The Worst Idea Of All Time - 7: Who Loves You w/ Ray Badran (Overlooked and Undercooked S2E7)

Episode Date: November 22, 2019

Ray looks great but he can't understand why Rob's gearing a God damn suit all the time. Jamie gets a pass this epsiode, Rob gets belittled and smashes a guy's knees with a bowling ball. Ray can't believe a) This show is on Netflix, b) This is season two. We've got a delightful anecdote about comedy classes and bathrooms.Follow Ray on Twitter @RayBadran   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today. You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer. Everybody run! Ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing.

And welcome along to another exciting episode of Overlooked and Undercooked. Episode 7, same hotel room, same timeline as the previous episode with Ed Gamble. In fact, our guest for this episode was in the room for half of that episode. Cameoed, made a little remark to Tim at one point There were asides And now he's front and centre He's got a microphone in his hand Please welcome to the podcast

The brilliant Ray Badron Thanks for having me Thanks Hey Tim, how are you? G'day Ray It's nice to see you I don't think I've seen you for some time actually I commented that you look different

You look svelte. I've lost a bit of weight, yeah. Yeah, that's all right. Was that intentional or is that part of that thing that can happen when you're a comedian? You move overseas and you don't have any money

and things go south. No, it was intentional and it was intentional and it took a bit of a year or so but yeah, it was all right. To be clear as well, you look great and that's what I said when you walked in.

I said, Ray, you look great. You don't look poor. You look great. I that's what I said when you walked in. I said, Ray, you look great. You don't look poor. You look great. I don't love this chat about me. Fair enough. I love the attention, but not about the appearance. I understand. You haven't really spent enough time with one.

I mean, the only time you've spent together in this room has been consuming real Rob. So it's hard for him to have a sort of cosmic sense of how you're doing. That's very true, actually. And it's very complimentary. So I'm not... Although I think of everyone we've watched the show with,

you did seem to find the most to laugh at. Well, you know, you guys... Because I heard the second half of the last podcast and you guys were so harsh on it and Rob Snyder. I was like, well, it can't be... Don't be afraid to actually talk into the microphone. Oh, all right. Yeah, sorry. I said, it can't be that like, well, it can't be. Don't be afraid to actually talk into the microphone. Oh, all right, yeah, sorry. I said, it can't be that bad.

I thought it can't be. And then I watched it, and the first 10 minutes, I was like, oh, this is worse than they actually described. And then second half, there's some funny moments, some funny little, you know.

Do you know what's mad, though, about this particular guest we've got on this particular episode is that the three of us actually kind of made a show not formatically that dissimilar from what Rob sort of tried to do. What do you mean? Like a heightened situational comedy starring Ray Badger, co-starring Guy Montgomery,

that I think is probably still available on Australian Comedy Central, made on the whiff of an oily rag. It should be. It was called No Experience Necessary. What I produced, I think, from memory. Did he talk to camera, like, break the fourth wall, like that? He used to. A lot?

No, they used to be talking heads, but they scrapped that sometime in the first season. And to be fair, there was a moment early in this episode where it seemed like he was barrelling the camera and talking to us, the audience, but I think it was just sloppy movie making and he was actually looking just off of camera and talking as though to someone. And so he wrote and produced this himself.

He wrote, yeah, he did. Directed? Directed. Oh, did he? He directs it, he writes it, he stars in it, he produces it, he bankrolls it. The whole thing. What's the budget for an episode, dudes? Why wouldn't they retake shit?

Why wouldn't they, you know, when they make so many mistakes? Well, we're just assuming they haven't based on what we see on the screen. But an even more devastating truth could be that that is the fifth attempt at getting the right answer. No, he said the word... He didn't even say the word right, what was the word? Anarchy. Anarchy. Talk for a while would you?

He had a lot of lines to learn in that particular monologue and there were no cutaway options. What was funny is this line, if you haven't seen the show just this line it is quite funny, one of the characters said, Rob's assistant said to his uh soon-to-be fiance when uh when that bear almost ate your brains out i knew i loved you and i got a bit of a laugh from that yeah i did have a bit of a laugh from that

i can hear tim having a bit of a laugh it's a funny line you can put next to it you can put next to it mark twain you can put like someone you know you can put that and you'd be like oh You're a big believer that funny is funny You said it doesn't matter where it doesn't matter what the context that's funny that's funny on the page Well the other thing about the show

it's hard to tell because you know Juice Bigelow and like the movies and stuff like that it's just absurd humour all the time and the jokes so over the top. And then there are times where there's things like that in the show, but then most of it seems to be pretty grounded in reality and like almost dark humour at times and stuff

and like sort of curb-esque style. But it's not... But then sometimes it's just so absurd. Like, I don't really quite... It's tonally confused. I was going to figure out the tone. But then that line's just so absurd. I don't really quite be tonally confused. I was going to figure out the tone. But then that line I was saying would be funny in any context. I would argue it wasn't funny on the screen and it's still not funny when you're saying it right now.

I mean, there's alliteration to it. There's a lot of things, you know. Brains, bears. I don't think they see brains though that's the thing no he definitely did yeah i think yeah um so beyond that line what what else did you i mean could you because i feel like and this might not be fair i took a few photos of you while you were watching the show that isn't fair and uh it appeared to me that you maybe weren't invested in it the whole way through no i, I zoned out a couple of times.

It's hard to follow the story. I mean, because I just came in so late in season, I mean, I don't know. Are all the episodes connected or not at all? I think it's quite unreasonable for you to expect, you know, to understand more or less than anyone else watching this particular episode. There's no genuine through line.

There's no arc. There's no character development. Well, Rob Snyder, I didn't know. I didn't really realize he was playing himself there's no genuine through line there's no arc there's no character development well rob snyder i didn't know i didn't really realize he was playing himself or a higher version of himself i fully understand the sense of confusion because we we bring on a you know a different special guest each episode but the thing that's important to remember is that guy and i feel that same sense of confusion having the entire context of the previous season and a half. There's no rhythm or rhyme.

I mean, they've got a character. I just... Ed Gamble was too much of a gentleman to take my money, but I bet him that they wouldn't have a character that recurred over two episodes, such as my lack of faith in this show. Oh, wow. And she did come back.

Everything came back. That was quite a self... Like a well-contained episode, that one. Started with the bear. It didn't start with the bear. It started with him, the assistant going camping. He's going camping. I like the fact that they're playing themselves.

I like that. Why is this bar? You've set the show to clear. I'm trying to be nice to the show because you were so mean to it last time. You start at the beginning. You tell us what happened in that episode. Tell us the plot. Oh, what happened in that episode?

He's talking to the assistant and the assistant says, I want to borrow your lantern. And he's like, you can't borrow my lantern. Oh, this was the fucking horrible part. And I was like, this is... He goes, what happens if there's an electromagnetic storm or some shit like this? And the sun shoots out rays and destroys all...

And I'm not making this worse, if anything, if you're listening, I'm making this better. I'm dumbing this down. It was like- So many chip crumbs on you. Oh, I did eat a lot of chip crumbs. What's that? It's still weird.

Oh, that's a big one. I've interrupted you. I'm sorry. I don't know that he was on a roll. No, I- All right. So they had this conversation about the lamp. Yes, and he says,

what happens if there's an electromagnetic storm and the sun cuts off all the power in the whole world? What will I use then? Then we'll be screwed. And the guy's like, oh... And he goes, you can't borrow my lamp. Then they lend him the lamp. They lend him the lamp.

So you think this is a whole weird first five-minute sequence. And the wife actually lends him the lamp because he's going camping with, who I find out from you guys, is a yoga teacher. But yeah, he's going on a camping trip with her. So two episodes. How long have they known each other?

Two episodes. Since an episode ago. Wow. Camping second date's pretty big. It's hard to figure out how much time is left between episodes because there is a huge... I mean... That's the other thing. Rob Snyder's wearing a suit at the beginning. He's hard to figure out how much time is left between episodes because that is a huge, I mean. That's the other thing.

Rob Snider's wearing a suit at the beginning. Like, he's always wearing a fucking suit. You know, people in shows in America, they wear suits a lot. You know, like, they're always wearing,

how often do you wear a suit? You never wear a fucking suit. You know, like a wedding and stuff like that. They wear them, like, to breakfast. He's having breakfast and he's wearing a suit.

It doesn't take much to justify why the character would wear a suit. Even if you were going to wear a suit that day, you wouldn't have worn the suit to breakfast like he wore it. The tie was done up so perfectly. You would never wear it. You would go down without the jacket on, without the tie, if you were wearing a suit every day.

Then he wears that suit at the end and I'm like, why the fuck is he wearing another suit with a big purple tie and he's going for the big meeting? And I get that, that's the through line with a bit of a... What, the suit is the through line? Yeah, the suit.

So there's the end of the first scene. Right, you fucking lost it, mate. There's the end of the first scene. It's sort of like the... No, no, the through line, the through line is fucking Rob Steiner going for the meeting. It's Rob Steiner's career and he's trying to get it back on track and it's meant of like the through line the through line it's fucking Rob Snyder going for the meeting it's Rob Snyder's

career and he's trying to get it back on track and it's meant to be a big sob story and like oh no this is his first break and like an

insight to his mind or some shit like that did you feel sympathy for him of course not he's a fucking narcissistic

Hollywood like you know oh I'm gonna get a big break anyway he's a maniac isn't he but um but this episode features an interesting feature which is someone worse than Rob you know, oh, I'm going to get a big break. Anyway. He's a maniac, isn't he? But, um,

no, you can say, Features an interesting feature, which is someone worse than Rob, I would argue. Who's worse than Rob? Oh, as a human being.

Yeah, the dude, the Mexican co-star. Oh, the director. No, no, the fucking dude starring alongside Rob Schneider's wife.

Oh, yeah, yeah, but he's so much of a caricature, like he's not based in reality. Like, Rob Schneider's like, Patricia. Yeah, but he's so much of a caricature. He's not based in reality. Rob Schneider, this guy's just a crazy side character. He sniffs all girls' hair. He keeps sniffing the hair.

It's a character we've seen before. It's the co-star in Patricia's soap opera, and it's someone that we know Rob is jealous of. And he's a stud. They've flown to Mexico. He's flown to support her. Hot stuff. Yeah, on this talk uh junket that she's doing and he's watching he's watching in the green room as they do this sort of interview and this guy is draping himself all over patricia he's like

giving her back he's putting yeah putting her hand on his face he's sniffing her hair on camera he sniffs not just her hair like and that And that was the other part where you're like, it started in reality and then it's kind of getting absurd. But I don't think you mentioned it when we were watching.

This is their attempt at subtle. But yeah, he was meant to be flirting with her on camera and he's sniffing her hair as if that's even, that's not even absurd.

That's not even in the range of flirting. You know? That's how Rob Schneider seduces women. So it's like you can't even accept him as anything other than a cartoon, basically. I think the best character is the assistant. And I'm guessing he's the one with the least experience out of anyone in the show. As a performer, he's come a long way.

Because on reflecting on his performance in the first season, said it was the worst thing he's ever done. Did he? Had he ever acted before? I don't think so. You wouldn't think so. I think he's better than the wife or Rob Schneider. He's better than the wife or Rob Schneider.

Well, it's that interesting thing, isn't it? That a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and what Jamie has is no knowledge at all. So it's sort of less dangerous. I also think more than that, the reason you might have warmed to him in this episode is because, like you said, we're sort of stuck in this storyline

where Rob is very jealous of the co-star and he's sort of behaving in a very reprehensible way, but no one's calling him out. He's sort of getting away with it. And Rob... Got away with it. He gets angrier and angrier. Destroying his knee.

Yeah, and so Rob's like, they're tempering bowling, and this guy keeps bowling strikes, and Rob keeps bowling gutter balls, and eventually Rob gets so angry. To be fair, he is being incredibly antagonistic to Rob. Oh, absolutely. And, you know, you do eventually, yeah, you said at one point, you said, they've done the impossible, I feel bad for Rob. But then Rob undoes all of that on his backswing for one of his bowls,

slams the ball into his knee and in what is one of the most graphic sort of pieces of visual storytelling this show has deigned to deliver you see the knee

get pushed backwards I beyond high priest it snaps it snaps into like an angle but so this I guess what I'm trying to say

this storyline isn't tethered to reality it's sort of like it's not absurd it's not real it's just it's in no it's not real it's just it's in no man's land but then the reason you would warm to Jamie

is all of a sudden we're on camp and we're watching the opening stages of a genuine romance like the storyline it's very clear what they're doing there it's like two people

who are falling in love with each other and finding out how to communicate it to each other it's a fucking oasis of a relatable storyline inside this bizarre world all up to because before he goes camping

apart from the lamp Patricia Rob's wife offers to give him a is it called a beluga? a beretta a beluga is a type of whale

I believe a beretta is like a tiny little so I mean there was a lot of shit that happened I forgot about this I forgot about these scenes

actually he gets offered a gun and then Rob offers him a tiny knife he used to take on scouts trips. Rob also belittles him at one point as well. He's not a great manager. I think he gets the director's name

of the job that comes in. Rob belittles. Half of the gags in this are Rob belittling Jamie. So they go camping and it's all very real and quite relatable until this bear interrupts their their moment

and oh the bear's great and here's the set up I think it's is it a Werner Herzog movie oh yeah the grizzly man

yeah where spoiler alert a dude gets fucking eaten by a bear yeah who hangs out with grizzly bears for ages and they sort of

reference it and have a big chat about it which sets up you know kind of the set up and the punchline is that the eventual fiance of Jamie gets fucking mauled

which is amazing it's outrageous truly outrageous he proposes to her after she's been mauled by a bear and while she's probably losing quite a lot of blood is this

in the other episodes is there like curb sort of like probably losing quite a lot of blood is this in the other episodes is there like Curb sort of like it felt like a lot of he was heavily inspired by Curb it's very obvious that he's been inspired by Curb your enthusiasm what is not as obvious is whether or not he's watched a whole episode of Curb your enthusiasm through or has any understanding

of what makes that show function well like the gags in between and all the dialogue gags it's just it's rob snyder's gags and then they just don't fit or then i don't know it just doesn't so right as someone who has made a uh you know a tv show about a heightened version of themselves yeah as a comedy performer you know did you did any of that connect with you the sort of the difficulties of putting that on screen? Oh, totally.

When I look back at that, if how I would improve it, I'd be, I mean, apart from flying in from England and like the day before and stuff like that, I would reduce how much, I mean, it was so low budget, so no, but like if we could all reduce, in particular, if I could have reduced the amount that I had to do beforehand, I could have focused a little bit more on the acting of it and stuff.

But we improvised our lines for the most part. And I feel like that gave it a pretty good organic tone, whereas that's sort of obviously like with that Anarchy line that got stuffed up. Anarchy. Yeah, he's written big like sort of dialogue things they've got to hit and he doesn't hear them about the um the solar flares knocking out the electricity and in chaos and searing was um it was quite the tear he was on considering he does like directing as

well and all that i mean you know it is absolute dog shit and the first 10 minutes of this show it was it i could not believe when I saw Netflix come up afterwards. I couldn't believe it was on. I just couldn't. And then when it finished with season two, it's so shit. So I'm not... But Rob Snyder himself doesn't do the worst job

like as given... The character's fucked. And the story's fucked. And the dialogue's fucked no but that is Rob Schoen doing the worst job because that's the job he's given himself

if you're in charge of everything you don't get credit for parts of what you're in charge of not being as bad as other parts of it yeah that's true

yeah I suppose maybe he focuses too far on like the acting or how he presents he's talking to the microphone Ray come on oh sorry yeah I know

oh you know I did a gig last night even now you're not talking to the microphone I did a gig on. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I know. Oh, you know, I did a gig last night. Even now, you're not talking I did a gig last night and this is quite ironic. Even now? How?

How? I can't, I'm going to be eating it. So I did a gig last night at a comedy club in London and in the toilets they had a poster

that ran a comedy class there or some shit like that on one day. Do you believe in comedy classes? No, but I don't not. Can you teach funny? I don't not. Oh, yeah, you can, but I don't.

Or you can teach people the system to get good at stand-up. I mean, whether how funny or not they are is pretty subjective. But, yeah, I'm against them them but not like hard out against them like they shouldn't exist if you were teaching a comedy class what would be what would be the basics you'd teach someone i just i well i once the in sydney the they got funding um by the city of sydney the sydney comedy festival did and And so Michael Workman and I taught a class of stand-up comedy, which was pretty funny.

So I had a few students out there, a couple of protégés out there, just running around. That's Alison. I've got a couple of protégés out there. Alison is absolutely losing her mind. And what tips did you give the protégés? Mate, I said, you know,

I mean, I'm trying to think of some funny shit now that we did, but no, I was just, I mean, I was very self-effacing. I said I shouldn't have been there and I shouldn't have been doing it and stuff like that. This is an awful lesson. I know, but I didn't want to tell them like I knew everything. I think Workman or Cassie, but Michael at the time, he was so adamant uh

he was so like passionate about like what had to happen and stuff like that and i was kind of like this started with you beginning to tell an anecdote about what happened last night you said about the microphone the microphone i'm not blaming you i just want to hear what ironically all i was going to say was ironically i was in the bathroom last night i saw a sign for a comedy class, and they had the list of things that was in the comedy class, and one of them was like that they would teach you. And I didn't actually read it,

but I just saw one that said mic technique. And I'm like, you can't advertise that. It's stand-up comedy. You know what I mean? And that's even optional too. You can leave it in the stand. You don't need... I mean, the irony being is I've fucked this up the whole time.

And I'm a professional comedian. But yeah, my technique, that's a bit much to advertise selling that. Well, I mean, it wouldn't kill you to take the course. Yes, it would, yeah. Today. You ready? Okay okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing ray what did you make of uh, as far as I can tell,

apart from the three key characters in this, which is Patricia, depending on who you ask, or Patricia, and I mean within the show, they say it differently, Rob and Jamie, as far as I can tell, apart from those three, the only recurring character ever, which is the yoga teacher, his name I forget. Vegan yoga teacher. Vegan yoga teacher.

Matilda, their daughter. Every character is... It's not Matilda. Yeah. Oh, the son was... No, their daughter's got a different name, but I take your point. Anyway, the question I was eventually leading down was, what did you make of her?

Did you think she did a good job? Yeah, she wasn't in it enough. I mean, she's just one of those characters that's such a stereotype, that over-the-top stereotype again, that it was like she was kind of funny. I thought she was a good actor. I thought she did a really good job.

But a vegan yoga teacher, it's so annoying. And like the Mexican director, like there was every character so over-the-top. So like you can't really. That's Hayley Duff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She is a performer.

Yeah. I noticed that you haven't used the word actor. Wow. I don't quite know what she's famous for. Who is that director? The director was a big director, right? I actually don't know. Yeah, that smacked of a cameo, but I didn't know who he was.

A Mexican director. He's probably a Mexican director. Oh, he said his name. Alejandro something. I'm going to research it right director. Oh, you said his name. Alejandro something. I'm going to research it right now. So, okay, obviously not as impressed as I was by her chops. I'll tell you what I was amazed at. I mean, I found out from listening to the back half of the last podcast

that they were husband and wife in real life. What part of that surprises you? The chemistry was so bad between them and they were awkward and like there was just scenes where they were awkward and it also surprised me and this sounds that she was an actor also because she was so horrible.

She's not good. She's by far so bad. I believe from memory, yeah, her background is acting as well. Yeah. So make of that what you will. What is your director? It was an actor playing a role. It's not actually a director.

Yeah. I... Oh, no, no, no. What I was going to say, and the show would never be brave enough to actually tackle a storyline that could have anyone's investment last longer as long as they're

talking about it but the you know Patricia doesn't call out the behaviour of her co-star no one does and so we are to believe within the realm of the show

that it's okay and that in some way she's attracted to him which you know all the evidence points to possibly yes she sees it explicitly oh is he reoccurring

how he's been in an episode before as well one episode before toward the end of this episode she keeps saying how hot he isoccurring he's been in an episode before as well one episode before toward the end of this episode she keeps saying how hot he is yeah

and so she's she said she wouldn't do anything but behaves as willfully oblivious and when Rob decides to destroy his knee

with a bowling ball the fallout from that is almost you know it's almost played in a way that suggests that their marriage could be on the brink

when they're flying back she won't talk to him that discontent very rarely for the show lasts longer than the scene that it's taking place in and you know you're almost watching a show where it's like you said it would be like in curb where larry david does get divorced it would be so amazing for the show if they actually introduced some sort of jeopardy because it's cartoonish in that at the end of every episode, no matter how badly everything goes, how wrong the world of the show is, you know when you start watching the next episode,

it's going to be reset, and that none of it matters. And this episode, twice, in the romance between Jamie and Hayley Duff in the tent, and then again, in the demise of their connection, it comes right to the brink of actually becoming something, which might be part of why, I mean, that and the great beer gag. You've seen so many more episodes.

See, I felt like at the very end of the episode, which is a scene where Rob and his wife talk about him hitting the guy with the bowling ball, and he tells her, I've got a big break, I've got my first role in the movie in 20 years, it's going to be great for us, and he's her, I've got a big break. I've got my first role in the movie in 20 years. It's going to be great for us and he's all emotional. And he goes, I'm going to be away for five months. And he goes, we can FaceTime each other,

which I found funny as a phrase as well. Like, you know, you don't need the each other. Like, we can FaceTime, you know, like talking about FaceTime and other people or just telling her that we've both got this function as well, like just a random fact within this so but then he goes um but then he sat down and she got and he goes when i went or also he gets a role for the movie it's in thailand and he goes when he tells his wife he says uh i've I've got a rehearsal tomorrow,

then I leave for five months in three days time, or something like that. Like, it just happens that quick. Like, you know, he got it, and then he's got to go in three days time for five months. Oh, and he's been to be a martial arts expert

in the movie. See how much they fucking... For that opening scene... They're not out to get you, right? No, for the opening scene that was five out to get you right no for the opening scene that was five minutes on the fucking lantern you know

like five minute chat on this lantern they pump in a lot of facts throughout the rest of it you know they pump in a lot like you know

every time I forget about it he's a martial arts expert he's a martial so the director references Big Stan which is a real life Rob Schneider film

that I haven't seen but I think he does martial arts in it I think that's what that's all about yeah he says that was 10 years ago and a couple of

hundred pounds the way that the story it's like the way that they sort of approach cohesive storytelling is not dissimilar

to talking to a toddler where it's like occasionally they will stumble into something that works or is interesting or has value beyond like into something that works or is interesting

or has value beyond like being impressed that a toddler is talking about this but it comes back to the thing of just all guessing there's no control there's no element of you know if you were selecting a car in mario kart you'd have acceleration well i mean all the star ratings would be low but control would be the the lowest possible rating. It's a great laboured analogy. I've lost his analogy. You're struggling to keep up with real Rob. I'm not telling you to keep up with real Monty, mate. Go on.

Go. Finish the real Monty analogy. No, no, no. I'd like to check in with real Ray. Somehow, real Rob's show is like in Mario Kart when you select the cars and you go for one they've all got low stats but controls on the

lowest. I'm quite happy that you haven't let this go right? Don't act like you know what he's talking about. I absolutely don't

but it would be just as easy for the two of us to let it slide and let it finish but I like the fact that we're held on to the fire.

Initially the analogy was it's like talking to a toddler where it's like occasionally a toddler will stumble into Something interesting But they don't know

That they've done that Beyond gauging your response Even a broken clock Yeah and so they've got A toddler has no control Over whether or not They're being interesting Or the conversation

They're providing you with Is interesting to you So the control element Is low In the same way As when you're selecting A car on Mario Kart Something that

I played with you recently Which is why I thought You of of all people might enjoy this. I get the game. I get the reference. Oh, here he is. So now I've kind of decided saying, the way a baby will stumble upon something, I get it, but I don't get it.

The car on Mario Kart has no control, but occasionally you'll be driving so fast you'll stumble into the power-ups. I would worry more the fact that you can't keep up with my analogy if I hadn't watched you stumble through an episode of Real Rock not 15 minutes ago. Look, I'm just a bit more honest and giving. I was trying to be nice.

Where is this coming from? You look at things. You want to analyze it all. You're analyzing the shots and stuff. I was just trying to go with the flow, watch a bit of real Rob. And yes, I admit it was fucked. The first 10 minutes was fucked. Sweet Ray.

Sweet, innocent Ray. Trying to tuck into a bit of real Rob. The first 10 minutes were fucked, but there are certain things like latch onto the assistant. Wait for him to say a line. Wait for him to to say a line and you're not wrong but here's the thing right you ever watch like that's how you enjoy watching a shit film you know you get you gotta latch into you you wanna and you know we're two very qualified people to be throwing that sort of um uh rebuke at but i will say that this is a brand new thing that they've discovered of using

jamie to create some sort of hookable storyline that will rope the viewers in this is a common thing from guests they talk about him he's a fucking test you know test dummies in cars he's there in the show up until this point this romantic interest thing is actually fucking compelling it's the most compelling thing they've written have you ever seen the movie Burlesque? Christina Aguilera film? If not. Very good, very good supporting cast. But yeah, that's another, that's like one of the worst you'll ever see.

And Christina Aguilera is the worst actor you'll ever see. But the supporting cast is so good. Have you seen Burlesque, Alice? Like it? In a shit way? There's just one scene. No one could see she was vigorously

nodding yes to everything oh right yeah well no it is one scene in burlesque right

so she's moved to New York to become a burlesque artist and to make it big in New York and stuff like that and she's having tough times

and it's ups and downs and she she writes a postcard she goes to write and ups and downs and she she writes a postcard she goes to write a postcard home right so she writes out a postcard talking about her troubles in new york or whatever miss you and stuff like this and then she goes to write the two bit and the address and realizes she's got no one to send it to so she rips it up and throws it out the window so she writes a whole fucking letter right to a very ambiguous letter you'd imagine right like it's a letter that could go to anyone to anyone and you know

this is what i've been up like how can you write a letter you see you start writing it you see it right the postcard you see it rip it up and throw it out this new york window and i sort of go out the street and i was just like who the fuck was the letter to? How can you write a letter to anyone? Like to anyone? What is this analogy about? It's not an analogy

we're just talking I did jump off tangents I did jump on a few tangents there to shit good supporting characters that you can latch on to shit movies

and then I got into this scene about burlesque yeah Ray what was your favourite part of this episode of Real Rob? my favourite part was that line when that bear was eating your brain

so I knew I loved you you did genuinely love that it got me by surprise a couple of for the other reasons, like Rob Snyder's stuff, when his shit's bad, it's so bad it's not funny. When the other character's stuff's bad,

it's still bad and funny. Like the wife stuff, like she's such a bad actor and like, but it's still so funny when she just takes so long to say, and when Rob Snyder's, oh, just, it's so funny. But yeah, Rob Snyder's, I just, it's so funny. Her, her,

but, um, yeah, Rob Snyder's so bad. He's not funny. Yeah. But he's, he's got conviction.

I think like his writing is terrible, obviously, cause he wrote it and, and, and sort of like the broad direction is bad, but he does give a performance with conviction cause he is playing himself. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's a bad actor.

No, no. Rob Schneider. No, I think he's a bad actor. No, no. Rob Schneider. No, I think he comes across as the best actor in the thing. Yeah. But the line, that line, the bears line,

that's pretty much it really. That's about it. It's the one ray of sunshine on an otherwise quick... I mean, the final scene with the wife and the... Rob and his wife was so...

was so awkward that that was pretty funny too. Yeah, but an unintentional one. The beer line is probably the only thing that hit that they wanted you to enjoy. Have you had any genuine laughs in this show? This episode? Yeah, this episode.

It's the only one I know. If we go on throughout the show, I think it's been similar to you where they sort of trip over something that'll really get me, like a turn of phrase that i don't think they intended to be funny but they've yeah they've said something very awkwardly but in doing it it's like poetically funny yeah because no one talks like that you know they've said something which they think is like how people talk is like that is fucking crazy that that's dialogue yeah trying to um

launder this crazy line you've thought of as real dialogue. But very few intentional things. I liked the bowling ball in the knee. Funny because it genuinely makes you sit up and say, well, you know, like, it introduced the notion of real world consequences

for what's happening. Do you reckon Rob Snyder's just got progressively like, less funny as soon as he came on the camera? Like, his cameos in the Adam Sandler films were arguably quite funny, you know? And then Juice Bigelow was pretty funny, and then it just got worse, and then it just ended to this.

The hot chick was funny. I thought Juice Bigelow was the funny one, and then I thought they were all sort of unfunny after that. Yeah, I mean, I think this is what I'm saying. It's the Mario Kart thing. It's the control. He's got no control. It always comes back to that.

No, but did you not find his cameos in the Adam Sandler things funny? Yeah, of course. So that's what I'm saying. You can do it. His introduction started very funny, one line, and then it's just as time's gone on, it's, it's ended up here. Yeah. It's just got progressively worse.

And no, I'll tell you what, it wasn't funny, but honestly, that storyline with Jamie, that he's genuinely got like a romantic entanglement now, I'm fucking on board with it. Yeah.

Cause I've been so starved of any real human connection or investment. Yeah. Oh, that was quite funny too. At the end where he, he meets what's Rob Snyder's wife's name again

sorry Patricia so when he meets and what's his name what's the Jamie yeah when Jamie meets Patricia at the end

and he says tells her about the bear attack and tells her and gets up he doesn't even lead with the bear attack he doesn't even lead

obviously the fucking headline I don't want that he does the exact opposite of what I said he doesn't tell lead with the beer attack. He doesn't even lead. It's just obviously the fucking headline item on that. He does the exact opposite of what I said. He doesn't tell her about the beer attack. But he gets up and he's alluding to it. And he says, oh, well, I can't wait for you to see. What's the girl he's dating?

I don't know. Hayley Duff. Hayley Duff. When her face gets better, we'll all go speak to her. And then she's like, what did you mean he gets up and he's woozy bandage around his uh his arm and he goes oh have you got a glass of orange juice I just gave her all my blood and then he passes out but then you never see him get up no one ever helps him but they don't go to another scene and it's not you don't see him lying there they just cut shot and it's just

he falls out of shot but they stay in the room but it doesn't really fall out of shot he falls he falls in shot right I'll challenge you on that

he literally falls out of shot no falls out of shot would make it comically like he's out of shot he falls and then they just change scene to another shot in the room

so he falls below the frame like he he disappears onto the frame we live to imagine he's lying down in the bed yes He falls below the frame. Like he just appears onto the floor. We live to imagine he's lying down in the background. Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, I thought you meant like he sort of fell off camera or something like that.

No, he falls on the ground. And he's moaning on the floor or something like that and she's worried. But then Rob comes in and then they just go sit on the couch and it just cuts to a new angle of them sitting on the couch. And I thought at this big heat of the moment,

like when it gets all emotional, like the guy was going to get back up again. I thought that was going to be the joke. But it just never gets back up again. It just goes for another scene. So we're left to just wonder. And it never even comes back to him, that episode. So will we see him again?

Yeah, we will. You should have been in the writer's room, mate. There's a nice little button on that scene that's actually we've got time for but Ray thank you so much

for enjoying real Rob with us if people want to follow Ray they can send him an email at gmail.com that is your email

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this isn't about Guy this is about Ray I've kept my Facebook like open have you all used your real name on Facebook? Alistin's provider guys have your email address. Do you all use your real names on Facebook and stuff?

Yeah. And so do I. Mate, we're trying to wrap the fucking episode with your social media text. No, but like, so I've left it at that, but then I just add... That's my favourite approach. It's like we're trying to wrap it up,

and you go, no, but... And just continue with whatever ludicrous aside... Well, this is a good story. I've got to get a new story. So I've got... So I've let... I've just add people from comedy on there. And not just comedians.

Like, I add audience members. Like, anyone. I just add anyone, right? And anyone... You know, if someone sends me a message saying, hey, great show, and they add me a friend request, I accept them. But I've had on multiple times now occasions people ring me that i don't know because you can ring people on facebook now so i've run they've run me not

before a gig people have run me go hey ray we're coming to your show tonight i'm like oh cool bro thanks for thanks for coming so yeah you get get my phone number. Come on over. Yeah, Easter lunch or whatever. So you can find Ray under his own name on Facebook. Give him a call. He'd love to hear from you. Well, you can find us all under our names. And we'll catch you in the next episode of Overlooked and Undercooked. Thanks again, Ray.

Thanks for having me. Where do you get the name from? Today. You ready? Okay, let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing