The Worst Idea Of All Time - AJLT S02E10 w/ Fern Brady

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

The boys are joined by the fantastic Fern Brady! An And Just Like That tragic whose relationship with the series goes all the way back to the non-canonical (but apparently related) series, Sex and the City. Guy is moved by Aidan's tears, Charlotte stands up for herself and Steve is running a clam and beer shack on Coney Island (from which Guy claims to have bought a beer IRL). Fern and the boys also discuss the more technical side of Che's stand up comedy and Fern shares her theory on why she has a hard time immersing herself in the stories of Nya and Lisa.Intro theme: Brendan LordanOutro theme: SterlingSupport us via our Substack for access to premium content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm going to let you lead the episode, Tim, or at least the intro. Watch this, everyone. Here I go. Welcome to the worst idea of all time, and just like that season, episode 10. Tim's full of beans. Guy Montgomery's down and out with the flu and we have a very special guest she's a world famous comedian who you've seen live at the apollo on eight out of ten cats she's an author who you know from her book that came out this year strong female character and she's also a podcast host on her bbc show wheel of misfortune we've got fern brady hello i'm so happy i've been allowed on to talk about this this series has been great hasn't it it's not that you've been allowed on fern we weren't withholding this opportunity from you

it's a pleasure to have you and i'm totally with you i think this series has been great um for context i watched this episode with a with a fever of 39.1 degrees Celsius, and it's the closest I've come to not being able to enjoy, and just like that, season two, the whole run. You probably missed out on a lot of the amazing dialogue because I just watched it for a second time and realized I'd missed stuff the first time. They played a word association game in this one.

Oh, my God. It was awful. Did you see that? Do you remember that? I'll just remind you. It's that hard. I thought I was going to. Please, please.

So they play a game where Carrie makes everyone say fear, possessiveness, limits, and they're all just looking at each other around the dinner table. That's skipping ahead. Oh, my God. I think we've watched different episodes. Is this the last episode? Okay.

Shit. Fuck. It's the dinner one. It's okay. It's the last supper part two. Okay. But I've seen the one before. Ah.

We've watched part one. Okay. Ah. We've watched Part 1. Okay. Well, you've seen it all. So you've just watched the finale for the second time. And that's going to make for a slightly delicate conversation because I would describe what's contained in that episode as spoilers. We've been building to this the whole time.

Do you want us to jog your memory On what happened What happened in The Last Supper Part 1 I'll try and go down the stuff I remember Off the top of my dome Carrie And Aiden Are happy and together

And they go and visit Steve in Coney Island Who started a hot dogs and oyster shack. Can I just pause to recap? When I was in New York this summer just been, I went to that literal spot. I went to Coney Island and I bought a beer from that exact shop. Oh, that's big. Amazing.

That's the universe pulling you together into the world. That is pretty crazy. Um, we've got, so, okay. Eventually Aiden, um,

gets a call from Kathy, his ex, uh, because Wyatt has kind of flipped out. He rung Aiden. He was like, mom's being a bit, no,

wait. Yeah. They're American. Mom's being a bitch. And, um, so he goes to the farm, uh, away from his mom. He's 14 a bitch. No, wait. Yeah, they're American. Mom's being a bitch. And so he goes to the farm away from his mom. He's 14 years old.

He gets drunk, steals the truck, crashes the truck into a tree, breaks his collarbone and his leg in two places. And spoiler, at the end of the episode, Aidan is crying into the phone saying that he should have been there for his boy. Was that heavy for you guys? That felt heavy to me. No, it was funny. Why was he crying so hard?

I'll let Fern tackle this. Why was he crying so hard? I think because his teenage son had just fucked his body up in a drunk driving accident. I think is why he was crying so hard. His crying was crazy. I didn't like, it was too much. He didn't even cry that much when she cheated on him with Beck,

which is also quite bad. She didn't cry, Aidan's never cried that hard. I just thought it was a bit silly. But you're making me sad. Guy was upset because of this sort of fatherly connection. Okay.

A kid getting in trouble. I was upset by the cry. I didn't have the comparison point of how hard he cried. I mean, I still think it wouldn't be a shock if someone cried harder when their child was very badly injured than when someone they didn't have a child with broke up with them 20 or whatever years ago. Not that that wouldn't be upsetting, but I couldn't get a gauge on how I felt about this episode.

I was kind of coming in and out. But I was like, oh, man, that's sad. And obviously it represents, and you already know what happens here, Fern, but it feels to me like they've brought Aidan back for a run of episodes and to give Carrie a sort of opportunity to fully move on from Big, and they're going to just dismiss him in this next Last Supper episode.

Not dismiss him, I think he's going to dismiss himself. He's saying, I can't live in New York, I've got too much going on here. Yeah, and he was always drawn to the countryside because he had his cabin in the woods with the squirrel in the original series. So it's all ready. It makes sense if Aidan goes back, but that's

not exactly what happens in the last episode, but I suppose I'd better not tell. Yeah, please, please, hold on to your knowledge and hold on to your hats. I appreciate the carefulness. And also, Fern,ern apologies if i talk over you the internet connection's a little bit um crazy yeah it's not always me being an arsehole sometimes it will be but 50 of the time it's the internet no i really i only just realized there's a massive delay c'est la vie we will sail on um the other things that are going on in this episode lisa todd wexley now that now we're

talking heavy this is heavy she gets a extension on her mini documentary into a 10-part series with pbs and then she gets pregnant and then she has a miscarriage and then we don't really see what happens after that it just sort of ends well she was she was already pregnant before she got that series and we also see her calling out herbert who's emerging as the villain of the series for not getting a vasectomy eight years ago when he said he was going to get a vasectomy that is pretty poor form what was your read on that fern so i've been thinking a lot about um her character in general basically it was it was really well-intentioned because they're obviously trying to make up for the sins

of the Sex and the City film where they had one black person in it who was like, my very own handbag. So they're trying to make up for that by having four non-white people with their own storylines. And it sucks because I really don't, I struggle to care about Lisa and the lawyer. What's the lawyer called? Seema.

No, no. I'll get on. What's her date age then? Naya. Yeah. So Seema and Che I'm quite engaged with because they're such unlikable characters that constantly get in their own way,

whereas the other two are just perfectly nice women and I can't really see them ever becoming good friends with the rest of that group um so it just i don't i just it feels like they're in their own tv shows almost wow that is a remarkably articulate way of describing something that i haven't quite been able to put my finger on but it's also it's not to say it's also like why would they be friends you know everyone else who's got all of this this the underlying complexity of not being a perfectly rounded person it makes sense that they gravitate towards these these women as

friends but you do find yourself wondering sometimes why are they hanging out with these women they can do so much better yeah guy what was the experience like for you being in this high temperature fever dream watching the shay storyline in particular for this ep oh because we saw some stand yeah we did i took a shoe with um with the uh the i don't know i didn't like it and i knew i wouldn't but i didn't like it and i also couldn't really watch it the way i like to watch shay stand up which is um feeling like i'm on top of you know like most times i'm watching the show i feel like i'm watching the show but this time i felt like this show was happening to me and i couldn't get my

bearings um i would usually write out shay's whole whole set so i could read what they'd said and um really sort of see what the rhythm of the jokes are. But I didn't take any notes this episode. And honestly, this is a reflection of how poorly I was feeling. I was mostly just empathizing with Miranda. Well, because it was really... That sucks, bro. But it was stand-up As seen from a normal person's Perspective whereas we're

Used to watching stand up From a stand up's perspective Where the stand up's the pro person But my friend Alison was saying that Che Someone on the writing staff Of I'm Just Like That has dated

A comedian and it's gone badly that's definitely what's happened absolutely i also thought i was really taken by um uh shay watching clips of themselves watching an old clip of themselves uh performing stand-up uh when they were a woman yeah and like that stand-up was really bad as well and i sort of was putting it in context i thought would that make sense because you're still resolving your own identity within you but then when you watch shay's stand-up as they are now i'm like you haven't actually developed you know you haven't developed as a comedian

the the material of what you're drawing on is just as bad i think you two are being too harsh i think that stand-up was fine and kind of normal and sort of what i would expect from a stand-up comedian who had just been through a big breakup and was sort of re-entering the stage and having to draw upon their experiences for material it felt it felt like real life to me shay's grown on me a lot i'm they're my favorite character of this episode there i've said it wow what do you think what do you think of that that's crazy what do you what do you okay well let's unpack the whole miranda watching the the set situation then what do you think about mir Miranda's decision to go to that show without telling Shay?

Is Miranda inviting trouble? Well... I want to hear from Fern on this. Something that really surprises me that I've just thought of now, this isn't Miranda's first negative encounter with stand-up within the Sex and the City universe because there was an episode where she goes to watch stand-up within the Sex and the City universe because there was an episode where she goes to watch stand-up with a guy and then the guy gets a phone call.

The stand-up takes his phone off him and it's the man's wife calling. And then the guy says to Miranda, Red, I'll still fuck you. And Miranda leaves the club crying. So it's really strange that she's been drawn back into the world of stand-up. It's not a world that's friendly towards her.

Because they're showing the programme through Miranda's eyes. We don't know if that's the true perception of what the stand-up is. It would have been cool if they'd shown Che's perspective of how their stand-up is. It would have been cool if they'd shown Che's perspective of how their stand-up was going, because I think Miranda just takes it badly. Well, we should have asked this question 10 minutes ago as well, Fem, but what is your previous relationship with this franchise writ large?

And I will say, on this podcast, from Guy and guy my perspective the tv show is not canon um as we know it for sex in the city for us it goes there's two movies and then there's and just like that but i i understand that a tv show did exist so what's your previous connection to these characters i'm just trying to wrap my head around what you said, that the TV show is not canon. So you've not seen the TV show, you've only seen the films. It just doesn't seem relevant. Wow, okay. What's my relationship to the TV show? I watch it every week and it's every time, at the end,

every time she says, and just like that i ordered another cocktail or whatever she says at the end i feel like uh michael patrick king is saying here you go pig have some more pig swell uh are you enjoying this i just feel like an idiot for continuing to watch it and they've drawn me in with this series did you watch the tv show the the original HBO series back in the day when you were growing up no I wasn't allowed to watch it growing up because my family's religious maniacs um so I watched it in my 20s and i now know everything there is to know about it i think that was why i was referencing miranda's previous experience in a stand-up club which you obviously

don't know about and also you you were referencing aydin crying when uh carrie cheated on him yeah so you i mean you it's interesting actually to think about just to because that these characters were never any better than they are right now for us if anything the characters that we're dealing with have improved with time because i'd say probably sex and city 2 was the height of how bad they could be and so we're watching this quite late in life, very incremental improvement towards a baseline of human decency. But you have watched a steady degradation of, I suppose, you know, reasonable people.

Well, the only way that the program is in any way bearable is because you know who the original characters were. And you know them in their purest form where they were all just people trying to work on their careers and have a relationship. And now they're these vile, ultra-rich, elite New York people that they're just like the worst people ever but I still have a connection to who they were in the series so I continue on with it

that's like people who still like Kanye West mmm yeah sort of yeah a wee bit Mmm. Yeah. Sort of. Yeah, we bet. Well, let me ask you this, Fern. A character who's got, in my opinion, a pretty fun arc in this episode,

the part one of this two-part finale, is Charlotte, who has discovered that now that she's got a job, the family falls apart and constantly is bombarding her with phone calls and text messages to ask where the remote is or whatever the fuck. Rock forgets their notebook at school. The parents have got to drop everything to get this notebook back. It's not happening, though, because Charlotte's back at work and selling a painting for $100,000 to Sam Smith

and then does and gets shit-faced with her co-workers at the gallery. This feels, without having seen it, this feels like a kind of an attempt at return to form. This is, as we know him, Mattress Pikelet King, as you know him, Michael Patrick King, saying, here you go, piggies, drink up. Here's a bit of a nostalgia brew for you. I don't know why they put Sam Smith in it

in that fetching blue outfit that was awful um yeah that was uh i also don't really buy that charlotte would be frantic about helping her kids out at school because she'd have loads of staff um there's there's a lot of changes with the characters though that make the whole thing feel uncanny so my second favorite character in this episode is anthony because of what's going on with him and that the the the gay male world has turned without him moving he is now this outdated dinosaur who refused to be versatile and is um only uh a top and uh this is really impeding his relationship with um josepe is that his name uh let's say i've forgotten the name of his smoking hot poet i just couldn't think of him as the roman poet but um's, I wonder if the

actor that plays Antony asked for a better storyline because he's really had, he's such a good actor and he's had to put up with so much shit all through the series then the film with the Liza Minnelli thing and he just has to go with Stanford because they're

both gay and then he runs a bakery with just hot men so he's obviously said listen i want something meaty and political uh we're going to completely flip the script on what you've given me before um yeah because they had that whole thing about old gays versus young gays yeah what's your take on it what are you i just like i think i just feel like that's a that's a very accurate point and then just when i feel like they're letting anthony spread his um his his gay wings and maybe even his ass uh they've reintroduced like a historic you know they're like no, you don't get your own present storyline.

We're just going to tether you back to Stanford, which comes out of absolutely nowhere. It's like, I understand they're trying to honor the actor who played him, but it's honestly been so long. Like they haven't at the start of the first season. It's so random and obscure to reintroduce willie garcia or stanford being like oh and by the way just for everyone who's had this hanging over them for the you know 21 episodes of this show yeah he's a monk in japan now so that's what's going on there yeah that one really annoyed me

because i'm sorry that like um willie died, but the audience doesn't care. So I don't want that to be brought into my... I was really annoyed at that. Like they could have shared that picture amongst themselves on set that day instead of forcing it onto me. I'm making myself sound really cold because i've completely i um it was so weird and the only thing i could think of is it's the people who make the show um a guy died in real life and they really threw him under the bus by making his storyline that he suddenly ran away from his husband yeah yeah um to go to japan to pursue a life doing tiktok for a pop star yeah he was managing someone's tiktok account yeah and so they were like first, that is a crazy thing to do. If an actor dies in real life, don't write the character out as a villain.

It's so unfair. It does kind of line up with the original Stanford in the series, though, because he used to be the manager of a, he managed an underwear model that he went on to date. So they, I know I'm not supposed to reference the series am i but that it kind of lines up what storyline would you have had for stanford to what to incorporate his death yeah i guess you couldn't kill him this was the problem ordinarily you you would you would have him pass away so that you could have this sort of

meta uh grief process for the fandom but they had just killed the character of big so you can't just keep killing dudes on the show i i say in the world of the show they killed the guy that should have been cancelled and they cancelled the guy that should have been oh in my mind i forgot he was cancelled how do you balloon operator in Berlin well the shows I mean didn't they absolutely hit that out of the park like

they launched the series the news broke exactly as it came out and within an episode he was gone and she was sort of grieving the idea of him but like the whole show managed to get on with itself pretty impressively because it doesn't it doesn't really i mean i'm you know what do i know you know how they say i think as in this episode was big a big mistake oh yeah it's because they're it's because they're trying to cancel him like really doubly cancel him anyway sorry you were saying something yeah that but yeah that big was it was big a big mistake was from a a while ago um well i had one maybe maybe one or two more episodes ago

oh i'm really sorry this episode it is really and it's not at all it's really it is setting the table because it's a reminder of just how many characters i've introduced in the series and they're making sure that all of them just get a little bit of a glimpse in so that when they're picked up and inspected again in the last supper part two we aren't caught off guard being like why is naya here all of a sudden or why is this or that um they are in fact setting the table for the last supper but what i like is that throughout this episode except for the very end and this is how i think the show should have run in this i've just announced season three's coming so this is how i hope they continue with season three carrie is a nucleus around which the protons of all these other characters uh circulate but apart from kind

of the the very last bit of the episode where she has some stuff with aiden who's struggling with the fact that he's a dad who needs to be there for his kids and he can't be because he's in this relationship on another part of the country with carrie um carrie's kind of irrelevant and i like this for her it's like i think that's a smart thing to do on the show it's like we had this tv show and two we had a tv show where it went well where she was sort of the structural central pillar and it was following her flawed persona and storyline of of personal growth and trying to make it in the Big Apple. And then we made two movies, which were a huge mistake. And now we've got this opportunity where we sort of like explore the rest of the universe.

That isn't just this self-obsessed person, but we've got other people existing in this kind of pseudo-feminist, sex-positive, cosmopolitan atmosphere. And I was like, fucking roll with that. And then I was kind of gutted when at the end it came back to Carrie. And now I'm very fearful, and Fern, you've got insider knowledge about what happens in the final, final bit of this. And I just fear it's going to be Carrie-centric. And sorry, Chris Parker, I'm still not a fan. Carrie, yeah, it definitely is going to be Carrie-centric

because SJP's too instrumental behind the scenes for anything else to happen. We know, we know Kim Cattrall is going to appear. We know we're going to get a glimpse of Samantha Jones. And I do wonder with the announcement of season three, what's that? Sorry, this delay is a nightmare. Yeah, I have notes

so many notes on the final episode and I'm devastated because I watched the wrong one. Can I say anything about Che's alien girlfriend?

Coming up. Oh, Toby? I don't know their name Bald Slassy yeah yeah well what would you like to say you're gonna see more of them

them two together unfortunately yeah that's not a surprise because that after after shay's set and the the big fight with miranda on the street toby shows up and it's like feel all your feelings and also then shay's like i left my two notebooks at the club ah fuck it i'm not gonna get them it's like that's not what you do nah that's fucked for multiple reasons number one all your jokes are in there number two you're going to prison if anyone finds your notebook with set lists in it that is just unrealistic well this this is just about the

show generally do do che and miranda make sense to you as a couple compared to what happened in the films with steve and miranda does it make sense to you that they ever got together i love that question uh it makes sense that they it makes sense that they would have hooked up it makes sense that they uh you know had it had a flirtation that led to sex it doesn't make sense that they would pursue it as a relationship right what do you think it doesn't make any sense at all because steve fingered her really well throughout this series so it doesn't it's never made any sense to me she's always talking about how amazing he is at sex

so I could understand if it was a relationship where he was always useless and she was just with him for money reasons and she had never had some sort of sexual awakening but it just doesn't line up at all

that's another thing that feels insulting about the show they've basically just given us samfia nixon's life um but i know a lot of people are saying that they have though i don't know anyone's that Oh I thought a lot of people So what people are frustrated I mean I was upset for Steve Yeah On the two years when we were watching the first And second Sex and the City movies

Respectively We really built out A healthy storyline around The little bits of information we had about Steve And extrapolated it to a fulsome Character where he was the mayor of New York and a big fan of Spelling words around the little bits of information we had about Steve and extrapolated it to a fulsome character where he was the mayor of New York and a big fan of spelling words.

And it's quite devastating to see us build up this sort of comic book universe around Steve and then have it all destroyed by Injust like that, where he's pretty... Daughter-y. I don't know, villainous is probably too strong but definitely on the wane as a character would you say guys he just he hasn't been treated fairly it's and it's always been sort of slightly dicey territory as we watch sex in the city and just start advocating the whole time for Steve you know one of the fellas but uh i think in this he he

kind of i i oh you go ahead finn i yeah they did treat steve with just no respect at all in the first series of i'm just like that but i do feel like they've handed him uh a whole world of storylines with this new clam shack that he's opening up by the sea i think a lot of stuff's gonna happen harking back to what you said earlier fern every like they've opened so much up that it feels like they have created an extended universe and everyone's going to get their own show now so we are going going to get Shay's three stand-up specials and a sitcom that they are anchoring. We're going to get a cool, I guess it's another sitcom.

Maybe Steve has to solve crimes in Coney Island while he's also managing the shack. They've got so many balls in the air. And Charlotte, with this kind of like here's the new genre art gallery procedural every week a new celebrity comes in she has to sell a famous painting to them and we get introduced to all these cameos and stuff i think that'd be a lot of fun what did what did you think of sam smith's acting in the in their cameo. It was, I was going to say terrible. That might be a bit harsh.

It was about what it had to be. You know, this season has quite transparently been stuffing itself with stars, gorging itself on people who are probably not quite at the height of their cultural relevancy, but are certainly still in everyone's consciousness. Well, like the captain of the Titanic.

Sam did a fine job of showing up. Because he was in it. I understand they reached out to the captain of the Titanic. The captain of the Titanic? The captain of the Titanic. Because Guy was saying they've had stars that aren't relevant anymore and uh they had the captain of the titanic some art guy in another episode that gets charlotte back into work oh we've all got a different reference point

for him tim recognizes that guy from the tv show alias and to me he's the law professor and legally blonde oh okay sorry to me he will always be there the boat into disaster yeah if memory serves because fern weirdly i actually did a podcast last year called did titanic sink which is a conspiratorial podcast with a very good Australian comedian called Carlo Ritchie, who's obsessed with the Titanic, questioning whether that boat actually ever sunk. And if memory serves from my one piece of research I did for the podcast, which was watching, again, James Cameron's Titanic, I think that guy was the designer.

He was the guy who tried to make it all safe. And I've forgotten his name and Carlo's going to kill me. But then to cut costs, they got rid of them all. Anyway, I've got a very specific question for you, Fern, because there was something that jutted out at me at the start. And it's annoying because in addition to championing Steve, one of the few fellas in the movies and movies and in this and just like that we also championed brady another cis dude because we found a fellow guy and we were like legend he has

almost a cameo um level of exposure in this episode where he rides up on a bike at the start where carrie and aiden go to visit um ste Steve at the shack on Coney Island. And Carrie says, oh, the cherry on top of the sundae. To, like, go, thank God Brady's there. And then the scene cuts. Do you feel like there was more scene there? And, like, it's been edited out? Yeah, they've been really bad in terms of not finishing any of Brady's storylines in this one.

Yeah. I think the Brady and Lily love tryst is going to re-emerge at the Last Supper. I forgot. It doesn't. Oh, no. Spoilers. Sorry.

Sorry. Oh, my God. They're such unskillful storytellers. None of the kids' storylines are tied up in the end. What's your read on Brady, Fern? Huh? What do you think of Brady, Miranda's son? I think he's spoiled.

He's, uh... spoiled, he's... I don't see any of Steve in him. I don't see any of Steve's resilience in him. And I don't see any of the toughness that led Miranda to becoming a partner in her own law firm by whatever age. I think Miranda's done a bad job of raising him because he's very spoiled oh this is a brutal one for the internet sorry can i quickly before we get out of here i just want to ask about some uh well first of all i just wanted to take a moment to say that i really like charlotte's storyline in this episode and i liked seeing charlotte show up pissed and um being like i was a person fuck you fuck you sort your shit out i thought unironically in the world of the show i was like that rocks yeah you you got your

shit going on i i i want to know about carrie's and Carrie's always been, I guess, somewhat morally ambiguous, but do you think if you were Carrie and you've got this last supper coming up and you went to that gig with your old, old great friend Miranda and you've got these limited seats at the table, would you uninvite Shay? Yeah, that's what any normal person would do, but Carrie and Shay inexplicably have this cozy relationship because they did one series of a podcast together that Carrie was only doing to try and stay relevant.

I think at IRL, Carrie would have absolute disdain for comedians because Carrie harbours aspirations of being funny herself, right? A lot of female journalists are frustrated standing up. They wouldn't be friends in their life. It's a very funny way to describe Carrie Bradshaw's character. What? Someone who

has aspirations of being funny. Oh, you agree, Tim? Because you loved sharing this episode. Carrie is a frustrated comedian. She thinks that those columns that she writes are both funny and poignant. That's why they play mischievous music over the top of it. And then she does, and just like that, it's her little flourish. That's her laptop.

Case closed. Another great column. I don't buy that she would ever have liked or maintained any contact with Che. I am inclined to agree. And actually, hearing you talk about that reminds me, and this is something that's been totally abandoned, but was a real focal point.

We spent a lot of time with Carrie wondering and worrying over the publication of her book and how it would perform. We saw her hustling to get shout-outs and newsletters. We saw her dealing with the publicists, going to WidowCon. And I suppose it's true of the character because she's so wealthy, she's insulated from how it performs. But it just felt like they put so much energy into making us care about this book. And then whatever happens, whether it's succeeded or failed,

it's like, nah, it doesn't matter. And then whatever happens, whether it's succeeded or failed, it's like, nah, it doesn't matter. As someone who's had a book out recently, there's no refreshing Amazon reviews. She's not checking her ratings on Goodreads. She's not complaining about having to do bad publicity that she doesn't want to do. So yeah, yeah, she doesn't want to do um so yeah yeah she doesn't mention that

and you and you'd think the book was important to her because it's all about big dying but then was big a big mistake so she kind of just wants to forget about the book i suppose so well to sort of wrap things up here fin i just want to open the floor to you because you're in this unique position which we didn't know that you would be in coming into this where you've seen you've seen everything yeah you've seen the whole damn thing yeah i just would love to hear from you like what do you think of this thing and just like that particularly season two as someone who you know was shielded from the original hbo show in your childhood because of conservative upbringing and then got to like explore it and really get into it in your

20s and then revisiting this universe now like what do you make of this fucking thing um the show this show the only reason this show gets any views is because we now all watch a lot more TV and there isn't appointment viewing TV like the original Sex and the City was something people would put time aside to watch on a Thursday night or whenever it was on whereas this is really every week

that I watch it I reflect on my blatant disrespect for my time on earth and even when I re-watched all of the first series it really made me think uh about how much time i waste um the series though it's totally this one there's not very much shagging in it it's very uh suitable for for children i'd say. I think they got more shagging into the second season than the first. Yeah, I mean, strap yourselves in for Dinner Party Part 2.

I have so much to say about that, and I'll never get to say it. There's a lot of bad sex. Oh. Oh. Tantalising. Yeah, Anthony loses his anal virginity but sort of a devastating situation to be invited onto a podcast and then watch an episode and get all hot and heavy to be able to

talk about it and then have it whipped away from you so i'm very sorry that we were not clear enough where we were up to in the season fern apologies it was the finale and then I realised it was two parts I can't believe we managed to record anything with the delay I feel so mortified at all the bits where I was cutting in and out All that's going to be ironed out in post we're going to

fix it in the edit it's going to really sing once I've had my wicked way with it It's going to sound slick Fern it's such a delight to see you and to hear your remarkable insights. If you ever want to correspond with this in our own time, we can set up an email chain because God knows I'll want to talk to you

once we've finished the season. Also, are you touring at the moment? No, I'm going to start getting our show ready so I can go to melbourne and hopefully new zealand but um yeah next year yeah oh that's absolutely awesome i well in the meanwhile everyone can and should buy fern's book strong Character. It's out right now in all forms that you want to get it. And you were talking about checking your Amazon reviews and seeing it. I've exclusively seen obscenely positive coverage of this book.

You must feel remarkably proud. I haven't read it yet, but everything I've seen about it has been that this is a one-of-a-kind thing. Yeah, definitely not for comedians to read. But one guy didn't like the book because he said he was from my town and uh my town's quite a nice commuter town and it's not all bad what interpret it as like a tourism yeah he was worried about the local economy and incredible incredible to think how much positive coverage the book has had and in your head you're like yeah but there's one guy who is from my town that's how it goes

yeah well hopefully i'll see you when i'm over in melbourne if you're i'll be there 100 that would be fantastic i hopefully will be too and just like that the three of them battled their way through terrible internet to complete the second to last episode for this season and just like that the three of them battled their way through terrible internet to complete the second to last episode for this season and just like that thanks very much Fern, see you soon Bye They're at it again and they're having such a gay old time And just like that, they're back Got Montgomery and Timothy back

And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time