The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Two - Live Disaster

Episode Date: May 11, 2016

SPONSORED BY BIGPIPE.CO.NZ Guy and Tim have done a live record and it's all a bit shambolic. The audio quality is abysmal, the lads are far from perfect too. In a late night, in a comedy club, the second watch has yeilded strangely positive views of the film. Tim called it 'the Citizen Kane of our time'. The death of Squirrel and it's necessity to the narrative is discussed, as is the asshole-ness of (newly minted character) Jar-head. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to the worst idea of all time, season 3, episode 2. Thank you to Big Pipe Broadband for sponsoring this episode. You guys know the drill by now, if you're in New Zealand, you have access to the single greatest ISP on planet Earth. No throttling of your family or your speeds, no caps, no contracts, they barely exist. Except to bring you bloody fast and cheap broadband uh go to bigpipe.co.nz and get involved there and use the code worst when you sign up because it shows them that you listen to us and it's it's good for everybody uh right so we did a live record of our second watch and i've got to apologize for both the state of the audio and kind of the state of Guy and myself as well.

Don't know what to tell you. Our recorder failed. Luckily, Guy recorded it on his cell phone, so this is the audio from that. So just get on board. We're not perfect. We make mistakes. Guy and I did this fairly late at night as well,

so we both done our respective comedy shows that night and then immediately watched the movie and then we did this so things got a little loose i don't know what to tell you it's uh just you know just enjoy it just make the decision to enjoy it here it is This is the best song I've ever listened to This is the worst song I've ever listened to What about you? It's that theme song motherfuckers Break it This is the worst song I've ever listened to

This is the worst song I've ever listened to How good is that? Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the worst day of all time. First live record 2016. Are you ready to party? My name is Tim Mack. My name is Guy Montgomery. And I'm ready to party.

I'm just going off in the club, Tim. Everyone's here. They're up to their gills and molly. It's a goddamn bloodbath down here. It's a drug bath. Yeah, I'm going to start a stopwatch because I feel in the kind of mood to really lose track of time this evening. Um, ladies and gentlemen, Guy Montgomery and myself have just watched the movie We Are Your Friends, Zac Efron, 2015. You wanna know the director? Can't remember his name, but he was that guy from, uh, the fish thing.

What's it called? Ken Fish. Ken Fish. Max Joseph. Max Joseph. This is less fun with an audience. They keep correcting you. You fall down a rabbit hole of being wrong and exploring. No, it's good. It's efficient. It is efficient. And that's our word of the day. Efficient. It's like

Pee Wee's Playhouse. You've got to go crazy when the word of the day gets spoken. And the word of the day is efficiency Because efficiency is what this film is all about efficient storytelling and filmmaking so much gets done so quick. I Love this movie There's no getting around it this is It's a great film. It's a lovely film. It's a film that's not too long, which is you know what more than anything. It's a watchable film You could watch this movie any of you watch the movie anymore now. It feels so good. It feels so right We're on a plane watching this movie to go to anywhere you would touch down and be like

I'm gonna be a DJ now and we're attached now if I was going to DJ the Georgie Finn Sky Island Blue Throwdown. Quick shout out to Georgie Femme. Quick shout out to Georgie Femme. Blue Sky Island Throwdown. Comment to your Georgia Femme.

Also, we're gunning super hard for Max Key as a special guest this evening. It's no joke, it's true. He'll be here one time, we'll get him. It's a good promo. It'll be good for everyone involved really. Cut the house lights please Gabe. I want to pretend like no one's here with me. Thank you very much.

But there's still like six people in there. Do you want to know what's real freaky? Those are the people who are in that exact same table that I show. They're front and centre for Monty this evening also. They're front and centre triple header. They're a threat. Three of them played my family members. It was Mum, Dad and my sister. Holy shit! A lot of people don't know what we're talking about.

Just real, ever so gratefully... Yeah, but it's rocking those four people super fucking hard. Ever so gratefully to bring you into the fold, ladies and gentlemen, wherever you're listening. And in Brazil, I say, hello. They say hello in Brazil. That is Brazilian for hello hello which is their national language Just to let you know It's not Portuguese Common misconception there, eh? A lot of people think that Brazilian isn't the national language

A lot of people are But not you and me We're a couple of smart boys Using our brains in the best way possible Researching constantly Because we've been everywhere and we've done everything. We have lived, I think, rich and fulfilling lives. Do you remember the time we fought in a war?

Oh, do I ever? Those were heady times, Tim. Oh, it was intense. But we were brave. We were brave boys. We went straight over the top. Absolutely. And we bloody kicked the bosh out of New Zealand. Didn't we? Oh, right off the shores. There we were. Two plucky young

boys from future Australia. And the great Tasman War of 2020. For those of you uninitiated who haven't time travelled before, and sorry about it if you haven't been on the journey, in the year 2019, Australia declares

war on New Zealand to try and claim it as a territory. And it doesn't do that very well for New Zealand to try and claim it as a territory. And it doesn't seem very well for New Zealand. Guy and I had the foresight to fight for Australia. Thank God. We're not idiots. They're way bigger. Absolutely. And they're angrier too. Generally speaking, they're just angrier people.

I just want to give people context for the thing we were talking about before though. Guy's got a solo comedy show on at the moment. I've got a solo comedy show on at the moment, I've got a solo comedy show on at the moment, so it's all, it's just running at the moment. Guy's got a thing where he has some family members up on stage who he selects from the audience. I just wanted to tell everyone, so they're all part of it. That's good, that's good. For anyone in the future, for anyone in the room live, it's probably a little dreary, but I tell you you what the context for those listening right now on the bus not now in the room stay with us here We've now seen We Are Your Friends twice. It gets better every time. Right? Jesus this movie is fucking awesome. I tell you what, within 15 minutes of this movie Timatt looked at me square in the eyes with the biggest

eyes I've ever seen him have, and he said, this is the Citizen Kane of our generation. And I wasn't wrong. That was only 15 minutes into my second watch, and like, the whole way through the second watch, I am not taking it back. It is so good. Everyone's doing their fucking job on this movie, man I was hearing sound effects that weren't part of the film that got added in and they sound crisp and lovely There were sound effects that weren't part of the film

That got added in. You mean like sound effects? Yeah Exactly Someone took that seriously Exactly! Someone took that seriously. Someone was like, oh fuck I'm on sound effects, then I'll do it. And that's a refreshing change from growing up so in the city too. There was noise and notes. I do agree though, I feel like everyone sort of, there was, it felt like there was a different energy on set. You know, when we were there, working on it as sound recorders, we were doing foley, sound effects, which I thought were great in the film

by the way. It was very similar to the vibe of the Titanic, which I was just on, which is that everyone knew that they were working on something special and they were pulling their weight and they were a part of something bigger than themselves. Yeah. That's what working on this film takes the most energy. There was a real energy about it and you could feel it was a big opportunity for a lot of something bigger than themselves. Yeah. That's what working on this film takes the most time.

There was a real energy about it and you could feel it was a big opportunity for a lot of different people involved. Obviously, Zac Efron, I think he's going to be a big star. Hey, can I let you guys into a secret real quick? Turns out Zac Efron is a really good actor. Really good. good actor. Really good. Baywatch everyone has written off as being some sort of reboot nostalgia cash grab. No, no, no. I actually think this could be quite a fine piece of cinema. I read an interview with Zac Efron today in the popular international sort of the rag uh the new zealand hero and

my really good author uh anonymous uh quite personal freedom or do you just not remember i don't remember you don't remember i just remember i was just in something like anonymous then it'd be good like the anonymous, then it'd be like the anonymous keep hacking people and just sending out really broad left-wing media reports. They've hacked old media. What the hell Cinderprint is by all accounts that newspapers have written, but once it gets printed it's somehow an anonymous newsletter. They're furious. I mean, their heads are rolling. They never forgive and they never forget. Those are the two things I know about a non. That's what we call it. You go on, though, guy. Do you know, we used to have a rule for this podcast.

And the rule was, you're not allowed to get drunk on the first ten watches of the film. And we have quickly disregarded that for the third season. And I apologise for that, but we'll try and pull it back for the other ones but this is a live record, I feel like

exceptions will be made and I'm a very tired boy are you a tired little boy too? no I'm jacked I'm fucking jacked bro he doesn't know what he's saying but I think it's a really good movie and I see this in credits rolling Jacked, bro. He doesn't know what he's saying.

But I think it's a really good movie, and I see this in credits rolling, because it ends on that sort of triumphant anthem that Zac Efron writes to win over the hearts and souls of everyone at Summerfest, which really didn't ring well, the name of the festival for me. Summerfest is the least original name for a festival in the world. There was a placeholder. Isn't Summerfest the name of the thing that happens here in New Zealand that The Edge puts on? Is that Summerfest? Or what? Summerjam. That's a bit more fun.

Preserves, dried fruit. If your first thought is Summerfest, your second thought is Summer Jam. You should always go with the second idea with this kind of thing, because it's a more evolved idea. They write Summerfest down, so I was like, okay, we need a name, like this is the big climax of the movie. This is when Zac Efron, or Zirconly, or Troy, whatever you want to fucking call him, proves himself. Where'd Troy come from? High school musical, 10 year anniversary. Bro, can I admit something to you now? Can I be vulnerable with you?

I've not seen high school musical. Don't worry, I've said it at least 10 times on behalf of both of us. Really? It is a fucking excellent bit of video. I don't doubt that. It combines my two newly favourite things. Musical theatre, which I've known that I've loved for a while But I didn't know I loved Zac Efron What I do what what what you know what what can we say about this boy? It's good boy

He's a hot boy there's a sex scene in the movie between Zac Efron and Emily Sophie the name of the character in the film they'll say perfectly enough for us Emily's surname in real life and they sort of, they patch and they make out it looks like they're on drugs and the music

going on, they're sprinting past slot machines, it looks like a real party and you're watching them make out and you're like who, because these are most super like, on the scale of sexually charged looking people with the right editing and, you know, post-production. It's powerful stuff and you're just watching it and you're like, oh, who's more excited about this? Because they are both peaking out right now. But like, they're on each other's level and you said to me, and I made an important point writing it down.

I do, you don't have to to remind me I know what I said. What did you say? Guy you've made a mess in your pants. No that's not what you got me to write down. Oh no what did I get you to write down? I don't remember. You said you wish Zac Efron was gay. Oh yes! Here's the reason why. Here is the reason why. So excited I might have reverted to my 16 year old set. Well that 16 year old set should watch High School Musical because it's a fucking awesome movie.

Fuck yeah, I'd watch it now. All I need is the time. That's the only variable that I require. You watch this goddamn movie every week and you make a little type of High School Musical. Here's the thing, my comrade. Here's the thing about us. The reason why I wanted Zac Efron to be a little... ...more or more... ...in character, not offensive... ...was because I was behind the shroud of the character. Do I? Do I? Do I?

Yes, yes, you're correct. You're in the safe space. Yes, yes, yes. It's because, um... Where is this guy going? Don't make me... Bring him back. I want to hear what he thinks about marriage equality. The thing about Zac Efron is, I've noticed him as being quite a talented actor, but what

other things? Very reserved about him. I've noticed him as being quite a talented actor, but what other things? Very reserved about him. I've noticed him as being quite a talented actor, but what other things? Very reserved about him. I've noticed him as being quite a talented actor, but what other things? Very reserved about him.

Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. Very reserved about him. how Zac Efron is, I've noticed him as being quite a talented actor. But what I was very reserved about was, does he really love Emily Sophie in real life as a human being, or is he acting? And the most in me wants to wish that he's just a really good actor but there's a little

portion of me going Zac Efron's not a good actor at all he wants to is being his natural self. So you mean to tell me... Instead of heaping praise on our lad, we should be chastising him for being shite at his profession, which is acting. I think it's just good management. I think they know he's vulnerable and they said, oh aye, Zach, do you want to be a part of a documentary?

And he said to them, he said, oh aye, I love a good documentary. I'm a very smart boy. As sure as the sun comes up in the east. I know this to be true. I want to be in a doggone. As sure as the sun comes up in the east I'm close to being true I want to be in a dock o' I feel like that is always exact We'll probably run it's course Why haven't we? We've gone down, we've milked that

Oh fuck! I was supposed to say stop watch on at the start of this and I didn't I got you, we've been going for 14 minutes and 5 seconds exactly. Some would say it feels like a lot longer up here. Or less. I feel like we've barely ripped the scab off this thing. Because it's a hell of a movie and I can't wait to tell you why. So what did you think about the movie this time? Have you expressed a little something something about what I thought on the second watch? What do you think? Ah, no I agree. I found it really, yeah, when you said Zac Efron's a good actor I couldn't have agreed more. I thought he did the second watch. What do you think? I agree. When you said Zac Efron's a good actor, I couldn't have agreed more. I thought he did a really good job. I thought he was really good.

At the end of the movie, it's Summerfest, which is impossible to get past. If there is anything in New Zealand called Summerfest, that's bad news. You're just like, what have we got here? What are we working with? What are the raw materials that we're promoting here it's going to happen in december or summer as we call the season

and it's kind of what we're going to do is we're going to get a lot of different tents to people we've been trying to get around this was losing me a festival or when there's a summer festival it's too long for a hashtag no it isn't drop the evil that's what everyone thinks but you've got to think counterculture in this day and age, it's 2016

it's hashtag 2016 and when people are hashtagging that these days they spell out 2016 in litres the hashtag 2016 starting with a T, not a 2 thing to do is create a hashtag that is obscenely long, and then your word economy

becomes absurd. You thought 160 characters was too little? You thought 140 was too little? How about we try an old fucking massive hashtag in there, and you have to communicate all the information requisite for people to get to your goddamn show get them excited, give them the call to action

in like 30 letters I think this is a common saying today it's a challenge accepted Gun Montgomery will whip out because he's a big whippy boy I'm a big brave boy with a big heart, I've been drinking lonely milk I've been growing my bones I know what I'm doing I know what's good a big heart, I've been drinking lonely milk, I've been growing my bones. I know what I'm doing, I know what's good for me, and what I was going to say, Tim, is that I was really excited when you said Zac Efron is a good actor.

Yes. And I couldn't have agreed more, and at the time of the film, at Summerfest, when he plays his final song, and this is, if you buy end of the movie this is genuinely the emotional climax of the film like he is He's been through some stuff. There's a very good friend Squirrel who Tim himself identifies as. Tim, when we watched the movie which was twice, he always says I'm Squirrel bro. And when he was on the screen he goes, that's me bro And it's not even out of pride, it's just, it's like begrudging, it's like I'm him. It's sad.

Because he's the... He is the squirrel of the group. He's the little weasley cunt. Good reason. There's not even a weasley... I'm sorry to throw this out there. I don't mean to do that. It's fine.

I think when you're describing yourself as a weasley cunt, I think you're in the clear. It's just sad, man. I think it reflects poorly on me that I self-identify with a squirrel. I think it's fine, I don't really like squirrel in the movie. He's definitely, he's the guy who's like, thinking big picture, but he dies in the film. He's the only one who dies. And this, in the universe of We Are Your Friends, only one person dies and that's Squirrel. And that's it.

But it had to be Squirrel. they fleshed out his character the least that's true actually he drove them all around in his mum's car and he liked to smoke weed at the beach and they're like there's no way to resolve this character we'll just give him a drug overdose show and get him the fuck out of there there's a trope in filmmaking

that you axe the African American character and it's like nowhere is it more evident than in Halloween H2O, is that the one that's like 20th, the 20th anniversary one and LL Cool J is like the

guest star and they fucking nix him straight away in the movie. Does he say it out loud in the movie? He might reference it actually, yeah I think so it's that common that they next up. There's solely white dudes crushing it in this film, so they have to kill Squirrel. They're like, well we're gonna sacrifice someone and Squirrel's the most expendable person of our white breed of merry men, so they have to fucking next up. and and and and

they're right those things are they didn't kill squirrel quite literally just watch four guys who are doing fine in the belly all they do is forever always yeah and here if I here are four dudes who were cool and a little bit cooler it's not a movie so it's like his poor dudes who are cool and now he has three dudes who are cooler but guess what it came to cost? Here are the best movies off the top of my head. Titanic. That's a movie about a woman and man...

You said you worked on it, you're still promoting. What are you talking about? You... I know for a fact you worked on the Titanic. I did not. You don't remember, you're always going on about how you would have been Titanic. You genuinely don't remember how you were going on about it. You can't make people go that over the ability to time travel. It's not a good thing to get

out there. It creates a lot of complications. People ask a lot of papers. I'm not giving away anything that hasn't already been said, bro. If I was to pick my favourite movies I'd start with Titanic that's not a clue because that's a movie about two people

just like getting on a boat having a real dark time coming from like different places and then ultimately ending in the same place right so it's a journey this same place that they end up is essentially a popsicle except for Rose who makes that alive. But I'm not joking.

Here's another great film. Terminator 2. Woo! Robots. Robots time-travelling. Some other people. Sarah Connor just trying to like, change the future that's already been preset for her. Everyone starts from a place, they end up in a different place.

That's what makes a movie. And We Are Your Friends, if Squirrel didn't die, is just four dudes who live in Los Angeles, California, who start off pretty cool and then end up in the exact same position. You need some sacrifice. Does Sokoli even make it? As a DJ? Yeah. you need some sacrifice. Does Sokoly even make it? As a DJ?

Yeah. I mean, he plays at Summerfest where he plays such a fucking dander of a track that it's like, I get that that's his debut on the world stage. Like, that's him trying to present himself to all and sundry,

but he fails. Well, the fucking idiots who bought a ticket to see Summerfest bought a ticket to see the least original festival, which by the way the organisers didn't even think to create any sort of hype or music in between

acts, they quite literally hired DJs and then just put out 30 minute blocks of silence with a bunch of people standing in a fucking car I've actually come to that though, since we last talked about it it's kind of, it's a, it's if you think about it, if you know you're going to something fucking

hype, which apparently is the word we use now. You're the only, you're the only one who used it. I'm starting. It's like, cool, let's get started. Someone's gonna start it. You are prepared to wait the, like, 15 to 20 to 30 seconds of silence

in anticipation to just get ready no way man you get a room full of or a car park full of drugged up 20 year olds and they're like just in this weird heightened sense of reality and all they're hearing is loud music and then in the middle of it when they're just freaking out you're like the fabric of reality god yeah it's just you and your thoughts you freaky 20 year olds on drugs how's that fucking music festival going for you you are not wrong that is a disaster silence is a cruel mistrust of power in a crowd that has just been engaging in some hedonistic bullshit of chemicals and gyrations

you can't get that period you're right rub it up on strangers in broad daylight at 20 years old in silence. That is like kryptonite to 20 year olds. I want to talk about something and I made you write down the words Van and Wilder.

And the reason for that was... You always are going on about Van Wilder. Well, I've brought up, I think, the old potty before because Van Wilder was a movie that meant a lot to me. The origin story was, I think, this is how it happened. Yeah, this is how I found out about the movie Van Wilder. I wouldn't have even known about it.

You were a teenager at a video store. My older brother, who was at university at the time, was like, every time I can't be bothered going to uni, I watch this film, and then I go to a couple classes. You guys are breaking in the dough now. My brother's doing fine, thanks for asking. That is a miracle, because on the evidence you've just presented, he sounds like the biggest idiot.

But he gave me it on DVD like as a present for a birthday or Christmas or something and I watched it and I was like

here you go little brother everything's gonna be just fine but I got it that's the thing about it like I got it I watched that movie

and I was like yes dude absolutely I understand and it probably didn't hurt that Ryan Reynolds had been I was like, yes, dude. Absolutely. I understand. And it probably didn't hurt that Ryan Reynolds had been predisposed to me through Two Guys Ago on a Pizza Place, which was amazing.

Seriously, I don't think it's enough credit. What was good about that show? Ryan Reynolds. Just saying. But the other dude was good. Actually, all three of them were good. The other dude. Yeah, that other dude was super memorable, I thought.

I thought that other dude's work was really great. Listen, my point is, Deadpool's a great film. We should all support him. He was sitting on that script for a long-ass time. I can't remember what's going on with that. You were talking about Ben Wilder. Okay, so Ben Wilder. So that was a movie where, like, I watched it when I was a bit younger and...

Have I told the story about the media studies class on this point? Does anyone have time for me? Does everyone know? Yes. Shut down! And because one person knows, no one else will ever know. I feel like the itchy and scratchy animators when they crawl down the rip making different comments on the same line. That's the meanest thing you could say to a fucking legend.

First watch Three Continent Mouses is bullshit. Well, if you didn't catch that slight reference, check out season one once again. RIP like the whole thing. It's the best part of with the episode of Wells. My point was, Bear Wild is a film that came into my life, I liked it a lot at a particular time. I recognised that it was a

bad old movie. And this is in a similar frame for me, because it's like the movie isn't flawless. There's a little weird shit to it. In particular, a guy who Guy and I have lovingly referred to as Jarhead. His real name's Mason, but he's bald.

So I thought he looked like Jack Gyllenhaal from Jarhead. He's also one of the few things that's wrong with this movie. He's a bad guy. He's a bad egg. I've got a bad feeling about him. I don't think he's good for the boys. I think he's really a toxic influence. I think he's controlling. I don't like him. I don't care for him. And I'm sorry if he's one for the boys. I think he's really a toxic influence. I think he's controlling.

I don't like him. I don't care for him. And I'm sorry if he's one of your close friends. As long as you're hanging out with him, I'm not hanging out with you, man. I don't want to say he's a coldie. I really like his dude. I think he's a cool guy. But I can't be part of your documentary because I really don't like this guy Mason you've been spending time with. The guy cannot abide. At at all to the Mason jar. Jade is a dude who very early on in the film, like about 20 minutes in, he's like hassling this woman

who's like a door person. Like they have the list. This is super dark, by the way. For everything we've said that's good about the movie, this is super dark time. I think I misquoted though. I don't think I'll get quite the intensity You'll get close enough, it's a fair thing So, fucking, there's a brief shot where he hands her some people to add to the door list

Blah blah blah, she's doing her job So Coley's doing some DJing The night ends Jahid follows the woman home, It's like on a street somewhere Some street lights illuminating the pavement And he comes up to her and starts harassing her And she says stop I will sleep with you

But on two conditions Number one that you recognise this is pity sex And I will never admit to it having happened I don't even remember what point 2 is You shut the fuck up yeah and it's like there's no way to have sex with someone all the other boys

they're all having a cool time they're having like super awesome consensual talkative sex and like it's the colleagues on PCP at this weird art gallery and everything's going into a cartoon and then the same music and vibes yeah the boys doing it and then the same music and vibes, like yeah

the boy's doing it and then it's like this door lady being like hey fine, you've been harassing me for a long time, fine that's, aside from that, it's a great movie, Susan Cain by the way

no let's dwell on this for a moment more, it's a bad thing that happens and it's one of the real missteps of this movie but it's so broad deep and meaningful that I feel like it drags the rest of the movie down

and I'm almost tempted to say this movie I think on Rotten Tomatoes has got 48% and I feel like that percentage has been dragged down by just a couple of bits in the film which let the rest of it down because as a complete work of art, fine. It exists. Well, as a work of art, it is undeniably and categorically a work of art. And you can really see that that's what they were going for.

I mean, it's a joy to be around, working on the film as we did. The PCP was really cool. And what's really cool about the PCP, as we were on the set making the movie, doing the sound effects, Max, the director, he made sure everyone was on PCP, everyone involved,

everyone within a 50km radius. He got a whole suburb. I had never done it before. And a lot of people haven't done it since. They haven't done anything since. They just sit in a white room with windows, eating crackers. It ruined a lot of people's lives. Hey, the important thing is, though, it was definitely worth it.

To birth this. That's how I feel when I'm making a film. I get impregnated by the idea. I do some PCP. I gestate. And then nine months later a film appears and I'm like, yeah. Biology. Filmmaking. Hashtag film making. It's like 17 characters. biology filmmaking hashtag

filmmaking it's like 17 characters probably hashtag filmmaking 17 characters how many characters is that? tons absolutely but no I just think that

ultimately this movie is a good thing for society but no I just think that ultimately this movie is a good thing for society I think it reaches out to our students long lessons what? it's a real mirror for society it's a real mirror for society a mirror for society

can we just keep the basics in on this podcast, dude? Like, enunciation isn't hard. I think we can all agree. Enunciation is not a tricky thing to do. So let's all do it. A mirror for society. Not a mirror for society.

You mocking me? Is that what it said then? Okay. Roman shop. I'm going to run around the block with you by delivering some quality content. Um... Have you guys ever been in love before?

Because I feel like this movie does the best job No one in this room has been in love before We've got about at least 60 people in here No one in this room has been in love before by the way. Who does this thing at home? We've got about, I don't know, at least 60 people in here. And of these 60, none of them know why this is going to be the saddest group of people in the fucking world. That's why they're here. Don't you understand? So the reason I ask that question is because...

You should probably explain the concept of love to this room full of miserable people. We'll do that in a minute. But first, just this film does the best job of depicting love in cinema since Baz Luhrmann's crack at Romeo and Juliet. Like, the way that he captures being on drugs and wanting to patch someone right on the face, for my money, is on the money. It's all money, all the time. It's money baby, to borrow the term phrase from Vince Vaughn.

And someone who hasn't tried... East Wingers fans in the audience, no? Woo! Three people. Someone who hasn't tried, hasn't tried, will never, never try drugs, I would like to say that I think you should probably explain what it's like which drugs love any drugs well love is the drug and love is a drug that is very similar to ketamine that's why it makes horses go to sleep.

It does. Put a horse in front of a rom-com, they will have a nap. That is a stone cold fact. That's why with horses they give the super long lashes to the male horses. If you see really long lashes on a horse it's on the male horse because if they gave them to the female horses, male horses

would just fall asleep constantly and we couldn't have horse racing. Or any more horses. Because while horses are still primitive with regards to being compared to humans, sexual assault and rape is still real in the horse community and accordingly you can't have sex with a horse that's asleep. And you can't have sex with a horse that's a sex. Hashtag, just because you play, seek some consent.

Horse scent. Horse scent is also an exciting fragrance being released. It's the smell of a horse whose head sinks and falls asleep. Horse scent. Where did we jump from? I can't remember what the point of our question was. Very hard to keep up. There's a lot of other notes. I can't remember what the point was. Very hard to keep up.

There's a lot of other notes. I can't bring them up on my phone because I'm recording this as a safety. But you should bring them up because there's a lot to talk about and we did write it down. They're available on your phone. I sent it to you on your phone. I'm a good guy. I'm a good smart guy. I plan ahead. I'm a good boy. Typically I'm a good boy. I've got a couple of good boys. A couple of tired boys. Zach Efron's going to'm a good boy. Tim's also a good boy, we're a couple of good boys, couple of tight boys. Zac Efron's gonna be a big star. Yeah, you laugh at me now. There's no retrieving the notes from this one.

It's not gonna happen. Rest assured, they were good notes. At this point we're freestyling. Which is what we do most episodes. It's kind of, it's an unusual feeling being on an episode two. We record a lot of episodes underwater. Episode two in front of a live audience has put an interesting angle on the whole thing.

Yeah, okay. One person was on board with that, yeah. That guy is my boy. As you were, sorry. I don't mean to interrupt your train of thought. It's just like, it's interesting, because you jump on the Facebook or whatever, you jump on the subreddit, jump on the live crowd,

and you're like, do you know what? I think you guys... I think you guys have really lost it with this final season, this late season, because it's not such a bad film. I watched the film and I enjoyed it and it's like do you know what maybe you were right you know what I don't feel like that at all

I feel like maybe you're wrong maybe the last season of the podcast is about us just having a great time with the fucking boys they just want Zac Efron to be a good DJ two fuckboys from New Zealand who doesn't want Zac Efron to be a good DJ two fuckboys from New Zealand who doesn't want Zac Efron to be a good DJ on a weekly basis

with four fuckboys from Los Angeles California there's no better recipe for success in terms of a podcast than that we should rename the podcast some fuckboys that should be what it's called from here on in. Because everyone's having fuckboys.

Some fuckboys is bigger than one podcast. That's the name for a whole podcast network. And everything in its goddamn stable. Can I ask you a question? You know how Squirrel dies for the good of the boys, so that they can continue to be lads? Sweater boys, sweater boys. Is it worth this podcast

for one of us to fucking carcass? And if so, pick one of us. And bear in mind that you're one of them.

I would choose for myself today, and for one reason, one reason only, because within the

confines and rules and rules of the podcast, they require you, as the murderer, to then stand up and deliver a roast at my funeral. You are forgetting a...

I thought you'd forgotten about that, actually. You're forgetting a key component of that, which is that I have to seek the permission of both your parents. Well, Stephen and Charlotte have to agree to me roasting you post-mortem for it to happen I should do it now, I'm pretty

into it, and they can just play the recording on it, should I do it? I'm going to tell you, I haven't written anything I'm going to stand up for this what are you doing? Are you roasting me? Yes dude!

That's not cool man! Are you okay with it? We're alive! We're having a good time! I feel like it's important. Are you down for this? I feel like it's important. Are you down for this? If you feel like it's important I guess it must be important.

Here's my first joke, I'm Guy Montgomery and I get very conditional approvals for things. Just take it to another level. Well you better turn the risers up to 13 because this boy is cooking. Hey ladies and gentlemen, my name is Guy Montgomery, I'm taller than the average man and I can't wait to tell you about it. Look at all my limbs, they're huge. My name is so bendy. I'm a crazy dude, my mind doesn't work like your mind works. It's going from one idea to the next. This is more mimicry than a rice probe. This is good content.

I actually got a bit pissed at this place about the money I was saving for. I'm sorry I couldn't do this without a team of writers. I was throwing myself from the rice. Hi, I'm Tim Bitt. I can do anything if you give me a chance. Just give me a chance to do it. I'll absolutely get the goddamn job done. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what's a good idea is I'll start doing a roast right now. And that team of writers behind me, go ahead, team of writers. I'll just do it anyway. It's going to get into the gangbusters. I'm a funny guy with a funny brain. It's not quite like yours. I argue jokes and I talk about politics. Oh, and I was a son of religion when I was about to politics.

And vote for me. and vote for me I like you and I like this movie this podcast is now about love it's about friendship it's so positive it's such a good time even when the third season was hanging off the depths of despair

they were in with Sex and the City 2. I can't imagine what's going to happen with this next movie. Oh my goodness, another year of a movie they just like,

they've got to watch every single week. But here's the thing no one anticipated, bro. What if they put the fucking podcast woman on his goddamn head? What if they discovered

a film that was under-celebrated? What if we found out that Zac Efron was the greatest actor of our time and that that catch-fish whatever his fucking... That catch-ish. What if he's the best director

we've ever seen? And that's what we've discovered. It turns out, contrary to what we first believed, judged by the trailer, which was four minutes long, of an hour and a half movie, which is a good portion of the film. It was typically about two minutes long. No, it's four minutes, no shit.

That trailer's massive. Do you watch the Zac Efron YouTube channel trailer of the documentary he was making? Nah, you're not the big trailer. Where are your friends' trailers, two minutes? Zac Efron doco trailer's four, I've seen it. Hey, man. Zac Efron, Doc O'Trails 4. I've seen it. Hey, I'm Zac Efron.

Welcome to Mr. DJ. How dare you. How dare you bring that kind of disrespect into the dojo. I think I know I'm taking video content from this audio content because your mouth made a very disparaging shape when you were manipulating the one and true acting gods at Keppra. Anyway, my point is this movie's fucking dope.

Everything's fucking dope. And guess what? If you don't like it, sorry about it. Everyone thinks this is a podcast about Guy and I exposing ourselves to a radioactive movie every week. Turns out season three isn't. Season three is about us discovering a movie

that should have won Academy Awards and Oscars. Did the same thing. I think I meant to say Emmys. Just all of the awards that could have been possible, Golden Globes, why not? Fuck TV. TV is the old movies. Movies are the new TV.

No, you've lost it. You've lost it. I checked out. I was looking at my phone for a bit. I'm not on a level, man. I've got these great notes here. I found them. And I'd like to do the shining light right now because we've been talking for longer than we ever have. And I'd like to bring up a scene in the movie which I don't think was probably if any critic

gave it a bad review it was probably this scene was couched in the bad review because if you don't quite understand what the actors are doing it probably doesn't read you

or watch that well but if you get a feel for what the brief was from the director and the execution I think it'll The cash fish guy? Yeah the cash fish guy

doing a fish with cash and going action! and then he eats it it's fucked anyway execution I think it all the cash fish guy yeah the cash fish guy there's a fish with cash and going action and then he eats it's fucked it is seen after Emily Sophie and the coldy Troy have sex and Las Vegas and there's been a lot of buildup to the scene there's a lot of like tension releases very satisfying that funny had sex and they wake up in the morning and they're in bed and um they both agree that what is a good idea and this is not shining right for work by the way but it's a super good idea that they have some breakfast and they just get some rooms that were in hotels vegas because of rich service she says she can get room service that's exactly how she works

and it's and it's totally buy-in as Hootie, and Zac Efron's like, he looks straight down the camera, and he's like, I'd like to get room service. And he turns back to the input server, and he says, yes. And it's a beautiful,

sort of perfect moment. But then they get the room service, and the brief from Cash Fish Guy was obviously just like, all right. Bring it. What we're going to do, we haven't really written this part of the script We've got the cameras, we don't have the script. Go.

We're gonna give you guys some room service and just improv how you feel about the room service and then give them a delicious breakfast and they both just sit there for a minute of the movie going Oh my gosh, these pancakes are so young. He's not fucking kidding around. That's almost exactly the dialogue.

How are your pancakes? The pancakes are so young. Yeah, pancakes are great. Yeah, I love pancakes. It's crazy what pancakes are. Hey, you can't even believe how good these pancakes taste to me. I love pancakes so much. They're the best. Well, if you don't even love condiments with pancakes taste to me. I love pancakes so much, they're the best.

Well, if you don't even love condiments with pancakes, I'll be here every time. I will continue to because pancakes love them. That's the quality, that's the same. If you want to have all my dick in some pancakes, I'll do it. What? I still have a character. I still have a character as a colleague. So that's your shining light.

Again, man, and I know this isn't the first time I've brought this up, but I can't help but feel that you've gone against the spirit of what a shining light is. You've ironically picked a shining light which is a bit where the movie falls down. It's kind of the reason I love the movie, is they left room. So Grunitz 2, if you read discussions around it, was apparently entirely improvised, they didn't write a script it was just all of them on set being like wow we need to do something like today boys and then they just talk to each other and then some fucking poor editor

in a room was just like I gotta do this and they did it but in this movie it's like okay we've got a whole fucking storyline we're gonna pick a bunch of shit and by the way here's one scene just for you two just eat some food we'll film it, we'll put it in. That's a promise, that's a fucking cash fish promise, and if you don't believe me, you better believe this, and then took a whole catfish filled with cash and just fucking

ate it in one go. It's fucked. That's so tense, bro. I love that shit. That's awesome. That's what the mighty boys would do. They'd be like, do you want to play in the club tonight? They're like, we'll put it in there now, we'll send it.

We just eat chicken and we'll go to the club. Bruh, love that shit. That's awesome. That's what the mighty boys would do. They'd be like, do you want to play at the club tonight? They'd be like, we'll be there in a minute. We'll just eat cash fish. B-b-b-bee! B-b-b-bee! Cash fish, season one. My shining light was the outdated Macbook,

which we get a brief glimpse of which doesn't even have island keys. What is Cole playing at? How old is his laptop? I told you this. I've never owned an Apple product in my life but I saw that laptop and I went

a step out of time. When we were watching the movie they made a point of making this movie last year and it was super, it's on the time and up to speed. And the reason he's got that old MacBook Pro that you deride so heavily is because he's like, they're not doing that, they're living in the valley, like he's living in his friend's parents house, like he's not super, he doesn't have all the kit. I get that, but he's not an animal. Like that MacBook Pro is from about 2012, dog. Tim also, later on in the movie, when you see a close-up of Ziccoli on his phone,

said, wait, is that a Galaxy S3? I did say that. This movie was made last fucking year. That is some bullshit. And in this moment, I'd like to just bring some credentials to the fold. My phone fucked out today because it is a phone from that era of the S3. I had an HTC though.

And this is like the fourth one I've been with. It's broken. No, it's the fifth one. Do you have shares with HTC? I almost bought them. But I don't have any money. Because you keep having to reinvest in HTC products every two years. I almost bought them. But I don't have any money. Because you can't be able to reinvest in HTC products every two years. Yeah. I can't be poor.

Sounds like a hell of a brand. We don't need to hear this. Do the laundry right now. Okay, someone else told me to write down 99 homes. What does that mean, quickly? It just means that there's a bit in this film where they start descending into a subplot, like a

B or a C storyline, where they're all behind mortgagee brokers. This film was probably written in 2013, so we're dealing with the post-mortem of the financial crash, the GFC of 2008. Everyone's lost their homes, and these boys get taken

in by a real... Who are good boys. A real awful Wall Street type who's a real property mogul and his job is to recruit young bucks to get people on the phone whose houses have all closed. A deer and humans. He hires the deer from Grown Ups 2 and he's in the office. There's four boys and a deer. And Lenny Fader comes in and he's like,

What do you want? We're really running a dead stream of the moment. We're not on the same path. As you were. And 99 Homes is a film which I'd fucking bring it into anyone. God, it's good. It's about the wake of the financial crisis and a person foreclosing on homes and just doing what they need to do to make a bit of cash, but they do it on other people's backs who get foreclosed on.

And this movie briefly juts into that as a storyline, and I think it's fucking cool, man. So you get into this room where the boys who we're following from LA all start working in an office like a bunch of plebeians and they have to wear a tie to work and shit. Ooh, kind of cold you, baby.

Oh, they hate it. Seen Workaholics? It's kind of like that, but they care a little bit more about their jobs. People closing on people. Cole has to rip a woman with a new baby out of her property. It's horrible and it makes you feel something because Zac Efron's a good actor he sells it

so you're kind of briefly in this awful Wall Street 99 Heim scenario and it takes you back out suddenly you're in the drug fuel I like that as an idea that this film touches all other films they sort of open up the idea

Studio 54 what is it? it's 99 homes it's Titanic there's no roads or a ship I don't know but I like the idea that it sort of addresses it's sort of like oh yeah Oh shit.

But I like the idea that it sort of addresses, it's sort of like, oh yeah, and so then this global financial crisis happened and people were real mean about it and they made a lot of money by ripping people off. And it's like, yeah, and they're obviously bad people and you should not like them. And then they're like, but everything works out. And then you go and start doing drugs at a nightclub

and they're like, but everything works out fine with those people. Stop thinking about those people. then you go and start doing drugs at a nightclub and they're like but everything works out fine with those people we've got some drugs to do at a nightclub but then your mate dies and this seems like a joke but we're gonna end it there are we really? we really are man we really are all power to us so what I'd say was We really are, man. We really are. All power to us.

What I'd say was watch too. One thing. It's really important I say this. I really felt it that the older DJ, James Reid, I don't know who plays him, but we'll figure it out by the truth. We'll show it.

But, fuck, when you read that script, it's just some good looking 40 something year old white dude how dare you he's 34 plus that guy's a young guy he plays late 30s in the film which must be nah I didn't say that or maybe they cast him younger because it feels like

a lot of like pro let's just be heathens propaganda I keep pointing I am it's all context. This is important stuff. The world is one way. After this conversation, it will forever be changed. And what I'm trying to say is,

when you read the script, you must have just been like, yeah, that's a great role. So glad we gave you the oxygen. But just as that guy, disaffected DJ, just like, hey, here's a role for you.

You're going to get two million dollars to play the role of a DJ who doesn't care about being a DJ anymore. It's like, all right, just get a show on set and just act like I don't care

about anything that's happening on the set. And you're going to film me doing it. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You did it. That's a fucking, that's free money that is crazy do you think he did a good job though?

that's the real question they literally cast a cast of in a doco went up to his friend who was an unhappy older DJ and said do you want to be part of my documentary and he said absolutely and then they just shot a buttload of footage and cut around it

and that's why it's a good movie oh damn I'm so glad we allowed for the last four minutes of that rather than closing it when I had prepared to hey thanks bro I'm real glad we did it too and I also really appreciate the positive energy you bring to this problem hey I think you're a really good guy

and you're also super time efficient like all the time I don't think you've ever sort of spoken about anything, you know, for a long and inappropriate amount of time. And then sort of lost your way towards the end of the idea. You feel like you're always on the goddamn nose. And this is why I respect you. It's why I'm really excited to keep talking to you and about you for another year.

Hey, you're a cool guy. You have a pretty little face. You look great clean-shaven, by the way. I think it's good for another year. I guess you're a cool guy, you're a pretty little place. You look great clean-shaven, by the way. I think it's good for your cheeks. Everyone gets to think of diamond cutters there, man. You can cut coal on those, you can cut out those diamonds. And it's part of the reason why I speak so much

as a creator of content and also as a co-host of the podcast because whenever I have an idea that you might not agree with, you give it air and you accommodate it and you let me talk about it think about it and then at the end of it you never make me feel silly or dumb about it you always just go, hey, that was valid bro

you were valid too and we validate each other and that's a big part of the reason why I speak and why I think right now that some of you are still listening to the podcast and it was particularly private because this is a real insight isn't it? Behind the puppet show, you understand our relationship as friends, as co-hosts and that you give me this

air and this opportunity to say what I think and I do the same for you. It's reciprocal and that's what's really important about our relationship as friends and that's what we are. I think ultimately it's friends. And that's why I look at you, man. Like, whenever I see you in front of me,

or, you know, as a business meeting, or if it's just a couple of boys hanging out with our parents, having our first meal with all of our parents there at one table, and our parents over there, we've got a lot of stuff in there, we've got a fight. And we're both worried that it's going to impact our relationship and our friendship and the whole podcast. Maybe we should call the whole thing off,

because, you know, your dad doesn't like my dad, and your mom and your dad doesn't like my dad and your mum and your dad don't really like my uncle because he's a bad guy and he got in a lot of bad big trouble didn't he and they put him away but you and I, we're still sitting there we're looking at each other and there's that respect

and that sort of mutual love and I really appreciate that you, week after week give me the opportunity and no matter what time it is in the podcast, no matter when it is, we're grabbing things over, we're sort of pulling a pin on it, and you say to me, Guy, I love you man, and whatever you say, I'll never undermine you, I'll never make you feel like a dummy, and you're a smart guy,

and you've got a big heart, and you're a good boy, and we're good boys. And I fucking love it when you give me that energy bro.