The Worst Idea Of All Time - Puppet Horror and The Flogged Horse

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

And Just Like That… the end is oh so near. Mattress Pikelet and SJP have announced that it’s the end of the Sexiverse and at the conclusion of a two-part finale starting next week - that’s it fo...r Carrie and friends. This news has been met with relief from Tim and gentle acceptance from Guy. Meanwhile, the many pots and pans of our show’s chefs are strewn about in this episode too, including: Puppet horror, Steve returns, Brady f*cks, Seema warms, Miranda stalks, Charlotte cleanses, Rock tap-dances and Duncan roots. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. No more. Two episodes left, I think. Here's to you. I'm drinking up spates in your honour, Mattress Pikelet King. Happy to see it. How do you feel about that? The correct call.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Put her down. This fucking horse has been hobbling on a broken leg for probably two and three-quarter seasons and it is fantastic to see them put this little Philly out of its misery Wow You know Show's no good guy
Starting point is 00:02:09 Look What would they say in 30 Rock? Shut it down I haven't seen 30 Rock Shut it down I understand 30 Rock is good Look Sort of the inverse of the show
Starting point is 00:02:22 If you can imagine such a thing I don't think that the show is Good I don't think the show's bad I think the show is the show and while I'll be sad not to see a fresh season on the horizon I think it does feel like the right time
Starting point is 00:02:37 Do you know what as well If people are so goddamn desperate to see more of these adventures You can make your own on AI now That's the beauty of it Wow Just fucking get fan fiction yourself up some more And just like that Just Google up another season of this if you want
Starting point is 00:02:51 And you can add your own little twist and turns I will say it adds credence To the Carrie and Aiden theory That I was sort of positing the metaphor. Yeah. Because as soon as they killed the relationship, they were like, yeah, by the way,
Starting point is 00:03:04 that does represent the show. We are breaking up with you, the viewer. Yeah. And what killed me in this episode and, you know, it's like, okay, Carrie's entitled to do whatever she wants. But it's like, everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:03:21 Carrie, you and this guy, man, there's energy. And she's like, can you fuck off? There's literally no fucking energy. And then finally, runway's clear, you know, the plane's getting waved in. And she's like, oh, yeah, that guy, yeah, the guy that everyone was saying, I want to fuck. Absolutely, I'm going to fuck him. It's like, okay, awesome. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's so flimsy to me to bury the whole relationship with Aiden, with other reasons, of course, but on the back of him being like, so what's going on with this guy? And then she's like, nothing, literally the next episode. Everything feels so disrespectful. The other big bit of news from the outside world of not watching the show is that, and I didn't get the full details, please feel free to Google this as I talk.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Kim Cottrell was offered, apparently a considerable amount of money to be in this season. I assumed to try and rescue the show and she turned it down and is receiving correctly huge accolades for this. I want to congratulate Kim Cottrell
Starting point is 00:04:21 on her decision-making ability, impeccable judgment. And I would say as well, you know considering this is an HBO production that is getting huge numbers on the streaming platforms she probably turned down quite a lot of money to keep her scruples I understand that
Starting point is 00:04:37 this season's premiere was down 7% on season 2's premiere the episode the numbers and season 2 it was yeah down 7% guys a big ratings guy down 7% on season 2 and down 64% on season 1
Starting point is 00:04:55 people aren't like them what they're seeing The the trajectory is not good Can we go through all the pots and pans of this episode Because it's like They've announced the show's ending right And we already knew this season was ending And they just refused to stop introducing New bits and pieces for us to kind of deal with
Starting point is 00:05:15 And it feels fucking irresponsible It was like to reintroduce Steve Who is Steve comes out and fucking I We're right at the start of this episode A balm for our times I'm so happy to see Steve. It was awesome. And you think, here is this like lovely, mild-mannered kind of easy, breezy, you know, spelling, sleazy, mayor of New York's CD kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He's back. This is a momentous occasion. Brady wants to talk to his mom and dad. Brady's back. Everyone's together. Can I tell you something as well? Sam Tricani was sitting in this chair right here an hour ago when I watched the episode in this moment transpired. And two seconds before Brady
Starting point is 00:05:57 See what he said, I said He got someone pregnant And Brady said the words, I got someone pregnant Sam just read, what? That's awesome. I said, I am so in tune with the shot. Yeah, you really are.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So yeah, Brady announces that He's not in a relationship, it's just someone he's been having casual sex with. Steve, honestly, I think, like, to me, to continue with the pots and pans metaphor, he put the Steve pot on the stove and then he just could not.
Starting point is 00:06:25 not find the hob to turn it down because he was like blowing up complete like not just out of proportion for the moment I thought but also out of out of keeping with the character I've met of Steve Steve did blow up I think Miranda when she was leaving him which again but I was like this is this is crazy there's no well again this is back to what you said a few episodes ago where the writers are passing the script around and it's like that game where you draw a bit of the monster and then fold the paper so they can't see what's coming first but Because there's actually a very neat little arc where the reason why Steve is reacting so badly is because this is mirroring exactly what happened with Stephen Miranda's relationship.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But that's never kind of returned to. So we just get this disproportionately angry Steve who initially we're delighted to see. And now we're confused as to why he's so pissed off. But there isn't that connective moment of him going, I'm sorry I overreacted. It's because I was fearful you would fall into this difficult situation I was in. We get none of it. Instead, we can fucking seemer going to Adam's party. but she's paying $900 a month for which is crazy because it is beautiful yeah that was
Starting point is 00:07:31 Cema claiming he's got mum issues but she doesn't that honestly that storyline was one of the sort of more I'd almost argue plausible or like in the world of what has been introduced you know if I'm following along with the tasting menu I'm like yeah it makes sense that you're putting this in front of me because you've been sort of addressing this and talking about this for fucking nine episodes now whereas the like the the the the the Brady getting someone pregnant, okay, we all know Brady fucks. We've been saying it since he was like fucking five. We get it, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Brady fucks, Steve comes in to blow up and then they're like, this guy's septic. We need to keep him out of the room. Yeah. Teeing up Miranda for a storyline where she stalks down, the guy that, the woman's that Brady's been having casual sex with pretends to have a hair appointment and then bails her out for not getting a paternity test for the dad. Yeah. It's so crazy. It's almost fun. It's close to fast, but it's just annoying is what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And the character is annoying. I don't like Miranda. I've not enjoyed Miranda at all. I'm so, I'm sorry. Obviously, we've come to the news late and this record is, you know, four or five days out of step with the release schedule of the show, obviously the announcement. But I'm interested in how the news colored your experience of watching it. because part of me thought, oh, well, surely watching this is going to be nostalgia. I'm going to have roast into glasses. I'm going to be looking upon this show. You're a fucking madman. You're, I don't know what's gotten into you when it comes to this show.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But it's like, you're a man of good taste and judgment most of the time. And just like that has cast some insane spell on you, which I've been lured into at times. Yeah. And I feel like the announcement it was over is broken at. And I'm like, you know what? Everyone, you're right. This does fucking suck. I might do a whip around of like,
Starting point is 00:09:24 because we both have myriad friends who have been following along. People who have fans of the franchise and who have just done it out of pure fan service or curiosity, I'd love to know what's the drop-off? You know, how many people are trudging through these last ones? Because I think you'll see, knowing that it's the very end. Everyone's back in. Yeah, completionists.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like, there's an opportunity to finish this. Yeah, this is a smart business move from their point of view. Like, they're hemorrhaging money. I assume. I don't know how money works when it comes to streaming stuff. I don't know. Neither do I. But if you want to get people back on the boat,
Starting point is 00:09:59 you tell them this boat is struck an iceberg and is sinking. The news had no bearing. That's not how you get people back on a boat. This metaphor hasn't worked at all. The news had no bearing on your experience of watching the episode. It was a relief. It was a relief because there is a...
Starting point is 00:10:16 You Can't Hurt Me vibe. There's like an... And just like that... has an infinite quality to it where you feel like not only have they to bring back to the horse thing they've flogged a dead horse for so long now by all sensible judgment what they did is made an incredible television show in the 90s going into the early 2000s I think and if you had discipline and honor you would accept all your accolades and everyone to wrap it up and it would be this, it's not quite the Sopranos, but it is a culturally significant, universally
Starting point is 00:10:58 lauded bit of television. But instead they go, fucking greedy. They got those doll signs in their eyes and they made two awful movies, which we spent a year watching each. And then they went back to the fucking trough a third time with this show. And then my sense is that what Mattress Park Club was doing is all these pots and pans is he's trying to establish a way to pass it on to the next generation. So I was expecting this whole spin-off as like, Lily.
Starting point is 00:11:22 and rock and rock's here and now Rock's doing tap dancing for no reason why is that in this episode just to stress Charlotte out just to give Charlotte another character yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:11:35 Charlotte's got enough on to be stressed about I mean I do understand the way the winds of popular culture are blowing you know it's it's a safer bet financially and in terms of built an audience to just for these retreads for intellectual property to be
Starting point is 00:11:51 repackaged and distributed This is a problem This is very metaphysical man It's it's philosophical It's metaphysical It's big issue Because now we're in a situation We caught a picture of big this week
Starting point is 00:12:05 By the way Howdy? Up to date? Yeah How's he looking? Shirtless in a park Eyes closed Meditating maybe
Starting point is 00:12:13 Okay Okay Asleep Certainly at his eyes closed What park? Didn't know What country? I think it was in New York.
Starting point is 00:12:24 The country of New York. Yeah. We're living in a time where anything that has a reasonable budget or above is a rehash of an existing intellectual property. The most dominant technology of our time, which has drawn in all of the finances that are swishing around the world trying to find the next best bet is going into artificial intelligence. The only product that seems exciting about AI
Starting point is 00:12:51 in this current moment is generative AI. Generative AI is nothing but a rehash of old material spat back out in a slightly angled way to whatever your prompt is. There is a naval gazing, inward focused, nostalgia-loving, fearfulness of the future, which this show represents
Starting point is 00:13:14 that is completely toxic for the human species. it is it is poisoning us in our minds it is taking away from our lust for the future that we once held in the 60s JFK said we will put a man on the moon and we will do in this decade
Starting point is 00:13:34 and he said it like that and he said and we will do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard and then someone shot JFK in the head and he died and they went to the moon anyway and they did do it in that decade nothing like that's going on now Now we're just thinking about the 60s and the 70s.
Starting point is 00:13:51 There's no future focus. Everything's a retread. This show sucks. I was fearful it would go on forever. Perhaps it will in some AI sense. I have a moment of relief that they've announced that this version of it's dead. You paint a very grim picture because the only respite that you have outlined in the very coherent sort of thesis you put forward is purely the relief that this show will soon no longer exist. in any new capacity.
Starting point is 00:14:20 We need new ideas. We need new ways of thinking. They're not going to come from Carrie Bradshaw. You understand what I'm saying? Miranda Hobbs can't help me now. Charlotte, and weirdly, I have massively gravitated towards Charlotte in this season. But that's neither here nor there, because Charlotte also cannot help me figure out
Starting point is 00:14:41 how we're going to fight climate change. Do you understand what I'm saying? Climate change doesn't exist in the world of this show. this show is meant to keep your eye off climate change well yes exactly and that isn't that the problem isn't that the whole issue it's sort of it's like
Starting point is 00:14:58 it's spending too long on your phone isn't it the idea is good you know the visualization of it is that you will do this thing and at the end of it you will feel good in some way you will feel enlivened or refreshed that you took a moment out of the reality of your life
Starting point is 00:15:15 to sort of do something that's just for you and then at the end of it you think fuck did I just spend 45 minutes doing that I just lost 45 minutes doing that and I don't think I feel better for it so I would say the metaphor for that
Starting point is 00:15:32 is this show existing as sort of being on your phone and the allure is like look at all the money we'll make because people love this franchise so much we all need to be Kim Cottrell in this current moment we all need to be clear-eyed
Starting point is 00:15:45 brave, turn our nose up at the sort of sugar hit of a financial reward and see the bigger picture here. The thing we're dealing with is dog shit. We need to go a different direction. Kim Ketrell, you're a hero, you're a saint, you're a visionary. You're who we all need to be. Hopefully yes, we, Kim Kattrell. It's incredible to think that of everyone's sort of legacy or standing in the eyes of popular culture you know through the three seasons of end just like that existing.
Starting point is 00:16:18 The person who stands to and seemingly has gained the most is the one who said, I'm out, who just stood on the sidelines and didn't touch it. And then's jazz, baby. She loved to scat
Starting point is 00:16:29 and sometimes it's the shows you don't take. That's what makes your career. You know what I mean? Yeah. Samantha Jones stands tall. I mean, they also did a good job of killing off. you know my hopes for that Michelle Obama cameo
Starting point is 00:16:45 oh yeah you think that's completely off the table now I genuinely think that took it off the table this episode because obviously Lisa Tom Wexley got kind of she got a bit of the fucking old treatment in this episode she did I put it through the ringer she'd been like pootling along you know I suppose
Starting point is 00:17:04 with a somewhat favourable storyline and piece of casting and then all of a sudden they're like nut you're going to snap you're going to also where's marian the whole i forgive me but the whole point of her this is all leading up to her and marian something happening he's not even in this episode no marian no hot editor marian no joy for some reason rock is tap dancing anthony and joseppe get a big look at i mean we've got to get into that storyline justissippi storyline is just he's fucking crazy story like I mean it's like again
Starting point is 00:17:38 it's just it's fun did you laugh it's pretty psych I don't know I just don't feel like I'm in safe hands with it and it was psychologically quite dangerous to see Anthony and Giuseppe like
Starting point is 00:17:52 you know cut too they're going at it they're hooking up shirts are off they're in bed there's like genuine intimacy taking place and you think fucking we haven't seen this all season I don't think I'm like that's great I've seen Miranda have sex I think.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah, not sex more broadly but these characters it's like, yeah, that's right. They fuck and you think that's right,
Starting point is 00:18:12 they do fuck and then there's a fireman shows up. The mother storyline's been completely abandoned by the way but if she's gone which is crazy because a whole big bit
Starting point is 00:18:22 of her arc is that she was extending her time in New York City we all were sort of led to believe to continuously antagonize Anthony but she's just gone she pulled a knife on him he's evaporated
Starting point is 00:18:34 she did pull it She threw a knife at him. Now she's not there anymore. Yeah. But anyway, they're at Anthony's, and then there's been a gas leak or something, and they've got to go. And so they go to Giuseppe's,
Starting point is 00:18:46 and they're sort of, they're sort of, no, they've finished, they've had sex. So we are led to believe, you know, they don't show us the particulars, but we match to guys chagrin.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You know, if I was a lesser man. Yeah, I would assume that they've completed in whatever form. And they're lying in bed, sort of prone. They've got their shirts off. And Giuseppe's flatmate comes in, who's an old guy carrying like a marionette-style puppet, which is a pretty striking likeness of Giuseppe. It was an awesome entrance, I will say that, to just have an absolutely fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I don't know. Now we're in the swing of all the pots and pans. It's kind of like, now I check this shit out. This guy is probably 60 years old and looks like he hasn't had a shower in three years. And he is a very talented. and dedicated puppet master. And so he's made this puppet. And Anthony does a classic so-and-so more like fucking Geppetto.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You know, just, you know, this guy's an old puppeteer. His name's Andrew. We can silo off this storyline, basically, because that happens. And then the next time we see them in my memory, Anthony's talking about, do you want to move it? Like, maybe we should move in. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Because he's so freaked out by puppet master, Andrew. And Giuseba keeps telling him, the guy's asexual. He's, like, you don't need to worry about feeling three. written by him. He's not attracted to me. He's asexual. He says it many, many times. But then the coda to this particular storyline was Giuseppe walking down the hallway
Starting point is 00:20:19 of his own home. After Anthony said, we should move in together and him saying, we should, but not now. Which is nice. Yeah. Tasteful. Classy. Walks down his hallway. Here's a strange sound.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Peers his head into puppet master Andrew's room. And he is furiously masturbating. staring at the puppet that he has made of Giuseppe, which is terrifying. And again, like, it's not a comedy beat. It's too scary. And I don't have enough faith in the show. To me, it was a comedy beat because, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:52 none of this is real. Yeah. He's a puppet master. Puppets are scary. A guy who dedicates his life to puppets is scary. The guy looks scary absentee absentee any puppeteering at all. and then like someone furiously masturbating over a handmade image of their housemate is scary. Yeah, but Giuseppe, you know, credit to him, Giuseppe looks at Puppet Giuseppe,
Starting point is 00:21:16 Papa Giuseppe looks at Giuseppe, Giuseppe looks at Puppet Giuseppe, he walks back in and he says, we should move in now. And it's, you know, and it did stress me out that the guy was doing that with his door open. Yeah, it was crazy stuff. But that was, you know, that was a bit of fun. But yeah, to go back to the abandoning of the Michelle Obama. So two things have happened. We're not going to see the piss pants photo on Instagram, whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:42 No hearing in this episode whatsoever. A little bit. He's watching the game. Oh, is that really loud. And, yeah, because Charlotte's getting counselling from fucking Susie from Kirby enthusiasm. She won a psychic energy cleanse in an auction. I'm guessing at her own place of work. She accidentally won an auction, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And she has to keep rescheduling because there's, what do they call it in America when you get stuff done to your house? She's got contractors around doing a renovation. In New Zealand we do it ourselves badly. And it never is completed. Yeah. Or no, you got contractors in to build this very studio. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. And it got completed. Yeah. And you had to bump your psychic appointments for a while when that was having as well. It did. It's true. Yeah. It's just going to have them in here. but yeah it's
Starting point is 00:22:35 Charlotte's doing that Harry's you know he's sort of in recovery mode he's watching his game he's just harrying around and Lisa Tom Wexley at one point they're going to Herb's running for city
Starting point is 00:22:47 control city comptroller they go to a big event and then we see them going down the lift it's the election yeah yeah the big event is whether he's going to win or not and be comptroller
Starting point is 00:22:57 we don't see any of it it's been building for a whole season we've been to fucking campaign events That's a good point. That didn't occur to me. Take me there. I want to go. We don't have time.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I want to see it. See the whole family going down in the elevator. Cut two. The whole family coming up in the elevator. Vives changed. And everyone's like, what the fuck? You lost? Yeah, I know it sucks.
Starting point is 00:23:19 That was funny. That was your comedy beat. Specifically for how hard they wrote Mother Wexley, where she says to her son, who just narrowly it would seem lost for the city comptroller of New York City. why would you ever run for something you weren't sure you were going to win a hell of a line in anyone's book
Starting point is 00:23:39 A crazy way to parent And she was chastising Lisa Todd Wexley Moments ago For yelling at her daughter For losing a hamster In the house Some sort of pet rodent Leading a hamster out of the hamster
Starting point is 00:23:53 Cage I missed the easy breezy 30 minute episodes At 40 something it felt long None of what we have talked about so far none of what we've talked about so far is even the main bit of this episode which is what's happening with Carrie Bradshaw and Duncan...
Starting point is 00:24:11 Give me a break. Duncan Mountbatten. I walked in as they were hooking up and you were visibly disgusted. Yeah, because... Sorry to cut you off. No, no. I was disgusted because it was like
Starting point is 00:24:24 the one cool thing that I thought the episode had done which is that Carrie I don't know if you're disgusting. at her twilight years quite yet but you know she's 60 something she's and and she's uh she voiced i thought this was actually really interesting thread that she's voicing with her friends the situation she's been in her entire life or essentially she's been um you know viewed as a piece of meat by men and not as an intellectual pair or equal and this is
Starting point is 00:24:58 the first time in her entire adult life as a woman that a man has seen her as a smart first and sort of beautiful, sexy second vis-vis Duncan. And so Duncan takes Carrie Bradshaw to his own publishing event. Or a publishing event for his publisher. It turns out to be his ex-wife, I think. His publisher's his ex-wife, that's right. They meet. She's a big Carrie Bradshaw fan.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Fine, whatever, boring. Then we go back. Everyone, well, sorry, Duncan's had a few drinks. Carrie hasn't. Duncan makes a pass at Carrie. basically he just says do you want to go downstairs and fuck by the way I'm finished writing for the night
Starting point is 00:25:36 and she says no and I'm like great I'm like I was actually annoyed at what a good decision it was by the show writers because I was like that is the correct decision and this is the first interesting thing you've done
Starting point is 00:25:50 but Carrie Bradshaw is sort of really reckoning with like herself as you know an intellectual being and trying to fight against how she's been perceived from the male gaze her entire life. Yeah, she was going to go back.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And then, like, 20 seconds later, literally she, you know, Duncan says good night because it's not going to happen. I'm like, oh, damn, the show got one right. Fuck. And then, Carrie, like, runs downstairs and yells at him so that they will fuck to undo all of the good work everyone tripped over in this episode. I was furious. I was pretty, I was like, yeah, I didn't, I think I sighed and rolled my eyes as well.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It's not what I wanted to happen, but they sort of, at least they hammered it, they were like, yep, they had, well, again, I said in a previous episode, I wanted to see PNV, no such thing, we trust, maybe they just went downstairs, took their clothes off and they got so knackered and they were underneath the sheet. At a minimum, they're wrapping this whole thing up. This show was sex in the city originally. that is its genesis form wouldn't it be interesting for the conclusion of this whole universe to be that Carrie Bradshaw realizes that she's been kind of entirely a sexual being with all of her male relationships except for her gay male friends her entire life and she's finally found one Stanford Blatch by the way I believe is still managing a Japanese pop artist or something just thought they
Starting point is 00:27:27 flicked him off to do when the actual actor died in season one yeah you got to we should get a letter or something he was married to Anthony we watched that wedding so many times we did
Starting point is 00:27:43 Liza Manelli's still with us huh yeah Liza Manelli has now outlived it just like that not yet no yeah touch wood touch all the word but that will be
Starting point is 00:27:55 be a big one. I wish Twitter was still charging so I could fucking take a good look at the day that one gets published. They should bring back Liza Manelli. If we can't have Michelle Obama, I think Liza Manali is a fantastic second place prize.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Because they fucking just randomly cut the city comptroller storyline dead. That was the only window on which I thought we were going to meet Michelle Obama. Oh, it's the movie though. Lisa Todd Wexley's documentary is about powerful black unsung black woman
Starting point is 00:28:27 famously Michelle Obama They said Tom Wexley's documentary Can fucking get in All of it can get in the bin I'm sort of like I've come around I'm tired He forgot his mega hat today But don't leave that for you
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm not quite Guy's over it I'm not quite myself No I'm not just over her documentary For the record I'm over the way I'm being treated by this fucking program I've come around
Starting point is 00:28:50 I keep trying I keep I come with a lot of great ideas and I've been flinging them hither and thither and hither again I've been putting them out into the world I know you're filming this week to week take one you fucking cowards take one and run with it
Starting point is 00:29:04 Did you ever shining light at all This week This episode Yeah Yeah it's the guy jerking off to the puppet It's so good eh I there was kind of mine Mine specifically was the puppet
Starting point is 00:29:14 Because I like that someone had to make that Yeah You know the art department had to put together A beautiful little puppet That looked like the guy Giuseppe What did Sarah Jessica Parker I can say about the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:29:26 What do you mean? Oh, publicly? Yeah. I can't remember exactly, but I just saw like a joint statement, I think. Oh, I think I saw a Mattress Park called its official statement. Well, no, like, you know, it must be a big moment for people. For who? For mattress or for us?
Starting point is 00:29:42 For fans, for us. Is this big for you? No. You're the only fan in the room. There are fans who are bigger than me. Fans who go back to the non-canonical original series. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if anyone who genuinely enjoyed
Starting point is 00:29:58 and just like that is a wholly it's like on board with where we are right now I think there is a combination of irony, hate watching, nostalgia I don't think anyone that was a big fan of the original series is still really fucking juiced on
Starting point is 00:30:17 and just like that season three episode 10. I'm still actually I'm still pissed that they went to all trouble to get that aden relationship on the boil and then just fucking piss it. It took nine episodes to piss it down the train. The fact that he's not like
Starting point is 00:30:33 there's kind of not literally but basically Nari a mention of him in this episode. This is a big thing. What are the chances? Can we not grieve? What are the chances that carry so the, so okay
Starting point is 00:30:45 Aiden's gone. Big's dead. Big's dead. Duncan's gone back to London. you really think Duncan's getting on that plane that's one thing I respected about it is I reckon he is going back to London because I think
Starting point is 00:31:01 Oh sweet summer child I think they knew the writing was on the wall somewhat So I think that they haven't they haven't teed this up To end in a way which would like This has to end in a satisfying enough way That they were cognizant They might not get a fourth season And I think to
Starting point is 00:31:20 Put a lot of faith to do that in a way that satisfies both the audience man just like that and the broader audience of the sex and the city universe Carrie has to end it on her terms she has to end it independent of any you know she has to define herself worth as herself she almost did at this episode yeah almost but they had to have sex with Duncan before we went back to the UK yeah so here's what I'm asking you okay Duncan's gone actually I'll tell you you're shining light
Starting point is 00:31:48 Duncan with his shirt off there's no need for for a writer to be that musley. I'm so sick of how strong they're making everyone. Why is everyone so strong? Dungan's gone. Big's dead. Aiden's over. We haven't seen the jeweller
Starting point is 00:32:10 who carry semi-bequithy her apartment two since like episode one or two. But she was meeting someone in an early episode. Look, all I'm saying, what are the odds on Carrie finishing the season
Starting point is 00:32:25 the series the experience back in her old apartment oh yuck what do you reckon I would feel like going backwards to me a viewer of the show
Starting point is 00:32:43 and for her Carrie Bradshaw what would even lead to that because she's in a mansion now that she inherited thanks to Palaton. She didn't inherit it. She bought it with Aiden. The mansion?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, well. Inherited the money. Through a Palaton disaster. I think, she was in the garden. She was happening in her garden. I just think, I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You want to see her back in? I don't want to see it. I just think it's possible. Okay. Okay. She never fucking put her feet. She's never nestled into that house, that enormous house.
Starting point is 00:33:19 you're right about that I just and all that like Aiden and Duncan with the two you know aside from the idea that she might
Starting point is 00:33:25 actually love it which I don't get the sense she does with a reason that she was there Swopsy's back with the jeweler
Starting point is 00:33:32 the jeweler now in here it's that huge mansion Carrie Ratcher is just teeing up this jeweler with an incredible
Starting point is 00:33:39 start to life remember the fun we have when that jewler threw her phone over her shoulder or something and she's like
Starting point is 00:33:44 did I just do that that was awesome in the bar yeah that was great season two That was this season Was it?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, yeah Bring her back She was fun Here's who I want to hang out with Kill everyone Get rid of them all Except Charlotte's workmates What about this
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'd love to spend the second To last episode Just hanging out with those gals What about Brady's offspring We don't have time for this And just like that The third to last episode
Starting point is 00:34:14 You're ever going to make And you would have known A little bit That could have been on the cards and you're introducing Brady has a kid on the way. I guess we're going to see the... What is going to happen next episode? Do you think they're going to forget
Starting point is 00:34:26 that Brady's going to get on the way? Because I think that is like 50%. I'm giving... I'm giving the magic... I'm giving the tasting spoon to you. Okay? I'm giving you mattress platelets tasting spoon. You look upon your bounty of 40 to 50 pots and pans
Starting point is 00:34:44 that you've got either simmering, boiling or not cooking it all right now. Yeah. You look upon all of your hobbs and all of your cookery and crockery. What sort of satisfying flavor combination are you going to pull together? I want to see Steve become a grandfather. That's what you want to see? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I want to see him hold that baby. I need five. I need five to put this baby to rest. So we got Steve becoming a grandfather. I've got such bad recall. This is going to really stretch my legs. You can reach for anything. I'm trying to remember what else is.
Starting point is 00:35:18 on the boil. I want to see Lily and her dancer boyfriend in the polyamorous relationship. That's back on. I want to explore that next episode. I would very much like, and this is not just recency bias,
Starting point is 00:35:33 I love tap dancing, and I want to go to Rock's recital. You want to spend a lot of time with the supplementary flavors and characters. Don't talk about the goldenblats like that. They're an important part of this kitchen. Yeah. Two more
Starting point is 00:35:48 I want Yeah Steve to be a grandfather And I want Hmm I quite like joy And I don't think She should be with Miranda
Starting point is 00:36:01 Okay I think the next episode Would be quite fun If we see Miranda Continually do what she was doing In this episode Which is Try in the worst way possible
Starting point is 00:36:13 To figure out some sort of connection To the woman that Brady's gotten pregnant and Joy like sort of sees her doing it and it's like, you're crazy and I don't want to be with you anymore because of how crazy you are.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I hope that happens. That would be cool. So that's four. And then one more. Don't mind if I do. Imagine if Kathy's involved. Was that Aidan's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Wyatt, Homer and the other one's mum. The Wyatt stuff was so intense and then they just flicked Aiden so Wyatt's gone too. Yeah, but now he's back. Okay. Kathy's back seeking more drugs
Starting point is 00:36:59 from Carrie in the big city. Man, to hear all this stuff, they must have so many exciting opportunities this season. acquiesces and Carrie gets caught in the last episode of in just like that, the end of Carrie Bradshaw's story is her getting caught. by alcohol, tobacco, and firearms,
Starting point is 00:37:19 the ATF in America and going to federal prison for taking prescription drugs across state lines, drug trafficking, for Kathy, for Wyatt. She has made the ultimate sacrifice because their little spares couldn't sort himself out. And now she's going to jail for a long time. It's a dramatic end of the show.
Starting point is 00:37:41 It's a Seinfeld-esque finale. They've got a lot of heat for. for putting the characters in prison. I don't know. Is there how Seinfeld ended? Yeah. What happened? In the last episode,
Starting point is 00:37:50 all of the characters who were wronged by the core four in Seinfeld appeared as a like a parade of witnesses in court. And they laid out all the things and then they ended in prison. That's awesome. I want to see like, I want for some reason I want, I want the characters to have to walk through Times Square.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And they walk past and they walk past the comedy club. And Shade Deer. As walks out with Rosie O'Donnell's nun on their arm And they're like madly in love Yes Like all of the characters who this show picked up and fucked off Yeah Have all found a way to band together
Starting point is 00:38:28 It's like how heaven is always depicted in TV shows Where you come in, it's all these people you saw Like three seasons ago And you're there and you're there And you're there And everyone's happy except for Carrie Miranda
Starting point is 00:38:41 I wish nothing but the best for Charlotte and good on you, Samantha, you got out of there. I guess Seema, what do you think is going to happen when Seema and Adam? The Sima and Adam story is quite sweet. I think that's going to be the hopeful, that's the hopeful romantic note in terms of new romance. Yeah. I think Seema is,
Starting point is 00:38:59 Seema has undergone like quite an interesting and positive trajectory in this season. And the character has warmed up. She has had to let go of, you know, some of the presentation. components of her personality, the desire to be perceived in a specific way. And I think in opening those parts of herself up to Adam, she's actually experiencing closer to like a pure version of happiness. Actually, you know, it would be a fun TV trope that they do for an episode sometimes is the drug trip. Adam takes Seema on an ayahuasca experience.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. Seema has to wrestle with early demons. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always more, isn't it? Yeah, and it should be. And it will continue to be for two more episodes only. New York City Improv Watch, for me, I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:39:52 if not Brady's baby mama, certainly the receptionist who works at the hair salon. I saw her, I thought, you got chops. I think at this point that the New York City improv community's probably not getting around the series with the same intensity as they might have been in early episodes. So I don't know that there's a lot of posting about that moment but
Starting point is 00:40:14 just want to let you know Tim and Guy saw you and we're proud of you we respect you a lot and we respect you look there's only two left of this it would be interesting to see what happens where they go what doesn't happen
Starting point is 00:40:31 you know it's like we've walked into the restaurant we've looked into the kitchen like we've walked to the restaurant we've looked around there's like one table we also forgot Brady's going to be a chef yes that's right so we walk to the restaurant there's one table left in the restaurant and we're like can we get a table and they go oh the kitchen's about to close we look into the kitchen it is the busiest person you have ever seen or everything is being
Starting point is 00:41:07 used in the kitchen and we're like are you sure and they're like yeah chefs just revving it up I'll end on this, I will say no more But someone I saw Post Online As part of the wider worst idea community And they're dead right So this is After this episode came out Before I had seen it
Starting point is 00:41:27 And Brady looks a fuck ton Like the chef from Ratatoui Yeah And now he's learning to be a chef And in just another wink and a nod To go hey Tim and guy Guess what? We see you, we feel you
Starting point is 00:41:41 Here's a little gift for you that is so money. That's crazy. Anyway, folks, we'll see you next week. Thanks to everyone. Thank you. Peace and love. We'll be making just two more episodes.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Thank you.

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