The Worst Idea Of All Time - AJLT S02E07 w/ Chris Parker

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

Guy and Tim are joined by friend of the podcast AND friend of the gals, Chris Parker! Not only a dedicated fan of the non-canonical Sex and the City franchise but also a man who worships at the altar of Sarah Jessica Parker’s portrayal of Carrie Bradshaw.While the show continues apace (with the reintroduction of Aidan!!!) Chris discusses his teenage years trying to sneak an episode of the show in after bedtime and his ideal day in Auckland with SJP. The boys also imagine a spin-off focusing exclusively on Anthony and the Hot Fellas bakery boys. Tim worries for the objectification of an Italian man with an enormous dick and everyone remembers a store in the Riccarton Mall called Granny Mays.Intro theme: Brendan LordanOutro theme: SterlingSupport us via our Substack for access to premium content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mumble number five Right on the chin, so catch up with the old ragtag bunch. What was the idea you ever had in your entire life? Aha! Mumbo number five. Jump up and down, and move it all around. Put your hands to the sky, put your hands on the ground. Take one step left, and one step right. One to the front, and one to the side. Clap your hands once, and clap your hands twice.

And if it looks like this then you're doing it right yeah the trumpet trumpet and then it's all about that trumpet welcome along to the worst idea of all time running through season two of and just like that we've just watched episode seven and we're joined today by a very special guest in the form of chris parker it's a dream to be here is it yeah i was just sitting in the chair just thinking it doesn't get better than this because this is all you this is all a little gay boy like me wanted was like to be able to live in a world where we could watch and just like that with my two best straight friends this is allyship of the highest order well this is a safe place it is a very

safe place what did it feel like when um because you accused us of carry slander multiple times while we were watching the episode what does that feel like where's that on the scale of allyship well i think i mean it's all up for debate isn't it i mean this is sport now we are watching it like fans of sport and we have the people that we are rooting for and i'm just have always been team carry even though i can agree she is just the most toxic person on the place i just i will never not be sort of cast under the sarah jessica parker spell i love this analogy so much it's it's it's sort of out of your control. Like your dad was a Carrie supporter,

so you have to be a Carrie supporter. You've backed her for the longest time. And you know when your team does you wrong, you're like, oh no. But you've seen her do it all as well. Like you've seen her go through the ups and the downs and you've been there the whole time. I've seen everything.

She's scrambling to cover it up, but I've seen it all. But I just ask you this, out of all the actors in the cast Who is delivering the performance That makes you fall in love with this show Time and time again That's a great question

One that I don't think we've confronted Honestly, I mean Serious Kapaka does embody Carrie For all of her foibles Thank you So convincingly The continuity from Sex and the City right up into this, flawless

I think it's because it is it's hard to tell where Sarah Jessica Parker ends and Carrie Bradshaw begins and she has been playing this person for so long now that and had such a big creative role on the show as well she's been an EP for so long that she's been able

to influence what Carrie's trajectory is the dna has melded like that you know she's in separate like to us especially to people who are um i don't know not i'm not a syria jessica parker stan i only really know her through this it is like it the fibers are totally interwoven it's i can't separate the two it's new york you know when she's in new york she is carrie i think when she's out when she's in la well we we can actually test that when she's in abu dhabi unfortunately she is still carrie yeah but she's not sarah jessica parker weirdly yes she feels off yes yeah so you've obviously watched some If not all of the TV show Yeah Non-canon Sex and the City

You've seen According to Guy Both the films Both the films How much in Just Like That Had you seen before today? I've watched all of season one I've watched one

I've watched the first episode Of this season Yeah And then I watched half an episode In London with Alice Neddon And I was like This is great And then I had to go

And I was late for somewhere and I was furious. I feel bad because we all just watched episode six together. Seven. And do you know what? It just doesn't matter.

Does it? That is my suspicion. It's like you plug in, you plug out. It's the power of storytelling. It's the power of this universe. It's the power of these characters. You can just,

you can fall in and immediately have all the evidence you need because you It's the power of these characters. You can just, you can fall in and immediately have all the evidence you need because you know them like your favorite sports team. I have to know a little bit about watching it with Alice Sneddon. It sounds like fun

and it sounds like you were frustrated that not only did you not get to finish it, you didn't get it either way. She was hungover on a couch. Instead of having it both ways, you missed the end of the episode and you were late to your engagement.

Yeah. I was so tempted to like cancel where we were going so that we could finish the episode but it was really important to commit to the plans i mean i think she would be one of the people who would really highlight the idea of watching it like sports she'd be yelling at the characters i'm imagining there was lots of sighing because she was hung over like a lot of that like he's so fed up with it but still persisting like we persist we persist we persist with this series and we don't know why but it casts a spell on us because we root for it this is what people say is that has this weird hypnotic sort of hold over um over all of us so what tim and i have found as we've traipsed through season two

is the show has sort of gone from being uh an enjoyable disaster to occasionally being like a serviceable tv show to meeting its goal like its kpis as a as a like entertainment program how did you find watching this the seventh episode after sort of dipping in and out through season two how do you find the quality of the show how do you find the storytelling yeah i think i have my my big clue on this and what is the success of season two is the first season was all tied into the legacy of sex in the city they were were constantly explaining themselves, giving us Easter eggs, and kind of just commenting on the epicness of what was Sex and the City.

It was like, every episode was like, and we're back, and she's back, and New York is back. And then what we want from the show is just trivial, stupid nonsense, because that's what the show was, and was a bit of heart and like sort of toxic friendships. And so for the show to kind of get through all its legacy jerk off and to finally be in a place where it's like,

and Charlotte ate a weed brownie. And like, and that's just where the show really wins for me. It's fair. It's not honoring what the original show, which is ironic. It's found it within itself. They're trying to honor it by doing all of this fan service in the first season. But it's not honouring what the original show which is ironic it's found it within itself they're trying to honour it

by doing all of this fan service in the first season but it's like no no no stop imbuing it with all of this because this isn't

what we loved about the TV series and now season 2 is okay now it's its own thing it's telling its own stories this was especially a light

sort of fun episode we open with the idea of Aiden being you know really hammered home there's an email from aidan so that's set up yes and then basically through the first and second act of this episode it's all b plot no one's given anything really meaty or juicy to do it's just a bunch of inconsequential chris it just purely out of interest would you be able

to attempt to um tell us all the things that are happening in this episode? What's going on in episode six? It is just chock-a-block. You know, because you're right, we kick off with this email from Aidan, which initially I was just like, God, that is a class act. You know, for an ex to email you, not a DM, not a text, a fucking email,

it's like a handwritten letter in this day and age. Like, it is sealed, wax sealed. Like, it is just beautiful. Like I got goosebumps at the idea and it's like, all I want is a personal email from someone. You know, isn't that just beautiful? And so we're in such a good place and we are also just like seeing Carrie in her bedroom

and it's just like, we're home. And then where are we at? Well, Miranda, I've learned because I'm watching this out of order, is not with Shay, which is shocking, but also not surprising. And so Miranda is, she doesn't know if she's lesbian or not.

And we're like Cynthia Nixon, you know you're a lesbian. And they're just teasing us, aren't they? And so she's kind of, it's Valentine's Day, and that is the core of this whole episode. Soon to be she's kind of, it's Valentine's Day. And that is the core of this whole episode. Soon to be Valentine's Day. Soon to be Valentine's Day. Yeah.

And we know that Sex and the City do Valentine's Day well. Don't we, boys? It's their Christmas. We actually do. You know, we remember Carrie and Miranda at that restaurant with those strings. Oh my God, we do. And that's some of the best film moments of my life. You know, it's just goosebumps, tears.

Where's Charlotte at? Well, she's got a- Can I just remember, who was struggling in the movie when they're out for the Valentine's meal together? They're both struggling, I guess. They're both struggling. Miranda's on the rocks with Steve, who is not in this episode.

It's just heartbreaking, isn't it? He's popping up. Is he? Yeah. Along the show. Scant, but he was in the last one. He's just getting his body into shape. He is fit as a the show it's scant but he was in the last one he's just getting his body into shape he is fit as a feather so okay um charlotte has a uh charlotte's teenage non-binary child is

a model rock and i mean this is it's funny that um if like all the non-binary characters in this show have to be these success entertainers. They're either models or famous comedians. But I like what they did with Rock. Because it was put upon Rock and then they were like... I don't want to do this. Nah, not for me. The actor playing Rock has been heading out of the park since this series began. I agree.

Rock is a fun character. And what I love is... What's underneath this is clearlylotte's like i don't know who i am in all of this and that was just so beautiful and and the glimmer that she's gonna go back to the gallery at the end of the episode i i screamed like sport um because for me that's when charlotte was in her prime well they they did tease that out an episode you would have missed she met an art dealer at a dinner yeah and sort of you could see it being rekindled but what this show does

episode to episode is it throws something up and you think oh they're going to catch that and then it skips over two episodes and you're like did they forget they threw that up and then all of a sudden it comes

but you see them catch it two episodes later and you're like oh no oh you didn't forget that you had written that you just threw it up really high yeah

well what I love about Charlotte was like Charlotte season one of sex in the city she and she was in that gallery she was in her prime she was having this relationship with a female artist in the gallery she was the she was a charlotte we barely recognize today is charlotte bi she well she wasn't season well she was just she was it was the 90s in new york and anything goes like she was in the art world she She was in the art world. She was amazing and like just a totally real character and then I don't know what happened,

but she turned into such a psycho and like a caricature. But, you know, I'm watching that scene quite early in the episode where they're sitting at breakfast and they're talking about Valentine's Day and all their plans and they're sitting on

just the most frustratingly cushioned seats. There's not a single uncushioned seat in this series. And that, for me, is the core class issue of this show. None of them are sitting on just hardwood anymore. Yeah. Every scene, every shot, every frame, it's like... Every chair is over... Honestly, it's remarkable and observable

when Carrie goes to accidentally the wrong restaurant when she's on a date with Aidan. It's remarkable because it's just a regular place. It's a. Honestly, it's remarkable and observable when Carrie goes to accidentally the wrong restaurant when she's on a date with Aiden. It's remarkable because it's just a regular place. It's a normal restaurant. And in the world of the show, it's like, oof, we've dropped into reality hard. Or when Miranda enters the apartment of her... Trist?

Trist participant. We can explore the pace of that Kind of encounter but The apartment is like oh my god She's living in squalor She's in this terrible shoddy New York apartment but that is the Apartment that we recognise and love From Sex and the City

I don't know what's happened but they've just Like over the years from You know the Sex and the City universe into the And Just Like That universe just every chair got covered in fabric and cushion And every apartment got expanded beyond belief The square footage I'll tell you what It's fucking ass

They're fighting for the working class through the beds While the apartments get bigger The beds get smaller The beds are getting smaller Almost to make the apartments look bigger It's an absurd thing Miranda To be fair Miranda's sleeping in a music studio,

but she's in a children's bed, it looks to me. That makes sense because she's in a transient state. Okay, sure. We see Harry napping in this, and Harry and Charlotte's bed can barely hold Harry napping alone. It's a small ass bed. But they all have ottomans. It's just unbelievable what's going on.

Ditch the ottoman and with the change, upgrade. Do yourself a favour, get a king. It was just that absurd shot of Carrie just lying, leaning against a wall with her art that was lit. And she just turns it off. And I don't know what happened, but I think they just loved the shot. They just loved the shot.

And I think- She has a double bed. I feel like Sarah Jessica Parkeressica parker liked the idea of in an apartment having like a gallery lamp above the painting yeah it is like the you said at the start the visual language changes from episode to episode yeah they're just putting in shit that they think looks good every now and then but that's more about how they're shooting it because at the start of this episode they're doing um some sort of dialogue scenes when they're all at the table which they do very often but in this time it's almost like

they're directing down the barrel of the camera for their lines and we haven't seen we haven't seen that before they keep just throwing like the last episode oh no the one before episode four i think it was very obvious that they had bought or rented a new dolly and they had all these bizarre moving shots that had never been seen before or since. They're like embracing the streaming. You know how shows now will be like, this episode's 20 minutes and this episode's an hour.

All of these episodes are running at 45, but instead- We got a steadicam. This one's in 3D. The way they've taken the off-rope is they're like- GoPros. There needs to be no through line in how we film this anyway sorry it's almost

futile to sort of go through the plot of this whole episode because truly like it is so much I was just thinking then about for me where

there's two points I think where this episode really thrives yeah and that's in the final moments of this of this episode when Carrie and Aiden go on their

date and then we're outside her apartment and he's standing on the road and the the dialogue about the apartment and their relationship and how things have changed but it's that hitting hard for you it's hitting it's so overridden the metaphor is so thick and and also so thin. I was there for that. But I was into it. It just feels like classic Sex and the City. And then also Anthony. The Hot Fellas subplot. The Hot Fellas. We have to get to it because they have a lot of,

we've also got a Herbert and Lisa Todd Wexley subplot that goes through it. Miranda. Their one's boring. Miranda's got a subplot everyone's charlotte and harry've got their subplot carries us with aiden and there's nothing happening the most exciting thing because this is again they're just throwing a lot of stuff up the one that really lands is something that they haven't referenced the entire second season is anthony started hot fellas

bakery and it's hot guys and little denim onesies delivering hot bread. How much do you think it costs to get a loaf, one loaf, one baguette delivered by a hot fella? Can we please understand, I need to understand the parameters of the business. So I go on the website. Yes. I order a plain loaf of bread. Yes.

Is it? The baguette, yes. The baguette. Baguette from a baguette. I can say that. But your listeners can't laugh at that. I don't know. Some of them can.

Some of them can. It sort of looks like Subway bread. It's more high-end than that. But not by too much. But I don't think that's where the cost is coming from. You know what I mean? I think we're entering reality here. America's got bad bread

you've said this about America before American bread is bad and it's like across the board the standard's really low

there's a lot of sugar in it and so it's remarkable when you get a good loaf you're like oh this is good bread and if that loaf is coming hot from a hot fella

from a hot fella I mean hot fellas Anthony is either taking his after ball or just giving these guys too long of a leash because he's in the kitchen being like we're going on drew barrymore's talk show and one of his hot guys is fucking injecting hgh thigh being like yeah my calves are underperforming and it's like this fucking rips so what i love as well is that Anthony's created a workplace environment

where that would have normally been okay. Like what a remarkable boss. What's interesting about Hotfellas as well is like, I guess the loaf is a fella? Yeah. Like the name of it doesn't really... It's Goodfellas. They've got the Goodfellas font on the Hotfellas.

Oh, I never got that. I just think for a second, can we imagine? Because I think you're right i just think you really for a second can we imagine because i think you're right i think anthony would create a workplace where it's like yeah it's pretty chill you can like inject your hgh in the kitchen on the way through yeah and then he's the sort of temperamental boss who will show up one day and be like no more injections how are the staff talking about it you know like when they all walk off the job because they're like well if we're not allowed hormones then we're not but the gays that work for him are so toxic as well

like and that's what makes this place truly hum because he he has hired the worst gays in West Hollywood like or you know in America

just the worst in New York like these guys are like horrible these are the guys that block you on Grindr they're toxic and are these I've heard you describe uh these thoroughbreds what is a thoroughbred oh you know just those gays that

are just abs like you know body like they run les mills you know they're just all over the place and they're just horribly toxic um so mean to women so mean to everyone so mean to their own community but they'll definitely stand up there on a pride float and take you know and wave and talk about the struggles

but they're just I know exactly there was a real life example of this at Johanna's comedy festival show some thoroughbreds started a fight

with my sister-in-law and they almost came to blows it's a it's a yeah exactly and these are the guys that are being

hired by Anthony and he treats them like dog shit and so it's perfect it's a perfect it's a perfect business model and they're not like these these gays you know they they'd be terrible employees as anthony is a terrible employer yes absolutely that's that's what makes it all work right? Is that he has to be this tyrannical psycho who constantly... They would be fucking everywhere. Keeping them off balance, right? The whole thing of like, no, you all must do GH.

You all must do G all the time to look as good as possible. And then one day come in and be like, there's no more ejecting. There's no more hormone. You've got to keep a very destabilized environment. You built that locker with the needles in it. Like you put that in here. Yeah, yeah. There's no more ejecting. There's no more hormone. You've got to keep a very destabilized environment. You built that locker with the needles in it.

You put that in here. Yeah, yeah. But in the world of this episode, this is all really good stuff because it frees us up to meet the Italian poet Giuseppe. And it is honestly when the episode sings is that entire little subplot. I think it was mostly written to incorporate

Drew Barrymore and his show. It feels like it's all in service of that. for who for them for the gays i mean for me for me for chris at that point i was watching it and we see drew barrymore into the screen i thought god who is this show for because and do you think it's all for me i think. Like this was a show written for, it was written for my mother. And then for me to come in from behind and just be like, you're wrong. It's for me.

Cause we would sit down as a family and watch sex in the city. And wow. Well, not as a family. So we'd be watching whatever was on before, which is like ER or something. We're just some horrible, you know,

like hospital trauma show. And then the show would finish. If I knew if I sat still enough, I could get through that like mum would forget that i was in the lounge because you'd watch tv together it's like jurassic park and you're trying to yeah the t-rex and the thing you weren't there but i catch the first 15 minutes can i ask me to bed i remember you know you we both grew up um in christchurch yeah we've discussed before having similar upbringings yeah what was it like for you when there was nudity on screen and you were with mum and dad it's thrilling you know well

for me thrilling because you know like it would be but it's weird because i wasn't like into the boobs and i'm sure mum and dad were like oh that's fine for him like it's probably good he sees those at least once in his life. But holding your head clockwork, oranging you through your tits. But this sassy female-female dialogue is too much for him. We'll put it on mute and just fast forward to the scene where Charlotte takes a chop off. Too much Samantha is a bad influence on this kid.

And so every now and then Mum will be like, oh, And so like every now and then I'll be like, oh, Chris, it's bedtime. And I'll be like, oh, you know, I get a glimmer into the world. Have you ever finished an episode? It sounds like you're constantly getting cut off by the world. I have watched, I've watched the, I've been binging the series like just recently,

but now, but now that the show is, you know, like it's, they're writing it for me. They're writing it for us gays in our 30s who are like Syracuse, Pakistan. And it's just like, it feels weird, but it feels right. And that's when, you know, when Drew Barryman was on screen,

he just like, they truly are leaning into their gay audience there, it feels like. And they've totally been like, okay, ladies, take a second. Do you know anything about who is writing it now? Like what this writer's room looks like for this show? Well, they'll all be on strike now, won't they? Well, that's true.

They managed to get this out, though. I still think it's a theory I floated at the start of the season. It's Mattress Pikelet King, and he's programmed several different gender and sexual identities into artificial intelligence. And he's got AI that thinks it's a person spewing out these scripts from a million different perspectives. Right.

I think it's a whole bunch of people just saying yes. They're like, what if the Italian poet has a huge cock? And they're like, love it. And then it's down on the page. It's just down on the page. A lot of ideas. Some of the the real good was so good so charlotte recruits giuseppe from he's a he's right sitting in a bookstore that she's in and he's offering romance poems for a dollar and the pace she at the pace she spots him yeah it's like she is nancy drew like she's on the case

already like yeah without a moment she's talking to anth. He's like, I'm on Drew Barrymore and all my gays are too hooked on G to be on Drew Barrymore. That's his issue. Yeah. And within a second, she spots this Italian poet in a card store, no less.

That's right. And they have a fun little subplot where she's like, I'll pay you $300 not to write a poem. And he's like, I'm not going to fuck you later. Yeah. She's like,

that's not what I'm asking. And then he gets to the Drew Barrymore studio. They get him in the little hot fella's outfit and his cock is enormous. Fuck you, lady. Yeah, yeah. He's like, that's not what I'm asking. And then he gets to the Drew Barrymore studio. They get him in the little hot fella's outfit. And his cock is enormous. It's like that old 50 Cent. Was it 50 Cent? It was the game, maybe.

Did he have an enormous... There was a photo of one of them. It was them and just their white jocks spotlighting the cock. And the outline is intimidating. It's not only long, but this thing is thick this is it's like a it's like a loaf of bread like it's so big and it's just perfect because he comes out in the outfit everyone's like well that's what he's wearing and he goes on and then we get to watch drew playing around skirting around with fun with language this guy obviously having a massive cock that cannot be hidden inside of it. I didn't love this. Go on. I didn't love the objectification of Giuseppe

because there was not a single moment on the episode from Giuseppe's perspective. Well, it's not for you, Tim. That's true. That's true. He really was an artist, is an artist. He is a poet writing his poems, trying to make it work, trying to put it together.

That guy writes shit poems. He's running right up. It doesn't matter if they're bad he's in a card store on valentine just before valentine's day yeah writing poems and i was like yeah man that's a guy doing his art he's got a big cock fine but i feel like he's being exploited by charlotte by drew barrymore and soon by the entire population of america who's going to be bloody Instagram DMing him and accosting him. He said yes to that gig. He needed the money. He's a struggling artist.

And then he says, Rosa Red, Violets of Blue, if you don't do this, I'm fucked. He said, I'll kill myself, which is another exploitative technique used against Giuseppe. That doesn't rhyme. Suggesting his understanding of poetry

is that all of it must rhyme. The guy can't write a fucking verse. Yeah. We don't know that. I agree. I thought he was being ridiculous. And I was like, he needs to hang along with Hot Fellas

and like, let's see where this business can go. And I was excited for it. And I was immediately hungry for the spinoff of Anthony. Oh God, I want that. Hot Fellas. I think truly,

probably a more successful series. It'd be amazing. It'd Hot Fellas. I think truly, probably a more successful series. It'd be amazing. It'd be so fun. Because you could put anyone, and it would be one of these shows, right, where you've got this beautiful structure where like you've just, bit actors come in,

comedians can improvise and can come in, do a thing, roll on. Like it's just, it's perfect. I want it to be shot Like a document I want it to be like An in kitchen Documentary Arrested development

Kind of style But it's like You know It's like an undercover bot You know It's not that But it's like You're in the kitchen

With them while they're Doing it all I want a confession cam From Anthony All the time Oh these fucking gays In your gym You know

I would love it It feels real Yeah it's the beer season three. We're just like, thrusted into the world of Anthony and Hot Fellas in New York. In the last episode, I was speculating about how exciting it would be

if they released all of Shea Diaz's oeuvre from the show for us to watch. Like if we could watch the comedy concert, if we could watch the full uneared pilot. And I thought it was interesting, like Shea and Miranda break up the episode before this and then Shay

like they it's almost pointed because Miranda we see Miranda ignoring a phone call from Shay no okay but then

next scene Carrie and Shay hanging out it's like hey so you know Shay and Miranda aren't together but Shay's still here

yeah Shay's in the show now that was interesting what do you think of that Chris I well it's funny that They were like Let's bring

Shay in But I felt like it Raises more questions Around Carrie's Yeah Allegiance to Miranda Miranda

But I guess then Carrie knows Shay Through the podcast Well for your reference Yes And in the last episode Carrie lent on Shay For support in a public

speaking event and so their friendship has been consolidated outside of the miranda shay dynamic they did go together they did go while miranda and shay were still together i think there should be a moratorium in the wake of the breakup it's too soon beyond that just to hear some defense for carrie um you know you can see why I feel the way I do and just to see just to almost feel your voice begin to raise

I was offering context no you were defending you were defending a perfect woman and you can't deny the spell that Sarah Jessica Parker

has laid on you there is a spell I'm not going to deny that Shay's got a spell on me too she just breathes through every scene. And I just, there's something about her hair. And it's kind of like, it's just long and just fucked up.

And she's like, I'm going to throw this fucking nonsense hat on. And I'm going to wear like four types of plaid. And I'm just like, yeah, you fucking psycho. I love you. I love you. Without the worst puns you've ever heard in your life. I just constantly think about like I would say

once a year since maybe the age of 14 like Carrie oh sorry I mean who is who but Sarah Jessica Parker

being in New Zealand and it's my job to show her around and I'm like what is the Auckland I would show my friend around

like I drive her around. I'd go straight to the airport and get a rental car for Matthew Broderick. He's not getting a car, is he? They do say Ireland and New Zealand looks very similar. But she has been here because I think she's got a wine here. We're Graham Norton made wine. Do you know, I actually saw a billboard that said... I'm on my way or something.

Yeah, there was a... Shut up. Do you know, I actually saw a billboard that said... I'm on my way or something. Yeah, there was a... Shut up. Yeah, and then also we got a social media piece of correspondence that she's holding an umbrella. I think it might be in an upcoming episode, which has the Awe design, like a New Zealand artist has designed the umbrella.

Is that like a little bat signal to the tourism board? Well, I don't know She's coming here I think I think she's released A fragrance here But she did a wine too Yeah What does that mean

She released A fragrance For New Zealand Well Yeah That doesn't seem right To me No there was

Just like bespoke Advertising She's fucking with us It's like get ready To get carried away Or New Zealand Are you ready for this It was a Why didn't I see that It's on a bill I saw carried away Or New Zealand Are you ready for this It was a serious

Good parker Why didn't I see that It's on a bill I saw it like two days ago It was on a billboard Where Oh so this is current Maybe she is coming here

Maybe she's got some stuff To promote The vino The smell Where will you take her Mission Bay Yeah I would want to give her

A taste of I think we'd end Okay so We arrive And who is William's for breakfast, down, and we'd walk around the waterfront.

Where for breakfast, sorry? William's Eatery. Okay. You know, it's an exciting brunch, and we'd walk around the waterfront, and we just,

I don't know, just start slow, and then, let me take you to K Road, and so we drive up to Kananga Hape Road, and we walk around there, and she's shopping. Yeah,

vintage, thrifting. She would do well there actually. Vintage, thrifting. She'd smash it. She's like, we do this in New York but it is fun to do it in New Zealand and then probably, I mean, they always end up in P-Hub.

I know that she wouldn't want to do Hobbiton which I like because I always think about when Lizzo's like go, RIP. Yeah, but you know when these stars go to Hobbiton and I'm like,

they went to Matamata as well and that's crazy. Yeah, I know. these stars Go to Hobbiton And I'm like They went to Matamata As well And that's crazy Did they see the paper plus Like what the heck Like they saw the real New Zealand Yeah

And then Yeah I think I'd probably Take it down Dominion Road Or something Yeah I feel like that would be A really fun evening

And we'd just be eating And chatting And it wouldn't be much But I think it would be real I think that's actually as good as Auckland basically gets. Yeah,

maybe like the basement. It takes an improv comedy. The recommendations when you come to Auckland are always to leave Auckland a bit. So it's always like, go to Piha. It's like,

cool, that's close to Auckland or go to Hobbiton. Cool, that's not in Auckland. She loves the bustle of the city though. I mean, that's the thing,

these stars are from like, they are from big cities so when they come to New Zealand, they want to experience like. Take you to Commercial Bay. Show her a mall. Show her a really nice mall. Take her to Ricketts Mall in Christchurch. Take her to Granny Mae's.

Is Granny Mae still there? No. Haven't been back, no? Surely not for decades. They turned to What's Wild for a while. Anyway. Granny Mae's had a real, that's got a real position in my mind. To try and articulate it

For anyone who didn't Grow up in Christchurch At the same time as us It was like It's a store in a mall It's like a novelty store It's not exclusively novelty It's almost a joke shop

It's where you'd buy With some other stuff Yeah Whippy cushions Lots of gift sort of things Like you buy an inflatable chair But my boys You know why you were there

The naughty adults Oh yes Yes indeed Don't skip over that little detail. You were buying mugs with boobs on them. They were mugs with boobs. They were eight guys with boobs. For your dad.

As an 11-year-old? My mum was buying them for me, being like, have a look at those. What do you think of this mug? What do you think about these big tits, Chris? Or you'd buy like a mug that would like You put the hot water in and it would evaporate And then something sexy would be on underneath

Yeah, that's a classic But I did it and it was like, you're gay And I was like, immediately felt some cold water This mug is an oracle Smashed it Imagine if that's how you found out. Or like you'd think you're gay. How did you know you were gay?

Well, it was a mug actually at Granny Mae's. That was one of those heat transparency ones. Can I get us back to the episode about something? Yeah. And I'm skipping forward to the very last bit. Please. Because Carrie and Aiden, so it's been teased at the, it's actually been teased prior to this because what the-

Teased since the trailer. What the email is that you're seeing, Chris, at the start is a reply. Carrie initiated this. She emailed him. She emailed him. So... In the last episode, she wrote it

and then it was just sitting on her desktop for a while. And why did she think... She argued, she discussed. I'll email Aiden. They were talking about exes. People were talking about... She was sad about something. Oh, she went to WidowCon.

She went to a convention for widows. And it was actually turned out fine. But at the end of it, she had this very sort of beautiful reading of her book where she talked about the fact that the grief doesn't go away, but you become a bigger person. That sort of,

it encompasses a smaller part of you as a whole. The book feels real to me, by the way, because I asked you mid-episode, is the book a smash hit and what did we say she's on the grind it's a real part of the season

Carrie's on the grind she's working and I thought not even Carrie can save the book industry and it's just you know like it just feels

that's how immersed I am I guess in the universe of this I just I wouldn't I'm like I bet the book

would be amazing the book is the fourth scale there's a part at the start of episode six that you will love where carrie's getting interviewed to promote the book by an influencer who hasn't read it and doesn't care oh it's very good gen z it's anyway so listen they do gen z well on the show aiden's you don't like that means you don't like gen z that is true that you're like the mug what are you saying

Aiden and Carrie go on a date after a little bit of a muck around with it at neighboring

restaurants they think they've stood each other up then they come together they have an amazing dinner together

you'd think SJP or Carrie would know New York and so they connect we're going back

to Carrie Bradshaw's OG TV series apartment and Aidan, suddenly when he steps out of the cab is overwhelmed with this harmful nostalgia

of their relationship and memories of all the pain that it wrought and all the damage that Carrie has done to him. Because he was going to buy, he bought the apartment

next door. He was going to knock a wall down and they were going to live together. Oh my God. Then he did the floors and then they decided it wasn't going to buy, he bought the apartment next door. He was going to knock a wall down and they were going to like live together. Oh my God. Then he did the floors. Oh my God, that was the floors.

And then they decided it wasn't going to work. So I loved that moment because the Aiden and Zing have been teased like across two episodes now, long drawn out. And then, so they get out and they have this, Aiden calls, he turns the tap off. He's like, I cannot do this. It's too painful. The memories, the damage we've done to each other. I can't revisit this. And now to be in the physical location where all happened it's just too much and i was like whoa and he is wearing a jacket that looks like he is in the american

civil war while delivering this it is i think it looks good it's crazy but the jury was out well he is arty he's got long hair so he pulls it off he's grown his hair out and it's it accentuates his fantastic figure after going from these fuck you

everyone looks good everyone looks good I do think that men get to a certain age and they think I reckon I could do more with my jackets you know they start

putting on wackier and wackier jackets yeah and it's sort of around that age bracket it's like what Carrie does with hats. She was always fucking around with hats.

That's always been, okay. That's good to know because the hats drive me fucking crazy. I actually thought, God, it is great to see someone who is making a statement with a hat but has the confidence to pull it off. Yeah.

She's a powerful woman and she's nuts. A lot of those hats are wearing her. I'm telling you. No, you are wrong, sir. You are wrong. Take that back. You haven't seen the hats yet.

You don't know what I'm talking about. She's always wearing crazy hats. Yeah. But she pulls them off. Anyway. It's not going to happen. There's too much hurt there. It's off.

Yeah, it's beautiful. But then, and I was like, oh my God, we went from storylines about Charlotte accidentally eating weed brownies, like this is Animal House 2023. And like all these other not like, you know, Hot Fowlers and the Drew Barrymore TV show and all these nonsense kind of storylines are just a bit of fun to this. This is real emotional heft. We're dealing with trauma from past relationships.

And then they just turn it off like a light switch where Aiden goes, oh, wait a minute. We can go to a hotel and fuck there. And then it's all on I'm like no You had something You had a sense of loss You had like There were real stakes

It was like That was the first time the show Has truly truly like drawn me in And gone Some shit might not happen for Carrie here And I was like Whoa I think he's like

The chemistry between us Like you cannot deny what we are, but I need to acknowledge the hurt. But wouldn't it be so much more meaningful if it didn't happen? Tim, careful what you wish for. I mean, we've got eight, nine, 10, 11, four episodes left.

This relationship is not going to be straightforward. They aren't skating. It's exciting to see each other. It's nice to have sex. That would have been the moment. Cause it's like Carrie's lost to have sex People would go fucking crazy If they didn't fuck If I hadn't just walked out

Good! You cannot reply to their email Henry Ford once said If I asked the people what they wanted They would tell me a faster horse The viewers of And Just Like That Don't know what they want The riders give them What they need

More Hot fellas No He He replied Because he knew That it was always Like you know

That they are There is something Undeniably Great about the two of them Together They love each other You can tell they love each other God these actors

Can act well together too The scene They are just like Chemistry They're just To each other The whole way through. Then his click,

do you remember that? Yes. Who goes, the last 10 years feel like, and it was like, it echoed. It was amazing. Shit,

that was hitting you right in the guts. That's beautiful. I was in the palm of his, you were in the palm of his hand. I was woodworking, tough woodworking. I was in the nape of her tits.

All right. Nape of her tits. Just, I'm wearing, we've got to, we've got to wind this. I was in the nape of her tits I'm wearing We've got to I was in the crest Of his wacky jacket I was at the tip Of his penis We've got to wind this up So let's share

Some shining lights I can go first If you'd like I'll be very brief It was just seeing Drew Barrymore Because I forgot She's actually an actor

An amazing cameo She was really good And that would have been The day on set as well Like god I forget Drew can act They were all saying that Yeah yeah yeah But she's actually an actor. An amazing cameo. She was really good. And that would have been the day on set as well. Like, God, if I get Drew, can I act? They were all saying that, weren't they? Yeah, but she's an actor. That's her thing. She's great.

She's brilliant, isn't it? And isn't it funny that it's just like, Drew Barrymore existed in the universe at the same time as Sex and the City, yet they would never have been a crossover, yet here we are now. Well, there's a whole Tony Danza thing as well, which you should watch the rest of the season.

It's very wild what they choose to grab from the real world we live in and pull into their orbit. I'd love to see an actor's round table, but it's just the stars who have cameoed on this season event just like that. Imagine if Miranda Hobbs runs for governor of New York, just as a weird multiverse thing. To further confuse us.

My shining light was actually, and I got to shout it out because he got a bit of a hard time in the last episode, but Herbert Wexley, actually it's not, I don't think it's his line, but they're having trouble. Their oldest son is dating someone

who seems to be horny basically. And Lisa Tom Wexix is having a hard time giving up her son or this you know sense of ownership it's a bit of a a running point and at one point uh he comes and he says great news my girlfriend's parents have booked us a hotel for valentine's day and lisa tobix like absolutely not and he's like well what about you stay here you can come you can stay here we're going out for dinner. It's going to be perfect. And then he's like, okay, and leaves. And then Lisa Todd Wexley is like, she says, I wrote it down. Hey, call him back because you forgot to tell him to fucking our bed. Brilliantly delivered.

It's funny that the ones who are having sex in this city really are the kids. Well, I mean, you say that, but what did you say to me when we were driving here? You were reflecting on the first episode. You said, I cannot get this out of my head. What was the vision? It was Miranda and Shay rutting, did I say? Rutting. Inside that spa pool.

I've not heard that verb for a hot minute. I still kind of get flashes of it. It was just... And also, is that also the episode where... Maybe I've watched the beginning of episode two where Miranda is getting getting out of the float tank yeah that was very undefined it was heartbreaking that was amazing stuff she's not only freeing the nipple she is freeing her vagina the kids are horny but they have pointedly like this is a this season this was a less horny episode it's it's it's fuck city yeah city yeah they've really put the sex back in

well sex isn't a taboo anymore so now you've got to go full horn on this show and now Chris and just like that we were up to Chris's shining light my shining light would be there's so much

but I think weirdly it would be Charlotte and I think she's getting a hard time in this reboot I do think like the acting has been pretty sort of melodramatic bordering on pantomime yes however the scene the very first scene where they're sitting down together on those very cushioned seats and she's just driving this

scene along about it's valentine's day and I'm just like I would love to live in Charlotte's head you know it's it and you know it's just like she had a stroke and she's like oh harry i'm having a stroke like she's not having a stroke by the way she just doesn't know she's eating a weed brownie but it's just like nothing really hits her on a level that feels like it actually harms her because she knows she's come out on top like she's so happy she's got everything she wants and like she's going through pain and struggle or whatever but it doesn't seems to really fuck her up and it's the kind of world i want to live in your shining light is the concept of charlotte yeah the invincibility with which she carries herself through life yeah but i just thought it was kind of

weirdly her episode she i mean i've i've called it familiar in the season i think she's having a bit of a renaissance. She's showing social development. She's getting agency back through her work. Charlotte is kind of, she is quietly proving to be a bit of an engine in this season. I think Miranda's sort of... Miranda only just got her power back through the demise of her relationship with Shane.

But even now, she's sort of in that self-loathing breakup space where Charlotte's sort of, almost thought she was having a stroke, but she knows in that moment sheloathing breakup space where Charlotte sort of, you know, almost thought she was having a stroke, but she knows in that moment she's got to get back into that job. She got the clarity to rejoin the art gallery. And she had to have the stroke.

Isn't that funny? Isn't it funny? She actually had to have the weed brownie. I think she was having a stroke to actually realise that she needed to go back to work. Wow. Chris, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on. Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me. And I'm sorry for ruining potentially like four episodes of the show for you and if you haven't already and you live in New Zealand

check out Double Parked Chris's fantastic sitcom that he wrote yeah and show ran

so it's fantastic it's kind of my and just like that it is in a way it's on three now and if you live abroad, well, I would never encourage you to find an illegal way to watch it.

Hell no. We would never want that. Anyhow, thank you so much, Chris. Thanks for having me, boys. This has been the best afternoon of my life. And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time. And just like that, they're at it again and they're having such a gay old time.

And just like that, they're back, got Montgomery and Timothy back. And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time.