The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Fifteen - Fruit Burst

Episode Date: October 17, 2018

Guy and Tim have watched Grown Ups 2 again. They drunk- beers. They've eaten Shewsburys. They've been thinking about the film and lots about things that aren't the film. During this epsiode, they're eating Fruit Bursts and discussing the theme song from St Elmo's Fire. Great stuff. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing Feel every moment Love every day Cause before you know it Your precious time slips away Welcome to the worst idea of all time episode 15? Is that where we're at? Ah!

15 Quick math We have now watched The movie Grown Ups 2 For a total of 25 hours Oh holy shit My name is Tim Batt My name's Graham Montgomery

I'm trying to finish a fruit burst It's important to treat yourself When you're watching this film Week after week Thanks for joining us again It's wonderful to have you here We apologise for the Irregular release schedule That's happening at the moment.

Let's start the podcast with some shout-outs. Oh, man, I cannot handle hearing you chewing that close to my ear. Hey, I'm Guy Montgomery. Obviously, this is the podcast in which we watch and review grown-ups to once a week. People get it. They get it. No, some people will be tuning in for the first time right now. They'll be going

oh, you hear about these guys? I've watched it 15 times and they'll listen to it backwards. It'll be an interesting experience for them. Anyway. Speaking of going backwards, I want to start off with shoutouts. It's unorthodox, it's unheard of, but I'm doing it. Okay, first shoutout goes to Nick Tuzinski who says, this is like the

who can punch each other in the shoulder longer than the other game I used to play with my brothers. You just keep getting hurt and punching and praying they'd give up first. Brackets. Please give up first. I can't take much more. Now, the way that you phrased that at the end, it makes it sound like you are also watching this movie 52 times, as if you're in competition with us. I hope you're not, Nick. I really hope you're not. Now, beneath that, we've got Regan McKinlay, who's posted a photo.

What's in the photo, Tim? It's what looks like a mugshot, almost, of our man Higgins, David Spade, wearing a hat that says Kmart on it. And he looks terrible. He looks old. He's on Norm Macdonald Live. Norm Macdonald, of course,donald of course a very he's actually one of my favorite comedians his special me doing stand-up sorry my favorite special i've seen in the last five years norm mcdonald he does a live video podcast is he the one who did uh

that joke on conan that you love the moth joke yeah yeah that is the one it's been doing the rounds on the internet it's actually and he's called the best joke ever ever really is it got a little second life um he also actually funnily enough, he was an old Adam Sandler alumni, Norm Macdonald. You know Billy Madison. He was the tall, thin friend. The tall, thin best friend. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I haven't seen Billy Madison in quite some time.

Go on, go on, mate. Rekindle your, I don't know your what was once a love for Sandler. Hey, how you doing? How you doing, guy? Yeah, mate, I'm good. I'm good. You big man? I'm a big man.

I'm a big man. I'm just surveying what we've been through tonight so far. A packet of shrewsberries. Just hanging in the fruit bursts. And we've both had two and a half Steinlager Pures. And a little something else. And a little something else. On top.

Just on a cherry. We've also had a cherry. So here we are. I mean, I'm going to be honest, Tim. The movie did nothing to me tonight. I was numb. I feel like I was going through the motions of a relationship. I felt like I was a jaded husband who's come home and my wife is there.

And we're both just looking at each other and we're thinking, why do we do this? We've both got so much to give. We're bigger than this. I mean, I don't like the person I am when I'm with you. I know you don't like the person you are when you're with me. And I mean, are you talking to me now or are you still on the metaphor? I'm on a metaphor. or are you still on the metaphor?

I'm on the metaphor. And we can get and give so much more to society if we could just get outside the construct and the social pressure of us trying to make this thing work when in reality this ship has sailed. I feel like we're every week stepping onto a train that's on a circular track. It doesn't take us anywhere but a mental disorder compels us to get on not dissimilar from like a like a obsessive compulsive disorder means it's

it's friday that means at five o'clock i've got to get on the a train and it goes around the loop and all we've done is spent money and time to fulfill a sick in the head compulsion. We're sick in the head. I understand the thinking behind that, Tim, but I guess what I'm wondering is, I mean, how do you feel after watching the movie for the 15th time this week? It is, I mean, should we tell the people? It's 10.09pm.

We had to do a late viewing. I drove back from New Plymouth to watch this movie tonight. How long is that drive, Guy? Share with the class. Four and a half hours it was five with traffic. Fucking hell man It's a long way to go to watch a movie What are we doing? What are we doing?

We need to take a step back. What are we doing? Before we address that you've got to answer my question 15th viewing what were you thinking when you watched the movie today? I was contemplative and I tuned out a couple times and I kept thinking about the theme song from St Elmo's Fire and how awesome it is how does that go um oh i was humming it to you before to try and remind you but now you didn't do anything to me when you did i'll pull it up

on my phone cover pad okay i mean we don't really need to knock that badly today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing so what you're saying tim is much like me you you you were you weren't you were zoned out you weren't really in the world of i mean I even felt surprisingly somehow this movie actually flew by tonight like I felt like one second we're at the start the next second we're at the party and I mean it was a it was a treat it was a treat to watch the movie this is probably of the 15 times this has been the fastest

viewing for me well and it's also been there was a reason for that what's that you did you pegged out no I didn't briefly I looked over your eyes were closed and I had to hit you

that was how I was watching it I don't know about you man what do you mean I was watching it I just had my eyes closed

because I know it's like I used to do this when I watched wait let me finish I'm having a thought sorry bro I'm trying to bring up the song so I used to do this when I watched... Wait, let me finish. I'm having a thought here. Sorry, bro, I'm trying to bring up the song. So I used to watch Extras so much,

the Ricky Gervais series Extras so much. I'll try and get to the chorus. I don't think this is the original Dirty Did It. I don't know this song. I like where it goes. It's so good. You don't know that song? I don't know that song.

I'm going to leave it on in the background. I was... I was having a thought. Yeah, sorry. What were you talking about? I don't know. It's gone. I'm going to eat a fruit burst in protest of the way you've been treating me on this podcast. Now, an interesting thing's happening this weekend, Guy.

Growing up to a movie which we have single-handedly popularised for the internet is being picked up by Sky Movies, and they're chucking it on a half dozen times over Queen's birthday weekend. Now, this is exciting. Tim proposed we do a live tweet viewing. Sadly, I'm going to be at Lake Rotoweti all weekend, escaping the trappings of city life. But, Tim, you've bravely nominated yourself.

Well, I put it out there for both of us to do it, and then you weren't going to be here, so I don't even... You posited that you might be able to... Yeah, I posited the possibility of doing it at, like, a Twitter party, so we can all watch it and have a combined experience and share it online. I like the idea. Me too.

I just, I need to check my valability because I've, you know, I've got a couple of things. I've got shit going on too, right? What have you got on? You're not the only guy who's got stuff going on. What have you got on this weekend?

Some other people have things going on too. I've got tons of stuff, bro. You don't even know. You don't even know about it. Um... This is a shit show. This whole podcast is going so poorly. Do you want me to turn the song off?

You can't deny that it's a great song. I'll take out the fruit burst. You stop the song. Let's start at the beginning. Okay. Welcome along to the worst idea of all time with me, Guy Montgomery. Me too. Turn that.

This was our 15th viewing, and once again, we didn't bring in a guest. We didn't have any exciting way of watching the movie. It's just two guys in a room on a Thursday night just trying to get through 101 minutes of an Adam Sandler comedy vehicle. that we've been getting a few posts recently because of his frankness and his willingness to admit that some of the reasons he undergoes making these movies are not so genuine. Yeah. He was kind of... Was it on Conan when he was asked?

Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel, he was asked. I don't know what he was asked, but it came out that... He said, when you decide to make a film, do you say, I want to make this film somewhere

where I can be on vacation? And Aaron Sandler, just straight out of nowhere, said yes. And he said, I put the fruitless back on. Oh, you did, didn't you? You did that completely absentmindedly,

didn't you? Uh-huh. I appreciate you not chewing into the microphone. I'm sure our listeners do as well Who's listening That's something that occurred to me today Who's listening to this man What are you doing

I'm talking to you the listener What are you up to bro You need to finish that fruit burst So Adam Sandler has admitted that At least for the last 10 years or so He's really been phoning it in And he quoted 50 first dates With Drew Barrymore which came out a good And I was admitted that at least for the last 10 years or so, he's really been phoning it in. And he quoted 50 First Dates with Drew Barrymore,

which came out a good, what, like eight years ago or so? Yeah. They pitched that the movie would be made in winter. And he said, why don't we do that in Hawaii? And I said, okay. And he said, this is too easy. I just finished. Because, Tim, you stumbled into something when I said,

I just finished. I was referring to the fruit burst. Oh, right. Even I was wondering what you were talking about. No, into that sentence. Now, you were saying in the middle of the movie that you felt bad. I do. You had pangs of guilt for... I feel bad about what we're doing.

For ripping down something that someone's art, essentially. Yeah. For ripping it down week after week. A lot of people say. Could you please expand on this theory for me because i had a rebuttal i think i understood the germ okay or the basis of your point but i'd like you to say it out loud for the listeners then i'd like to have a conversation around it it's the same reason i hate all reviewers because it's like who are you man you didn't make anything you're just critiquing stuff that other people make and i know we need reviewers to sift the wheat from the chaff to mix a verb and a metaphor that doesn't fit with that verb.

But I don't enjoy... This is why I did the Lou review. Many moons ago, a very fraction of our audience will remember that me and Guy presented a TV show on a channel that doesn't exist anymore, and I used to come in as a regular guest and i would review toilets and it started as a little bit of a mini dig at people who review things because i don't appreciate that they've made a career out of taking people's art down and i feel like we've fallen into that hole somewhat by just just being mean-spirited about something that a

lot of people put a lot of time and energy into i'm not into that that's a negative thing i think using the word art in reference to this film is quite lofty you're doing it right now i'm doing it in response to you calling it art and saying ripping down someone's art when we haven't made any art this isn't art every single person who was in this movie the gaffer the best boy the bloody camera assist all the soundies the location scouts everyone was cashing a check no one was going to work every day really investing in the product saying i'm going to make this the best grown-ups toy can everyone we don't know this is the equivalent this is the equivalent of an office job as far as movies go so everyone's just showing up to the office they're going god i can't wait till i get on to my family i'm just going to get through

the day i'm just going to do enough. This is the equivalent of the way that I'm sure you used to, and I certainly used to write university essays. I figured out exactly how much was required of me to get through without them asking any questions. That is how every single member of staff worked on this movie. This is not a piece of art. You don't need to feel bad for making fun of these people

who have been mailing in their job for a pretty decent paycheck. We know that that is true of the stars. We can see them. We can see them not working. But I don't know that that's true for everyone else in there. It's lit really well. It's a really well lit film. I can see everything that happens in it.

Great lighting. Well done, lighter. We've said that before, though. We've said we've given props to all the production values. We've given props to the art department. Absolutely fantastic art direction, specifically in Chris Rock and Maya Rudolph's house. That is a well-dressed set.

I mean, in terms of continuity, we're certainly learning more as we go along, but they've done a pretty good job for what is a very confusing and all-over-the-place movie. Maybe there's some extras who put their heart and soul into the role. I don't think you need to know the extras no they're terrible you just what about they disrespected our friend earth maybe he's pouring all of himself into that role maybe and he'll be a career for him maybe speaking roles in movies isn't the career for him because he's

got a really weird voice hey speaking of boy howdy and i'm going to quickly negate from the point i've just been making for the last couple of minutes but how shit is arnie's son in every second that he's on screen patrick schwarzenegger yeah he's a real dud he should not be allowed in front of the camera because he can't do it he can't do it. He can't do it. It would be a weird life though, wouldn't it, being Arnold Schwarzenegger's son? Especially the one out of the illegitimate.

Either way though, say you're in this legitimate relationship. You grow up under the impression that your dad's a stand-up guy. He's a former bodybuilder, former movie star. Do you not think he is a stand-up guy though? He's a Republican governor of California. No, he did the dirty, man.

Oh yeah, but people make mistakes, man like he made a sustained mistake which he hid well he did it several times over did he yeah is there a few oh you mean like and like you grow up though so your dad is idolized sure he is worshipped yeah he's literally done so much he's he's reached the pinnacle of three different careers arnie's an amazing man you know that you have an inheritance which means you don't need to worry about what you want to do i mean obviously you should because otherwise your life's going to be aimless it's going to be terrifying but i mean where does he go where does patrick schwarzenegger go what do you find your career options you find your niche you went on look at emilio Estevez what's he doing? well he decided to do acting

but he did not take the Sheen name because he wanted to forge his own path even though it was the same path his father took that's probably a bad example

I'll try and think of another one I'm just wondering what do you think Patrick Schwarzenegger he's finishing high school he's finishing high school last day of high school

his career his guidance council system hey Patrick I don't know anything about that guy maybe he's a good painter He's finishing high school. He's finishing high school. Last day of high school. His career is guidance counsellor system. Hey, Patrick. I don't know anything about the guy. Maybe he's a good painter. You be Patrick. Okay. Hey, Patrick.

Hey, guidance counsellor. Last day of school. It sure is. Your dad must be so proud. Is he going to be at graduation? He's a little busy. He's trying to sort out the waste management situation in California. Okay. Good on him.

Hey, I'm sorry we never got to meet during your time at the school. It was very unprofessional of me, but I have been wondering, where do you see yourself in five years? Well, I have a passion for painting, so I think I'm going to be an artist. You're going to be an artist? I sure am. Wow. And I might not be good when i start but i really

enjoy it and i'm passionate about it so i'm gonna get better at it and keep doing it because i'm all about forging my own path how are you how are you gonna survive you know times can be pretty lean if you're an artist especially a freelance one learning the craft well mr Kuczynski, here's the great thing. I come from a very, very wealthy family. You may have heard of us, the Schwarzeneggers. Just moments ago, you were obsessed with forging your own path. Yeah, that doesn't mean it can't be with a safety net of cash and inheritance lining the way. Do you think you'll ever try anything apart from art i don't know what this role play is meant to

prove on either side to be honest with you where are we where are we going with this i'm just trying to have some fun oh fair enough i was trying to highlight that it was a tough time for patrick schwarzenegger but we don't have enough information about the man patty patty as they call him at the plate patty uh don't mess with patty do you know who his dad is honey bro shit what this is a weird one this is a weird podcast what was your shining light you're a weird podcast and my shining light i wrote down because i knew i'd forget it and here oh no i remembered it i remember writing it down it's when chris rock pulls out of the van and he's yelling at his son andre uh and he's who's about to out of the van and he's yelling at his son, Andre, who's about to take his driving test.

And he's like, parallel park, look both ways, drive safely. Don't do what I just did. He pulls out into incoming traffic. Don't do what I just did. And there's a really chaotic way that it's shot and edited. And it's like they just really nailed that moment. It's real good. It's a real good moment.

You know it. You like it, eh? I don't... It's a good sequence. I don't have an opinion on it. What's your shining light? We've probably used it before. Officer Dante, somebody call the police.

We're already here. I think... Can we recycle shining lights? Well, I mean I'm not going to listen back to all the podcasts and see what I've used

so I'm just going to go with it neither am I paint the scene come on people don't watch the movie we're the ones

who watch the movie well there's a real changing in the tide right now because I've been getting a lot of my phone's been blowing up with

people saying it's on sky people keep threatening to watch it I'm going to watch it like Jermaine Ross.

Yeah, well, he's going to watch it. He was like, I'm watching it this Sunday and I'm going to enjoy it. Like it was a threat. Here's the thing, I don't have Sky. So it's, I don't... You don't have a TV. That's not important.

What I'm saying is these people who do have Sky and I mean, naturally, if it's the weekend you're not doing anything you can't be bothered leaving the house to meet up with someone that is the sort of movie that you would just stumble into on a sunday and suddenly you know an hour and a half later now i want to talk about this for a second because some people may watch grown-ups too and go tim and guy fuck you guys the movie's fine and i respect you for saying that because if you do watch it

once it's like yeah it's but that's the very purpose why we picked the movie because it's not bad enough to be fun and it's not good enough to be enjoyed so it's like the perfect middle ground of absolute mediocrity and just general laziness and filmmaking like if we were watching the room 52 times this podcast wouldn't work because that would be a fun it would be so shit that would be a fun movie to see a bunch of times and i've seen that movie personally like a dozen ironically on the back of your theory tim the reason that the movie isn't bad enough to be enjoyable is because of the high quality work being put in by the various different people behind the scenes on the production side if the production values of this film were shitter it'd be way more enjoyable

because you'd be like oh my god there's a boom and shot there um there's a continuity era here and there are a few but none of them are huge and there aren't as many as you know some other hollywood films some other hollywood flicks i was gonna say blockbusters but i don't think this broke any blocks from memory memory, memento, not a single continuity error. Fuck off. Really? With all that crazy

backwards narration? That's what makes it so impressive. Wowee. Oh, you've done your shining light. Oh,

we do a top three. What should we make it about this week? The look of hope and like this earnestness in your eyes is too much to bear. I mean, if we haven't even thought about what it's going to be during the movie, is it really worth doing? Yeah. Top three reaction shots.

I can't remember anything in the movie. Top three reaction shots. I'll go third and first. You go second. Okay. In the ballet scene, when they're all sitting down and Adam Sandler and Kevin James are transfixed by the hot ballet teacher and Salma Hayek's face reacting to Adam Sandler's face, she nails the scowl.

Disappointed, disapproving, and yet can't go too hard out because she's there to support her daughter okay good work three number two number two uh reaction shots of oh for fuck's sake man i got reaction shot uh I got... Reaction shot. It's not really a reaction shot. It's just a really... It's a big reaction to try and mask the fact that there's no logical cut or edit point into the next scene. But after the yoga instructor, when Maya Rudolph and Chris Rock's two-year-old son... What's his name? The kid. The doodoo grenade kid i don't know does he get a name he gets a name anyway he pulls a jockstrap out of a bag and it's a lady's jockstrap and they're like

selma hayek and maya rudolph are obsessed with bullying this woman about her gender identity and uh and the lady goes that's not a jockstrap that's a g-string and then mayer Rudolph does this huge tremendous fake laugh like really blowing it out and it's sort of it's a powerful reaction and I think in that reaction shot encapsulates a lot of the problems with the movie it's quite funny putting that at number two yes I am because I don't give a fuck about your top three it's quite funny watching this movie this many times. It's kind of like, you know when you're in English and you're reading some reasonably modern novel or a recent movie

and your English teacher is making you read all the stuff into it, which just isn't there? Yeah, totally. It's just a rubbish movie that some people made to make some money and that's it. Lord of the Flies wasn't written with that many layers in mind. It just wasn't. Exactly, but this is what we're doing now.

We're in the English classroom and we're watching grown-ups too no one made no one's no one from the movies making us do this no one's making us watch it this many times number one david spade's facials when kevin james burps nuts at him in the garage and it accidentally is way smellier than he thought it would be and he says the word bonus and david spade's reaction is warm organic and hilarious i thought you're that's a good one because i thought your number one would have been um there's that cutaway of a character who's not introduced or seen again that's a reaction shot isn't it he was my shining light last week so i feel like that would be a double up. But you're very right, and you're very astute, and you're a great listener, Guy. Thank you. Well, Tim, have you got anything you want to say?

I mean, how's your life going? Are you happy? I want to stop watching the movie now. No. Well, we've got... I know we can't, but I'm saying, you asked me, how am I doing? This is how I'm doing, Guy. I'd like to quite never see the movie again.

We're coming to an interesting time soon, Tim. So on the 24th of June, i'll be i've got a flight to london i'll be out of the country for six to seven weeks now are you going for that long yes fuck fuck now during this time we're going to have to still do the podcast so what's going to have to happen is we're going to watch it we're going to have to sync our watch together on Skype and record the podcast through that. Now, that's pretty bad for you. But for me, a man who's never been that far away from New Zealand before. Oh, this is really funny for you. I'm going to be spending three hours once a week in City X,

in some fucking room. Some amazing city. In the European summertime. Yeah, you will. Strapped to my computer. And probably at a weird a weird time yes because you'll be working around me okay mister i'd say i'd like to think there'll be some form of compromise absolutely not you're the one who bailed on the country so i get to call the shots on anyway i mean exciting interesting times i didn't realize it was i think you're going for like three weeks. This is a game changer, folks.

Mate, you buy a ticket to London. You don't just come back after three weeks. It's so fucking expensive to get over there. You've got to really... How much are you paying, man? What's the flights? I've only bought a flight there. I haven't bought my flight back yet.

But $1,110. Oh, that's a bit of a deal, man. If I get that same flight back, that's only like a $2,200 return flight to London. But you won't get that amount back, Dave. Mentally, I was looking at it paying up to three grand, you know. Yeah, yeah. That's just how much you have. So you've saved yourself $800 if you get that price back.

But is it more expensive to return than it is to go there? I don't know. I feel like it is. I mean, I don't know how cheap it is to move around Europe, but I think you can get a flight from... I want to go to Stockholm to see Europe, but I think you can get a flight from... I want to go to Stockholm to see a friend. I think you can get a flight from London to Stockholm for like 40, 50 New Zealand dollars.

Speaking of Stockholm, and we'll wrap up on this note, I think. Do you feel like at some point, maybe in the 30s or the 40s of our watches, that we're going to grow to love this film in a Stockholmholm syndrome style like psychological breakdown i don't know that exactly will happen but i think there is still so much time and space left for our relationship with this movie to change and grow

and um i mean i i expect by the end of this movie this is this is we're in an abusive relationship with a with the film hey here's a question how are you feeling about me because not only do you have to watch this film another

37 times but you have to hang out with me that many as well that's fine there's solidarity in what we're doing my friend

this can be the final thing I saw after I drove back from Newfoundland I stopped at my friend's work on the way home and he said to me he said what are you doing tonight i said i gotta do the podcast

and he said oh you must be looking forward to that and i said no he said well obviously not the movie but you know you must enjoy you must enjoy doing the podcast. And I sort of had to think about it, and then I thought... No. I don't think either of us enjoy doing the podcast. Not anymore. Used to. How long ago? Maybe three.

Maybe three ago. Four ago. I mean, there's something in it I enjoy. Wellington was fun, but that's because it was quite different. We had guests a few weeks. I mean, I like you, Tim. I like you. Thanks, Guy.

I like you too. And I think I speak on behalf of both of us when I say we like you for listening. Because there's no sense in listening. There's no sense in what we're doing and there's no sense in what you're doing. But we're all here. We're all here doing it together. So like us on the Facebook page. We're studyer of all time.

Get in touch on Twitter. I'm Tim underscore bat. I'm also Tim underscore bat. You're at Guy Mont, I think. Is it one word or is there a, you've got an underscore, eh? Guy underscore Mont? Yeah, he does. And listen, we'll catch you next week.

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