know, a bit of a semblance of holiday to what they're all doing. Sorry, vacation.
Really, is that one?
You don't say holiday?
Holiday's better.
Really interrupting me here.
Oh yeah, you are in flow.
Keep going.
Miranda leaves.
Don't let me break your flow.
And the very next thing that anyone says is Carrie says,
we should have dinner at the restaurant tonight.
And everyone goes, oh, my God, Carrie's back.
Carrie's back.
Oh, what a relief.
I've got to do something to get me out of this Mexicoma.
Carrie, you made a little joke.
Yeah.
And Charlotte laughs.
Everyone's happy.
You just fucking decimated Miranda.
I imagine that there's a lot of footage on the cutting room floor
of Carrie and Charlotte piling on.
And they're like, we've got to take that out.
It's too full on.
Let's go straight to the joke.
It's nuts.
It's crazy.
That is crazy stuff.
This one here on the green card reads,
do you think your friendship could survive a podcast?
It's not the whole question, but it very well could be.
Do you think your friendship could survive a podcast
where you don't suffer so much?
Can you imagine a podcast where you and I engage in something that we enjoy?
I honestly think there
is so much humour to
suffering. Light suffering.
You know?
Self-enforced suffering.
Totally.
Even Jackass was too much for me because I really
really don't enjoy watching people
get injured. Oh, I used to love Jackass.
Yeah? Yeah, I thought it was
so funny. I enjoy like,
aspects of it,
but when they actually like,
fuck themselves up.
Even America's Funniest Home Videos,
which is the show that carried in New Zealand for,
and I think is probably still on,
but that was in prime time when I was a kid.
You're talking about Fail Army,
baby.
I'm talking about Fail Army.
I'm sitting with the host of the,
the great Fail Army.
The New Zealand version right here.
I can't watch this shit,
because people genuinely get so fucking injured
and I'm like this sucks
I hate this but I like a bit of light
suffering self imposed light suffering
I think the show that got it
best which will mean nothing being in America
but Back of the Y
which was New Zealand's kind of
equivalent of Jackass
which was made by a dude who I got to work with
later and it was great because it was like
dumb storylines.
That legend fired a t-shirt cannon into your throat.
Yeah, he almost killed me.
But, in fairness,
he has my name tattooed
on his body, so
he really lost. You've got Patrick Schwarzenegger
tattooed on your body. Fuck!
I forgot. Everyone's a loser in all
of these anecdotes. Keep forgetting.
I think we could.
I remember when we last ended the podcast,
I remember going on other people's podcasts and being like,
so what, you guys all just get together in a room
and you just talk about something you like.
Wow.
What an interesting way to approach the medium.
I had no idea
this was an option.
I think our friendship
could definitely survive it. I don't know if my
psyche could, because I don't have the confidence
to think it would
be any good.
Yeah, but it would be, and more than that,
I think what
led us back is, it's not that
a positive podcast would impact the friendship, I think it's the absence of it's not that a positive podcast
would impact the friendship.
I think it's the absence of podcasting
that didn't take a toll on the friendship.
It sort of removed a crutch of communication between us.
This is why we dug this thing up.
I haven't listened back to any of these episodes
and never will I.
But I was going through my notes
from the first watch today.
Of this season?
Yeah.
And what they are,
what they're representative of
is the state of mind I was in,
which was so excited
to be doing this with you again.
And like, you know,
the misguided notion
that digging up the podcast concept
will be fun.
This combined with our first kiss,
it's especially the state you're all at.
I tell you what.
But if I read,
like if I read my notes from that,
it's like all the things
that I've grown to hate.
I love when I see Samantha winking at I've grown to hate, I love.
When I see Samantha winking at Carrie, I'm like, I love that wink.
You know, all these moments which I now watch and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
And, you know, it's just, I don't know.
Are you saying that's an analogy for the friendship where you were like, I'm so keen to get back into this friendship with Tim.
And by now it's like, what the fuck is this guy doing?
No, but the friendship's good.
I love you and I love having you here.
But the medium through which it exists, it's broken.
It isn't, it isn't.
Pretty full room we got here, Monty.
Look around.
A lot of beautiful people came out.
No, no.
Fine match. Put that applause back in your pockets! look around lot of beautiful people came out no no fine match
put that applause
back in your pockets
may I
please
do you think
Sex and the City 3
could have worked
without Samantha
and Mr Big
oh without both of them
I missed it with both
that question
suggests that
Sex and the City's
one and two
functioned with them.
Take that,
mattress pikelet, you son of a bitch.
You could do literally, you could do
any, I don't know, I think yes
is the answer. I mean, it wouldn't have made
a difference to us.
Okay, what I feel like you're
saying is, if you take
the assumption that Sex and the City
one and two worked, and you removed, by that Sex and the City 1 and 2 worked
and you removed, by that metric
and then you removed these two characters
sure, by whatever you've defined
working as, it continues.
So we've got Biggers killed out of the movie, so presumably
we see Chris Knoth having a heart attack
in the shower.
Oh, did you guys know about that?
This is, yeah, so this was
the rumoured
central plot point for Sex and the City 3.
The now defunct promise of another sequel was that Mr. Big dies of a heart attack.
And then the movie is centred around the friends coaching Carrie through the loss of her partner.
And Kim Cattrall balked at the idea and said...
Rightly, I think.
I'm not going to be in a movie where my entire role is just supporting Carrie
Bradshaw. Again! Yeah.
And rightly so.
I think...
I mean, fuck, it would be...
If I think about watching
Carrie sulk through
New York City and Mexico today
and then watching her traipse through the Middle
East and just suck,
I think the idea of watching her commiserate
the loss of Mr. Big,
it would not function.
It absolutely wouldn't.
And I'll go so far as to say,
a Sex and the City 3 that is just Mr. Big and Samantha
would be better than the first two films.
And actually, a wonderful bookend,
because in the very first episode of Sex and the City,
Samantha is pursuing...
Is that in the first episode?
Yeah, she wants to have sex with Mr. Big.
If you get all the others...
I just burped, I think,
when someone might have taken a photo with a flash.
I'm not sure.
No, someone's got to ride a motorbike.
Very cool.
I hope it's loud.
Guy, this is so weird.
I've never seen Guy get genuinely kind of mad about anything.
But you've recently really teed off about motorbikes.
They're too noisy.
They're so noisy.
Okay.
My people.
There's a motorbike pointed through the window of the venue.
It's got a really powerful LED light blasting into my eyeball.
It's loud and aural.
It's affecting the screen.
That's all right.
There's nothing to see.
All of that to say, yeah, I'm with you.
I think the movie would be better if it was just those two.
And I'd love to see them going at it.
Mr. Big Coloring Outside the Line, Samantha,
and No One's Sex Crazed Maniac.
Yeah.
Match made in heaven.
Absolutely.
A weird deviant heaven.
What do you do to get out and enjoy your day?
That's so cute.
If I'm really going to enjoy a day,
I'll usually start it with a walk.
Before I do anything, I'll wake up. As soon as I'm awake, I'll go out, I'll usually start it with a walk. Before I do anything, as soon as I'm awake, I go out.
I take a stroll around the block.
Then I might stop in at a coffee shop, have a coffee, read a book, perhaps a pastry if I'm feeling cheeky.
And then I guess I'd hang out with some friends, ideally be productive.
After that, when I'm not being productive anymore, I'd go for a run.
All of a sudden, it's night time.
Time for a beer with the pals.
Later on, maybe watch a funny TV show and smoke some of the illicit drug marijuana
before I lay my weary head down in bed.
That's a good day for me.
What have you got, Tim?
I appreciate the applause breaks,
but we've got to get through more questions.
The time is 6.45 a.m.
I have been asleep for approximately four hours.
My wife rises from the bed, getting ready to go to work.
The shower wakes me up.
I think, I've got to watch Sex and the City 2,
the second half of it.
The Sex and the City 1.
Maybe Sex and the City 2.
Maybe that's my perfect day.
A bit of respite.
So I'll watch it, not in VR,
would be my perfect day.
Flash forward, it's 8 o'clock. I've missed the opportunity to have a shower
but I have just had enough time to make a coffee
while Guy Montgomery and myself
struggled to get a Skype call
to work correctly
through a combination of
Wi-Fi and 4G
to see what will have the lowest amount of latency
record an episode
realise I didn't hit the record button.
Jump back on, record another episode.
Jesus Christ.
This is viscerally uncomfortable.
Guy said it's viscerally uncomfortable for him.
No, I can't even continue this charade.
That's a pretty good morning, though, isn't it?
I think we can all agree.
Whatever the opposite of that is,
I would literally, anything that doesn't involve
watching one of these four movies that we've seen
is all right by me.
Pretty much anything.
I could be mowing the fucking lawn.
And that is the benefit of the podcast,
is the bar you have set yourself for an enjoyable day
is that low.
I had a really enjoyable day recently
which was born of failure.
So I think this is a parable with a moral.
May I share it? Yeah, go for it, man.
In New Zealand there's a competition called the
48-hour film competition where you've got to
make an entire short film
now a maximum of five minutes in
length within one weekend.
You get given some set criteria to meet
so that they're making sure that you've made it
within the weekend. Me and a friend,
Paul Williams, very talented comedian
and musician, decided to... He's got a great album on
Spotify, Paul Williams. Look that up, by the way.
You should. It's called
Surf Music. We did one together
as a twosome, and generally
you need a lot more people to make a movie
than that.
We approached it with a pretty relaxed attitude.
We didn't kick off till very late.
Normally, you want to finish the script on the...
It starts at 7 o'clock on the Friday night.
You stay up until about 12 or 1 a.m.
You finish the script,
and then you start shooting first thing on Saturday.
We were writing the script the whole of Saturday.
And we created a great
story about a little robot
that wanted to write a song
and it was beautiful. And then we
got to 10pm
Saturday before we had
shot a frame of it, which
is bad, and
we shot
some of it and then it was 1 o'clock in the morning and
Paul just goes to me, hey man,
this is impossible, eh?
I was like, what's that?
He goes, well we've got a shot list here of
50 shots we've been filming for like
three hours and we've got four of them.
And I was like, oh yeah.
Yeah, it's impossible.
There's no way
we could finish this.
And he said, do you want to just should we i think we should
probably throw in the towel and i was like yeah different we should just bail on it where the
fuck was this attitude 46 episodes ago so i did we did we threw in the towel we bailed on it and
then my sunday i got a light sleep in and then i fucking got a haircut, mowed the lawns, and then
met up with walkout boy Nick
Sampson for a beer, because he was in the
neighbourhood. It was fucking mint.
And it was not like a spectacular
day, but there was something about the
expectation of what that day was going to be
being
superseded. I thought
I was going to be sleep deprived, editing
a bad film. it's a beautiful
it's a beautiful feeling all of that got taken away from me it'd be like going in to do this
52 more times and then on the second time the world was just like hey tim you don't have to
do what about this it's like what if we cancelled our shows in non-shitholes chicago portland and Portland and Los Angeles. I don't know about that, man.
It would be the same feeling.
All right, goddamn Dostoevsky.
What is Samantha's quote from the theme song and do you deliberately slow it down sometimes
to fuck with us?
Part one of a two-part question.
Very good.
We'll hear the second part.
No, no, we'll answer that first.
Very good.
Just as I intended.
So that quote by Kim Cattrall is not from...
Oh, yeah, it's from our theme song.
It's nothing to do with sex in the city.
It's her and her husband on a video
that has made its way to YouTube
where she is announcing herself as a...
I want to say scat singer,
but that sounds like the wrong word.
Yeah, it's a real-life interview with Kim Cattrall
where she says she's a poet
and her partner is a jazz musician who plays bass.
Upright bass.
Upright bass.
So he's playing a bass
and she's sort of scatting over it.
Although I have since discovered
that this is not an improvised poem she's performing,
but a written poem by someone else that she is reciting.
She didn't even write that.
Yeah.
Does it make it better or worse?
Way worse.
But at the end of the video, outside of the song,
she says whatever is said in the theme song.
I don't listen to it that much.
I just put it in.
We work together and hear it together
and we get a nice rhythm
and it's something along those lines.
You guys know because you hear it every time.
And we go for it, yeah.
We go for it.
Yeah.
And we go for it.
So I've been slowing it down by 1% every episode.
But then I've seen people on the subreddit
being like, is this fucking
occasionally slowing them down? I'm like, I've been
slowing down the whole time
so what I'm going to do
for the last ones, I started doing this a couple
episodes ago, is I'm going to slow it down by
10
and what it's supposed to do is
emulate
what we're going through.
It is the audio expression of what is happening to our minds.
So what you're hearing is Guy and I, it's our brain turning to putty.
That's a very good answer.
The second part, and this is going to be,
I realise this is going to be the last question we'll have time to answer.
Sure thing.
The rest of them, thank you so much for these submissions.
I'm suggesting to you now, Tim, we do a special friend zone
in which we address these remaining questions at a later date.
So we're going to answer this, and then you'll see what happens.
I think Carrie's observation about Charlotte shitting herself
is 100% spot on.
Evidence.
When
Charlotte and Carrie are furniture shopping and
Charlotte is like, my life is so good.
Carrie's like, yeah, but you shit yourself.
Direct
quite.
But Charlotte seems
to have forgotten.
So
Carrie's observation that Charlotte's life
isn't as good as she thinks because she has shit herself.
Honey, you shit yourself this year.
I think you're done.
As someone who is on the record as having shit themselves
more than most people in the previous years,
I take umbrage with this.
Because at some point you do forget you did it.
And in doing that, you forget how significant that moment is to other people.
We don't all have...
Like some bats have wonky sonar,
some of us like to test the limits of our physical body
to the point where we sometimes, maybe accidentally,
after a house party with a bunch of 19-year-olds in Malibu,
wake up the next morning, roll out the top of a camper van
and shit their pants.
That's just what some of us do.
What do we do with the underpants?
We throw them into the unoccupied lot across the fence.
What do we do after that?
How do we clean ourselves up?
We pick our way through 10 comid teenagers until we find a bathroom? How do we clean ourselves up? We pick our way through 10 comid teenagers
until we find a bathroom in which we can clean ourselves up in the basin.
Are we proud of ourselves?
Surprisingly, yes, yeah.
How can we top this?
What will LA have in store for us this time?
Well, I hope we're not hanging out with teenagers anymore
because we are too old.
Yeah, that's the
God's honest truth of it.
We probably need
to wrap it up.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much
for coming out.
If you are living
in Chicago, Portland
or Los Angeles,
please, but we can't
wait to visit,
please buy a ticket
and check out the shows.
Thank you so much,
New York.
You've been a wonderful audience.
Yes!
We just have a good rhythm together, you know.
He sort of feels me out, I feel him out.
And we go for it.