The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Eighteen - Production Values

Episode Date: October 20, 2018

Guy and Tim are back with beers, pizza and a new lease on the movie they're putting themselves through watching 52 times. After four weeks, the lads have resorted to counting up every line of various characters and replacing the movie's soundtrack with music of their own choosing. A discussion on Apple, IBM, mushrooms, LSD, friendship, Europe and some of the film's deleted scenes are awaiting you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome along to episode 18 of the worst idea of all time, a podcast in which myself Tim Batt and myself Guy Montgomery watch the film Grown Ups 2. We do it every week. We're doing it for a year. We've done it for over four months. 18 weeks of Grown Ups 2, a movie clocking in at 1 hour and 41 minutes and featuring some of Hollywood's heaviest hitters.

We've got your Adam Sandler. We've got Chris Rock. We've got David Spade. We've got David Spade. We've got Steve Buscemi. And not to mention Kevin James. And Tomatoes. And Maya Rudolph.

Selma Hayek. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Colin Quinn. Andy Sandberg. Taron Killam. Patrick Schwarzenegger. William Forte. Is he in it? He's in the fucking oh damn it now ruined it shit have we missed anyone almost definitely okay uh welcome along to the episode it's been

an interesting watch today folks it started out as a grim tale of emptiness and emotional depravity we we thought that arguably one of the bleakest starts to the movie we've had. We thought it was going to be the worst watch ever, but I'll tell you what, we kept drinking beers. Tim ordered some pizzas. We soundtracked the movie indomitably. We'd watch a scene, then choose a song which we thought fit the scene quite nicely.

I took some notes. And we had lollies. And so it's turned into quite a magical experience. It's been lovely. And this is the second to last one before Guy Montgomery goes over to Europe for a brief intermission. Potentially eight weeks. Eight weeks of podcasting across the entire globe, across the equator. We're taking the show international, folks, and we hope that you join us.

But I feel like we've got so much ground to cover this week should we rip into it well i think we already have the first thing that i can recommend if you're going to watch grown-ups too is byo mushrooms no well i'd say these are both good options oh okay well you want to work but i was going to say byo soundtrack yeah bring some tunes that you think are good tunes because this movie is so scarcely soundtracked that you can just run a nice little song under a scene that's going on and it adds a bit of zune.

For example, me and Guy took on the fight scene which is near the end of the movie today. What did you pick? I picked the Doobie Brothers' What a Fool Believes and it went really nicely actually. That sort of slower, sort of... It is slightly cheesy pop. You might know this.

Oh, what a fool believes... It was too high. We'll just put the... Can we... I'll put it in. This is it here. What a fool believes Can't see

Nobody's got a... You can see how that would go with the fight scenes. Pretty cool. Yeah, it sort of juxtaposes the action with the dulcet tones of the Doobie Brothers. And what did you choose? Meanwhile, I picked a slightly more up-tempo and newer number, the theme song from Space Jam. And how does that go?

You have to try and sing it. Everybody get up, it's time to slam down We got the real jam going down Welcome to the Space Jam And how does that go? You have to try and sing it. Everybody get up. It's time to slam now. We got the real jam going down. Welcome to the Space Jam. Space Jam, your chance. Take your chance. At the start, it sounded like you were singing a song by Five. It sounded like Get On Up by Five.

Hey. Get on up. Listen, man. When you're down, baby, take a good look around. It's a big Space Jam. I know it's not much but it's okay we'll try that song next week when the rainy days are flying hold on hold on for a second shut up for a second seriously shut the fuck up here's what here's what space jam sounds like

when you let go everybody get up it's time to slam now. We got the real jam going down. Welcome to the Space Jam. Here's your chance, do your dance at the Space Jam. Alright. Like that. Gotta hold on and... Keep moving, don't stop rocking.

Yeah, anyway, I used to love Five. Another one we did was during the tyre scene, the Simpsons scene, we've talked about it at length, ad nauseum through the podcast. I'd say the whole podcast, I don't quite know the definition, the turn of phrase, ad nauseum.

I know it means when something has been... To the point of being ill. Like you do something... Well, the whole podcast concept is... Yeah, we should have called it ad nauseum. Tim and Guy present ad nauseum. Ah, you live and you learn. We can do it next year when we do it with Grown Ups 3.

Yeah, too true. Anyway, we played Shania Twain, Man I Feel Like a Woman. Let's go, girls. Worked really well for that scene, for that tyre scene. It did. Also, I took notes, as I did last week. I thought it was a really useful sort of thing to do in terms of giving us reference points

or bits that jutted out throughout the viewing. So I'm just going to throw some stuff at you, Tim, and you can tell me how you feel. Please. Today. You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer.

Everybody run! Ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing. The first thing you told me to write down today was hiccups in Higgins. Yeah, never noticed it before.

Can you explain what this is? So David Spade's character's last name is Higgins, and he gets referred to just as Higgins for most of the film. And the person who he had the kid with, that he didn't know about, is only named as Hiccups McGee, and he calls her more often than not Hiccups. So Higgins and Hiccups had a kid together. I just found that interesting. Or maybe lazy script writing.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Yeah, I think that is definitely a product of watching the movie too many times and it would be interesting if they got married though and she she took his surname because no because her name's not hiccups no not legally so it's just because they couldn't be bothered writing like that's the ultimate laziness in script writing hey you can't even bring yourself to name a character and then the next thing after this which you sort of encouraged me to write down which was of interest to me yeah not really related to the movie i'd be interested if you can tell me what prompted it but you just said sort of about 20 to 30 minutes in steve jobs in the early days of apple wouldn't hire anyone

who hadn't tried acid before yeah yeah do you know what brought that on? Yeah, it was because I announced it When the two boys are considering drinking the beers or not Well, they don't even consider drinking it They go, I don't know if I'm ready for beer They're 17 years old If you're not ready for beer, guess what? You're not ready for life, mate Life is going to knock you on your goddamn ass

Well, this comes from a guy Another thing I wrote down during the film Was you said when they said they weren't ready for beer at 17 Tim Batts said, I was drinking beer at 13 yeah that wasn't for the podcast it was more just for you but you can bring it on here

what a cool dude my point being you've got to try new things and my point being that's exemplified by one of the greatest entrepreneurial minds of our time

Steve Jobs what do you think about Steve Jobs no non-acid employees policy? Because surely good people come from both of those walks of life. Completely. It's not a universal rule. But I think as a rule of thumb, it's kind of an interesting one.

In the early days of Apple, he wouldn't hire anyone who hadn't done acid. Considering the success of what Apple would become, it is certainly... He was a visionary. And apparently he used to ask people point blank, and they interpreted it as being like... Because if you got asked at ibm for example which was like the competing company if you're a computer guy if you got asked if you'd ever done drugs before your answer had to be no but if your answer was no apple ironically they wouldn't hire you you know that's funny imagine the imagine the really talented computer programmer who goes to apple

and they go have you tried acid before and he goes no and and they go, have you tried acid before? And he goes, no. And then they go, sorry, you can't work here. And then he goes to IBM and they go, have you tried acid before? And he goes, well, I'm not falling for this one again. I surely have. And then he gets blacklisted from Silicon Valley. God, how many geniuses have we goddamn lost because of the inconsistency in the drug policy?

At IBM and Apple. These are the questions, the tough, hard questions that we pose on a weekly basis here at The Worst Idea of All Time. This is where your mind goes when you've seen an Adam Sandler film 18 times. Hey, quick divergence. We're going to go see Blended at some point, hopefully before you head off to Europe, which is the new Adam Sandler movie with Drew Barrymore. When's its release date here? I think it's out now, isn't it? some point hopefully before you head off to europe which is the new adam sandler release date here i think it's out now isn't it oh hopefully we're gonna the cheap tuesday boys are gonna shout us a trip to an adam sandler movie i don't think they realize the last thing

we want to do is be like yeah they keep saying it's a treat it's not a fucking treat it's a treat for them it's horrid and and i've seen the trailer it looks truly bad i can't remember if i talked about it on the podcast or in person with some people, but I watched Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore being interviewed by Alan DeGeneres on The Alan Show for this movie, Blended. I still haven't seen that until now. It was really bleak. Like, it was, like, everyone who was on Alan DeGeneres' couch. And Alan is a really uplifting show.

I mean, she's a fantastic host. Yeah. She was trying to sort of will some sort of entertainment value out of it and it was just like it was like it was like adam sandler and drew barrymore had been asked to their partner's dinner party and like just before they got the door like oh do i really have to go and they go yes come on we'll just stay for an hour and then we can go home afterwards it'll be fine and so it's like watching them at that dinner party where they're going alan is one of the most fun shows i could imagine being on if you can't even muster the energy but

it's not about the show is what the product that they were promoting no but it is a look like i'm pretty sure i could go on alan and sell dog turds and have fun with it because it's alan you sell this podcast on alan absolutely bro i'd have so much you come with me but we'd have such a good time what if i well if they didn't ask me what if they only wanted you no man i would insist on it i'd say i'm not there unless you bring in guy montgomery and they'd say we're not bringing guy montgomery and i'd say wow you only get one shot at alan i'm there sign me up sorry bro oh it's all right well what would you do in that situation you're going if i said if they said what?

If they said Guy Montgomery We want to talk to you about West Idea of All Time We've only got room for you on the couch Tim can't come He didn't win the bill ET Bullshit, I've seen that couch No, they've packed it with guests There's other guests on

So, here's who we got Robert Downey Jr He's on your couch by the way Selma Hayek's there Which is kind of why they've brought you in So here's who we got. Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. Okay. He's on your couch, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Selma Hayek's there, which is kind of why they've brought you in. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

We've also got Bill Gates is there to talk about the foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. And weirdly, former President Barack Obama is there as well. So it's pretty big. Former president. So this is happening, what? 2017. So they discovered the podcast. Yeah. as well so it's pretty bad former president so this is happening what they've 2017 so they discovered the podcast yeah several like three years after the fact yeah and thought oh this is interesting yeah you got it um well i mean having it set in the future changes the whole

tone of the question because we might not even be i'm imagining that within 52 watches of this movie we will have fallen out yeah fair so i just i'm go and i'd cuss you out on oh really because that's a big late well because not only would you know if we've fallen out yeah it's over some sort of disservice one of us has done yeah but you don't need to cuss me out on international i'm gonna put spit on it dude there's no need for that even now look at how frail our relationship is. A hypothetical appearance on the Ellen Show in 2017 is threatening to drive a stake through our working relationship in June 2014. Yeah, because I didn't bring up shading you on international television.

Yeah, but you also didn't give me the opportunity to bring up the hypothetical that you were in. If I gave that to you, if I posited it to you that we're in 2017 and listen i'm at the very worst i would just go on without you i wouldn't cuss you out in front of everyone well maybe you shouldn't have done the thing that you're inevitably going to do towards the tail end of this podcast yeah but imagine if you got to meet obama right how cool would that be i don't want to talk to him about it. Really? You can think of anything? Oh, man, it must be so relaxing now you're not president. Yeah, that would be a good conversation starter. And he'd pick up that ball and run with it.

He's a really good conversationalist. It's a big part of the job, isn't it, as a politician? Yeah, yeah. Would you rather have, politics aside, would you rather have David Cunliffe or John Key over for dinner? I reckon John Key, to be honest, politics aside. I feel like he's just like, he'd be a better time. Cunliffe's so guarded. I feel like he's so guarded all the time.

Isn't that a success of the image that John Key has projected? Yeah, it completely is. Yeah. Well, or is it? I don't know. I mean, I know that we have a big listenership in Great Britain. Not to mention South Korea. And Turkey.

So I think we should maybe move on. Quick shout out to our listeners in Cyprus. We should move over from local politics. No, hold on. Let's name check all the countries. We're alienating the listeners. Anyway, so it was greatly received last week when I documented all of the lines afforded to Brayden Higgins, son of David Spade's character in the film. He had a grand total of 20.

And at the end of the podcast, I pitched the lines to you, Tim, as you'll recall. Hashtag summertime. Hashtag summertime. So this week, I have instead documented the lines afforded to Keith Fader, son of Adam Sandler. Keithy! Possibly my least favourite. Tim's probably second least favourite character in the film.

Yeah, second to last. Of course, Donna is the least. We all know that. Hey, just a quick shout out to all the countries listening. New Zealand. Woo! The United Kingdom. Woo!

Australia. The United States. Other regions. Yeah! Canada. France. Belgium. The Republic of Korea. Morocco. Who's in Morocco? the United States other regions yeah Canada France Belgium the Republic of Korea

Morocco who's in Morocco I don't know anyone in Morocco look this is something we should do in private sorry in private

so okay let's hear it Keithy's so Keithy so Keithy son of Adam Sandler should I pitch it I mean

why don't we do why don't we do a top three of these lines i don't think we should run through all the lines again okay so 22 in title um okay you can just pick three because you write them down so you'll be more familiar okay across them uh these are the lines i imagine when he combed through the script and highlighted the lines that he he had been given these are the ones which jumped out and said and i'm sorry to railroad you just before you start but 22 is not a lot of lines i thought he had way more than i know well he starts off hot but then there's huge

swaths of the film in which he doesn't appear at all right 22 is only two more than brayden higgins i'm wondering if there's a formula wherein all of these periphery characters only get between 20 and 25 lines this arcs back to the text write-off scenario that I posited early on in the podcast. I reckon maybe if you go over 25 lines, you have to pay them an extra amount of money. I feel like we could be stumbling into one of the greatest conspiracy theories Hollywood's ever seen right now.

Let's hear our top three. Okay, our top three. I was trying to avoid a big idiot trying to hurt me on the bus this morning, but he wouldn't leave me alone. So there he is being sort of standoffish, afraid, and fair enough too. Then here's him being a bit goofy and aggressive towards his older brother, Greg. He's the chicken who asked her out, Dad. Because she's the hardest girl in school.

And Greg is fugly. And then Adam Sandler goes, so what? He's fugly. All the men. And Greg is fugly. And then Adam Sandler goes, so what? He's fugly. All the men in our family are fugly. That doesn't stop us from getting the hot chicks. I mean, look at your mother.

Look at your mother. It doesn't make any sense. Only in like a Hollywood movie. Okay. And the top, top line, drum roll, please.

Um, yeah. One crazy ass one oh there's a little acting tick that keith has and every time he says crazy his arms go wild and he flails them by his ears like he doesn't have any control over his limbs when the word crazy is involved yeah one crazy ass one-ass one. Which is, of course, when at the very start of the movie, the deer is running wild through the house and Becky explains, I just let the door open

in case any animals wanted to come in. But one did. And then that's when... That's right. And for those of you at this point in the podcast are thinking, Tim and Guy, stop ragging on the movie. It's a fine movie.

This isn't my shining light. We'll get to that right afterwards. But this is a triumph of the film. Yeah. At one point when Chris Rock is being a negligent, not only employee to the cable company he works for, but also to his mother-in-law. Yeah.

He has one job on the day that the movie's set, Friday the 21st of June, 2013. Yeah, we paused it, bitches. We paused it on his watch. Which is to install cable At his mother-in-law's house Between the hours of 9 and 4 And he sits outside

And waits till it's 3.59 And doesn't do it Anyway that's beside the point We did pause it This is the point Is that we paused it We paused it on his wristwatch We paused it on his wristwatch

And then we said Tim said Wait a minute Was the 21st of June last year Even a Friday So I checked my calendar And yes it was. Well played, grown-ups, too.

Moreover, though, Tim said, well, do we know that the state holidays in Connecticut time out with that time of year in June? Is that the end of the school term, which is the last day? So I googled Connecticut term holidays, and this year the term holidays have fallen on friday the 20th of june which tells me that last year yeah in 2013 they absolutely the last day of school would have fallen on friday the 21st of june so they fucking nailed it so fucking well played grown-ups yeah like there's a lot of shit that you fucked up in this movie and a lot of lazy script writing but i'll tell you something you saw the convergence of the end of the school term heading into summer into friday and you picked up that ball and you cashed in the ball right to mix a metaphor and i'm proud and i'm proud of you uh today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer

ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder To buy tickets immediately Borderlands, now playing Tim, now it is time for Your Shining Light Well, I'm so glad you asked Remember that scene at the start of the movie Where Becky and Bean Who were Kevin James' kid

And Adam Sandler's kid Are right off on their bicycles. Yeah. Well, if you look behind Adam Sandler in that sequence, the plant that's behind him looks a lot like a weed plant. Like marijuana. Is that really it? Like hemp.

Yep, that's my shining light. It was a toss-up between that and all of the caps that Adam Sandler wears in the movie, but this week I've gone with the hemp plant. You asked me to sort of suggest to you uh becky wearing her jansport backpack yeah i told you to write that down was that just a trigger for the for the hemp no it wasn't i changed it after like i saw the backpack first my original shining light of the movie this week was that um becky's wearing a jansport backpack which is a fucking quality backpack it's a good brand of backpack it's sort of herschel before herserschel came onto the scene.

Exactly. And there's still, what I like about them is Herschel has taken a particular space in the backpack market where they're a little bit more expensive, but obviously high quality and they look the tits. I think they more look the tits than they are high quality. I've got a Herschel backpack. How do they wear?

The seam at the top part is sort of coming apart. After how much use? How much wear? Like a year and a half of reasonable wear. Because, I mean, you're not fucking hiking in it or anything. No. I can't have been subjected to too much. I was just wearing it around.

I was wearing it a lot. I was wearing it like most days. Mm-hmm. But still. I feel like a Jan Sport would hold up to more than a year and a half of punishment. That's what I love about Jan Sport man What you spend 30, 40 bucks on a backpack That thing will last you 3, 4 years

Yeah absolutely My shining light was It was an extra It's a scene where the principal is announcing the end of term And sort of saying Education doesn't run to a set schedule Which is I mean a great message And obviously a take away from the film for any high school students listening

is education or tertiary students doesn't run to a set schedule. I mean, you're constantly learning and evolving as a person. Even right now as you listen to this, this in some way will be informing your personal makeup. And I think what I'm trying to say is that every, and I learned this from a guy named Simon Pound, very intelligent guy. He said every dollar you spend

is a dollar towards the world you want to live in. So as a consumer, you have to make a conscious decision that every time you give someone or some company a dollar, that's you essentially giving them a vote that says this is part of the global economy in which I want to exist where did we start from with this? so my shining light was

there was an extra in the background of this classroom and the principal was saying that it's the start of summer and she was kicking her feet up and down heaps with excitement she was either in character or really excited that they were about to finish shooting for the day

but she was kicking her feet with a reckless abandon and i thought good on you teenager how does this relate to the democratic nature of a free market consumer society oh it doesn't i got slightly sidetracked in the middle of the shining light do you know what i like about that scene is that they've really gone to great efforts to paint the teacher as a real peacenik like there's an american flag that instead of having the stars and the stars and stripes it's got the peace symbol and stuff and there's just a lot of and again the set dresses on this movie amazing 10 out of 10 there's like so much detail that's gone

into that classroom to really just elevate his character with a lot of just little little touches yeah and you know one thing we talked about a lot during this viewing was how well this movie is shot. Like, the DOP in this movie, and I mean this completely genuinely, hats off to you, mate, because everything's framed really well. We know you're listening. We know you've been waiting for the compliment. Tip of the hand to you. Whoever the DOP is of grown-ups too, and I really mean this, you worked on a terrible, terrible film,

but you really brought the noise with what you did okay so well done now it's time for a guessing game is this a line delivered by keith during grown-ups too or is this just a line i've made up here we go here we go i'll close my eyes here we go. Leave me alone. That is from the movie. And it is... It's when he's talking to the bully with the Mariah Carey haircut. Which bit is it? Is it on the bus?

No. Oh, okay. It's when the bully is stabbing the crutch into him and he says it very off mic so you're trying to trick me with that and it's he's almost in the back of the shot during the party scene near the end of the film right or wrong well if he does say it there i might have missed it oh damn it he said that no no i didn't make it up it wasn't the movie it was on the bus on the way to school oh okay yeah no that's uh anyway i it up. It wasn't the movie. It was on the bus on the way to school. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Anyway, I think one is the right number for that game. It doesn't really work. It doesn't really work unless you've seen it 18 times. Now, there's been some talk about Grown Ups 3 recently, and I'd just like to say and reiterate my and Guy's commitment that if it does come out, we'll be watching it once a week for two years. Holy that doesn't get it if that doesn't get it across the line i don't know what will right we we've talked about this we have not we have not talked about it i just sprung it on you um i mean i'd do a year would you but would you do two that's actually a big chunk of life hey

i wouldn't do two because that's like i big chunk of life, eh? I wouldn't do two because that's like I'm marrying myself to you in some weird way and it's not that we're not getting along but pertaining to what came up earlier in the podcast I do forecast I'm sort of falling out

by the end of the experience Now Tim, before we go one last thing I'd like to touch on in between watching the movie and recording the podcast today, we watched deleted scenes. Oh, that's what I forgot to bring up. They're available on YouTube.

Yeah. There's about six minutes of them. And it's hard to tell whether or not it was because it was a variant on something that we'd seen so often or something else, but they cut a lot of the best gags. Fuck yes. Like, I was shocked. And you're right.

It might be just because it's fresh and we've seen the rest of the film 18 times but the stuff they cut was fucking funny it was gold namely one scene involving officer dante and officer shaquille o'neal listen to that tim is just laughing at the memory of it we're not going to tell you about it if you want to see you have to look it up on youtube and see for yourself. I'll give you one clue, though. Shaq screams into a detained child's face. What's his name? Brayden Higgins. Brayden Higgins' face.

Can you dig it? Right into his fucking face. It's so funny. It is. God damn it, it's good. And also, there's a great crack that Maya Rudolph makes, which I think is the best delivered line that I've seen her make in the film, and unfortunately was cut from the film, obviously.

Even Penny could give her husband a boner in one of these. Yeah, which she's referring to a dress. It is actually quite a saucy dress. I mean, I think they cut it because, I'm not saying the film doesn't have a confused tone, but that was what might have pushed it over the edge from a PG to a PG-13. Yeah, look, we've covered a lot of the ground tonight,

and as Jeremy Wells would say in Eating Media Lunch, and that's our show. Thanks so much for joining us on the Worst Idea of All Time, Episode 18. It's been a pleasure having you along. My name's Tim Batt. My name's Guy Montgomery. Remember to like the page on Facebook if you want regular updates on how depressing our weeks are.

Who sounds desperate now? We'll see you guys next week. Remember. Live every moment. Love every day. Because before you know it, your precious time slips away. Live every moment. Today.

You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer. Everybody run! Ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing.