The Worst Idea Of All Time - And Just Like That... Part 2

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

Editorial Note: These episodes were recorded a week ago so, any (poorly timed) comments about Mr Big should be noted within this context.The Frosty Fellaz have gone back for seconds (aka watched the s...econd episode in a row of AJLT) and Tim is coming around to the series. The stories of these gorgeous women in this thriving city begin to unravel and everyone has their own baggage. Mr Big is connected to cryptocurrency and worse. Brady has turned his attention turtles (perhaps of the Teenage Mutant variety?) Miranda has a drinking problem. Carrie has memory issues. Charlotte is struggling with aspects of parenting. THE BOIZ' CHALLENGE IS WATCHING THIS SERIES.MUSIC CREDIT: Intro - People Need Goals / Outro - ampersandschwa Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh my god, they're only doing sex in the city again This truly is the worst idea of all time And we're rolling Guy Montgomery for episode 2 And just like that, we've seen the second episode Yeah, and there's a recurring motif that I've observed in the two episodes we've seen so far, Tim, which is the end of the episode will always be the sentence, and just like that, here is what I learned. Two from two.
Starting point is 00:00:38 The numbers don't lie. Fuck, I didn't even. Oh, man, I need to be paying closer attention. I drifted off toward the end there. Apologies. How could you do that? Yeah, sorry. They've got their nasty little storytelling, their storytellons.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You got texts? Yeah. You're texting at the end of episode two? Look, it doesn't matter. Let's get past this. Episode two. And just like that, Mattress Pikelet Kings return to the fucking world of Sex and the City. Listen.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm in. Yeah? I'm in now. Could have fooled me. No, I'm in now. No, come on now. What did you, what you just, it was just as the as the music was playing, you tuned out. But you watched the whole show. I watched the whole goddamn thing. It was honestly the last like
Starting point is 00:01:23 45 seconds. Ah, yeah, fair seconds. It's easy. But it seems to me that's where they're burying a lot of big stuff. Yeah. Hey, speaking of burying big, we just saw the funeral of John James Preston. Heigl Smith, his name is my name too. Whenever we go out, people always shout There goes John Jacob Jingle
Starting point is 00:01:46 Honest Wasn't that guy Really meant to carry though Yeah Someone says that At the funeral This broad And she represents
Starting point is 00:01:54 She's an audience surrogate She represents Those of us Who have been with Carrie Since Sex and the City 2 And then Sex and the City 1 I've been watching Since 1996
Starting point is 00:02:03 And I've got something to say. Big's toxic. Is Big toxic? I think he's kind of toxic. I'll tell you one thing I know for sure. That motherfucker at least at some point rolled with Jeffrey Epstein. You cannot get to the heights
Starting point is 00:02:22 that the man has attained in the financial world in New York City without having flown, without turning up on those goddamn Lolita Express flight logs once or twice. You said at one point, you said he was on the flight logs with Bill Clinton. Yes, he was on there with Clinton. Definitely. No question in my mind. He has a...
Starting point is 00:02:43 No question in my mind He has a I'm not saying Big Did the Epstein shit Though who knows I guess we'll never know because it's a fictitious Character which I'm marrying to a very Real horrible series of crimes But
Starting point is 00:02:59 What I do know is this man If this is real ass New York City At some point Big ran out of money and ebstein fucking quote unquote helped him out with a loan if you know what i mean it's a pretty uh it's like it's a simple funeral and the turnout's not massive we've never really gotten to know big well, we've only seen two of the movies. Yeah, but a lot of times. That's what I was thinking about when I was watching this.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I was like, you know what? We've spent a lot of time with these characters, but not in the way you might have. We've just spent a lot of time with the same two flicks. Not getting to know Big very well. But I remember like Big's, they're planning a wedding and Big spends no time with
Starting point is 00:03:49 friends or family before the wedding. They used a funeral in episode two of In Just Like That to introduce one of Big's family members. A brother. For what I can see is the first time. And he's like, he's got a real confident, sexy energy. Well cast.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. Great voice. Cock sure, if I could use that term. He calls Big his baby brother. And brief at the podium, which I think is a Preston hallmark. You want to keep your speeches short, sweet, and impactful. And he nailed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:23 The singular message that he delivered carrie i talked to he called him john a yeah i guess his family don't call him big so i talked to john on the phone last week and he said just the happiest he's ever been so carrie thank you for giving him that and then took a goddamn seat like a gentleman yeah it was a class act. Through and through. And, oh, man. I mean, I'm totally moved on from the emotional heft of big dying and right back into finding Carrie Bradshaw. Incredibly challenging to be around. It couldn't have happened to a worse person.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And what is difficult is that she's left with... Do you think this widowing was deserved? No, I would never say that. Would you think it? Would you believe it? These people aren't real, Guy. They're made up. They're made up in the mad mind of Mattress Puglet King.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Why? He's certainly tinkering around with them. I think they originally came from someone named Darren Star. No, Candice something. Candice Bushnell wrote the books. Isn't that the OG? Yeah, that would be. Story?
Starting point is 00:05:36 All that to say, Carrie is grieving hard. Understandable. Who's she got left to lean on? Stanford is away with Anthony. He's very self-absorbed. They're going through a challenging relationship, and, you know, everyone's got got left to lean on Stanford is away with Anthony He's very self-absorbed They're going through a challenging relationship And you know Everyone's got their lives to live
Starting point is 00:05:49 But she's basically leaning on Charlotte and Miranda Miranda It has been Sort of hinted at And now very firmly established In the second episode Has a drinking problem We don't know yet
Starting point is 00:06:01 But Guy picked it real early He was like I mean we picked it really early in the first episode these ladies love a little tipple she was uh on her way to her first um episode one what do we know she's on her way to university for the first day and she goes to a bar at 10 45 a.m she orders a drink the bartender says we open at She says, it's 11 o'clock somewhere. And remains seated while people are wiping benches around her and preparing to open it.
Starting point is 00:06:31 What bar opens at 11 a.m. as well? It's called Smith's. Yeah, that's called Smith's Bar. That's the one. And then anyway, she has a, we see her, she takes her bottle of wine and a handbag to the piano recital. Well, not only that that she bookends her day 11am she smashes a vino going into
Starting point is 00:06:49 Law school Post grad and then she comes out and has another Vino and then we next see her At the fucking recital where she's brought her own Vino Mad respect for that power move Always bring booze To a musical recital
Starting point is 00:07:05 involving children. Yeah. You know who taught me that? Jackie Van Beek. Really? Yeah. Yeah. New Zealand's sweetheart,
Starting point is 00:07:12 Jackie Van Beek. That's a classic. That's a classic. And then, so now we're up to episode two. Yeah. And I'm trying to remember where we first see her drinking,
Starting point is 00:07:21 but at the funeral, she basically goes into the bar and she's like, I'm ready for a drink. And I say, the bar is not open. And she says, well, I'm ready for a drink, and my husband gave you this alcohol, so I'm going to have a wine. And then she's like, actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:35 We don't have time. There's not a lot of wine here. Quickly. And I'm worried that someone's going to want a wine later, so I better have a double malt fucking pronto, because I'm public speaking, and I am bricking myself yeah and so she does you've so you've got and she's also like brady this episode opens one of the strongest opens in the history of the sexton city universe it opens with brady fucking his brains out just absolutely i mean i i hope this isn't misogynist, although I fear it is,
Starting point is 00:08:05 absolutely fucking railing a bird. This is the start of the episode, folks. He is creating such a cacophonous noise that Miranda can barely hear herself think for the rhythmic thudding of her firstborn son absolutely going to town on his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And, Tim, it's important that we note we are inside of Brady's bedroom, which is a first in my experience of spending time with Brady on screen. No, there is not a mouse maze. There's not a rat cage. There's not a rat race in sight. But we do see a large wall insert aquarium yeah home which is home to at least one turtle there's a turtle guy this motherfucker is skulking around with he reminds me of someone one of our friends who had it i don't know if you know who i'm thinking
Starting point is 00:09:02 of but one of our friends has a turtle. And also did well for himself. But I won't get into that. Fuck yeah. Look, we may have got the rat bit wrong, but we certainly didn't miss when we named Brady the King. Because he opens the episode with that, and then what happens to him? Because he's the only character I give a shit about. Then after the funeral, he smokes pot with Carrie's podcast co-host slash boss.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Shay. Shay, as in Guevara. Which Miranda says out loud. Yeah, it's sick. Miranda cannot stop fucking bumbling through life in this episode. She gets a few bones thrown her way at the end. But basically, what I'm rounding back to is Carrie's left with Miranda, who's got all of this stuff going on in her own life. Charlotte, who's just like has been a problem since day one
Starting point is 00:09:53 and continues to capitulate. And like all of, you know, there's no one, there's no, I feel so bad like she's left with fucking Dumb and Dummy, you know, Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dee. You feel bad for Carrie. All she's got left to do, well, I, you know, Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dee. You feel bad for Carrie? All she's got left to do. Well, I do as much as I can. She's a widow on the ropes.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah. With no. And a freak in the bed. With no. Oh, I've forgotten his name. Who was that famous boxing coach? Ah. Who made heaps of money.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Probably a bad guy, but he was like real famous. He was in the Simpsons a bunch. Oh, Don King. Yeah, yeah, Don King. He wasn't a coach. He was like a bad guy, but he's real famous. He's in The Simpsons a bunch. Don King. Yeah, yeah, Don King. He wasn't a coach. He was like a promoter. Okay, true. Coaches are like adding value and promoters are cashing out.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah, take that, promoters, if you're listening. And I know you are. But it's a difficult situation to be in. And Carrie's finding that. She can't turn to Charlotte because Charlotte's too emotional. She keeps making Big's death about her because she insisted that Carrie come to
Starting point is 00:10:51 which is a note I made, by the way, in the first episode. Carrie does not want to go to the recital. They make it very clear. She and Big chose not to have children specifically to avoid this sort of fucking carry on. I guess so. And like it is absolutely unacceptable to use your children to rope them into that shit oh come on now you reckon i think you ask once and if they
Starting point is 00:11:13 say i'm doing this you go you know what that's true actually she really she really put pressure on her to come so charlotte's now got it in her head this comes up about two to four times in the episode that i've never put these pieces together before. She said it out loud, but Charlotte's constantly crying. And she's like, I just fear that you're angry at me because I'm responsible for big's death. Had you stayed home and gone to the beach with big,
Starting point is 00:11:37 like you wanted to, he wouldn't have been on his Peloton going, how fully there with the two dimensional Latina chick and wouldn't have carked it. And I was like, you know what, Charlotte? That actually makes a tremendous amount of sense. Maybe you did kill big. But luckily for her, Carrie ain't me.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And Carrie's like, you're not to blame. But then she's like, I'm to blame. Carrie's like, you're not to blame and can you please stop making this about you because when you make something about you, it makes it harder for it to be about me fair someone's just lost their husband that's you know reasonable oh i think in this instance it is yeah this is the one time carrie's got a valid point yeah a wrong clock and everything but basically yeah she's left scrambling with these friends miranda who has gone from fumbling through her entrance at university
Starting point is 00:12:26 Is at the funeral And we've sort of teased this already in the episode But she goes down to the ground floor And comes across her 17-year-old sex maniac son Who's got a ginger fro now And it looks fucking awesome And he's tall Yeah, he... Is it the same actor?
Starting point is 00:12:47 I want to believe that it is, Guy You wouldn't recast that, would you? Like, out of respect I think it's the same dude Yeah, I think it is too I get the feeling I don't want to look it up Just in case it's not, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:00 We can just believe that it is He is Shrodden as Brady But she goes downstairs At the moment, he is Schrodinger's Brady. But she goes downstairs and Brady, 17-year-old sex lynchpin. I don't know. He's literally the skeleton key that opens up the sort of sexual underbelly that is New York City, this motherfucker here. And he's talking to podcast maven, maverick, renegade, and generally exhausting person to be around.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yes. Fuck me. Can I say this to him? It is tough to watch stand-up comedy represented on screen. Yeah. Yeah. Stand-up sucks, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I know. And stand-up comedians suck. I know. It's like, is it fun to do? Absolutely After you've done it for five years And you've sort of find your feet But like, god damn it
Starting point is 00:13:52 If I didn't engage in the fucking practice of I would not hang out with stand-up comedians They're all awful Well So I think they're accurately depicted on screen here I think There's a little too much. Too self-loathing?
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, there's a little too much venom in that movie. Comedians are fine. They're like anyone. You can't brush all accountants with the same sort of stroke and say, this is how accountants are. But basically. Accountants be driving like this. A diddy.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah, yeah. A diddy, diddy, diddy, diddy. But comedians, they be taking the bus because they can't afford a car. That's how it be. But Shay, podcast maven Shay, is sharing her weed pipe, which she can't stop smoking. I believe it's a sandwich. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Their weed pipe with Brady. Which is a pretty baller move to just find a teenager at a funeral and be like, Oh, you want to hit this? And Miranda straddles a line between like righteous indignation, which is like, you're giving drugs to my son,
Starting point is 00:14:52 but also like she's way too. Oh yeah. But I think this is like all part of her alcoholism shit. It's like that. We need to see her spin out. She threatens, she threatens Shay with physical violence. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:07 And Shea could absolutely fucking wreck her shit. Yeah, yeah. And Shea just shrugs their shoulders and walks away. But it's just, I just feel like, I mean, they've seeded it with the drinking problem, but Miranda's having a hard time. Yeah. Everyone's having a hard time. Yeah. Everyone's having a hard time.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. That's true, man, except Brady. Except Brady. Well, he's butting heads with his mum. He wants to smoke pot. He wants to fuck. Oh, he's 17. He wants to fuck loud.
Starting point is 00:15:34 He can't make the turtles do exactly what he wants them to. Those rascally goddamn hard-shelled misfits. Yeah. You reckon he's got more than one? I reckon he's got a fucking... I reckon... Well, here's what, honestly, it's...
Starting point is 00:15:50 What he's doing might be immoral, but here's what I think. Yeah. I think he's been pretending to have one for a long time. I think the shit he's been... The paces he's been putting these turtles through, he's gone through them.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And he can't buy them from pet shops anymore because he's a marked man. His picture's on the wall. They're like, do not sell the sky turtles. What's he doing to them? He's just trying to enhance their intelligence. And he's making progress, but it's costing him a lot of turtles.
Starting point is 00:16:18 He's buying turtles off the dark web. Yeah, well, where else are you going to get radioactive to chuck in a turtle tank? The reason he got so into fucking is because miranda and steve keep being like son what's with all the turtles he's like i need them to pay attention to something else oh my god i'll start smoking pot and railing the who we once thought was a rat king is actually a goddamn rat sensei aka splinter. Oh, shit. That's what you're describing, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's a fucking, but he's making his own Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And as a New Zealander, I have nothing but admiration and respect for the DIY spirit. Get that kid to Bunnings. Bunnings. For all your hardware needs. And a saucy. And a $1 saucy. They're actually not a dollar, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:17:07 If you're listening abroad, it's a very famous sort of thing in New Zealand and Australia. There's like a hardware store, and it's where you put on your sausage sizzles to raise funds so that the kids' rugby league team can get new jerseys. It's such a good scheme. It's like how the Lotteries Commission funds basically all of the media in New Zealand
Starting point is 00:17:27 through CNZ. I only recently found this out. What is it? So the government funds everything you see on TV in New Zealand because we're just too small for normal market forces to be able to support a proper media environment. So the government's like, Jesus Christ, we cannot just buy nothing but American and British shows. We have to make some of our own.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So they've got this funding issuing body called Creative New Zealand. And they get, I think, half of all of their money from the Lotteries Commission, which gets all of its money from people addicted to gambling. It's fucking vicious, man. So it's kind of like that in a lot of ways. Anyway, back to Sex and the City. Are they not calling this Sex and the City anywhere? Like, is that label on?
Starting point is 00:18:16 It's not, eh? And just like that. This is the Hobson Shore of Sex and the City. This is. That's exactly what it is. And that makes Samantha Vin Diesel. Because he's not in it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah. Which I like. What's beeping? One of the cars next to us. Sorry. For context, by the way, we've been sad. The tides come in. We're in the same spot.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We're still in Westmere. Tides in. But there have been a sort of a roll. We've been enrolling company as cars come and go. And young people – Getting some looks. Have a lot of fun. They listen to some great music. They talk their shit.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And we – what do we do, Tim? Oh, yeah, that's right. Us young gents in our early to mid-30s just sit in the car and lap up. Early to mid-30s, indeed. I've returned to my notes oh god car's coming shut my door someone's on the way okay here are my notes
Starting point is 00:19:11 Anthony and Stanford are brought back together by the death of Big this is in the start of the episode and it's so sad because we're going to lose Stanford and like it just there's you know three dimensional pain to that because of what actually what we know is going to happen in the real world, which is Willie Garson passes away shortly after this is shot. So that made me sad because it's like, Mattress Pikelet is drawing emotionality out of these invented characters that, in my humble opinion, and fucking who the fuck am I, but I still believe this,
Starting point is 00:19:48 he's written very poorly. But then there's an actual real-world tragedy that's about to happen with one of these people. It adds an extra layer of depth or feeling to it because you're watching someone in the show grieve and conceptualize death, knowing full well that the person who is performing that is about to die themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's a slightly disorienting experience. It is. It is. Pretty much this whole episode is about Big's funeral. It's interesting. These are my notes because I can read all of them. They're real short. We open on Brady fucking.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's the first note. Anthony and Stanford are brought back together by the death of Big. Second note. Third note. Charlotte explains how it's her fault and I hadn't thought of it before, but she has a point. To your credit, you've already knocked off three from three of these just in conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Why does Jane Hayes have a first and last name? Well, I didn't want to do it this early, but you've launched right into it. It's time for favorite character
Starting point is 00:20:51 and least favorite character. I've tripped over it. And it's got to be, for me, Jane Hayes. Is it primary mortician or premier mortician? I feel like it was
Starting point is 00:20:59 Jane Hayes. Primary, I think. Primary mortician at one of the funeral homes they're touring. Oh, wait wait it must be premiere like top tier right yeah but i feel like they don't use the word premiere in the states very much i don't know jane hayes primary mortician basically they introduced this sort of perfect
Starting point is 00:21:16 comedy character everyone's talking about jane hayes you gotta meet jane yeah she's the best and she comes in and she's like very off kilter and she's like, Carrie's trying to talk to her and she's like, I'm sorry, but you're just really deadpan. She's like, but I'm sorry, but I just came in and your friend was so bereft. Yes, because Charlotte is beside herself sobbing and she's not even the widow. It's a classic mix up. I just think anyone who goes by full name and job title when they're being introduced is a character.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, exactly. But to what end? Well, often it's because there's an arrogance to them. But there was no arrogance to Jane Hayes, primary mortician. She was on screen for fucking two seconds and she was mentioned a lot by first and last name. Why, I say? Why? She's just an intriguing woman.
Starting point is 00:22:06 But that wasn't the reason they bailed. She's a bit of a jokester. A little bit. Well, she smelled of desperation to me because she got very, like, fucking sketched out when they were leaving. And she was like, you cannot leave. Like, if she doesn't get her, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:22 tenth clip on the frequent, you know, staff card. Frequent dyers. Oh, fuck. I don't know where I'm going with this. You know, she needs to fill up her loyalty card with another customer for the month or she won't get that cool Lexus. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:22:38 She really tries to like block them out of going out of the door, which is a pretty fucked up thing to do to someone who's leaving um your funeral home presumably you know in a state of grief and the real reason why carrie's leaving who even cares but it's because it wouldn't be suitable for big because it's like it's too fucking colorful and nice and fancy and she's like i don't think this is how big would want his his death you know honored i'm paraphrasing now no no i think i think you're on the money but the the jane hayes primary mortician master class i loved her i'd love to see more from her i think she does a lot of great pranks uh a lot of funny hijinks some really good opportunities I mean, a comedy show set in a funeral home makes a lot of sense. Least favorite character? Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm swinging. What is the opposite of slim pickings, everyone? There's always a lot to choose from. And for me today, it would have to be Miranda. I found her to be tough sledding. And even though the show provides a lot of context for why she's tough sledding, whether that be because she's going through a hard time as a parent or she's struggling with alcohol or she's just sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:59 someone who grew up in a different era, trying to navigate the language and the day-to-day life of being a person in 2021. It's funny, right? Because I understand why this is occurring in terms of the presentation of the show. characters are on now the three leading ladies because of course samantha's not on screen is that they um like fry from futurama walked into a cryogen fucking chamber and then just re-emerged in 2021 after the second movie yeah now everything's different and we're there the day they step out and they're like oh my god you can have dreads and be a law professor. Oh my God, trans people exist. For how much I've sort of somewhat enjoyed or warmed to the series and the idea of watching it all,
Starting point is 00:24:53 the single most exhausting thing about it is exactly what you've said, which is there is, and I said to you when we were watching, there's no growth in any of the characters. Like all of the archetypes, the framework in which they're written is all identical. It's all like quip, quip, quip. No one listens to each other. The quips got worse as well, don't you think?
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's weird. Some of it, like one in ten maybe hit. Samantha was always the one with the best fucking lines. Occasionally there's rhythm, but a lot of the time it feels like people, you know, reading, like doing a table read of a play for the first time. Okay, let me lob this at you. So at the service, I think Miranda says this. So she is delivering, Miranda is delivering a speech that Carrie wrote for her.
Starting point is 00:25:35 As we know, Carrie is a professional writer. And she, it's very brief and bad. bad and i think one of the closing lines is um he's left a very big beat camera goes to carry whole can you okay so let me posit this imagine samantha delivering that eulogy changes the whole fucking thing doesn't it you know what I see is like this super slow motion Wink to Carrie as though no one else Can see that it's happening Oh man bring her back I don't care how much money she needs
Starting point is 00:26:17 Get it done folks Or Princess layer her ass in And CGI up a new Samantha It would be fun If Samantha hosted watch alongs Of these or something Or she just streamed these
Starting point is 00:26:32 And then turned all the audio down And scattered freeform over the entire show They did it again folks So one of the stipulations for the funeral service Is that there were to be no flowers Carrie walks in She's gotten to the proper venue that she's going to have at. There's these two fantastic women who are like,
Starting point is 00:26:50 they've got this shit. They're very good and professional. They run funerals very well. And they've honored all of her requests. But she walks in and there is a huge bouquet of white flowers atop the coffin um where john is and carrie walks in with charlotte gets very upset immediately she's like i said no i fuck i should paraphrasing obviously she didn't say fucking she said i said no flowers and then the two women emerge and they're like we know you
Starting point is 00:27:18 said no flowers these arrived and we wanted you to see them so you could make an informed decision on whether you want to keep them or not. And she says, you know what? They actually, I don't know. I don't know. Are they too much? I don't know. Who are they from?
Starting point is 00:27:31 And she is given a card and they are from Samantha. Yeah. On the one hand, kind of a beautiful, you know, little piece for the character. But on the other hand, I'm like, guys, stop dragging Kim Cattrall into this fucking show. She got out. Stop mentioning, get her name out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:27:54 We then see Carrie texting Samantha to say thank you, along with several of the other texts that she told Miranda about sending, which I didn't actually read, but I assume say, are you mad at me? Or something equally fucking infuriating you up yeah by the way something that we clocked quite early in this episode which would be incredible and i'd love to know your thoughts if if this was an arc that emerged over the series but well maybe carrie was just grieving but she wakes up miranda's come over
Starting point is 00:28:22 first thing they've gone to sleep together in the morning carrie's sort of sitting there she hasn't slept and miranda comes in and says uh you know here i'm gonna make us some coffee and we'll sort of start to deal with this and carry sort of in her own world and miranda's really hammering the coffee angle she keeps from like we're gonna have a coffee coffee where's the coffee where's the coffee is i'll get a coffee because carrie keeps going go to university. Yatch. Yeah. And then Miranda eventually somehow wrangles out of Carrie that the coffee's in the freezer. And then the next thing she goes to offer her. She says, do you want one?
Starting point is 00:28:55 And then Carrie says, one what? Yeah. And what did you say? Well, I don't, not everything I say on this is a real, I'm thinking out loud here. I know. And I don't think this is a real thing. You don't think it is? I turned to Guy and I said,
Starting point is 00:29:09 I wonder if she's going to have Alzheimer's now. I don't think she is. I think that is a fucking full-on thing. I know. Wouldn't it be fucking incredible? Nah. It's not the right match for you? I don't think even Mattress Pikelet himself has the hubris
Starting point is 00:29:25 to believe he has the deftness of writing hand to deal with such a subject matter personally. What better vessel to carry that than Carrie Bradshaw? God. A character who's like, you know, every other muttering is so inane that it would honestly be very difficult to discern. Jesus Christ. Who else have we got?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Steve's still here. Not a lot's going on with him. He's deaf. Steve's deaf. And he gave one of the funniest pronunciations of the word mum or mama I've ever heard. Yeah. They're leaving for the funeral,
Starting point is 00:30:03 and Steve encourages Brady to come and give Miranda and him a hug. And Brady's like, I don't feel so good. And then Steve goes, neither do we. Come hug your my mama. Country of origin, please. Use that in a sentence. Boston. That is the country from which it originates.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Steve's voice has changed a bit. It is kind of noticeable. Yeah, it's interesting. He has been playing the actor, David, I can't remember his surname, Eigenberg maybe, has spent the last 10 years making like a sort of procedural show as a firefighter in Chicago, Illinois. And I read an interview where he said he's been putting on this accent.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And you just wonder if maybe he's frayed his cords. Oh, wow. Yeah, maybe. I mean, look, everyone's a little bit different because it has been a hot minute. How long has it been? 13 years. What? Is it? That's longer than I thought. Well, they're all matched because
Starting point is 00:31:08 I guess Brady was 4 or 5 and now he's 17. He was older than that, wasn't he? He was like 6. Well, it's all approximate. We are actually probably some of the most informed timekeepers because we should be.
Starting point is 00:31:24 We spent a lot of time with them establishing the ages informed timekeepers because we should be we spent a lot of time with them establishing the ages of these characters when we last saw them and a lot of them were children note five charlotte is so bad she is sent away by care oh yeah that's we've sort of talked about that um so this is there's a whole fucking storyline in this one about how just charlotte is blowing out so much and so frequently that carrie starts cutting her out of There's a whole fucking storyline in this one About how just Charlotte is Blowing out so much And so frequently that Carrie starts cutting her out of You know
Starting point is 00:31:50 Social hangs The grieving hangs Because yeah Charlotte is proving too emotional And you know Carrie's already living in such an emotionally heightened state Well Tim I mean I've got notes coming out my arsehole Oh mate interject Run me down with your steamroller
Starting point is 00:32:06 Well I will I'll just I'll just give you some of the highlights Oh my final two Brady continues to rule Carrie has a blackberry That's it
Starting point is 00:32:15 Just quickly We didn't actually do this Who was your favourite And least favourite character Mate Gun to my head I'm gonna say fucking
Starting point is 00:32:26 Stanford favorite interesting honestly favorite because he like really tries to make amends
Starting point is 00:32:36 with Anthony because in light all their bickering in light of the death of Meg he's like my god I've been
Starting point is 00:32:43 out of sorts he did feel kind of rude to that new best friend character the show introduced. He was kind of rude at the funeral. Oh, Big's secretary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was fun. No, see, more of that. I actually thought that made perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So Gloria, a woman who as far as I know has not existed in the show before, but I don't know, we didn't see the TV show, is suddenly introduced as a pivotal confidant of Mr. Big. I love all this retconning of just like throwing a character in. Oh yeah, you should definitely care about this one.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah, it's great. Also like a recital, a funeral, you've got a lot of opportunity to throw like interesting new characters. You know, a funeral is a great opportunity for the show to introduce characters
Starting point is 00:33:24 and they do. They introduce Big they introduce susan sharon who's that fucking like maniac she was in the show though i i got the vibe that she was with carrie was like yeah i know well maybe that's the fucking amnesia yeah um there was a bit yeah so what's her name again sharon susan sharon susan sharon turns up. And just rocks up to Carrie and is like, Carrie, I totally forgive you. It's water under the bridge. And just fucking comes at her. So from there, I deduce that she was from season three.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't know. And she was sleeping with, sorry, she wasn't sleeping with Big. She was with Big romantically. That's what the apology felt like. And then Carrie cheated with Big on her. And then carrie like cheated with big you know on her and then she was like now that he's dead and it's been so long it's time for me to forgive carrie so that's what that was getting back to gloria though yeah which gets us back to stanford being my
Starting point is 00:34:18 favorite character this episode stanford goes and takes uh it goes to take a seat they're all labeled with the names. There's a seating arrangement. Someone's in Stanford's seat. It's Gloria. He's like, Gloria, this ain't your seat. This is my seat. And Anthony is like, I'll move.
Starting point is 00:34:36 You can just go one to the left. I'll go at the back. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. You will be with me. Gloria will find her seat, which has been allocated, and we'll do a funeral. And I get it because as he's like, no, no, no, no, no. You will be with me. Gloria will find her seat, which has been allocated. And we'll do a funeral. And I get it. Because as he points out, he's like, I need to sit next to my best friend,
Starting point is 00:34:52 who's just lost her husband, and I need my husband to sit next to me. Yeah. I think the way the show registered it, though, Carrie just spent, like, we haven't seen Carrie and Stanford bonding at all. Like, their bond is still about them bringing their own things to it and taking that away and not actually helping each other. It's their whole friendship. Carrie had just bonded with the secretary.
Starting point is 00:35:11 True. In a very long and sort of scene which suggested she's going to get a lot of action thrown her way as the season goes on. But anyway, that's by the by. Stanford's your favorite, your least favorite, please. Who did I pick last time? Who's off my list? I think you can recycle, but I honestly can't remember.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, me neither. I don't know why you would remember if I can't. I am going to say fucking Miranda. You didn't like Anthony last time. Yeah, true. You're a real Stanford head. I'm a Stan man. Yeah. And you didn't like Miranda last time. Yeah, yeah, true. You're a real Stanford head. I'm a Stan man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Man. And you didn't like Miranda? Yeah. Me, the brother. Yeah. Before we get out of here, I just want to speculate about something you did say. You said you had a truckload of notes. I do.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Put them in. You want to hear all of it? I would love to. Wow, what have we got here? We've got Charlotte murdered big, question mark. I think we've been over that. Just a thought. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Unless, have you got a different angle on this? No. I mean, but maybe. You know, she always wants care to herself. Just saying. Just asking questions. Miranda has the most punishing storyline, which is it is hard being Miranda.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Well, the alcoholism thing is, I think, pretty nifty. Yeah. I mean, I wrote that down before they really hammered that point home. Steve being a lifelong barman, it connects the fact that she's a type A personality who's a control freak that sort of, you know, look, I'm playing armchair psychologist here. I hear you, man.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Seems like a personality type that would lend itself to alcoholism. We might not like her, but she's got a lot on her plate this season. And I'm interested to see what they do with it. Also, I wanted to say you presented the idea of having to learn things from Charlotte York. That wasn't really how I phrased it. It was when Charlotte takes a moment with her two daughters to be like, Biggs died. Here's a speech about death and how it works and functions in life. And I just thought aloud, man, imagine having to learn everything from Charlotte York.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It looks hard. It looks real. That is a difficult way to figure out how the world works, that's for sure. She was explaining to her teenage daughters why people wear black to funerals. That speech actually got better as it went along, so fucking I ate my words, that's for sure. And now you've fucked me up with your note-taking. A touche. Yeah, I gotcha. Fucking I ate my words, that's for sure. And now you've fucked me up with your note-taking. Well. Touché.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah, I gotcha. I mean, look, we have actually, to our credit, we have actually covered it. Miranda blasting another, like, I've basically taken a ream of notes against Miranda. I also, yeah, when Miranda, like, so Miranda's got a drinking problem And then she comes down and blows up at Shay Diaz for giving pot to her
Starting point is 00:38:10 Teenage son In a way that is I think Beyond Starts fine escalates out of control What is reasonable And obviously she's grappling with her own issues And then they go upstairs and actually They make up their very awkward introduction.
Starting point is 00:38:25 They sort of blow up at each other. Yeah, they patch things up at unrealistic pace. Yeah. This Shade Deer's character is like a fixer. They're like magic, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to float through the season and help everyone solve all of their problems.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Give me just a couple of instructions for your funeral service, please. So we've got this on the record. I think we have a standing deal there. Oh, God, we do. I forgot about that. But it's got to be okay with the parents. Yes, but okay, I've got two.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It only applies to one of us. In the instance of my funeral term, I've got two instructions. Go for it. Assuming you are alive. Okay. Yeah. Number one, roast me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Number two, see that your son, Remy Bat, casts an eye over my will so he knows that he will be watching till death do us part. It's so cooked, man. It's real fucked up that you did that. It really is. Like, you've burdened an infant. My son. My baby boy.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I have bonded a father and son closer together. Fuck, man. It's real messed up. It's a real messed up thing to do. I don't know, brother. Alright, well, that feels like enough. What do you want me to do if it's your funeral?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Well, I did forget about the deal, but that is a saloon door that swings both ways, my man. The stipulation is we've got to clear it with the parents. So whoever of us dies first, the other one has to roast us at the funeral if it's okay with the parents.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I mean, presuming the parents are alive at that point, which something has gone wrong if that's the case. They will be. So, look, I don't love it, but I've committed to it, so that's part of it. I don't know, man. The funeral's not for me, is it? It's for my loved ones who are around me to make their peace.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, but you can help, you know, ahead of time, you can help curate a beautiful experience. Yeah. I know I'm not entering into the spirit of the bit that I opened up, but I'm going to make real instructions. I was thinking about it recently. I was like, I need to make a will now that I've got a son. I don't have any fucking things, though.
Starting point is 00:40:48 But more instructions for a service, you know? Yeah. Wow. Anyway. So listen, fuckos, we're going to watch this whole thing. How many episodes are there this season? I would say 10. Feels right right 10 feels right to me although 44 minute episodes there could be eight we'll we'll see um bitten off a lot to get through an eight we'll be here for all of them and uh i'm having
Starting point is 00:41:20 fun i'm more i'm way more invested in the second episode than I was in the first one, so well done Mattress Pikelet. You fucking got me.

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