The Worst Idea Of All Time - Overlooked 3 - 5: Sadness w/ Rose Matafeo and Alice Snedden

Episode Date: January 19, 2021

Rose and Alice join the boiz for their fifth (and first, respective) watch of Rob's special. Rose would like to discuss (and defend) the accent work and Rob's self-doubt which is on clearly display. Rose performs a deep and sympathetic psychoanalysis on Rob's attitudes towards women and sex. When you’re done, why not check out Alice Snedden's Bad News. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

we did it but i will say i think rose was premeditating your numbers tim and coming in very tight no that's what i do on our normal our normal ones because you're always telling me that we're i'm fucking slow hello and welcome along to a very special... Sorry, sorry, sorry. Can you do that again? Can you do that again? I reckon leave that one in. Tim, don't hide your face, man.

This is what it is, okay? Do it again. This is your life's work. Can you believe it? When you die, this is what people will remember you for. Episode 5 of the Rob Schneider Overlooked and Undercooked Asian Mama, Mexican Kids, Once Daily, Once Weekly Comedy Review I'm Guy Montgomery, I'm joined as always by Tim Baird

And we have two very special guests with us today They are the ladies of our boners of our hearts Rose Matafayo and Alice Neddon. Welcome along. How are you both? I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. Awesome. Didn't Guy do a good job on that introduction?

Because I feel like our brains are broken, but it was like the second he got into it, he just, boom. He's a professional broadcaster. Are you watching this special every day, are you? For a week, yeah. For a week? Wow. We've seen it five times you? For a week, yeah. For a week? Wow.

We've seen it five times now. Nice. Oh, wow. Yeah. Jeez, okay, cool. Why? How many times have you guys seen it? Just the once, actually.

Just the once, and barely, to be honest. I mean, I don't know how you want to structure this, but do we just start talking about it because i mean i'm pretty done with it i i i i i have to fully admit i i kind of zoned out more it became almost like um a meditation podcast in a sense how much i was relaxed and zoning out like it did the exact opposite of i think what the intention was was to engage me and instead it calmed me and relaxed me and that it felt like white noise yeah well in fairness to you it's extremely hard to stay concentrated for a full 44 minutes 44 gorgeous

minutes only 39 of those are comedy mind. I reckon 39 is generous. Generous as. So we've got a couple of theories. So I don't know. So I guess all the listeners will be well-versed in this because they probably have watched it as well. So you thought he started quite strong. I agree.

Okay. Well, please don't put words in my mouth, but I did say that. But I only said that after you said about five minutes in it's not bad yet yeah it's not bad yet five minutes in is i would fully stand by that it wasn't bad yet and then almost as if on cue he then went into a line about he did an impression of his wife and then in a mexican accent and then he said she's not mex, but it's fun to do the accent. Yeah. Clarification. Is his wife Mexican?

Yes. Okay. All right. Okay. Interesting. So that was just a joke. Oh my God. It was a joke.

Okay. So let's touch on accents. Shall we? Because Alice... Rob Schneider is not afraid to, and nor should we be. Rob Schneider is not afraid to and nor should we be he has empowered us all if anything to use any accent we want

Alice asked the question I asked was if you're of Asian descent does that mean that you can do any accent from any Asian country what are the rules I was talking to my new flatmate about this because he's a filipino kiwi and uh we sort of didn't answer this question but i was like did you even

know that rob schneider is filipino like is he filipino's forgotten son and he was like no one knows that rob schneider is filipino he has never like claimed his heritage out loud he has never kind of said the word the philippines in any media that he's made like this is a brand new thing for him this would make the the fantastic asian mama mexican kids and if you didn't get the title guys i just want to explain it his mama uh she is asian but his kids well they're mexican how does that work i don't know but uh all i'm saying is if if what ethan just said is true and that he hasn't really uh made reference to his heritage previous to this special this is his coming out party and doesn't he come out and have a lot of fun with his heritage i mean i don't i don't know even really specifically his heritage other asian minority heritage yeah yeah he never does it he never does a filipino kind of apart from his mom

yeah he does his mom he does korean and chinese chinese i feel like to say all of this is to suggest there is a level of nuance in his accent work which i have not detected i'm not drawing huge lines it's like someone it's like an impressionist saying this is george bush hi i'm george bush and then and now i'll do my iconic al gore it's me al gore i will defend i'm not going to defend the reasons why he does the accents yeah i will defend the accents i agree because i honestly do think there actually is nuance in between them yeah and he does the accents but I will defend the accents. I agree. Because I honestly do think there actually is nuance in between them and he does think about those quite

hard. I'm not saying that I agree that he should be doing the accents but in terms of the quality with which he performs them, I'd say those are some of his strengths. Yeah. I mean, doesn't he not? He commits 15 minutes of time in the special to it. I can't get past the idea that this is material that he was cutting up with on the schoolyard.

And he's insulated or coddled or successful enough that he's never had to do anything else, never had to learn anything else. And so it's like he's finally got the special. You're not going to not commit to tape your best material across 50 years of well where do you think well wait how many specials has he done so he was his first one on netflix he had he had like a breakout hbo special apparently in the late 80s early 90s that kind of helped him get snl that launched the rob schneider we know but outside of that i don't think between like say 1990 and now

he's not put out comedy i actually don't think he's been performing comedy i don't think no like he's got the sort of he can't tell he's got the presence or confidence of someone who believes that they can do it but like it's it's not a cohesive presentation yeah i what he has which i i actually like the most about his performance style, is that level of self, like the insecure level of it, where you can see it. And if you do comedy, I think it might be naked to the... Civilian eye.

Civilian eye. But to bore down into his soul you can see these hints of deep sadness and sort of like um going oh my god should i be here like do i deserve this am i is is this material good enough am i losing them and and you can feel that and that is actually the most compelling element of the special. I know you've only seen it once, but can you remember any moments where, like, you really got the sense that Rob was feeling all at sea

and needed to quickly grab a life raft of an Asian locality to send up? Well, no, because I think so much of it was just like, I mean, Americans possess, American comedians particularly, possess this utter confidence in whatever they're saying is important or, I mean, good, or a good enough quality to, you know. And God bless for that. And God bless them. And that's how they've got to today.

And that's why the country's doing so well. Yeah, those darling sweeties. And there were moments of humanity, I think, where he genuinely laughed at something. And it sort of, no, there was like one moment. There was one moment. There is one moment where he sincerely laughs at what's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one is it?

It's the. I've got it written down somewhere. Oh, no, no. It's when he puts the microphone up his top and he makes it look like a boner. And then he goes, oh, that looked awful. Yeah, he does enjoy that. That was the moment of humanity. That was the moment of humanity where he goes, oh, man.

Oh, gross. I think he's visibly hating it. I think it's one of the most joyless performances I've seen. I disagree. I actually think that he was loving it. And I will say this, this though but I do feel like his insecurity got the better of him and there's a clear turning point in the show when he brings out the piano player I think that's a sign that that is a man who has lost his confidence because

it doesn't even feel like that was a pre-planned decision it feels like that's something where he's gone I'm gonna have the piano on stage and if if I need it, just if I need it, I'm not sure we're going to do it, but if I feel that we need it, then let's engage the piano player. I'll have a pianist on standby. Creating a special when you have... You know how Dylan Moran is famous for coming on stage

where he's got a glass of red water and a cup of coffee and a cup of tea? Have you heard that? The red water. Show accoutrement. So the red water and a cup of coffee and a cup of tea. If you had that with just... The red water. Show accoutrement. So like the red water. What did I say? Red water.

Red water. The sweet, sweet red water. Red, red water. This little sweet boy doesn't want to believe anyone's drinking alcohol on stage. Absolutely not. What's that sweet little raspberry drink he's got? He's got that burgundy cordial. Do you know, it's such an odd choice to have red wine on stage, I reckon.

Really? Why? Fuck yeah. He's got a black. Because I don't really like have a sip of red wine and feel like hydrated or ready to go. I have a sip of red wine and i go okay it's time for tv like it's not a performance drink god you've never ever said okay it's time for tv i've never seen you sup on that gorgeous claret and and and announce to the room okay it's time

for tv watch out because it's, it's time for TV. Watch out because it's going to start happening. Let's turn on the boob tube and see what's going on. I love your idea that Rob Schneider is confident in doing this to the point that he can go out there and start without any support but then is also so insecure that he has a pianist on standby, his daughter on standby, a string quartet on standby. And what else do we think Rob Schneider has waiting in the wings? What unused props and sort of escape routes?

Well, that's why the daughter, first of all, was so reluctant to sing with him, because she knew that she was only going to come out if it went bad and he ran short. So that's why she's coming out and she's like, oh, Dad, I'm sorry it didn't work out. I reckon they had Kevin Nealon with a shepherd's crook side of stage. so that's why she's like coming out and she's like oh dad i'm sorry it didn't work out you know i reckon they had um kevin nealon with a shepherd's crook uh side of stage ready to

ready to uh pull him pull off him and his daughter his whole family i think they had um a video from adam sandler of a message wishing him well that they were going to chuck out on a projector if he had anything to do with it if he if adam sandler had provided any materials for that special you you know that they would be in the special yeah adam sandler demanded he pay for the cameo i reckon that i reckon that um rob schneider wanted to do a tribute to chris farley but then he saw adam sandler's one and he was like fuck all right he had to can his at the last minute. Were they tight? Oh, no, it was Spade, right? Spade and he were real tight. He was probably adjacent.

Spade should do a special just so he can die now on that, maybe. Spade should have been there for his friend. I reckon Rob Schneider definitely invited David Spade, and David Spade didn't show up to the record. I thought you meant that David Spade should have been there for Farley, and not let him die. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. No christ no no god bless david spade i think we've got the same birthday actually um but i uh i have a theory about the pianist and that is and that this is my madcap conspiracy

theory right but i think the pianist because i God, that's going to be a nightmare for editing, surely, with the special. So I reckon it was that Rob Schneider knew that he was going to go under, knew that he did not have enough material for an hour-long stand-up special. Running a tight 44, including a fucking song. So 39. song so 39 so he knew that this elongated piece of routine they they they didn't want any cuts to it so he purposely brought on the piano so they couldn't cut around it otherwise it would have been a nightmare for audio continuity that is completely what's happened you're a genius absolutely yeah i can't remember who it was but i remember reading there was a comic who used to do that who like had

musical accompaniment for his specials for that exact reason so his yeah they couldn't edit around it i definitely think that's what's happened i think it's i think it's true i think because it's his weaker portion his weaker portion is the middle 20 minutes at you too which is not on the special but something we figured out so consequentially i read an article about rob schneider's wife and i did the math and it turns out they met when he was 41 and she was 17 okay first of all that's cool and legit. Next question. Is it legit?

Those were my two questions, Alex. Is it legal? Is it cool? And is it legit? Is it legal? It's legal. 16 is the age of consent, isn't it? Oh, then fine. Not in America.

Not in most states. Most states it's 18. Or did he meet her in Mexico or America and are the ages of consent different in each country I'm going to assume It depends what state you're in I think California might be 16 though Is it legal? That's a question mark

Is it legit? Hell yeah my brother 41 and 17 I can't get past it And we want that to be reflected in legislation okay it's legit it's too legit to quit and we need that supported by this podcast becomes a big supporter of lowering the age of consent to 16 just so that rob schneider can can live for the record that will that will be earmarked as the episode that you two appeared on is when we started driving for this change. Alice, you dismissed the second half of the special as the weaker half.

I sort of have it divided into the first half is all of his great accent work and sort of racial observations. And then the second half... Don't forget molesting his mother-in-law. Oh, yeah, that bit was a real highlight. And can I tell you, I genuinely enjoyed that bit because I worried that the punchline of the joke was going to be that it was his daughter.

So from that sense, I was absolutely relieved. Rob Schneider has declared he's not molesting his daughter. Yeah, well, because he'd done a bit previously about his daughter sleeping in his bed so i was like oh no here we go this is gonna be some dark actually this is a pro a positive i drew from the special today is that i really quite i quite admired his physicality of his uh seven-year-old daughter you know yeah arguing her case to to get into their bed because of her nightmare i thought that was a strong bit that was a strong bit. That was a strong bit from Rob

I thought. You guys have got a totally different take. You're giving him a lot of props for different jokes here. Can you maybe walk me through your top three Rob Schneider bits and then one bit that you thought was either just unacceptable or no good. I liked

the dinosaur bit with the kid. This is all relative to the other material in the special, let it be known. This is not ranking it as compared to other comedians and their jokes. I'm purely ranking it as compared to other jokes within the special. What did you say to me?

I think you should compare it to other jokes. I'm not going to do that. The see what happens from the mountain. Agreed, yeah. I think you should compare it to other jokes and other people, you know, I'm not going to do that. Um, the, see what happens from the mountain. Yeah. Great. Yeah.

Do you know why that, do you know why that joke works? I've been thinking about that because the actual, the premise of existence side of his garbage is nothing, but it works because the mic technique is really strong. And also it's like really strong. The bit is reminiscent of what you would see in sort of a rob schneider early 2000s comedy where it's like you can actually visualize it it's quite a cinematic joke it's quite it's quite jackass happy gilmore vibes you know uh in that physicality which is and then

this i did not enjoy the bit but i liked the gall to take on the me too movement underscored by the piano so that they can't they can't change anything he says he says bring the piano out i've got some shit yeah yeah yeah i enjoyed that i was like someone's got to speak to this you know the pig potential bit is so devastating to me because it like there's a level of self-awareness that rob schneider has about what a piece of shit he is which is fine and groovy and cool but it's the fact that he projects it onto the entirety of the male he's like well everyone sucks as much as i do it's like i was with you and now you've got my boy hashtag not all men to bat coming it is honestly so dire though to think that i mean that is how his brain probably works like you're either an ago or a

hottie yeah and that will how he treats you will depend on that well you know what this is though i okay so i think this is a condition of i mean i'd say'd say in my standup, I, I, I feel similar in that it's a contradiction in terms to announce that you're a piece of shit and announce that self-awareness, but then later in the special, the later in a show, then start to say like, just make these hot takes as if anything you say as a piece of shit, it's illogical.

Do you know what I mean? Like to believe that these things are important or true or you're making these universal um uh sort of inarguable statements when really you're if you did it in the reverse order as well that works way better because it's like he's coming out speaking truth to power in a way that only rob schneider can but then slowly like kind of devolves into vulnerability but this is just like i have no credibility and now here's what i think about the world there's some logical inconsistencies in his point of view on the world because his opening bit is about how disinterested he is in sex and then throughout the special he is bemoaning the fact that his wife

won't have sex with him can i speak so i was after this? So I was like, what do you want? Do you want sex or do you not want sex? Because the message is unclear. I think that his idea of what men want and what women want in relationships is, you know, women want relationships, men want sex. Very common kind of, you know, know take especially in comedy and stuff and and it's always this really depressing take of these men who are and i it hasn't clicked to me until today all of these men talk about these women who are don't that there's this idea that women don't

want sex and sex is a nuisance to them and they want other things but i've realized that it's the that no one has ever wanted to have sex with rob schneider and i think that's his experience is that he's never perhaps he's never gone for a woman who really wants to have sex with him so he's constantly in this holding pattern of constantly going for these women who are perhaps unattainable or or um physically or aesthetically are maybe considered um more attractive than him um and more beautiful so he's constantly like you know shooting for the stars and then getting these women who are kind of almost repulsed by him and so his entire idea of like sex his is this warped kind of form of it and what he needs to do is find someone who would be fucking stoked with having sex with rob schneider

but it's because he has been poisoned by the ideals of beauty and the expectations especially particularly in america of what attractiveness is and he'll never be happy and never have like that positive sexual experience so this is such a generous read on what has created rob schneider maybe it's generous maybe it's too generous this is like the the joker level society is the real villain of the rob god yeah maybe i am maybe i'm a men's right no no i think i there was a real melancholy that i saw in that i think your point can be true and rob schneider can still be a piece of shit totally i agree yeah yeah i i i totally agree with the idea that like because it is it does it touches all of his material and his outlook is like it is

it is this binary men yeah love sex he loves titties. He loves, you know, all of that stuff. Except when they're in the way of bloody cookies. Can we also explore the logic of that bit? It's been driving me nuts. He says, I'm at an age now, I couldn't believe this was his opener. I'm at an age now where I'm more interested in cookies than sex. He goes, what's that cookie?

And then he enters some sort of contract with someone where he sex because what's that cookie and then he enters some sort of contract with someone what's that cookie underneath your tit yeah two of the cookies under your tit please thank you where is he getting these cookies who is he talking to wait i have zero idea and i don't think i, in my mind, the cookies were on like a kitchen island bench and a woman was naked in front of them. And he was asking her to move out of the way, but I did not realize that they were like under her breast, which is an enormous pair of breasts in order to fit like a,

Oh, I could probably actually, I could put a cookie under my boobs. I could put one of those ones, you know, the cookie time sells in the boxes for charity. The mini ones. I reckon I'd get a full Afghan under there.

Full, full-size cookie time. I could get a full-size cookie time under my right and then a few little charity ones under my left. Or maybe an aeroplane one, the ones they give you on the plane. Yeah, I could definitely get an aeroplane cookie under my breast under my breast international listeners and afghan is a biscuit in new zealand that i don't think exists anywhere outside of australia it really doesn't it really doesn't that's a legit thing to call it though right isn't that yes because of the i've looked into it afghan hound okay all right sick all right fuck it's always a close call isn't it it is

biscuits and titties it's a strong way to show up to our afghan community alice has come on here championing lowering the age of consent and just throwing around inspired by rob perhaps all sorts of crazy colloquial terms for biscuits and people i will say this about the special it makes me as a mostly gay woman depressed at the thought of having a wife because they just sound awful yeah always they sound so bad i've never watched a special and walked away from it going like can't wait to have a wife that that's what makes me want to be straight or just like pursue that path more within the special when he's trying to paint his wife and indeed all women as these intolerable shrews who just try and trap you in a relationship so that they can suffer through it his wife comes across as somewhat of a

sympathetic character like his wife in his jokes where he's bad mouthing his wife comes across as somewhat of a sympathetic character like his wife in his jokes where he's bad mouthing his wife she's doing so much of the domestic work around the house she's like getting the kids ready for the party providing for the party he is self-aware enough to be like he's on his phone the whole party this is her reason for not wanting to have sex with him which is like she has to articulate a reason instead of saying i don't want to have sex with you because i find you repulsive and this entire relationship is a nightmare for me it's just like it's crazy the way that he sort of he just he sways and falls over both sides of self-awareness where it's like if he could actually leave his body and his

experience of the world and see the version of himself that he's presenting i think he would understand how unlikable he is. But instead, he's inside of it. And so he's presenting all this information as though he's actually a charming cad. He's so close to getting it. And this is what I was trying to articulate before, is that if he stopped short at universalizing

what a piece of shit he is to everyone else, there, that's the special. That's great. that's what you want i'm a fucking massive asshole let me tell you some stories about that that's great i'll watch that for 44 minutes musical interlude but it's when you go the world sucks because everyone's like me it's like they're not you just suck rob i think i think this that he belongs to a very unique uh subset of american comedians of a certain generation which includes rob schneider includes adam sandler includes ray romano it includes so

it's it's what it is it's it's these um intel i'd say intelligent men who are deeply sensitive and i'd say artistic struggling with the fact that they are self-aware at their own unimportance in this universe and their own kind of failures as a human, but they are, they cannot resist the compulsion to fall into the same patterns of, of these, of this material and of the, of that world. And so like, it's like Adam Sandler is a person who will do Don't Mess With The Zohan, but also do like Punch Drunk Love. And it's like he has it in him. He has this awareness and this artistic sensibility within him,

but then he can't resist the compulsion to then do this other thing. It's like a weird Jekyll and Hyde thing. Sandler has an economic imperative. He is providing for a huge number of people who he's brought along to the ride. But Rob Schneider is the same, I think, maybe. No, Rob Schneider's not providing for anyone. A family! Barely.

I think what it's important to understand is that Guy and I figured out that Rob Schneider is not getting paid for his specials on Netflix. He's dropping the special off with a bag of money to an executive that he found to like get it on the platform in the back door but that i respect that kind of because he's a man who is like desperate to have his art seen and like you know like to what lengths like i don't respect it like on the whole but i perhaps respect it more than people who have been given the opportunity to like you know know, I don't know. There's some pathetic aspect of that that I go, fuck man. All right. He needs to get some of those out. Okay. You're calling his art.

He needs to get it out. I understand that. I love where Rose is at. I love this. I want you to imagine watching this material either by Rob Schneider or some nameless comedian of his age at a live show they could have a british accent they could have a new zealand accent they could have an american accent i want you to imagine this material being performed at a show you're on and you're like i haven't seen this person i'm going to engage i'll

watch it i want you to visualize being is our day-to-day experience with all stand-up comedy there is there is barely anything that differentiates rob schneider's material and what he was doing on stage to some of the stand-up comedians that we are literally we are we know well we've known for years we are we would actually go as far to say they're friends or acquaintances. Do you know what I mean? Like, you put yourself in that position. If that wasn't Rob Schneider, that could be any person that you perhaps were chummy with in a green room.

And there's, like, I think that there, I mean, his material is shocking. What are you saying is that we're overwhelmed by bad comedy? Yes. Absolutely. What you're saying is that we're overwhelmed by bad comedy? Yes, absolutely. But can you not control that as you move up through the, as you spend more time and you can kind of curate who you perform with and who you perform around?

Can you not? Oh my God, please think of the lineups that you're on all the time. And you would not endorse every comedian with who you share a lineup with. Yeah. But the percentages are moving towards that yeah sure i i have a very

rose is a comedy auteur i'm not a comedy author i've got i'm i'm a i'm a comedy like uh truther no i have so much well you know this i have so much, well, you know this, I have so much really, and it's a problem, love for pathetic men. True. And a lot of aroha. You have a lot of aroha. For pathetic men, because I think that, because I fundamentally believe women are better than men. So that a pathetic man is the most pathetic you can get. Do you know what I mean?

Do you know what I mean? A pathetic man is so much more tragic than a pathetic woman. Yes, I do believe that. And so it's this utter pity that I think, and especially in stand-up. My heart breaks for male stand-up comedians. When they're failing because they've got everything on their side. When they're failing this hard, you're like, you had everything. And you blew it.

That's why men don't want to recognize their own privilege. Because to admit that you had privilege admits that you had everything going for you. And you still came up short. 100%. It's a scary position to be in can we talk about Elle King and what were your thoughts on it we loved it

we loved it highlight of the show did you like it for the flow of the special did you feel like it made sense I thought it was the flow of the special? Did you feel like it made sense? I thought it was the natural ending, the natural culmination of all of the material we'd heard preceding it, where he hates his wife, he hates his kids, he hates his family, he's ugly, he never gets laid.

So what that means is let's hear a beautiful song from him and his daughter. From an earlier, from a failed marriage, let's hear a beautiful song from him and his daughter from from an earlier from a failed marriage um his grown daughter who still loves him despite it all like i felt like his daughter watching that you know what i mean yeah i thought it was actually a beautiful moment yeah and i wondered how much she got paid and that's a really good question guy and i were um having we chat live as we watch on this like add-on thing and um we were striking it's struck on the point today that you can tell that those two have been through a lot and um the fact that al is only one year younger or maybe less than his current wife who he has two kids with oh really yeah and i feel like you can see that on stage like you can read this relationship and

the heritage and the layers and the interventions and they're like running away and they're coming together there's like there's no one doesn't touch l king yeah and when she's not a lot of physical comfortability or affection between them at all she actually reaches across l to her rob and get the mic and say hello and there's a it's real frosty between those two but then but then al does love her step siblings i think yeah i think she's got a lot of love for them yeah i think al's a decent person i'd say that we can also do what was really really beautiful was i think the oldest daughter's miranda is that right the seven year old she gives rob such a tight hug like she is so proud

of her dad for having done this thing i could really feel i mean listen a lot of people have turned up to see him do this comedy show and they're having a bloody good time recorded moments before like this was recorded while covid19 was impacting the world but moments before that sort of mass gathering was not just like immoral but illegal in the state of utah wow it's it's recorded in utah salt lake city baby the comedy capital the comedy capital the comedy capital they bloody love that he had three wives in utah he's only got no they only like it if you have them simultaneously Alice

huge mistake on my behalf not sequentially, take that fundamentalist Mormons not other Mormons we're going to need to wrap this up I'm so sorry to say is there anything honestly that's totally fine

I would love to get final closing thoughts and ratings. Okay, final thoughts and ratings. Do you want to go first, Alice? Yeah, final thoughts. I reckon, as a rule of thumb, in any comedy bit or special, if you have to tell the audience why a joke is not racist, odds are the joke is racist. So that's just one of my final thoughts.

And a rating, I'm going to give it... I'm going to give it out of 10, I'm going to give it three. Three Rob Schneiders. Thanks, Alice. Counterpoint though before Rose goes what if it isn't racist and it is accurate though?

Hadn't thought about that. Well then we find ourselves in an intellectual pickle. Quite the quandary. Sorry Rose. I am going gonna give it a very generous four out of ten even though i zoned out for most of the special um because i believe that i mean very rarely i think any standard specials are 10 out of 10 and i know that he has sadness, sadness in his heart. That's so true. I feel like it's punching down, you know, do you know what I mean?

On Rob Schneider because he's not. That is the question that we haven't asked this season, but we do on every Overlooked and Undercooked is, are we punching down onto Rob Schneider? So it's amazing that you bring that up. I feel like we're punching down onto Rob schneider this is his space obviously done illegally in times but like he's just putting something out there and and it and it is and some of it's absolutely shit and absolutely like the wrong take on stuff but also look i just don't think

oh i just i think i like rob schneider Imagine being a part of the Rob Schneider cluster. I'll give it half a star out of five again. Tim, yours? So one out of ten. I just want to thank so much our two guests for coming on. It's always so much fun to hang out with Rose and Alice, and we had planned to do it in a more fun way, where us and and we were

going to go do karaoke it was going to be real fun and then lockdown fucked us and it's been robbed away from me um but i've also really enjoyed like the humanity that rose has extended and it it's honestly it's filled my heart with a different perspective on rob and like people of rob's ilk and i think it is it's a very like kindness forward approach yeah that's so nice i will just say though when you have two guests on a show i wouldn't single out one for enjoying what they've brought to the podcast i would try and give compliments that apply to both of them he was about to say something so you just ruined your show

I was just going to support Tim's point it's been a real pleasure having Rose on we have had the conclusion of these we have been recommending alternative comedy specials that people should watch instead of this we actually forgot to on the last couple of episodes Rose you've had a shout out

but Alice I've been really enjoying Alice has got a fantastic show it's available internationally on YouTube. It's called Alice Nen's Bad News. She takes big topics and somehow, can you imagine this? She makes them fun and funny while also being informative. Oh my god, get

fucked. So please check that out. It is fucking sensational. Thank you. It's such a good show. So much for listening. Two more episodes to go uh love to everyone stay safe my advice give up Bye.