The Worst Idea Of All Time - Good Times: 28

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

The Good Times boys have been rolling the hard six. Guy has been gambling on some new material in front of the Australian masses while Tim has been conducting an unprecedented sweep in his sports-bett...ing league (and has taking away all the wrong lessons). The continuing gamble of having someone who is tattooed on your body re-enter the public spotlight has the fellas feeling all sorts of ways.Get episodes early and in video on our Substack!  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, there you go. You've got a fright too. Welcome to the podcast. We've just given ourselves a big fright. There isn't even a bigger fright. I did not see that coming. It's crazy how the frights that we give each other and the way that you can give someone a fright which is just going BLUH! Yeah Is uh, is that scary? It's just a shock.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's not a fright like you're not actually scared. Scary I think you need to sort of have a think about something and you're like Oh I don't like that but a shock is just like your body's gonna respond. I've been doing that at the start of my stand-up show I did that to someone in the audience. Really? Yeah. Freak him out in the front row. Yeah. Did you do it into the mic or do you kind of like lean in over to someone? It's sort of like I'm talking about, I don't know if I'll do it when I did the actual show, but I talk about, whenever I have to do a new stand up show I get unbelievably jealous of musicians because they can just play the songs that people already know and everyone loves it, you know
Starting point is 00:01:28 Actually if they play the songs that you don't know, yeah people get kind of annoyed but in comedy you can't just play the jokes people know because a Comedy you need to have they want the new stuff. You need to have a surprise. It's interesting Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting you say that because I've been actually filming a few comedians have been coming to New Zealand recently filming their shows and there's a bit of a thing now where people go now I'm gonna do the joke from my viral video like they sort of give you a heads up and then they do it and everyone seems sweet with it like
Starting point is 00:02:03 I guess they came because they saw that joke online It's like hey heads up. You're gonna know this one, but it's one of the greats So it kind of is turning into music now. No, that's bad Oh without knowing you without knowing who the comedians or the audience are that's bad. I think you I think you're old I think this is a I think some of those comedians are probably older than me Yeah, they are and they're more desperate to hold on to whatever people they already have. I think it's pathetic and embarrassing Good Lord Well, right. I'm gonna wait a skin a cat. Yeah, and there's more than one joke to write
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, I think it also it's an American thing, right? Cuz um, and they they are the fucking problem the, in stand up, you know, they've got a thing where traditionally, they would develop a 10 minute set for years. And that would be their road set. They would go on to shows and you know, that would be their material. And that would be your fucking electric set.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And so in Britain and here, in Australia, we're more like festival oriented, where you go to constantly be coming up with lots of stuff. Yeah, right. Yeah. And so now the Americans are all confused. Well, they've got kind of they've combined online stardom of TikTok and Instagram reels with this old style of I've got a home one seat you miss you missed a period where I
Starting point is 00:03:23 think when when people started releasing material before like reels and virality existed and even when but YouTube popularity existed but not pure. Where are the orts the light orts? Uh, I'm not sure when exactly, but there was still a mutual understanding between comedians and I would say audiences that once anything is filmed, released on TV, yeah, a streamer, YouTube, whatever, the material would be considered burned.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah. And so... I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. I think people are more willing to see live what they saw on the screen. I think maybe, but I do think... And look, I can understand how it's happening, but I do think... You think it's bad? Selling tickets on the back of a joke that does well.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then like the, one of the showpiece features of your material that you're performing being the same joke which is, I think, no, I think look, I'd never do it. Let's be clear. I'd never do it myself, but you know, fun to have a talk about it, man. I'm fucking literally, you are now old man.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yells at cloud and the cloud is the cloud. I am not yelling at the cloud. I'm not an old man. now I'll let it go and say it's very nice to see I am Defending my honor. We've been away from each other for an extended period because the aforementioned art form Comedy of which you've been doing quite a lot. I've been doing on these shores of Alt shores of Aotearoa. I know. I'm gonna go away in four days. Yeah. For a month. How are you feeling about that? Oh I'm excited. Oh there's a you know there's a lot of feelings. I'm excited to. You've got a good palette today. Purple. Thank you. You got a purple hat. Purple Ralph Lauren. No, what is it called? Yeah. Polo hat. And you've got a Dare I say magenta?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Colored. You can say that. It's a magenta colored hoodie. It looks comfy and with a touch of regality about it. Wow, you don't hear the word regality so close to hoodie very often. Don't know if it's a real word. Regal purple. I like regality. Look, yeah, thanks, man. You've got a lovely, we've got complimentary palettes on. You've got a Big Top Burgers. Did you get sent that?
Starting point is 00:05:37 No, I bought it. I'm wearing my Big Top Burgers top. I voiced one of the characters in my t-shirt. This color actually looks terrible on me. It makes me look washed out But it's the only merch I own from the show You're too hard on yourself. So how's it been? Hey, we've I think we've both been in the same boat because you messaged the other day and said you had a bit of a funny tummy
Starting point is 00:05:55 I hope I'm not outing you for that. I too have been suffering a funny tummy recently. Oh, dude I think it's going around it ran through me though. I will say this it was only about 24 hours worth of action But Jesus Christ. I'm on about our 36th of it. You still got it? I think so. I think I got it in Welly though. I would have loved that information before I came to your house. I'm on the up. I'm on the up. I did not enjoy my experience. I know it really gave me gratitude for my power, my ordinarily quite powerful immune system, because, you know, I did not. Did it really knock you out? Was it a full body kind of a thing? I had fevers. Oh, I don't think I had any of that.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I had a fever. I had fatigue. I did a COVID test. I was just like anything I ate. I just stopped eating. Everything I ate just turned into fluid that ran through my body right but out the wrong part You know not the it was not coming out of the fluid orifice. I got you. I read you 10-4 there good buddy Hey, you get that at home Everyone playing along to understand what I'm saying. I was pissing shit. But you're feeling a lot better now? Shitting piss. I was not pissing. Potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Oh, elephants jeal. Yeah, I'm on the up. I'm feeling good. I am sort of grateful that I was sick when I was. You know, it was a time when I could allow for being sick. It's a funny thing to go, I'll get that out of the way. You didn't need to get sick, but maybe you did. Cause maybe it was exhaustion.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. So maybe your body was giving you the hard shutdown. What were you doing in Wellington? I was going to a friend's dad's 70th birthday party. Good friend, I'm assuming. Yeah, it was Nick. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Friend of the podcast, not been on the podcast. No, we should get Nick on the podcast. We should absolutely get Nick on them. You should just call them right now He's at work. He'll be working hard. That's fine. Actually does work from home a little bit So yeah, maybe give him a bell we've we've mentioned that we should get Nick and Jono on yeah They'd be good. Yeah, we should have a Nick and Jono episode We should we should do that thing It was like an old prank phone type thing where you could call up If you had two phones, you'd call up one person
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah on one phone you'd call up another person on the other phone and time it so they'd pick up at the same time There was sort of a famous uh prank or a series of prank calls, but they would do it to two chinese restaurants. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I have seen that. And it would go pretty good. That's funny. It would hurt. That's an old sort of OG prank. That's a nice child. That's a nice prank.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, it's a nice prank. I think you would, because what you would do is you would ring, they would ring one restaurant and make the order and then they'd say, can you read that back to me? And they timed that perfectly with the next call coming through. And I'll tell you what everybody, it was pandemonium from there on in. Hey, I was on the internet yesterday. How was that?
Starting point is 00:08:55 At his moments, a couple of things. I went on YouTube and I just felt an overwhelming urge. This is sort of later at night. I had to, I had to revisit some of our work. And not even our work, I suppose, our muses, our inspiration. And I wound up watching, I'd say, four minutes of Sex and the City 2. You taped this and sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And I was so confused. You sent me this scene where I think they first, the very first, the four gals dolled up and merge onto the sands of Abidabi. It's when they're about to, yeah, it's when they like do the outfit reveal. It's basically I wanted to hear the sort of... The Middle Eastern remix of the Sex and the City overture Yeah, that's I mean I couldn't have said it any better myself I was dying to see it. I was dying to see their goofy fucking outfits while they come parading over the sand dunes I forgot that Kim control like kneels to a like a camel or something on the way through and it was just
Starting point is 00:10:01 Making me laugh. I was just pissing myself and I was like, you know, it was just like a fucking, you know, heroin shot of nostalgia, memories and like what we used to do to ourselves. Yeah, and I was just laughing at the scene independent of us watching it and then I was laughing even harder at the scene relative to like the power it used to hold over me. I was like, it was like, you know, I was laughing at the power that that used to have over me and the way that it could just reduce me
Starting point is 00:10:31 to a puddle of myself. And I was sort of laughing at the void almost. Now, how much of that do you think was the duration? Cause when you sent of the film, cause when you sent me that clip, I was wrapping up filming last night. So I was packing up my gear and I saw that message review I looked at it like what are you watching the whole thing like what the fuck is happening here and then and then I watched it again because I can watch it with sound
Starting point is 00:10:53 on I watched it again and got your liked commentary on it when I was in the uber coming home and um the sound of it really made my heart sink. It did trigger that heavy psychological reaction to just go like, oof. And it's the duration, I think. Of the film. Yeah, that's what the- Well, do you know- Because it reminded me of when I used to have to figure out where the fuck two and a half weeks was going to- two and a half hours was gonna, two and a half hours was gonna come from before the record,
Starting point is 00:11:25 you know, to watch the whole movie. And it reminded me of us being apart and having to watch that movie solo so many times and like cutting it in half because I'd start watching it at 10 o'clock at night and then I'd just get too sleepy and have to wake up. What inspired it was I was on Letterboxx, like looking for something to watch
Starting point is 00:11:42 and someone watched it recently. Like someone on my, it showed up on my Letterboxx. And I was on letterbox like looking for something to watch and someone watched it recently like someone on my So it showed up on my letterbox and I was like fuck I wonder what people say about this movie we should shout them out by the way if you can figure out who that is It was Nick Naney who's a very funny New York based comedian and he's a he's a cinephile and he watched it And his review was and I don't understand this post credit sequence Post credit scene of skipper putting on the infinity gauntlet was great, which is you know This is like cinephile level joke. I don't understand the the bits and pieces But then I it was like I had to start clicking through all of the other I was like, what are other people saying?
Starting point is 00:12:23 About this movie. So then I clicked on reviews. Uh, funniest one at the very top. Mr. Big buys Carrie Bradshaw TV, which prompts her and the girls to tour the middle East and be racist. Accurate. Absolutely accurate. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:12:50 What's happening now with the franchise? Are they coming back with another and just like that? And they're not too distant? And we're covering it. You bet your sweet bit. Dude, and this is what's crazy about this fucking franchise and how I feel about it. It was like, that's something, and you know, we covered it in the second season just like that. It's something I'm
Starting point is 00:13:09 Pumped. Yeah, but they've jitter and so I know we've cut of jettisoned Shay Shay's gone. Yeah, they're out They're out and it sucks for us because Shay was a point of no Magnetic attraction if not for like loving the character just generating a great conversation around how we feel about the character of Shay I've still got it. And I think it is cowardly to jettison that character I also think it will not serve their best interest as a show because I think people would tune in right now Dude totally and and their comedy concerts That's right. Standing eh? Everyone stands.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's not unheard of, but it's hard and it's bizarre. Yeah, but I mean that's something I'm excited for. But anyway, that was part of my, I had a really nice little, you know when you're busy and you think there's no time to just, I guess, melt down your brain. Yeah. And I had a nice little sort of half hour melt. And that was part of it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And another part of it though, was I found a semi recent profile on Patrick Schwarzenegger in the New York Times. This guy is crossing over. Yeah, dude. He's breaking through from just being the son of a famous person to, you know, and also by way of sort of nepo baby media coverage but now
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm fearful about the prophecy man. Crossing further through into like just being a figure of pop culture fascination and one of the most common refrains through the profile was everyone talking about what an amazing guy he is on set. What a positive presence. That's so great. What a lovely guy he is on set. What a positive presence. That's so great. What a lovely guy he was. He was like a cheerleader for everyone.
Starting point is 00:14:49 This is Mike White, creator and writer of White List. Like Parker Posey, who plays his mom. Everyone was just like, this guy was good vibes. Zoe's watching it, the season at the moment. I have not jumped in the pool yet. Yeah, is she enjoying it? She's loving it. Yeah, I am.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm watching Severance. I've not seen that in there yeah he's not but that's okay you're gonna get a tattoo of Adam Scott no I'm good but it's a fight it's a good show it's a good show that one get those are two of the ones that people talk about the big shows today guy people aren't watching sex in the city anymore they're watching Severance and they're watching the White Lotus season three? Yep, that's right. But do you have, do you, yeah, do you have the fear that Paddy's getting a little close to the sun
Starting point is 00:15:33 and those wax wings are gonna melt and our tattoos are gonna become bad? No, no. Or are you buoyed by all this positivity around? I'm excited for him. I, you know, like, it's just funny to feel this kinship and connection to a the like you know put political and Hollywood royalty yes to have this obscure reason to have a tattoo of him when like he's going
Starting point is 00:15:58 through what I don't you know God knows the ebbs and flows of a career in show business yeah this might be it This could be the start of something enormous. This could be the start of something enormous. And if this was it, it's great. It's a great peak. To think that on this iteration of, you know, like to think that on this, you know, if we put all of the repeated movie watching aside,
Starting point is 00:16:19 to think that on this iteration of our journey of just hanging out and talking together, we were in direct, we were relaying our direct communication with this guy, asking him what like 20,000 US dollars to promote his moshpahs on a, I'm just fascinated by being in such close orbit to this sort of like this, what was a sort of semi obscure figure of cultural fascination is someone who's being pushed closer and closer to like the You know the telescope of the public eye It is amazing that my brain did not retain that information that we were trying to shake him down and I I you know
Starting point is 00:16:57 And as I said, I think last time we talked about it the ball is in his court Like I is that true because I message from you I think no because I deleted Twitter yeah I know but then it's that is the balls in his court and then I see them as I'm initiating a football game and then you start playing and then you run away. And then you go, well, it's up to them to find me and we'll find another stadium. This is an imperfect analogy. The further I've got into it, but you've got no point.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I understand that you don't totally agree with my techniques. Yeah. But all of this to say that our word today, provided by Random Word Generator is... Save. Well. It's no other save. I mean save in football you have a goalkeeper that's a save. Yeah. Speaking of sports guy you know the aforementioned sports betting syndicate of which I'm a part. Which brings me much joy in my life. This is me and 10 high school friends, mainly my mates from high school, a couple of
Starting point is 00:18:09 other lovely friends as well, have joined along the way. And we do seasons of sports betting. Every week it turns to someone else's turn to take a bet. The season overall has not been going well, except if your name is Tim Batt, because I have been absolutely smoking it I am in a position to make history within the syndicate of doing a clean sweep three successful bets I've had two successful multis and I've selected this week is my betting week another multi what what what sports are you gambling on? NBA, NRL and Union, Provincial. Do you know anything about any of these sports?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Absolutely not. Does it drive everyone crazy that their best get like does it not? It's working, no one's got a leg to stand on to be mad at me. Of course I know but does it not like it just amplifies and advertises what a raw sports betting is? In a way but I am winning with odds that are far, you know, lower, at least likely to pull off than the bets they're making. Exactly. My brain is untainted by knowledge or
Starting point is 00:19:12 attachment to a team. This is what I'm saying. This would, this would like, and you know, that we share the spoils. I'm not in the syndicate, but I'm speaking for the syndicate. So that's a celebration. That's fine. But as someone who like, there must be obsessives in the group who like follow these words with you know Like who I consume they've got favorite teams
Starting point is 00:19:31 I believe the level of conversation that happens in the discord is Obviously far above my head, but it seems to be very high level and astute in detail and then you're like these guys This this this this this guy And detailed. And then you're like, these guys... This, this, this, this, this, go. So do you know who you've bet on? You don't need to say. Yeah, I do, but I don't want to date when this is being recorded, so I won't say.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Team versus team. And you've chosen... Often times you've chosen the more likely team to win, and then once or twice you've chosen an upset. No, they're all favourites. But this is how you win with a multi. You stack them, stack a bunch of favourites together is how you win with a multi. You stack them. Stack a bunch of favorites together. Suddenly you got a 350. You're speaking dangerously because you're talking like a guy who now thinks he's good at gambling.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Instead of a guy who has consecutively been lucky. I'm not saying I'm good at gambling. However, the record does show that I am good at gambling. No. It shows that you... If we track the record back across every bet you've made. Now this would have been a good episode to get neck Perspective on this actually quite here is how you this is not how you make money. This is how you save money Don't bet on sports. Oh a hundred percent, but we're less. It's small already know the outcome
Starting point is 00:20:44 It's small money match fixing spot fixing and I tell you what guy in terms of Return on investment for some friends getting to banter. Yeah, you know connect over something. That's what you're in That's what you're investing in isn't it is essentially like a board game night where everyone's bought $30 with the chippies That's kind of that's what I would say. It's not just two. It's not about trying to get, you know, we don't care about the, there's small bits. Yeah. But what's important is the discussion and that I'm doing very well. Do you think, and we don't need to arbitrarily bend our conversation along the traditional sort of archaic gender stereotypes, but I get the feeling that the threads
Starting point is 00:21:25 or the group chats that are just amongst, you know, woman. Yes. Very rarely do they require financial outlay and, you know, a third party experience. Well, like, you know. Yeah, I think that's right. Well, this is the classic thing. They're just trading emotional or like, they know, yeah, I think that's right. Well, this is trading emotional or like they're trading information about life
Starting point is 00:21:46 And and and once again in a stereotypical sort of fashion, but this is true among my friends You know the boys you give us a ball in a park and we see the women don't need that They don't need any accoutrement whatsoever. The boy a lovely sit somewhere the funny thing about the ball is it does it opens men up in a way that You know Woman, they don't need the ball. The ball is the ball is the trick. The ball is a trick Yeah to me what's a vehicle to men being vulnerable with each other It doesn't need to be a trick. It could be a tool. It's a trick. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:21 It could be a tool. It's a trick. Yeah. How does that relate to save? Well, I was suggesting you save your money. Oh yeah, true. That's very nice. But to save, I don't know man, like- Save face?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah. It's a saying I'm kind of fond of. To save face. Well, it means that you're like, you're reducing a humiliation. Yeah. I always think of, for some reason, when I hear the, is it an idiom if it's only two words?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Save face. No. Idioms can be longer than two words. But can it be an idiom if it is only two words? Oh. Like is save face an idiom? To save face, yeah, that it be an idiom if it is only two words? Oh like is save face an idiom? To save face yeah that would be an idiom. For some reason I always think of Chinese culture and I don't know why but I think someone told me you know I was hearing someone authoritative once talking about how important that is. I was talking to a guy last night I won't say his name but he might not care but I don't know but he like set up a bunch of comedy clubs in China back in the day and then got like
Starting point is 00:23:28 legally chased out of the country later when Xi Jinping got in charge and was telling me all about the cultural differences between living in China back in the, I think like the 2010s. He said it was the most amazing experience and it was just a whole country was popping off and it was incredible. And as a comedian, he was just having the most sensational time. And then he opened up comedy clubs around the country and then got shut down, chased out of there. This is an American guy? No, he lives in Melbourne. I think I know who it is.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, yeah, I reckon you probably do. Interesting cat was a an interesting story It's quite amazing and he kind of blew he blew up in China. He got massive That's a through YouTube videos Because they were doing sketches and like half English half Mandarin Yeah, and they were just getting shared everywhere and he became like a bit of a comedy superstar and then he got run out of the country Is that amazing yeah, I love shit like that cuz I'm like man you live in a life Right there you're going to China. Yeah becoming famous
Starting point is 00:24:38 Starting businesses getting booted from the country. That's incredible. Does the idea of starting businesses appeal to you? It's not that but it's just they're like it's more than getting kicked out from the country. That's incredible. Does the idea of starting businesses appeal to you? It's not that but it's just they're like It's more than getting kicked out of the country. They've done something to Get on the radar of the powers that be yeah, you're doing something. It's exciting. You're doing things It's electric. You think you've ever done anything that could get you kicked out of a country I mean yes and not like, you know, yes and no like you know yes and no no ultimately what's the yes which is like I guess taking drugs yeah drugs in America isn't it so it always boils down to yeah I mean you know not in any country but if you do drugs in a country
Starting point is 00:25:20 by rights you're risking the right for them to be like absolutely not on our turf mate you're out and if you do them in the wrong country what made me nervous about our recent trip to Las Vegas Nevada where I accidentally traveled trafficked yeah I don't know what the legal definition of traffic did and I traveled with this is a comedy podcast by the way I probably this is a joke what I'm saying is a joke. Yeah. And it didn't really happen. But we went to Nevada and I realized that I had acid in my wallet when I got to the hotel. I was like, if they figured that out at the airport, I could have easily
Starting point is 00:25:56 been sort of banned from re-entering the country, I think, because they get quite prickly about bringing shit in. I wouldn't get shot like in the Philippines or something, but they might ban me, right? I don't know what they'd do. So, you know, I always like to think they go, old school dad, and they'd sit you down in a room and say, you're gonna take all this acid. I'm gonna sit here with you
Starting point is 00:26:19 until you finish all your acid. Could you imagine anything worse than being locked in a fucking room with border security while you're just slowly waiting for like too much acid to kick in? There is a seventh circle of hell. That's a good, there's a short film. You gotta write it.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's so good. Oh man. Just a guy traveling into America accidentally has like two tabs of acid He forgot about it's kind of security punish you that way or or he freaks out He knows it's on him And he has to take it he has to ingest it before they find it And then he's just kind of locked on a room getting interrogated while he's getting higher and higher that kind of but that
Starting point is 00:27:00 That's um, what's that? There's super troopers. Doesn't it? That's the start of super troopers. The start of super troopers is like the funniest movie could ever start. The guy they're in the car, they're in the car and they're driving over the border and they're all those drugs and they make the guy in the back take like heaps of them and then they're getting pulled over and the officers are kind of fucking, you know, they're like pranking them anyway yeah before they get to the car the guy in the front's like you need to take all these shrooms and the guy eats all these shrooms I can't even retell it because it's making me laugh so much oh my god we should
Starting point is 00:27:39 what once we've I mean you know it's a tantalizing tease for the audience but what about once we finish this episode I get it off and we can enjoy a genuine belly laugh. You can do that at home too. If you've got the internet to get us, you probably can access the first scene of Super Troopers as well. And that's the God's Honest Truth. That is the God's Honest Truth. Broken Lizard, I think, was the product. That was the guys who made that.
Starting point is 00:28:02 What do you mean? That was the production house. Yeah, yeah, like the people people the stars of that movie were the creators of that movie and they ran their own thing called broken lozat they made some other movies too huh yeah where are they now I don't know probably still hopefully working mmm you never know what so it's a crazy industry yeah it is do you reckon you could do Flix, Guy? You're stars on the rise.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Would you want to parlay that into comedy movies? Man, they do a comeback. You could usher in a new era of just like some comedy comedies. Cat Williams has bought an old military base in I think Mississippi maybe. You want to make a movie with Cat Williams? And he's turning it into- I want to see Williams? And he's turning it into a movie studio.
Starting point is 00:28:48 This is what he said. Like Tyler Perry style. Create an amazing production facility. Start pumping out. Yeah, comedy movies got left. I'm interested to see the output from Cat Williams. Yeah. Especially if there's a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Cause then you kinda, I feel like there's less gates between your brain and the product in a way like, you know There's a temptation to overcook something and you get more people involved in opinions and things if you're Like Neil no one could accuse Neil Breen of not putting himself on Neil Breen I feel connected with what's going on in his little brain because he's kind of doing everything himself working so hard and he has He's so prolific that it's like if he thinks of something he has to put it on the screen Yeah, it's like I want that to be the same for cat
Starting point is 00:29:35 I'd be interested to see what that sort of like baking though, isn't it? Because if you Some of them would say under You know like if you rush to get the idea out. Yeah, that's true. And then if you, but if you take too long. But I don't know if this is a perfect analogy because I have no interest in an under baked cake. And I don't know if anyone does,
Starting point is 00:29:58 but there is something uniquely delicious about an under baked film. Do you think it's vulnerable? Yeah, yeah. And it's just, you're getting more of the person's brain, I think. I know, I feel like I know what brain is thinking and feeling.
Starting point is 00:30:16 What do you think is threatened by everything? Like, this system that he's got in his head, which is a combination of sort of metaphysical and geopolitical enemy. He is, do you know what he is? My understanding is that Alex Jones has changed quite a lot recently, but back in the day, he just used to have hours long diatribes daily about this sort of generalized threat that he would describe, which was like a, a brain style combination
Starting point is 00:30:54 of like sort of a geopolitical collective cabal, but there was sort of a metaphysical Luciferian element to it, where they were sort of, you know, not just evil worshipping but sort of gaining some sort of power from the nether world. And I feel like Breen is not as nearly as malicious as Alex Jones, but his threat detection is cut from a similar cloth, where there's sort of an angels and demons scenario playing out in his head that we see in his films. Yeah. And I find that interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Seeing like an unvarnished walk up to paranoia and sort of to a like psychological diagnosable level, where you're just beyond the cliff of falling off, that's an interesting place to make a film at. Yeah. And like, you know- Like paranoid schizophrenia, but before it becomes a full blown issue. It's kind of what makes it so fascinating as well is obviously he is, his name is sprayed all over the credits.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like, you know, there's not a huge volume of collaborators, but there's enough to make it happen. And that's what makes it really interesting. Yeah. Is imagining the others on set and the different degrees of investment, the acolytes and the sort of the people who truly believe in him.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And then, you know, the people who just need whatever amount of money that he's putting in their pocket that day. It did occur to me recently that you and I never did the Neil Breen Masterclass series. It's been it's hard to get your hands on Breen. You've got to order a DVD and then we've got to order a DVD player because I don't have anything that could play physical media. He is a man, he is a confusing man. He is a deeply confusing and fascinating man. There's a YouTube video here. I got in touch with him. I think I talked about this on the pod. Did he get back in touch with you?
Starting point is 00:32:54 It was um, yeah he did. It was about his most, I think still to this day, his most recent movie. I wanted to put on a screening of it so I sort of Investigated how much it would cost to put it on and it was a bit too cost prohibitive. Unfortunately, I've found a YouTube video. Yeah Title soft focus what happened to Neil Breen the description Neil Breen sold out There I said it Wow I mean to have engaged with Neil Breen to the point that you think he's capable of selling out. I wanna know what's in that video, and more importantly, I wanna know about the person who made that video.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We got 26,000 subscribers on YouTube. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. Gets distorted your number of things. Cause you see some channels where it's like a million and a half people are subscribed to this thing, and then you lose sight of the fact that having like 26,000 people subscribed to your conversations about Neil Breen.
Starting point is 00:33:59 A thousand people. Yeah. It's a lot. A thousand people is so many people. Yeah. I agree. The internet has dwarfed our relationship or like as fucked up the has melted our relationship to numbers Yeah, isn't it though? We must save numbers by touching grass Save numbers is a great campaign like save Ferris. We're just
Starting point is 00:34:25 You've ever listened to Save Ferris. We'll just... You ever listen to Save Ferris? No. No band. They got their title from Ferris Bueller. Of course. That's like one of your- Save Ferris was the campaign where you faked a sickie and everyone thought he was dying.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Ferris is, that's one of your cultural touchstones. And isn't it so funny that Matthew Broderick, who we will not talk about. Okay. has got an amazing Wikipedia page. Who is married to Sarah Jessica Parker. You know how Wikipedia, there are all of those- Ill roads sort of connect to the arbitrary decisions we've made around the movie selection
Starting point is 00:34:56 choices. In Ireland, all roads connect to each other. That is what some say. Ill-advised advice can lead to bad situations, but Matthew Broderick, you know, from nearly age, connects up with Sarah Jessica Parker. Another movie which was kind of big in my childhood was Flight of the Navigator, which Sarah Jessica Parker is in.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I don't know that one. It's about, actually, Pee Wee Hooman voices, he's uncredited, Paul Rubens voices the spaceship. Dang. Is that one of the main characters? Paul Rubens voices the spaceship. Dang. Is that one of the main characters? Yeah, it's about a boy named, the boy's name is Max, I think. Or maybe the spaceship's name is Max, I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's great, it's fricking great. From a real late 80s oeuvre of children's movies. It's good. Oeuvre. That means a lot to me. I like to say that. Yeah, it's a good word. Well, I'm gonna save you the hassle of wrapping this up
Starting point is 00:35:52 and saying, let's get out of here. Nice, another save. Ding, ding, ding. We get paid every time. And Tim and I now are gonna watch the start of Super Troopers. And if you wanna sync it up with us, I'm pushing play on the opening scene now.
Starting point is 00:36:12 ["Super Troopers Theme"]

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