The Worst Idea Of All Time - Friendzone Eighty Four

Episode Date: June 23, 2019

Please come to our live shows this month in NYC, Chicago, Portland and LATimGuy and GuyTim are together in Guy’s NYC apartment, just hours ahead of their live show in the big Apple. A selection of u...plifting letters are in the FZ mail bag today including a coming of Worst Idea age story, a generous equivalence drawn between a trans woman’s journey and that of the fellas’ AND a great theory about how Charlotte did NOT shit herself after all. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well it's the friend zone, with Tim and Guy, come to the friend zone, and have a good time, yes it's the friend zone, with Tim and Guy, cause making friends is the best idea of all time. And we're off to... The races! Together. What's happening at the races? It's actually the friend zone. We've got the friend zone coming in hot around the track He's in second place
Starting point is 00:00:27 First place is the crowd favourite Hemp Hat Hemp Hat taking the lead He's stumbling He's falling The horse has broken his legs It is a horrible scene Knowing what we know about professional horses with broken legs
Starting point is 00:00:42 Oh the humanity They get turned into dog tucker. Horrible note to start the episode. Should we go again? It's just the... No, it's the nature of things, isn't it? What? You break a leg, you become food for something.
Starting point is 00:00:55 No. It's just the circle of life, baby. Largely, if you break a leg, we'll try to nurse the leg back to health. It's the circle of life. You become food for something else. Tim Batt here. Kia ora.
Starting point is 00:01:12 How are you, Tim? Very good, thank you. Yeah. I'm in another loud shirt. I'm here in New York City with my boy Guy Montgomery. Where are we? We're in your apartment. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Mm-hmm. We're at the table? Yes. We're looking at each other? That we are. And when we're not looking at each other, we're looking at reams of mail from our friends? Yeah. Have we...
Starting point is 00:01:34 We haven't done an episode since I've been here, eh? We do... Not our friends, I know. But on arrival, I don't know if you remember. Oh, the right at a right. That's right. I did kind of block that out. You walked right into the recording studio.
Starting point is 00:01:46 That was two days ago, I think. Three days ago. Yeah, and what a time it's been. Have you had a nice time in New York City so far? Love New York City. I think this is the first time I've been here in the summer. And what do you make of that? It's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Especially coming from the southern hemisphere where it's quite cold at the moment. Yes. It's a welcome reprieve from those cold, damp days. And for those of you playing along, today is Sunday, the 23rd of June, which means if you're listening in New York and you think, oh, this is nice, I'd like to hear these guys again today. Yeah. You can.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yes. At Littlefield at 7.30 p.m. this evening. We'll be doing our New York City live show followed by a trip to Chicago tomorrow night, Portland later in the week, and Los Angeles next weekend. LittleEmpirePodcast.com forward slash live. And speaking of live,
Starting point is 00:02:37 we've got a live one right here, Tim. Hey, Frosty fellas, thanks for another great show. This is from the 14th of April. Okay. Two questions for you. Hold on, what show was that? I think we're in Melbourne, Australia.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, yep, yep, yep, yep. Due to being unorganized, I wasn't able to bring a special something that will enhance your next viewing. Am I able to drop it to you somewhere this week whilst you're still together in Melbourne? Two. I was sitting next to a guy who's just moved to melbourne and was going to say to him to come with us to guy's show next friday and make some new friends but lost track of him at the end as tim said you have everyone's email addresses so i was wondering if you could do a
Starting point is 00:03:16 call out and put us in touch always amazing to have you guys in melbourne amy amy thank you so much for all of this correspondence which is um i I'm not going to say not relevant anymore, but it's difficult to action. It's anachronistic. And we wear that entirely. That has nothing to do with you. That is wholly our responsibility. Thanks for coming to the show,
Starting point is 00:03:41 and thank you for wanting, one, to provide us with something and two, to make a friend and bring them to my show. Alas, maybe next time. I hope it happened somehow. Maybe you both independently did end up going. Yeah, who's to say? This is a message from Brian. Brian says, dear Legs Akimbo and Seamont Bleeding Gums, the expression you boys were looking for was,
Starting point is 00:04:09 Never judge an orgy without knowing its origin story. Love, Bri Bri. Now, I cannot recall what that's in reference to, but this message was sent on the 26th of March. Wow. Can you think back to the 26th of March, Guy? I can't, and I would say that more likely to provide some sort of mental prompt would be the turn of phrase.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Never judge an orgy without knowing its origin story. We're probably fumbling around some sort of cliche about books and covers. Could well be. Here's, you know, Romans were much more interested in group sex than literature. Really? Presum literature. Really? Presumably.
Starting point is 00:04:48 What do you think? If you were part of the Roman Empire, would you spend all of your time reading books? Or if there was quite a lot of exciting noises happening next door, would you go and say, Hey, what's all this? It sounds like the Romans had a healthy mix of both, doesn't it? Because they built a lot of cool things.
Starting point is 00:05:06 The Colosseum, etc. And you don't get to make cool stuff like that by just having sex all the time. You've got to write and read books. To build things? Yeah. No, you don't. Stuff like a Colosseum. You need to write or read a book to build the Colosseum.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You just wing it? Well, no. There needs to be someone who's doing that, writing and reading. But not everyone has to. A lot of people can just follow instructions. I guess so. I think you need quite a few people to make sure the thing's going to work, you know? Yeah, I mean, I couldn't even begin to think of how to build the Coliseum today.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I wouldn't know where to start with that kind of a project. Probably one brick at a time. I guess so. Is it built of brick? No, I don't think so. One slab of concrete. Drew writes, Good Lord, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I've just watched Sex and the City 2 with my wife, fully knowing that it is a shit movie. Oh, have I been warned not to watch. You have my greatest sympathy. Outside the wonderful revelation of seeing coffee guy in the flesh it must be the worst thing i've ever been subjected to the rage i felt deep in my soul at moments of this movie such as the lawrence of my labia line and just about all of carrie's narration must be but a pale imitation compared to what you boys felt on repeated watches
Starting point is 00:06:21 and i cannot even begin to comprehend why you'd voluntarily subject yourself to these Herculean endeavors, but I greatly appreciate the commitment. Good luck with season four, and may God protect your sanity as you continue. From Drew. Thank you, Drew.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I was actually talking with two friends yesterday about Sex and the City 2. They were saying that it's worse. And I was saying, yes, but it is also... Was I one of the two friends? No, you weren't. It is also far enough back in my... No, actually, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm not even going to say it. It is worse. And I'm saying that as someone who's still watching Sex and the City repeatedly. Sex and the City 2, if I had the option this afternoon of watching either, which I guess I do, as I always do. Every day I have that option. I would watch Sex and the City.
Starting point is 00:07:17 One episode this season I watched Sex and the City 2 as sort of an experiment. And the first scene, I was like was like oh it's nice to be somewhere else but then after that i was like but this isn't somewhere else this is eerily familiar uh so yeah thank you disgusting watch sex in the city too dear shauna paul and timbo or maybe just timbo i assume guy's been busy working the room with his banana in the elevator story but i do hope he gets to read this too. As Facebook has no doubt told you, my name is Amanda, and I had the pleasure of seeing your live show tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I have been a long-time listener since I was a wee tween, so it was a big moment for me to be able to see you both in person today. For the listener and for Tim, we are still in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. I got that. I understand. I was able to see you both in person today, years later, and even have a two-second chat with guys. I bought one of your actually very good stickers. They are actually very good.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That was how I was describing the stickers to Amanda. Correctly. And I remember during the show as I sat there sipping my beer, that in fact, oh, you boys a lot, for it was not too long ago that I was struggling and struggling hard with the shitstorm that is life as a teenager, when I happened upon your friendly faces against the backdrop of a beautiful blue sky. I don't know what precisely drew me towards the podcast, but I'm fucking glad it did.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You boys have been a constant source of comfort to me and an escape when life gets a bit much, as it often does. And I must say that no other potty except for perhaps some old-school bugle has been able to make me feel better like you do. This poorly composed word vomit probably pales in comparison to the hilarious letters you get daily, but I just wanted to share my appreciation for you two who have provided what can only be described as an audio hug to the soul
Starting point is 00:08:59 and an essential service to people like me all over. You boys are my favourite Kiwis, perhaps even more than your beloved leader, and despite the fact that I'm also technically a Kiwi. Thank you for being your good selves. Look after each other. Live every moment and love every day as best as you can when with the gals. Amanda XXPS. I brought my first timetime friend along tonight, and I'm pleased to say she was not actually scared off
Starting point is 00:09:27 despite all the knife and dog talk. Yay? Amanda. Yeah, you go. May I? Please. That was a really well-worded message. First off, I like the humility, the antipodean self-loathing.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. That all communications we get from New Zealand and Australia are kind of wrapped in. But it is beautiful. Beautiful sentiment, very well worded. And I really appreciate it. And boy, does it bowl me over that we've been doing this podcast long enough that people have entered and exit various life stages while on the journey. Well, this is our fifth year. So I always, five-year blocks me represent uh an entire high school career so uh we now yeah
Starting point is 00:10:13 i mean or if you even look at it from zero to five think of the developmental progress that a person makes do you reckon there were some zero year olds that have been following us along and now they've no although do you know, and we take great joy and pride in this, but there are children of the worst. You know, there are... Yeah, I love that. Children who have been born, possibly... Children of the pod.
Starting point is 00:10:37 There's some people who may be, not consummated in marriage, but I feel like there have been... Some fucking? Yeah, I feel some people have had sex to this podcast absolutely we've we've received more than one message i think less than four but more than one message um by people who are letting us have you ever had sex to the podcast no have you ever had sex to a podcast no don't think so i once had sex while a david cross comedy album was
Starting point is 00:11:01 playing in the background how was that distracting we both laughed at a joke which suggested that we were not that involved in the sex right i'd flick it off personally the the the relationship i was in at the time it was uh not dissimilar to that seinfeld episode when he dates someone who is very similar to himself and initially you think this is incredible and then eventually you're no, I don't need more of this. Amanda, thank you for reaching out. It was a beautiful message. I hope life is good.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And being a teenager is hard. Let me say that for all the teenagers listening. It's the fucking hardest time of your life. Anyone who tells you it's your golden years is full of shit. Punch them in the mouth. Chris writes, Hello, you fine, crazy gentlemen. Fucking hardest time of your life. Anyone who tells you it's your golden years is full of shit. Punch them in the mouth. Chris writes, Hello, you fine, crazy gentleman.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Having just finished listening to both your director's commentaries for Sex and the City, the movie, the movie. Oh, no. Well, anyone who's just done that isn't in a good way. Yeah, that's true. I remembered something I discovered recently that might help in your search for the elusive coffee guy. We know that Tom Stratford, critically lauded for his role as Coffee Guy in the sequel, is listed on IMDb as Elaine's friend uncredited. Apparently in Sex and the City Season 6 Episode 6 Hop Skip in a Jump, sorry, Hop Skip in a Week,
Starting point is 00:12:17 Catherine Wolfe appears as Elaine, who as far as I can tell is an elderly member of the synagogue where Charlotte and Harry go. Is it possible that Catherine also appears in the movie, possibly at the baby shower or one of the weddings? My theory is that if you find her, you'll find coffee guy. Of course, there's no way that I'll watch the movie to check for myself, so it's up for you to decide if you want to go down this rabbit hole any further. Regardless of your decision, I will keep listening to the end and give you my moral, if not financial, support. Say my name, for it is Chris.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Say my name, even if it isn't. Do you know, we're not really given enough... There's a few people at the baby shower. Chris could be onto something. I know, but this is one of the... While Sex and the City 2 is objectively worse, we are given more time with periphery characters. The couple at the wedding who are shocked
Starting point is 00:13:16 that Big and Carrie aren't going to have children. The two characters, one of them played by Norm Lewis, who are talking to Samantha about how great she looks and they need to know where she gets her work done. People were given a glimpse into these other people's lives and that's where Mythos is born and you can dive into that and enjoy yourself. But at the wedding, we don't even get into the fucking reception
Starting point is 00:13:35 because Big is too busy jilting Carrie day in, day out. At the baby shower, we don't get any exposition on any of the characters. We don't even get to see the person who put a glass down without a coaster on carrie's new table we just hear about it we just fucking everyone is just in soft focus on the fringes of frame and so that's why you know i love the line of research i love the fact that you've done the work and you've you've given us this information but it's hard it's hard to find elaine because no one's names except for the main characters are getting thrown around the movie so it you know it could be anyone je suis elaine i think based on the clues that chris has left for us through his investigations
Starting point is 00:14:19 um the most sensible course of action if we do want to pursue this is to imdb or google search this actress look at her photo see if she pops up and then where's wally well we are watching the movie later today so it's it's not undoable uh this next one comes from a writer named damon who is asking us to appear on a breakfast radio show in Adelaide, South Australia. Oh, fuck. In mid-April this year. So, Damon,
Starting point is 00:14:52 thank you for your correspondence, but I'm not sure we're going to pull it off. This, however, seems like something else. I'm putting my microphone down. This looks girthy. Hey, Tim and Guy. Thanks again for an awesome night of comedy last Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I loved the live recording and Guy's amazing show and topped it off with the hilarious snort with friends. Holy heck. That is a full compliment of Antipodean comedy during the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It was great to meet you both and say hi and to thank you for all the hours of entertainment you've provided i was introduced to the podcast about six months ago and i've been
Starting point is 00:15:28 soaking up as much of your content i can find ever since probably my fave bit was when guy's dad rang up on friendzone 31 and noted that he thought there was too much swearing on the podcast then proceeded to say charlotte is saying shut the fuck up steven to which tim somehow managed to say completely straight faced the irony is palpable. Absolute unscripted comedy gold. I'm loving the fourth season, but I'm sorry that it seems to be causing so much damage to you both.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Hopefully you can find future projects to work on together which don't involve quite as much torture and mental anguish. Anyway, keep up the great work. Cheers. P.S. In the recent ep,
Starting point is 00:16:02 Guy mentioned how much he likes Melbourne. Is there any chance that you'll change your mind about living in New York and do us the honor of moving to our fair city? I've never been to New York, but I hear there are a lot less Americans here. P.P.S. If by any chance you accidentally stumbled across this message and inadvertently read it in a friend zone, I would love for you to say my name, James Anderson. mr anderson uh so thank you so much james that was a wonderful message thank you for supporting the podcast and also the my stand-up career and also uh improvised comedy which is a bit of a dirty word in some comedy circles, but when done correctly, is one of life's great joys.
Starting point is 00:16:46 In some ways, I feel bad about how much flack improvisers and improvisers... Improvisation? Improvising gets. But in other ways, it's very easy to make fun of. In other ways, it is totally deserved. But no, that's wonderful, James. Would you consider moving to Melbourne, Guy? I often think that I could live in Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Melbourne, truly one of planet earth's greatest cities have you considered living in melbourne very like in depth my wife and i talked about it very seriously what was the conclusion um we're not going to i think it's just a little bit tricky because she's a doctor to like move can you not cross credit um i don't know i can't remember exactly which systems uh at a minimum you've got to do you got to do like a kind of six-monthy catch-up thing and i can't remember if that was britain or australia but um you know auckland's really cool and i feel like we've got our roots down but the question was to you vis-a-vis melbourne But I lived in Sydney for six months,
Starting point is 00:17:47 and if I could turn back the clock, I would trade that over to Melbourne. Sydney's great. I love it. But Sydney, you need quite a lot of money to have a good time. Melbourne, you can be poor and have fun. Sydney and Melbourne, I would happily consider, and expect at some point I will live in, if not both,
Starting point is 00:18:02 at least one of those places. And expect at some point I will live in, if not both, at least one of those places. For everything that is wrong with Australia, which is largely the political climate. It's just the representatives. Those are both fantastic cities. Have you got another email there, Tim? I certainly do. Tim's just disrobing his feet, everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:24 That's a weird way to say it. I've taken off my shoes and socks. He's getting some sweet, sweet wooden floor between those toes. Scott writes. He's digging up the floor with his toes. Hello, Guybo and Tim Tim. I've been a long time fan of the podcast and thought that in the dark days of sex in the city, you could use a pick-me-up for how the potty is changing lives. I'm a public school high school teacher in chicago
Starting point is 00:18:46 oh my gosh and have used the worst idea of all time to help inspire students having students find a shining light in their reading works surprisingly well for getting them to actually read their assignments but more importantly it has helped students get over the I don't like this book stage by saying that there is still a ton to say about what they don't like. Sorry, let me run that again by saying that there is still a ton to say about why they don't like it and that those criticisms are still valid in the classroom. I have genuinely seen students go from writing barely passable as f papers to solid b's and a's once they are encouraged to really tear into for example the class dynamics of horrible white people in the great gatsby anyway i hope it helps that your pain is helping to foster critical
Starting point is 00:19:39 thinking skills in the next generation you are good boys brave boys and educational boys love you guys say my names and my students will know which episode to reference to get extra credit from mr nickels ps oh this part is not for friendzone consumption you talk i'll do a quick read of this and see if any needs to go in i feel like if they've said it's not for friend zone consumption, presumably it's not. It's getting us a movie. We can pour over that another time. It's fine. I love to hear people taking the mess we make
Starting point is 00:20:19 and applying it in practical ways. The fact that you've sifted through four seasons, five years of slow mental unravelling and extracted value, not just for yourself, but in a way that can apply to the future generation of leaders is beyond my very primitive comprehension.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's heartwarming. There's a good lesson in there from Mr. Nichols, guy. This message from a friend of the podcast, Kira, says... It's called intercultural tools, where you can look at something, you've just got to make it applicable for you, you know? You've got to find your in with your particular audience. That's what reading books does.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Well, there's Mr. Nichols' point. Not always. You've got to kind of frame it in an interesting way for the shoot. You can't just keep going, give me an example of a metaphor. You go, well, what are you guys interested in? Of course. How racism works in modern society? Then tell me about that.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Of course. Now you've got an A instead of an F. Well, I was just going to read this message from a friend of the podcast, Kara, that says, please stop watching Sex and the City, the movie, for your own safety. So thank you, Kira, for that. Lovely donation from Riley. Oh, here's the message.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Great, great, great. I think this is the same person. Dear Timbly Wimbly and Guybo Jenkins, I've been listening to your show since its second season and you good boys have gotten me through some tough times. I was equal parts excited and concerned when I learned that you were doing a fourth season.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I'm a trans woman and I'm currently in the process of transitioning and coming out to my family. Listening to you suffer through equally self-inflicted misery has really helped me keep things in perspective. I might be going through hell, but at least I'm not watching Sex and the City twice a week. Here is 10 US dollars to pay the boys. Good luck. Godspeed. Please say my name. Fantastic. Well... This was sent the 11th of April. So, Riley, I hope that everything has gone fantastic since then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 By way of comparative bravery and decision making i don't i mean i don't i don't know that what we're doing is really remotely worthy now let's not be too hasty to poopoo the parallels between riley's journey and our own that's true i suppose there's some part of us that thinks that we need to do this i guess uh i guess so otherwise why are we doing it it's a good question do you get are you afraid of that question why are we doing this no it's summer outside yeah that's not nothing um but riley i wish you the best of. And I want to say congratulations for making that huge decision to really go the next step forward with who you know you are. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And get into it. And I can't imagine that's an easy thing to do, particularly with your family. I don't know your situation, but from the little bits and pieces I hear about Arkansas, probably not the easiest thing in the world to do. Little Rock, Arkansas has exclusively been in the news for good reasons in my memory clinton country um now i can't have this been emailed as well but i remember this some it's someone talking about the website
Starting point is 00:23:37 am i cancelled.com i remember this boys i've just stumbled upon, without using the website stumbleupon.com, a resource that I thought may finally vindicate our friend Guy Montgomery, who was, in my opinion, tragically and unfairly cancelled but three months ago. The website is called amicancelled.com. It utilises a sophisticated six-point algorithm, along with machine learning, to determine whether or not a person, place or thing is, in actual fact, cancelled. do you know what this sounds like to me you know in willy wonka in the chocolate factory how there's that guy who's got the computer system ripped up i'm talking the original not the johnny depp one with all the like real to real computers and machines to determine where the
Starting point is 00:24:17 golden ticket's gonna come out that's what i'm saying for the are you cancelled algorithm with the utmost confidence in my good possibly best we'll wait for guy's take on that friend guy montgomery's longevity and renewment for at least 70 more seasons i plonked his name into the search bar to determine once and for all whether he truly had been cancelled it is with great sadness that i'm forced to report that tim's assertion which at the time of him making it was based on little more than pure speculation that guy was forever cancelled has been upheld by the foremost authority on such matters i even typed louis ck's name into the search bar afterwards to ensure the machine's accuracy here is pictorial evidence of both
Starting point is 00:24:52 results am i cancelled sorry guy montgomery is cancelled sorry louis ck is cancelled this has all been very difficult for me to process and i'm sure will upset all of your listeners similarly. However every cloud has a silver lining and as a final measure in order to determine whether your podcast could continue after this devastating blow, I through my gushing tears slowly typed the name Timbett into the search bar. I'm thrilled to announce that Tim
Starting point is 00:25:17 you shall continue. As for the podcast you are not cancelled, you just need to find another co-host. Luckily Timbett is not cancelled. Thanks need to find another co-host luckily Tim Better's not cancelled thanks so much for the effort and dedication you specifically Tim
Starting point is 00:25:29 put in action every week it's a true joy to see your sanity and psyche stripped back further and further every week I have full faith
Starting point is 00:25:36 that you will come to the end of your run naturally, gracefully and on your terms to Guy Montgomery I say this you're a dirt bag a filthy great pile
Starting point is 00:25:43 of pig muck I don't want to see your hair from you ever again and forgiveness is not an option enjoy the remainder of what is sure
Starting point is 00:25:48 to be a lonely and desolate future for you well actually you'll have one companion one ironically that you so detest
Starting point is 00:25:54 because I'm sorry to tell you but the knife is also cancelled oh no yeah the knife is cancelled sorry Tim
Starting point is 00:26:01 oh fuck what are you gonna do thank you so much to Asher for that discovery and very enjoyable journey into I guess my own cancellation.
Starting point is 00:26:11 How do you feel about that, Guy? Bit of a blow. Yeah. I did not agree with you and Jen Fricker at the time. However, this appears to have been... Was it Becky or was it Jen? It was Jen. I remember every time that you find someone to bully me with, the glee that flickers through your eyes.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It's bad, eh? I actually think, and I didn't think this before, but I suspect I might be a villain after all this time. I don't think it's villainy. I almost enjoy it for your enjoyment of it. Like, you really get a kick out of it. That is the most selfless act you could hope for. I enjoy your enjoyment of it. Like, you really get a kick out of it. That is the most selfless act you could hope for. I enjoy your enjoyment of bullying me.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Well, yeah. What a selfless emotion. Get someone in your life who will be as happy as Guy Montgomery is to put himself forward as a sacrificial lamb to slaughter. It sounds unhealthy. To aid my benefit, his friend. Parts of the podcast are unhealthy. You're a scapegoat.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You know the origins of scapegoat? Back in the day, when religions were all about getting rid of your sin through various methods, like sacrificing food and animals to the gods, periodically, a village would get a goat and be like, we're putting all of our sin onto this goat and then just send it off.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's pretty good. That's interesting. Carrie writes, dear Tim guy. Carrie, you're my wayward son. Thanks, first of all, for everything you put yourselves through in the name of, um, entertainment? Research? I sure couldn't do it. Until recently, I harbored an ambition to remake one of these movies based only on info gleaned from the worst idea of all time.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Sadly, I ruined it by watching Sex and the City, the movie, once. Yeah, you've spoiled yourself, Carrie. So now I can blame the absence of said remake not on my own work shyness, but also on the fact I've already seen it. Work shyness is definitely a word I'm adding to my lexicon to replace lazy. I'm not lazy, I'm work shy.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. Actually, I watched the film in two parts. I did it this way because my wife came home and I didn't want her to know I was watching Carrie and the Gals. So, we have a scramble for the remote and a wife opening the door to see her fella sitting suspiciously alone in a suspiciously darkened room facing a suspiciously blank TV screen. I paused at a point in the movie, maybe you know it, when the girls are sitting around the pool. The cleaner is doing her thing in the bathroom. Charlotte is cycling through a series of facial contortions.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That scene was left to Fester for a couple of weeks before I got round to watching the rest of the movie, and in that time, I came to a theory. Carrie is an unreliable narrator, and Charlotte did not shit herself. Here's what we know about their time in Mexico. 1. Charlotte is uptight about the cleanliness of the country. 2. The girls find it ridiculous that she won't eat the local food or even have local ice in her drink. 3. Carrie is going through a hard time. Four, you can't shit yourself just because you swallowed a gob full of shower water 20 minutes prior. In an earlier scene, the girls are sitting around in a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Charlotte pulls out a pudding, and one of the girls says, Charlotte's got pudding in her Prada. Charlotte pulls a face, saying, Yeah, I know, I'm ridiculous. A stony-faced Carrie wonders aloud, will I ever laugh again? Miranda says something like, you'll laugh when something's really, really funny. End scene. I believe that this is where Charlotte gets her idea. She feels terrible for Carrie because she believes in love and fairy tale endings. Later, we see Charlotte
Starting point is 00:30:02 having a shower. Carrie, as as a narrator is describing what she thinks is going through charlotte's mind in the shower her perfect family life husband whatever we see charlotte absent-mindedly take a hit of shower water and then catch herself doing it charlotte then speed waddles back to the pool where the girls are lounging she tries the door locked she panics the girls are asking what's up she pulls all those weird pantomime self-defecation faces and the girls all laugh including carrie who hoots her little heart out but i don't believe charlotte actually plow keep plow plow kipski po kips po kipski is that how you spell it is p-o-u-G-H-K-E-E-P.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. Weird. It's a place name. Yeah. In New York State, right? Yeah. At that point, it seems to me that when she swallowed the water, she had a sudden brainwave and in that moment knew how to make Carrie laugh again.
Starting point is 00:31:02 What we have is shit-free pants, a guffawing Carrie Bradshaw, and a thoughtful and sensitive friend who decides to take one for the team. It's especially thoughtful given that Carrie is a writer Is that how you'd say? Carrie. I'd probably say that is Carrie. Not that it's important i love the theory because it vindicates charlotte a character who i have been not quite at war with but certainly at odds with uh throughout the season i think um it would also explain why elements of her shitting herself read is somewhat unconvincing, but the desire for the other characters to believe that she has
Starting point is 00:31:50 and the service that she's doing Carrie in that. I mean, we could be stumbling into a conspiracy theory here where Miranda and Samantha are also in on the secret. And this is an elaborate ploy orchestrated by the three of them to lift up carrie spritz because she's being such a fucking drag also because of her deteriorating mental state uh it would make sense that the three of them would coordinate some sort of morale boost is uh it holds a bit of water for me yeah i like this a lot and then charlotte's ownership of the fact she shits herself does really make her read as a very selfless
Starting point is 00:32:26 and a force for total good. Something to look out for later today, perhaps, Tim? I'm into it. I really love that. Thank you, Carrie, for sending it through, and I'm sorry that your wife might think less of you, or potentially that she stumbled in on you watching porn, even when you didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Message here from Dave. It says, fellas, even when you didn't. Message here from Dave. It says, fellas, fellas, hear me out. Grown Ups 4. Let me know if you're interested. And then this photo of him doing a thumbs up in a t-shirt that says, I love Brisbane. Well, with a heavy heart, I must report report grown-ups three doesn't exist but that's what what where's the relevance in that maybe it's straight to grown-ups for there would be a classic sandler move it's like going to the studio everyone what do we think
Starting point is 00:33:18 grown-ups three we're going to take a pass very well grown-ups for it is. Play on. I would love that. I like the idea of non-linear storytelling. But people usually restrict that to existing within a film. Yeah. Never have we seen a franchise so brazenly flout this very basic convention. Yes. I'm with you. That's good.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Grown Ups. Grown Ups 2. Grown Ups 4. Grown Ups 3. Grown Ups 7. convention yes i'm with you that's good grown-ups grown-ups two grown-ups four grown-ups three grown-ups seven eight oh wow you went real high then six then five then and seven's the end yeah it's a bit of fun to be had there um so dave it seems like the response to that message is a hearty yes, queen. Yes, queen. Yes, we stan a king. I got one more and then should we put a pin in it for now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Do you know what I'm jealous of? And I almost hate to say it because of how long we've been doing the Friends on Without this, but you ever listen to Comedy Bang Bang and they play the theme song when they're doing the plug bag? Yeah. Man, whoever did that really extended song of closing up the... Plug bag. The plug bag.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I love that little tune so much. That's nice. I'm sorry we don't have that. Closing up. Oh, it's so good. G'day, Tumbet and my guy. I'm just smashing out Grown Ups 2 again since I listened to Pod. I listened in the order of last two Eps of Season 3 first,
Starting point is 00:34:51 then Season 2, then 3, then 1, now 4. Anyway, I'm now reminded that for some reason I've always held on to the theory that Braden Higgins is Brady the Rat King growing up. Why do I love this so much? All hail the Warlock rat king. Can't remember if I got this theory from my own head or from Friendzone or if you guys said it, but in case it did come from me,
Starting point is 00:35:09 I thought I'd share it with you as I believe it to be true. All the best, boys. Keep up the... Work? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Bah, bah, bah. Well, it's the Friendzone. With Tim and Guy.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Come to the Friendzone. And have a good time. Yes, it's the friend zone. With Tim and Guy, come to the friend zone. And have a good time, yes, it's the friend zone. With Tim and Guy, cause making friends is the best idea of all time.

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