The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Thirteen - FitzHigham

Episode Date: October 15, 2018

Guy and Tim are struggling to hold on so they've brought another special guest into the fold: This week, British Comedian, multiple world record holder and Commodore of the Royal Navy, Tim FitzHigham.... Also, as part of the NZ International Comedy Festival, the boys have recorded the epsiode live in front of an audience in downtown Auckland at New Zealand's only full-time comedy club, The Classic. Enjoy. Somebody should. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just unbelievably, even the credits are sexist. How do you fucking make credits sexist? How have they achieved doing that? There's Liz. They're not saying who it is, are they? They're not saying who's doing what. Here we are, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the worst idea of all time live record edition. Episode 13, we'll just flick it down a little bit. We're joined, my name is Tim Bette my name's Guy Montgomery and we're joined by Tim Fitz
Starting point is 00:00:46 hi ladies and gentlemen good evening all the way from England oh yes I'm so glad you brought me
Starting point is 00:00:52 here for this halfway across the world to see this film do you want to see the credits is this what you were waiting
Starting point is 00:00:58 for I think we should name some of these people forever Steve Austin really
Starting point is 00:01:03 oh wait we know him should have if you look see Dennis there's the gym teacher Dan Patrick we like the gym teacher
Starting point is 00:01:09 so now you thought for time international comedian that Arnold Schwarzenegger's son features in this film he does Fred Boyd
Starting point is 00:01:16 he's there look oh there he is Patrick Schwarzenegger I was right he's the guy he's the one that doesn't get any lines right
Starting point is 00:01:23 okay are we down for the credits now? I think we're there. We just had to double check that I'm not... The movie's going on. All right. Now, for those of you in the room who don't know the concept, if you came...
Starting point is 00:01:33 Fuck, what are you doing here? If you came here, you must know. Tim and I are watching Grown Ups 2 once a week for 52 weeks, and we're reviewing it immediately afterwards. After last week, we got in James Acaster. He just looks shattered. He looked genuinely shattered. I was sleeping.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I was having a really good sleep this afternoon, and I woke up, and I was like, oh, I was late. I was late. The reason this whole thing's running late is because I was sleeping. And I tell you, the worst reason to get out of bed is to come into the city so you can watch Grown Ups 2. For how many times? This is the 13th.
Starting point is 00:02:08 13th. 13th time, Tim Fitzheim. Was it lucky? Was it unlucky for you? Listen. Are they all unlucky? Listen, I appreciate you coming in on our podcast, but we'll be asking the questions back. I want to get your initial thoughts.
Starting point is 00:02:20 What do you think of this film, this Hollywood film that we're watching 52 times? It's very well lit. Isn't it? There's definitely been a lot of money spent on the lighting. I think that. Now, that sounds like an errant comment, maybe a slightly cheap comment, but
Starting point is 00:02:37 it has been noted in previous episodes that the thing with this movie, the thing that'll get you is that it has all the appearances of a good movie. It looks slick enough. It's shot well. As you say, it's lit well. The sound mixing, fine.
Starting point is 00:02:51 The stunts are very slick. Relatively impressive. Yep. Quite seamless. And yet, terrible film. I'd just like to gauge from the people in the room, who's seen Grown Ups 2? Anybody?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Both of you two have? Nice. Why? who's seen, who's seen Grown Ups 2? Anybody? Both of you two have? Yes. Nice. Why? There's three, there's three. Actually, this podcast kind of
Starting point is 00:03:10 inspired me to watch it. You watched it after we warned you not to watch the film. Because we say that every week. Yeah, I know, but it enriches the listening experience to know what you guys are talking about.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I see. If you can't hear him, Mike, the man said that it enriches the podcast experience by going through it. I mean, it's already so rich, I don't know how you could handle any more.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Hang on a minute, this is reverse marketing. Holy shit. What you've achieved. What the fuck is this? We've got an audience, baby. What you have achieved here is that you have become a successful marketing tool for grown-ups too.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That man would never have watched this he would never have had to spend what is it nearly two hours of his life let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:03:49 did you pay money to see it no no no thank god and how many episodes of the podcast did you listen to before you watched it
Starting point is 00:03:57 I only discovered the podcast a few weeks ago so maybe six or seven and you're like I just have to know well yeah it makes it a lot easier
Starting point is 00:04:05 to get through the podcast to listen to the podcast you could have just stopped listening to the podcast you don't need to listen to the podcast it's a dud mate
Starting point is 00:04:16 the whole thing's shit no listen we're getting off track in record time let's keep this puppy on the track Tim Fitzhiem our international
Starting point is 00:04:24 comedian guest for this week by the track. Tim Fitzhigham, our international comedian guest this week. By the way, if you're listening to the podcast, the man who created the podcast just said this podcast is a dud. Which is not, again, it's reverse marketing. It's genius. I don't know if anything that's happening right now is genius, Tim. It's really quite bleak. Today.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer. Everybody run! Ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So there's a little bit of admin. Should we do the admin first or do you want to do the admin later? Any questions for Tim up front? What I noticed immediately in watching it with you, Tim, is often, like when we had James in last week, he was sort of, I found it energising to have someone else watching and experiencing them watching it for the first time. You were really visibly, your body language
Starting point is 00:05:25 was very depressed. Yeah, it was painful. The whole movie. It was like you were one of us. You'd watched it 12 times already. You weren't even like, I'm going to enjoy how shit this is. You were just like, what's going on there? And I came in so positive as well. When I got out of bed, I was really
Starting point is 00:05:41 positive about it. I thought, this is going to be a great film. Watching it with you guys. We even had popcorn. This was great. It all had the set-up of being exciting and great. And then it started. Some bits were painful. What juts out at you?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Just from memory off the top of your dome right now. At what moments were you just... Because you did. You were doing this. You did the head and the hands. I may have done that. Was that five minutes in? Roughly. Yeah, I may have.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Can you remember specifically any moments which warranted that sort of reaction? I may have hit that. I think it was in scene one when the deer, the moose, was in the bedroom. And I thought that was a great set up. I thought, that's brilliant. They're waking up. They're in love. This is fantastic. And there's, that was in the bedroom. And I thought that was a great set-up. I thought, that's brilliant. They're waking up, they're in love, this is fantastic. And there's a moose in the bedroom, that's really funny. It's quite a big start.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It's a big start. It is a big start. It's a big start. I thought this is obviously a good thing. This is going somewhere. It's got all the hallmarks. They've clearly borrowed it from Hangover, whatever it is, with the tiger. It's that kind of a joke
Starting point is 00:06:45 and then the moose the deer is just there to wee on everyone oh yeah and it's an early set up for the film in that something will happen and you'll think right this must mean something it's going somewhere, it's great nothing means anything in the film
Starting point is 00:07:00 and then they manage to scare the moose with dirty laundry I don't know if that makes any sense I mean anything in that film. And then they managed to scare the moose with dirty laundry. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that makes any sense. I mean, but it's one of
Starting point is 00:07:09 the first things that made me wonder if things were going to make sense. I also question whether a deer could go downstairs. I do wonder that too.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I wonder that. You can't, what you've got to, because when you're watching it, this is, because I have this problem with Tim each week
Starting point is 00:07:24 when you nitpick and you go, this is ridiculous, how can this be in the movie? But if you extrapolate across the whole, you can say that about everything. We want to make an edit where we take out all the superfluous bits, and you probably get like a trailer. Yeah. I'm going to break it to you, Tim, I'm not sure that was a real deer.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Are you questioning the veracity of that mighty beast? I think elements of that deer were CGI. Well, I think you're right. Someone spent money CGI-ing a deer. It's the incredible thing, Tim. For that gag. Like, and this is why I... How much money does it cost to CGI a deer?
Starting point is 00:07:57 It seems like someone... Like, someone here must work at Weta. We're in New Zealand. So someone must know how much money you'd have to spend to get that deer on its... Deer can't go on their hind legs. Can deer go on their hind legs? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Hind legs, clearly a very good gag. But the point is... OK, not for everyone. But my point is that it doesn't look plausible, and the deer's... No, but this is what I'm talking about. And how much wee is there in a deer? And how does it stop and start the weeing so much?
Starting point is 00:08:25 I know Enough to piss on a family I mean this is the thing though Is that you get so obsessed with Speculating over this detail This shitty little detail in the film You can do that to every single moment To see
Starting point is 00:08:35 We've now been talking for five minutes About the deer The deer is the first 30 second gag of the film Of an hour 40 minute film But then as it turns out, a vitally important character. It bookends the whole thing, doesn't it? The whole thing. Listen.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You go. If I may. Tim, we introduced a new segment with James Acaster, which I would love to get you to do, and that is, look, you're an international performer, you're a fabulous comedian, you can improvise. Don't build it up. You can improvise. Here's the bit.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah? Guy Montgomery and myself are studio executives. Yeah. And you've got to pitch this movie to us to get it made. And preface it with your preface that you do. Guess what, mate? Tough times. Tough times.
Starting point is 00:09:21 The global financial crisis has hit us hard. Piracy's on the rise. We're struggling to really find a profitable gold film that's going to just put us head and shoulders above the rest. We need critical acclaim. We need fantastic box office performance. What's your idea, Tim Fitzsimons? Okay. So firstly, thank you for seeing me at such short notice. I know how busy you must be with your studios. You know how...
Starting point is 00:09:49 You know how Heineken... You know how Heineken doesn't really taste like anything? And it's kind of quite a bland lager. It's my favourite beer. I'm glad you brought it up. With no real ups and downs and highs it's just it's just
Starting point is 00:10:07 and you can you can literally sell it anywhere in the world and and people will buy it oh yeah I've got an idea that if you could take Heineken
Starting point is 00:10:20 and make it into a movie that's what I'm pitching to you. That's what I'm saying. Kynokin, the movie. The bones of your proposal are really exciting to us here, Tim. But I mean, what I'm wondering is how... Oh, and it includes a weeing deer.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Well, look, I'm on board. I'll sign the check right now. I'm not going to lie, that's a sweetener. You've got your gun hoe with the pen there. It's got coffee and cock. What I'm wondering is how are not going to lie, that's a sweetener. You've got your gun hoe with the pen there. See, this is Guy. It's got coffee and cock. I mean, what I'm wondering is how are you going to transfer those qualities of Heineken, the beer, and all of the great market value that's obviously built up over the years.
Starting point is 00:10:53 How are you going to do that in a new movie? Well, just like Heineken, I'm going to take all the right ingredients and somehow mess it up. That's what I'm going to do with that. I'm going to take all the great cast members that they appear to have somehow, and I think it's got to be blackmail in some cases,
Starting point is 00:11:12 have got into this. So you're telling me you're going to blackmail celebrities into making the Heineken equivalent of movies? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm on board. Okay, and that's how this gets made. I know, right I'm on board. Okay. And that's how this gets made. I know, right? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I don't... Wow. I mean, can we go into some plot points that you think will be a selling point for the film? I think definitely a drugged bus driver for a children's bus. I think that's a winner. I think if you could take...
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's like they've taken comedy and thought it wasn't good enough. And so had to put something else on top of comedy. Do you mean the gag they've thought of? Or comedy as a concept? As an entire concept. So in there, there are moments where you go please stop now
Starting point is 00:12:06 that's a great gag don't do anything don't do that yeah you're right because there's some accidentally hilarious moments in the film there's bound to be
Starting point is 00:12:13 you've got some of the best performers in the world in a film well some of the best performers in the world in a film there's bound to be some bits of gold
Starting point is 00:12:21 in there because those people are funny people they slip through the net it does seem like they have this quite naturally leads into to the top three uh which is another new feature where we sort of pick out a list of top three moments in the film so yeah last week it was the top three physical gags was it stunts stunts now this week what we
Starting point is 00:12:40 wanted from you tim are the top your top three belly laughs. Because I saw a few creeped out of your bloody gullet there, mate. No, that's definitely true. I don't... I really... No, in descending order. Wow. I haven't really ordered them. Make it up.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It doesn't matter. I haven't really thought them through in the linear way. I liked the PE teacher. It just made me laugh when he went, anyone want to see me climb a rope? Who wants to watch me climb a rope? I don't know if you guys have seen the movie. That's dead on.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That's exactly how he sounds. I like that. But then they had to mess it up with a wacky camera angle. Yeah. So it's like, so that was half a bellied off. it up with a wacky camera angle. Yeah. So it's like argh. So it was that was half a bellied off. I've got to
Starting point is 00:13:27 knock half off for the wacky camera angle. And then who's the guy with the son who is... Bubdy. Special. Oh, Kevin James. Kevin James. Yeah. Kevin James when he said
Starting point is 00:13:43 when his son's eating ice cream, and he just doesn't even look at him and goes, that's butter, son. That's a funny laugh. That's a funny line. And we can say this because we know the script off by heart. Now, Bean says, this is the best vanilla pudding I've ever tasted. And Kevin James says, that's not pudding, that's butter, son.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Did you not, because I've watched that. A lot? Yeah, a couple of times. Did you not think that was irresponsible parenting by Kevin James? Do you not think you shouldn't have your five-year-old boy just hoeing into a tub of butter? I'll be honest, a lot of this film is not sending out very good messages. I mean, the fact they force feed alcohol to a dog.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm glad you noticed that. Isn't it great? There's a lot of bad messages there. You can easily skip over that shot, and I think I did on my first couple of watches, but yeah. Because your mind can't believe what it's seeing. Yeah, it's cognitive dissonance.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's actually a callback, that, because the lady who's doing the bear bong to the dog, because they just needlessly introduce people and bring them back to try and send, like, lend some sense of callbacks. I don't know. But she was the mum at Kmart yelling at her kids on the way into Kmart.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Oh, right. I wasn't four kids. I didn't get that. And you wouldn't have. Honestly, it was about six or seven in when I was four. I'm like fucking viewing it on a different plane, bro. No, you really are now it's really true
Starting point is 00:15:06 yeah so we've got one and a half barely last and then the third one came almost immediately after that scene where they said that the costume party
Starting point is 00:15:16 would be 1980s themed costume party and the genius son kind of goes wow the 80s that's 70 years ago
Starting point is 00:15:26 and then Kevin James just drops his fork and that's funny no fuck it you look incredulous but I'm with you on that that made me laugh actually
Starting point is 00:15:34 so what made me laugh most in this movie was silence that's what I'm saying I appreciate the end point there but that's not funny man here's the fun fact about it's the way the kid's going hey and then he's going bang there's something about dropping there, but that's not funny, man. Here's the fun fact about... It's the way the kid's going, hey, and then he's going, bang.
Starting point is 00:15:48 There's something about dropping cutlery that's funny. Keep it. Today. You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer... Everybody run! ...ends here.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands. Now playing. Kevin James' son in this film is actually played by two boys who are twins. Identical twins. Oh, wow. Some of the Olsen twins. Oh, yeah, because that means they can do it cheaper. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And they can kind of skirt around labour laws. Oh, wow. Allegedly. Do you around labour laws. Oh, wow. Allegedly. Do you have labour laws here? I floated to Guy recently that we should try and get to a point where we can distinguish which kid is which in which scene. Oh, that's good. Try and pick out the twins.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Well, actually, I think they have got slightly different... Now you say it, I did notice they do have slightly different teeth. Oh. So I think you really could nail that. Are you fucking with us? No, I think you could. Are you just going to make us look at this kid's teeth for the next 40 weeks? We've got to pay attention to something.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I reckon the teeth could be the thing that might give it away. Okay, well, I mean, that's technically... It's two and a half belly laughs, but we'll round it up. Swedish rounding and whatnot. I mean, you also... During the movie, you had some sort of epiphany where it occurred to you that this follows some sort of traditional British filmmaking framework.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, no, yeah. I think it's, there was a thing in Britain called the carry-on films, and they were brilliant to start with. They are amazing films. Some of the first carry-on films are some of the best films ever made. What is a carry-on film? They were all called carry-on something, something, something. So it was like carry-on up the K were all called carry-on something, something, something. So it was like,
Starting point is 00:17:25 carry-on up the Khyber, carry-on on the buses. And as in a carry-on, as in a right, proper carry-on. As in a hilarious situation that spins out of control and weaves itself
Starting point is 00:17:35 into a conveniently length film. Fast. And it's not quite a fast, but it was very postcard, kind of cartoony-style humour. And it had... The cast list was stellar.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I mean, everybody that we knew and loved from the immediately post-war comedy period was in those films. People like Kenneth Williams. I think Sergeant Bilko was in one. Phil Silvers was in one. I know all these people. Kenneth...
Starting point is 00:18:04 Exactly. But it was a huge cast list. And yet, some of the later films were not great. Grown-ups, Tuzian. They were. And I think that's the thing. They've clearly got here... I mean, you have to say Adam... What's his name?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Sandler. Adam Sandler, yeah. Sandler is better. He's a bit of a genius. He's a genius because what he's worked out is essentially a way of spending time with what are clearly his mates. Yeah. And being paid an enormous amount of money. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:35 To basically just sit around and it's almost like he's come up with a Saturday Night Live pension scheme. And that's it. That's what it is. That's amazing. What is incredible is that James Acaster last week had exactly the same takeaway. He's like, because we're going, this is terrible. I mean, do you think they're having fun on set?
Starting point is 00:18:53 And he's going, fucking A, they're having fun on set. They're making a shit product they don't care about. They're just hanging out with their mates, getting paid heaps of cash. Absolutely. And I think also you can tell that because some of the lines, they don't even say them properly. So you can't actually even...
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm straining and going, what was that line? What did he actually say? And the guy's going... And the director, Dennis Dugan, who we know as the doctor in the hospital scene, is going, we need to take that again. And Chris Rock's going, fuck that. I am not here to do retakes. I'm here to get paid and leave.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And actually, the doctor's actually quite a good actor. I thought he was pretty good. He's actually playing it straight. Now, Tim Batt, I'd just like to check in with you. Obviously, it's a different vibe this week. We watched it on a computer in a room, and there's an audience for the podcast. Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:19:43 What's your mental state? How are you feeling about the whole she shebang horrible really bad i thought that this and it's been uh how many days since we did it will be eight or nine yeah yeah it's been a few um did you miss it well generally speaking tim what happens is that if we do it uh outside of the seven day regular rotate i i have a new zest for the film. That did not come through today at all. And I wasn't reinvigorated by a guest or the live audience, which thank you very much, all of you, for coming. But you've done me no good. I feel depressed. I feel nervous again. I feel very worried about the rest of the watches.
Starting point is 00:20:25 We've got 40 to go. Do you think you're going to have to just keep upping the stakes? Are you essentially going to have to watch the film by the end just to get through it? Are you going to have to do that ascent from the Sky Tower while you're watching the film just to kind of spice it up a bit and get some kind of... Well, some ideas have been postulated around certain chemical enhancements
Starting point is 00:20:43 of the watches of the films, which I don't think we'll ever, maybe some of the fun of the podcast will be we'll never explicitly say what we're on, but it's up to you to guess what we've done before we've watched it this week. Well, I do think we generally occasionally are approaching a level of delirium where it will be very difficult to tell if we are on drugs or we're, I mean, it's a weird little three-hour mental bubble that we do go into each week where you're not really engaging with the real world or society at large and i mean it's it's really nice to have people like you come into and and dip your toe in the in the grown-ups to pull break up speak it's painful monotony yeah i mean it the the material is
Starting point is 00:21:22 essential it's it's fat children. That seems to be a big, like, inspiration for a lot of the gags. Well, part of the jokes, I think, would be a more fear. Well, yeah. Push-up bras? Push-up bras appear to be a big theme. Emotions. And people with bald heads.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So it's just like, those are the three go-to. It's like, hang on a minute. Have we done a joke about one of these three, or vomit or wee, as a side thing in the last five? No, we've got to get one in. That's the bottom line. Have we not done enough of those? It's kind of a weird, it's a weird go-to thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Well, it's a weird, the tone of the movie is weird because it's not pitched at adults. It's not pitched at-to thing, isn't it? The tone of the movie is weird because it's not pitched at adults. Who are they making this movie for? I think this movie, and I was thinking about this as I was watching it, I think this movie is actually intended to be a family movie.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I think this is a movie that is intended for parents to be able to take their kids to and for both of them to laugh. So I think that's the intention. That's the only way that I can... They've missed on both targets.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They have attempted to shoot down the middle and you two guys would be the middle and not even you're laughing. So they've missed two targets, not even hit the thing in the middle. If you're aiming for the bullseye, Monty's on one side, I'm on the other of the peripheral of the bullseye target. And the arrow has gone sideways.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. I wonder actually if the whole success of this movie is that there are a lot more of these podcasts out there. And basically a whole like 52 million people are making a podcast about Grown Ups 2, and that's how it's getting the viewing figures. I mean, as a concept for a podcast, where do you see this going for us? Because when you're watching it with us, you can see our body language,
Starting point is 00:23:15 you can see how we're acting. Oh, I see it going into meds. I see it, you know, hardcore doctors being involved in this by the end. I can see we're only on, I say only, you're on 13 and you've got to get to 52. 39 to go. Exactly. Not that anyone's counting. As a joke in the film would be, that's only 70 to go.
Starting point is 00:23:36 He's got the format. That's the kind of, I mean, I just see it by the end is going to be a real, it's going to be a tearjerker. Monty, let me ask you directly. How's your mental well-being and fitness at this juncture? I mean, I'm usually pretty upbeat.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's like it's just quite a mean-spirited laugh. They can't see your eyes on the podcast. I'm just going to describe the dishevelled man sitting next to me going, I'm usually quite upbeat. And I want you all to imagine a man who, if he was slumped, like, lying down next to a bottle shop,
Starting point is 00:24:19 would not look out of place. That's how upbeat and... You're not upbeat with those guys, though? They're fucking getting it done. Look. Upbeat, lying down. I just, I just, it's, well, I said sort of, at the start I said with 39 to go, there's 39 more to go.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And that was sort of to be like, only 39 to go. But that number's so much bigger than the number of times we've watched it. You've done a Tim. I've done a Tim bat. Because I was like, you've got these benchmarks. You get through 10 or 11 and you go, well, we're a fifth of the way there. And that's how I was looking at it.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I was like, a fifth of the way there? That's so far along. But that means that we've got four-fifths of it to go. Correct, yeah. That is a much bigger number, Tim. It is. Four times, in fact, if you do the math. Correct, yeah. That is a much bigger number, Tim. It is. Four times, in fact, if you do the math.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And, I mean... Also, how many hours of your life are you going to spend on that? Oh, this is an interesting statistic, Well, three times 52, pretty much, is the situation. Why? Oh, because...
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's three hours, it's an hour 40, plus the podcast, and then you have to, I mean, I get to just walk out after we record. Tim has to go home and, like... Slap it up on an internet somewhere. Like, play all this stuff with a computer that I don't know how to just walk out after we record. To me, it's to go home and, like... Slap it up on it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, play all this stuff with a computer that I don't know how to do. On an internet somewhere. Nice. I think there's one... It was difficult... Where's the heart of this film? You guys have seen it loads. Oh, I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Okay. Because I know what you mean by that, which is kind of the spiritual heart of it, but there's a specific moment in the film where there is oh maybe there's two when Chris Rock is talking to his son saying don't go and kill yourself because you're precious cargo before he takes his driver's license
Starting point is 00:25:53 if you kill yourself I'll have to kill you there was a joke in the movie I had for the first time today which is unbelievable at this stage fuck what is the other one I don't even know why that is the heart of the movie. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Oh, I know what it is. It's Higgins. It's where Higgins is talking to his son and trying to rekindle some sort of relationship and it's a genuine moment of heart.
Starting point is 00:26:12 But then the third one I'd argue is... Monty's taking a shit. No, I just wonder is it the kicker when the little kid... So all three parent-child relationships
Starting point is 00:26:22 at the moment. I don't count that one. Well, it's right... Because the one moment you get behind the kid being the kicker, he squashes him. There's no, there's no heart,
Starting point is 00:26:32 that's not a heart of the film, Tim. That's just where they try, as an attempt at emotional resonance. That's not the heart. But I think they almost pull it off. No. So it's more like three attempts at cynical emotional blackmail.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yes. Is that what you're, that's a're... Absolutely. That's a completely correct way. There's no purpose. There's nothing redeeming. It's just a series of failed jokes. And when one joke fails for long enough,
Starting point is 00:26:54 they just do a hard cut to another set up for another failed joke. And it goes on and on. And occasionally they'll reference one of the failed jokes from before and it just keeps going until an hour and 41 minutes of your life's gone away. Okay. And Adam Sandler does a burp snart before he's going to fuck his pregnant wife. Let me stop you there, Monty. Let me, let's pull this aeroplane up.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Let's grab the wheel, let's grab the old sticks and pull it up, because it's time. It's time for the patented worst idea of all time, shining light. Just in fairness, they don't always hard cut on the jokes. It's that one that Doesn't go They cross dissolve It's definitely one
Starting point is 00:27:27 That goes nowhere at all And they just Cross dissolve it In a desperate bid To like go I It's just The editor going
Starting point is 00:27:35 I The maniacal Laughter of Steve Buscemi Yeah yeah Cross dissolves Into another scene Because they're like Well there's nothing here
Starting point is 00:27:43 Hey Hey That is one of the fun ways to watch the film is imagining the editor in the booth going
Starting point is 00:27:48 what I mean come on guys have I got all the reels isn't this the dailies are these all the ultimate takes
Starting point is 00:27:56 the editing again the editing is brilliant just like the lighting brilliant brilliant there's that one
Starting point is 00:28:03 there's that one moment where the girls meant the little daughters meant to cry hold There's that one moment where the little daughter's meant to cry. Hold that thought for one moment, because I want to preface this with the shining light. So this is the part of the podcast where we say a genuine moment of the film where we enjoy it. I should have said that. A part of the movie which we genuinely enjoy. I'm sure I will try. I'm sure I will try. I'm sure I'll try.
Starting point is 00:28:28 There's the moment... The reason I think the editing is so good, I don't know if you noticed, but when the girl is meant to cry because she's lost her... Mr. Gigglesworth? The monkey to the deer, this doesn't make sense, even when I'm saying it.
Starting point is 00:28:44 When she's meant to cry, she clearly can't cry as an actress. And there's a quick cut. Hands off Becky Fader, mate. Have you noticed that? She is a torture force in this film. And then they cut immediately. They literally go, it clearly doesn't pan out for her in the crying stage. I can't believe you because I think she's probably the finest actor in the film.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Exactly. That's my point. There we go. probably the finest actor in the film. Exactly. That's my pick. There we go. You've hit it on the head. Okay, so now... The Shining Light. The Shining Light. The Shining Light.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The Shining... Who wants to go first? I wrote it down, but I've sweated it off, and now I can't remember what it was. The Shining Light. Shit, what does it say? I wrote it on my hand. I shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's... My Shining Light, it wasn't really to do with the movie, it just changed the viewing, it say? I wrote it on my hand. I shouldn't have done that. My shining light, it wasn't really to do with the movie, it just changed the viewing, was finding out that Arnold Schwarzenegger's son plays one of the frat boys and is one of the worst actors in the world. I mean, it would be interesting to research and see,
Starting point is 00:29:39 did he go to a frat, whatever that is, and if so, is he essentially just being asked to play himself and is clearly unable to do that? That would be what I'd like to know. Was he the progeny of Schwarzenegger with the house? No, no, it's not the
Starting point is 00:29:56 maid. It's the actual wife. You think Schwarzenegger would give his love child his very distinguishable surname? Yes, A and B. It's like Higgins, though. It's like he's trying to make it up to him. Publicise him in a film. That seems a bit tactless to his wife.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I mean, no longer, maybe, I don't know. Are they, who can say? This thing's going off the rails. Shining light for you, Tim. Shining, shining light. Struggling. Shining light. He's struggling.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Oh, I know know I've got it It was that moment where the policeman Does a Starsky and Hutch jump across the bonnet of the car And caves the bonnet of the car That's got to be one of your belly laughs You were losing it That's funny
Starting point is 00:30:40 That made me laugh Genuinely destroying the bonnet of the car The problem they've thing with that, the problem they've got with that policeman character, who is, I think he's got some of the best moments, is that all of the jokes that he does have been done in Police Academy by Hightower. It's the same jokes.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's exactly the same jokes. But at the end of that, Shaq... Big tall policeman, same thing. Tim, you're shining light, please. Oh, God. I've been trying to think of one. Come on, just figure out what's on your hand. Oh, I can't.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That's illegible. I can't read out that at all. Awkward? Yeah. Is that what this is? Did it say awkward? Well, that word's just. Just?
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I think that's dead. This is a good listening experience, this part. Yeah. I'm going to go with... I quite like the bit where they break and the bus driver smashes into the back of the bus. They killed Nick. It's like, you've killed a man.
Starting point is 00:31:32 That's quite funny. No, they haven't killed him. They have definitely killed him. What I'm noticing... He's heavily medicated. In all of your moments, it's a physical moment that doesn't involve dialogue, almost exclusively.
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, as I said to you, the silence is the best bit in this film. You know, I'm going to stand by that. My shining light today is part of that monstrous scene that takes place inside of a Kmart where... There's a lot of Kmart, by the way. Oh, my goodness, is there what? We have delved into this in previous episodes.
Starting point is 00:32:01 They definitely paid for a bit of the movie. Which I think you actually initially brought up a couple of episodes ago, Monty, where Adam Sandler comes up to Higgins and says... Hey, crocodile dumb D, how'd it go with the kid? That's the line. That is the fucking line. You know it.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And it's a fine and brief and rare moment of talented acting by Adam Sandler in this film. That's a gem buried amongst other stuff. Because there's an entire bit where he goes, Kmart, Kmart, Kmart, Kmart. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Kmart, Kmart. They get paid by the mention. It's like, yeah, I think, I don't know if we said this in a previous podcast, but it's like how Shortland Street
Starting point is 00:32:38 has to use a certain amount of te reo Māori to get funding from New Zealand. Is that right? I think that's right. And I think that growing-ups, too, had to mention K-Mart a certain amount of times.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Same sort of thing. It's appalling. How are we going for time? No, it's done. We're done here. The only thing I could think of, the only thing I wanted to finish my set, or not finish my set,
Starting point is 00:32:57 but the one thing I did want to say is that at the end, where there's that massive fight scene going on and the band just carry on playing. The Jaguars band. They carry on playing. Chris Rock's daughter singing. The only thing I could think of was this is like being on the
Starting point is 00:33:13 Titanic. This is how they must have felt as they saw the iceberg hoving into view. Yes. And like the people were playing and I felt like the three of us Were on the deck Of the Titanic
Starting point is 00:33:27 Hurtling towards The end of something Terrible And that was my only Sort of feeling about that What a journey What a fitting metaphor To wrap up the episode
Starting point is 00:33:37 Tim thank you so much Tim for time ladies and gentlemen Thank you Bloody brilliant So much more don't play it into the mic you're fucking
Starting point is 00:33:47 going to peak it out you can see the sound waves there I really fucked that up guys thank you very much for
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Starting point is 00:34:10 Tim, you want to say anything while you're here? Yeah, I quite like the bit where the... Please. Where the hormonal woman threw the beer keg in the guy's head. That's quite funny. There you go. And on that note, thank you for listening. Catch you next week. This has been a live record of the worst idea of all time.
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