The Worst Idea Of All Time - Full Penetration

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Guy and Tim are doing separate watches of this 8th and mercifully shortest episode of the And Just Like That’s third season. The many pots and pans of Mattress Pikelet are back on the boil as we ever-so-briefly return to Harry’s cancer treatment, before spending time on the real issues. First - applying deodorant at a restaurant - thoughts?! Miranda’s maybe not an alcoholic - your take? Performing cunnilingus on a papaya - cinema on the small screen?Support us and watch Tim rage at Miranda eating a cookie VISUALLY at twioat.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Music G'day, Kia Ora and cheers! Cheers to you too. Here's to the gals. Here's to all of us. All of us in this elite community of people who don't just take part in and just like that but also analyse and enjoy analysis of and just like that. I'm Guy Montgomery joined as ever by Tim Batt. And we're looking good. We're feeling good. We're looking tasty and we're feeling delicious. And we will be conversing specifically with reflections upon and just like that

season three, episode eight. I do not remember the title. I'm going to Google it. It feels important to me. A very breezy 30 minute episode. I couldn't believe it. Was it? Yeah.

They're so liberal. They can just do whatever they want. This is something I admire about the streaming era. Is the variable lengths of episodes. Yeah. I think. And especially as someone who sort of likes to scan ahead to check for time. I look at, I look upon a, you know, in this instance, it's weekly.

So I only find out as I go to open up a fresh episode. But I always enjoy scanning ahead and seeing like a shorter one. And I think, oh, even if it's a show I love, I think, oh, absolutely smashed through that. I get quite excited. If it's a show I enjoy, I get quite excited by the longer ones. Well, it's like they've got a story to tell on this one. That's right. We'll get some shit going on. This episode is called The Spins. The Spins.

That's right. Because guess what, everyone? Charlotte's Vertigo is back. And yes, it's a real thing Yeah, people keep asking it is real played for a comedic beat now Tim. This is the second consecutive episode. We've watched a part I miss your companionship. I miss watching you watch the girls Hey same man. There's nothing quite like hanging out with Guy Montgomery and just cracking into a new episode of and just like that, you know, at the same time, and don't take this as my replacing you.

I will say I was lucky enough to be joined by my beloved Chelsea, hell of a guest, who got to watch me. I think she likes to watch me watch the episode. That's very sweet. And then every now and then she'll turn to me and she'll say, and you like this? Do you feel any pressure by being watched watching it? No. Does it change your viewing experience?

No. Are you sort of dealing in a secondary market of watching at this point? Are you in the derivatives business of streaming now? No. Do you know what though? And it's actually, it's a mark of respect from Charles to us. And the project is whenever she does have something to say, she'll start saying it and then she'll just look at me until I pause the television

because she understands we do not want to see, we don't want women to talk over other women. I don't mind men talking over men and hell, I tell you what, that's all I'll say about that. But she would pause it. I would pause it and then we could run analysis. So I did have companionship, but I miss you and I'm curious as to

not just where you are with this episode, but where you are with the season. I'm brave and strong. I watched the episode by myself because I'm a brave, strong man. And I watched it all in the kitchen this morning while eating my breakfast. Another one of the advantages of a 30 minute episode. Yeah it's fantastic. Okay. Thanks for asking. And so you want to know the secret? Well the red onion. Oh wow. A little bit of paprika. Yeah because the the mint

then would balance the red onion breath. There's no mint in there. What are you talking about? Mint. Bit of fun. So how do you feel about the episode and then more broadly I suppose you know we're at the two third point. Episode fine. At this point I'm feeling pretty numb to it. Yeah this is just something you do. A lot of talk about Duncan without Duncan featuring in the episode and this is just a thought that's occurring to me in real time. I kept expecting Duncan to come up and everything to explode in fireworks. But as per usual with this show, they sort of set up a whole bunch of stuff and then, you know, leave me blue balled for Duncan. Honestly, and this I don't know. This is no shade to Aidan, but I was so fucked off when he showed up. Not like as a as a person who's not a fan of Aiden, but just as someone who's

like angry at the story borders for, or, you know, whoever outlined the story at the start of the season was like, and we'll pepper and Aiden this much. Yes. They got it wrong. I mean, they got the flavors completely wrong. The metaphors, the metaphor, sorry, that you, uh, floated in the last episode really resonated with people online. People agree with you that Carrie and Aidan's relationship is a mirror for our relationship with the show as viewers. And in both cases we need to end it. Things need to stop. They're unhealthy. They're toxic.

I just thought, you know, he comes over. What do you think he does straight away? He fucking complains about Wyatt. It just thought, you know, he comes over. What do you think he does straight away? He fucking complains about Wyatt. It's like, dude. Well, that's not fair. That's not the first thing he does. First thing he, he comes in with a surprising amount of bags. Yeah. For as Kerry points out, a dude who's got sort of

two wardrobe options at all times. He does a funny bit with the wardrobe. We have some fun with the wardrobe. That's true. Wines carry up a little bit, which is very cute. He looks at because obviously carries wardrobe, a huge character in the show basically, completely full of his stuff. And he looks at and he goes, so what are we thinking? We'll just push your stuff over here. And he moves a rack of clothes

and just shunts them into the corner. And I gotta say, I did enjoy the razz. What was crazy about that bit though, is that he does a finger point to her and he does it like to camera as if they'd shot it in 3D but we're only seeing the 2D version. I got the 3D version. His finger came out into the lounge and was pointing at me. It was such a strange shot. I was like, why is this directed at me? I don't give a sh- it's not my fucking wardrobe. I don't care.

But I felt like Aidan's finger was pointing right at me. Look, we've got a lot of ground to cover and pick line to keep, not a huge amount of time to cover it off. Keep telling me about what Aiden did. What he did first. Were they fuck? Heaps? And they were very excited about that and good on them.

Genuinely, like not no chemistry between those two actors. It's nice. It's nice. Chelsea observed that they have similar faces. She said they have the same face. I see what she means. I think their eyes have a very similar kind of unique quality shape to them. Yeah. I mean, he's like a foot taller than here, but he is a boy.

Yeah. The height's not really in the face though, is it? Is it? He carries a lot of his height in his body design. Yeah, he does. Well, you say that it does have a much longer face than Sarah Jessica Parker. The height's not really in the face though, is it? He carries a lot of his height in his body, does Aidan. Well, you say that, he does have a much longer face than Sarah Jessica Parker. Sarah Jessica Parker, to her body, also has a long face. This is one of the similarities.

What? You can say that. You can say that without talking about animals. They both, and I'm not even centralizing on who they both have long faces, part of the similarity. They fuck heaps good on them. That's what we say. And then he proceeds to moan. Well then he gets weird that Carrie's got a writing session booked in on the calendar ahead of time with Duncan downstairs who's a professional writer. They're both working on something so they're swapping notes and whatnot. I'm so with you on what you said last episode though. I've lost all faith that Duncan knows what the fuck's going on.

He's like raving about Carrie's book she's writing. We're getting privy to a decent portion of it. Oh my God. It's dog shit. His opinion's terrible. The hardest I laughed. Margaret Thatcher bug. The whole episode was Carrie went back to a voiceover

of her romance novel at the end of it. And she goes, the woman was happier with a song. And then Chelsea was just like, the woman is like this fucking groundbreaking novel that's been Duncan's brain. It's like we're how many chapters in and the central character is still called the woman. Holy shit. I laughed for like two minutes on the back of that. I was so pumped up.

It's absolutely terrible. But um, so then, uh, Carrie ends up blowing off the aforementioned writing session with Duncan because, um, Aidan's being a mopey bitch. I mean, like fair play to him. He's got some shit going on in his life. Don't spawn into your girlfriend's house so you don't see for ages. You're not married a girlfriend and come literally with all that baggage. Well, he held off. I just think even the way, even the way that they're communicating the sort of imbalance or the lack of like the, you know, the fractures of the relationship is frustrating to me because clearly Aidan's Spidey Sense, he's met Duncan.

He's a smoke show. They're working together, they're living on top of each other, his Spidey Sends is tingling. And the whole episode is just edging towards him talking about it and it's an interest, it's gonna be an interesting conflict because he slept with Cathy and so it's like he's actually got no ground to sit on where he's like my Spidey Sends is tingling, there's chemistry here, I want to know about it and so it's like he's actually got no ground to sit on where he's like my spider senses tingling There's chemistry here. Yeah, I want to know about it and then I'm like, well, what are you gonna do about it, bruh? You're fucking right in the pocket.

Because you fucking seeded all this, you know, like you seeded any high ground that you might have imagined you have. Alright. And so they keep like it's like oh by the way, we're gonna do this and then they don't and it's driving me It's like I'm gonna fight against my instinct to pull you out of this and I'm going to get in this canoe with you. What do you like? Let's explore it next episode. Carrie and okay. Aiden has to go back because Wyatt has gotten drunk again and smashed another

car. It's just a total repeat of what happened last time. Carrie then falls into the arms of Duncan. They have a few fucking whiskies and bing bang boom. They sleep together. His his where does Carrie stand morally? I'm Carrie can do you know Carrie can do as she pleases Aiden being there is just an interference to Carrie and Duncan inevitably sleeping together.

What annoys me is that they're taking a full season opening a season with conceivably us being told like we're rooting for this relationship and then they're gonna spend a whole fucking and the best way, cause it's, they keep it all off. And then I tried to do screen grabs from the streamer. It doesn't let you do it. It's hard. It's hard to do. So I had to go through and get like official HBO season recaps of shit. Oh my God. So I got, so I was seeing like montages that HBO

has produced of Carrie and Aidan's relationship. And it is decades long, storied, you know is this is this has been yeah there's a long time coming you know so suddenly I'm carrying that weight with me even though I haven't watched the series I'm like not important it's like the show is a prologue it's not it's not in the book we're reading. He was just a simple country man, you know, of simple values. Carrie broke his heart. I think she cheated on him with Big, is what I can ascertain from the montage. She also cheated on Big with him.

Yeah, terrible. I just think it's, so number one, it's annoying. He felt, here's the thing. He felt really bad about sleeping with Cathy. He did. And the ambiguity was sort of introduced by Carrie and that she was like, we have an explicitly out loud, promised exclusivity, I guess, to each other. Yeah.

Like exclusive monogamy. Wasn't that interesting? Didn't that feel like a breakthrough for them and the show? Everyone involved. It was great. Exactly. It was a breath of fresh air. But he obviously very destabilized

by her reaction to that, which is cool and interesting. Yeah. And of course we ignore that it even happened. Like we're going to put that in the cut. We had, we tripped over an interesting storyline. We got to fucking get rid of it. Exactly. Get rid of it. But now we, we are dealing in an interesting hypothetical where if the fucking thousand monkeys that mattress pike caught on those thousand typewriters and the next episode produces a script where Aiden had sorry Carrie has had sex with Duncan. I'm like I'm going to be mad at Carrie. I'm going to be mad at the show if Carrie's already had sex with Duncan and they left

it off camera I'm going to be like do you have no respect for us? I just think it's fucking just to say it I just want to say that I want to see the culmination of what you want to say PNV what do you think I want to see I want to see a dick going into a vagina You want to see full penetration that way I know they've had sex. I mean listen The show was called sex in the city. We're now dealing with it. This was a sex heavy episode. The entire generation of viewers that we're dealing with now are above the age of 35. No one under the age of 35 is watching this show. Let's get in there. Let's do some shit.

Oh you reckon? Yeah. Full penetration. 4K. Holy shit. Yeah man. If you're're gonna make them have sex. Let us know about it. Yeah. And just like that, the show became hardcore pornography. Wait, no, it's art. It's softcore. What's in between? It's tasteful. It's HBO. Yeah, the real books out there.

It's not TV. So it's just like that. Other things that are happening. Before you get to that, I just have to close this loop. So this is and this is one of my complaints about this central relationship. So it annoys me that we're purportedly rooting for them while they're taking a full season to break up. And that, to me, is the only logical endpoint of this, because you cannot have them going through this first season

and have them patch up and then expect all of us to stick around for you to come back and watch the same tension take place for a season. Like Carrie being in some sort of romantic relationship turmoil is the essence of what is being communicated. It keeps coming back to what you said in the last episode. It is as disrespectful to us as viewers as they are being to each other in the relationship. And so this annoys me that this has been seeded and is going to bubble up.

While I was championing the 30 minute episode, it's like, they've just put off doing what they were going to do. Tell the story faster. Fuckin have the conflict now put 15 minutes from episode nine into episode eight and show Aiden confronting And she's like well guess what you slept with Cathy so what the fuck are you talking about like give us what we want Yeah, because what you're giving us in lieu of it is not good enough to make me forget that this is what I'm waiting for And when you say what they're giving us is that like post-coital carry and no no no no no no no What they're giving us is the other random shit that Mattress Pikelet started cooking at the start of the season and let's get into it That's what you want to talk about exactly. Other random shit. The key cut and thrust of this episode genuinely is all centered around Lisa Todd Wexley and Marion. Great.

I'm happy to be back in the moment with her. I was so happy. Exactly. Because we got so little Lisa Todd Wexley. Yes. And I was so grateful. Well we had this great storyline we were cooking with and then they killed her dad a second time for no reason.

It didn't fucking add anything. Yeah, and honestly, I know that they can't be making the episodes between the episodes being released, but it felt like such a hard over-create for the writers. We were like, oh, people didn't like that. OK, guess what? They're so horny for each other.

We're going to watch a fucking editor perform Cunnilingus on a papaya. Dude, OK, Holy moly. So, um, I'm gonna... I've messaged you. We watched the episode separately, and I said there is one specific thing in this episode that made me apoplectic. Because I have, I think, a little dollop of, I think it's myasphobia?

Myasphonia, I think it's myasphobia, myasphonia, I think is what it is, which is a hypersensitivity to certain noises like mouth noises and stuff. There's two in the episode. I actually didn't mind Marion. Marion's one isn't noise heavy, but we, what is the, they do like a match cut as well. What is the, I can't remember what the immediate scene

preceding it is. Was it Seema and Adam the Gardener? I think it is. Yeah, I think it is. It was something overtly sexual. They're fucking hard and we'll get into that in a minute. But the scene we go to, the shot we go to immediately after that is we are in. Do you guys remember when Sony used to have showrooms? In New Zealand they used to be everywhere and then they got rid of them

Desensibly they must have cost a bomb but it was just wall to wall of almost beautiful 4k OLED screens you'd ever seen and then they were always showing you fireworks exploding and a high-definition Perfectly lit fruit with just the right amount of shine. That is the framing and style of what we got of Marion eating a papaya with his human mouth. It's a cut to from like not an explicit sex scene, but a sex moment, like a scene about sex, to like an extreme close up of the middle of a papaya.

We're basically inside his mouth. We're behind, you know, his molars. And he's eating this with his colleague, Lisa Thomas, who's a papaya, and oh my God, this papaya is so fucking good. Do you want any of my papaya? And she's like, no, no, no, no, I'm good with the basic salad.

And forgive me for forgetting this, but this is after she's like no no no no I'm good with the basic salad and forgive me for forgetting this but this is After she's after she's concious you're having sex dreams. She's had a very hot and steamy sex dream about him Charlotte I am all across the map, but Charlotte shoulders everyone's shit in this episode has a genuine medical condition She's dealing with no one's given her anything. I'm so angry at everyone for letting Charlotte down. Yeah. Lisa Todd Wexley, sort your shit out, man. You are a series of bad decisions. You presented as this like high functioning professional

in the creative world. I don't think you would have got to where you are with the incredibly bad decision-making that the show has shown me in this season. She was, she was doing fine until she met the gals. Fucking same dude. He don't hire someone who you're going to be working with for months and months and months, like one in a one-on-one setting. Uh, who you fucking got the hots for the moment you see that I had,

I had a visual moment of misunderstanding when watching the show because the story beat earlier in the season. And again, look, I'm not here to tell any of the writers how to do their job. And I'm not here to say that any of the ideas I have necessarily better than what is being served to us. But there was a storyline where Lisa top actually was, like she was having, she was talking in her sleep. Yeah. And so now we've had it explicitly labeled by her that she had a sex dream.

I mean, they must just be about to give this to us later on. A sex dream about Marion to Charlotte. Yes. And so the whole time I'm just waiting for like this, the circumstance where- For Herbert to hear her. Yeah, cause and Herbert would be- And they've shown Herbert- We already thought that was going to happen because they introduced her talking in her sleep after

Marion was in the picture. So like, they've fucking receded this grass that won't grow. She's horny and she's like, I've got a hot husband. I'm attracted to, we've got a great sex life. Well, sort of. That's sort of what she's saying to Sharla. And then she's channeling all her heat up energy at her husband. Exactly.

He's not causing it. But I must have been, you know, I must have been coming out of a pause and talking to Tristan. So I look back and when she was making moves on him and started talking kind of dirty to him, I was waiting for her to say, I thought she was asleep and was acting on a dream in her sleep and was going to say the name Marion and the conflict was going to come from there. Instead, the story is played like, oh, this is the man I'm sharing my life with. Oh, yeah. Same. Holy shit. Same. She's in bed with her, but and I'm like, she's going to say Marion's name. I got a moment. I don't see. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is the show doing?

I got to go to the bathroom and then he starts talking about domestic, you know, chores. Also, he talks like he doesn't know how to go to the grocery store. And I'm rooting for this guy. But he's like, hey, we need this stuff from the grocery store. It's like, well, fucking write it down yourself, my man. Can you please put toilet paper? No, he said, oh, can we put toilet paper on the shopping

list? It's like, yeah, man, you've got two kids who are basically adults at this point. I think you probably know how to do that I'm with you, but it was insane How much they lead you down the garden path that she's gonna say Marion's name in bed with Herbert and doesn't what the fuck man They just keep that this is the thing and it's it's what make me lose confidence and I also want to be clear I Think and I could be wrong when I'm sort of criticizing the way that they're treating

some of the stories in this show, and the distribute, and the distribute, the pace of distribution, I feel as though I'm actually speaking as a fan of the show. We are in it now. There is no layer of irony or observation from afar. We are now just part of the fandom. We're all rooting for you. Lisa? The show.

The show! Okay. I'm rooting for this show. And they keep, they'll get- I wish the show would start rooting for us. That's right. And they keep getting right up to the precipice. And then they go, nah, but, nah, actually, what's happening down here on pot 17?

And then fucking away they go. Speaking of the other parts, though, I had an absolute blast joining Charlotte at work with my favorite friends in the show, which is all of Charlotte's colleagues at the gallery. 100% So fun. They're setting up this installation, which might be a real piece, who's to say, where it's like a mattress laid out on the floor, they've got to put just the right amount of to say where it's like a mattress laid out on the floor. They've got to put just the right amount of pretend calm in a condom and lay it out perfectly to replicate this exhibition for an artist who died already. I think for an artist, for a trailblazing artist who made this sort of installation

piece about, you know, I think they've been referenced Lena Dunham's girls before Lena Dunham, when it wasn't, you know, normal or seen for women to be. And so you've got this scene that sloppy or whatever the word is that they're constructing. And it was just a I felt like that's what probably happens in a gallery. You got a bunch of like cool young people who have to meticulously and quite boringly like put together the installations. Yeah. And then because this is all for Charlotte's galleries opening. It's a big fund. It's a big fundraiser for reasons that are unclear to me.

But then and then they get a model to just lie and make it on the mattress, which is really like this cool. Who's given a line aka New York City ImprovWatch undoubtedly. Yes, 100%. The main contender. But also it was like, you know, after I criticised them for showing us these three women talking to each other that we've not seen before, I was like, they did it again. Were you so grateful to see them? I was like, wow, okay. Were you stoked?

They figured out if they push this button, it gives people something that they might like. The monkey is responding positively to this button. I like that, also our interpretation of the show is that they're making it week to week in real time based on The tweets that are out there or something. I fucking give me a bit of theory Honestly, you cannot tell me they met this all out a year and a half ago Can you imagine the fucking storyboarding for like the arcs of all the can you imagine all the post-it notes?

Can you imagine trying to try trying to color color code the storyboard? It's like they're not... It's fucking Charlie Day in the in the post room. They would actually have to start a new post-it company that has a greater range of colors than are available inside of any pre-existing post-it note company because the volume of characters whose story arcs are meant to track is greater than 10, which I suppose is the biggest possible pack of posters you can buy 3M have come up with

aforementioned unseen colors to the human eye ultra red that is now a post that you can buy because mattress pipe if you got a warehouse stationary you can get the 3M and just like that kit which means that you can tell a story with as many characters as you like So we're at the gallery that's going on we We've got the gals, the real gals. They are the gals. And what else is... Oh yeah, and Seema's hooking up with Adam. Yeah.

Very sexy stuff. What's the subplot there? So glad you asked. Seema uses deodorant and Adam doesn't. How do we find... I'm stoked to see a representative of the no soap community on screen. Yeah. I'm not one, but it's nice to see them.

One of the ways in which they see this is after having sex, and you know, it looks like they're having a great time. And then she says, did you come? And he says, no, I've got all night. You know, I thought perhaps the conflict based on the information the show's given me so far would be like, I can't sleep with a man if I can't, you know, like some sort of classic, exactly. Some sort of insecurity. But instead it was like, fuck yeah, this guy's here to fuck.

Seema's pumped up and then Adam rules Seema kinda sucks. She keeps saying over and over when they're having dinner together, if you like, you should have told me this, if you told me this earlier, I never would have got with you. One of them is his last name. I know, which is karma. His name is Adam Karma. And she's like, I thought it was come all karma. No, because like, isn't the whole thing that he's like, you know, crystals and no soap.

And his mom changed their all of their last name to karma. Because I assume she got real into meditation and Indian spirituality. Shout out to them for making it hard to follow because I thought it was Carmel. And I thought I thought the reveal was like, because he put on those yellow glasses and took care of the whole bill. Yeah. And I was like. Is this guy stacked? Is he from some old like I was like, oh, finally, the show's introduced

like a character from Earth. And then they were like, and by the way he's heir to the the Carmel Empire and he's got billions of dollars more than anything but also the gardener made him rich and also this guy's got more more money than all of them but that can't be right because Seymour would not respond to the information by being like you should tell me a surname I would broke. I would you know, she'd be like, huh fucking awesome She says like three times in this episode She says his last name the fact that he doesn't wear deodorant and I think there's one other thing

Yeah, I think he was making a joke when he said I use crystals or something Yeah, she responds to that as if it was an earnest, but she keeps being like why I never would have got with you It's like dude dude, fuck up. Yeah. It's not like you've got, also- Then leave. Most of your role so far has been complaining about the lack of people for you to fuck.

Exactly. So as soon as you find someone who's good at it, wants to do it with you, and is kind of a fucking legend, and you're like, no, no, no, no. I say this as a fan of the show. You're the problem, so come on. But the show's humbling of Seemim, her like embrace of this relationship has been an enjoyable story arc

And I think it has spotlighted a lot of her more redeeming qualities I don't know you say she's been humble, but I actually I want to see her really truly like kneecapped in life not literally Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I've got her in ubers wearing an eyepatch. You know, they're doing their best to scale They're doing their best to scale. They're doing their best. That's a good point. But he knows a lot about smells for a guy who doesn't like deodorant. He understands smells. And we discover this because not only do we get to watch Marion perform cunnilingus on a papaya, we also get to watch Adam perform cunnilingus on Seema's armpit. Yes. He gets right in there. They're having a great time. and then later on when the deodorant thing comes out,

he starts writing analysis on what she wears, and she's like, yeah, I wear that, I got it right here. And the thing that prompts all of this is they see, which is like the least subtle piece of storytelling ever, is they're in a restaurant and they look behind them and the woman is by herself at a table over, is putting deodorant on at the table. Now, that moment to me, as someone who's never seen the original show. Seemed like a real moment from the original show. Yeah. They seem like that's what sex in the city used to be. It's like a weird thing happens is, you know, Seinfeld, but sexy for women. It was like a weird thing happens. And now we all comment on that. And it's like, we have a discussion about that's a weird

thing. Where are we with people applying deodorant to themselves in the restaurant? Yeah, it was nice. It was kind of it was nice and interesting to have something that wasn't just solely about people's fucking complicated relationships. These people are all 60. I don't know. I've just got some hope. How old do you think they are? I guess I recently learned that Sarah Jessica Parker is 60 in real life.

So now I'm transposing that onto the character of Carrie, but love to know her workout regimen. She's like, Oh, she looks incredible. It's unbelievable. Yeah. I think I, I think I did know that, but it's staggering to hear to receive his information. Look, it's not important.

It's, it's how old they are. It's just, it all feels like, I mean, there, there is one somewhat substantial story beat peppered through this episode. Harry's balls? No. Charlotte's alcoholism. Harry got the surgery, oh yeah, you're right, we should talk about that. Harry got the surgery, by the way, is treated with no respect in this episode whatsoever.

The one person who's got something very real going on within themselves has played entirely for laughs. Yeah, I'm here for it. Good. Yeah. Why? Because cis white men like him have had it too good for that's right. Harry's is icing his gigantic balls in his and Charlotte's King single beard that for some fucking unforesaken reason, they continue to share that if everything is going to continue to drive me, I just cannot fathom. Like for it to maybe they're shooting it with different cameras.

I just can't, it's just crazy to me. The beard is comically small. Anyway, he's icing his balls. Charlotte's like, Lisa told me, Lisa's here to visit you, which is nice. Yeah. And she's like, don't talk about your balls, which I'm like, well, they're all friends. Surely they can handle a little bit of this. This is again, what is this faux decor decorum exactly? Yeah again this kept happening

Lisa Todd weeks like I mean what it is, but she uses like interesting wording when she's talking to Charlotte about her sex dream I'm like you guys are all fucking middle-aged. Yeah, say sex a penis Yeah, vagina say vulva say say can't probably not cuz you're American but you know like Rule yeah, this is fine. No one watching the show is under the age of 35 Got you've all been friends for years go there Harry's let's talk about his balls He's like a 60 year old man who just got yeah surgery to and then Lisa from his He's talking about it and shall I bring it up with Lisa then Lisa's like I got you these giant Macadamia nuts from Hawaii and he's like you got a large nuts, huh? That's a propa. Yeah

Like I'm trying to put the pieces of the joke together You will never understand the joke No more jokes, but this whole show is just sort of fucking bubbling along on the surface It's just a bunch of sort of largely vapid conversations about people who we are supposed to be invested in. And then meanwhile, the whole time they're dangling this carrot of like, by the way, remember last season we gave Miranda a massive drinking problem. Was it the season before?

She overcame it. And now Miranda is being challenged because Joy brought a bottle of her face. She came from a workshop to Montreal. She bought a bottle of her favorite gin and Miranda's house. Miranda doesn't drink. That's the extent of the conversation with Joy. And she's like, Oh, you can leave this here. That's fine. She's not revealed that she's an alcoholic. And then she goes, she goes out and she's like, Hey, I was thinking, you know, Joy bought this bottle over and I know it was having a problem drink, you know, having a bit of my problem with the drink last year, but I'm feeling better. And I'm thinking like, I want to talk to Joy about it. And I'm thinking maybe, and they were like, maybe I'm not an alcohol. And then it's sort of like, I don't know, I just, it was, it made me tense. I will say to the, to the credit of the story telling like Miranda's relationship to that glass of champagne.

And then when she was trying to work, by the way, the problem with her work wasn't that she couldn't get in the work. It's that she's got that, you don't need to be streaming that fucking, this is what normal people do. Love Island style reality show. This is what normal people do while they work. Is it? Bang something on.

You punch down a little report you don't care about. Fucking chuck your show on. Absolutely. Does AI exist in this universe? No. Because Carrie and AI couldn't exist in the same universe. To an extent, neither could Charlotte. Charlotte is the previous model of chat GPT.

She is so affirming to everything one of her friends has to say. She's very validating of everything Lisa Todd-xley is doing which she shouldn't be she is surprisingly Validating of everything Miranda's doing which she absolutely shouldn't be Carrie at least is putting up a little orange light to be like you're an out She doesn't say this but she should be like you're an alcohol. Yeah. Yeah, and also Charlotte no show Miranda just fucking tell tell Joy this is so stupid. I know you're building up tension in the show

and everything, but this is so, it's just, you're being stupid. This is, yeah. Just tell her, it's gonna be fine. Central issue is the way they choose to build tension is by making, like, is by, which is normal to have the characters make bad decisions, but it's like. It's uninteresting storytelling

because the decisions they're making are too dumb. They're too dumb. Like Joy's gonna be fine. Miranda gives this monologue about how she wants to retain the current phase in the relationship, which is fun and sexy. And she doesn't want to be this big, serious,

putting the brakes on, I'm an alcoholic type to Joy. It's like, dude, you're all,'re all forgive me old while you're there credit to Uh, Carrie because my shining light was Miranda saying, you know, we're just having this nice time I don't want to be I knew to sit you down I'm an alcoholic And then Carrie was like well, maybe don't do it in that voice That joke I was like that joke's there for anyone you took it. I respect it I would if I was in your stilettos, I would have done the same damn thing also big alarm bell

Yeah, okay got the rug in the house Yeah, did you see that as a nifty bit of storytelling? Of course, of course you got a lot more faith in these writers than I do. I know shining light. Yeah I'm not introducing anything you. Marion eating that papaya. It is, it is, it was hot. He's so hot. This guy, the guy genuinely to the credit to whoever cast him, he's unspeakably good looking. It was the funniest thing the show has done to this point in the three seasons it's done so far.

I fucking cracked up. That's awesome. We just opened on being right up in there. This is what I miss. Tropical fruit. And I don't get to see it with you. I'm missing you see that. There's a couple of other pizza miscellaneous I want to cover off.

Go on. Number one is. Who's Giuseppe? Giuseppe's mom still there. That's right. And I think she's based on Elon Musk's mom. Maybe I got a bit of May. Yeah. Well, I laid it out in the last episode, there's a pick a path where either she's choosing to like, because as you observed, she's

so blind to the mirror between like the treatment of her stepchildren to her and her treatment to Anthony. And so I thought, well, maybe she's realized that and it's gonna stick around to get known, or she's gonna stick around and try and drive a wedge in it. It turns out it's option B. She's trying to drive a wedge between these guys with sort of admirable intensity. And she's trying to buy her sudden apartment.

She describes Anthony as old and short term. Insubstantial at one point. Yeah. Um, I just wanted to acknowledge that they have not totally, I mean, they barely remembered it, but they've not totally forgotten that this is something that they're trying to do. Congratulations. Multi-million dollar show.

You remember Giuseppe's mum is in the city. Tip of the hat to you. The other thing I wanted to say, I quite simply cannot remember. Well, let me say, because this is useful for no one. But when Giuseppe's mum was in there and that guy popped up, who I think owns the gallery, runs the gallery. The guy from Legally Blonde. Not to me, because my head immediately went, Sydney's dad. And then I was like, who's Sydney?

What am I talking about? And I Googled it and it was from the like early 2000s, Jennifer Garner show alias. She plays like double agent. She is Sydney. That's her dad. I didn't remember Jennifer Garner was in it. I didn't remember who Sydney was. It just, I saw that guy and I went, it's Sydney's dad. Isn't it strange how memory can work sometime? Yeah. I spent a lot of the weekend trying to remember the exact quote from Legally Blonde. Which says, she exercises, oh, she eats chocolate, chocolate releases endorphins, endorphins

make you happy. Happy people just don't kill their husbands. I opened up a vein before and I almost did what the show has been doing to us the whole time. The other bit of this episode where someone is eating food. So we have the opposite ends of the spectrum. Marion shining light. So funny.

So hilarious. The other end of the spectrum. Miranda eats a cookie at the end of this episode and I don't know if they've got her lapelled or if they've got the boom microphone somehow right next to her but hidden. But the sounds that Cynthia Nixon is making with her mouth which they've perfectly mic'd up, fucking sent me into an absolute rage. Like my both fists boiled up into fists when she was eating that cookie. Did that even register on your radar at all? She eats it like this. It's fucking, man it drove me crazy. You got to rewatch just that bit of the episode. It's not like it was disgusting.

And it made me so mad, man. It set me right off. Horrible. Sorry to hear it. Disgusting, horrible thing for the show to do. What's the flavor that the show left you on? And sadly, in this instance, it's the flavor the podcast is going to leave you on, because that's all the analysis we have time for. We have had a conversation that ran longer than the program itself.

And that feels wrong. Mm. In this instance, it feels right. I think we've got somewhere interesting. I'm grateful to be in your company. Looking forward to next episode where we get to see some penis in vagina. That's right. If you're listening That's what the people want make it happen now entering America. It's a second invasion. Let's go. Oh the other thing

Sorry, this is my Miranda's cookie in the mouth. Yeah, they're at the art exhibition There's a like there's the blurb for the sort of vision of the whole thing on the wall and Carrie Because she does voiceover in the show, I guess the show thinks that if there are words, we have to hear Carrie read them. Carrie stands there next to her two equally intelligent friends and reads the blurb to them like they are waiting, you know, like they're waiting for her to let them go into the gallery and have a look around. The alternative is we read it by the camera just staying on it

on the plaque and the show. Yeah did it change the way that you experienced the exhibition? Me? Yeah it's crazy I'm going to go to bed.