The Worst Idea Of All Time - A Beautiful Failure

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

How on EARTH are they going to wrap this up with one remaining episode? Tim and Guy attempt to audit the loose ends that one Thanksgiving Dinner is supposed to take care of and the list is impossibly long. There are so many questions but the overriding one is: What will this show remember about itself as it ends?Please keep the boys alive by joining us at: twioat.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to another exciting episode of the worst idea of all time with Guy Montgomery and Timbatt, never put my name first usually, as we take our penultimate step towards tying up all of the loose ends that have been carefully assembled. Impossible. Not possible.

Season three of and just like that. This is string theory. We're in the quantum realm. It's like the storytelling physics now that we have gotten into the third season event just like that, all the rules of storytelling have broken down. We're in the upside down.

Nothing makes sense. I like it's also, because this was a very, this was the shortest yet, 26 minutes. It's honestly like, absolutely taking the piss. And I am seeing Mattress Pikelet's name way earlier in the credits come up now.

I feel like he's looking at the camera going, hey, watch this. Speed running the destruction of his own career long franchise. I, I, look, I will say I, um, what's the word? I Gafford.

I sort of huffed and I puffed and I went through the gamut of emotions available while watching this episode. I had a fun time and I think perhaps the hydraslide nature of nearing the end of the experience is part of where the enjoyment came from. But that's not to say I thought it was an outstanding episode necessarily, but I thought, you know, to see the decisions that are being made now and how they stack up with what you'd expect out of a season's show. I'm not viewing this as like a viewer or a fan or anything at this point. I feel like a scientist in a lab, like just observing the test results at this point and just seeing what unpredictable behaviour is going to happen next. Well, look, how would you like to strike shy conversation

because I've got a list here of, to my mind and memory, all of the sort of the fundamental one sentence or one question story beats. Every pot and pan that has been brought out of the cupboard. And I'm missing many, but that's part of the scramble that has been performed on us. Let's get into it. Let's do it.

Okay. So I count one, two, I count over, you know, I count like probably 14, 15 sort of little things here. Do you want to start with the biggest or the smallest? Smallest. Okay. We're going to go down to the bottom. Now, my question for the Todd Wexley children is will we have time to learn their names before the show finished? Absolutely not.

I'm so sorry. That's the big, that's the big, um, the big, um, the big, um, the big, um, the big, sort of, you know, thing that we need to get resolved on the show. The Todd Wexley daughter. Daughter Todd Wexley? Daughter Todd Wexley seems just like a real average

run-of-the-mill girl that's growing up in a family. The son's a little more interesting. He seems like he's quite intelligent. Very disrespectful because in this, we had the Todd Wexley sitting down at the school musical and it was advertised to everyone that the boy was going to be part of

the Musical, the lead. And then we didn't see any of his scenes. Oh my God, you're right. They were like, yeah. The kid who we made sing three songs on the karaoke machine. He's the lead in this musical. And guess what?

We don't give a fuck about that. I reckon they filmed that. I think they filmed it. 100% they filmed it. And they cut it so that we could see lots more of rock performing later. But that entire scene was just a vehicle for Herbert to huff and puff that he's, No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One at a time.

All right, go on. Lissette, who is the woman who now lives in Carrie's apartment. New Carrie. New Carrey. Will she deliver one believable line delivery? Oh, I've... Before the show is finished. It's tough, eh?

Time's running out. Fuck was that tough. There were some true clangers in this one. Well, it harkened back to the first episode. where I thought, you know, and they kept referencing in the show, like, I haven't seen you for seven months. It's been seven months since the season started. Yeah.

And I really, like, I mean, I remember watching that first first scene in this season and I was like, whoa, these are some bad line reads. Yeah. But it's got to be direction, right? Well, I mean, it's a combo effort, but they allowed her to act like that.

I think at a certain point when you're trying to get all these storylines shot in a day, you have to say, yep, good enough that's a bye man crazy stuff this episode's worth watching just for her line reads they're nuts I really wish I'd written them down

but I didn't no no no you're not going to get them um on to Brady but I like that that's the storyline are we going to get one believable performance for her before the end of the show I write these I'm reading these in like I wrote these in reverse order so

um they become a little more, these ones are a little more esoteric than the ones where we get to the bigger characters. Fair enough. Brady, now we've got a lot going on with this guy. Yeah. To be fair, the show realizes that now. Brady is like, he's probably got the meatiest, like, active story.

Yeah. My question for you is, will he nail the Thanksgiving turkey? He's there to cook the turkey this year, is he? That was... Charlotte's doing stuffing, and Brady's doing the turkey. Brady's doing the whole thing. Charlotte's doing the stuffing.

So this is a big... Oh yeah, because he's going to become a chef because he's transforming into Ratatoui. Yes, that's right. Yeah. They love a farce in this show. So I think he will absolutely crush it and then trip over something that Miranda left on the floor.

And everything will go ass over tits and then they have to order KFC or something. Is Brady? Yeah. And then they'll eat it in the straight. And is Brady's cooking a metaphor for mattress pikelets storytelling? Like, are they going to treat it as such where Brady's going to nail everything? Huge expense, no expense spared.

The ingredients to make the Thanksgiving dinner have cost upwards of $4,000 US to cater for about 8 to 10 people. Cooked pretty well and then absolutely all over the floor. Inedible. No one can touch the stuff because it's been ruined. But do you know who gets theirs out of it? Joy's two dogs. Oh, that's fun. Sophocles and Aristotle or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Philosopher names they've been given. Now, to Mia, who I believe is Brady's baby mama. Yeah. Is she coming to Thanksgiving? Yeah. Yeah. And how's that playing?

Because they made a point, Miranda made a point of being like, by the way, Mia, who I'm trying to force into, like, you know, some form of a nuclear arrangement. yeah she's alienated her family or her family alienated her like it was mentioned that she doesn't have

anywhere to go for Thanksgiving yes what's going on there she sucks she's annoying she's going to be at Thanksgiving which is going to be

awesome yeah this isn't what we should be doing for the final episode of the entire sex in the city franchise

like it got announced that Brady got someone pregnant last episode I think and now really all we can do with the finale I'm sorry I'm diverted No no no no no no no But now all that we really can focus on

Surely in this last episode So much oxygen is going to get sucked Out of the fire by Us just having to deal with this now Well it has a fun Me is there He's a fun side quest for you What is the runtime

Of the final episode 16 and a half minutes I'm going the other way he's daring himself and challenging himself to go how he's trying to break a Guinness World record for most storylines per minute

I think no no I think he has been I think like in between the announcement in the finale I think he's cut this to be like 133 is this a feature

this is a yeah this is sex in the city this will qualify for Oscars and to be played at Carn absolutely he's higher

and it will not receive the standing ovation it will be booed People will leave. But, I mean, I have not, yeah, it's a great question. I've no idea. But realistically, just look at me for a second and think about this. What else can we be dealing with apart from Brady's baby?

Okay, I'm going to go to the top. I'm going to give you some top line ones here. Carrie, the question on everyone's lips, is she going to live in her big house? That is what Carrie's storyline is building towards all this episode. kept people keep saying hey carrie people hate it when women are alone yeah people hate people hate reading about woman being alone they hate watching people being alone in a big house yeah no one likes this yeah and lisette who's even carried 2.0 uh says to be like don't you get worried

yeah by yourself in their big old house i know it's after her going hey you know this tiny apartment you gave me i feel so lonely here i had to get a roommate and then put up a wall is carrie gonna live in this house out of spite for everyone in her life telling her she's going to move into the walk-in closet and just exist in there I actually would like to see Carrie Bradshaw have a mental breakdown

you've come to the wrong place yeah I know she's actually quite strong eh in spite of it all I think it's because she's got amnesia you know there's certain things that she

like the fact that she keeps referring to her in Aden's relationship as being 22 years long that she's recond big completely out of her life like he was never there and well you I mean she's absorbed

I've got to say yeah oh sorry you finished it was like all the memories that she's got of time spent with big she's now just in her head refiled that as Aiden memories Aiden was part of her

consciousness that whole time I suppose she was I mean he was there 22 years ago but she's saying we were together for 22 years and that is simply I think think they might have been together for less than a year physically she's she's a bit confused about what's going on in her life man well yeah i mean you told me before the mics were rolling

that um you you heard tell that maybe oh yeah um so big apparently well chris knoth the man himself who portrays big apparently has been spotted with syria jessica parker filming something wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't sex and the city related to me this sounds like she's Kevin Spacey herself she's filming Christmas videos and character

I mean SJP's done nothing wrong no no no oh yeah not not in terms of like she hasn't you know found out that she's gay at the same time as serious allegations have surfaced against her

but you know when after all that sort of stuff boiled to the surface and then that Christmas he released a YouTube video as Frank Underwood Of course, man He's done a multiple, not just once He's done multiple videos On multiple years

So I don't think that Are there any allegations against Sir Jiska Parker I mean certainly credible allegations against Chris North I just think You know Maybe in some crazy universe She feels she's been wronged

In the same way that maybe he feels he's been wronged And they've managed He's reached out And they've managed to align on that that and they're like and there's a you know there's a there's a little seasonal video saying i've um bigs alive and this idea this idea horrifies me i don't like thinking about it now i don't like you talking about it um i've seen photos of online of of of this of chris not the river the river the bad usually say the very good reverend chris noth the bad reverend chris

noth and syrijcica parker but i'm at this point going to chalk it up to it's i i don't want to believe that they're being that silly and trying to reintroduce them in the last episode. So if not the apartment question, they jettisoned Aiden real easily. If not, if not the apartment question, what is there left for Carrie to resolve? The book. The book's got to come out. It's all about the book. We can't have the book coming up. The woman. We can't have, she's written this book in seven months. Okay. It's finished. She has not named her lead character. She knows about naming characters. I'll tell you that. We've got a fucking glimpse of her epilogue. there's names coming out left and right.

Fucking hey, are you what? So, you know, she's writing the epilogue. She's introducing the concept of names existing in the universe of the book. You can't take seven months to write a book and then push through its publication and response in one 16 and a half minute episode. It is, it is.

Now, listen, I don't know for sure it's going to be 16 and a half minutes. That's my suspicion based on the current trend line. It is also so funny how they've treated this book over the course of the season in that what we have been given up until very recently are incredibly general phrases and prose which loosely relate to what's happening

in the episode of and just like that to have a sort of commentary on what's happening but it's written in ye oldy English font yes and and they've gone so out of their way to make it generalised enough and poetic enough to it to be sort of attributable to the situations as the gals are in that the lead character remains nameless

and then the second to last episode that will ever exist of this whole universe boom it's in 1846 fucking brand new information for me and a galaxy of names and characters suddenly that we've got details on it was never present day

I know that but like I felt as though every time that they give Carrie which you know because the voiceover was a big part, as I understand, of maybe the movies, I believe, the show. Maybe the, you've seen the movies, brother.

Oh, come on. Like, I'm going to remember that. There's no voiceover in the movies, guy. No, there is. There is voiceover in the movies, but it's sparse. Yeah. But yes, you're right. It is a very integral bit.

I mean, like, if you ever wanted to paper over the myriad narrative challenges that have been laid down in this series. Yeah. Just let Carrie fucking, of course, connect two moments for us. Hold my hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It goes to show how much help we do need in the storytelling. But the narration did have a lot.

I can watch movies and whatnot without voiceover. No, no, no. I'm talking specifically about this stuff, this material right here. So, yeah, I mean, aside from the big house, what is there left for carry to resolve here? The book, you reckon? Like, relationship-wise, you know. It seems...

Is she going to buy the apartment? Is she going to live a lot? Like, is it, well, does Duncan come back? I mean, Duncan, there's a died. They can't. You can't spend a whole episode, everyone being like, it sucks how you by yourself and then be like, and then fix it for us in this way.

I think they have to. I think they kind of have to, unfortunately. Anyway, keep going. Okay. We're going to find out. So what do you think is going to happen with Carrie? I mean, look, I talked about it in the last episode, they kind of went, they alluded to it potentially happening.

I think moving back into the old apartment. is like, you know, is that the way the wind's blowing? I briefly mentioned this before, but it is so funny that Lissette's storyline in this episode is that she's in Carrie's apartment that feels so lonely that she has to get a roommate. But then they erect a wall to separate the two of them. So they live in completely different spaces.

Yeah, I didn't quite understand the living arrangement. I mean, let's introduce a question for Ezekiel. I have said, because I have now, up until this point, I've put a firewall between me and other people's commentary and stuff like. the series but now i want everything i want all the information oh you've got your mainlining heart out and i've been seeing like people have been drawing uh diagrams of how the apartment must work now with the wall people are figuring out the layout it doesn't make a lot of sense

let's expressly said he got the kitchen because that was important too yeah she got the walking closet and and he got a functional kitchen which i think you'd legally need to be in a dwelling yeah it was Buzzy Singh carries like the old sort of reading area and office space with the wallpaper like all kind of exactly as left. I mean, I guess that was the idea. I also have to shout out to who we've caught this, but people keep talking about like how Carrie's made finally her home really warm and inviting and someone has found, I think it's in this episode, I missed it when I watched it, but I just saw this online.

There is a folding chair and shot while she's saying this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like got plush arms, but it's a folding chair. It's like, what are the fuck is this, what is this chair? Yeah, I mean, look, look, look, I saw the folding chair. I didn't, I didn't think it was too, you know. What's going on with that? The place is always in, it's in transition.

She's still, you know, she's figuring it out. It's a constant work in progress. That's right. That's right. Going on the list. Okay. Charlotte. Charlotte.

Can she let her beautiful child be non-binary? oh yeah she will but against her you know final dying breath so the whole storyline of this episode with charlotte is that rock has been cast in what is the name of the show a musical the very modern musical betty betsy betsy betty you don't just say i don't know no come on i'm getting close you just said that we're musical and then i said betty bitty betsy no no no look i should look this up she's uh sorry it's actually not it's actually not important the name it is a little i don't know some people might know the show rock is in this musical portraying a woman character get all dolled up for it because charlotte's other daughter's name lily lily has by the way are their child's name

big question for lily yeah will she get a line of dialogue again before the show is so good Lily's been wasted. I reckon Lily's a really good actor and she should be in the show more and she's not and it's weird because they kind of hit her in the show quite a lot and then taken away. Not as much as rock though.

Rock I always enjoy seeing and they're like on screen and then taken away for six or seven episodes and then we're reminded that they exist and are at school. Not only do they exist, they have dressed themselves as a woman for the musical and Charlotte

and full... Well, they were cast as the lead. And full like 90s movie you know slow motion being blown over by seeing a beautiful woman watches rock walking out of their bedroom big shades of she's all that sort of you know gender reversal dresser and it's just is absolutely flawed by how beautiful their child is yeah to the point of like

it's it becomes Charlotte storyline I think it's a good story I actually think that's a good one yeah because Charlotte is a boomer are they these women boomers or exit they're boomers eh Cuspy well she's she's either an old ex or an early boomer young boomer

who's struggling with the fact that you know through sex in the city these four girls lives yes I'm not going to erase Samantha from my memory even if the show will have sort of bonded over their femininity

and their sexual relations and so it sort of makes sense that you know Charlotte's really struggling in this new paradigm and she was she's sort of like in the movies she's struggling with parenting a bit but she seems genuinely a bit so deli she fucking toasts parents without nannies

she delighted she she seems to take great delight in the fact that she had two daughters you know yeah like she really loves that fact she's got these these little dolls to dress up and then for one of them to then evolve into a non-binary child of hers is genuinely a struggle for her

and I find it interesting and good and I think Charlotte's this is so crazy to me but she seems like the only sane and remotely good friend in the show Charlotte has shown the most personal growth out of everyone but Charlotte was wrestling with this

like fucking two seasons ago or a season ago it's true but now she's having to say goodbye to one of her daughters and sort of open up her arms warmly to this child well you know you talk about often you tell me

I give the writers too much credit yeah do you give the writers too much credit is the way to resolve this storyline in the world of Anne just like that that Rock realizes it's fun to be hot and Charlotte gets her wish oh it becomes a girl again God I hope not

but anything is possible as far as I'm concerned don't take any options off the table 100% Mattress Pikeler is a little fucking he's I see him as a little it's like a little woodland creature crafting his magic away

in a dark magic in the works. I mean, I'm not familiar with his total output. I've spent a lot of time concentrating pretty specifically on some of the work that he's not necessarily best known for in terms of as a creator. But Chelsea and I have watched started watching the comeback

the Lisa Cudrow HBO series where she plays like a former starlet who's on the comeback trail of her career. Okay. Which she created with Michael Patrick King this is I think 2005

the first season it's brilliant it's so funny and it's like a lot of the techniques have become roached now but it would have been sort of on the frontier of you know a faux

mockumentary and I was like and his name was in the credits and I was like this fucking guy he's got greatness in him he does he absolutely does yeah anyway just something for me by the way if you're watching this on this

substack, how much does Miranda love a big fucking bowl of salad? Swear to God. It's all we see. It's her. The two things she loves eating is big bowls of salad like that and pussy.

Okay. What about this one? Harry, can you get a boner? Yes, it's a Thanksgiving miracle. Harry will get his... Oh, Harry got... Oh, no, it was an iPad. That's right. That's right. I worried for Charlotte there.

She's like, hey, he's talking about not being able to get a bonus. We see them in their tiny bed. I love Harry. I love that marriage. Harry is just like, man, I would try and everything to get in a region. Nothing is working for me. Yeah, and Harry's, he's like all, he's cussing out having to go to someone else's

house for Thanksgiving. He's like, he's going to be playing NPR instead of the footies. It's like, fucking a bro. Nice to see a bit of red meat out and about. But they wake up in the bassinet they share as their marital. bed and she goes, Harry, is that something hard against her back? And he goes, it certainly is. And he pulls out an iPad.

On what planet has anyone ever mistaken the sharp, thin corner of an iPad for their husband's hard clock? We're just trying to get the, is that a banana in your pocket or are you pleased to see me in the 2025 age? Anyway, what about this for Harry? Will we ever see blowback in the legal world for his piss pants viral photo? Never. We wish.

Yeah. Would we be so lucky? Okay. But they've forgotten that exists. Is Miranda going to simultaneously fuck up her relationship with her son and with joy because of her obsession over trying to force a connection? She deserves that and it won't happen. This show befalls fortunes upon Miranda that she does not deserve.

Miranda sucks. And I'm convinced of this. I used to think it was an opinion and now I am convinced it is fact. for her also god damn it it's confusing in this episode

it is revealed that Miranda has gone back to Mia to ask her if she wants to come to Thanksgiving first off

show us don't tell us that that is a funny scene you silly filmmakers what are you doing like

I want to see all the awkwardness of that but no instead it is delivered update to fucking carry from memory. Miranda's like, yeah, well, I invited Mia.

She probably won't come. Why'd you do it? Why'd you fucking do it? This is a stupid decision. The way she deals with every problem is so frustrating. She throws out the gin and blames the cleaner. She invites someone that Brady got pregnant to Thanksgiving, who she's met once and made a complete tit of herself without telling Brady.

And she thinks it's all going to work out as well. this is a bit that frustrates me is that she's so blind to how fucking stupid her decision making is? How hard it is for Miranda to discuss and brainstorm solutions to the problems, the real problems she's facing in her life

when her friends are literally sitting by and Miranda says, hey, I've done this insane thing and Carrie goes, yeah, and can you believe this? My publisher wants me to put an epilogue in my book

and then Charlotte goes, oh my God! Two people we know got engaged. It's like, on what fucking planet are you going to be able to brainstorm anything. She's sitting there.

Two other conversations are stacked on top and she's still trying to think through to the end of the problem. She's brought to her oldest friends. We've discussed for a very long time the way that these friends communicate with each other which is not healthy, good, useful or really the way that friends communicate

in the real world. It's not the way conversation work. It's not an exchange of information. It is simply waiting in turn for a breath to be able to push your news into the table. over brunch. So what we're seeing

with Miranda is the end result is the net of that process of when your tight friendship group of the last 40 years has been three other women who do not know how to listen to what you've said and then comment back to you some feedback on it.

This is what happens. You're just all at sea making the worst decisions. She must be a bad lawyer. But they have to be you know like the friendship it makes sense in that no one else could possibly live with and abide this mode of communication or this form of connection.

Oh, it's a cold. Which is everyone shows up. Yeah. They say their piece and they take their piece and only their piece away. If these three like went to a potluck and they all brought a dish, they would never discuss the way that the dishes, how funny it is they're different or how similar they are. They would all take turns discussing how they cooked the dish, how they think their dish is tasting. and then they would leave with, you know, like...

And I know this is a metaphor, but this is why it's important and most of them don't cook. Because this potluck wouldn't work at all. And they potentially all double up. Yeah. Because they'd be like, I'm going to bring the potato salad.

And then Samantha would say, I will bring the potato salad. And Miranda would say, I will bring the potato salad. And they would all turn up with potato salad. And then they'd all just eat potato salad. Their potato salad. They wouldn't try anyone else's potato salad.

I had sex with a woman last night. I had sex with a woman last night. last night and stuff full of carbohydrates leave and go home to their own apartments okay it's no way to live will Lisa Todd Wexley be able to get Michelle Obama on

and just like that before the series runs out I'm sorry I know this is your storyline and you've got a real hobby horse about it Marion isn't even fucking mentioned in this episode he is now absent from the show for some reason

a funny flight of fancy which was Herbert becoming the running to be the comptroller of New York City, which I thought was like a funny one episode like this is going on in the background with one of the husbands, has turned into a fucking mope fest.

It's torpedoed the entire Todd Wexley storyline. The momentum is all gone from the family. And they operate quite like sort of siloed as well from every one out. It's quite weird. I mean, I hate to say, everyone who's not white is operating in their own show. Absolutely.

Seema has really been... Mattress Pikeler perfected with Jennifer Hudson and sex in the city one when Carrie had the ghost of an assistant for an entire episode. Thankfully her friends don't listen to her so they never found out and then the ghost left and everyone was like dum-de-do. It is getting

kind of weird because like earlier in the season there are bits where, okay, everyone can race mix. Cool. But now we've got to separate for some reason the black woman from the white woman again. It's odd.

Like, Seema is operating in her own television show. The Todd Wexley's are too. Now, the Todd Wexley's actually had a pretty good storyline in their TV show, which was, what's going to happen to this marriage, which is being threatened by an incredibly attractive editor that Lisa should not have hired in the first place? He's gone now. Yeah.

Completely gone. You've got to assume he's fucking performing kinnolengis on some delicious tropical fruit in a different editing suite in a different part of town. 8K with Dolby Surround sound 7.1. He's doing anal-lingus on a mango while watching. We were in so tight with that shot. It looked like

from a technical standpoint like good somehow but it was fucking it was a bit much. Herbert's cop and owls in this episode and he's taking them like a fucking loser. He's moping around such a funny burn line on him when all of the like school mums come up

they're waiting for the musical and they're like oh man I can't believe you lost to that community He send a wigger with the bad shoes. It's like... Oh, no, the best bit was, and don't think twice about all that money we raced for you. That was such a good dagger. That was actually like, that's how people in high society, even those...

I actually thought that might have been a contender for New York City Improv Watch. Absolutely not. Those three... Okay, have you got a big ring around who it was? Yeah. Oh, tell me now. It was the guy who sells jerseys at the fancy store after Giuseppe proposes to Anthony. And they go,

we're engaged in here and he goes congratulations and how are we liking the plum tell me that motherfucker is an anchoring a Harold team he is $12,000 in deck to Second City right now yeah you're right about that because that I mean those three school moms exist in the same realm and I don't have questions for them as Charlotte's three colleagues

which is like we know that their sitcom is taking place simultaneously to these other sitcoms in the show. And it's, you know, I'm totally with you where it's like you can't show us Marion a character with a backstory and somewhere to go

and then just push him to the side and be like, remember these three women who were all fucking pursuing Kristen Schall's college admission. Like remember that? Remember how at the start of the season we thought maybe we were going to be dealing

with college admissions? Yeah. They were like, oh, we need to get this woman. She's the college whisperer. She gets everyone in the colleges they want. And then they like fucking fuck it off. I don't even know if everyone's the correct age for us to be thinking about that anymore. Well, there was a third Todd Wexley who they've just totally abandoned.

Is there? Yeah, there is. There's Todd Wexley, the elder, who's like good at sports. And, you know, he used to come into the kitchen and then he stopped coming to the kitchen. Was he at the funeral? Herbert's so busy moping. Hold on. He doesn't realize he's lost his son.

Was the late? Fuck, imagine if Lisa Todd Wexley walked in on Marion and Michelle Obama, like absolutely going hell for leather. Dude, that is how we get the Democrats back into the White House. That's the campaign video right there. Just get the hottest dude you've ever seen, put him in and just like that, season three, and then be around with Michelle Obama. I mean, all is forgiven with Mattress Pikelet if he can get the Republicans out.

You can pull it off. if you can pull it off I tell you what man it's just crazy enough to work dude I actually feel I felt kind of like I've left the world that we live in

in our lives outside of the podcast and this is what good art can do this is what like watching a great movie can do which is absolutely siloing you into a world where only this exists yeah to me only this conversation and the potential like you know I'm having an episode

the ramifications of what we're talking about I feel real I know and I don't I don't care how long we go on this episode because I wrote down a lot of notes. Dude, we've got to get into them but before we do

I'm just going to speed run a couple of others. Hey, do them at normal pace slow them down. I got nowhere to be and I've got such enthusiastic

to talk about this fucking episode. It was crazy. I can't believe what they're doing. I just want to reiterate to everyone what's happening.

So this is the third season of in just like that. Obviously, as you can tell, the writers have opened up an insane number of story lines and some of them

have been abandoned completely some of them are still in the air and some of them we think they get abandoned and they sort of like come back and get revisited but what has been revealed recently is that the entire show is cancelled so now we this is a two part of episode this one's only 26 minute

yeah it's a couple seconds shy 27 minutes off all we have left to deal with everything is one half the second half of this episode and that's it And if you've seen a live show, you know, off Broadway, on Broadway, anywhere in the world, you'll know that the first half is always longer than the second. The second half runs shorter. Yeah, yeah.

Usually about 16 and a half minutes. Just looking at the train line. What would be, how, what is the satisfying way for the story to be told? Do you want to see like, just like, you know, vignettes? Do you want to see moment, resolve, moment, resolve, moment, resolve. Honestly, what popped into my head was. It's the complete opposite. You know how TV shows do a one-room episode?

Yeah. Usually for cost or because there's like, you know, some strike by the teamsters so they can't fucking corral any crew or locations. I see the thing. This is finally episode, the final hurrah of all of this is the Thanksgiving dinner. And it's all of them just through dialogue, like working through all of the shit. Wow. I don't know how else it can go.

So that could be amazing. So all of them learn to listen. It's like a play. It's like a play. I think like, do you know what the real, the real lesson of all of this whole enterprises is that capitalism is truly, I really do mean this. It's destroying our humanity. And I think Carrie is the greatest vehicle for this.

The episode we just watched opened on a baker, effusively praising Carrie Bradshaw for continually buying things from the baker. even in their biggest time of need COVID. And this is the example she gives of how great a customer and a sort of protector of the store, Carrie Bradshaw is, that she bought four pies from the bakery during COVID lockdowns and left them grow moldy on the bench. I would suggest there is a third option, which I don't think has a. occurred to anyone, which is you can give money to the bakery to keep it afloat without forcing

them to make a product that's never going to be eaten by anyone. If there is no facility through which Carrie can get the pie or anyone else can eat the pie, maybe just give them some money to be nice to a business you like and you think are doing a good job. And you don't have to create a product. It's just, it is the rat race nature of like, okay, well now I've got to buy all the product and fucking like make this pie and all that's involved there and get the star for it to just rot on a fucking shelf. Some of the responsibility falls on the baker. I know, no, 100%. They must have known Carrie was never going to pick up the pies.

Both the show and Carrie are vehicles for the stupid way that you view the world in which like there is no, you know, it's the end of history. Capitalism has overtaken anything and we simply cannot conceive of a way to do business or personal relations outside of this transaction. free market system. Can I say... There are other ways to live. We've done it before.

Is this show a testament to... Kerry doesn't need to live in this big fucking house. Liquidate the asset. Give it to charity. Regained some of your fucking heart and humanity and live in a sensible place in New York City. You're all... You're fucking...

I think this show and its failings are a testament to human creativity. I think I've heard I've heard tell I've heard whisper on the internet that people go who's writing this who's writing these storylines who's writing this season AI I don't know that

AI can fail in a way that is this like satisfyingly flawed correct the human touch that goes into all of these misses feels to me it's artful yeah they're artful failures and you know like we we cannot discuss

something which isn't made, you know, with the intent to be good and failing, with this much further and enjoyment and intensity, if it was, if it was just wrote by numbers, because this is not strictly by numbers storytelling. It's by numbers and that the numbers are big, but it's not by numbers and that. It's following any sort of introduced or understood formula to how you could conceive of telling a story across 12 episodes of a TV show. A story is perhaps the wrong number. completely outside the parameters of what a large language model could give you

in terms of a television show. It's not within its ability to produce this. And there is something to that. It doesn't matter how much data that that large language model has scraped. If you took all of the data and fed it into this machine, it would still follow some sort of guideline

which would mean that this would make sense in a much less enjoyable and satisfying way. There's the definition of slop. They are boring failures. This is a really interesting failure. Do you have any more on your list? Of course. You know who we haven't talked about?

Seema. Who's in love? Yeah. Yeah. But that's a pot on the boil. That's addressed in this episode. So here's the big question for Seema. Yeah.

And I think it's been answered. I think Seema represents hope in this season. Seema's not been invited to Thanksgiving, I'm pretty sure. Has she? She has. She's saying no to go to it with. Adam. Oh yeah, that's right. So can Sima get out of her own way

and enjoy being in love with someone who has different values from her, aka, isn't an asshole? Can she do it? Yeah. It's called out directly in the episode. Carrie says, from bad friend to bad girlfriend. That's what, that's what Seema says. How are you making this beautiful thing, something bad? And Semma says,

from bad friend to bad girlfriend, just like that. And I thought I see you. Yeah, they're going to figure it out. Seema, yeah, Seema's got heard, like, Cinderella story, sussed. Okay. Adam is Prince Charming. Well, Adam, here's my question for him. Will is passed as Trey Atwood, an assaer of woman from the Orange County, the other coast, catch up with him.

Wait, what did you say? Say that again? Will, so the actor who plays Adam. Yeah. Most famously, historically played Trey Atwood, Ryan Atwood's brother in the Orange County. Oh, yeah, right. Because there's a character called Trey who I think Charlotte was married to

And I clicked off for a second I thought that you were saying Trey in this show I'm saying physically assaulted Charles And is coming back No no no Will Adams past Got it?

Catch up to him No Sorry but what a fantastic flight of feet I shut down What I'm trying to find in my notes There was something absolutely insane That you just triggered in my memory It was a conversation between Carrie

Isn't there a bit I don't think I wrote this down Isn't there a bit in the episode where Seymus says, I'm not coming to Thanksgiving, I'm sorry to ditch you with them? Yeah. And she's talking about Miranda and Charlotte. Yeah.

Who she's been friends with for 40 years. Yeah, yeah. What? No, she's not ditched with them. She says, I'm sorry to leave you on your own. Like, as in Carrie doesn't have a date. Everyone's really trying, you know, everyone's doing an amazing job of being like, hey, guys, Carrie's by.

yourself and she's in the big house try not to mention it i honestly thought i was having a fucking aneurysm i was like does seema think she is such good friends with carrie that their relationship supersedes no no no no no her connection with miranda and charl okay we're good thank you for clearing that up for me it's my pleasure next absolutely is herbert gonna wallow forever can he get over this loss in one episode man How the Mighty Have Fallen, eh? What was his job before? He ran for City Comp Troller.

He was, you know, he wore a suit. Yeah, he wore a suit, didn't he? He went to work with a suit on. He'd leave the house. He loved going to work. He did. He's good at his job, I presume. Whatever it was.

Something needs to shake him out of it. You know, that's how television works. In real life, that's generally not how things transpire, but in sort of television storytelling. So what's the event? Well, fucking Marion. Yeah. Would be a short, sharp.

You can't do all this money. So what they should have done, right, is he should have failed in his bid to be comptroller earlier in the season. Also, by the way, can I say it's a political race? There's going to be a winner and a lot of losers. Fucking eat your beans, dude. It's fine. Pick yourself up.

Any successful politician has lost tons of races. It's how you learn. Bro. Learn how to be better for the next race. This one was personal. He took it personal. but this is the only time he's put his fucking hand out for

I don't think he's got the fucking stones to do this job anyway and in New York City going to have to work with Cuomo or Mamdani either way I don't think he's going to be getting I felt like the show was talking about Mum Darnie when they were like

yeah you lost their fucking community centre work with the batches I was like okay don't talk down on the leading candidate the timing's all off you're right man there was shades of it eh definitely shades of it But, no, I know, there's no time to redeem.

Okay. They've just fucking washed up. Trapped in Amber, Herbert's a loser forever. That sucks. Sorry to hear it. Can Joy handle the fucked up friendship group that she's backed into via Miranda? And again, talking of parts of pads coming out of the cupboard, they introduced the fact two episodes ago that Joy also kind of has a drinking problem

that she might want to address because Miranda's put it on the table. God! Wholesale gone. Like, never mentioned again. An interesting thread. A floor and a character that we can, you know, use for a bit of plot development and character development. But instead of exploring that,

nah, let's just fucking introduce some new characters. The way they talk about it, it's the way that people talk late at night when they're high. And they're like, you and me, man, we've got to start this business together. Yeah, it is.

And, you know, we're watching the conversation. They've actually got a good business idea. I hope they start it. And the next day, both hoping the other one doesn't bring it up because that feeling rinsed. Don't worry, there's more.

Anthony, is he going to be honest or stay engaged? I hope that he stays engaged. Do you think he's going to get a more beautiful partner than Giuseppe? I don't understand. His reservation is all unto himself, you know? Well, his reservation, again, it's told not shown. But Giuseppe has left the puppeteer's house. Yes.

Which is a damn shame. So I would like to see a bit more out of half. him fucking a I would like to see the front on shot I would love to see the front on shot I would love to I want to see the fucking A24 movie

of that character spun off absolutely just parading and he's hopeless he's been mothered to the point that he moved to New York and now Anthony's having to clean up after him

he cooks he cleanses he does everything a lot of his uncertainty is based on I think the new dynamic in their relationship which is the living together and he feels that the love is not as an equal but perhaps it is the love of someone

for the doting that they are performing and look to me I think Anthony you're just going to have to fucking grip it and write it out because I think Giusebi's going to grow up he's going to learn and I don't think he's going to find a greater love to take a little tiny side step

on your direct question can I just ask you a question do you think it is fucking crazy that Anthony goes to Carrie Bradshaw about him having cold feet about an upcoming wedding and she references Aiden and never brings up the fact

that Big left her at the altar because he got cold feet nor does anyone reference the fact that Anthony has previously been married nor does the show seem to remember because now Anthony's living in a pretty humble abode with Giuseppe now

that somehow they managed to get Liza Manali to perform at their wedding which was in like 52 times I might add It certainly felt like it For With a full chorus Yeah

Inside some Fifty two of the greatest experiences In my human life This show Is not bound By not just normal storytelling rules But just like Lineum memory man

It's funny as it Because the fans of Sex and the City Are Legion they are dedicated everything that has been put into the chamber is treated as law so the memories of the audience because this show is not hoovering up new fans no one has met and just like that it's all attrition i'm writing it out with you it's all attraction no one's done that and so it's crazy for like a show which is aware of its audience and basically trying to pay fan service to its audience by doing this is neglecting or ignoring like all of the vital

constituent parts. I mean, I know that there are amages that I'm missing inside of episodes. There are moments when they set a woman's right to shoes.

That was like a whole episode. And I was like, that should be the name of the episode. Someone told me, it was. You know, they're just saying it so that everyone remembers

that the show used to be good. Right. They're doing it like the way that they have assembled all of this law and backstory. And then while it's like up, just out of frame,

everyone who's watching the show can see it. Except the show. Like the show cannot see the moments it's referencing. And so they just continue to plow ahead. They're like, no, big never existed. Carrie never got married. She never cheated on her husband with Aiden.

Stanford, I hope, wherever you are in Japan. Yeah. That your pop stars going gangbusters. Yeah, man. That's my one hope. That's my hope. Do you think they're going to, invoke Samantha Jones in the last episode that's coming up at Thanksgiving?

Honestly. They're so fucked, either way. It's even money either way. They're damned if they don't. There is something to be said for, I mean, Kim control wouldn't have done a voice note, but like a text, just like a, you know, I mean, doesn't it speak to some of the problems that the show has faced that one of the most satisfying resolutions for the entire series that I can imagine is a text from Samantha Jones to carry like the before the closing credits

which is just thinking of you XS or S X X or X or X and then they fix the guess like and Carrie wakes up yeah and Biggs on the Peloton he goes Carrie where's my coffee I got a big meeting today next thing you know you're watching Christmas videos on YouTube fucking imagine. Is Giuseppe going to write a poem again? I forgot. I hope so. It's a beautiful thing to do.

Yeah. You're in New York City. You came from Italy. You should be performing poetry at open minds. And where the fuck is G? Alongside, um, puppeteers. Dude, she's back in. Are they from Sicily?

No, it's, uh, Buffalo. It's sorry, you're right. I always get those two confused. No, she's long gone She will never be mentioned again By the way, if you're curious The Principal at Rock School Is gay

Only recently though Actually, that was my shining light Don't care, didn't hate it The Principal I could tell you, it's been fucking an itch I cannot scratch the whole season When these last saw the principal in episode one

I thought to myself that guy's not being totally honest with himself that was the bit for you that needed to be to be resolved in the second to last episode ever

the principal of the school comes up to a seated Giuseppe and Anthony you know it's got shades of grown-ups too doesn't it everyone's turned out for this school recital Shaquille O'Neill and Peter Dante on the back wall

purving on the dance teacher. Yeah. So the principal comes up and like from him, he's kind of like, who were you? He's like immediately struck by this beautiful man. And then Anthony said, this is my fiancee. Yeah. Oh,

you're taken. You're taken. And he says, I only recently came out and then sort of excuses himself in a big but my shining light was Anthony saying, who's that queen? Before they quickly cut to another scene that was the button and I enjoyed it yeah I yeah I liked it too I mean like just putting him in there at all what did I what was my shining if you're doing them what was my shining light oh you know got to be something quite like the performance of the

baker nice I liked I liked her she felt like she was from a um sort of a different cinematic. I watched the borrowers recently. There were shades of the receptionist at the end of the borrowers. Like sort of... The borrower was the like 90s kids movie? Yeah, yeah. Otherworldly. Yeah, he plays Oshus P. Potter. Great movie

by the way. If you've got anyone in that sort of seven to ten band. Fantastic movie. Really fun. A lot of fun in games. But yeah, there were shades of like, the Baker was otherworldly with respect to the

the rest of Angios like that, you know, like the look and everything. I was like, oh, yeah. heightened, cartoony, comedic. Yeah, and also, you know, by the show's standards, working class. Yeah, you're right. Dressed and clothes that you'd be able to see in a shop. Berating every customer that wasn't Carrie Bradshaw. You're daring to ask the question if they could pre-order some Thanksgiving pies while

Carrie Bradshaw is, and I'm not making this up, ordering 20 in advance for herself. absolutely nuts look I'm sure we've missed a lot of characters but that was those were the questions I have as we approach our final episode yeah um not just of I suppose the show but also of us discussing

the show is there anything else that you any other uh you know eyes to dot or T's to cross in our conversation today no no um I am genuinely just so fucking curious about what they can do in this last

episode. There's no way to win now, but it will be really interesting to see the way in which they lose with ending this show. It's an interesting way of framing it. I mean okay. Odds on Michelle Obama appearing.

Dude, you've got to let this go. You're going to get your heartbroken. She's not going to, she's not coming. I'm so sorry. She's not coming. They forgot Marion existed. Do you think they're going to remember they've been seeding Michelle Obama clues for us earlier in this? Here it is. Samantha Jones, FaceTime's into Kerry. She's at a party with, she's at a Thanksgiving with Michelle Obama.

I would be so surprised if it happened and annoyed that they got Michelle Obama, but she'll be coming to us via a phone screen. Well, that's enough from us, and it's damn near enough from Mattress Pike Clit. Good luck in the kitchen next week, brother. We're all rooting for you. God knows you're going to need it. Thank you. Thank you.