The Worst Idea Of All Time - Family Time 23

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

In an odd moment of worlds colliding, Sarah Jessica Parker has appeared on The Adam Friedland Show - wild scenes as Carrie Bradshaw herself appears to know a bit about the comedy podcast ecosystem. Your kiwi boiz, meanwhile, are getting kicked in the nuts and back, and enjoying the meditative joys of Simpsons Lego scenes.Join us on Substack: twioat.substack.com  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the worst idea, it's the worst idea of all time. It's the worst idea, it's the worst idea of all time. Hello everybody! Hi Dr. Tim. Yesterday I thought it was so crazy as I was on my phone as I want to do and Adam Friedland has fucking Sarah Jessica Parker on his show. What a crazy thing to happen? I have not yet I watched I went to watch it on YouTube. Yeah, and he puts all these I really like Adam Friedland

But that's it. It's a bad one from her the episode. You're just I haven't made it to the conversation yet As well as you say she's doing so much heavy lifting. She is so lovely and charming and just like everything you would want in a, in an interview guest and with a genuine like curiosity about Adam and, uh, she's a good actor. So I don't know if it's real or not, but sort of feigns a real enthusiasm and knowledge of the show. It's crazy. And he's, he's bad.

In fact, a knowledge of the Adam. She's like, I'm a fan of your show. And he's like, no, you're not. She's like, no's he's bad. In fact, wait a knowledge of the she's like I'm a fan of your show He's like, no, you're not. She's like, no really I am I would believe that I think this is the magic It's she's a New York gal. He's a New York guy magic of podcasting is I think it's the the veneer of sort of like effort, but the Conversations always last too long for any veneer to actually carry through a full conversation. For the uninitiated, Adam Friedland was one third of a podcast called come town, which

was, um, a very sort of, it was part of the huge, I don't know, second wave of podcasting, I guess you'd say. The thinking man cereal. They, yeah, exactly. Exactly. They, they were like, I think the first one is to make a stratospheric amount of money from Patreon. I think they kind of like the first one. Do you know, I missed to come down.

Yeah, I did too on the first go. I missed the whole thing. I've only learned to follow them post their acrimonious or peaceful split. No, I think it's all good. I think maybe it was, yeah, yeah. I think when Starved first made it wasn't great, but they've got a chat show for Adam now that they've modeled and spent. I think he says in the episode, $144,000 creating this talk show for her. Yeah.

Running a talk show modeled on the Dick Cavett show, which is like no one in our generation knows what the fuck that is. Such a funny. The set looks good. It's the only, it is literally the only show that's been modeled on the Dick Cavett show, which is like no one in our generation knows what the fuck that is. It's such a funny... The set looks good. It is literally the only thing I've ever seen on YouTube that's in 4 by 3 ratio. It's not in widescreen. It's the only thing. It's anyway, SJP's on that. I know and we just love it. We don't know Adam. No. But I've got to say when I saw that pop up, I was like, this is as close as I've ever felt.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. This is, um, this is great. Like this is even the knowledge advertised by her saying, I know about your show or whatever. It's like the closest I've conceptually come to understanding that there is a world in which she is familiar with. She's aware of comedy podcast. Yes. You know, as a medium and genre is a thing that's out there. Which also there's a literacy that suggests which is aware of like, you know, irony or not that she's unaware of irony,

but aware of the ironic layers that people can speak with on comedy podcasts in which they say something that perhaps they don't totally believe. It does make it, do you know what was running through my head when I listened to it? Cause I was like, gosh, you say, and I've actually been semi accidentally sort of gobbling up a few interviews she's been doing on the press circuit recently to promote and just like, and yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't just credit yourself like that. You're a hardworking man. You're interested in the source material.

The algo brings me these things. It hasn't been like a... Run, run my equations. It hasn't been a studious research period where I've gone out there digging. These things have been brought to me, but I didn't turn them away. I watched them.

And then the algorithm says, he likes it, we must bring more. What made me, it made me think of as like, man, we, you know, we've sort of done, we've thrown a big spotlight on projects that SJP has helmed and then our first one was Adam Sandler and I feel like it's a similar thing where like, unrealized Sandler was such a fucking awesome dude. I refuse to let that into my head whatsoever. Um, because our job is critics.

Yeah. As to view the material on its own legs, absent any context. That's right. And SJP is welcome to launch a podcast discussing our analysis. If the mood should so take care. Everyone's free to do whatever they want. Um, okay. I think mood should so take care. Everyone's free to do whatever they want. Except for in parts of America at the moment.

Correct. But we're in New Zealand, so we are welcome to discuss television programs, podcasts, and those contain therein. I think. The first five minutes, by the way, of that chat with SJP, Adam has realized in post-production that he's got a booger hanging out. I think the first five minutes, by the way, of that chat with this JP, Adam has realized in post-production that he's got a booger hanging out of his nose.

And so he spends like a full five minutes addressing it at the start of the episode. He said they looked into like, um, digitally it out, but it would cost like 20 grand. Did he say anything? No. In the podcast? No, because she said lovely. No, no, no, no. Lovely is saying something. You're right, actually.

Lovely is always saying something. She does come across in the thing as surprisingly, what's the word I'm looking for? Were you sort of acquiesce? Like, um. Compliant. Yeah, but, um, what's a word similar to docile? You're a word, you're a word man.

Word similar to docile, placid. Placid maybe, but like agreeable. What's like docile in a direction of like, Agreeable. Kind of overly agreeable. Oh. Like sort of submissive, but not quite that, that neighborhood.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying. I think across the sort of five or six words that we've covered We've kind of done a pretty good job of describing what it might be. Um, I got some I get little algorithmic tidbits Not the full cookie just bites from Accounts, you know covering and just like that or or the broader sort of, you know, cultural conversation. One of them, which I didn't look into, but I will remember is that there was Cynthia Nixon saying that the writers would take criticism of the show and of Sex and the City and fold it into the show. They'd take lines like they'd take critical lines of people written about the show and write it into the dialogue.

And that sort of bolsters our quite grandiose idea or claim that the podcast was a tip of the hat to us. There's been a few moments. I mean, having an A-ish plot for Carrie in the last episode all about rats taking over her house, I mean, hello. Yeah, it's not nothing. It's a bit of us. It is not nothing. If Brady was present

in that episode and that was happening, I would, it would push me into tin foil hat direction. If Brady had been the like exterminator guy, if like Carrie had called him and then Brady shot him, he'd pick up the job or whatever. Or he had to rescue, like he came and saw what was happening and freaked out and like tried to rescue the rats or something like that. Yeah. Which, you know, could happen, but hiding all here if I may so far, we're two episodes in. Nothing from him. No screen time from Brady.

Can I say this before we get into how each other are and how you, our listener, is? Are you looking forward to watching another episode? I am. You are? Hmm. That's interesting. And have you been following any cultural critique of of the episodes and how the broader public are feeling like how critics and the public are feeling about the shows that comes out?

I don't know how the public are feeling about this. I have not been following that. Yeah, neither. That's great. I just wanted to... There's way less chatter. And that's what happens when you get rid of out. I don't know how the public are feeling about this. I have not been following that. Yeah, neither. I just wanted to. There's way less chatter. And that's what happens when you get rid of Shay. I've been taking all our social media posts with justice for Shay. And I tell you what, no one is using the hashtag. No one.

I don't, I think it's still, I think it's still doing gangbusters. I think it's still generating business. And I've like, my algorithm serves me recaps and, you know, like on, I think the vultures and the AV clubs or maybe even the New York Times of episodes, but I just don't click them because I don't want to cross pollinate the purity

of my vision and interpretation of the show. Rightly so. That's the right thing to do. But I just wanted to know if you're looking forward to it and you said, yes, and that's all I needed. I did sort of that across my mind in regards to watching the SJP long form interview with Adam Friedland. And I was like, I have to see what this is. That's additional reading. That's not in the course materials.

That's, um, yeah, that's bonus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a pat on the back from the tutor. When you go to your, you know, your tutor session, they go, Hey, good on bonus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a pat on the back from the tutor when you go to your you know You're true to session. They go. Hey, come on you man Way to take the initiative extra credit. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. I've just had a weekend of Shows and parts of Australia with the fantastic Carlo Richie. Hey, oh Great guy great photos from you guys. Really, really had a good time.

First time ever touring with an opener. And it has revolutionized the experience for me. It's so good. Quite a lonely experience. It can be quite a lonely experience. The way you do it. Last year, I was like, I'm not doing it like this again. And then I got Carlo to direct the show.

And then I was like, Oh my god. And if you want to open and then we'll just go to these places and we'll get to like, you know, spend time together. And so that has been it's been fantastic. And actually, also, I just remembered I did a panel show in Australia called Have You Been Paying Attention and I got a photo of us in our dresses up on the big screen, on the silver screen in Australia. Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, looking very glamorous. How did the Australian panel respond to that? Yeah, do they comment on that at all? People are spinning a lot of people's wheels. People love the dresses. They do. Yeah. There's been a lot of women commenting to me in real life. I think Ursula Carlson on the post saying like, this is too powerful an image.

You've got to take it down. Yeah, well, I think, you know, you've got the arms for it. You've got the face for it. You look fantastic. We're the cheekbone boys. I know. You know, we can, God has blessed us with certain, we don't have it all going on, but God has blessed us with certain assets and it would be rude to not lean in a little bit.

Every time I exercise, I think maintain the cheeks. I will before we get any further, also just reveal that while I was listening to the Adam Friedland show, you know this, this isn't news for you, I was shopping for a dress for our record of the next episode, which I'm happy to report I got.

I didn't have an opportunity to try it on because I had Oscar, my one year old, with me at the time. So, and it is, which I'm happy to report I got. I didn't have an opportunity to try it on because I had Oscar, my one year old with me at the time. So, and it is, if I get it on, it is going to be tight. He's got the Trump hands out. He's doing the side to sides. I think it's a size eight. Wow. And I'm a 10 in a lot of ways.

Yeah. So we'll see if I can pull myself in. Tim's correspondence is that the dress was for me. Yeah, I can totally because I think I'd said I'm getting it like for you. But I mean, like, as a treat for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting it for you and our listeners. But are you getting a dress for me? It sounds like this is becoming quite an adventure where we're picking out dresses for each other. Yeah. Well, that's

that's fantastic. And might I ask in return, how are you? You're good. Good. Very tired, but good. More tired than the default setting of tiredness for you? Yeah, particularly tired at the moment. I was up till 1 in the morning reconfiguring the network

at home. Did it. Well done. It's a job I've done before before and it's taken me about six days of just like trial and error because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but I did manage to knock it out last night in a couple of hours but that was it from 11 p.m. into 1 a.m. Then you go to sleep for a few hours and then the baby cries at about four and then you're awake. Yeah. And then you just get back to sleep and then the three-year old jumps in and starts kicking you right in the back.

Does the three year old sleep through the night? Remy started, he is a pretty great sleeper now, but ever since Daylight Savings happened, he now will get up and get into the bed with me, which is very cute, but wakes me up every time and I can't get back to sleep. And he's also just the right kind of length to just like kick me if I'm facing him. Yeah. Like in the stomach or in the nuts. So then I have to put my back to him. So he's just kicking me in the cat while sleeping. Dozing, you know, like he's not really his eyes are open. He will go, he will go back to sleep. Yeah. He's found a human punching bag. Yeah. So it's all love baby.

It's all love. I'll tell you what it isn't. It isn't all sleep. And I feel lacking for a coffee right now. I've already had one. I'm just fucking, I'm slamming them at the minute. I should have brought a coffee for you. Brother, that ain't on you.

I know. I've got a coffee machine here. It's on me. I know you do, but look, little peek behind the curtain. Before we came and recorded, we were at the house and your beautiful wife and a friend comes over and delivers two coffees. And I thought you're really making me look like a piece of shit. It's all good, man. I took a new route to get here.

Did you get a coffee before you came? I made a coffee at home. I had a coffee at home. Coffee and a banana. What do you think? What do you came? I made a coffee at home. I had a coffee at home. Coffee and a banana. Or what do you think of that as a breakfast? I think it's, it really sets you up for a morning shit. I'll tell you that. Like no one's business.

You're gonna stay regular, get on the fucking coffee and banana track. The coffee and a banana. I just think, I don't know anything about nutrition, but I trust the bananas. I think you do. But I trust that I don't, I know what works for me. I don't know any numbers., but I trust the bananas. I think you do. But I trust that I don't know what works for me. I don't know any numbers.

You've got a good diet. You avoid all the bad stuff I feel like. That's right, but I don't know the science behind it. I'm just like, this feels right. Yeah, but you ensure. And I trust bananas. I trust bananas. If someone told me, I don't know that there's ever

been negative press about bananas. I'll give you one. They're surprisingly radioactive. Is that bad? Well, yeah, things shouldn't be radioactive, but it's not enough to do anything to you. But like to the point where when you cross the borders in certain countries, they've got like Geiger meters to measure radioactivity and for banana trucks, they set them off every now and then.

Dang. It has to do with the amount of potassium in them. I do know there are rich sources of potassium. And I understand that's good. I don't know what potassium does for the body. Me neither, man. Who knows? Brighten into us.

Shall we? Yeah. I want to hear from our libertarian listener. One other thing I'm excited about, I sent you a photo of it. I bought myself, the whole time this year, I thought I'm working hard. I'm going to buy myself a treat. Never found the tree.

I thought it could have been anything. Could have been anything from a cocaine. It could have been cocaine. Could have been a sweater. Could have been a watch. The variable and what that could have been is like, is because I'm not. But you're just saying, for example, I coffee. I coffee was a friend of mine yesterday. He's got a roll bought himself a Rolex Submariner.

That's like one of the famous expensive watches. Did you talk about it? He did. That is the risk. Sure, it's impressive to have a Rolex Submariner. Even more impressive. Don't bring it up. I looked at it and I said, was it Submariner? He's like a Submariner, bro

I'm like, all right Submarine is so good. It's a nice look and watch but here it is the thinking man's gift to himself. Yeah When I was in Sydney, I looked up Lego because they've got the world's biggest Lego store in the Pitt Street Mall It's a great place to visit. It's a good fact And they had sold out of a model I didn't know had been released that I was interested in. Krusty Burger, the Simpsons Krusty Burger. And I thought, God damn, I'd love that.

And then I was telling Carlo about this. Carlo, a huge Lego and Simpsons fan. We actually built the Quickie Mart together. Yeah. And he said, yeah, they've just released it and you get a throne of the lounge. And I said, it's sold out. He said, oh damn, that went fast. And then I went on the, he was driving and I've just released it and you get a throne of the lounge. And I said, it's sold out. He said, oh, damn, that went fast. And then I went on the, he was driving and I went on the website and you could buy it. So I got it shipped home and arrived yesterday.

I've got the quickie mart to build and I'm like, so excited. I'm so excited. I'm stoked for you, man. I can't pretend to get it. Yeah. But then it's one of those things where like if I'm... It's mindless. We just, we... Yeah, I guess that's what it is, right?

It's sort of meditation. It is meditation. It's meditation, it's satisfying, and it's a great excuse to watch The Simpsons. I built the... It had a throw-in of The Simpsons Lounge, just a miniature that you could build. What do you mean a throw-in? Like they gave a free bonus thing, like a small throw-in of The Simpsons Lounge, just a miniature that you could build. What do you mean a throw-in? Like they gave a free bonus thing, like a small throw-in of the Simpsons Lounge. And I built that while watching the Leftorium episode, season 3 episode 2, when Ned Flanders starts the Leftorium.

And it was like, it was funny, there were some great jokes, but it had a surprising amount of heart. And Homer was a real asshole. And then he really comes full circle in the episode It was really quite moving. Yeah Anyhow, I said did it feel anachronistic because that's old now It's gone way back now. It's 25 That'd be 91 yeah

No, honestly, it didn't there was not a single thing 34 years that's a long time. Yeah. TV episodes date. Yeah. And it's it's aged beautifully. Amazing. They are unlike yourself. They have new episodes that they're trying to get me to watch. You don't need to fuck with that. Dive in the pool, baby. I'm in. This one is just actually a reference. 76 in the city colon the return part one. If you can stick it out for both EPs,

this is insane. Say my name even if it isn't. Now I've got the blurb for the episode. Okay. So this is from 15th of May 2020, 54 minutes, 76 in the city, the return part one. A vast immersive theatre show inspired by the TV show Sex and the City is constructed in the center of New York. Part one of two. That's all it says. I'm having trouble following along here. We've been sent a recommendation to listen to a podcast, to listen to a podcast about, I suppose, creating art on the back of someone else's art,

which is a Sex and City live show, a vast immersive theater show. OK. Inspired by the TV show, Sex and City is constructed in the centre of New York. Right. I'm going to download the episode. Nice one. And thank you to listener Stan for that. That's all it was. Okay. Oh, let me get something here. That's all it was. I'm going from four weeks ago. I've dug into a different mailbag from usual. And the trouble with this one is it's not purely, it's Instagram. It's a lot of people are sending us reels and stuff like that. That's right. This first one someone sent us a reel and just says, I apologize from Australia. I'm not going to open access but see someone else has sent us us something. Okay so people sending us lots of Sex in the City stuff. Oh this is a picture of the woman from Ep 1 Charlotte's Journey with the Dog. Yes I actually got told this as a piece of trivia by a friend. What is it? The woman who throws blood or red food dye at Kim Katral's fur coat in the Sex and the City movie is the same woman who attacks Charlotte about her dog in the first episode just like that.

That's what it's about. Wow. Well, Emma sucks. Well, Emma sucks. I hope you don't mind my reading your tag on Instagram, sent us that and said, I'm sure some other diligent fan has shared this with you fellas. I hadn't seen it yet, but I couldn't resist just listen to season four and the love you had for her performance tackled me. Maybe MPK sending a sign.

Much love to the Frosty fellas. Thanks, Emma. That's a hot fact. I like that there's kind of a little bit of a roster that they're holding onto some of those names, you know? Do you know what a breakthrough would be? Like what a genuine nod to us would be? Coffee Guy. Yeah. Imagine. Can you fucking imagine? Would we even know if Coffee Guy came in to end just like that? Honestly, without having brushed up, I don't know that I'd recognize him. I wouldn't either.

Because in the movie, he's there. It's quite side profile. And it's also from far away. He's in the back of shot over Sarah Jessica's shoulder. She's Sarah Jessica now, not Carrie anymore off the back of me. you get his face. You get his face. She's Sarah Jessica now not carry anymore off the back of me. Listen to the interview. Okay. I wouldn't recognize them.

I need to start checking the credits. I need to check his IMDB because that'll be on there. I think that's right. We got, we're good guys. Did we get in touch with him? Yeah we did. We found him eh? We reached out, we were trying to organise for him to come to a live show in New York.

It didn't quite work out. Coffee Guy, Sex and the City 2, movie. I don't know why, I was thinking about Tanya the other day too from grownups 2. Yeah. Wasn't that a trippy thing? Cause she came to the live show in Los Angeles. Yes. At the end of season one. Yes. Where is coffee guy? Oh, that'd be quite hard to, I wouldn't even know where to start. Sex and the City 2 full cast. Oh, thank you very much to Jen who has sent us, oh, just a response to us being angry that and just like that and Sarah Jessica Parker have not yet accepted

our co-collaborator invitations on Instagram. This is a harder platform to navigate when it comes to feedback, because I feel like there's a lot of exposition of what's going on. I have to be like, this is in response to a meme someone sent us, and here's the description of the meme, which is visual. Email, man, I didn't know how good I had it. Email's so good.

Just jump in, start reading words. Well I got a big one here on the messenger. Fellas, I just wanted you to know, I think I've identified the first episode of the original Sex and the City that should be the beginning of the worst idea of all time canon of the franchise. Spoiler alert. Season four episode 16 comes immediately after Carrie has called off her engagement with Aidan. Is that how that's spelled? It's spelled A-I-D-A-N. It's either that or D-E-N I guess. Wh who had previously agreed to buy her apartment under the assumption that they would be sharing finances as a married couple. Now that there would be marriages no more, Aidan quite reasonably expects Carrie to buy

the apartment from him or move out. Carrie then spends the entire rest of the episode complaining to her friends, some of whom have actual problems at this point, about how she can't afford to buy her apartment with the job she has. Which, how the fuck did she ever afford anything working seeming like one day a week freelance as a columnist on the precipice of the downfall of print media? And when Miranda and Samantha offer to help out financially, she doesn't accept. And when Miranda points out she spent roughly the cost of a down payment on shoes, she scoffs at the idea of selling them and insists that it's her right to both hoard designer shoes and

own her apartment while still only working seemingly part time. Charlotte is in the middle of her divorce with her first husband Trey and notably doesn't offer to help with Carrie's down payment like a sane person until eventually Carrie guilt trips her into spending the money she got in her divorce, Settlement Alimony, on Carrie's apartment down payment. The episode is top to bottom, the least relatable content in the entire show. And the fact that the writers had the gall to foreshadow Carrie's shoe obsession as the solution to the down payment and then actively choose the most insane option instead

is the beginning of the show's villain arc. Right. Anyhow, can't wait to listen to the new season of Just Like That. Insane option instead is the beginning of the show's villain arc. All right Anyhow can't wait to listen to the new season and just like that stay frosty say then say the name most of my adult friends Call me Spank spank great name great bit of correspondence. Thank you spank That sounds brutal to me in terms of a watch To see all of that unfold with our beloved gals. It sounds... this is season four episode 16 was it? Yeah. That's pretty deep into the show. Yeah, because how many seasons of the TV show are there? Six? Six, seven, eight? It's a number.

Undeniably, it's certainly not a letter. And I think it's interesting to hear. I mean, it's interesting to hear that sounds like written by a genuine fan of Sex and the City. To be able to spotlight a moment where it sort of, you know, that goes off the boil in a way which is not like, oh, I can qualify this because I support this character. Although I suppose a lot of people did. I mean, the issue is, we talk about, you know, our reading comprehension and the extracurricular work we can do to understand the characters in the show. That has not made it as far as watching or even knowing about the TV show. Well, you've taken quite a strong position on this. It's not canon. That it's not canon, which tells me that it's not an extracurricular assignment. It's, you know, brushing up on biology when you're in physics.

It's not relevant. It's not relevant. Yeah. And I, out of either convenience or adherence to your, I don't know, cohesive ideology which you've formed around this point, I back you on that. It's interesting isn't it? It's interesting how that happens. Because if I'm honest, just thought it was a funny thing to say. And it's a funny thing. It's a funny thing to go deep on the two movies

and never see the source material. Yeah, it's funny to me I wonder like Can't remember Aidan's introduction in and just like that But I wonder if there's people who I do in the movie who let of course How could you forget who swung from the show over the movies to and just like that? Because I'm sure people don't consider the movies canon People who love the show. I don't know. I We different people are as um

You know persnickety as we are People can be pretty persnickety, but I don't know if they're treating all of the sex in the cities I think their treatment of it is like, this is good and this is bad, not this counts as real and this does not. I think that's how it is. It's a very narrow way of viewing the world, isn't it? She had great things to say about marriage. SJP in the interview.

Oh. On the show. That's nice. Yeah. She was saying, I very really talk about my marriage and I'm paraphrasing a little bit she was just like you married for long enough you just figure out that it doesn't all this shit that you think matters doesn't matter hmm it's nice that is nice a nice sentiment she put

it slightly more eloquently because I bet she had had more than one coffee that day. Yeah. But I like that sentiment of just like, yeah, guess what? She was talking about how she's very confident that she annoys her husband, Matthew Broderick, who we will not get into right now. No. Why do I know that name? She's sure that she annoys him every day and he annoys her some of the time. But when you're married for long enough, it's just, that's it.

It's fine. It's all part of it. That's how it goes. That's yeah. That's beautiful. I like that sentiment. That makes me happy for them. I like that sentiment in an age of, you know, convenience.

I keep the internet is forcing me to know about sort of what's happening in the dating world among the younger generation at the moment and how, because of the advent of apps. I feel like everyone's talking about it. It's a real like point of cultural conversation. There was all the apps, no one sort of sticking with anything because you can kind of go on a million dates quite easily. So as soon as you find one thing wrong with someone, you just bail on it.

The Seinfeld, this is, I mean, they covered this in Seinfeld. This is Jerry Seinfeld. Right. All of the characters in Seinfeld. Right. The most ridiculous, particular reasons to break up with people. I actually watched, you know, Celine. Has Jerry followed that in real life? He took a very, he, well, he's, his dating history is one of many, um, sort of cultural blemishes on his curriculum Vitae. That piece of shit dated someone in high school when he had the show.

Oh yeah. Let's not dress it up, put a bow on it. Yeah. It's fucked up. So yes, he did. Don't, don't rap on your sitcoms early so you can go and pick up your girlfriend from fucking high school guy. It's actually a very, very funny piece of, there's a character comedy stand-up show in New York where

people dress up as different comedians or cultural figures and do a stand-up set and there's someone who does a Seinfeld set about you know having a girlfriend's work, homework, school. I've seen that, it's so good. And good because I think everyone's too afraid, you know, comedians in America to take pop shots about that. But it's fucked up. I mean, I understand the cultural conversation beyond the Seinfeld component of it. I didn't know that this was happening again. But that's like one of the recurring funny moments in the sitcom Seinfeld is like they are so hopelessly critical of every everyone and thing and like they're just cycling

through partners because none of them can meet whatever ludicrous which is funny in a TV show context. Yes. But then that's getting applied to your real life. You're like, oh, Celine Song, who is a was a playwright and then a writer director made the movie Past Lives, which was it was sort of like a Korean American love story spending 20 years about childhood sweethearts who, you know, lose contact and then find contact. But one of them's sort of moved. It's a really achingly I thought it was a very moving and beautiful movie has made another

movie, which I went to this week called Materialists. Oh, yeah, which is there um, was a lot more confounding for me than the past lives, which I went to this week called materialists. Oh yeah, I wanna see that. Which is, was a lot more confounding for me than the past lives, which I straight forward just loved. But this is covering modern dating and it talks about, it pushes everything through the metric of like, you know, of I suppose hard maths or data. It's like the Dakota Johnson works at a dating agency and talks, you know, like people are talking about what they want in terms of height and income, you know, and I suppose it's touching on that

same cultural moment where it's like conversation about what people are expecting from dating and relationships. Yeah, because I think that's where people are at now and I find it I find it fucked up and unseemly. Well, I'm glad to be old and I'm glad to be out. Same, bro, massively. I think a lot of TikTok content is geared towards, even the stuff that's leaking over to me over on Instagram every now and then, it's like, there's people being interviewed

about who they wanna find in a partner and they're describing these like discrete numeric characteristics of someone. I'm like, do you wanna find someone cool? Someone you might like? I'm interested in that. Are you because you're not traditionally, I feel as though you're not using the social media apps enough to find you. You're not on the dating apps anymore. I haven't seen you on there. Um, so I, have you been on Instagram more recently than historically?

Yeah, I'm sort of forcing myself on there to really, yeah. Because of the way it works with the way the world works with business and work. Well, not necessarily there. Not quite so transactional. I just feel like sort of missing certain conversations, you know? And now that you're seeing them sort of cresting over the... I used to be with that guy and then they changed what it was. It's so interesting.

It seems strange and scary. Because I think I admire and in some ways envy, not that I'm taking part in any cultural conversations, but um, admire and envy the way in which you don't know or care. Yeah. You got to pick your battles a little bit, but you, you, you bring out your weapons to bear as well. You fucking ban yourself from your phone for three quarters of the day. Well, I have to, Otherwise I'm on my phone.

Now this is an invitation to come on someone's podcast. You want me to read it to you? Yeah. Hi guys, Cathy here from The Cinemile, a podcast. I don't know, that's the other thing about etiquette with reading these, because this is, I don't know if they're intending to be on the family time.

They are now. Cathy from The Cinemile, a podcast where my husband and I record our walk home from the movies and have been doing it for the last nine years. We both love your podcast. I've started a spin off where I review and just like that. And it brought me back to your year of watching Sex and the City. And I love that you're talking about and just like that too. Would you like to come on as guests to review an episode? We take about 45 minutes and it's a gentle slagging essentially. I agree with you that I hate seeing the kids. The first

episode launched on Saturday and we jumped to number two in the Irish film and TV charts beating both the official and Just Like That podcast. I didn't know there was one. I think that's us. That's homework. I think that that's a dunk on us. Ah, true. Which I have not stopped bragging about. And congrats on that, The Cinemile. It's awesome. As a premise, that's fucking cool. Talking about something when you're walking home.

Yeah, like podcasting the walk home from this. They obviously live in a fantastic city or part of town where it's like, that's the right length. Yeah, it is nice. I wonder if they've covered the materialists or materialists, as they love to call it. I need to. Oh, OK. This is just about when we do it. Would love to, Cathy, if we can tee it up. Yeah. Would love to. Yeah, that sounds great.

Great. I'll send you a message back. We can probably already have. Here we go. Cathy is hosting a new weekly mini-series which will break down each episode of and just like that, season three with guests, new episodes every Saturday. What's that called?

Because is that different to the cinema? No, it's just like inside of the cinema. Cathy knows what she's done. Cathy, thanks for reaching out. I feel like you're coming at it from a similar angle to us, probably slightly different previous readings. I would also love a dissection of interest like that with an Irish world. Yes, that's a big thing for me too. That would be cool.

Have you got any correspondence you'd like to share, Guy? I've got a text from my little sister. What did she say? Is it Annie? Yeah. Just says who is Brianna? Yeah and that's a fucking good question everyone so that's your homework for today. Who is Brianna? Think about it, talk about it, do a little digging with your friends and figure it out and then once you have report back to us please. Who is Brianna? We will be live streaming our episode very soon. Yeah. In New Zealand time, in New Zealand parlance, 10 a.m. on Saturday morning, you do the math baby, figure it out. I'm not your dad. I can do the math. I've got enough kids. Okay Guy 10 a.m. on Saturday morning. You do the math, baby. Figure it out.

I'm not your dad. I can do the math. I got enough kids. Okay, Guy is your dad now. I am your dad. And I just wanna say, I love you exactly how you are. And how I love you is just for you.

It's for no one else. And if you wanna join us on the live stream, that will be 10 a. 10am New Zealand time, 11pm Greenwich Mean Time, aka London time, 6pm on the Friday. Yes, so 11pm Friday if you're in London, 6pm Friday if you're in New York or the East Coast of America, 3pm on Friday if you are in. Clock off early and join us. On Pacific Standard Time and of course 8am. Have it with a coffee and a banana if you're in Australia. And that will be behind the paywall at twiowat.substack.com. It's $5 a month. US because their dollars are worth way more than our dollars.

Although recently not as much. I've got to tell you, I'm very excited to see what little number you've picked out for yourself. You should be actually. Okay. You know, I'm not, I'm not going to show up unarmed this time. Good. Good.

We're going to be in the same room. unarmed this time. Good. Good. We're going to be in the same room. I can only speak for myself, but I will not have taken a bunch of ketamine the night before. You don't know that. You don't know what the future holds for you. OK.

Like, I think I have, I think I'm allowed to have some sort of sense of confidence and agency over what goes into my body between now and then. And just don't limit yourself. Don't limit what could happen. Do you know what? Today's Friday, right? Yeah. We're talking tomorrow.

That's so true. Friday night. You're saying don't like don't kneecap your night. Yeah, don't close any doors. Or your day or your morning. Yeah. Or your White House conference or whatever. Yeah.

Kidiming can be part, it can be a nutritious part of any life. Can be folded into anyone or whatever. Yeah. Ketamine can be part, it can be a nutritious part of anyone's day. Yeah. Is your company worth too much? Ketamine. Try ketamine. Bye everybody. It's the worst idea of all time. It's the worst idea. It's the worst idea of all time.