The Worst Idea Of All Time - Good Times: 28
Episode Date: March 23, 2025The Good Times boys have been rolling the hard six. Guy has been gambling on some new material in front of the Australian masses while Tim has been conducting an unprecedented sweep in his sports-bett...ing league (and has taking away all the wrong lessons). The continuing gamble of having someone who is tattooed on your body re-enter the public spotlight has the fellas feeling all sorts of ways.Get episodes early and in video on our Substack! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Okay, there you go.
You've got a fright too.
Welcome to the podcast. We've just given ourselves a big fright.
There isn't even a bigger fright. I did not see that coming.
It's crazy how the frights that we give each other and the way that you can give someone a fright which is just going
BLUH!
Yeah
Is uh, is that scary? It's just a shock.
It's not a fright like you're not actually scared.
Scary I think you need to sort of have a think about something and you're like
Oh I don't like that but a shock is just like your body's gonna respond.
I've been doing that at the start of my stand-up show I did that to someone in the audience. Really? Yeah. Freak him out in the front
row. Yeah. Did you do it into the mic or do you kind of like lean in over to someone? It's sort of like
I'm talking about, I don't know if I'll do it when I did the actual show, but I
talk about, whenever I have to do a new stand up show I get unbelievably
jealous of musicians because they can just play the songs that people already know and everyone loves it, you know
Actually if they play the songs that you don't know, yeah people get kind of annoyed
but in comedy you can't just play the jokes people know because a
Comedy you need to have they want the new stuff. You need to have a surprise. It's interesting
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting
you say that because I've been actually filming a few comedians have been coming
to New Zealand recently filming their shows and there's a bit of a thing now
where people go now I'm gonna do the joke from my viral video like they sort
of give you a heads up and then they do it and everyone seems sweet with it like
I guess they came because they saw that joke online
It's like hey heads up. You're gonna know this one, but it's one of the greats
So it kind of is turning into music now. No, that's bad
Oh without knowing you without knowing who the comedians or the audience are that's bad. I think you I think you're old
I think this is a I think some of those comedians are probably older than me
Yeah, they are and they're more desperate to hold on to whatever people they already have. I think it's pathetic and embarrassing
Good Lord
Well, right. I'm gonna wait a skin a cat. Yeah, and there's more than one joke to write
Yeah, I think it also it's an American thing, right?
Cuz um, and they they are the fucking problem the, in stand up, you know,
they've got a thing where traditionally,
they would develop a 10 minute set for years.
And that would be their road set.
They would go on to shows and you know,
that would be their material.
And that would be your fucking electric set.
And so in Britain and here, in Australia,
we're more like festival oriented, where you go to constantly
be coming up with lots of stuff.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
And so now the Americans are all confused.
Well, they've got kind of they've combined online stardom of TikTok and Instagram reels
with this old style of I've got a home one seat you miss you missed a period where I
think when when people started releasing
material before like reels and virality existed and even when but YouTube
popularity existed but not pure.
Where are the orts the light orts?
Uh, I'm not sure when exactly, but there was still a mutual understanding between
comedians and I would say audiences that once anything is filmed, released on TV,
yeah, a streamer, YouTube, whatever,
the material would be considered burned.
Yeah.
And so...
I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure.
I think people are more willing to see live what they saw on the screen.
I think maybe, but I do think...
And look, I can understand how it's happening, but I do think...
You think it's bad?
Selling tickets on the back of a joke that does well.
And then like the, one of the showpiece features
of your material that you're performing being the same joke
which is, I think, no, I think
look, I'd never do it.
Let's be clear.
I'd never do it myself, but you know,
fun to have a talk about it, man.
I'm fucking literally, you are now old man.
Yells at cloud and the cloud is the cloud.
I am not yelling at the cloud. I'm not an old man. now I'll let it go and say it's very nice to see I am
Defending my honor. We've been away from each other for an extended period because the aforementioned art form
Comedy of which you've been doing quite a lot. I've been doing on these shores of Alt shores of Aotearoa. I know. I'm gonna go away
in four days. Yeah. For a month. How are you feeling about that? Oh I'm excited.
Oh there's a you know there's a lot of feelings. I'm excited to. You've got a good palette today.
Purple. Thank you. You got a purple hat. Purple Ralph Lauren. No, what is it called? Yeah. Polo hat. And you've got a
Dare I say magenta?
Colored. You can say that. It's a magenta colored hoodie. It looks comfy and with a touch of regality about it.
Wow, you don't hear the word regality so close to hoodie very often. Don't know if it's a real word.
Regal purple.
I like regality.
Look, yeah, thanks, man.
You've got a lovely, we've got complimentary palettes on.
You've got a Big Top Burgers.
Did you get sent that?
No, I bought it.
I'm wearing my Big Top Burgers top.
I voiced one of the characters in my t-shirt.
This color actually looks terrible on me.
It makes me look washed out
But it's the only merch I own from the show
You're too hard on yourself. So how's it been?
Hey, we've I think we've both been in the same boat because you messaged the other day and said you had a bit of a funny tummy
I hope I'm not outing you for that. I too have been suffering a funny tummy recently. Oh, dude
I think it's going around it ran through me though. I will say this it was only about 24 hours worth of action
But Jesus Christ. I'm on about our 36th of it. You still got it? I think so. I think I got it in Welly though. I would have loved that information before I came to your house. I'm on the up. I'm on the up. I did not enjoy my experience.
I know it really gave me gratitude for my power, my ordinarily quite powerful immune system,
because, you know, I did not.
Did it really knock you out? Was it a full body kind of a thing?
I had fevers.
Oh, I don't think I had any of that.
I had a fever. I had fatigue. I did a COVID test. I was just like anything I ate. I just
stopped eating. Everything I ate just turned into fluid that ran through my body right but out the wrong part
You know not the it was not coming out of the fluid orifice. I got you. I read you 10-4 there good buddy
Hey, you get that at home
Everyone playing along to understand what I'm saying. I was pissing shit. But you're feeling a lot better now?
Shitting piss.
I was not pissing.
Potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Oh, elephants jeal.
Yeah, I'm on the up.
I'm feeling good.
I am sort of grateful that I was sick when I was.
You know, it was a time when I could allow for being sick.
It's a funny thing to go, I'll get that out of the way.
You didn't need to get sick, but maybe you did.
Cause maybe it was exhaustion.
Yeah.
So maybe your body was giving you the hard shutdown.
What were you doing in Wellington?
I was going to a friend's dad's 70th birthday party.
Good friend, I'm assuming.
Yeah, it was Nick.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
Friend of the podcast, not been on the podcast.
No, we should get Nick on the podcast. We should absolutely get Nick on them. You should just call them right now
He's at work. He'll be working hard. That's fine. Actually does work from home a little bit
So yeah, maybe give him a bell we've we've mentioned that we should get Nick and Jono on yeah
They'd be good. Yeah, we should have a Nick and Jono episode
We should we should do that thing
It was like an old prank phone type thing where you could call up
If you had two phones, you'd call up one person
Yeah on one phone you'd call up another person on the other phone and time it so they'd pick up at the same time
There was sort of a famous uh prank or a series of prank calls, but they would do it to two chinese restaurants. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I have seen that. And it would go pretty good.
That's funny.
It would hurt.
That's an old sort of OG prank.
That's a nice child.
That's a nice prank.
Yeah, it's a nice prank.
I think you would, because what you would do is you would ring,
they would ring one restaurant and make the order and then they'd say,
can you read that back to me?
And they timed that perfectly with the next call coming through.
And I'll tell you what everybody, it was pandemonium from there on in.
Hey, I was on the internet yesterday.
How was that?
At his moments, a couple of things.
I went on YouTube and I just felt an overwhelming urge.
This is sort of later at night.
I had to, I had to revisit some of our work.
And not even our work, I suppose, our muses, our inspiration.
And I wound up watching, I'd say, four minutes
of Sex and the City 2.
You taped this and sent it to me.
And I was so confused.
You sent me this scene where I think they first, the very first, the four gals dolled up and merge onto the sands of Abidabi.
It's when they're about to, yeah, it's when they like do the outfit reveal. It's
basically I wanted to hear the sort of... The Middle Eastern remix of the Sex and the City
overture
Yeah, that's I mean I couldn't have said it any better myself
I was dying to see it. I was dying to see their goofy fucking outfits while they come parading over the sand dunes
I forgot that Kim control like kneels to a like a camel or something on the way through and it was just
Making me laugh. I was just pissing myself and I was like, you know, it was just like a
fucking, you know, heroin shot of
nostalgia, memories and like what we used to do to ourselves.
Yeah, and I was just laughing at the scene independent of us watching it
and then I was laughing even harder at the scene relative to like the power it used to hold over me.
I was like, it was like, you know,
I was laughing at the power that that used to have over me
and the way that it could just reduce me
to a puddle of myself.
And I was sort of laughing at the void almost.
Now, how much of that do you think was the duration?
Cause when you sent of the film,
cause when you sent me that clip,
I was wrapping up filming last night. So I was packing up my gear and I saw that message review I looked at it
like what are you watching the whole thing like what the fuck is happening
here and then and then I watched it again because I can watch it with sound
on I watched it again and got your liked commentary on it when I was in the uber
coming home and um the sound of it really made my heart sink. It did trigger that heavy psychological reaction to just go like, oof.
And it's the duration, I think.
Of the film.
Yeah, that's what the-
Well, do you know-
Because it reminded me of when I used to have to figure out where the fuck two and a half
weeks was going to- two and a half hours was gonna, two and a half hours was gonna come from before the record,
you know, to watch the whole movie.
And it reminded me of us being apart
and having to watch that movie solo so many times
and like cutting it in half
because I'd start watching it at 10 o'clock at night
and then I'd just get too sleepy and have to wake up.
What inspired it was I was on Letterboxx,
like looking for something to watch
and someone watched it recently. Like someone on my, it showed up on my Letterboxx. And I was on letterbox like looking for something to watch and someone watched it recently like someone on my
So it showed up on my letterbox and I was like fuck
I wonder what people say about this movie we should shout them out by the way if you can figure out who that is
It was Nick Naney who's a very funny New York based comedian and he's a he's a cinephile and he watched it
And his review was and I don't understand this post credit sequence
Post credit scene of skipper putting on the infinity gauntlet was great, which is you know
This is like cinephile level joke. I don't understand the the bits and pieces
But then I it was like I had to start clicking through all of the other I was like, what are other people saying?
About this movie. So then I clicked on reviews.
Uh, funniest one at the very top.
Mr.
Big buys Carrie Bradshaw TV, which prompts her and the girls to tour the
middle East and be racist.
Accurate.
Absolutely accurate.
Good Lord.
What's happening now with the franchise?
Are they coming back with another and just like that?
And they're not too distant?
And we're covering it.
You bet your sweet bit.
Dude, and this is what's crazy about this fucking franchise
and how I feel about it.
It was like, that's something, and you know, we covered it in the second season just like that. It's something I'm
Pumped. Yeah, but they've jitter and so I know we've cut of jettisoned Shay Shay's gone. Yeah, they're out
They're out and it sucks for us because Shay was a point of no
Magnetic attraction if not for like loving the character just generating a great conversation around how we feel about the character of Shay
I've still got it. And I think it is cowardly to jettison that character
I also think it will not serve their best interest as a show because I think people would tune in right now
Dude totally and and their comedy concerts
That's right. Standing eh?
Everyone stands.
It's not unheard of, but it's hard and it's bizarre.
Yeah, but I mean that's something I'm excited for.
But anyway, that was part of my, I had a really nice little,
you know when you're busy and you think there's no time to just,
I guess, melt down your brain.
Yeah.
And I had a nice little sort of half hour melt.
And that was part of it.
And another part of it though,
was I found a semi recent profile
on Patrick Schwarzenegger in the New York Times.
This guy is crossing over.
Yeah, dude.
He's breaking through from just being
the son of a famous person to, you know,
and also by way of sort of nepo baby media coverage but now
I'm fearful about the prophecy man.
Crossing further through into like just being a figure of pop culture fascination and one
of the most common refrains through the profile was everyone talking about what an amazing
guy he is on set.
What a positive presence. That's so great. What a lovely guy he is on set. What a positive presence.
That's so great.
What a lovely guy he was.
He was like a cheerleader for everyone.
This is Mike White, creator and writer of White List.
Like Parker Posey, who plays his mom.
Everyone was just like, this guy was good vibes.
Zoe's watching it, the season at the moment.
I have not jumped in the pool yet.
Yeah, is she enjoying it?
She's loving it.
Yeah, I am.
I'm watching Severance. I've not seen that in there yeah he's not but that's okay you're
gonna get a tattoo of Adam Scott no I'm good but it's a fight it's a good show
it's a good show that one get those are two of the ones that people talk about
the big shows today guy people aren't watching sex in the city anymore they're
watching Severance and they're watching the White Lotus season three?
Yep, that's right.
But do you have, do you, yeah, do you have the fear
that Paddy's getting a little close to the sun
and those wax wings are gonna melt
and our tattoos are gonna become bad?
No, no.
Or are you buoyed by all this positivity around?
I'm excited for him.
I, you know, like, it's just funny to feel this
kinship and connection to a the like you know put political and Hollywood royalty
yes to have this obscure reason to have a tattoo of him when like he's going
through what I don't you know God knows the ebbs and flows of a career in show
business yeah this might be it This could be the start of something enormous.
This could be the start of something enormous.
And if this was it, it's great.
It's a great peak.
To think that on this iteration of,
you know, like to think that on this,
you know, if we put all of the repeated movie watching aside,
to think that on this iteration of our journey
of just hanging out and talking together,
we were in direct, we were relaying our direct communication with this guy,
asking him what like 20,000 US dollars to promote his moshpahs on a, I'm just
fascinated by being in such close orbit to this sort of like this, what was a
sort of semi obscure figure of cultural fascination is someone who's being pushed closer and closer to like the
You know the telescope of the public eye
It is amazing that my brain did not retain that information that we were trying to shake him down and I I you know
And as I said, I think last time we talked about it the ball is in his court
Like I is that true because I message from you I think no because I deleted Twitter yeah I know but then it's
that is the balls in his court and then I see them as I'm initiating a football
game and then you start playing and then you run away. And then you go, well, it's up to them to find me
and we'll find another stadium.
This is an imperfect analogy.
The further I've got into it,
but you've got no point.
I understand that you don't totally agree with my techniques.
Yeah.
But all of this to say that our word today,
provided by Random Word Generator is...
Save.
Well. It's no other save. I mean save in football you have a goalkeeper that's a save. Yeah. Speaking of sports guy you
know the aforementioned sports betting syndicate of which I'm a part. Which
brings me much joy in my life. This is me and 10 high school friends, mainly my mates from high school, a couple of
other lovely friends as well, have joined along the way. And we do seasons of
sports betting. Every week it turns to someone else's turn to take a bet. The
season overall has not been going well, except if your name is Tim Batt, because
I have been absolutely
smoking it I am in a position to make history within the syndicate of doing a
clean sweep three successful bets I've had two successful multis and I've
selected this week is my betting week another multi what what what sports are
you gambling on? NBA, NRL and Union, Provincial. Do you know anything about any of these sports?
Absolutely not. Does it drive everyone crazy that their best get like does it not? It's working,
no one's got a leg to stand on to be mad at me. Of course I know but does it not like it just
amplifies and advertises what a raw sports betting is? In a way but I am winning with
odds that are far,
you know, lower,
at least likely to pull off than the bets they're making.
Exactly.
My brain is untainted by knowledge or
attachment to a team.
This is what I'm saying.
This would, this would like, and you know,
that we share the spoils.
I'm not in the syndicate, but I'm speaking for the syndicate.
So that's a celebration. That's fine.
But as someone who like, there must be obsessives in the group who like follow these words with you know
Like who I consume they've got favorite teams
I believe the level of conversation that happens in the discord is
Obviously far above my head, but it seems to be very high level and astute in detail and then you're like these guys
This this this this this guy
And detailed. And then you're like, these guys...
This, this, this, this, this, go.
So do you know who you've bet on?
You don't need to say.
Yeah, I do, but I don't want to date when this is being recorded, so I won't say.
Team versus team.
And you've chosen...
Often times you've chosen the more likely team to win, and then once or twice you've chosen an upset.
No, they're all favourites.
But this is how you win with a multi.
You stack them, stack a bunch of favourites together is how you win with a multi. You stack them. Stack a bunch of favorites together. Suddenly you got a 350.
You're speaking dangerously because you're talking like a guy
who now thinks he's good at gambling.
Instead of a guy who has consecutively been lucky.
I'm not saying I'm good at gambling.
However, the record does show that I am good at gambling.
No. It shows that you...
If we track the record back across every bet you've made.
Now this would have been a good episode to get neck
Perspective on this actually quite here is how you this is not how you make money. This is how you save money
Don't bet on sports. Oh a hundred percent, but we're less. It's small already know the outcome
It's small money match fixing spot fixing and I tell you what guy in terms of
Return on investment for some friends getting to banter. Yeah, you know connect over something. That's what you're in
That's what you're investing in isn't it is essentially like a board game night where everyone's bought $30 with the chippies
That's kind of that's what I would say. It's not just two. It's not about trying to get, you know, we don't care about the,
there's small bits. Yeah. But what's important is the discussion and that I'm
doing very well. Do you think, and we don't need to arbitrarily bend our
conversation along the traditional sort of archaic gender stereotypes, but I get
the feeling that the threads
or the group chats that are just amongst, you know, woman.
Yes.
Very rarely do they require financial outlay
and, you know, a third party experience.
Well, like, you know.
Yeah, I think that's right.
Well, this is the classic thing.
They're just trading emotional or like, they know, yeah, I think that's right. Well, this is trading emotional or like they're trading information about life
And and and once again in a stereotypical sort of fashion, but this is true among my friends
You know the boys you give us a ball in a park and we see the women don't need that
They don't need any accoutrement whatsoever. The boy a lovely sit somewhere the funny thing about the ball is it does
it opens men up in a way that
You know
Woman, they don't need the ball. The ball is the ball is the trick. The ball is a trick
Yeah to me what's a vehicle to men being vulnerable with each other
It doesn't need to be a trick. It could be a tool. It's a trick. Yeah
It could be a tool. It's a trick.
Yeah.
How does that relate to save?
Well, I was suggesting you save your money.
Oh yeah, true.
That's very nice.
But to save, I don't know man, like-
Save face?
Yeah.
It's a saying I'm kind of fond of.
To save face.
Well, it means that you're like,
you're reducing a humiliation.
Yeah.
I always think of, for some reason,
when I hear the, is it an idiom if it's only two words?
Save face. No.
Idioms can be longer than two words.
But can it be an idiom if it is only two words?
Oh. Like is save face an idiom? To save face, yeah, that it be an idiom if it is only two words? Oh like is save face an idiom?
To save face yeah that would be an idiom. For some reason I always think of Chinese culture
and I don't know why but I think someone told me you know I was hearing someone authoritative
once talking about how important that is. I was talking to a guy last night I won't say his name
but he might not care but I don't know but he like set up a bunch of comedy clubs in China back in the day and then got like
legally chased out of the country later when Xi Jinping got in charge and was telling me all
about the cultural differences between living in China back in the, I think like the 2010s.
He said it was the most amazing experience and it was just a whole country was popping off and it was incredible.
And as a comedian, he was just having the most sensational time.
And then he opened up comedy clubs around the country and then got shut down, chased out of there.
This is an American guy?
No, he lives in Melbourne.
I think I know who it is.
Yeah, yeah, I reckon you probably do.
Interesting cat was a an interesting story
It's quite amazing and he kind of blew he blew up in China. He got massive
That's a through YouTube videos
Because they were doing sketches and like half English half Mandarin
Yeah, and they were just getting shared everywhere and he became like a bit of a comedy superstar and then he got run out of the country
Is that amazing yeah, I love shit like that cuz I'm like man you live in a life
Right there you're going to China. Yeah becoming famous
Starting businesses getting booted from the country. That's incredible. Does the idea of starting businesses appeal to you?
It's not that but it's just they're like it's more than getting kicked out from the country. That's incredible. Does the idea of starting businesses appeal to you? It's not that but it's just they're like
It's more than getting kicked out of the country. They've done something to
Get on the radar of the powers that be yeah, you're doing something. It's exciting. You're doing things
It's electric. You think you've ever done anything that could get you kicked out of a country
I mean yes and not like, you know, yes and no like you know yes and no no ultimately what's the yes which
is like I guess taking drugs yeah drugs in America isn't it so it always boils
down to yeah I mean you know not in any country but if you do drugs in a country
by rights you're risking the right for them to be like absolutely not on our
turf mate you're out and if you do them in the wrong
country what made me nervous about our recent trip to Las Vegas Nevada where I
accidentally traveled trafficked yeah I don't know what the legal definition of
traffic did and I traveled with this is a comedy podcast by the way I probably
this is a joke what I'm saying is a joke. Yeah. And it didn't
really happen. But we went to Nevada and I realized that I had acid in my wallet when
I got to the hotel. I was like, if they figured that out at the airport, I could have easily
been sort of banned from re-entering the country, I think, because they get quite prickly about
bringing shit in. I wouldn't get shot like in the Philippines or something,
but they might ban me, right?
I don't know what they'd do.
So, you know, I always like to think they go,
old school dad, and they'd sit you down in a room
and say, you're gonna take all this acid.
I'm gonna sit here with you
until you finish all your acid.
Could you imagine anything worse than being locked
in a fucking room with border security
while you're just slowly waiting
for like too much acid to kick in?
There is a seventh circle of hell.
That's a good, there's a short film.
You gotta write it.
It's so good.
Oh man.
Just a guy traveling into America
accidentally has like two tabs of acid
He forgot about it's kind of security punish you that way or or he freaks out
He knows it's on him
And he has to take it he has to ingest it before they find it
And then he's just kind of locked on a room getting interrogated while he's getting higher and higher that kind of but that
That's um, what's that? There's super troopers. Doesn't it? That's the start of super troopers.
The start of super troopers is like the funniest movie could ever start.
The guy they're in the car, they're in the car and they're driving over the
border and they're all those drugs and they make the guy in the back take like
heaps of them and then they're getting pulled over and the officers are kind of
fucking, you know, they're like pranking them anyway yeah before they get to the car the guy in the front's
like you need to take all these shrooms and the guy eats all these shrooms
I can't even retell it because it's making me laugh so much oh my god we should
what once we've I mean you know it's a tantalizing tease for the audience but
what about once we finish this episode
I get it off and we can enjoy a genuine belly laugh.
You can do that at home too.
If you've got the internet to get us, you probably can access the first scene of Super Troopers as well.
And that's the God's Honest Truth.
That is the God's Honest Truth.
Broken Lizard, I think, was the product. That was the guys who made that.
What do you mean?
That was the production house.
Yeah, yeah, like the people people the stars of that movie were the
creators of that movie and they ran their own thing called broken lozat they
made some other movies too huh yeah where are they now I don't know
probably still hopefully working mmm you never know what so it's a crazy
industry yeah it is do you reckon you could do Flix, Guy?
You're stars on the rise.
Would you want to parlay that into comedy movies?
Man, they do a comeback.
You could usher in a new era of just like some
comedy comedies.
Cat Williams has bought an old military base
in I think Mississippi maybe.
You want to make a movie with Cat Williams?
And he's turning it into- I want to see Williams? And he's turning it into a movie studio.
This is what he said.
Like Tyler Perry style.
Create an amazing production facility.
Start pumping out.
Yeah, comedy movies got left.
I'm interested to see the output from Cat Williams.
Yeah.
Especially if there's a lot of it.
Cause then you kinda,
I feel like there's less gates between your brain and
the product in a way like, you know
There's a temptation to overcook something and you get more people involved in opinions and things if you're
Like Neil no one could accuse Neil Breen of not putting himself on Neil Breen
I feel connected with what's going on in his little brain because he's kind of doing everything himself working so hard and he has
He's so prolific that it's like if he thinks of something he has to put it on the screen
Yeah, it's like I want that to be the same for cat
I'd be interested to see what that sort of like baking though, isn't it? Because if you
Some of them would say under
You know like if you rush to get the idea out.
Yeah, that's true.
And then if you, but if you take too long.
But I don't know if this is a perfect analogy
because I have no interest in an under baked cake.
And I don't know if anyone does,
but there is something uniquely delicious
about an under baked film.
Do you think it's vulnerable?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's just, you're getting more
of the person's brain, I think.
I know, I feel like I know what brain is thinking
and feeling.
What do you think is threatened by everything?
Like, this system that he's got in his head,
which is a combination of sort of
metaphysical and geopolitical enemy.
He is, do you know what he is?
My understanding is that Alex Jones has changed quite a lot recently, but back in
the day, he just used to have hours long diatribes daily about this sort
of generalized threat that he would describe, which was like a, a brain style combination
of like sort of a geopolitical collective cabal, but there was sort of a metaphysical
Luciferian element to it, where they were sort of, you know, not just evil
worshipping but sort of gaining some sort of power from the nether world.
And I feel like Breen is not as nearly as malicious as Alex Jones, but his threat detection
is cut from a similar cloth, where there's sort of an angels and demons scenario playing out in his head that we see in his films.
Yeah.
And I find that interesting.
Yeah.
Seeing like an unvarnished walk up to paranoia and sort of to a like psychological diagnosable level,
where you're just beyond the cliff of falling off, that's an interesting place to make a film at.
Yeah.
And like, you know-
Like paranoid schizophrenia,
but before it becomes a full blown issue.
It's kind of what makes it so fascinating as well is
obviously he is, his name is sprayed all over the credits.
Like, you know, there's not a huge volume of collaborators,
but there's enough to make it happen.
And that's what makes it really interesting.
Yeah.
Is imagining the others on set
and the different degrees of investment,
the acolytes and the sort of the people
who truly believe in him.
And then, you know, the people who just need
whatever amount of money that he's putting
in their pocket that day. It did occur to me recently that you and I
never did the Neil Breen Masterclass series. It's been it's hard to get your
hands on Breen. You've got to order a DVD and then we've got to order a DVD player
because I don't have anything that could play physical media. He is a man, he is a
confusing man. He is a deeply confusing and fascinating man.
There's a YouTube video here. I got in touch with him. I think I talked about this on the pod. Did he get back in touch with you?
It was um, yeah he did. It was about his most, I think still to this day, his most recent movie. I
wanted to put on a screening of it so I sort of Investigated how much it would cost to put it on and it was a bit too cost prohibitive. Unfortunately, I've found a YouTube video. Yeah
Title soft focus what happened to Neil Breen the description Neil Breen sold out
There I said it Wow
I mean to have engaged with Neil Breen to the point
that you think he's capable of selling out.
I wanna know what's in that video, and more importantly,
I wanna know about the person who made that video.
We got 26,000 subscribers on YouTube.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
That's a lot of people. It's a lot of people.
Gets distorted your number of things.
Cause you see some channels where it's like a million and a half people are
subscribed to this thing, and then you lose sight of the fact that having like
26,000 people subscribed to your conversations about Neil Breen.
A thousand people.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
A thousand people is so many people.
Yeah.
I agree. The internet has dwarfed our relationship or like as fucked up the has melted our relationship to numbers
Yeah, isn't it though? We must save numbers by touching grass
Save numbers is a great campaign like save Ferris. We're just
You've ever listened to Save Ferris. We'll just... You ever listen to Save Ferris?
No.
No band.
They got their title from Ferris Bueller.
Of course.
That's like one of your-
Save Ferris was the campaign where you faked a sickie
and everyone thought he was dying.
Ferris is, that's one of your cultural touchstones.
And isn't it so funny that Matthew Broderick,
who we will not talk about.
Okay.
has got an amazing Wikipedia page.
Who is married to Sarah Jessica Parker.
You know how Wikipedia, there are all of those-
Ill roads sort of connect to the arbitrary decisions we've made around the movie selection
choices.
In Ireland, all roads connect to each other.
That is what some say.
Ill-advised advice can lead to bad situations,
but Matthew Broderick, you know, from nearly age,
connects up with Sarah Jessica Parker.
Another movie which was kind of big in my childhood
was Flight of the Navigator, which Sarah Jessica Parker is in.
I don't know that one.
It's about, actually, Pee Wee Hooman voices,
he's uncredited, Paul Rubens voices the spaceship.
Dang. Is that one of the main characters? Paul Rubens voices the spaceship.
Dang. Is that one of the main characters?
Yeah, it's about a boy named,
the boy's name is Max, I think.
Or maybe the spaceship's name is Max, I can't remember.
It's great, it's fricking great.
From a real late 80s oeuvre of children's movies.
It's good.
Oeuvre.
That means a lot to me.
I like to say that.
Yeah, it's a good word.
Well, I'm gonna save you the hassle of wrapping this up
and saying, let's get out of here.
Nice, another save.
Ding, ding, ding.
We get paid every time.
And Tim and I now are gonna watch
the start of Super Troopers.
And if you wanna sync it up with us,
I'm pushing play on the opening scene now.
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