The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Twenty - Corry

Episode Date: July 16, 2015

Tim and Guy are back on the couch and this week joined by professional film reviewer Dom Corry of TheGoodInMovies.com and BOY IS HE FIRED UP! Having followed the TV series across its many seasons, Dom brings a knowledge, enthusiasm and articulation rarely heard on this God-forsaken project. It's a refreshing change of pace and one that Tim is constantly battling against. Meanwhile Guy's taking a backseat and tricking Mr Corry on the extra-circular (and very spiritual) activities of 'Sex' cast members. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the worst idea of all time It's the worst idea of all time It's the worst idea of all time Of course the fun is only just beginning Right now in episode 20 Congratulations Of this season of the worst idea of all time Season 2 long Dom this clearly can't be that bad it's been very well it's been about the right amount of time I think that's possibly true I was talking to guy earlier about like even though I only did it once I learned a lot of lessons and drew conclusions which is how like all the best stuff happens when you're watching the movie and then when you record the podcast afterwards all the bon mots have evaporated you talked through the entire picture Dom and I know that you've seen the movie before

because you're a movie reviewer by trade. You're a professional movie reviewer. I riffed through the entire picture. So did you. I'm at 40% max. You were riffing and skitting. You were riffing and skitting a lot though, man. You came in with several brass instruments and just started blowing.

Well, look. It's an amazing film. I have to respond equally amazingly. Big. It's a big film. I feel big. I responded big. Speaking of big. I didn't talk that amazingly. Big. It's a big film. I feel big. I responded big. Speaking of big.

I didn't talk that much. Come on. You were talking, you quietened down towards the end there, but it's fine. I'm not going to penalise you for that. The movie has legs. It ran you out of steam.

I'll tell you, I may not have spoken a lot, but you did tell me to shut up quite a lot. Yeah. So that probably says something about how much I did talk. I'm probably not realising how much I did talk, because you wouldn't have said that out of the blue. I know it's ridiculous to the outsider,

but I'm very into the integrity of this project. We need to engage with the film each time. No, no, totally. It's just on in the background. I respect that. What's the point? I just was excited to be here, frankly, and should have just chilled out.

But I did. You seem pretty deep behind the eyes now. I respect your respect for the integrity of it, and I think that's an essential part of it and as I also said one of the lessons I learnt that the true magic happens before we get around to recording the poster it's that experience of watching the film together that I'll always remember

not the bit that's recorded that was beautiful thanks anyway see you later bye Dom what I was going to say is speaking of big bookmark that for like 90 seconds I can't believe I said that. I called the film that without realising what I was doing. What do you mean?

Calling it big and saying I had to respond big. And we were moaning about how that guy's called big. Yeah, exactly. Because, oh, I can't remember who brought it up. Someone. Might have been me, actually. Probably you, actually. Yes, Dom.

It just annoyed me how, or didn't annoy me. You called him Mr. Big and I was like, no one ever got. They call him Mr. Big in the show, don't they? No, it's never, it's always big. Right. If it if it was mr big it would kind of be like okay because mr big dick is a funny illusion though mr big dick i mean i don't want to sound super ignorant because watching the show and i did watch the show for most of its life i always thought that they were treading a line there between the idea that you know he's some kind of titan of industry the traditional mr big but also yes he has a large penis yeah yeah totally and then sort of several seasons like big this big that i was like okay he's got a big dick we

get it yeah anyway it didn't really matter to me but um they're still calling him that and they revealed that his name was john John. I think it's pronounced Juan. I don't think it is, John. I'm pretty sure he's... It's spelled Juan. They revealed that he was Colombian, right? That's why he's got those giant black furry eyebrows. They're pretty impressive, his little brows.

Is his name Chris Knoth? I always said Chris Knoth until a few years ago when I heard someone on Entertainment Tonight say Chris Noth. And now I say Chris Noth. The good thing about it is it doesn't matter because he's not any fucking other thing. He's trained as a pastor now.

That is a lie. No, he's a minister. I think he meant the dish. He is a successful actor. For a leading man who never became a star, he's had a lot of high-profile roles. He's changed his name to Chris Noworth. No way. Pastor Chris Noworth.

No, I had no idea. He's working out of San Bernardino. Well, you know he was one of the main Law and Order guys when that show was in its initial prime. Hold on for a second. That's not true. A cult or a church? It's a small church.

No, he's just doing it so he can marry his friends, right? He doesn't have any followers. Come on, seriously? Yeah, he's got small church. No, he's just doing it so he can marry his friends, right? He doesn't have any followers. Come on, seriously? Yeah, he's got like 400. You can watch him online. Sam Bernardini. That's so cool. That's such a cool place to have a church.

Mike from Law and Order. Really? He preaches friendship. Does he? Does he like his tenant? The bland and safe new husband from Castaway that Helen Hunt... Is that him?

Is that Beck? Yeah, he's the new husband He cites all of his character's lines in his sermons as like... I had no idea he was such a nutball. So his sermons are mostly like him explaining the speeches he's given and the lines he's performed

as characters on television. I'll tell you one thing. Dick Wolf, the executive producer of all the Law & Order shows, would not have stood for that while he was a Law & Order cast member. I just be ruled with an iron thumb, apparently. But maybe Pastor Chris Knoth has made old Wolfie see the light now. He works pretty regularly. He's not an actor who sort of would need

the money or anything he only needs to be free on a Sunday he's not doing it for money I don't know why I presumed that he was in it for false reasons because he's an actor

it's a belief system Dom some people choose to believe in something no no it's his eyebrows that make me suspicious of his motives the beauty of it is

you could work as an actor six days a week and just give your sermon on Sunday and you can claim to be both things I think he's researching a role he flies his reverend chris noah he flies under a like a flying name because he's a flight yeah he's the implied husband from the tv show the good wife what do you mean implied well he's

the one that she's the wife of because the show is called the good wife and it's about a woman and he's the you make it sound like he's imaginary well it's sort of like you could say he's the wife of. Because the show is called The Good Wife and it's about a woman and he's... You make it sound like he's imaginary. Well, it's sort of like, you could say he's the title character by implication. Because a wife isn't a wife without a husband. They keep calling him big, this character. It's just annoying.

It's kind of annoying. I really do love the fact that he's got a church out there in the real world. That's fantastic news. That is mind-blowing and I'm only 99% believing you feel i can't tell if he's taking shit no it's gonna see how long he's gonna string it out for and it turns out i mean 90 i mean 9.9 i 90.1 don't believe you but my point being they keep calling him big as an illusion to like he's mr big dick in the same way that we say stuff sucks now, and that is shorthand for it.

It sucks dick. And it's funny because everyone says it. You know, like anyone who refers to Big as Big is alluding to him being, hey, hey, big dick. Yeah. Hey, big penis. Hey, guy with the massive genitals.

I think that's why it annoyed me because it went from being a narrative device, which is how the storytelling in the show was driven first. The first season of the show had Vox Pop things, people talking about sex. Fuck off, did it? I'm pretty sure it did. No. No, it did.

I like that. It was scripted Vox Pop, but it was like people on the street going, yeah, I don't like it when she puts her finger up my ass or something. So it was like a real Confessional style Sort of But scripted Just be careful You've got a lot of

Pot plants behind you Which is a weird thing You have a comically Large amount of Pot plants on a ledge Behind you I feel like I'm deep In a jungle

On an island At Universal Studios I put you in a weird zone But honestly If you lean back You're going to destroy Thousands of dollars Surrounded by

A lot of flora I won't Lean back Or fauna Which is which Just don't put on that song of dollars surrounded by a lot of flora i won't lean back which is which just don't put on that song a lot of animals behind lean back uh anyway don't play that song dom i'd like to ask you at this stage in the game i can't believe i semi-believed you about that past thing he's a very successful actor no very successful actor does that i mean i can see if he was like, if it was, you know, an actor who wasn't anyway. But what's notable about his fame is he clearly had a ceiling on his fame

because he's well known enough and he's had enough high profile roles to be an A-lister, but he just has no magnetism whatsoever. So he can't be a movie star. Try saying that to the bloody members of his church, Don. Yeah, or the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who's handpicked him to lead us into a new age. I am currently saying it to them because they're his church, Don. Yeah, or the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ whose hand picked him to lead us into a new age.

I am currently saying it to them because they're all in your head. I'd like to see you say that to Jesus Christ. I'm not sure if it's no-th or no-th. No-th. I've forgotten. Pastor Chris No-th. When he converted, he changed the pronunciation.

Dom, here's the question I'd like to ask you. Oh, sorry, I totally cut you off when you started asking me this. It's fine. It's fine. What was your shining light of the watch of the movie? What was your favourite bit of this film? The bit I reflected on the most.

Yeah. It's weird that I just said that as I was looking at the word classic reflections on that poster. Mine's more of a contemporary reflection. In a month or so, it'll be classic. Anyway, it's actually the bit I thought about most when I first saw the film. I'm a very positive film watcher it's actually the bit I thought about most when I first saw the film. And the reason I,

like I'm a very positive film watcher and I sort of reject the idea of any films being good or bad or being accessible on any level. But it's one of the only way to make a living talking and writing about films. You've got to give it the stars, Dom. Well, I'm not going to do that. But it's the reason I kind of don't like the film

and I'll take any film on its own terms. I'll meet any film with what it's trying to do. And the reason I thought this film failed is because of the scene. It's emblematic of the issue. The scene is the, when they do the karaoke, because it's something that no film, a film has to go do a lot of things to earn the right to congratulate itself.

And that's the most self congratulatory scene I've ever seen ever seen a movie it's only halfway through it's the centerpiece of the film it's a how great are we scene that george clooney film monuments men um which was all about these people trying to save artworks and what's a very nice sounding idea it was a super bland film 10 minutes into the film a guy's raising i was actually saying to the monuments man and it's like self-congratulatoryness if that's a word just you really got to do something pretty special to get to that point that's something you do as an after the credits gag in the third sequel you say you say something that acknowledges what you are and how what you're doing and what yeah you're known for they they just they just get there and they just go what what should we have them do?

I know they'll sing a karaoke standard about how great they are. And it just felt, that's when it really became a Spice Girls music video for me. It was them empowering themselves in a foreign climate as well. I know you just said a lot of words then. Sorry, did that answer your question no I'm just so transfixed

by the poster now was that there before when you were talking this poster the classic reflections poster there is more narrative sort of appeal in that picture

than there was in the film we just watched the poster is like A2 size and it's a beautiful print is that on glass see through it's sort of a semi holographic because it's a beautiful print. Is that on glass, see-through? It's sort of a semi-holographic kind of silvery material.

Because it's curvy, is it cardboard? I think it's just a bit warped maybe over the years. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. It's in a beautiful silver frame, and it's kind of like a Catalina, but big. I'm not sure what you call a seaplane that's that big. I don't think any of them have five propellers. No propellers on the top there.

It's not real. There's no way you've got a five-propeller seaplane. This is clearly a picture from an alternate dimension where they have five propeller. Five propellers on the top there. It's not real. There's no way you've got a five propeller seaplane. This is clearly a picture from an alternate dimension where they have five propeller seaplanes. It's an illustration, I might add. It's not a photo. And it's done in a very

kind of Miami Vice sort of aesthetic. The font is kind of sort of like Van Halen meets Miami Vice. The picture, I would say, is a bit more 70s. Almost going back to a kind of James Bond-y kind of... It's pretty great.

I have no idea what it's a poster for. It just occurred to me. What is it advertising? It doesn't matter. It says Mirage Editions Spring. I have no idea what it is. Classic Reflections. You know what I realise what it is?

It's a poster for really great posters That look like that They used to sell them As conversation starters You just put them up In your house And people would start Looking at them and talking I've heard of this company

But they went It just happened They went bust right We didn't even need to hang it We started getting Too many pictures on the internet And they couldn't compete Well yeah yeah

Well that's I mean The internet's kind of Crashed the market A lot of people talk about The dot com boom Of the early 2000s Not a lot of people talk about the dot-com boom of the early 2000s. Not a lot of people talk about all the businesses that got steamrolled. Do you guys reckon it's landing or taking off?

Because it's quite a lot out of the water. It's definitely landing. Yeah, there's a lot of spray coming. Wouldn't it be? Oh, no, they don't come down nose first. What am I saying? It's on submarine. Look, anyway.

Sorry. We've got to talk about this. It's a great poster. No one's arguing about the poster No it's been there Did you position it just there So I'd notice it You're messing with me right

It came with the house You're messing with yourself mate You can't move it You've got no one to blame but you Tim what was your shining light During this screening of Sex and the City 2 Definitely Shit

I've forgotten his name again Brady The guy at the front desk Of No Brady the Rat King's name Should never be forgotten He should be celebrated for generations Shit, I've forgotten his name again. Brady? No, Brady the Rat King's name should never be forgotten. He should be celebrated for generations. All hell Brady. Dom.

All hell Brady. That's right. No, no, no. It's the guy at the front desk at the hotel. Boudon? Badoon. Badoon is his name. He's the guy who is in front of the three shake or possibly just hotel owner portraits.

He's calling out to tell the girls, you've bloody got to front up 22 large ones. He's calling up to tell the girls You bloody got a Front up 22 large Large ones He's one of those guys Who's got Decks for fingers Penis fingers

Penis fingers He's got it going on Did you see that He's kind of haughty Did you see the fingers On that bay dune I heard you say that Big old dick fingers

And then I didn't look At his fingers And then there was No more shots of his fingers You were missing out friend But wasn't Were they close ups Could have been a hand Double His face wasn't shot It was when he was On the phone to Samantha and then there was no more shots of his fingers. You were missing out, friend. But were they close-ups?

Could have been a hand double. His face wasn't shot. It was when he was on the phone to Samantha. It was kind of like a mid. Right. Could have been a digital CGI face replacement stuntman situation. You brought this up. Yeah, a lot. No, that was something else.

No, no. But we can talk about that. Okay, yeah. Let's talk about digital de-aging. It's something that happens happens in cinema it's not talked about it's so obvious in some movies the one that always sticks out to me is um it's it was cameron diaz in a film in which he plays it's one of those ensemble romantic comedies like an american love actually like just like valentine's day yeah what's the same

directory you always those holidays during a mother's day one Yeah, yeah. It's the same directory you always us hold as New Year's Eve. It's doing a Mother's Day one. Yeah. Can you believe that's really straight-air Mother's Day? That's like a Mad Magazine parody of those things. They would do one like Arbor Day or something. That is really testing the limits, eh? Imagine if that genre proliferates to the point

where there's one called Waitangi Day. Adam Sandler will make one called Father's Day as a retaliatory move against Mother's Day. It'll be the most misogynistic thing you've ever seen in your life. And it'll be one of the Netflix seven that he penned. He's like, I got a new idea. I'm going to make that real quick. He pretty much has already made that film.

It's called Who's Your Daddy? Oh, no, they changed it before it got released to That's My Boy. That's My Boy is supposed to be quite funny. I actually, I'm a defender of it. I've vocally defended it on the Grown Ups 2 season of this show. A lot of people are like, you like it. I like it. It's funny.

Andy Samberg's funny. He's a funny guy. You can't lose if he's in your film, really. You can always lose a film. So anyway, there's digital facelifting. Yeah, so anyway, it's something that, because, you know know with high def cameras you know i i lament the high resolution revolution because whoa i can't believe i got that out

without messing it up well you kind of fucked it up when you referenced it i had to stop and appreciate it doing it again um high def cameras you know like the flaws on people's faces used to be part of the the hazy gauze of cinema you know like your own worst enemy the um you know, like the flaws on people's faces used to be part of the hazy gores of cinema. You know, like your own worst enemy. The, you know, the way celluloid, the way light is imprinted on celluloid makes people look a certain way. And if you light them a certain way, you can kind of cover up what people really, really look like up close. But now with these cameras, every tiny thing. So the reaction to that has been like, you know how it's just basically the modern version of how in the golden age the all the old dames had

um forward watch that pop line oh my god oh my god come back towards me real slowly that one's about to we're about to lose oh they are all really tiny i wasn't lying man i thought it was like a really big one that was gonna look out for them pop up i'm gonna move the chair thank you guys you're gonna chuck that over um i shouldn't'm going to move the chair. Thank you, guys. You're going to chuck that over here. I shouldn't have tried to act out this wig thing. It's okay, Dom. But, you know, like Joan Crawford and them, they would have these things on their head that would pull up their foreheads

and tighten the skin on their face under their wigs. It was very, very standard practice. And it's just a version of that where they apply a CGI smoothening to people's faces shot by shot. And if you notice it, it hasn't done its job. But I'm very attuned to it. And I'm probably seeing it where it's not happening sometimes. But I know that I've seen it a bit.

You thought it was littered. You see it better when there's no one else around to sit with you. You see your bed. No, if you think about it, it's something that I don't think it's denied. But it's probably something that the actresses don't want to go on about. But sometimes you're just like, oh boy. And it's sort of almost just been driven by the studio's desire to not release anything that has anything that remotely points out

what people actually look like kind of thing. What did you think of my theory that in the middle of it, Cynthia Knight, Kim Cattrall, has got a facelift? I actually think that the oddities that you notice were a result of CGI cheeks smoothing gone wrong yeah gone to it's too far like a conspiracy idea like it's it's something that happens you just I mean CGI so I didn't you know obvious well yeah I never know conspiratorial real serious as you guys And such hushed tones. I never... I feel conspiratorial. This is a real serious issue, guys.

Well, it's sort of because, to me... I never notice it. Well, if it's been done well, you shouldn't. It just means that someone had a bad skin day. In the old days, it wouldn't have shown up on film. Nowadays, it does. And so they smooth it over. You're boiling this down too much, though, mate.

You're skipping over the... I don't know about you guys....lying and using digital technology to lie you're skipping over because i don't know about you guys and using digital technology to lie to all of us i don't know about you guys god damn ticket i want to see the human being if i if i wanted to see a computer i'd stay home and watch reruns of reboot thank you very much you know what i'm saying well i understand it because if i see a single female in a movie that i don't want to procreate with right then and there i i throw down the dvd or the movie ticket and i storm out of whatever i'm doing you're playing by their rules this is that's what they want you that's the idea though the secret to winning any war is being a

being in charge of the battlefield you got to define the terms i will not engage with this film on its own terms you asked me a question at the start you were like uh who are you most attracted to out of the four girls and i was like no that's the game they want me to play i can't believe that you've revealed that i asked that really obvious question i'm really sorry i'm embarrassed about that actually and um guy had sold me down the river last week so it's just like a pay it forward thing okay all right what you said what did you say something something about sex or something um no well it's something that i did watch the show when it was on because it was back in the day when it was a it was a

true representation of something that all hbo comedies delivered which was nude scenes and when you sort of when you didn't have sky or anything there wasn't a lot of that around I'm talking about pre-internet era and kind of not pre-internet but like dial-up era

when it took ages for a picture to load yeah but it was a filthy as show and it was and it was actually dial-up internet

it's something that get mom off the phone I gotta use this line the reason the reason I gotta use this line The reason The reason I sort of Was taking it maybe A bit seriously before I'm gonna get these

I'm staying with my thread Hey I'm Steve You wanna hear how to spell job It's not how you think He accentuates his His blue collar Every man's status 15% too much

I think that character Give you a clue It starts with a G He kind of like yes he probably is a little bit more articulate when he's at family dinners but when he's like i'm a bit this is very still on anyway yeah so i said before that i made every film on its own terms and then i proceeded to waste this one yeah um i only did that because i kind of i did actually care about these characters at one point. The show was good, and the show came about in a time when being that frank about sex

was kind of healthy and positive, and they justified all their... It was like a Clio sealed section. They justified their nudiness with an educational... Not really educational, but the show was irritating because of the way it was structured around Carrie's... From what I've heard, it was a hell of a show. was funny it was it was pretty good and it was kind of and what i actually loved

about it the most is that it was a really beautiful ode to friendship because the strongest thing in that show was the four of them meeting for their lunches doing the thing and the guys would come and go big was there for a lot of it he wasn't there he was not for a lot of it and it wasn't a foregone conclusion that they were going to end up together when they ended up together that was kind of to me it was like because they ran out of ideas the show's most transcendent observations were about your friends being there for you when the romance in your life is bad and stuff like that and that was actually kind of quite well realized and they first compromised that by when the show ended they turned it into being all about whether or not her and big would end up together and then it became it's like the girls ended up she was like go get our girl and the big thing was like the girls wanted them to be together because they were all warning her off

going back to him in the series finale and then she did and it was like great the move first movie and it was like okay you've kind of slightly undermined this idea that friendship is a beautiful, wonderful thing. There's like every single show in the world reinforces the kind of monogamous wish fulfillment fantasy ending. I was like, what I liked about the Sex and the City show as it was going on was that it actually was an alternative to that a bit. It was kind of like, no, the ultimate beautiful thing sometimes is the friend. And then there was like, oh, but you won't be happy unless you get the guy that we think most people would like you to end up with. You know? I'm fearful that at the end of the worst idea of all time when we run out of cool ideas,

me and Guy will have to get together romantically just to satisfy the fans. No, well, that's the thing. It was like all the fans were like, oh, great. But to me, it was sort of like it almost undermined the point of the show and then the movie just recycled that same conflict kind of was about carrie and big get married i guess or then there's a big do they or don't they and then this one was like crisis in the carrie and big town and it was just kind of like that with every further extension they've moved further and further away from what was truly actually kind of beautiful about the original show to begin with, which was the solid core between these four very different people.

Not to take it too seriously. No, no, no. That was an excellent analysis of it. It just seems to make it a shame that we don't get to experience any of that. Because Guy and I are getting it. It's a very beautiful and illuminating way of saying, yeah, I mean, you're missing out on something pretty good. Yeah, we are.

You're picking at the carcass of a once great animal. Hey, speaking of ensemble rom-coms, you know how does that work? I believe it's pronounced ensemble, but go on. Ensemble com rom. Com de rom. Correct, as the French say. Or correctamundo.

There's one called In Spanish Because you don't pronounce The final T on most French words It's the next minute of correct It is There's one called He's just not that into you Which is based on a book

That was written by Two Sex and the City writers It was written by Who first introduced the idea In a Sex and the City episode Gregory He's a comic He's a good comic

He's in Melbourne Oh that guy who we were going to try so he was at the Melbourne Comedy Fest and we were going to try and sit down and do an ep with him

because he co-wrote heaps of the series what? that was two chicks now there's a guy involved in the series real early on he wasn't

he's just not into you he wrote that yeah a guy yeah a guy doesn't write that book it's a book

clearly written from the perspective of a bitter, rejected woman. Yeah, it's okay. People take on different genders all the time in their literature and in life. Anyway, so I just wanted to make that connection. Quick shout out to Chelsea Manning. I know that you're a massive fan and I'm a massive fan of yours. Can we just talk about the negative space that's underneath Aidan's lip

where I keep thinking there's going to be a soul patch when I'm moving my eyes down his face, but there isn't. I look at his eyes it's like there's a soul patch there but when I go to look at it's gone I'm pretty sure they removed his soul patch digitally in post production because some one person at a test screening in Van Nuys California when I don't like Aiden's soul patch it makes him look yucky yeah and they were like okay okay soul patches are over guys we gotta we've shut this too long ago. We've got to get rid of the soul patch. You reckon you could crack the case on this one? It looked weird, right? I thought it might have been because it was so entrenched in the actual flesh.

The pocket of flesh underneath where the soul patch had grown was essentially fused. And so they actually had to burn it out using a tiny little... The shadows and the dimples. Some of the angles in this film support your idea no it's actually but I actually I looked it up on my phone

in between the movie and the podcast and it's a holographic tattoo he got so because it was like a he always it was a compromise he had to make with his partner

oh it's one of those tattoos shave it off okay I'll shave it off I'll shave it off forever and get a holographic tattoo I've heard about them you can specify a demographic that you only want to see it

so only people between like 20 and 30 will see it so. You can specify a demographic that you only want to see it, eh? So only people between like 20 and 30 will see it. So only people who still think a soul patch is cool will see it. And everyone over 30 will still respect you. But to me, I think I was just expecting to be there because his face is kind of rounder and smoother now. It looks more like an egg. And it's calling out for the soul patch,

for there to be something to grab onto. It's because that's what you want to see. You're part of the demographic that's been identified to want to see an egg-shaped head he said this is a whole apparatus that he's used to be that eggy he's got a three-dimensional holographic age-specific vision that he's chucking out there i the patent's amazing i don't know how they came up with this invention but no one's touching that for 20 years have you guys have you guys talked about northern exposure on this podcast why would we why would we the only thing I know about Northern Exposure is the theme song,

which was awesome. Well, I just figured, yeah, you guys are probably too young, but that was a very important show for me, especially because David Chase cut his teeth on it. Who's David Chase? You just keep throwing... He went on to create The Sopranos. Yeah, but how does this relate to Sex and the City 2?

Well, Aiden was one of the main characters on Northern Exposure. He was Chris the DJ, and he was this insufferably cool kind of hippie um philosophizer who was sort of like really annoying this is another example of a better thing that we could be watching that are not northern exposure is great i've heard that actually it's kind of a bit coy but aiden was kind of good on that but he was a believable kind of slightly mystically wise type character but he's lost all of that now rocking the soul patch then he had like yeah and he had a mullet and and a five o'clock shadow beard now is this original soul patch or holographic projection soul patch well i just realized i think i could only see it

because i was under 30 when i saw that show yeah and the camera works that way too so i just realized i think i could only see it because i was under 30 when i saw that show yeah there we go the camera works that way too so i just if i watch those reruns it wouldn't be there anymore live and you learn monty what's your shining light for this watch this 20th this joyous 20th 20th occasion uh let's let's call it uh brady just hammering away on his game boy uh supposedly but what is actually a pretty developed for 2010 Palm Pilot on which he's more or less pulling up old drawings of the sewers beneath New York. Even they were extinct by 2010. Ah, mate, the pre, look it up.

Did you think it was an Apple Newton for a while? Look, don't question Brady's ways. Sorry, I forgot he's the mole king. I mean, something. Come on. Come on, mate. This is I forgot he's the mole king. I mean, something. Come on. Come on, mate. This is important stuff. Brady the rat king.

Anyway, he was hammering away there. He was up to no good. He knew what he was doing. He was figuring out where to put explosives beneath, you know, in the pipes underneath parts of New York. He's looking at blueprints. Yeah.

He's checking out some schematics. Yeah. Some city plans. I said mole king because he's very similar to a Fantastic Four villain called the Mole Man, which you clearly are Have you heard of that That phrase

When you think of an idea But it's something You already knew And you forgot You already knew Dom I feel like You're accusing us Of plagiarising by accident

I kind of am You're a real son of a bitch You come into our No no You listen to me Dominic Corey You walk into our dojo Throw around things

Like Brady the Mole King. I would never have said plagiarism. And then accuse us. It's called something like- You accuse the senseis of stealing shit and not even having the self-awareness to know that we are stealing shit. No, I firmly believe- How dare you? I'm not.

I firmly believe that everything that came before becomes part of the language you're interpreting. I was just identifying the origins of what your homage. This is not what it sounds like to me. I don't like your tone. And frankly, next time you come to the dojo, you can take your goddamn shoes off and bow to the censor. When did it become a dojo? That's the first time you've used that word.

I thought it was a... It's a lounge. Bow to the survey. I mean I was trying to think of what like The Krav Maga version of a dojo is But I just don't know It's probably still a dojo

No, no way It'll be like Temple Or something That's also what the Shaolin one is Anyway, back to Brady the Raccoon's Plan on the palm tree That was more or less the

The shining light But while we are in the cafe It makes a It makes a lot of sense it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. Hey! Take that. Take that for a walk.

Take the bass. Take the bass around the block. I'm the scat man I'm the scat man what is he doing what's he up to off to so

we pointed him out to you Dom the coffee drinking maniac sitting just behind the girls while they're having a catch up

at the cafe the buzzfeed recipe kind of guy. Yeah, that's right. The guy who... Cut together. He's like so quick. Everything happens. Boom, boom, boom.

He's out of there. You know, like when you see those BuzzFeed recipes that take like 10 seconds and you see it like there's like a cucumber that's suddenly sliced up and then it goes in a blender

and then like three seconds later it's a pie. It's like, oh, I caught all that. Because everything else is existing in him in real linear time. I know. Except him.

I just used, that's my current go-to reference point for something that's accelerated to comic effect. I'm going to put you in that camp at the moment, Dom. But I actually thought you were originally referencing when you started that scat session. Yeah. Not everything's a reference. Some things are original material.

No, no. Not adhering to an existing property, you son of a bitch. I thought because you guys had that debate about whether or not Miranda was going, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, at some point. I thought you were going to evolve into that. But do you know how I said, I'm the scat man? And you guys remember that song, eh? Yeah.

Where a guy was like, I'm the scat. Isn't that in Boosh? Is that a Boosh thing? Probably. I think it was Yellow. Who did that? The band. Oh, yeah. Boom, boom. D-Bow-Bow. is that a boosh thing probably I think it was yellow who did that the band oh yeah

boom boom look I really want to dig back into what our man's up to yeah so I would love to I would love to know Dom in your humble opinion

why exactly this guy needs to consume that much coffee at that pace and then get out of there it's a funny scene it's a funny moment but it's not that weird

I've been that guy I've been in that much of a rush and I've had to scowl the coffee why? I'll tell you what what could possibly be the next thing? well because you're going to risk burning your throat

the top of your mouth for which is a real nuisance you've just fucked your mouth up no no no a little blister on top of your mouth I've thought long tonguing that all day you just wouldn't order the coffee

in the first place don't touch the wound with your tongue it doesn't make any sense just leave it it'll heal faster that way I've thought long and hard about the specific nightmare

that involves eating coffee in a rush. I mean, sipping coffee without taking your time. It's horrible. I hate it. It's like trying to eat soup

in a hurry. It just does not work, which is why it's important that you guys recognize this theory I've developed about that scene, which is that

he actually ordered an espresso shot. They just brought it in a big cup because they kind of messed up. And that's how I do an espresso when I'm in a rush. I'll just have an espresso.. They just brought it in a big cup because they kind of messed up. And that's how I do an espresso when I'm in a rush. I'll just have an espresso.

I have one, two, three, gone. It's not rushing. It's an espresso shot. You're there to kind of have a few shots. He's your brethren. You identify with this gentleman. He was like, he was going to get a text from his mate

when they were waiting outside and the coffee took a bit longer than he thought. He had his first sip. He felt the phone vibrate in his pocket. He was like, oh, that'll be Philip who I'm meeting. No, no, no, that's not it. He has to drink that shot so quickly because his phone's going because it's reminding him

that he's got to go over to the boys' place and watch Sex and the City 2 to do an unspeakable podcast with them. Well, the point is he has to go quickly. You are a coffee guy. Dom Corby is him. It actually just happened a moment ago. You were there and you were there.

Wow. That's so crazy. But you know, it's not that crazy that he could have three sips of his coffee. It was a big cup, granted, but that place looked kind of run off their feet. They had these four really demanding bitches in the middle of the table.

They wanted to all sit facing each other in awkward angles, and they realize it's three to a side and and they would making demands about and no drink no I'm just sorry no I don't like that I scored them bitches I do like them well I like that you've come up with the solo espresso shot theory yeah yeah it's like a nice plausible yeah I mean yeah also he heard those wenches harping on he was like i gotta get the hell out of here i think they drove him away go catch up with philip he saw that um samantha was about to reveal something sexually frank and he couldn't deal with it he smelled the pheromones

i'd also like to address how they bring back aiden they bring aiden in for the second movie he wasn't in the first movie because he was like in many people's eyes the second most important love interest on that show and if they were going to bring anyone back, it would be him. But I wish they'd brought back some of the other ones. Some randos. Some of the other people she went out with on that show who were notable, like, do you guys watch Mad Men? No.

Well, the Silver Fox from that, Roger Sterling was on that and he played a guy, he was like a senator in a scene that was typically kind of shocking and interesting in a way that the movies never have been um he he he asked carrie he was dating her if he could pee on her and she said no it surprises me how often those sexual urination stories pop up yeah like in real life she said no and then he dumped her so she wrote about it in a column and he was aspiring

like he was a politically aspirant. Oh, wow. And she went and everyone knew they were dating. She didn't name him but because everyone knew they were dating

she was like, can't run for office if you're a pill. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. The stakes are pretty low if this guy's a political aspirant. I'm going to ruin you. I'm are pretty low if this guy's a political aspirant. I'm going to ruin you.

I'm going to write a sex column about a political aspirant. I am sick of Congress steamrolling these bills through that's allowing ibuprofen to rule us. Frankly, I think it's terrible. Anyway, so she reveals what happens. She reveals what happens in her column. And he is disgraced. And his life is pretty much ruined and it seems kind of like i think that's when i started to not like carrie i was like so you just ruined his life

because he freaked out and dumped you after you said you didn't want him to pee on you and she wrote about it in her sex column and because she even if she didn't it was sort of like carrie that's kind of brutal not that i'm trying to stick up for the uh water sports enthusiast you're loud though you know two consenting adults can piss on each other if they wish. Also, Ron Livingston, who's the guy from Swingers and lots of other stuff. And Office Space. He's the main guy from Office Space. The guy who gets hypnotized.

Yeah. The main dude. He was one of her long-term boyfriends on the show. He was another writer. And they broke up because he wrote a scene involving a woman from New York who was young using a scrunchie. You know, the hair tie thing. And she was like, I just don't think someone like's young using a scrunchie you know the hair tie thing yeah and she was like I just don't think someone like that would use a scrunchie and he was like oh come on you know because she read the book and he wanted her opinion that was her one issue and then you've just

bought over a mate and we've all hung out with your mate and your mate was real shit and then they leave and then you're listening and justifying how cool you like no no my mate's done all this awesome my cousin was in the army how is it like that at all because you're trying to find the scenario all you're doing is telling us about like these characters pre previous all right well i'm trying to cite some of the notable high points of the show because what's what this movie shows us about the modern state of movies based on tv shows is like we went through a period in the sort of 90s where the only movies based on tv shows were retro tv shows there were reboots they were brand driven things they were never reboot yeah they were never now that's getting a reboot they

were they were never just what we saw on tv and then on the big screen they were like the brady bunch they were ironic they were There was always some extra angle. The idea of a movie based on a TV show, that was the domain of a TV movie. And then there was the X-Files movie that was reasonably successful, which went straight out of the TV show and the TV show continued to exist

after and had the same cast. That was kind of like really out of favour, that idea. And then when the first Sex and the City movie made so much money, you can't discount the success of that film and this one for the existence of the entourage film which i was quite looking forward to another hbo comedy turned into a series with the same cast and stuff even when the movie was being made were you looking forward to it the sex in the city movie no the entourage

movie i was because the entourage hate was very pervasive at that time and i think that show gets a bad rap i actually think it is a really good show and I watched it again recently I think it's hilarious it's got a lot of problems and um it's kind of disgusting a lot of the time but it's also really funny and it has a lot of like some of the the kind of bro-iness of it is actually kind of awesome I think and Johnny Drama Kevin Dillon so I was like oh man I'm so looking forward to the Entourage movie even though it seems like it's eight years too late or whatever and so but like the Sex and the City films, it wasn't even as good as an average episode of the show. You know, like it lived down to what everyone always says about Entourage,

that it's misogynistic and just gross and about guys being gross. And the film kind of was, and it was not like the show. I was like, the show actually had some quite awesome characterizations and really creative uh cameos like when entourage started the idea of a star cameoing as an asshole version of was already a cliche thanks to larry sanders they they they kind of evolved the sort of notion of a star playing themselves they made them actual sort of characters that were very similar anyway i always liked entourage and the movie sucked and these movies suck too in the way that the show was good and the movies aren't and they're just kind of

victory lap movies, self congratulatory it's all about how great are we like especially for the first Sex and the City movie just repeated the same conflict that turned me off the finale of the series seems like it's got a place to see sorry God I've been rabbiting on

no no that's quite alright do you want to give us, it's going to be, I know I'm going to time on. No, no, that's quite all right. Do you want to give us... I'm going to time you for this one, you son of a bitch. You're going to give us a two-minute pitch to make this movie, okay? In spite of everything you've just said. Guy and myself are movie executives. We are financiers. And you are going to give us the elevator pitch.

I will, I will. We've afforded you... Okay. Now. Good. Two minutes. Hey, you know how we went to college what's your name my name is um is is is um just use your real name no no i wanted to use a east coast uh like harvard type name anyway i'm some blue blood from the american east coast who recently spent some time traveling the world i got in a situation where my kind of lad where'd you go to uni boy i'm calling in our old school ties uh because i'm in hock to an oil baron whose cousin is the minister of tourism for abu dhabi and i owe him three and a half million dollars oh my he's got

my two children this is gonna become our problem you must get out of here. He's got my two children and he says that if I don't do something to help him or his cousin, who's the minister of tourism for Abu Dhabi, he knows I've got Hollywood contacts and he said, you got to get a film made that shows how fun it is to go on holiday in the Middle East. And then the elevator pitch guys guys Why are you so sweaty? I heard that you guys Are stumped for an idea For the second

Sex in the City movie You can't leave that money On the table I'm not comfortable With the new carpets Look we don't have to give Miranda a storyline okay This whole thing

We can justify it On a really really good Camel toe joke No one's suggesting A Sex in the City 2 movie No no I read in the trades that

that you're sitting on a green light Sarah Jessica Parker's about to turn 50 and she wants to shoot before then and she's got a boob job she's got a boob job just for the movie and she's got a special costume design that's going to enhance that and so yeah

anyway it'll be like it'll be like a music video like a Spice Girls girl bonding trip and we'll have a really great karaoke scene in the middle

where they sing I Am Woman I know you have I know this is a radical idea but I want you to allow a couple of shots of some maybe not

10 out of 10 women in the I Am Woman scene like one who's sort of not movie skinny just one just one as confused as I am offended frankly maybe not 10 out of 10 women in the Iron Woman scene. Like one who's sort of not movie skinny. Just one. As confused as I am offended, frankly. I don't know why you're trying. Thank you for coming in.

Can you help me? I've got my children. Yeah, I heard at the start. Then you moved on really quickly from that. I think you've got to look somewhere else. I'm not comfortable with anything that's happened. This is my office. Do you know what?

That could be one of the films that plays on a loop on an interior hotel channel you know like the video that's showing the facilities of the hotel that you flip over

what is this in the old days it would be a really worn VHS tape so it would be all white but that's just like what plays just take out the bits

with Samantha and it's just basically a tour of the facilities at the greatest hotel in fictional Abu Dhabi there you have it folks episode 20 of the worst idea

of all time thanks for having me again Dominic Corey you can catch him online and soon in LA you're moving over there hey can I actually plug something

yeah super brief I have a film website it's called thegoodinmovies.com go to thegoodinmovies.com and check it out check out a little

Twitter as well mate thegoodinmovies on Check it out. Check out a little Twitter as well, mate. Um, the good in movies. No, no, no. Oh,

whatever. What's your Twitter? What's your one? At Dominic Corey. I'm going to spam you. I'm going to spend $150 New Zealand dollars to buy a bunch of Twitter bots and make them all follow you. It's 22,000 a night. Nice.

That's a reference to the film that we're warning you not to watch, folks. That's right. Don't watch the movie. We'll see you next week for the 21st where Guy and I are going to get drunk because we're developing the drinking game in episode 21.

I'm just putting this on you now, Guy. That's okay. We'll see you then. Bye, everyone. See you next week. It's the worst idea of all time. see you then. Bye everyone. See you next week.