The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Forty Six - ThompsonWood

Episode Date: November 20, 2018

Guy and Tim are joined by their friends and NZ comedy people Dai Henwood and Josh Thompson for an extended guest episode. In the Grown Ups 2 arena this week, the boys hit some familiar terrain such as Kmart, product placement, racial stereotypes and a perceived lack of plot. Plus some curveballs get thrown, including why does Principal Tardio makes no moves to avoid getting paint dropped on him and quick drying deer piss. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to the worst idea of all time, episode 46 with myself, Tim Batt. And me, Guy Montgomery. And this week we're joined by not one, but two guests. We've got Dai Hemwood. Thank you very much. G'day. And we've also got Josh Thompson. Hey, guys. Two of the funniest people in New Zealand for my money. After me and Guy.

Yeah, a close third and fourth. This is going to be so hard to coordinate, us both talking into one microphone, Guy. So let's just smash our heads fourth. This is going to be so hard to coordinate, us both talking into one microphone guy, so let's just smash our heads together. This is weird. I feel like if you've got nits, I've got nits now. Yeah, but having watched this movie with you, you guys are on the same page now.

Very much so. You're one mind. You're one mind and four eyes. If he's got nits, I want him. And if I've got nits, he should get him, so we remain on the same level. It's about teamwork. It's about cooperation, communication. Josh Thompson, can we start with you?

What did you think of the movie, bruh? I didn't like it, but it's an awful... I'll tell you what, I liked it. But it's an awful movie. It's really weird. At the end, I was just going, why? What's going on? It's just people doing things and i don't

know what's going on okay that's not the best explanation no that's kind of a good example because you're heading on to listen i've got a very important priority here and that's that i don't want to color your opinion of the movie by the one that i've built up over watching it for 46 times because it's an unreasonable thing to do a movie you're both to be commended for watching this 46 times I appreciate you saying that I can't possibly agree but you could have spent that time doing something else but

you mentioned before it's a Tiger Woods who says you have to do 10,000 hours of something that's the guy who wrote Blink Malcolm Gladwell oh yeah he said 10 they're visually very different people but they're the same That's the guy who wrote Blink. Yeah, Malcolm Gladwell. Oh yeah, he said tent. They're visually very different people, but they have the same philosophy.

So think, you'll be 46 hours into becoming a professional golfer. Josh reckoned we could have built a house by now. I reckon he could have built a house, yeah. I was next to a McDonald's in Japan that got built in 48 hours. Really? I thought they'd do that. Oh, no, they're just the coordination. Much like the stunts in this movie.

Oh, please, tell me more about the stunts, John. Everything's a bit too perfect. Well, Josh has given his heartfelt thought. Six words from the heart. I enjoyed it. I must say, anything... What I found intriguing was starting with the moose scene, right? Run me through it, Di. No, there's a deer, I think.

There's a moose or a deer. It's a deer. Well, yeah, a deer. A deer's a skinny moose, isn't it? It's quite big. It might have been an elk. Yeah, you've got an elk. You've got a massive deer in the room.

It wasn't an elk. You can tell by the horns. It looks like an elk. No, elks have those... They have like wide-brimmed sort of horns. Oh, you think of a massive deer in the room it wasn't an elk you can tell by the horns those looks like an elk no alks have those they have like wide brim sort of horns that's the point what does an elk look like it looks like the thing that's at the start of the movie yeah well a little bit yeah sorry a moose has feltier horns they say it's a deer they consistently refer to the animal on screen as a deer. Okay. Why don't you let me go on about it being an elk and a moose then?

Sorry, carry on. It's a deer. So sorry, we're talking about the deer. So the deer's in the room. You've got no build up. You've got nowhere to go. Right?

So first of all, you'd know the deer was in it. She'd smell the deer. So in real life, you'd smell a deer. No, I'm going to challenge you on that point brother because when you're asleep your sense of smell switches off your olfactory functions are rendered moot no but when you're asleep okay that's maybe in the yeah in the

deep of a sleep but in the morning when you're still you're on the fringe of waking up anyway you know like there's often there's bleed in between the end of your dream and the beginning of the day if you have a little a deer snuffling around your snacks next to your bed that adam sandler keeps there or no i'm gonna stop you there guys selma hayek is out cold we know this she keeps trying to get back to sleep she she keeps telling lenny let me sleep she's gone but if you're out cold you're not saying let me sleep sleep. Salma Hayek in this movie is your scented candle type. I could see she smelled good. What are you talking about?

She smells good. Her room smells good. Are you talking about the verb or the adjective? You'd notice. Well, like she smells good herself or she sniffs other things that are good? No, she smells good. Oh, okay. Her room smells good, right?

She wears a lot of breathable fabrics in this, and so she smells good, right? That yoga mat would be a thing of beauty, like an Akoya candle. Oh. But, yeah. That's some time in Japan, haven't you, brother?

So all I'm saying is that with a deer in the room, you'd smell a deer. And you've started... Because it would upset the very special fragrance that she has going on in the room at you'd smell a deer. And you've started... Because it would upset the very special fragrance that she has going on in the room at all other times. Exactly. You don't know where that deer's been.

But it's got... The movie has massive gags that are some yay or nay funny, but they're so over the top, you've got to laugh at what they're trying to achieve. So, like, give me an example. Give me your top two over-the-top gags that may not have been that outrageous? Like, over-the-top gags. Oh, no.

One that worked. Yeah. I wasn't a fan of the stone bus driver. Nick Swanson. Yeah, Nick Swanson. Slightly overplayed. Yet, when the bloody inflatable raft pops out in the Kmart. Yeah, bro.

Yeah, dude. It's a huge stunt. Massive stunt. Huge physical gag. And then when the guy in the Kmart yeah dude it's a huge stunt massive stunt and then when the guy in the fight flies over the roof when Shaq throws him

yeah when Shaq throws him over the roof they're these huge stunts and even even the changeable table oh yeah

that's a lot of effort we haven't really talked about the changeable table I'm trying to work out the physics of it Josh you were laughing sort of at various different moments in the movie

with real mirth and joy. Can you walk us through what was going on there? I mean, there were some funny bits. I can't remember what they were. But there were some funny bits. I really, really laughed hard at those. But I really laughed hard at the bits that probably didn't work.

And I think I just enjoyed them because I kind of imagined being on set and the guy goes, oh, so hang on. So he finishes his line, turns at me, and then I go, what? Is that right? And you want me to just get a bit higher? What? And really hold it. Okay, cool. I think I'm good now. Let's go again.'s go again sorry team sorry it's taking me a while during the day but i think i've got okay let's go let's go

make it a good one and the funny thing is about your observation is that that random dude you're talking about is an snl alumni apparently tim meadows who's like legendarily funny i know and like that's him that's him he in the movie. He nailed the first what? Yeah. And they could have reused that first what?

But it got, it got a bit weird. Hey, can I just jump back to hashtag deer detail? Grab it, bro. Yeah, I'd love to go. The bra

on the deer's antlers. We are in the first minute and a half of the movie. No, but it is still there. Yes.

Maybe 13 hours later at the party. That's how we know it's the same deer and not a different one. Just in case. Was that when they first tried to introduce sexiness in? Because I was thinking, why do they put a bra on? A lacy bra. It is a raunchy bra. It's a pink

see-through bra. It's not like some wacky jocks. The movie has got a confused sexual time to it. Very sexual. Because the movie, ostensibly, is a family comedy. But... It's too much. It's too much to have

a woman like that swinging their boobs around, man. It is too intense. It's a lot of skin. If I was a few years younger, I'd be sweating then sweating then well that's something we kind of posited during the watch between us if you're a young lad about 19 11 discovering your own anatomy and you've gone to this movie with your parents as i'm sure it's great this is the one that you in the in the in the store you're like can we oh hey can we can we buy this video so we can all hang out watch you really are you asking your parents

for that kind of material though not these days I don't want that's fair how old are you now Josh I'm older now I'm mid 30s yeah

so I had an awesome situation where my dad was in a film where a woman took her top off and had her boobs out alright

so we had legitimately had the V8 but then you're running that fine line of being all chubbed up when your dad comes in top off and had her boobs out. Alright. So we had legitimately had the V8. But then you're running that fine line of being all chubbed up with your dad. Well, that's what I was going to say. Has that led to any interesting kind of maybe sexual... No, luckily he was in the film

then he was out of the film. They're not in the same place at the same time. So never at the same time. But there was very sexual but also the policemen cleaning each other's nipples where, you know, the police partner goes, can I get in on that? I'm going to allow that one on the basis of if you're a kid and you kind of don't get

what nipples do, it's sort of like, oh, it's silly. You know what I mean? It works on a silly level. But the yoga stuff. We're not saying that like these other things, we're not having a go at like these specific people saying they're not saying that like these other things, we're not having a go at like these specific people saying they're not funny. I just assume that they all turn up to work and they have to do this script

and they don't have a choice in the matter because they're getting paid money for it to sell stuff at Kmart and they're going to have to do whatever the hell it says. That's not funny. Now this has got to have garnered quite a lot of sponsorship dollars. Okay, this is what I'm interested in because very early on in the podcast

we were talking about the accounting practices and the money and that sort of thing. So this movie had a budget of $80 million and it grossed $230 million. But I don't know. I think that might just be box office. Who knows how much Adam Sandler's production company made.

So you've got all the phones that Nokia would know. Are they Sony? Sony Ericsson. It's a Sony Pictures film film There's bio computers in there Two brands that no longer exist Kevin James is filming the ballet recital with a Sony handycam Why's he got a handycam, eh?

Well, yeah, his children aren't actually in the ballet recital So it is a little bit weird Really? Yeah, and also you both are making noises And it's true, because that ballet teacher is trying to stuff on stage and there's a lot of younger woman around so very awkward not younger woman tiny girls they're like you're like the result that's bad what they what are they trying to achieve because you know when you go out as a director for any scene you're trying to achieve an emotion from the person watching it. What are they trying to get turned on?

Guilty arousal, I think. Screwball, there's eight-year-olds in the shot. Guilty arousal could be a good name for this film, actually. Now, listen, I want to catch this next bit because we've got something we love to do with our guests. And, Guy, do you want to explain it to them? Oh, yeah. So, more or less, we'll do a little role

play uh we're in we are the executive producers you two have penned the script for grown-ups too and uh and you're pitching it to us we're in the office you've come in you're money hungry uh you know you guys you understand unplug that mic mic Josh And plug it back in It's doing There we go Alright So whenever In your own time Come into the office

Okay Okay Have you guys seen Star Wars I actually haven't Not No Okay Well there's some very

There's Star Wars themes Yeah Running through this A lot of imagery Can I just first of all Introduce myself My name is Mr. Bat. This is Mr. Montgomery.

We're from the studio. It's lovely to meet you. This is my cousin. Josh, is it? Cousin Di. He's touched. No, but I'm so excited about this film. No, you take it away.

No, you're touched. So he's, I've brought him along to, you know, help him see how men talk. Okay? Josh is the one we need. All right. Josh, let me throw it over to you. Let me take you back in time.

I'm there. Let's harken back 30 years to the 80s. We've got big hair, bright clothes, and damn fine music. Now that is part of what we're selling.

We're taking people back. You take your whole family and go, look children, that's what I was doing. That's a really positive memory for me. Yes, good. So that's really interesting

that you've got this. I've got. Do you guys like black stereotypes? What? Sorry, my wife is African American. Oh, well, so there's an African American wife in this?

So the answer is yes. Strong woman characters. Very strong woman characters. They're strong woman characters. Yes. Because so surely she's got a big honky nose. And the thing is, the kids like to get... Steve Urkel.

You like Steve Urkel? Love Family Matters. Everyone loves Steve Urkel. Who doesn't? Fresh Steve Urkel. Imagine Steve Urkel and Bobby Brown. Oh, okay. Tell me more. Tell me more.

And the 80s. All right, I need more. We've got an experience for you where you can take. We've got the big four. We've got over 25 male. We've got under 25 male. We've got over 25 female and under 25 female. Those are our four main demos.

That's everybody. I guess my main concern at this point in the conversation, fellas, and don't get me wrong, I'm very excited by this. I love the 80s. He's everybody. I guess my main concern at this point in the conversation, fellas, and don't get me wrong, I'm very excited by this. I love the 80s. It's good. I love stereotypes. And do family.

Is there any sort of story to this? I mean, what's the thrust? What's the hook for my family? Give us the characters and show us their journey.

The thrust is, I don't know if you remember a show called Airplane. It's gags. A movie, Airplane. It's gags, gags,

gags. Storyline can take a backseat. Weoplane it's gags a movie aeroplane it's gags gags gags storyline can take a back seat we want gags gags boobs let me make sure i've got you right here die is it it's a family movie day you can't put boobs in a family movie you can't concentrate you can't follow a script while your children are on their phones and your your wife's cooking and you're trying to watch a movie, you can't focus on that. You need just a constant, hey, there's something happening over here. There's something happening, and then, what?

That's all you need for two hours. I just want to make sure I understand what you're suggesting. This film you've just written is the next aeroplane? Yes. What I'm also suggesting is some people don't like films. They like wrestling. So we're going to put a champion wrestler in it. Who have you got? Who are you thinking? Stone Cold Steve Austin.

He finally dies speaking my language. Stone Cold Steve Austin, the rock. He's all action. He's all buff. He's not comedy. This is Stone Cold Steve Austin's softer side. So you bring in the harder woman in. You see? The wrestling fans. The woman who like a man with a bit of leather waistcoat about him. We're hitting a lot of...

This is very appealing to me. You're hitting a lot of marks that I like. I'm just here at Sony. But listen... Also, sorry, before you talk... All right. Before you talk, you don't have to pony up all the money. Well, that was my next question.

Dude, they're on board. Those guys are hem all the money. Well, that was my next question. Good. They're on board. Those guys are hemorrhaging. They love spending big. I know. I don't know if they make the drinks, but Rockstar are on board. Another thing that we've found. Sorry.

Another thing that we've found. Josh, take the floor. Sorry. Another thing that we've found is that we're not going to have characters that you follow in a movie. We've just got heaps of well-known sort of people that you go, ah, it's the guy. So you can sit down and go, ah, it's the guy from the, it's the lady. This is the lady from History of Violence. An amazing film.

She's in there. We'll be engaged the whole time. Yeah, yeah. She's doing different things. Steve Buscemi's in there What you guys are saying Is hey let's take plot What's that an open window

Because that's where The plot's going But we're going to We're going to make a movie That's going to hold The attention Of all our key demos Under and over 25's men

Under and over 25's women Yes You either Draw people in With a firm story Or you draw them in With hot deer piss on a dude's face. We're going the latter. I haven't heard anything about this yet.

Listen, you're a positively breath of fresh air. I love where this is at and I'm ready to green light this. How much would you like? 60 mil? 80 mil? Adam Sandler's on it as well. 80 mil it is. I'm sold.

Good. Mr Montgomery, what say you? you yeah this guys i'm really excited about this project i i don't see any way this movie could go wrong sweet uh this concludes the role play part of the podcast i think we sold it josh hey good work we were pretty we were pretty sort of flexible sort of morally and financially you You definitely swung from no to definitely yes. You're right, though. There is no story whatsoever. I have no idea what happened.

I want to drill into this, Josh. So, like, tell me, take me along as the movie went on, where you were at emotionally and kind of intellectually. So we open on a deer. There's a deer. I mean, the deer, I don't know if you guys have raised deer with your own hands.

What I have, I've had deer on the farm. It's a very dangerous animal, very dangerous animal. I don't know how it got up the stairs, but they are very, very strong. So maybe a deer got up the stairs. Yes, great.

What you don't do is, the deer comes down the stairs. You don't take your entire family behind a very dangerous deer in a big house because it's dangerous to your children. Well, you're not right. So you're saying that Grown Ups 2 should not be a how-to guide for parenting is what you're suggesting.

No, it's got very horrible bits. And then he broke his kid's leg. Yeah, man. Hey, but let me tell you, as someone who's brought up deer, because I've always wondered about the physics of this and the biology, could that deer run up and or down stairs with the way that their knees are configured? Does that stack up? The staircase is too small for a deer.

Well, that's true. Also, I reckon on that lot, they bought far too much blue paint and then had to do gags with it. It was splashing around, eh? One, I found that they pulled the gags off amazingly, they filled a car half with blue paint. Yeah. None of it's leaking out.

The dude doesn't choose. You're right. Like, I reckon if I went up to my car before I opened the door, I'd know that it was half full of blue paint. He's driven there with it in, hasn't he? Yeah, and then he opens the door and it all comes out. I never thought about that. Guy, have you ever considered that?

The dude's driving around in his car with the blue paint. He might have had to walk home the night before he did his stressful day at the office. He drinks and walks to school. No, no, he went into the office and the kids filled it up in the car park. Oh, that's right, because he walks up to it. It's after school. No, it's the beginning of school. Huh, okay.

Yeah, it's the beginning. And then he gets blue painted at the end of the day, eh? Yeah, when he's doing the announcement over the PA. Now, I pulled the odd prank at school. Taking a keg of blue-paint into the principal's ceiling and removing the asbestos square quietly enough to pour it perfectly over him, and him going,

Ah! Every year! Every year! Every year I thought, why doesn't he get those troublemakers? Why doesn't he seal the ceiling? Yes, blue skull. Because that would really

ruin every year. I mean, and the ridiculous thing is that he's actually wearing, you will have heard, his favourite shirt. He wears his favourite shirt on that last... Since he was 12. And if he's known that every year they're gonna pour pour blue paint on him why would you wear your favorite shirt on the one day listen we got to wrap up this part we've got some transportation to catch oh i just want to sorry how come he's got a dry shirt after he's being pissed on with a deer i've got to say you two dudes both noticed that and i have did notice that before, a guy in the 45 previous time?

It hadn't occurred to me to think about it. Where's the deer piss going, bro? It's all over his face. Adam Sandler's working his tail off to get that deer out of the house. His energy and sort of the rate at which his brain and heart are going have sort of...

They've heated him up to the point that any clothes that were wet on him sort of 10 seconds prior are now dry. I reckon he did... He scototched guarded his T-shirts. I've always thought about doing that. No, but you see them wet. That's a capital idea, by the way. Capital idea.

Oh, fuck. But he didn't do it because they're definitely wet. You see, anyway. You sidetracked me, bro. Yeah, so where do we want to go to next, Guy? What's our first destination? I'd ask Josh and Di if you could please get aboard the bus. You on the bus?

Yeah, I'm on the bus. I mean, I'm a bit stressed out because who's driving? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's Paddy Schwartz party time. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's Paddy Schwartz. He's riding around your house on a children's tricycle. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. He's opening up the drawers. He's rumbling through your pots and pans. Paddy Schwartz, party time.

He's putting tinfoil in the microwave. Paddy! Don't put tinfoil in the microwave. Paddy! Don't put tinfoil in the microwave! Die Hand with Josh Thompson. Thanks again for joining us today. Thank you. In this movie, you may have noticed one of the co-stars is Patrick Schwarzenegger's son, who goes by Patrick Shriver right now.

As far as we know, Patrick Schwarzenegger doesn't have a son. Arnold Schwarzenegger's son. Oh, yeah, sorry. Arnold Schwarzenegger's son, Patrick. I beg your pardon. Yeah. No No fair point So what we like to do Every week

Is find our favourite part Of Patrick Schwarzenegger's performance Do you guys remember him Being in the film at all I'm thinking I remember Graffiti Cliff It was here around The Graffiti Cliff eh

He was in that scene At the quarry By Suicide 35 And he gets out With the jocks Yeah he was in that scene at the quarry by suicide 35 and he gets out he gets out with the jocks yeah he was wearing a baby blue singlet

with yellow trim and he was the beautiful man he was beautiful he was beautiful he had lips like the thing is I noticed

Salma Hayek started the movie off with very crusty crusty lips like they needed some lip balm and

Patrick Schwartz gets out of the car. He's been cruising in his 5.0 with his dudes all day, and his lips are beautiful. You weren't right about that, bro. I've noticed Patrick Schwartz's lips before. They're kind of majestic. They're like two tiny Cheerios, you know, that have been cooked just to the right tautness.

Like, just before the skin's going to break. Yeah. Right to the maximum. And at the beginning of the movie, Selma's Cheerios have been on the boil for a little too long. Selma Hayek's Cheerios. They're bursting out of the skin, mate. They got left out.

That's how I feel about her lips. They didn't, because otherwise you would see weird shit going on. Yeah, the reason why I think this is featured so much for me is I feel everyone in this movie is overly made up. Like the costume and hair and makeup has gone to town. We're talking about how it's so well lit. You can see the makeup on everyone. You noticed it was really well lit really early on,

which I appreciate. Because you guys haven't heard the podcast, have you? No. You haven't watched the movie, you haven't heard the podcast. I'm excited that we've all noticed it's a beautifully lit movie, but what I'm going to need from either one or both of you is the highlight of your Patrick Schwarzenegger experience. The lips count.

I think the second time he's on, everyone's sort of jockish, but he is like a gazelle. A beautiful lithe gazelle with a high school body just glistening through. You know what I'll be dying is, he's been known to work out on the rig down at Gold's Gym on Beers Beach. I bet. The one thing

I was thinking is I feel sorry for the woman he makes love to, because you know, he'd be like a ball of twine but that's wrapped in a beanbag if that makes any sense like a sexy beanbag run me through that well like the thing is he'd be cuddly but once he tensed he'd be a ball of muscle he's nowhere near like his father no no no but he's lying he's wrapped around a bean bag he's kind of he's sinewy but hot but

he was kind of a female like he kind of just looked dreamy yeah dreamy like a John Stainless dreamy he didn't strike me

as a very grisly man no he hadn't quite come into his own because when this movie was shot he was 20

and he's very pretty in the movie right right you've seen the lips and the eyelashes are huge but I tell you what me and Guy both

follow him on Twitter at Patrick whatever but more importantly at Blaze Pizza yeah he's a good guy right and he's he's

he's looking more masculine now he's got a beard yeah he's got what he what he what he what

there's this great pizza joint on Venice Beach guys I gotta say if you're ever in Venice if you're in LA you find yourself hungry you're hungry but you're also in a rush you gotta to get to a job interview all right you

got the big job interview because you need to make rent or you and your family you're gonna get kicked out of your apartment you got a job interview because you've just penned the greatest movie ever told right and you got to meet with these studio execs you can't miss that bus you got to meet with mr baton mr montgomery you've only got about 180 seconds to get yourself a snack tweet. Now, there's this little joint called Blaze Pizza. Oh, yeah. Yeah, all right.

The ingredients are hashed. In two minutes. Art is anal. In two minutes. No, just over two minutes. Three minutes. You've got to order it, though, surely. Woe to go.

Probably three minutes. Three and a half if you add the order time in there as well. 180 seconds. I don't mean to derail the podcast. I just had to bring that up. We are contractually obligated Obviously to bring up Our Blaze Pizza Hashtag how do you Blaze

They are paying us Out the Waz Baz For this We are receiving no money From Blaze Pizza But we hope to Back and voice them For all the promo we've done

At any rate We need to get into Our second destination Which of course is Roll up Roll up for the mystery tour which of course is roll up roll up for the mystery tour and roll up roll up for the mystery tour

roll up for the mystery tour the Steve Buscemi mystery tour is coming to take you away coming to take you away take you today the Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour Now we tried to forewarn you during the film I don't know how much of it you absorbed

What do you know about it? Of what? So Steve Buscemi got an injury in the first Grown Ups film Which neither of us have seen yet And we have to guess what it was But the injury was there for one scene When he was all Yeah boy, flavour, flavour He was far

Because he implied he was injured From the arms down What, really? No, it was more like Doesn't he hold the arms up Like he's a referee in football I thought he was being the goal post Yeah, no, so did I

But he said I'm injured from the arms down Two years of this With his arms up in the touch position and only 40% feeling in his body. So something happened in the first movie. It's got to be the deer maybe. Maybe he was wearing a pink bra because they went to a cross-dressing 90s party in the first movie.

You're on too deep, man. And then the deer Came and Whipped his bra off and Nailed him So that's what the bra is always on the deer's Antler The deer

Didn't have a bra when we first saw it And I don't condemn you for not Knowing this after one watch The deer got it from someone. Oh, the deer got it. It's a washing laundry thing, which Adam Sandler and his kids throw at the deer to try and slow it down.

I wonder how... It's a bizarre defence. I assume there was a few riders. How many riders were in it? Do you guys know? Three, mate. I think there were three head riders. I don't know if Adam Sandler was one of those,

but he was definitely collaborating. They were all former Saturday Night Live riders. Right. It's a bold move to start with this deer thing like swinging and going okay well maybe

it was just the integrity raping he got from his agent when he sent this script and they said do it to who? to Steve Besteeming

oh to Steve Besteeming and he went and since I've read this I've got no feeling I'm 40% of my body but I'm here I'm going with the deer

I did not follow the Josh the bit leading up to that Josh I felt like you weren't entirely on board with Dines 3 although I think

it's perfectly plausible and reasonable no I wasn't it doesn't make any sense whatsoever I mean what do you think caused the injury oh hang on

you said that deer caused the injury yeah this could work Where you been Joshy What are you talking about Tomo I thought

The deer The guy The thought The deer And Steve You were saying deer But Steve Buscemi Were the same actor

Or something at one stage It doesn't make any sense No he got hit by the deer In the first movie So you're saying Steve Buscemi Was wearing a pink bra Yeah at a dress up party

Guess what Rob Schneider's Not the only one who was in the first movie, so was the deer. But hang on. That's what you're suggesting. Rob Schneider's in the first movie, by the way. The bra. That doesn't surprise me, to be honest.

I met him once. I interviewed him for 20 minutes, yeah. He's an interesting cat. He seems interesting. He's very zen, but in an intense way, which is kind of like something that is at odds with itself. I'm very surprised that he isn't in this movie. It screams Rob Schneider.

Well, some people say there was scheduling errors, but we've read maybe there was a fall out. Because isn't Rob Schneider part of Adam Sandler's stable? The Sandlerverse? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and you look at the Rob Schneider movies, you look at the animal, the hot chick. Adam Sandler's cameoing in those in the same way Rob Schneider's cameoing in these. Is he in Deuce Bigelow? I don't know. Adam Sandler, I don't think he is.

I've seen Deuce Bigelow. What's your, like when you guys watch it with people, I can't imagine what's wrong with you, but like I can't imagine, like so sometimes I'll have a YouTube clip that I'll particularly like and I'll show someone

and some people will really respond to it really well and some people won't. So what parts do you like the best from the movie and can't wait till someone sees a couple of bits? You've led us perfectly into the shining light. The first thing is that Guy and myself don't have attachment to the film in the same way because we're not vouching for it. Do you know what I mean?

We've thrown ourselves into this pit where we've got to watch it over and over again. But if you put on a YouTube video on your phone and you're like, hey, check this out. This is awesome. You've got investment. You've got stock in there. You've got skin in the game. We don't have a lot of skin in the game here. You guys don't need to love the movie. I kind of associate the movie with you guys now.

Do you? It's terrifying. I see. Is that what we've become now? Is that our career? Z-Dog. Z-Dog. You said Z-Dog to you. Good memory, Di. terrifying i see is that what we've become now is that our career um z-dog z-dog you said z-dog to you good memory die good memory i said someone write that down yeah i'm gonna bring up the z-dog thing because someone brought up on the facebook page i just want to say brayden higgins uh uh david spade's son the guy who combs his hair with the switchblade knife someone refers to him as z-dog once and there's no explanation leading up to it or

after or any repeat of that name so i just want to validate your concerns person who's seen the movie once i i always feel i don't know i this might be unfair of me but i always feel like when you know you take issue with the fact that they haven't referenced z-dog earlier in the film i mean you know we could sit here for 46 weeks and make complaints very similar in terms of just like, just laziness.

I don't know what I'm saying. And in a lot of ways I wonder what What's the dog's name? Is it Zachariah? Brayden Higgins. Do you think it was Zachariah?

Yes. That's not an obvious guess. To be honest, I didn't pay the best attention. I wonder what got cut out of this film, whether they filmed the whole scene of Higgins trying to work at the soup shop,

the soup kitchen, and then his son finding out. Because it suddenly gets referenced. And so many lines in this film, random throwaways, then have this huge callback to. I'll throw over to Guy Montgomery to explain why that wouldn't be the case. Specifically with the soup. Vis-a-vis the soup kitchen. So when David Spade first meets his son, Braden Higgins, at the train station,

you'll both remember he sort of becomes afraid because Brayden cuts the head off the teddy bear. Yeah. And he tells his son, because he doesn't want to spend the day with him because he's nervous and you would be. Your son's just drawn a switchblade. He says, I'd love to hang out. You've got to go to school because I'm working late at the soup kitchen today.

And then so Brayden... An obvious lie. Yeah. The movie said that. kitchen today and then so brayden an obvious lie yeah the movies and unbeknownst to us brayden actually sort of invests a level of trust in that in that line and then somehow finds out yeah well he finds out because when he's down the quarry you know as you would be it's first day of summer i mean everybody swims down the quarry and standing connecticut we know this uh he he he he sees his dad jumping off the cliff How can you be working in the soup kitchen

See that's when I'm looking at your knackers Jumping into the pool I don't know if this is a normal thing That people do overseas But there's a lot of graffiti on that cliff Yeah man Like the entire quarry Has been spray painted

You're tagging nature It's really weird because we don't do that here hey joshy i don't think so we don't do it i used to hang out in the mongrel mob cave but out at piha did you and there's a lot of not while i were there like just after that left just to sort of sniff the vibe but there was there's like yeah out of pet and it's closed off now it's down the north end of piha there's's a lot of mongrel mob graffiti and so forth in it. Was it the same? Very different scene to the one in there.

Was it the same level of kind of layering and coverage that they had? No, it didn't look like a perfect graffiti magazine like that cliff look. I likened it to the pink and white terraces. Research them. They're very similar. Google that. Very different clientele however do you reckon

that was art department do you reckon they went and painted that no why that's location they found that quarry

surely you reckon a little bit from columbia and a little bit from columbia do you think that added to

an already existing scenario if there was someone they would have said spread it out so it matches this thing

because it was too perfect if it was real it would have been all overlapped and there would have been a lot more cock and balls on it to be honest a fair and biting justification for why there's something i mentioned while we're watching this and that was that every scene seems

to have talking that phases out then there's a weird gag to get out of the scene yeah you mentioned you articulated something that i've always felt watching the movie, but I've never been able to express in words, and that's that the people making this film didn't know how to finish, they don't know how to end a scene. Yeah. And you're so right,

that's what it is. At the end of every sequence or scene, there's an odd little joke that they're trying to launch as a catchphrase or a gag, and then you simply move on into the next random set of events. But they don't use subtext at all

because it's like scene say what you need to in the first sentence then gag gag like with the soup kitchen thing the dude comes up with soup kitchen my arse or whatever tattooed on his arse the other thing we didn't bring up is that he's a warlock we don't know that's a theory

I came up with once Fitz what does it mean? That he's like a demon Because I posited that he's got quite special powers That make him a supernatural being He looks very young Young for a demon who's over 4000 years old I think I've got some sort of power over time from my understanding

You've been watching Angel? No Did you watch Buffy were you a Buffy fan Tomo no that's my genre I can't handle

oh really zombies vampires and warlocks and that sort of I loved Buffy and I was quite I'm talking

original run Buffy when it was first on the telly not reruns I was right into that the movie I saw the movie it was originally a movie yes yeah

and it wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar it was someone it wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar it was someone else first but Sarah Michelle Gellar took it and made it her own with that guy who directed it who's made amazing movies

I read Cormac McCarthy's The Road and Cried at the end we've all got stories we've all got cultural cultural touchstones Patrick Swayze Schwarzenegger

yes Schwarzenegger Shriver Shriver Shriver he said something in it didn't he didn't he have

two words yeah he says words there was a bit of activity so I didn't quite what were those

words okay so Paddy Schwartz's lines yeah they're shaking he's so mad my brother's

shaking he's so mad when Taylor Lautner says you've you've ruined what you've you've ruined what is that you've ruined

our celebration look at my hands they're shaking I'm so mad and Patrick Schwarzenegger goes yeah my brother's shaken and the rest of it

it's a lot of mouth work I think the rest of it is he's just joining in on lines I'm trying to scan through the rest of the script can we revisit Josh's

word bumble there imagine if Patrick Swayze played that part oh wait that would to the script can we revisit Josh's word bumble there imagine if Patrick Swayze played that part oh that would it wouldn't surprise me

because because so many cameos it would it would have surprised me if Patrick did manage

and instead of that weird bass line that comes on when he first has an appearance it's Unchained Melody

that starting bit doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom there's, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. There's so many cameos in it. I wonder... It almost feels... It almost actually feels... I better know, I better.

Even though it doesn't reference any cultural things, any pop culture, it feels in the vein of a scary movie type style to me. Like a weigh-in send-up movie. Yeah, like it feels that it is mocking other movies and other cultural touchstones. It's never occurred to me that Grown Ups 2 was sort of taking a swing at any other genre or style of film.

Hey, we've got to put a pin on this. The time's gotten away on me. Josh, you go. There's one real thing. There's nothing to really follow. I didn't know who was meant to be Following I guess it was Adam Sandler but then I thought it was the big guy

I don't know what happened What this movie wants you to say Josh is What But what did happen What happened to Adam Sandler His kid wasn't there or something The question you're asking is I think so much bigger than you realize and

then we have time for because what what did just happen no exactly but weekly every week what just happened you know what's what why would you do that i'm gonna throw over to guy montgomery for a real quick shining light oh okay, okay. My shining light. Very early in the film. When they do a cross from the Fader's house to Kevin James' house, the first shot they've got in a stabbing shot outside of it before we meet Bean, who's struggling with his math homework, there's a really cool female extra with wraparound shades. She's wearing a green singlet and blue jeans.

I like to think she wasn't hired for the film. She was actually walking maybe to the mechanics to pick up her car. And she was just really rocking it right through that shot. You only get to see her for one or two seconds,

but she was really, she was really hitting her straps. Love that. For My Shining Light, which is the part of the movie we legitimately enjoyed this week. This can't just be a non-stop hate fest

of 52 weeks. It's ridiculous. There's another extra, background extra. It's a male who's in tanya's first appearance at the ice cream uh parlor and he clearly doesn't know he's in a movie or how to act in a movie and i really enjoyed the authenticity of that moment he's just looking around he doesn't know where to focus in he doesn't know what's going on i've got a little shining light a brief one is um there's a guy who it's this gag i know out at where a holiday guys who pull this gag it's the ice cream guy committing to the all right hollywood you've been in your films now you move back here he knows he hasn't been in any films he hasn't even been working in the entertainment industry but he's's always, whoa there, Hollywood.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa there, California guy. 20 vice wardens. That's how you do it in Hollywood. Yeah, it's like wherever you go down south, and it's okay, Auckland. Oh, filling your gas tank up to full, are you? Oh, okay, Auckland.

Did that touch a wee bit of a nerve die as someone who's from the hut and heart is still in the hut? Well, actually, it happened from Timaru. I got this in Timaru when I was driving through there. Tomo's from Timaru. I point out Tomo's from Timaru. I was filling my car up at the petrol station, and the guy went, oh, filling it the whole way up.

Oh, okay, Auckland. And it's like, dude, I'm driving the length of the island. I'm filling my car up. I love it. But no, it just touched a stone with me, that guy. That spoke to you. Yeah, and then I lost all credibility for the movie when he was shitting out the ice cream.

Fair call. So Dickie's your highlight. Josh? Fuck. You don't have to have one necessarily. No, but I really laughed at a whole bunch of things. I can't remember what they were. Well, I'll tell you what you laughed at,

and this is the same for Tom Corey. You loved Kid Dynamite. Yeah, man. When you said, ooh, that's cool. Yeah, I was imagining that I was that age and I could have auditioned for it. I could have been that kid from Grown Ups 2, that little fuzzy head kid.

As a parent, I found I never used to find a character like that funny, yet I find it a lot funnier now. Dad humour, maybe that's what we're missing, bro. So this is what I find weird. Dad humour, I'm actually, I'm not fully into it, but I'm understanding it now. Is this movie for you? It's getting close, man.

It's getting close to being for you. It's getting close. It's for you, it's for new dads. It's for new dads. It's got boobs. Seems like a perfect place to put a bow on it. No, but they play on all the things of, oh, you never go out anymore. You're only, because it's true, man.

Yeah, right. Like, you end up, you're drinking at kids' parties with people. You're a grown-up. With other dudes you hardly ever know. You're a grown-up. Tune in to episode 47, where Guy Montgomery and Tim Beck get some women pregnant to appreciate the movie a little bit more. This has been fabulous having you guys on. Josh Thompson and Di Henwood, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. pregnant to appreciate the movie a little bit more. This has been fabulous having you guys on.

Josh Thompson and Di Henwood, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. I really like the movie. Guy, anything you want to close out on? You guys have got to go out there and live every moment. Love every day. We'll catch you next week. Before you know it, your precious time slips away. Live every moment.