The Worst Idea Of All Time - After The Laughter 2

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

How large are the fellaz living? Somewhere between medium and large. Fitting, because Tim's got a hot new t-shirt from TWIOAT alumni, Nick from Prawn Salad (S01E29). We hear from our friends who have engaged with the Worst Idea cut of Joker 2 and we hear Guy unravel when Tim affirms his ability to decide whether or not he will watch the movie again. We also dig into reddit/r/TWIOAT to find out what's happening with Rob Schneider. He's not doing well, folks!See all our video episodes at: twioat.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tim here. If you want to see me in the flesh and you're in New Zealand or Australia, good news. I'm coming to Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland and Wellington for the comedy festivals. Please buy some tickets now at timbat.com.com. Guy, I've got a new t-shirt. Says take time. Yeah. But it almost looks like take-tim. Yeah, it should say take-tim. A butterfly. And it's got butterfly.

And then on the back. Feed your mind. That's a fun t-shirt. You know he gave it to me? Your friend of mine, an alumni of this podcast, Nick Anderson G. Is it an online ceramics t-shirt? I've got no idea. He found it at a market and he thought of me.

So he bought it for it. Yeah, that's cool. You look cool? Thank you. People will remember Nick as the snoring co-hosts from episode... Prawn salad. 26, I think. I think it's 29. I like to think of him as the metronome of the episode, keeping perfect time in the background of two men as they spiral towards a giddy demise.

It's great to see you, brother. It's great to see you in your fancy. you garb, sipping on coffee, living, what do you reckon, small, medium large? Large. Are you? Living large, baby. Dude, that's awesome. 100%.

How about you? How would you describe your size of living? I wouldn't go past medium. I'm enjoying it, you know, the scale is appropriate for what I've got on, but I'm not, I'm certainly not in a living large era. I do kind of have, like, June circled to live large. Nice. I'm thinking June.

You know, we're still stationed in Arrowtown. Chelsea's still solving crimes underneath an alias. And then, you know, there's all this stuff. We're making another season of Spellingby, Australia, in April. And then straight after that, Chelsea is releasing her feature-fills. I can represent Caterpillar, wrote and directed, been working on it for eight years. It spans the entire length of our relationship. It's coming out in cinemas, New Zealand only presently, but it will be elsewhere.

It's being released in May around Mother's Day. So she's going to put that out in the world. Then we come back here. I'll say this. I'll pause on Guy in. I'm building up to when we're going to live large. but yeah, I'm listening. Chelsea's behalf, I cannot emphasize this enough.

If you've loved us, or you do love us, or you've a plan to love us in the future, and you live in New Zealand, you must go to that film on opening weekend Caterpillar with your friends or family, bring at least one other hot ticket buying body with you to the cinema. It is almost literally impossible

to make a movie. Even harder to do one in New Zealand, even harder for it to have any kind of cinema release. So please, for the love of God, open your heart and your mind to some... And your wallet. Good storytelling.

A little bit of wallet. It's not too bad. And go see Chelsea's movie when it comes out in May. Caterpillar. Please, I beseech you. So I've got that. I mean, that is obviously,

in a sense that's living large to be riding side saddle while your partner releases a feature film into the world that's enormous but it still falls under the banner of there's sort of a balancing of personal and professional responsibilities

to get these projects over the line and then after the movie comes out there's still more crimes to solve we're back in our town but after that and this has been we've been down here since November like end of May, start of June, we're living in our house.

We've got our whole family. We've got our friends. We've got our community back. And you can circle it. You can't circle the whole month, but you could pencil circle the whole month and say, in this period, guys living large. And God willing, Tim, I'd like to think that we can live large simultaneously during some of the weekends of that month. I reckon it could be on the cards, absolutely.

Absolutely. We are here in the bonds of friendship to see each other, catch up. Most importantly, engage with your wonderful correspondent from the wickedly talented listeners who write into us. Yeah, so this one here I've got from Adele Dazim. And it reads as well, and unsurprisingly, because obviously in our last, catch up we sort of we addressed one another and also a weighty piece

of correspondence from a professor Chris Malton and in this instance I feel as though there's a higher likelihood that we will be

reflecting and perhaps reminiscing on our journey with Todd Phillips and our minds through Joker 2 so this is

an email from early Feb hello Tim Boca and Gaila Quinn. Yeah, got it? I didn't.

Okay. Timboka? Timboka, Joker. Guy Laquin. Oh, okay, okay, okay. My girlfriend and I just finished watching Joker 2. We had zero interest in watching the film until you created the Frosty Fellas cut.

So he started at one hour, eight minutes and two seconds in. Okay, this is what I came for. Phenomenal course. out. The movie was interesting, entertaining, and dare I say, thought-provoking? One suggestion to share back in kind, my girlfriend and I are not interested whatsoever in musicals. So we decided that every time Joaquin Phoenix or Lady Gaga started singing, we would start cuddling. It made those moments much more bearable, and I'd recommend it to you both for any subsequent

viewing. Four thumbs up, Chris and Heather, P.S. thank you for your service, but please take care of yourselves. The first thing I have to say is there's not a fucking snowballs chance in hell of me going back. Even for the, even for the expedited cut, I'm not going back for any of that stuff. We'll see. No, no, no.

Because you actually don't have that agency over me, Tim. You can go back. but I don't like the tone of that we'll see I don't like the look in your eyes when you say we'll see I, Guy Montgomery am not watching that movie again unless like there is a gun to my head and Tim don't get into guns

no I'm not gonna well I'm not for that anyway no that's quite right you're in charge of your own destiny guy I am I feel like immense gratitude is owed to you for saying that,

which is definitely reflects like a broken... It's not a good... ...it's not a good relationship, I think. It's not good. You know, like, in the Declaration of Independent... Wait, is it the... In the US Constitution, you know, they say that the citizenry have certain unalienable rights

by the creator. What is it? An alienable. Inalienable, maybe. What is the prefix? In or un? I think it's in. Look, my point is you can't separate those rights from people.

You know, you can't pull them apart. And you cannot separate Guy Montgomery from Guy Montgomery's decision making on whether or not he'll engage with Joker 2 again. That's up to Guy Montgomery. And the creator has bestowed that upon Guy. There's no mortal that can fuck with that. The sort of exacting nature of how you're articulating something, which should just be accepted at face value as a truth, is sinister. So just let's just leave it.

I'm trying to, I am genuinely trying to be on your side at this point, but I also recognise the sort of whole digging nature of what I'm engaged in right now. Well, you got something for me, brother? Yeah, always, bro. normally I go from the bottom of the inbox up so that we can kind of, you know, get to the stuff that's been waiting the longest. But I'm not going to do that today because I want the relevant stuff. Yeah. Craig has written, I actually don't know how to get rid of this window so I can read

the email. Get rid of guy for a second. Oh boy. Now I've totally got rid of a guy. Here we go. Oh, for goodness sake. This is tricky. Keep a little bit of guy. For years, I followed the main advice on the worst idea of all time. Don't watch the film. But I was curious about the idea in episode 1 hour, 8 minutes and 2 seconds. That's how you say it, by the way. It's written just as numbers, but that's how you say it out loud. Had a free hour over dinner, decided to try it out. Folks, it works.

The movie was a perfectly fine short film epilogue to the first movie. Glad that after so long you finally fixed one of the movies. Thanks, Craig. Beautiful. Love it. Thank you, Craig. um that's like you know the the feedback i've received is not unanimous praise i will say that i will say some people still think of it as boring and disorienting and that is but they're in the minority

well yeah and also you know to their credit and to our sort of if we're being honest with ourselves that is totally reasonable and expected i don't think you know i don't want to um cast any doubt or irrelevance over what we said in that episode, but obviously we had worked pretty hard to get into a position where what we were saying felt as important as it did. So I can't expect anyone who's not put that work in to meet the work with the same sort of zealous excitement as we did.

I say this with nothing but love, respect and friendship in my heart, but I don't like the way you framed that guy. It was important. It was, it is important. It was important in that moment. Okay? Oh, it did. Undeniable.

It was earned importance. Now, a week ago, someone on the subreddit, Reddit, Reddit.com slash R slash twilight, put a post up. The post says the one hour, eight minute, two second edit. Just to say, oh, actually, let's shout out the user. Four person audience. Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I've edited together a cut of Joker Foliadur that opens with the cartoon sequence of the beginning,

then goes straight to an hour, eight minutes and two seconds for a total runtime of 73 minutes, including credits. Message me if you'd like the link, either for your own purposes or to run to run to my guys, propose the research project. Appreciate that. So just some comments on that thread.

The Fowler's already said, as listeners, we are not valid participants for the research project. That being said, color me curious about this edit. Someone else said, I'd appreciate seeing that. I'd love the edit, even if I unfortunately can't be part of the study period for the study period. Maybe that's supposed to be per guy in Tim's instructions.

So that's good. That's lovely. That's a good offer out there on the table. It's circulating, you know. We've had another post one day prior to that, so this is eight days ago per when we're recording right now. Real Robb's season three is going to be a fever dream. And then a screen cap from, it appears to be a Facebook post on the train. Trump Kennedy Center, because, you know, he renamed it.

It says, join journalist. I'm going to assume the pronunciation is Jan. Hmm. Yikilik, an actor-comedian, Rob Schneider, for an eye-opening discussion of Yikilek's new book, Killed to Order, which explores serious questions surrounding, sorry, organ transplant practices in China, and their wider worldwide implications.

Now, why did I giggle when I got to that bit? This is the hot chick. This is the animal. This is, you can do it from every Adam Sandler movie. This is a catchphrase comedian. This is a man who came to New Zealand and I paid face value for their ticket to go and see them for one reason only so I could record the show on my phone

and then have AI summarize it to see what it would say and the AI refused to engage with the content because, and I quote, it was too offensive. It was too offensive for AI to summarize. And I'm glad to see that Rob Schneider is dipping his awe in. Oh, man.

He is. Dude, you know how dudes often will lose their fucking minds during a divorce? Imagine that times multiplied by Rob Schneider. Like, this is going to be a long-running crash-out. It's crazy. It's like, because all of this stuff has preempts the divorce. So it's like, it's important, it's like you're multiplying the crisis,

someone will be plunged into by divorce by the power of a divorce. It's like, it's to the power of God knows what number. This guy, if you've been sort of enjoying or a cognizant of his blowouts, the periphery of your life for the past 10 years, can you even imagine, like, and thankfully, I will say the coverage does seem to be on the way because his relevance is on the way, but it is mind-boggling to think just how far down a wide variety of rabbit holes that man is about to or is currently going. That's not real Rob.

It's not in production, is it? That's just like a funny comment being like, can you imagine it? just a funny that was just a funny because he did someone also oh you go I was just going to say

on the subreddit just because it's immediately down someone a few days before that found a signed Rob Schneider is the hot chick

movie poster and just said the boys definitely need this well it's interesting because we spoke about it I watched the trailer but

Rob did um right and direct a feature film with John Cleese like 2020 Oh yeah Two maybe it was called Daddy Daughter Trip

And You know It's out there There is I suppose you could say Like unpasteurized Rob Schneider content out there For anyone I'm sort of looking at us

Who would like to sort of digest and analyse Actually, I'm looking at the wiki now, screenplay by his wife, Patricia, and Jamie Lassau, who plays his off-sider in the show. And directed by Rob. And a cameo by Michael Bublay. Okay, why not? Fucking why not, you know?

John Cleese, man. It's still disappointing. It's still disappointing. He's old enough that we shouldn't expect any different. I guess so, but it's just like, man, to possess such a self-centric view of the entire world that you could possibly possess any kind of victim complex when you're going through the world this John, please, is so crazy.

That's funny. I got one for you here. Please. Also from early Feb, dear tip-tap bang-a-rang and spelling bees, full Monty. You may remember us from our previous email you graciously addressed, where we discussed wasting our lives by playing a very long board game. And just for everyone's reference, this is a board game called SPI's the Campaign for North Africa that is rumoured to take 1,500 hours, aka at the rate they were playing it,

They speculated it would be an eight-year project. So this is an update, just shy of one year on. It's been over a year since we started playing the campaign for North Africa every week. We're now to the fourth turn of our six-turn practice run. Oh, God. When this concludes, we'll start the full game consisting of a high. 11 turns. We're on track to finish in 48 years.

And quite frankly, the adjustment of the doomsday clock recently now brings the looming spectrum of the apocalyptic collapse of society before we finish the game. Guy said, Guy, you said last time you hoped we were young. We're both pushing 30, so that 48 year prediction isn't great news. Thank you for both fighting the good fight on the other side of the world, especially tackling Joker 2, how do you do? I quite like that. We look forward to the Avengers level crossover.

We listen to our 49-year podcast every week for a year. Linear time be damned. Yours, subtle, humble and bravely, Andy and James of War with a Mate podcast. So if anyone is curious, I have not yet visited the experiment, but it does feel like, I think, a year in. It's probably a nice time if you're curious to dip your toes. That is war with a mate.

From the tone of the email and the sort of self-knowing nature of the futility of what they're doing, it does sound like it could be a very good time. So I recommend, I guess, giving it a whiz, war with a mate. It's so funny. A happy good on you, lads. To be two-thirds through your practice run of a game that's going to take 48. Staying in the subreddit for a moment longer. Title, they bloody did it. This is from Nick on Toast.

The boys have triumphed over their fierce competitor, Todd. What an incredible season. Oh, thank you. I would love to hear people's favorite moments. Also, what other method film reviews could you see having high potential and only inflicts slight mental harm? I genuinely meant a lot to get something like this again. The pod has been with me during so many life transitions

and it's such a balm to experience another absurdist journey with the boys again. Some comments, Guy, for you? Would you like some? Yeah, I'd love some. Get you gassed up. Such a fantastic season. Really want to know more about Tim's test screenings. The wheels were already in motion after all.

That's addressed in the prior episodes, unfortunately. though I haven't put the whole thing to bed I'm just there's a bit going on at the but there was a there was a pocket there was a window when I was really trying to get it done

it didn't come off unfortunately but a window might present itself later this year when I can I could I still think it's worthy I just liked the I liked the articulation of the wheels already in motion like that speaks to the intensity of where we were operating at at the time

hard out another comment favorite episode was the one where guy was caps going through it the same episode where they tried to name 15 jokes from the movie i sinned and watched the movie the week before the revelation of one hour eight minutes and two seconds during the opening cartoon when the police come by going oh up up up up all i could think of was tim desperately trying to quantify that as quote a joke it's fun it's fun hearing this stuff with a healthy bit of distance. Yeah, we needed a bit of a cool off, eh? Here's another guy.

As a suggestion for us, Avatar the Way of Water, but the boys are not allowed to be dry for any watch. Wow. That's not nothing. It's three hours and 12 minutes. Oh, my God. So that feels a bit. Yeah, that feels a bit much.

Loved it all. Good job, boys. I was a bit throwing off listening to this season. spread out over months so I'm looking forward to marathoning it in real time day four will certainly be rough also starting an official petition for a bonus 15th group watch and analysis with dr susy once she has made it through her own 14 watches so susy's watched it I think more than us right no it was I think it was less but it was all in cinema it was a um it was a repeated screening it was I think it was pushing eight um

She, well, I mean, that letter really sort of brought the whole thing home, didn't it? That was a real... It was beautiful. It was a very sort of serendipitous thing that we stumbled into the fact that there was a person out there qualified to assess what we'd done. This is why you got to, whatever you're doing, you've got to get Alexei Ptollipolis involved because he just won't put you wrong. Massive shout out, Alexi Toliopolis. He's actually touring, I don't know if it's his first stop. It might be his debut hour.

he's doing a show called VHS at the Australian Comedy Festals. I'm such an Alexi fan. I saw him the other week. I was in Sydney for a night to test the new games for Spelling Bee, and Alexi was one of the kind comedians to come and do run-throughs, and he was absolutely making me laugh and laugh and laugh. I'll bet. I hope I get to see that guy when I'm over.

Do you have anything you want to share going? And also, I'll work to you. I know you've got to bounce at some point. So you just let me know when you got it. Yeah, yeah, I will do. I got one here. Again, early February, dear Flash and Tim the Toolman. Love the Joker 2 season.

I always wanted to know what happened after I stopped watching that movie after 20 minutes. But now I think I'll start again at one hour, eight minutes and two seconds. Anyway, I wanted to draw your attention that France made a new Emanuel movie in 2024. I'm curious of your take on this new installment of the series. That is interesting. That's like, you know, you know, you know, between the looming cloud of grown-ups three and daddy daughter, Tripp and Emmanuel like that.

And not to mention, we have not engaged with the brain machines. The latest brain, yeah. Well, there's the latest brain, but there's also like a 10-hour, is it a filmmaking seminar or something? He puts something out. Oh, my God. That I really want to, I want to hoover up. Maybe I'll do that on my own time and report back.

I will also say, it was a few years ago. After a, like a sort of, I don't know if it was self-imposed or industry imposed, but a five or six-year exile from cinema releases, Tom Hoopers, back at the Genius Factory cooking up something. Yeah, he's just directing it. It's called Photograph 51. But it's interesting to see, I suppose, life is long and careers are long.

and, you know, everyone just has to keep doing stuff. He's had quite an extended call-off period because I haven't heard boo on my Google alerts of Tom Hooper since Cats came out. He's really, he went to ground, eh, all this time. He was in New Zealand. People kept sending us sightings. He was in the South Island.

Sometimes you've just got to go to ground. So it's so, like, I don't know if ever in your life you've been told to go to ground. I have like, I got told when I was racing my friend Dave Ormrod in a half marathon and the burning Auckland heat and like, it must have been about 2009 or 10. I hadn't trained at all and I was trying to. The loser had to get the winners, the initials tattooed on there. I'm sure I've said this before.

But the last memory I have from that race is trying to gas Dave at the 17th kilometer going downhill and getting jelly legs. And one of the coarse minders, like, looking me in the eyes and holding my shoulders and saying, you need to go to ground. Wow. In a literal sense. Yeah, I was literally told to go to ground. That's so fucking funny, man.

Yes. Good Lord. Let me get maybe one more email. Yeah. And I've got, I've got. I've got one more from the Facebook as well Hey well this one's from Dan

and it's actually about Fast and Furious Subject lines Fast and Furious viewing order Hi, I have friends who love the podcast and love question mark the Fast and Furious franchise I have never listened to the podcast and I haven't seen any of the movies except for the fourth one on a horrible date and I'm excited to do both of these things

In your professional opinion which order should I watch them in The obvious option is to follow the podcast order, but I'm kind of leaning towards watching the movies in order and listening to the podcast in reverse. I'm not sure if that's too much. Love future podcast listener, Dan. Wow.

I've got some advice on this, but Guy, if you've got any thoughts, I'd love to hear that. No, honestly, I mean, a fun game for us maybe to play, either on or off mic would probably be to recount the plot of the nine Fast and Furious movies we watched because Lord knows that is one enormous car soup, and all the ingredients have bled into one flavor, which is just like sludge.

So I've got no valuable insight into the undertaking that you're looking at. Man, I'd have less than a dozen brain cells dedicated to retaining any of that year of our lives. The Fast and Fury stuff is not in there. It's not in there at all. But what I would say is, there have been people studious academics online who have figured out

the plot chronology of Fast and Furious which is baffling it jumps all around the place I want you to watch it in that order in our accompanying episodes as a dessert okay

so you mean like whatever the dictated chronology by the experts is watch it in that order and then also the corresponding analysis of those specific episodes. Correct. Wow. That is going to

be so confusing. All right, let's round it out here. This one from Nick C who says, hey Tim and Guy. I don't know if you'll ever read this, but I just watched grown-ups two with my wife last night after

binging the 54-plus episodes of your analysis of the movie. I found it be in-depth, hilarious and uniquely insightful from a mental health perspective. Listening to the gradual decay of your own stability was something I've never experienced before. And as we watched the film, my wife turned to me and asked, Are you okay? You look miserable. To which I replied, this watch means something else to me than it does to you.

In summary, thank you for what you do. It is completely unnecessary and at the same time entirely amazing. I've listened to the other seasons and I'm loving the Joker 2 method review. There was something almost haunting about being able to point out Arnold Schwarzenegger's son by saying, hey, he's the guy who'll say my brother's hands are shaking. It was my own personal, Patty Schwartz party time. Much love from a friend of the podcast, Nick C. Nick, there's a few things I like in that message, your tone, your analysis,

and the fact that you have got a life partner is honestly a weight off my shoulders. I just want to say one thing in response to that correspondence, and it's been in my here ever since you said Nick's name Nick'sy and the weekly top 40 Wow What's the radio station That is

Rick D Right He's voice Shaggy Oh wow It's all news to me It doesn't matter Like it doesn't matter Oh Rick T's that's right

Rick D's It's been And the weekly Top 40 It's been a pleasure and a privilege to spend time in your company and the company of our esteemed listener Hell yeah

here's what's going to happen now if I may Okay Our beautiful listenership family community commune sole libertarian listener will now be treated to because I

Guy and I've just been talking and we think you know the vibe is right to do a role of Killionier TV, which if you forget, it was a few years ago now. This started in a really weird way where a story unfolded between Guy and I, which took us all around the globe, won some pretty crazy adventures, and then evolved into a game show where we invited listeners to join us, Guy and I were judges, and what we were judging were people's

pictures on how to get the first billionaire to a trillionaire status and then how we would murder them. Important moral context for that, I think we can all agree universally that trillionaires definitely, definitely shouldn't exist. So it was a fun project. I loved it. We had such great contestants. Comedy project for anyone listening along. And certainly some interesting ideas. It was sort of shark tank in a way it was shark tank to its logical end point and yeah

I mean I I remember the house you lived in when we recorded that I don't remember the particulars otherwise We went to the studio Well that's right Parishet Yeah but

Oh but before that I mean I still remember the house you were And I remember recording episodes of that In your house on It was in Sandringham What was the street not the well we don't need

to dox me but yeah yeah it was one of those can we docks historic Tim can we what's the rules there

well I don't I don't you know it's fine it's just yeah it was in Sandringham it was a great project

I loved getting all the various ideas mainly the like how do we off whomever be a Jeff an Elon I don't think there are any Donalds in the mix.

But yeah, we're going to re-roll that. And then Guy and I are sort of just having a little look at things because we're both pretty heckers at the moment. So we're just figuring out what the next adventure could be. Conveniently, actually, at the start of this episode, I did lay out my immediate timeline for plans to live large. And I'd say respectfully to you, our listener, it's important to me I get some personal tim time before we mind melt into whatever

whatever pitiful state we find ourselves for your consumption we love you we respect you and most importantly we will be here for you yeah just in one fashion or another that's right goodbye guy goodbye tim