The Worst Idea Of All Time - Forty Two - Party's Over

Episode Date: May 14, 2017

GuyGuy is back and Timbo is back and they're not happy to be back because WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS is also back. Our podcast hosts are crest-fallen and truly clutching at straws now. Gone are the carefree ...days of Adam Sandler and Shaq. Wistful, are the memories of Carrie and the gals. But alas, this film has no Coffee Guy. OR DOES IT?! After an extended metaphor about the washed out party this podcast adventure has become, Timbly decides WAYF is actually about dads and Guybo share personal stories of poo and strip clubs.Trailer: Boners of The Heart Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Little Empire podcast. Visit us at littleempirepodcast.com and on Instagram at littleempirepodcasts. You're going to play that dastardly intro again. Try, try, try, try, try, try, try. Ow! This movie's still fine. This is a co-ed pastor. One of them dies, that guy's screwed.
Starting point is 00:00:18 One of them's a hothead, his name is Jay. One of them looks like Johnny Depp, and his name is Johnny Depp. Classic Maximum Joseph. I agree! Ah! is jay one of them looks like johnny dave classic maximum joseph you forget that films are supposed to have a point hello and welcome to the worst idea of all time live in beautiful auckland new zealand with myself spinley timbly Wimbly. And myself, Guy Montgomery. And you, our adoring audience. I've got to say, Tim, right out of the gates, and this is not to denigrate anyone who's in the room, there are so few people at this show,
Starting point is 00:00:59 it is worth commenting on. I don't think so. This looks like a good number. How many people are there in the room, do you think? 40? Yeah? Maybe 50? I don't know. I just remember the days. This looks like a good number. How many people are there in the room, do you think? 40. Yeah? Maybe 50. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:09 I just remember the days. What I think we've built. No, no. Follow that. I want to hear this out. What I think happened, we built something beautiful. We did. And we lived inside of it.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah. And we trashed it. Yeah. And now this is just the people who are still at the party we paid it no respect that's so true the grown-ups to era of this project was kind of like when you get an invite to a party on a set so it's saturday right and it's one of those real nice saturdays kind of like today except today's a sund, but imagine it was Saturday where it's unexpectedly sunny, and it's just like a beautiful day and no one saw it coming, and someone's like
Starting point is 00:01:49 fuck, you know what, I'm going in for barbecue and it starts at about 1 and just everyone sort of text messaging Facebook messages going around, people are like, yo, some shit is going down at Guy and Tim's flat get there now and then people turn up
Starting point is 00:02:04 this is so accurate. There's a DJ there who's just like one of our mates. It's probably Tim Lambourne who's turned up with some decks and we've just got a real sweet sound system and someone's come with a bunch of beers and just everyone's having a great time. Maybe there's a little herb going around. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But it's just like it gets hotter and hotter and then it's like 6 o'clock, which I guess would be about the Sex and the City 2 zone. No, Sex and the City 2 kicks in at 8pm. Oh, okay, yeah. I reckon. Sun has set. Yeah, it's dark, but everyone's still having a good time.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We're still throwing down. The party is rocking. But it's changed. Oh, the tone's weird. Everyone took some acid, and half the people haven't done it before they don't know
Starting point is 00:02:46 if it's good or not but everyone's heard about this party now and now it's kind of to the point where so many people are there that it can't help
Starting point is 00:02:53 but be a good thing yeah everyone's just pumped yeah and shit is getting a little bit ballistic and people are hooking up with people
Starting point is 00:02:58 they shouldn't be hooking up with and then yeah now it's 2am no later 4am okay
Starting point is 00:03:06 the only people still here are the people who haven't handled their acid and are just still awake and don't want to be alone yet yeah that is who's left on the worst idea
Starting point is 00:03:16 of all time what was once a freight train is now just a carriage with no motor absolutely somehow still on the rails so what we're trying to say is thank you
Starting point is 00:03:24 for coming out. Give yourselves a big round of applause. God bless you. God bless you all for coming. So I don't even know how many times we've seen it now. 43? Sorry, out of portent to me.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Five. And that's the other thing is that you said to me when we were watching it before, we're being very, we're so disrespectful to this movie. And what I said and rightly is, what's this movie done? This movie has done nothing for it.
Starting point is 00:03:50 This movie has given us nothing. Grown Ups 2 and Sex and City 2, we actually extracted value out of it. But this is like, there's nothing in it. There's nothing. Nothing. But that's kind of perfect though. It's like a rebalancing of things because we extracted value out of the podcast and now the podcast is doing nothing but extracting value out of Tim and Guy.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You know? That's true. It's, um... What's that called? No, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. We thought we'd beaten the title, but the title beats you, right? Right. We were like, yeah, we did it.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And we made it a good thing and no but okay look i mean because it really i this is the same feeling as near the end of last year i can't i can't care for these people i can't care for this movie i can't yeah and it's becoming really hard to find ways to talk about something which I care this little about. I can't even bother to hate it anymore. Let's start at the end then instead of the beginning. Okay. So one thing that I noticed is that this week, Zac Efron comes at the end of the movie to
Starting point is 00:05:00 inquire about a free piece of pie. I want to know what the terms and conditions of this offer are because Somaly's working in a cafe in North Hollywood and usually with those deals, you've got to buy a coffee and there's a free piece of pie or something. He obviously has no intention of buying a drink. He's just rocking in getting free pie and it makes me wonder, is he just kind of being goofy
Starting point is 00:05:24 or is there actually a cafe they're offering free cake no no no free pie tim no obviously not it's a flirt you know it's like that because their the last time they spoke their relationship was on on uncertain terms yeah they uh they they they doinked or you know speculation is rife about whether or not they had sex yeah all the kids are calling it doinking I've been hanging out
Starting point is 00:05:50 I've been hanging outside of high schools the last two months asking the kids what they call sex I've got some good information but I've got a lot of heat on me I'm in a lot of trouble Tim
Starting point is 00:05:59 but so they may or may not have doinked doinking feels like what sex is called on Doug the animated series did you doink
Starting point is 00:06:10 Patty Mayonnaise did you doink that green woman Doug but yeah so you know you know who was getting his doink wet in that show
Starting point is 00:06:20 though Skeeter yeah was he I reckon I don't know those guys they painted those characters those two leads Doug and his mate Skeeter I Yeah, was he? I reckon. I don't know. Those guys, they painted those
Starting point is 00:06:26 characters, those two leads, Doug and his mate Skeeter. I thought they were both loser virgins and I thought the hardcore bully was definitely getting his doink wet.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I've forgotten his name, Rodney? Roger? It's unimportant. He's a bad guy. What I'm trying to tell you, Tim, the relationships on...
Starting point is 00:06:40 Not a lot of Nickelodeon fans in the live audience. Hope there's some in the podcast crowd. Their relationship relationships on a lot of nickelodeon fans in the live audience hope there's some of the podcast crowd uh the the the relationship was on on uncertain terms and so she you know that that whole pie engagement that had been set up when he went and visited her before yeah when he was processed when he was processing the grief of a squirrel dying and he'd seen james reed and he heard that she went to this cafe sorry which j which James Reid? Obviously from the feelers.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah, right. And so he goes out and visits her, and they have a little riff, because they're trying to get... She's too quick off the mark, though. That's the thing that tipped me off to it. It's like, hey, I'm here to inquire about that free piece of pie I saw advertised,
Starting point is 00:07:21 and she's like, oh yeah, that's only on Thursdays. She's not clever enough to go with the rules. No, but that's the second, you missed the whole first interaction. The first time he goes there, that's when the nerve, there's a few butterflies in the basket, there's nerves. There's nerves, and they're talking to each other.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And you know when you see someone and your heart jumps up and you sort of just, you fumble around to say whatever you can. No, I'm a cool customer, obviously. Yeah, yeah, the way you said cool customer. Executed that sentence. No, I'm very confident. I look confident, don't I?
Starting point is 00:07:51 That's you. And they have that conversation and that's where the offer comes out. It's just them trying to process how they feel about one another. So then he goes away and when he comes back, he's keeping the joke alive.
Starting point is 00:08:06 That's an inside joke. That's the basis pretty much of the opening of any relationship. I'd say that's a... I think all relationships between people, lovers, are built... The way that you build them, the way people flirt, it's inside jokes. Right or wrong? Right or wrong? Audience?
Starting point is 00:08:20 I just want to ask you, this first version of the interaction you're talking about where you had butterflies in his stomach, is this something that happened off screen? No, it's in the movie. He goes to the cafe, he skateboards to the cafe, puts his dick in someone's flat white, he walks in. It's the same day, David. It's not the same day.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Isn't it? No. How many fucking times? 43, I think. They go outside, remember. They go outside. They go outside and they play that song. It's like do, do, do, do. They play like a theme song for we're putting the movie back together.
Starting point is 00:08:51 We've pulled it apart. You'd think I would have known that by now. But you're right. It's not the same day at all. No. Yeah. And also I think I really stumbled into something with that whole relationships are built on inside jokes. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And I got nothing from you or the audience. Hey, there's a sexy little double entendre that you've stumbled on there too. Or just dirty. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. Good on you. Way to rise above it. I think you're probably right.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Not voluntarily. I just didn't have an opportunity to get on, but I don't understand what the double entendre was. I got nothing. You said inside jokes are the foundation of lovers. Inside jokes? Inside? I'll keep saying it until you get it.
Starting point is 00:09:37 There's nothing to get. That's not a double entendre. That's you being disgusting. Hey, potato, potato. And there are ways to have sexual relations without anything being inserted inside of anything. There's external relations. Yeah, true, but you know.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Hand jobs. Sure. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure they're all... There's still something inside your hand, though. I would argue. No, but the difference is that there's an open hole at the end. And so, unless you give a hand job by gripping the penis from the top. I'm inside my t-shirt right now but I'm popping up the top of it. I would argue it's like this this great Bojack
Starting point is 00:10:13 Horseman t-shirt which funnily enough was a gift from my fiancee I would say I'm inside of. Yeah no one says like a handjob. Two things no one says. I'm inside this T-shirt, and I'm inside this handjob. Like, I can't... Would you guys think... Do you think a handjob is an external sexual act? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So, do you agree that Tim's insane? So, anyway, the double entendre doesn't work. But do you think... And that's them trying to build the relationship back up. They started on dicey territory, obviously, because of the infidelity. What gets me is you think that you're some sort of relationship guru because you've stumbled onto basic human interaction.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Like, here's this amazing thing I figured out. When people are going to fuck, they have a conversation first and they exchange information that they have in common. I'm a genius. No, you're not. You're not fuck specific. I'm talking about relationships.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You're such a... You are just a little horn boy. Speaking of relationships, what's going on with you and me, dude? Oh, man. I feel like this was a joyous occasion. I was just a little horn boy Speaking of relationships What's going on with you and me dude? Oh man I feel like this was a joyous occasion We've been in the same room In a god damn fortnight
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah man It's wonderful to see you And I feel like we're bickering Like an old married couple Of course we're bickering But this is healthy What we're doing Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:39 This is literally us Finding ways to talk about Anything outside of The hour and 35 minutes. It's true. We spent in the hellscape painted by Maximum Joseph and Megan Oppenheimer. This is two people struggling together. I'll be honest, everyone listening, including people in the room.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We did screw up, as we are known to do, with our time management skills. So there was a portion of the movie that we had to play in four times normal speed to catch up and we did it again and fuck it was gripping because i couldn't quite figure out what was going on but as soon as i like kind of did the math and we were like okay this isn't going to quite work out so we got to pace this up and i did it and i was like shit and i was right in there for that brief period about about 10 minutes we were doing it. It creates a real sense of urgency, doesn't it? Yeah. Suddenly all these sort of long, loping offers are very important. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And they're just firing at you like a mile a minute. And it was cool. It was cool until one of the several musical montages that they used to glue together the film, the stray parts of drama that they think they've captured on screen, that they just literally attach to another bit with just a few fast cuts and some electronic music. When you listen to that music
Starting point is 00:12:54 with the visuals at four times speed, it made me quite nauseous. Well, it used to be at 80 beats per minute, which, as we all know, is dubstep because that's 160 cut to half speed. But suddenly you speed it up and we're dealing with house, which no one likes. That's the problem. BPM.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And this movie has not aged well, because house music's coming back. EDM's on the back. I don't know. That's weird you say that. I was just having a conversation recently with someone about house music. Is it back? House is in, or it's coming in? I was into house
Starting point is 00:13:25 and i hate it now but i think i want to get back in the pool i've been listening to so much house music lately yeah yeah i ride my bike to it i go faster you know carl cox was here in auckland recently and i missed it because i didn't know was he here to perform or just on holiday no he was here to perform he did a gig i could on him on him. Yeah, man. Do you think Cal Cox ever goes anywhere just for a break? Nah. The dude lives for music. He's like the physical manifestation in the real world of James Reid of the Feelers before he burnt out with alcoholism.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Again, I'm talking about James Reid from the Feelers and our version of him because I know I'm getting dangerously close to some home truths about our boy from hometown. Do you think James Reid from the Feelers Okay, now I don't know which one we're talking about. Knows the podcast. Home truths about our boy from hometown. Do you think James Reid from The Feelers... Okay, now I don't know which one we're talking about. Knows the podcast... Our one or New Zealand's one? New Zealand's James Reid from The Feelers.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Does he know... I mean, have they been looking at their Spotify listens and be like, we've got a little spike in America. Hmm. I wonder what we can attribute this to. It's me playing Fishing for Lisa on my phone down a microphone once, you know? Yeah, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And that song, I used to, you know, when I wanted to feel emotions in high school, I'd put it on. Try and cry, which now I say it out loud, that sounds like what a sociopath does
Starting point is 00:14:33 to learn how to broadcast emotions. And that might be what I was doing. What I'm trying to say though is they got it wrong. So they rag on house music, house music on the up. It's a lot about promotion, right? These guys are trying to get a name for themselves so much that happens on social media now they avoid social media which i think is smart for movies to do because you know you
Starting point is 00:14:54 see phones like if you watch the oc now yeah what dates that movie is they were cutting edge of the time so phones in fashion and the phones in fashion is why it's still an enjoyable thing to revisit because it's such a beautiful little moment in time. I need to slow you down just a half. Okay. Half a beat there, mate. Sure, yeah. I'm following what you're saying, but only just. So we're in the OC.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm just trying to articulate my... And the other thing, because they don't use social media at all in the film, the only reference to social media in the movie Is they reference Vine once I'll put you in a Vine You bet on the wrong fucking horse we are your friends That's so funny
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's literally the only digital platform they reference by name They could choose four at the time Twitter, Instagram, Vine or Facebook Go for it, pick any You could have picked MySpace And it would be A more relevant reference For the modern age Than Vine
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I've told you before I've got a great idea For a Vine Yeah this seems worth Bringing up in the podcast Go on I don't know Well no I don't want to
Starting point is 00:15:55 Say it on the podcast Because Oh because someone will do it Well no they won't do it But like The beauty of this Vine Is I feel like you have to
Starting point is 00:16:04 Describe it No no no I'm have to describe it now. No, no, no. I'm going to make it this week. It's a really simple little vine. It's good, though. I can vouch for that. He's come up with a real pearler of an idea.
Starting point is 00:16:13 When I make it, I'll put it on the Facebook page. Everyone can check out my... I mean, you'll see it before then because it's going to go viral. Do we still call it a... What is a vine nowadays? Because if vine's gone, is it just like a short video? That isn't a... No, I think, well, like Instagram's...
Starting point is 00:16:27 Weirdly, Instagram started looping their video content, I think. So, like, it can go longer. But, I mean, Twitter must be fuming. Oh, mate. Wouldn't you just be livid? You would be. Well, I mean, you'd also be a billionaire who works for Twitter. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It's weird, eh? Companies are weird. Like, they start for Twitter. Yeah, that's true. It's weird, eh? Companies are weird. They start for nothing and then they're worth something. And then if they go too long, they're worth nothing again. We're like a company, Tim. We are the Enron of the podcasting world. That's for sure. Except no one got out with all the money.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. You know, at least with Enron, There was one guy in particular Called Lou Pye Who managed to He was like one of the big Big big big big Management dudes And he fucked off Just before the shit went down
Starting point is 00:17:12 Legend And he got away with it And he became like I think the The single largest landowner In In Montana
Starting point is 00:17:21 I think He bought a bunch of land somewhere Fucking good on him. He left. There's such a conspicuous way to do it as well, to be like, I'm getting out and I'm just going to buy more land than anyone has or does currently own in Montana. There is a story about Lupi.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So he loved strippers, right? This guy who was at Enron. And he once joked when he was out with the boys on a Friday night from Enron that they would say, Lupai, you're always out with these strippers. When you get home, doesn't your wife ever smell the perfume on you? And he says, I've got this great trick. I always stop at a gas station on the way and splash some gasoline on my collar
Starting point is 00:18:04 and it kills the scent and then apparently one of the lower downs said but doesn't your wife think you're fucking a gas station and that fucking employee got moved to alaska or something like the next day oh man take a joke yeah also dude couldn't strategize what you put gasoline on your shirt yeah well that's a pretty powerful scent though, isn't it? It's going to overpower Chanel No. 5. I think I would sooner come home with the faint musk of perfume and be like, yeah, me and the boys went to a strip club and come home reeking of gasoline
Starting point is 00:18:35 and be like, don't ask questions, babe. How many times do you... What's more troubling? Your husband going to a strip club once in a while or your husband coming home at 3 a.m drunk stinking of gasoline it's option b that's fucking weird how many times do you think you can come home smelling like perfume before it's like a thing though because i feel like you get away with the gas thing a lot more often i know man i do the record i think the good advice
Starting point is 00:19:03 is if you're married don't go to strip clubs that often. No, I don't care. At least you're with your wife. Yeah, I don't care for the strip clubs myself. I went once and I got, I went once and look, I'll say this on the podcast. I had so much absence and ecstasy. I was truly charging in a way that I have probably not charged before or since.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And I woke up in the morning. I had, this is all incriminating stuff, but I'd had two ecstasy pills in my pocket. I was like, oh, I have one ecstasy pill for the night. Because I don't know if you guys have tried this drug ecstasy. It makes everything excellent. And I woke up and i was missing two in the morning i was like someone stole my i just took two and while i went in there and someone bought me a i can't remember who someone bought bought me a lap dance and i got told off for talking too much that's awesome
Starting point is 00:20:00 firstly that doesn't surprise me at all. But who was your mate who bought you a lap dance? Their name is James. Is it Jono? No, his name is James. Oh, it legitimately is James. Yeah. What a legend. Those things aren't cheap.
Starting point is 00:20:15 No, no. But yeah, I talked for half an hour straight. I don't even think I looked at this girl. Who told you off as well was it her or she was like I've got to go do something and then came back
Starting point is 00:20:28 and someone else was like hey you gotta so I've never really been back you know that's okay so I don't think I'm going to run into this problem that this former Enron executive did yeah
Starting point is 00:20:44 unless I get addicted to Swimming in gasoline Then you've got to start visiting Increasing amounts of strip clubs To throw your partner off the scent I think that order of events is all wrong You're still going to smell like gasoline And it's like have you been fucking a strimmer
Starting point is 00:21:00 In a gas pile again Montgomery You get home at 5am Very poor every week it's no good oh man so what number are we up to I feel like this is
Starting point is 00:21:10 an important thing that I need to figure out why is it 44 do you guys know no one knows no one gives a shit and that's the problem
Starting point is 00:21:17 everyone has checked out including us it's terrible it's our job this is supposed to be the big grand last bit I think we knew after about 20 weeks it was not how this would end and this is appropriate It's our job. This is supposed to be the big, grand, last bit.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I think we knew after about 20 weeks it was not how this would end. And this is appropriate. We're both looking quite gaunt at the moment. And I think, I mean, you know, it's good to live the brand. And we are, man. Yeah. We're tired. I think we're both probably quite sick, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, I think you're right at the moment. We're not at our healthiest. Good set up in this room, though, huh? Really beautiful. We've got a fake plant, which is reminding me of what real plants look like when they're healthy. And we've got a lovely lamp from the 50s, I would say. Anything at all that you might have noticed in the movie this week that you hadn't noticed before or I haven't noticed before or you did notice and made a mental note but didn't tell me out loud while we were watching it's a movie about dads is what i think you know you might not get that on your first 40 watches
Starting point is 00:22:14 but on the 43rd or 4th that's when it starts really drilling into your head how how how how well obviously the biggest breadcrumb of all is rich, Ziccoli's dad, who we see in child form in some sort of spectral, intergenerational, timeless entity belonging to Tanya Romero. Also, for some reason the editor felt it important... Guy's got his hand up. Let me just finish this one out. Guy's got his hand up. Let me just finish this one out. The editor found it important enough, and I'm assuming this is under the direction of Maximum Joseph, to keep in what appears to be just a little throwaway line
Starting point is 00:22:56 from Johnny Depp where he says, See ya, pops. Yeah. And Jar Dad is in there, and he gets a couple of mentions, and you're just like, but why? What's going on here? Why are there all these disparate mentions of fathers
Starting point is 00:23:10 that don't seem to add anything to the plot until you consider the fact that this is a film about modern masculinity and what it means to be a man, and that's why it's a dad film. Almost worked. My question was, I'd love to unpack that,
Starting point is 00:23:29 but before we get to it, just before I forget to ask, so Tanya Romero is in control of Ziccoli's father in some way. Spectral form. Spectral form, like of Richard, her child,
Starting point is 00:23:39 who is also obviously Ziccoli's father. Do you think then, because I've always, you know, confusingly in terms of screenwriting the save the cat moment if you will
Starting point is 00:23:49 is deep into the credits when Ziccoli gives the shoebox of money to Tanya Romero we'll just say quickly saving the cat is something you do in a movie script
Starting point is 00:23:58 where you've got to imbue the main character with like a good deed to make them the hero so everyone's backing them Ziccoli is a I mean everyone is essentially a baddie in the film yeah character with like a good yeah deed yeah exactly them the hero so everyone's backing them zicoli is a i mean everyone is essentially a baddie in the film yeah so and at this moment where he saves
Starting point is 00:24:10 the cat where he gives them he's like i actually i do have i have some sort of you know moral compass and i will return the money that i earned by being a shyster to tanya romero who's the only person i actually built a personal relationship with who i then ripped off yeah i'm wondering if this completely removes any moral value from it because he's he's not doing that because he's like as feels remorse he's doing that because he's terrified of the power that she wields and the fact that she can control a spectral like a spectral version of his father is that what you're telling me yes so that completely undermines that moment where they're trying sort of you know yeah because then it's no longer uh altruistic it is a purely transactional
Starting point is 00:24:52 yeah feat of just being like this is the custodian of my dad's spirit i need to give her money i need to keep them on side yeah yeah i mean ripping them off ripping the custodian of your dad's spirit off from their house is such a risky move, isn't it? It's bold. I'll tell you what, if I knew that there was someone who was keeping my father's spirit, one of the last things I would do is rip them off, I reckon. But if you did, would you then try and make right of it? Well, this is what I'm trying to tell you. I just don't think I'd do it in the first...
Starting point is 00:25:25 It just seems like such an unnecessary risk to take. So then we've now got to consider the possibility that Ziccoli didn't know that Tanya Romero was the custodian of his dad's spirit until after the swindle had happened. Okay, so here's the timeline of events. So we go to Tanya Romero's house The bamboozle takes place
Starting point is 00:25:47 And then subsequent to that He puts the pieces together And figures out that his mum is a mermaid Who lives beneath the sea Who plays piano And her father has been trapped in A child who is now under the stewardship Of Tanya Romero
Starting point is 00:26:03 Which really makes you believe in fate, doesn't it? Of all the houses in all the world that he could have ripped off, fate sent him there. With Paige. In Greek mythology, the fates is wind, I think. Fates in the wind. I don't know enough to bring it up. I thought the fates were the witches. Are they not quite witches?
Starting point is 00:26:24 No, you're thinking of Macbeth. Am I? Yeah, you're thinking of the movie Macbeth. The well-known film Macbeth starring Mel Gibson. Yeah, definitely. Oh, man. This is all crazy stuff to me. You know?
Starting point is 00:26:40 It is. But you've got to think about it every now and then. Sometimes the movie will present as being about EDM music, dance tracks, drug use, and what did you call it before? Doinking between young consenting adults. But it isn't. It's about dads. It's about spirits.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's about fate. I guess, you know, and it has to be at some point. If we keep going, it could be, do you know, I can't remember if I said this on the podcast or not. I, it was last week I thought it, but I, when we were watching the movie today, I was like, do you know, we made a mistake in choosing where are your friends
Starting point is 00:27:19 and what we actually should have. This is literally the first time I've ever heard you say that out loud. Oh, I mean. It's like hearing that, it's like's literally the first time I've ever heard you say that out loud. Oh, I mean... It's like hearing that... It's like hearing for the first time in a marriage, I think I want to get a divorce. Like, that's impactful,
Starting point is 00:27:32 and you just glossed the fuck over it, dude. It's... Yeah. But we... You know the way... Like, the reason... If we wanted this room to be full right now yeah we
Starting point is 00:27:47 we should have done Sex and the City 2 we should have doubled up I did mention heartily that we were
Starting point is 00:27:54 that we should have done that for season don't worry this isn't a threat that we're going to do it we're not doing it but I did mention that at the time
Starting point is 00:28:00 that it would have been a good idea well no we talked about it we were like that's the funniest possible the funniest possible thing that we could have done at the end of season two. We genuinely said no in interest of our own mental health.
Starting point is 00:28:09 That is end on heart. Season three, we're doing Sex and the City 2. Yeah. And then it's 104 times. Yeah. But like, yeah, because we wouldn't be healthy. No. But the room would be full. So it's a balance isn't it
Starting point is 00:28:27 But I actually Because it seems to be All quiet on the western front In terms of sequels For the sequels We've already watched Which as we know Is the
Starting point is 00:28:36 Contractual obligation Well Do you know that Sandy Wexler The new Netflix Sandler film Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:44 I've seen it pop up on my feed, recommended to me a few times, bruh. What about it? Got some pretty good reviews. Has it? Yeah. Should we watch that? Probably.
Starting point is 00:28:52 We should give that a watch. Just for fun. Yeah. Let's not document it in any way. Let's, you and me, and this is why the relationship's gone weird. Yeah. It's because we've both had so much on
Starting point is 00:29:03 that literally the only snatches of time we have now is spent doing that. This is like, you're watching two very old friends catch up through the worst possible vessel. Like, yeah. You're watching, this isn't the podcast so much,
Starting point is 00:29:19 you're watching a couple of boys just figure out, you know, where they're at with each other now. There's something to that though. You know, we're in a very voy boys just figure out where they're at with each other now. There's something to that, though. We're in a very voyeuristic time in human history. I'd pay money to see two boys sniff each other's butts and figure it out for a while. I was telling comedian Rhys Mathieson the other day, because he was saying he doesn't like Twitter, he doesn't like Instagram. I was like, but people love it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You've got to broadcast everything, man. He's like, I don't want to. I was like, but you've got to yeah you don't though and if anything's taught me that it's we are your friends we're the only social media
Starting point is 00:29:52 network mentioned is Vine you know you don't have to be on there all the time and they're like they're promoters for god damn
Starting point is 00:29:59 gigs and they're not even on like Facebook or Twitter or anything yeah it's insane tim i'll ask you this i think the timing is right for those of you listening at home we are i do and the and oh my bad sorry you had another question for me you're already engaged dude that ship has sailed
Starting point is 00:30:18 you know i disagree with that relationship yeah um what I was going to say though is, you know, because we're at the end of the, we're sort of, or near the end of the New Zealand International Comedy Festival, self-promotion, how do you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Like, how do you, I mean, because it's so, you watch all these people, you watch all these other comedians online being like, come to my show, come to my show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Can you take it anymore? I'm pretty sure I had a breakdown two days ago because of self-promotion. Partially my own, a lot of it other people's. But see, the problem that you have, and we'll return to the movie in just one moment. The problem that you have is that you go on Facebook to promote your own stuff and then you stay on after that.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I'll just dip in, scream at everyone to go to my shows and then fuck off again. And I won't hear everyone else screaming into the void. For instance, on my browser now, on my computer, I've installed a plugin called News Feed Eradicator and
Starting point is 00:31:15 you don't get the news feed. When you go onto Facebook, instead of getting everyone's news feed, you just get an inspirational quote of varying quality. What the fuck? Are you serious? Yeah, so you get your notifications, your messages, any friend requests and you get none of the shit
Starting point is 00:31:28 that everyone's doing. But then when I go on my phone, I get everything. And I read it all. I don't doubt it. I think it's just driven me to my phone. I just,
Starting point is 00:31:40 I just reached breaking point on, what day is it today? Sunday. Friday. Where I've been, where i've been so i've been doing festivals for two months now and i i was like i have crossed it like and i'm usually okay with it but i've crossed over and i was like i'm now actually quite sad oh not a good thing in a comedy festival no it's bad i mean the show the show was still outstanding the runs finished by the way i hope so you got to see it um but i I was just like, fuck, this is too hard to keep telling everyone to come and watch you.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's so bleak. Yeah, fuck this. They should want to do that themselves. I know. I shouldn't have to tell people. That's the thing, eh? You just want to be good enough that people decide to come. And maybe that's what's crazy in the movie is they're not good enough yet.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Oh, they're flowering. That's old media that's old media self promo i'm getting warm can you talk while i take my sweater off yeah sure all this merch is available after the show by the way don't throw that in the podcast let's talk about that off the microphone thank you very much guy montgomery um i tell you what though, the varying speeds is enough to keep me entranced with the film now. I just need something to be different. To the point where I'm thinking maybe next week we get a bit of colour correction going on. Maybe just
Starting point is 00:32:53 give it like a pink hue to see if we can kind of detect any background nonsense that was going on. I would be open to any suggestions on how to alter the viewing experience. I mean, usually we're on this, but I'll throw to the audience.
Starting point is 00:33:07 If any of you guys have got any idea, have you ever thought of a different way to watch? Is there anything you can think of off the top of your heads immediately? Invert the colors
Starting point is 00:33:13 so it's like in a negative version of itself. Sounds like what you're going to get. You could almost call that behind the scenes of Where Are Your Friends, couldn't you?
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's just like an x-ray version. Yeah, it is. That'd be pretty cool. I'd be into that. Just anything. Does it count as a watch? Do you know, this is the thing. That's. Yeah, it is. That'd be pretty cool. I'd be into that. Just anything. Does it count as a watch? Do you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 this is the thing. That's what I'm obsessed with. That does count as a watch, but the trouble is, the trouble is, and the crazy thing is, this is, the trouble is,
Starting point is 00:33:34 no matter what we do, Here's the trouble, folks. If we invert the colours, all the content is the same. And what I'm now, what I'm now struggling to reconcile, Oh, sorry. Talk to me.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Okay, so what I actually, I forgot, but I was thinking about this the other day. What if we got the movie and completely reversed it? So like every, the whole thing plays backwards, back to front. Like frame to frame. We watch it in rewind. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But at normal speed, but just flipped in reverse. Is that possible?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. It's easy easy I think well you could just put it into movie editing software and go reverse and then spit it out and we could watch that and when I say you
Starting point is 00:34:14 obviously I mean me yeah yeah I'll be there when we watch it though and you'll look real stressed because you've just been figuring out how to do it and I'll be like
Starting point is 00:34:22 you're good man and you'll be like yeah you just gotta do this thing and then I'll go on my phone. I'll read everything on Facebook. Fuck. It is. The honesty is brutal.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This is exactly how shit transpires. No, that sounds good to me. But what the. That wouldn't count though, eh? No, that doesn't count. Yeah. So then it's. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Then there's no value in it. Do you know what we're watching tomorrow morning? God is not dead. God's not dead. It's not dead. God's not dead. It's a contraction. God's not dead. For the Patreon. People have been so desperate for us to watch that film
Starting point is 00:34:54 for such a long time and it finally won the vote on Patreon and people are ecstatic. Outside of Tim making sure that I would be here for this live podcast event, the only other correspondence I've had with him in the last three days is him messaging me being like, Hey you free early monday morning for a
Starting point is 00:35:08 watch all right yeah man and how's everything going with you are you happy here no he's not oh no but we're cool I think we're alright I bought these new shoes They're fucking stunners too Yeah I'm pretty pumped up on them They're Reeboks eh? Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:31 Adidas Yeah like I said Oh now we're Adidas boys Adidas own Reebok But yours are actually New Can I say I saw this In the film this week?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah Actually I'm not gonna give you pre-consent I want to hear what it is and then I'll say if you can say it That sounds like a trap, dude Well, what you're doing sounds like a trap to me What? Well, you wrote me into this Well, you wrote me into this
Starting point is 00:35:58 Well, that guy here wrote me into this When's that second episode coming out? Justin Roiland, who I hope sincerely listens to the podcast. But what a great goof that everyone was so obsessed with like,
Starting point is 00:36:12 when's the next Rick and Morty season? When is it out? When is it out? I'm pretty sure that the way that he released it is he was on Twitter and someone was just like tagging him in
Starting point is 00:36:21 like a million people have done before and one day he was like, here it is. And it was. And he's only just released that one episode and that's it. It's a pretty cool move. So good.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh, anyway. You see this when we caught up today. The first thing Tim said to me was, my kingdom for a day off. Yeah. I would give anything to just hole up and watch some Rick and Morty, you know. Fucking A. It's when you, I'm sure that you've been having this. Although you, I have to say, you look good.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You look all right. But I've been looking at myself in the mirror when I wake up and just been like, I look fucking exhausted. It was like, those are tired eyes. This is a tired wee boy. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, you got real tired. You look, nah, you look, you're all right, man.
Starting point is 00:37:05 If you weren't engaged, I would propose to you and you'd know that. Yeah, man. Yeah, you got real tired. You look... No, you look... You're all right, man. If you weren't engaged, I would propose to you and you'd know that. Yeah, I do. Worries me a lot. Hey, where were you going with that question that you needed my...
Starting point is 00:37:13 All I'm saying is this. So, it's so difficult to pay attention and then also to notice anything new in the film. But what I enjoyed this week, I put the pieces together. There's so many
Starting point is 00:37:23 just sloppy bits. Oh, fuck. There's two points I want to make. I'll get to this one secondly the first one is in an extension of what we were talking about uh with the whole it's the same content so we can inverse the colors it's still the same content and and what i'm having trouble reconciling is that it is the same content and yet every week my way of trying to deal with it is that i imagine they're turning in a different different performance right i like to I imagine they're turning in a different performance, right? I like to think that they're actors in a play and so there are subtle differences. And so I hate that we can find ways to try and tweak what's happening,
Starting point is 00:37:56 but ultimately we're going to face the same problem. So that's the first thing I wanted to say because I didn't finish that point earlier. The second thing is this movie is so paper thin that they're looking for anything to create some sort of connective tissue through the different scenes or whatever beyond just making elk trunk dance music montages that they were like they they went to the trouble of writing into the script and then filming shooting and editing into the film jahid watching documentary footage of lions on the plains of the serengeti yeah and then, like, you know, 45 minutes later, in a scene where he has his shirt off,
Starting point is 00:38:28 they reveal that he also has a tattoo of a lion, a male lion, on his left pec. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's content. That's theme. One of the characters likes lions. And that's a real plot point for Jarhead as a character because he's like he's the alpha dog is the king of the jungle Yeah, that's the thing. He's a lion. You can see what they're doing. Yeah, you can but because they tattooed it onto his chair
Starting point is 00:38:55 Is it still it's like it's one of those things where is it still a metaphor if someone comes up to you and goes This is what I'm doing with this Yeah Whenever you have to say it's the same as explaining the joke right you've already lost you're like explaining the joke dissecting a frog you know how does that saying go it doesn't go like that because if you're dissecting a frog a lot of people don't understand you know you've got to explain what's happening it's like what are you doing to that frog maybe i think it's it's actually like dissecting a joke is like dissecting a frog.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Once the frog is... Where they're both... Fuck, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Figure it out. Or your vision. You know what I'd rather do instead? Five, six, seven, eight.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Getting sentimental with James Reid Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Bob Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because we say it every goddamn week, is that a sentimental gift has been produced from James Reid of The Feelers, gifted to That felt so good. our young crying DJ, Zicole. And you know what's in there this week? It's fucking a pint-sized coffee guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 In the box. Tiny coffee guy. Like a little Trojan horse. It seems like a gift, and then you get him, and it's like, look at this little pint-sized cutie. He's like a man, but he's all miniaturised, and he's got a little pot of coffee with him at all times. What are you fishing out of your pocket?
Starting point is 00:41:16 I've got a plan, because... Oh, should I not have revealed that? No, no, no. Is that me pulling the curtain? You're good to go, man. I'm just gonna because i we tried as i've said before we reached out to the coffee guy when we were in new york trying to do the last live show for six and city two do you want me to talk while you drive your
Starting point is 00:41:33 phone because i know it's hard to do both no i'm going okay and uh and we did we messaged him and we're like hey man do you want to come along like everyone will go crazy for you if you come along you'll be a regular tanya yeah you'll be a regular tanya and uh he said i would i would he was sort of confused he was like yeah i would like to but i'm working and so and that was my correspondence with him this guy for like the coffee guy the guy who would just you know champion for a year and then three months later or maybe even six months later, because I'd messaged him, I found his name, I found him on Facebook and sent him a message.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, that's all normal stuff. That's cool. Six months later, I'm just trying to remember his name, I got a message from him on Facebook out of the blue, just being like, hey, man, how's everything going? And I don't think I responded. And I'm just thinking now, I'm like, that's probably a cry for help. Like, who asked someone who messaged him out of the blue six months before?
Starting point is 00:42:31 A really lovely, caring dude who received a message from someone going, Hey dude, I'm in New Zealand, I do this podcast with my friend Tim, and we watch Sex and the City 2 and review it every week for 52 weeks. Just wondering if you wanted to join us for a live record. Out of the blue. And then he's going to be like, Nah, sorry dude. Bit busy that day. Before you've even given him the date.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But then like six months later, it's playing on his conscience that you might have flipped out and thrown yourself off a bridge. So he wants to check that you're still with her. He's looking out for me. I think so. Well, I didn't respond. So as far as he knows, I am cooked. Well, I didn't respond so as far as he knows,
Starting point is 00:43:06 I am cooked. Oh, no. And he's not far off. I can't find him. There's just so many people in this movie. Oh, coffee shop guy, Tom Stratford. Coffee shop guy,
Starting point is 00:43:17 uncredited, which is bullshit. I don't know if anyone here or listening has got access to the back end of IMDB but let's sort this boy out with a fucking credit. Tom Stratford. Okay, so now I'm going to go on to Facebook Messenger.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I'm just going to reach out to Tom. While you're doing that, let me just see if I can elaborate a little bit about this sentimental gift. So, like, when you think you're getting a MacBook Pro, brand new from the Apple store, and it turns out what you're getting is a tiny caffeinated man you can go a few ways with it you can be like super grateful that you're this is what he said in charge of someone maybe you've always wanted to be a father getting back to the dad motif of this film and like you've never been able to father a child of your own so you see a little 40 year old dude who's all hopped up on java all the time you're like that'll do what have you found uh i'm just uh i was he said the last what he sent me was
Starting point is 00:44:12 just said just a note to say hi and ask how's all going by you uh and so it's lovely and so now i'm writing back saying really well thanks tom I was actually just talking about you. How are you going? So in addition to the quiet, I'm trying to think of the right word. I hope he's online. It's quite an insane exchange to just like go, hey, this is me. I'm from New Zealand. I do comedy and I do this podcast and this is what it is and come on our show and he goes nah I'm okay
Starting point is 00:44:47 busy sorry and then he's like but how are you bro and then you're like oh I was just talking about you again no
Starting point is 00:44:55 the best part is so glad you got in touch Tom our entire correspondence is six months apart like this is madness have you sent him a message now yeah I just did I don't I write exactly what I said I would which sorry what was that I was
Starting point is 00:45:11 just it was responding to the question he asked almost a year ago saying yeah really well thank oh sorry fuck okay I'm with you I thought you sent that message a while ago saying I was just talking I just seen that one second ago gotcha alright roll on board we're're back. We're back. We've got him on the hook. We've got the coffee but we've put a java bean on a fish hook. What's the time difference between us
Starting point is 00:45:33 and New York? Because that's where he was last time, eh? Six. Thank you so much. So then, if we go... Nerd! If someone... You just walk around with all the time differences in your head, do do you You fucking nerd It was an American Get out
Starting point is 00:45:46 Are you from New York Yourself Yeah it was an American Hey I'm moving over man I could use any help When I get there So you go 8 hours Forward or back
Starting point is 00:45:56 To figure it out You go 8 hours back Okay so right now It's 4 o'clock 12 o'clock 6am No 8am It's 8am He might be online This guy is so Okay, so right now it's 4 o'clock, 12 o'clock, 6 a.m. No, 8 a.m. It's 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:46:06 He might be online. This guy is so good. This big, burly man is so sure it's midnight. Oh, it's midnight. Well, then we go forward. Oh, it doesn't matter. But the amount of coffee this guy puts away, he'll be up no matter what. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:46:18 That's a good point. The beauty of it is time difference don't matter when you're on his clock. That's a good point. So James Reid has somehow found, acquired, and gifted a tiny living version of this. Yes. And what's his relationship? What's he going to do with them? Well, see, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's self-serving, of course. Or it may or may not be. Well, it is. Always, of course. So what it is, interestingly, is it's like kind of a son figure for James Reid from The Feelers. Like it's like a little son of his that he's giving away.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But for Zuccoli, the crying DJ, it's like a father figure. Strengthening the dad motif of this film. So what James Reid from The Feelers is trying to set up is a relationship with Zucikoli where he is sort of his spiritual grandfather. See, that's a real power play. I mean, to try and be on the same level. Well, it's like going and, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I'm loathe to get too much into this, but it's kind of like he's completely misread the situation. That's basically what's happened. James Reid from The Feelers is not very good at human interaction. He's like, hey, couldn't help but notice you don't have a dad. Here's a tiny one that drinks coffee all the time. And it's like, no, dude. I know that you sort of mean well, but that's not.
Starting point is 00:47:40 You can't just gift people dads. Creating more questions than answers at that point. What, you've found a tiny person with nothing else to do, but role play as my father? Exactly. And plus, we both know that my dad is alive and well, trapped in the body of an eight-year-old under the stewardship of Tanya Romero.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Can I ask you this question? Please do. How tiny is Tiny Coffee Guy? Well, small enough to fit in a MacBook Pro box, and not in the way you'd think. So his height isn't... His height isn't determined by the length of the box, but from, like, sole of his foot to top of his head
Starting point is 00:48:16 is the, like... How do you... What is that called? Width? No, that's not width. Depth is the depth of the box. What was the movie? It was the Indian in the Cupboard? Yeah. He's not width. Depth is the depth of the box. What was the movie? It was the Indian in the Cupboard.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He's that size. Yeah. I haven't seen that movie for a little while, but I'd say, yeah, about that size. Like, he's this. I mean, if you're this big, and the thing you like the most... Good podcast fodder.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I'd call that a couple of inches, maybe three inches. No, I'd say this is two inches. So he's two inches. If you're this big, and what you like the most in the world is coffee. Yes. And you've got your tiny little coffee mug. I mean, how much coffee?
Starting point is 00:48:51 I mean, one cup of coffee is a lifetime supply at that size. Yeah. He is living the dream. How good would that be? That's the good thing about being tiny. You can like give them so much of everything. The thing is yesterday, I was watching, I was catching catching up with some friends this is why anyone becomes a parent we will be yeah well no this is the thing i was catching up with some friends we were in the park
Starting point is 00:49:12 playing kub and they've got a puppy and kub and the and and and there was a uh some parents were walking past with their kids and the kids and the puppy started playing together it's like this is a like because to a child a puppy is a regular sized dog yeah and a dog is a giant yeah it's like a horse big hairy horse
Starting point is 00:49:32 and I was so yeah I was so satisfied by it I was like well this is obviously you guys are going to get along yeah yeah why you've got so much
Starting point is 00:49:38 to talk about that's great hey um we should probably bust out a little Shining light For the EP Oh we should man
Starting point is 00:49:48 For this watch I'll take it straight away Because Good on you bro I feel like this has been A pretty In terms of emotional Sort of health
Starting point is 00:49:57 Up and down episode Can I say It's been really good To see you Really good to see you too dude I don't even give a fuck About the movie I really And I really want to communicate that so clearly and i don't blame you maximum joseph but it's kind of your fault uh yeah good to see you dude what's yours Oh, come on. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Come on, mate. We've done this dance maybe 120 times before. Oh, at the end, in that scene that you were talking about at the start of the podcast where Zicole is demanding a free muffin and Somali's about to lose her job because she doesn't have the seniority at the cafe
Starting point is 00:50:44 to just give away free muffins to people she wants to lose her job because she doesn't have the seniority at the cafe to just give away free muffins to people she wants to bone. Yeah, pie, muffin. I don't care what you call a vagina, Tim. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:50:53 In the background, slightly out of focus on the chalkboard, you can see in the menu some variety of a summer salad and I couldn't make out the ingredients
Starting point is 00:51:01 but I was very excited that there's some healthy eating going on in North Hollywood. Yours, please. I was not expecting that at all. Look, of all of the wonderful, cherished moments in the watch this week that I loved, and... Listen to how many sentences it takes him to think of one thing.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Do you not know? That's too much. I was going to say, we could retire the shining light for the remaining episodes. No, because I wanted to see if we could actually fit in our new segment as well after this. But boy, have we hit a little bump in the road. You can do it, man. So my favourite bit of the movie this week was definitely... Do you know what it was, actually? It was at the music festival Meet Me by the Ferris Wheel
Starting point is 00:51:55 because it took me back to our chat about Sweet Kevin. And I'm not going to dwell on him because we simply don't have the time. The spawn of Somaly and Zicola. Yes. Most beautiful parents alive. Tragically lost to us in a Ferris wheel accident. Both of them, yeah. And even more tragically,
Starting point is 00:52:14 Kevin, of course, left to man the Ferris wheel for the rest of eternity. Yeah. It's truly one of the saddest family stories. Especially from such promising beginnings. Having such beautiful parents. Yeah. I just realised that there's a mirror here and I can see my shoe in the reflection.
Starting point is 00:52:31 This is like a dream for someone who's just put a new pair of shoes. As you would. Sorry. No, I'm done. We can talk about your shoe. But no, that was essentially it. And I feel like I'm kind of cheating a little bit because I don't like to infuse the DNA of the podcast
Starting point is 00:52:45 into what The Shining Light is you know what I'm saying yeah I hear you so in that case it's definitely this week going to be Johnny Depp giving a little tip of the hat to his pa
Starting point is 00:52:54 oh nice this is really good and it's good for the overall story arc of this episode of the podcast because you started with dads and we're sort of finishing almost finishing with dads
Starting point is 00:53:02 which is perfect for Mother's Day isn't it it's tidy yeah when is there going to be an international Father's Day alright
Starting point is 00:53:14 the Donald that's a good bit I'm funny it would only work if you had a gig on today which I think is like the one
Starting point is 00:53:24 day in the calendar year that you're not doing sydney i'm coming for you uh sydney comedy festival next week so are you actually yeah boy have i not sold any tickets i haven't even looked i've got seven people coming to opening night there's only three nights but it'd be so cool if there was double digit people you know what i've found in my experience with self-promotion tim is nothing really gets people fired up like telling them no one else will be there. Yeah, that's true. I'll take a punt on that sad sounding...
Starting point is 00:53:50 That's fucking true because in Wellington, I actually think there was not a single piece of physical media broadcasting the fact that I would be there. And I did well. I did way better than any other year. Here's the bit I wanted to talk about. Yep. What happened in that bathroom this week.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, you do not want to know what happened. Except I do. I don't, and I do. Do you know what happened in the bathroom this week? Yeah, man. This is pretty straight up and down. What we've got here is a man whose insides just had to get outside. In a t-shirt kind of a way?
Starting point is 00:54:32 No, no, no. Because then I guess it's your skin? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. What I'm trying to describe to you, Tim, is a situation that I found myself in once. I will not regale you with the anecdote in its entirety for it is disgusting and long. Suffice it to say at this party on this
Starting point is 00:54:49 night someone instead of using the toilet for its intended purpose of you know ones or twos. Someone did what I like to describe as they shat the room. I have once in my life shat the room. I have once in my life shat the room.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I won't tell you how it happened. I won't tell you what it looked like. What I will tell you is this. My only memory of shitting the room was me, pants around my knees, spinning in circles trying to maintain balance.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And I'll tell you how I found out. I shat the room. I woke up the next morning. I was wearing a T-shirt, a jersey, and a puffer jacket with the hood up. Nothing on the bottom half. I got a text from one of my friends at 8.30. They said, have you been downstairs yet?
Starting point is 00:55:36 I said, no. They said, you go downstairs and you look in the bathroom and you see what you've done. Four hours later, I was scraping shit off the wall with a butter knife. That is what happened in the bathroom. Seems like as good a time as any to wrap up the pot here.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So on that note, thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much to the people for coming. Give yourselves a round of applause for coming out. Yeah, thank you so much for listening thank you so much to the people for coming give yourselves a round of applause yeah thank you so much everybody um yeah this will go up in time for sydney so please come along if you're oh yeah okay and what you're gonna say and i was just gonna say that's what i was gonna say come to the come to the sydney podcast oh we've got a live fucking show there too of the podcast. A week today in Sydney.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Jesus. It's in the evening time. I don't remember the details, but we've said them before. Good enough.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Go to littleempirepodcast.com slash live and it's definitely there. Beautiful stuff. We'll see you there Sydney.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah. There's still another week in New Zealand Festival. Go check out a bunch of shows. Stick around for the male gays. They're happening in the same room in half an hour. Thank you very much. We'll see you there, Sydney. Otherwise, yeah, there's still another Week in New Zealand festival. Go check out a bunch of shows. Stick around for the male gays.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They're happening in the same room in half an hour. Thank you very much. We'll see you next time. Ow! This movie's still fine. There's a colleague, a pastor. One of them dies, that guy's screw. One of them's a hothead, his name is Jay.
Starting point is 00:56:59 One of them looks like Johnny Depp, and his name is Johnny Depp. Classic Maximum Joseph You forget that films are supposed to have a point Thanks for listening to this podcast If you're thirsty for another Why not try Boners of the Heart Basically on this podcast
Starting point is 00:57:19 We speak on all things about You know Celebrities People in the atmosphere and in the ether that uh we would like to have sex with and i mean not sex with you know what make love or be in love with or go on a date or kiss for a bit yeah i mean it's not just sex it's not just sex maybe sex but no kissing or maybe kissing but no sex maybe sex but no kissing. Or maybe kissing but no sex. Maybe only butt stuff. Pretty woman.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah. Oh, just butt stuff. Yeah, maybe only foot stuff.

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