The Worst Idea Of All Time - Good Times: 04

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

Where were you on the morning of Saturday, September 7th (Friday the 6th if you’re a Substack member)? Here to serve as your alibi, an interrogative episode of Good Times, The Hon. Guy A.H. Montgomery and Timothy A. Batt presiding. Guy has been reading a lot of detective novels and is in an interrogative mood (also caused in part by another book he’s read, Padgett Powell’s “The Interrogative Mood.”) Tim, meanwhile, is full of answers, bringing some hot, current pop culture takes on the woke mind virus and the Kendrick v Drake beef.Our intro music, “Los Angeles,” courtesy of Eyeliner.Get episodes early and in video on our Substack! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Okay. It's time. Is it time? Now I got a question for you. Is it time to be good? Nah. Or it's just a good time? I would argue that it's the opposite.

Good times is time to be bad. Get down with your bad self. Behave as you want. Yeah. There are no consequences for actions here. Come as you are, behave as you will. Say what you like. Yeah.

You should say what you were saying just before we started recording. What was I saying before? You were solving a lot of problems. Go on. Well, you were just saying people are going soft and language can't hurt. I didn't say soft.

Yeah. I said woke. Yeah. Yeah, you were accusing people of having didn't say soft. Yeah. I said woke. Yeah. Yeah. You were accusing people of having the woke mind virus. Yeah, that's right. That's what I talk about these days. Can I say this is quite old now, but God, it made me laugh when there was an

earnest conversation between Jordan B. Yeah. Jordan B Peterson and Elon Musk. And they were earnestly talking about the woke mind virus. Elon was saying one of his children who is trans has the woke mind virus. Yeah, did you see the response on Twitter from said child? Being like... They popped off and they were like...

My dad's not a good dad. My dad's insane and wasn't around whatsoever when I was a kid. And then also... You were in... This is why we have the screens up, guy. You're dirtying up my shot. Oh, well, for what it's worth. You're muddying up my shot, too Oh, am I shit? This is why this is why we have the screen and if I'm you know for those of you watching the line So you can enjoy that you can enjoy these filthy shot. He's grubby horny little shots

That was funny. Yeah, it's funny the way that there is reverence for a man who's so clearly Yeah, it's funny the way that there is reverence for a man who's so clearly Why I guess he's not traditionally thick, but he's not bright He's lost his mind and then and he was like pretty kooky before but he's he's like full-on should be you know Care of some professionals right now. We've got little magnets in us you and I we're always drawn to musk and cats musk of cats the musk Cape musk Yeah, McCavity's the musk of cats Are we drawn to Peterson just because of his proximity to musk just as funny little voice and the fact that he was like

You gotta eat meat and he got really The other thing that happened in the end. This is so old and I don't know why I'm talking about it, but Elon Musk was like, yeah, I got injured fighting a sumo wrestler. And he was like, yeah, my wife wasn't well, but she ate meat for three years. She had to stick at it, but it worked. And Elon Musk, you can see like, anyway, so Elon Musk brazenly, outwardly, a moron and then Joe Rogan, who it's so funny to me is platform to all these comedians, helped launch so many comedy careers through his podcast. And then he puts out a stand up special. No one is being like, you got none of the people

who he's helped launch are sharing it to be like, you got to check out my voice. He doesn't need it. And he's got a joke in it where he's like, I'm friends with Elon Musk and it's like a dog. It's like an owner and a dog and I'm the dog. Jesus Christ. Have some self- respect. Good times.

Today on Good Times. Brought to you, hopefully, not formally, as in F-O-R-M-E-R-L-Y, nor F-O-R-M-A-L-L-Y by Mosh Bars, which I've since found out, since we last spoke,

actually, early in its launch appeared on shark tank. Okay. Maria Shriver and Patrick Schwarzenegger pitched mosh bars on, on the TV show shark tank. You and I love shark tank. We engaged in a project that sort of, um, was inspired a little bit by shark tank. Yeah.

Kill your near really confused. I was, yeah, I was looking for support in the room. Oh, okay. I know I was, I was, I was making sure that we were recording this conversation. That's awesome, man. God forbid that we have a conversation that's just for us. I simply will not allow it. Yeah.

We are recording by the way. We have device on all the time. So, it's nice to share that heavy burden with you. More to discuss about Mosh. I just want to let some people know as well that we're returning to the segment, the Forgotten Art of the Phone Call. Oh great. We're going to make a phone call.

Huge. You and I. I love that. Yeah. And I've, I've, I've sourced a question for you from a book. It's an American novelist called Padgett Powell. And in 2009, he published a book

called The Interrogative Mood. I bought it, I can't remember where maybe at an airport and it is not a novel really, even though I thought it was. Okay. It's basically an assault of questions. It is just a, it's question upon question. It's just paragraphs and paragraphs of questions. Yeah.

And I've got to tell me about this book. I would have. Yeah. I've got, and I've got a question for you Fantastic first page of the book is Everything in the book a question like every yeah, there's nothing but questions Yeah, and they are addressed squarely at you the reader. What is it called again? The interrogative mood the interrogative Interrogative now, that's a good spelling word. And this is how I perceive words now. I didn't even know it was a word interrogative You're a word interrogative.

You're being very interrogative. Oh, it feels hefty. It feels like a... That's what I say to my bitch wife when she asks how my day was. You're being very interrogative, good God. You said that we can say whatever we like. I thought I'd try it out.

Yeah, how'd it feel? Awesome? It did feel kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Anyhow, first things first, episode of course is brought to you by our friends at Mosh, but also Random Word Generator.

We like, oh, okay. Today's random word. Da da da da da da. Plaintiff. Plaintiff. What does it mean? See, it's interesting because when you said oh my god what's the word again the entire interrogative yes is that it interrogative

you don't know secret about the word interrogative please two r's okay you're welcome right next to each other if you find the first start the second one won't be far behind that's what i say about the letter r good to know interrogative find the two R's and you're sweet. Yeah. If you hit the O, you've gone too far. That's nice. Yeah, there should be a segment in spelling, but you're giving directions like map directions on words. If you hit this, you've gone too far. If you hit the T, you've gone too far. Yes. It's two R's and it's somewhere though. So it's interrogative and plaintiff.

I thought of a undercover cop when you said interrogative. Am I saying it right? Yeah. I've been reading cop books. I've been reading these books by an, she was an actor, an Irish actor called Tana French. And she published these sort of crime detective novels. The first was called In the Woods and the second was called The Likeness. And they're very they're sort of they're 600 page page turners. They're very moreish, very lived and really enjoyable books. They're obviously old. Destroy it on a fly. Exactly. One sitting. And yeah.

And then regret burning the book on the flight. Yeah. And then pick up a copy and read this one. Just a bit of fun with words. Anyhow, now when I read about crime, when I think about crime, when I have a guy like you talking about an undercover police officer or what do you call it? A word like plaintiff?

Yeah, I think I'm smart. Gotcha, because you've read the book. Because I can think like a fictitious cop. Are these books that you've read from the perspective of the criminal? No, they're from... Or are they third person perspective? I'll tell you one thing I thought was quite cool. They're from the detective's perspective, but they've both got a protagonist.

So the first book, there's these partners, and it's told from the perspective of the male partner. And he's in free fall at some point, he of capitulating in the book inside of the case and then the second book which is a it's it's a sequel it's sort of a linear sequel but instead of picking up where the you know on the protagonist of the first book instead it's told from the perspective of his partner the woman who's now working who's got a different life now a different case so they're like of a kind of partner. Not romantic partner.

Cop partner. We've gone with their partnership. I mean, I can't, I can't talk without spoilers too much. I've said enough. We've thrown over to here to continue the different case, different, everything. But we know her, but we don't know her as her. We know her as seen through the eyes of the protagonist of the first book. Yeah. Temporal arc. We know her, but we don't know her as her, we know her as seen through the eyes of the protagonist of the first book. Yeah, as told by Ginger, as sung by

Macy Gray. Yeah. Found a YouTube channel. It was three hours of Nickelodeon cartoons. How'd that go for you? Put it on. There was Kablam. Oh, Kablam? Yeah, Kablam ruled. Prometheus and Bob was from Kablam. Yeah. That was a really good show. Kablam, I enjoyed it a lot. Multimedia, it was a front runner, wasn't it? It felt like one of those ones where they were really throwing shit at the wall. I think I probably watched that as a precursor to the dawn of adult swim. Yes.

And adult swim. Robot Chicken is like adult Kablam. Yeah, Robot Chicken I never quite quite fucked with a deep level neither Look, there's always it. No We're fine here. What was it about robot chicken that didn't quite spin your wheels. I Never watched enough of it to know exactly what it was trying to do Yeah, I think it was and the little snippets I did watch or see were amusing but not they didn't tickle my funny bone in a way that made me want more. If you haven't seen Robot Chicken hopefully I'm

remembering it correctly. Seth Green created a show where it's like claymation plasticine stop-motion characters and he's ripped sort of characters and references from all these different universes so there's lots like Transformers stuff in there and Star Wars these sorts of enterprises and references from all these different universes. So there's lots of like Transformers stuff in there and Star Wars, these sorts of enterprises. But it's funny. Yeah. And they do funny things. Well, it's kind of fanfic, but done through claymation.

Yeah. You say it's funny. You weren't a fan. Well, that's right. Yeah. Anyway, we've got a lot to get to. Do we? Yeah. OK. I've said three things. You have. I've said more, but there are three things I want to get to. Three things on the menu. What's our starter? I really, well, I really want to check out this Shark Tank pitch. I found it. Now, before we do that, we've got to get to the bottom of the plaintiff is the person who's on trial. Is that right? The defendant and the plaintiff. The plaintiff. Then the defendant is the person on trial. What is the plaintiff? The plaintiff is not the accuser

The plot I only know the word plaintiff from Judge Judy Or the plaintiff is the victim the plaintiff it kind of is the accuser I guess the plaintiff is there like the defendants like I didn't do this and the plaintiffs like this is the person bringing the Charge yeah, the defendant is they they're like, they could be, they could get in trouble. The plaintiff is not at risk of getting in trouble. There's two reasons we don't know this. Number one, we're not that smart.

Number two, it's an American word, I think. Here's how I perceive it. You read all those cop books. I've just said, yeah, they're in Ireland. Ah, there you go. Yeah. The defendant could get in trouble. The plaintiff cannot. Speaking of trouble, Ireland, troubles. Yeah. The defendant could get in trouble. The plaintiff cannot-

Speaking of trouble, Ireland, troubles. It's all connected. Oh yeah. And the plaintiff can't get in trouble, but they might not get what they deserve or want. Okay. That's the differentiation there. You're welcome.

The plaintiff is Mick Jagger. Yeah. The defendant- So in our podcast- Guy Montgomery. Who, yeah. Wait, what's Mick Jagger accusing me of? Oh, I just, you can't always get what you want. Yeah. The defendant. In our podcast. John Montgomery. Yeah. Wait, what's Mick Jagger accusing me of?

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I am the defendant and you are the plaintiff. Is that, is that how you feel? Always. Is it? Uh, constantly victimized, put on trial by you. But no, but the defendant shouldn't feel victimized. I guess. No, I should.

Yeah. Shouldn't I? In the context of the trial. Yeah. Innocent until proven guilty as me as the defendant. But here I am being hauled into a court having to defend myself. Yeah. Just because you were bored.

I wasn't bored. You wronged me. How did I wrong you you swindled me? Yes, you swindled me out of When you made us watch we are your friends 60 times. Yep, you swindled me out of eight weeks of my life Well, not eight for weeks. I Did the way it was hanging over me. Okay, right. So you feel you are owed eight weeks. You owe me eight weeks of my life. Or you owe me eight weeks of

I reckon the funniest thing I've ever done to you is when we watched was it Sex in the City 2? And I think we'd watched it twice. And then I put it on again. I think we watched it once then I put it on again. I think we watched it once and you put it on again. And I, there was, there was a, you did have an unusual psychological hold over me because obviously I could have walked out of the room. You were so weakened. But I just said no, no.

You were so beaten down and tired and it just kicked. Oh, I think it was, was that 12 hour energy actually? Five hour energy. Five hour energy, which means it must have been six in the city to twice We did the directors commentary and I thought it would be funny to loop it That's out there somewhere. Yep, and we're gonna make it so much easier for you to find it. Hey, that's great So now we've got the bollards are gonna be on YouTube what a plaintiff is that might already be I Want to go back to our spot? I may be sponsored Mosh first things first Patty Schwartz hasn't go back to our maybe sponsor Mosh. First things first, Patty Schwartz hasn't gone back to me, hasn't even read it.

It's so nice to have a maybe sponsor. It's like an open relationship. We're putting vibes out there. I've been trying to do more research into Mosh bars. Yes. And so they've pitched on, so I mean, what better research than hearing them pitch the product to business brains. Should we do that now? Let's just have a little bit of it.

Oh, actually, we'll just hear it through the TV speaker, but we'll edit the, hey, if Tim's editing this, or Brendan, pop this video in, thanks. Cheers. Hi, sharks, I'm Maria Shriver, and this is my incredible son. And hi, sharks, I'm Patrick Schwarzenegger, and obviously this is my amazing mother,

but she's also my business partner in our new venture. Mosh. Patrick, what's my hot version of us is a protein bar, but specifically for your brain. Okay. Um, okay. Can I tell you what immediately comes to mind? Wish you would. I love the rehearsed pattern. It's amazing to do a sync like these guys do not need to be doing this. And the synchronized mosh and the force like, Hey, mom, tell me this. Okay, Patrick, what about this? Yeah, there's a lot to like here.

But that's how this is the format. Okay, I think I found it. All right. Can you replay that clip again? Yeah. Hi, sharks. I'm Maria Shriver. And this is my incredible son. And hi, sharks. I'm Patrick Schwarzen. Yeah. Hi Sharks, I'm Maria Shriver and this is my incredible son. And hi Sharks, I'm Patrick Schwarzenegger and obviously this is my amazing mother but she's also my business partner in our new venture, Mosh. Patrick, what's Mosh?

That's a great question. Mosh is a protein barb made specifically for your brain. All right, stop it there. Is your hair as dull and lifeless as your brain? Didn't work start at nine? Where's your shirt? Did you even remember to wear it? I know you. I used to be you until I discovered ShamBrain. Shampoo for your hair and your brain. That's amazing and can I just say while we're here, everyone wants to know where that clip is from.

It's from the Sheen Brain episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. And that last voice you heard was Al Roker. And I don't know how they got onto that cameo, but it rolls. The way that the ad inside of Space Ghost was framed, that is how the interrogative mood, the book by Padraig Powisping that is written. So it just starts like this. It goes, are your emotions pure? Are your nerves adjustable?

How do you stand in relation to the potato? Should it still be Constantinople? Does a nameless horse make you more nervous or less nervous than a named horse? In your view, do children smell good? These are fantastic questions. It's unbelievable. What a great book.

Just it's it's it's sort of novella size, but it's just unrelenting questions. I'd like you to answer the horse one. Sure. Does an un does a nameless horse? An unnamed horse makes more sense to me. I feel like a named horse that is us putting a human rubric on them. So an unnamed horse, but it's not about what makes sense. I'm at more ease with an unnamed horse.

Are you? Yes. I'm- That is a horse being a horse. No, I'm more- A horse named Crystal? We've been fucking with that horse too much. Makes me uneasy. I disagree. I'm more comfortable around a horse with a name. An unnamed horse, who knows what they're cut.

You know, like a horse is a wild animal. Yeah, it's supposed to be. Yeah. Does that make you, I think in your vision, like I would be on your side if I thought that horses would take over the world and dole out justice based on those who showed them respect

or didn't when humans were in charge. But as things currently stand, Conquest are solely a human pursuit. Horses just want to be left alone. They don't need names. They don't need us to get them sugar cubes. They just want to be left alone running wild and free. But why, why, why are you more relaxed around a horse without a name?

Wait, what is the specific question? It's more relaxed around a horse. Is it? Yeah. Cause this is crucial now. Does a nameless horse make you more nervous or less nervous? It's such an interesting question. Than a named horse.

Cause what the question isn't saying, but I think a lot of people take the implication of and you have is the horse is with us in the room. The horse is right here. If that horse is standing next to us, if that's the given situation, you're totally right. I'd want that horse to have a name. But I take more comfort conceptually in a horse not having a name.

Yeah, but you've created a different question. I I don't think I have political question in does a nameless horse make you more nervous or less nervous than a named horse nervous I guess is specific isn't it yeah the nerves are it's sort of like the nerves to me are associated with the the chaos the physical chaos or harm a horse could Yeah, you know wreak upon you you're right about that which suggests. It's here which suggests the horse Yeah, like I would sooner have a horse that has been domesticized to the point of we it's we can predict some of its movements Or behaviors sure an unnamed horse. Oh, yeah, no question Yeah, but yes, but I also understand what you're saying, which is-

But that's not nervousness, that's a different thing. So you're right, you're totally right. But you feel more at ease with the concept of all horses being- Not having a name. Yeah, having total agency. R&D P, we don't need to label everything. Yeah, there was a-

We done with Patty by the way? I'm getting him off my screen. But I say by the fact that he does look like can we can we hear from them a little more, please? Can we hear from them just a little bit?

Oh, I'd love to hear the pitch. OK, smarty pants. What's in Mosh? Well, we are loaded with 12 to 13 grams of protein. We have ingredients that support a healthy brain like

Omega 3s, vitamin D12, vitamin D3, functional mushrooms like lion's mane, ashwagandha, or non-GMO, gluten-free, high in fiber, and so much more. We are delicious, nutritious, and best of all, we are a mission-driven company. We give back to Alzheimer's research, which is a cause near and dear to both of us.

My dad, who you can see over here, Sergeant Shriver, was diagnosed with Alzheimer's back in 2003. He passed away in 2011, but ever since he was diagnosed, I have been working day in and day out trying to find a cure for Alzheimer's, which impacts millions and millions of people. So what do we want from these sharks? Well, we want them to start thinking

about their brain and their body, but also we're searching for $500,000 for a two. Patty bringing it back to this. What do we want from these sharks? Well, we want them to be healthy and whatnot, but mostly it's money. Half a million dollars. It's difficult to nitpick because there's a personal element to the pitch of my dad, you know, was an Alzheimer's sufferer. Yes, but it is.

I struggle to believe that this is the only way to go about funding research for Alzheimer's. No, no, no, no, this is it. If your mission is to solve Alzheimer's, the Occam's race, the quickest way to do that is start a company that makes protein bars. For your brain. For your brain, for your brain.

Well, and this is the thing is we are obviously huge fans of Mosh and the more I learn, I mean, the more I like, I'm all in on this story. These guys don't want the money for their pockets. They want it. Maria Shriver, famous scientist, has spent her life researching how to solve Alzheimer's, hasn't made a huge amount of inroads.

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And when you're in the Schwarzenegger Schreiber household, everything is a business opportunity, including the incurable neurodegenerative disorders of your parents. Well, let's create a bar. Yeah. And that's why we're so happy to probably have Mosh as a sponsor. We are grateful for their custom or patronage.

Mosh life. Mosh life. If you go along theage. Mosh life. Mosh life. If you go along to the website, mosh life, I mean, look, I'm not gonna lie. It's not like we suddenly have a code. If we had a code, believe me, you'd be the first to know. You'd know it already. Because we would have told you.

Yes. So as things, you know, as it exists, we don't have a code. But do you know what? You don't need a code to be sponsored by someone. You absolutely, just ask Blaze Pizza. This is selfless. We don't have a code but do you know what? You don't need a code to be sponsored by someone. You absolutely just asked Blaze Pizza. This is selfless. We don't need a code. We don't need a cut of the profits. We don't need to be paid money or even contra by Mosh to be sponsored by Mosh. That being said it would be pretty cool if we were paid. Yes. I mean it would be by Mosh. It wouldn't hurt. They're making money.

I wonder why can't we all make money? I wonder if they would buy Marsh. It wouldn't hurt. They're making money. I wonder if they... Why can't we all make money? I wonder if they close this deal. Well, let's find out. You want to keep going? Yeah. This is 22 minutes long. I don't think we should just watch a whole shark tank, Ed. Why don't you skip ahead, Guy,

see if you can find a conclusion. Because otherwise, what this has turned into, and an interesting turn of events, is Tim and Guy starting a streaming channel where they watch Patty Schwarzenegger on Shark Tank and do reacts. One, I love what you're doing. Although I do have the same challenges as my fellow sharks.

Look, we admit it is crowded. But we're not trying to be a protein bar company. We're trying to be a brain health company. We're trying to be a mission-driven, we're trying to be a mission driven company. So our goal is how do we create supplements? How do we create powders? How do we create so many different product lines? 90 percent of our customers the number one reason they come to us How do we create all these things? These are the questions. I would suggest getting attached with a nutrition less nutritionist It's good. It was not it was nice to see Patty on the hop there nutritionists or food scientists? It was nice to see Patty on the hop there. On the hustle?

I'm so used to seeing him in total control. It was nice to see him under the squeeze a bit. On the back foot. It's where those Schwarzenegger's go to eat. Where it's uncomfortable. That we're running out of time. And I've promised a phone call in this episode and by God I want to get to one. Well I haven't even set my phone. I don't even know if this will...

How do we make this work? Let's get it done. So our phone call today is with a special guest. Yeah, it's with a special guest. It's not with... Once you're connected... I don't know if it'll connect. You don't even know who we're calling. I thought I did. Do you? Oh yeah, I think you do.

I was going to make a surprise for you Now it'll be surprised. It'll be a surprise if the phone call works It'll be I'll tell you who to be a surprise for the listener Because they don't know who we're calling and then when they hear them pick up they'll say hello Maybe they won't even say their name. Yeah, but maybe you know when I was a kid I would say my full legal name and I pick up the phone. Maybe they'll recognize Maybe the listener will recognise their distinct cadence. You know, when my voice dropped,

I used to say my dad's name. When I was a boy, before my voice dropped, I used to pretend I was my sister. And then when my voice got deep enough, I'd pretend it was dad. Cause he would always go on his phone going, Steven. And so I go, Steven.

And then sometimes his friends would start talking. Like I was Steven. Yes. And I wouldn't understand what that's. I imagine that'd be a lot of fun for you. Um, did you engage in any, Oh, can we hear it? It doesn't, I can't hear anything, which is bad. Can I?

Yeah. Well, I don't think this is going to work guy. This might make it a prank phone call. Um, do you know what? We'll be right back. Okay. Wait, what? We'll be right back. Okay. Wait. What?

Before you go. This is sometimes what a phone call's like. This is important. Sometimes you can't get a hold of the person you want to talk to. And that's part of life. This is kind of what's happening now. Well, I mean, there's a technical is what's happening now, right?

So it's not like we couldn't get a hold of them. Yeah. It's like there's a technical. Yeah. That's less likely, but I think it's important that in this episode, we deal with the realism of the fact that every now and then you try to make a call and the call doesn't work. The very thin effort we made was rumbled at the first hurdle and accordingly we have to give up. Outrageous. In that case, with our remaining time that the fun call was going to go into,

I'd like to tell you about something I did yesterday. I spent three hours listening to a YouTube video while I cleaned the garage on Kendrick Lamar versus Drake. Wow. This episode is, we're about, I don't know how many months late, but I followed that. I listened to all the songs consecutively when they were coming out. Did you? What did you learn?

Did you learn? Because the main thing that happened was it was a really, I mean, you know, I think that the rap heads all wanted Kendrick to win. Yes. But it was sort of a really, I mean, you know, I think that the rap heads all wanted Kendrick to win. Yes. But it was sort of a little bit neck and neck because Drake's got, you know, ability and numbers. And then basically, he got caught a pedophile and the argument ended. He got bodied, kind of and then just absolutely irrecoverable after after that song came out. Were you

how closely were you listening in real time? Yeah, cuz what I did learn that I didn't know before is They're not like us is what's called. Yeah, they that he dropped that like About a minute after Drake dropped a response district to his last dropped a response diss track to his last track and he already had it loaded up. He outmaneuvered Drake. It was fucking crazy stuff. And he had done all this,

Kendrick Lamar had bookmarked exactly how the tit for tat was going to go down and foretold it pretty exactly. Yeah, and then he did this like he did a live. He did a, he did a big concert in LA and like half the NBA and the rap community came out. The Bloods and the Crips joined them on set. Like he literally united the world and calling Drake a pedophile.

Four, like they all came out for the song. I don't think anyone in the public eye has been devastated more than, than what we saw happen there, what we lived through. You know, I wasn't even a part of it. Celebrity on celebrity rap on rap violence. But what I did learn in the video. Does the video think that it was cynical what they were both doing? No, not from Kendrick's point of view.

It actually like it was good to kind of get a really in depth viewpoint, you know, from a real hip-hop head who was an older dude. I think he seemed like he was about 40, so he kind of knew like a lot of the cultural historical context leading up to this and he was not a Drake fan. Yeah, which was good. But that's no, that's the issue. You need someone who's either a fan of both or a neutral. Well, he was I don't know if you can be neutral if you're so passionate about hip-hop you know like you almost have to I mean seeing it because he was the thing the

thesis is right that Drake sort of doesn't belong in hip-hop mmm is what a lot of people believe I don't prescribe to that yeah fair enough I think that's a fault a faulty premise that's fine But there's what a lot of people believe Yeah, and so I think the perception was it was kind of like this This outsider who was basically a pop R&B musician who was good at rapping so kind of like went in there did it versus Kendrick Lamar Who was this like almost studious, you know, child of hip hop, who was so like passionate about the tenants, the traditions.

Drake, I mean, but Drake's always been like an opportunist, like a pop star. Yeah. You know, they're different. That's how you get that rich. They're different people. Yeah. They're doing different things.. That's how you get that rich. They're different people. Yeah. They're doing different things. And then they decided to have an argument.

So it ended so badly. Yeah. What's Drake doing right now? How do you come back from this? Who knows? DMing someone. Yeah, probably. Sitting on a pile of money.

Yeah. Send DMs. If we had a Kendrick vs Drake style public feud. You and I. Yeah. Yeah. If we had a Kendrick versus Drake style public feud. You and I? Yeah, yeah. Who would we play in the feud? Yeah. Who would be Drake and who would be Kendrick if it was Tim Batten, Guy Montgomery?

I don't know. What is our shared... It feels like an imperfect analogy. Yeah. For so many reasons. If it was like, if it was, um, say the, the battleground was like podcasting. Yeah. I think I'm Drake and you're Kendrick.

I think it's a funny, um, everyone, if you're in a relationship right now, it's time for you to figure out who in your relationship is Kendrick and who is Drake and every relationship there's a Kendrick and a Drake and you got to figure out who you are. I was having uh, Chelsea was telling me the other day that and I think she, I can't remember who she got it from, but she was trying to figure out who's the rock and who's the star. Every relationship's got a rock. Oh not the rock. Yeah. Not Dwayne Johnson. Every relationship's got a rock and a star. But not the rock. No. A rock. One relationship has the rock, and that's his marriage. Yeah. But ironically, he's probably the star.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, the partner would be the rock. The real rock? The rock's wife, Mrs. The Rock. Yeah. Please. Mrs. The Rock is what she does when the rock's busy at work.

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