The Worst Idea Of All Time - 6: Authentic Self w/ Ed Gamble (Overlooked and Undercooked S2E6)

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

Welcome to Rob Schneider's comedy guesses featuring Ed Gamble. Non-Real Rob virgin Ed tries to figure out the production method for the show and wants to know if Rob really knows the name of the featu...red chef in this episode or if they're just calling him the name of a restaurant. Hayley Duff is here and so is a cough from Alice Snedden. Catch Ed’s comedy special, Blood Sugar on Amazon Prime and follow him on Twitter @EdGambleComedy  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What episode was that? Episode 6. Welcome to episode 6 of Overlooked and Undercooked, I believe. My name is Tim Batt. I'm Guy Montgomery and we're recording live in the prestigious Crown Plaza, King's Cross, London England. Just what has been a pretty tremendous break between drinks for us here. Six months I think. At Real Rob Incorporated.
Starting point is 00:00:34 To those of you listening to the season sequentially, we will have probably just hung up our microphones after a conversation with I believe Dan Rath over episode 5, Coffee Beans. Good memory. I remember what happened, too. There we were in Melbourne, and Monty said,
Starting point is 00:00:50 should we go and have a beer? And I said... We'd watched five fucking episodes of Real Rob in a day. I was like, yeah, let's go and have a beer. And then we had a beer, and then we ran out of time. And now we're here in London, and we've got a young upstart, up-and-coming comedian who we've invited to young upstart up-and-coming comedian who we've
Starting point is 00:01:05 invited to a guest on this sort of with this next episode yeah that's right you might know him from off menu or whenever this gets released the current or most recent or second to last or third to last season of taskmaster everybody it's ed gamble oh hey guys hey ed hey ed can i just say the most modern feeling of anxiety in the world is when you're a guest on a podcast, but you're waiting to be introduced and the hosts are introducing it. I don't think we did a particularly good job either of sort of bringing you in. No, I thought it was great. And I thought you got to me quite quickly because I've been on a few where there's like 10 minutes of chat
Starting point is 00:01:41 and they're catching up. Will you often leave sort of little noises on? You know, the worst feeling in the world. I'll laugh even when i don't think it's funny just to be like i'm here remember guys i exist i i kick in the door you know the idea that you're not allowed to introduce yourself on podcasts this isn't radio this isn't some sort of formal medium this is you know that's the point isn't it yeah there's no rule the rule book, throw it out the podcast window. I like following the rules. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I think podcasts have been around long enough now where we need to start following the rules. Name names. Who's keeping you waiting 10 minutes before you're allowed to bring in? Rosie Jones and Helen Bower's podcast. It's called Daddy, Please Look at Me. And it's a very funny podcast, but they were talking for up to 15 minutes. And to keep me quiet while they were talking, Helen Bauer made me do a word puzzle on her phone.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Like a child. That's performance art at that point. Your silence and your enthusiasm for the rules, I'm sure, was probably part of a wider narrative between episodes. I fell for it as well. I was doing the word game. I was like,
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm really enjoying the word game. And I solved it. I was really pleased with myself. The worst of both worlds You're just about to crack the puzzle And then they go Welcome to the podcast Ed Gamble
Starting point is 00:02:49 I hate to move us on prematurely But we're approaching the three minute mark I can't help but notice We haven't broached the sort of format The whole reason detray for us being here So that was episode six of season two of Real Rob Before we launch into a conversation, does anyone here remember the title of the episode?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yes, I do. It was Authentic Self, I believe. That's right. And I guess a place to start would be asking you, what did you, prior to half an hour ago, know about the Real Rob universe? I have seen the first episode of real rob season one season one huh the first episode you didn't stick with it i didn't stick with it no
Starting point is 00:03:32 interestingly i saw it with nish kumar when we lived together we watched it and we couldn't believe it was a thing and even now it seems like some sort of crazy fever dream yeah this does actually put you into quite a sweet spot though because traditionally the first episode of anything it's quite challenging to establish the parameters of the show the world of the show the rules of the show so you know between that and i'd say what is it it'll be you know there's 12 episodes or whatever between that and now yeah how far have we come well i mean i don't feel like i've missed anything in the interim period really i don't there's certain aspects of it now that i don't remember being so prevalent in episode one um here's a question i guess you don't know how they film it but it seems like they
Starting point is 00:04:20 they my friends i think they but they do they do it a take line by line they and they stitch it all together because the pauses between the lines are quite incredible i think yeah rob schneider's in charge and i understand the only way he knows how to operate is sequentially so he's he's literally across every single job on set yeah so if even one cog gets moved out of place, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. But he'll say a line and there'll be a pause. They'll cut to his wife. She'll pause.
Starting point is 00:04:54 She'll say a line and so on and so on. It makes for a pretty good edit though. Can you imagine the editor being in there being like, mate, this is awesome. When you say the editor, do you mean Rob Schneider? When Rob Schneider opens up iMovie, he's got all of these just clean audio points where he can cut to the next shot.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But it's like, my knowledge of Rob Schneider previously was just doing one line in Adam Sandler films. You didn't explore a slightly further off path into his solo vehicles? The animal? The hot chick? No, not seen the hot chick.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Juice Bigelow? I've seen Juice Bigalow. And? Well, it's obviously awful. Did you love it though when you saw it? Oh yeah, I watched it all the way through. It's a huge bitch! You're not allowed to laugh at that. There you go. At the time though. Yeah. This isn't one of those
Starting point is 00:05:39 podcasts, guy. No, I know. You know, do you remember how things were back in the 90s here we go but it's like he's recorded him doing a series of cameo lines in his own sitcom yeah well it's all he knows isn't it yeah so that's when he's most relaxed when he's just like you just come in you do one line so he's just in and out the whole time you know what though so in this episode he laps some fake whiskey because he's in a set on the film and quite a meta sort of analysis of his method many layers deep he looks at like a cat and i have to say it was probably
Starting point is 00:06:11 the strongest performance that he had in there a bit of physical comedy and he was committed to it and i think um as ludicrous as the action was even within context it made zero sense sure but it was the funniest thing he did what so but then he did it again yes so then then he sipped the whiskey and spat it out it's a classic rub what this sitcom has a little bit of a problem with is setting up a joke and then unpacking it yes until the suitcase is empty and then filling the suitcase back up again and unpacking it's like getting in the suitcase euphemistic british language saying what the sitcom has a little bit of a problem so I think what was it
Starting point is 00:06:48 you developed a bit of a catchphrase for what he does what was it it was like five times the charm was like well like you know rule of seven
Starting point is 00:06:56 or something yeah I think it's yeah Rob Schneider's comedy rule of seven yeah I think it's if you
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't know if you try the same gag seven times eventually one of them will hit well that's every scene isn't it so this is the scene with the children in this episode where he goes in to give like a speech to the children about their dreams and excitement and then obviously top line is rob's insensitive to the children do it with all the children out you get including by the way we can't be having that referring to a kid as an Indian kid and the kid says, I'm Pakistani,
Starting point is 00:07:27 and says they're the same thing. This show famously made last year. Just to hear the year of our Lord 2018. The swift pivot from being on set on some film within the TV show to in a classroom delivering a speech. For those listening along who haven't watched the series, maybe just to centre us, you could give us a brief plot synopsis of the episode uh actual self i
Starting point is 00:07:51 would love i would love to best of luck ed i'm praying for you so his wife's away filming something which is that is set up at the beginning of the episode as if that's going to be a major plot point but it is just set up to get her offset for a bit so clearly she she's having some time off i know that i've just given you this task and i hate to immediately interrupt but the storytelling technique he's is literally he launches several balls into the air at the start of the episode and it's whatever he remembers he's well he just well in this episode he's just watched them all fall to the ground he's got like eight balls yeah there's always one in the air but he can never remember what are those balls there for and then it's set up that he's going to this school to give a talk
Starting point is 00:08:38 to them about their excitement projects which i think for any other sitcom that would be that which I think for any other sitcom that would be come on Alice I think for any other sitcom that would be like a whole episode right or like half an episode but it's one scene they set it all up in the scene in the bed at the beginning
Starting point is 00:08:57 him and his wife are talking and you're like we know that's set up his wife's going away and so Rob which is outside of his ordinary purview is responsible for child care and all sorts of sort of domestic chores that are usually beyond his i mean reach and this is a point that tim constantly made throughout the episode is rob has written like this is rob schneider's starring vehicle oh yeah and he has chosen to write the character as you know because we're in a time in television where people embrace antiheroes and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Sure. And he's written a character. But, you know, there's no complexity to this antihero. It's just this, like, unrelenting curmudgeon. But it seems, I think, and I like it. I like an antihero. I like it when people write themselves as arseholes or whatever. So, like, you know, curb your enthusiasm or something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But what he's done, it's like he's writing it as if he thinks he's a good guy exactly so he's writing an arsehole character but by accident yeah
Starting point is 00:09:50 it's a beautiful mind yeah Rob Schneider it's like it's mental illness isn't it because if the very if the very tool
Starting point is 00:09:58 with which you perceive reality is broken then you're really at sea aren't you because then you have no yard your yardstick is broken the looking're really at sea aren't you because then you have no yard your yardstick is broken the looking glass is cracked yes yeah so how will we even determine what a villain is anymore but he's turning a mirror on himself but the mirror is a piece of wood the most beautiful
Starting point is 00:10:18 part of it is though he's circumvented any element of that being a problem in the production process by literally taking control of every facet of the production. At no point can anyone say, Rob, this doesn't work because the only person who's allowed to say that is Rob Schneider himself. So I think there's two more plot points that we need to cover.
Starting point is 00:10:37 One, Adam Sandler calls him and says... Huge for us. Very exciting to see. You guys lost it then. I mean, you know that Adam Sandler had 100 unanswered emails. Fine, if you'll stop getting in touch with me, I'll fucking drop in for a scene. I'll only film the scene by myself on the phone.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And it's on a green screen. Well, he's got two scenes and one of them's obviously a green screen. But also, it really makes you appreciate Adam Sandler. He is such a good guy when you put him up against Schneider's performance it's mind blowing
Starting point is 00:11:09 isn't it yeah so are you well about the Sandman he's not Rob Schneider and that's important yeah so he's sort of
Starting point is 00:11:18 because I think one of the elements of pathos we meant to care about is Rob's career is kind of stalling his wife's career seems to be kicking off
Starting point is 00:11:24 she was in that soap opera the last episode. The soap opera's flown her out to San Diego to shoot the finale or whatever. And Adam Sandler, so successful that nothing matters to him. His life is, like, you know, there's... We see him, he's flying a big old drone, kicking back in a lounger. Which is what we'd all do if we had this money, right? Yeah, and he's got the chef from Nobu at his house. He brings out a plate of sushi and he goes, I wanted this for the chef from nobu yeah at his house he brings a plate of
Starting point is 00:11:45 sushi and he goes i wanted this for later was i supposed to know what nobu was because i just assumed i had missed something earlier in the year it's a it's a i think it's a semi-famous uh californian sushi eatery that's quite like there's one in london too like kind of michelin star yeah like yeah really nice sushi like food. Here's what I want to know. Is there a chef actually called Nobu? Is that who that guy was? Or was it just a Japanese man? I think undoubtedly option B.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Because it's bad enough just getting a random guy to be the stand-in for the chef, but if they're just calling a random guy the name of the restaurant... No, because that's half the gag in this is that these racism well yeah it's a good always they're assholes like adam sandler seems to be enjoying playing himself and to be fair that's something that adam sandler enjoys doing he constantly well he's relishing i think he can do it from the place of security. He is actually a good guy. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Like, if you've seen 100% Fresh, his... What's that? It's his Netflix special. Sandler's special? Oh, was that that awesome one that he did recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah. His humanity and his love of his family
Starting point is 00:12:57 shines through the whole thing. Yeah. What Rob Schneider has shown off of his relationship to his family is just, like, unwavering resentment and fury at the life he has created for himself and disgust at every component part of it he's very bitter isn't he he feels like a man who has made his bed and hates the bed yeah he's pissed in the like it's no one's fault it's an unforced error but you can kind of understand how he got there emotionally
Starting point is 00:13:25 because, as Guy mentioned earlier, he did have a string of commercial hits. I owned three of his movies on VHS. I was a Schneider fan. Yeah. There was a time when I'd see anything he made. And I'm sort of going back in the archives now a little bit, but from memory of our research,
Starting point is 00:13:44 they dropped him from grown-ups too because of some unpleasantness, I think. There was some sort of miscommunication, but he's in Sandler's, you know, like that. I think, you know. He's in the special, is he? He's in the special. He sort of does one line.
Starting point is 00:13:59 He flies in. He flies in on some sort of, is it not a trapeze? What's it called when people fly? What is it called when people fly what's it called when people fly it's on a wire on a wire they're called wires wings
Starting point is 00:14:09 we've derailed the plot the plot summation once more yeah because we've not even hit the actual main plot strand
Starting point is 00:14:16 which is he's filming an independent movie right oh yeah so how did that I think I might have been opening a beer very
Starting point is 00:14:21 focused on that when that happened what happened there he's just there's no other set setup other than he's filming an independent movie but the through line is he so when he's reckoning with his jealousy of his wife's success he's like well i've got this you know i've got this great role in this independent thing and then when he's talking to sandler and sandler goes i'm going to greece i'm going to go on holiday i'm doing whatever the fuck i want because i met him sandler he's going yeah well i've sort of got this role i'm
Starting point is 00:14:43 still independent so you know this is like I think he's using it to temper jealousy but then the second half of the episode with absolutely no set up for it and the very long 16 minute first half
Starting point is 00:14:55 of the episode is him on set and it's a it's a testament to this episode that Sandler's barely even the biggest draw on screen
Starting point is 00:15:03 in terms of cameos Michael Madsen yeah. Michael Madsen. Yeah. Actual Michael Madsen rocks up. He just looks incredible. He looks mad. Runs through that scene. It's not a long one, but it feels like a lot is in there.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What does Rob Schneider have on Michael Madsen? What are you doing here, Michael? I don't really know. Michael Madsen is in every Quentin Tarantino film. But I don't know, apart from that, what he's actually doing. So I think he's ready to go. When Rob Schneider drops you an email,
Starting point is 00:15:30 you're going to play yourself. Sounds like a lot of fun. You're going to play yourself. We're going to shoot it sequentially. In and out. I realise he's a good actor. Funnily enough, I sort of missed his role, but Alice Nen was helpfully watching the episode with us as well
Starting point is 00:15:44 and providing some colour commentary, as we we call it but we had just seen um alice nennan beaming after retreating into her shell for that cough that we just saw we just saw once upon a time in hollywood the latest tarantino movie obviously he's he's a really fantastic actor but it felt beyond acting the rueful anger which he directs at Rob Schneider in the scene which is all about Rob Schneider kind of being a piece of shit on set and it felt a bit too real oh it was definitely real
Starting point is 00:16:16 and also he was clearly just doing every line once so there's a couple of lines where he genuinely loses his way halfway through a line and then finds his way back and they just let that run we've got one go at all of these yeah no one's going all right do you just want to do that again clean just get that clean well because i there's a hit him for 20 minutes they're they use that brilliant uh sort of cinematic device when they transition from you know watching the process of the movie being made
Starting point is 00:16:44 on a tv show to actually filming the movie they change from color to black and white because it's the sort of gritty mafia movie but they all the mistakes are in that as well which suggests that they have edited them and put them through a grading process absolutely ready for the movie and just yeah just leave that in the bit where he licks licks the whiskey yeah and so the first take they do and he licks the whiskey like it and it sort of breaks the whole momentum of the scene and they stop and everyone's like, what the fuck was that?
Starting point is 00:17:08 And he goes, well, I had a sip. And they go, no, you were drinking it like a cat. That's what a cat does. And he's like, oh, okay, we'll do it again. And they do it again.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And the next time he does this thing where he sort of dribbles it out of his mouth back into the cup after actually taking a swig. And Michael Madsen's reaction, I've never seen anything on screen straddle the line
Starting point is 00:17:23 between performance and reality. Like he was literally caught in purgatory where he was he was like angry and laughing as himself and as the character on the show and it's so obvious that they couldn't shoot it again because they just had him for one line but so he'd received no direction as to how the character of michael madison should be. So he was like angry, but then laughing and then angry and laughing all at the same time. And then he was angry and went to his trailer. It doesn't sound like a weird thing when you say it out loud, but folks, you've got to watch this one clip. It's fucking wild. Just this reaction that he has.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Also, just while we're talking about celebrities in the show, a small subplot that went absolutely nowhere to, not my surprise, but minor frustration, is that Jamie, the much put upon assistant, is given this really promising romantic lead in the form of a yoga instructor and fellow vegetarian on set, played by Hayley Duff, most famous, sadly, for her, but not for us, for being Hilary Duff's sister. And then they sort of set it up like oh my god yeah you know and then knowing our relationship to him through the show
Starting point is 00:18:30 it's like well it's all gonna go horribly long wrong in a very you know physically painful and funny way purportedly funny way for us it's one of those balls that he forgot yeah that was one of the balls for sure because you guys had set his character up for me like something always goes wrong with this guy he's gonna get electrocuted he's gonna get burnt and then he squatted for a yoga move and she left
Starting point is 00:18:52 and you guys were like here we go something bad's gonna happen so I was like what's gonna happen he's gonna sit on a spike his pants are gonna rip off and a crow's gonna come down
Starting point is 00:19:00 and peck his balls I thought he was gonna shit himself I would have put money on it I would have beat you 20 pounds yeah i thought the eggplant that she gave him for lunch the vegetarian option is the setup folks but what happens is rob schneider comes along and says oh you look a bit silly sometimes the thing that goes wrong in a storyline is that rob schneider forgets to finish writing them it's a kind of a punch line isn't it it's like he's written that whole scene and then on the set he's gone how about i just come on instead yeah how about we forget that and i come on
Starting point is 00:19:28 me i'll riff something i'll riff something it'll be fine that is what it's like isn't it he's behind camera he calls action on a scene it starts happening and he's like oh i think i can get in there i got something literally walked around from behind frame and just goes and tanks the whole thing and goes yeah cut next that's definitely what happened with the apple juice licking scene where he's licking the whiskey apple juice and then they're like right that's in the script and he's like i've got another one and then he spits it out and then the spitting thing as well there's actually there's there's a bit of movie magic that's gone into it because he's spitting for a um impossibly long amount of time so they've put a tube out of you know on the other side of his face away from the camera to make it go truly yeah they keep the shot going for so
Starting point is 00:20:14 like he takes a little sip it doesn't go on long enough to justify a tube absolutely not it's just long enough so that you know they've done something but not long enough to be funny or have any particular reason. But it's just like, it's this constant reminder that people exist creating the show that's really depressing to me. You miss 100% of the guesses you don't take. What really depresses me
Starting point is 00:20:39 is that's what Rob Schneider, that's how he treats comedy. It's a huge mystery. I had a good run In the late 90s Where I took a lot of guesses And people were into it Well yeah like
Starting point is 00:20:50 But then I lost it Fuck It's the most unlikely Law of averages But it does feel like There was a time there When he was You know like
Starting point is 00:20:55 It doesn't feel like He's in control Of any of the decisions He's making If you explain What the animal is That's not funny But he did it
Starting point is 00:21:02 And it worked And it made a lot of money yeah and he was he was acting opposite the the female lead in the movie the animal was uh probably the second most popular female contestant from the first season of survivor who had no history of acting whatsoever wow we made things different back then didn't we i feel really bad for the people who are bit pots in this show because they would have been really excited that they're on a show. You Hayley Duffs?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Not even Hayley Duffs. I'm talking the guy who plays the runner. Oh, yeah. So he's all eager and he's pretty good. There's nothing wrong with what he's doing. But he's like, I'm on a show, I'm on a show, and then it's real Rob. I think they'd be down with it because, and I can't remember the specifics,
Starting point is 00:21:44 but maybe I should look them up during the next episode. But we get sent by the people who listen to this podcast and behind the scenes stuff. And apparently people are getting fucked over left, right and centre who are making this. It's very low budget in spite of the fact that it is a Netflix commissioned show. Not commissioned by. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Guy and I believe that Rob Schneider has given them a show and some money to get it onto Netflix. And the transaction's slightly different to the norm. But they must be, if they are paying for it, it will not be much money. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:18 He's got no sense of business. No. He's making a show fully and then bringing it to Netflix. This thing arrived at Netflix on a flash drive wrapped up in a $20 bill the bargaining system that's going on there where he goes
Starting point is 00:22:31 well here's a fully produced series and they go alright we'll pay $10 for it and he goes you mean you're giving me the $10 no I want more than that and they're like well you've made it already there's nothing you can do in this situation. I can't believe I did this two seasons in a row.
Starting point is 00:22:48 It's like Garth Marenghi. So Garth Marenghi's Dark Place, the joke is that they just went ahead and made the show. So there's a line where Richard Ayoade says, we didn't know you had to wait. We just went ahead and made it and then wanted to see who wanted it. But this is to your point that the people who you know you feel slighted on their behalf the people who featured
Starting point is 00:23:10 in it all right these are not you know i wouldn't say they're real actors they're people who are pursuing a career in acting who maybe would not otherwise get on anything and i think they'd be very happy to have that credit on imdb i don't't know. It'd be like if I was on it. I'd be fucking stoked. Well, that's got to be the end of this podcast. That would be an enjoyable sort of cultural oddity. I don't know that you would be stoked. I'd be stoked.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I remember, because we've spoken about the supporting players and passing on this before, and it's interesting to me. This is ostensibly a comedy show, and usually on any comedy show, more specifically in the first season you'd populate it with people who you know are funny from like the comedy industry or scene who will later go on to become successful performers he is batting at zero percent in terms of picking performers who will come on and steal a scene or like you know i know that he's not they're not given a lot to play with it's another guess isn't it he's guessing in the
Starting point is 00:24:09 casting as well i mean yeah that one guy's only line is yeah we've got vegetarian options hot dog or burger buns we relish and that's it and he's out his but see those performances are more uh in keeping with the overall tone like because that guy did not feel like a performer. He felt like someone who obviously go stand behind that food and say this stuff. He was a sayer. Yeah. And that is more in keeping with the show than say the guy who was the
Starting point is 00:24:38 runner and was doing all these jobs. So he tells Rob, he doesn't have a trailer who is actually giving in some sort of acting or comedic performance. And you see it and you're like, this is, I think this is where that feeling of unease and sorrow comes from because it's like you're trying and it's not fair Rob's not trying
Starting point is 00:24:52 no one else is it's awful although there is a believability to Rob's performance because he well it's real Rob it is real Rob the clue was on the tin the whole time but you can tell that he is, in real life,
Starting point is 00:25:07 a narcissistic piece of shit because he wears his... He's not an intelligent man. This is what I can't escape. The thing about... I interviewed him once on the radio. Did you? I talked to him for about half an hour.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I had to cut it into like six minutes to put on a rock music station a few years ago. He's real into Buddhism and sort of Eastern religions, but he's not a deep thinker at all. In theory, he is. It's a nice thing to say. It's not something he's comfortable being asked about.
Starting point is 00:25:35 No, and we watched a clip last night. He's an anti-vaxxer as well, but he actually had a pretty fucking articulate sort of semi-libertarian slant on why. He talked Tim around. Hey, play the tape back. You were convinced, mate. Oh, look,
Starting point is 00:25:50 I was just looking for something to say. Why is none of that stuff making it into Real Rob? That would be kind of good, but it seeps in because the thing about the organic apple juice,
Starting point is 00:25:58 that's all these little things that seep in from his real life. But he doesn't have the attention span to stick to any of these through lines because he does at the start of the episode. That was actually,
Starting point is 00:26:08 for those of you playing along at home, we had a false start where we started watching the last episode when we were trying to figure out where we got up to. And his wife's saying, I'm going to go to Mexico or the Bahamas. And he goes, yeah, well, that's fine
Starting point is 00:26:20 if you want to get, you know, like the idea that he's got all these conspiratorial ideas on things that'll make you sick. So it really it's really interesting because he i would assume he's writing that as as a character point to be an arsehole so like the bag of organic food i'm like he's gone what what would a dickhead version of me do but he's actually just putting in his genuine it's real rob so that is wow yeah this shows so much better than i thought yeah so so rob schneider um i think we could probably say quite definitively now is exactly the kind of
Starting point is 00:26:51 dude who's on facebook and that he has been targeted by all of those fake news websites and he's reading a headline or maybe the first paragraph of everything and he's formed a web of lies in his head that explains the world he's got the time to take it all on board yeah and turn it into one quarter formed opinion and you do he does there are episodes where he you know like you see him on the computer half researching some fucking whacked out thing so he's sort of got an awareness of it but again he just i think lacks the intelligence to sort of see it the whole way through this does open up the idea that for this show to work or be remotely interesting all it needs is to become a genuine documentary yeah give someone else the camera yeah 100 give jamie the camera give jamie the camera and film the writer's room it's because i'll watch that happily it's the the thing that
Starting point is 00:27:43 is blocking the show from operating it It's like he's the self... He's the filter. He still doesn't know that he looks like an arsehole on the show, but he's still afraid that he will, or he's afraid he'll look stupid. He's not far off as well, eh? It only needs to be half a step beyond what it is. It's amazing that he lets half of that come out as well.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He says cunt in this episode. That was big. The most convincing acting performance he turns in is all the lines of dismissive insults he's written for himself yeah and like it's sort of the insolence with which he treats those around him those are like when he goes are you fucking idiot it's like yeah you believe that yeah yeah that just came out exactly so what like uh comparing this to the pilot episode ed do you think there's been any progress has he learned any lessons along the way?
Starting point is 00:28:26 In terms of storytelling? In terms of storytelling. Putting a show together. But I can't even remember what the story was of the pilot. What was your initial take on the pilot? Well, it's truly dreadful stuff. We couldn't believe what he was trying to...
Starting point is 00:28:40 So, they're not talking heads in this? No, but they were. So, there used to be early doors there was talking heads there was another Rob guess there was the sound stage stand up
Starting point is 00:28:50 so it was interspersed with like Kardashian style talking heads also him doing stand up like a Seinfeld or Louis type thing it was having a go at every show right at one basically yeah
Starting point is 00:29:03 and then he sort of and the big thing because you mentioned that, I just thought that's probably him doing Everybody Loves Ray. Yeah. Mind. Mind. Was that the name of the show? Everybody Loves Raymond.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh, yeah, sure. I thought it was right. Yeah, yeah. I think you've been confused. The amount of comedic talent we've packed into this hotel room. So, you know, off mic we have Alice Sneddon and Ray Badgeran Ray Badgeran is vertical
Starting point is 00:29:27 or he's sort of no horizontal but you're at a right angle he's stretching his legs out against the wall if we spent the amount of time we did consuming Rob Schneider
Starting point is 00:29:36 just trying to come up with one idea between the five of us that we wanted to create we can make something so much better the joke truly is on us isn't it
Starting point is 00:29:44 as it always is. And that's why we can say these horrible things about Rob Schneider and his beautiful family. Yeah, I just remember thinking how much he was trying to do Modern Family with the first episode. I mean, there are some comparisons anyway. I don't think I knew that was his real wife until today.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So it seemed so much like Modern Family because it's like an older guy with like a uh a hot wife yeah from latin from latin america who's way out of his league and they live in a nice house and they do those outside of house shots as well to establish a new scene which nothing will happen and the way scenes move on in this is absolutely incredible like and like you said if there's no if there was no music in it it would be the maddest show of all time. Yeah, to punctuate the end of the scene, they will just keep coming back to the same electro swing.
Starting point is 00:30:32 They've paid for the rights to use one track. One clip, yeah. And it's the same one from the first season too. They haven't changed it. If it ain't broke. Is it not a test? I mean, he has learned in that he has removed the talking heads
Starting point is 00:30:45 he has removed the stand up on a soundstage he's not replaced him with anything no yeah and it's not that he's concentrated the time he was spending writing
Starting point is 00:30:51 or performing those scenes on getting the other stuff right it's just that they're no longer there it's a good tip if you're making art to put every idea you've ever had
Starting point is 00:30:59 into one thing and then just strip them away one by one and then keep going until you lose interest until it's just a husk. So I would recommend watching this particular episode. For the cameos.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Stan's in this one. You can't go past there. Is there anything that you enjoyed that you'd like to recount before we... I think I'm aware that we're on a bit of a... This much comedic talent packed into a room. We're essentially holding some of these people hostage. The highlight was Madsen for me, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:28 The Madsen cameo is absolutely astonishing. For the surprise, the shock factor, or for the actual cameo itself? For the shock factor, and then I think he really delivered on the cameo. The sort of stasis he was caught in in that reaction is genuinely worth a watch. He almost represents the real world in the way
Starting point is 00:31:45 he performs. It's like he didn't know whether it was a documentary or a sitcom. Yeah. So they didn't tell him to get the most real performance out of Impossible. Yeah. It just strikes me that they hit him for 15 to 20 minutes. Oh yeah, for sure. And they used every frame that you see
Starting point is 00:32:02 as everything they could get. He walked straight. They slapped a mic on him as soon as he was through the door. That's why he's so confused. Those are his own clothes. Yeah. There was no costume on that day. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And that was a genuine walk off at the end of his scene. Yeah. They never saw him again. What a show, though. You know, they got it finished. It's all there. It's in focus. I can't get away from the fact that it's all in focus on this show. You know, it's in focus. There's no there it's in focus I can't get away from the fact it's all in focus
Starting point is 00:32:25 on this show you know it's in focus there's no denying it it's all lit I might have to watch the next episode to see if the yoga
Starting point is 00:32:34 instructor comes back she won't let me tell you I don't know I believe in him man I think he's gonna pull it out of the bag those are the plot devices
Starting point is 00:32:43 those are the hooks that keep fans watching for more it's like whether or not a character will reappear um i'm not averse to putting money on this let me know because i i might watch another episode all right let them know right now 20 quid that she does not reappear all right done you're on that's a great thing um if people want to keep in touch with you, how can they do that? What's your phone number? If you want to get in contact
Starting point is 00:33:07 with me directly. Plus 44. We don't say that weirdly. You can hit me up. Yeah, there's something you
Starting point is 00:33:16 can say. You are coffee, D'Amel. I bet lots of our listeners are going to hit you up, old man.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You can contact me on Twitter at AdGambleComedy. And you've got a... I forgot to say at the start of the episode, you've also got a new stand-up special streaming on Amazon Prime. Yes, it's called Real Ad. It's not. It's called Blood Sugar
Starting point is 00:33:42 and it's available on Amazon Prime. Well, thank you so much. It's great to be back in the saddle, as great as it can be. And I'd like to sign off this episode by saying, Roger Daltrey took a shit in my guest house.

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